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Husband Poisons Wife_ Then Targets Detective Who Caught Him_ The Murder of Angela Craig _ True Crime · The Mind of a Man

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  Speaker 1: In March, 2023, 44-year-old mother of six, Angela Craig, died
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  Speaker 1: of unknown causes in the hospital after battling a mysterious
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  Speaker 1: illness for almost two weeks. While answers seemed elusive when
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  Speaker 1: she lived, they would reveal themselves with shocking speed upon
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  Speaker 1: her death. A single suspicion to investigators unraveled a dark plan,
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  Speaker 1: elaborate stories, deceit, affairs, and further murder plots.
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  Speaker 2: You are under arrest.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. First degree murder.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for.
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  Speaker 5: Doing the job you're doing. I really hope that truth
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  Speaker 5: comes out.
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  Speaker 4: I do too.
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  Speaker 6: I really do.
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  Speaker 4: And why did he want to kill Marlins?
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  Speaker 7: He said that she had stacked the decks again, stacked
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  Speaker 7: the deck against him.
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  Speaker 4: And planned another one.
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  Speaker 8: In this case.
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  Speaker 1: Hi there. I'm Kevin and welcome to Just Thought Lounge.
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  Speaker 1: Today's case has seen quite a bit of coverage over
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  Speaker 1: the last two years, but it was not until very
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  Speaker 1: recently that some of its most bizarre details have come
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  Speaker 1: to light. When I set out to gain access to
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  Speaker 1: as much information about this story as possible, including police interviews,
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  Speaker 1: body cam, surveillance, and other evidence, I had no idea
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  Speaker 1: the depth of this strange story. Now that I do,
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  Speaker 1: I'm ready to share it with you. Let's take a look.
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  Speaker 1: where a preacher, entangled in an affair with a parishioner,
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  Speaker 1: makes a devastating choice. Rather than face the shame of divorce,
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  Speaker 1: he arranges for three men to kill his wife. But
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  Speaker 1: that single decision sets off a chain reaction of murder, injustice,
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  Speaker 1: At just past 11 a.m. on March 15, 2023, 44-year-old
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  Speaker 1: wife and mother Angela Craig, with the assistance of her brother,
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  Speaker 1: checked into University Hospital in Aurora, Colorado. For over a week,
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  Speaker 1: Angela had been experiencing strange and unexplained symptoms. Amongst them,
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  Speaker 1: severe headaches, dizziness, vomiting, and low blood pressure. Three hours
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  Speaker 1: after her arrival at the hospital, Angela had a seizure.
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  Speaker 1: Her condition declined rapidly, forcing medical staff to move her
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  Speaker 1: to the intensive care unit where she was placed on
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  Speaker 1: life support. Over the next three days, Angela's organs shut
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  Speaker 1: down and she was declared brain dead. On March 18th,
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  Speaker 1: roughly 10 days after she first fell ill, Angela Craig
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  Speaker 1: was removed from life support. When she suddenly crashed and
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  Speaker 1: was taken into the ICU, Angela's diagnosis was still uncertain.
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  Speaker 1: The mother of six had first sought treatment over a
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  Speaker 1: week earlier at the Advent Health Parker Hospital. At that time,
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  Speaker 1: she had an MRI, a CT scan, and blood work,
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  Speaker 1: but was sent home after nothing was found. The next day, however,
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  Speaker 1: she was back at the ER. She felt strange, she said.
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  Speaker 1: To her husband, James, she texted, My stomach feels fine,
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  Speaker 1: but my head feels funny and dizzy. she was sent
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  Speaker 1: home yet again without a diagnosis. On March 9th, Angela's
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  Speaker 1: children found her crawling across the floor at home because
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  Speaker 1: she was incapable of standing up. This time, she was
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  Speaker 1: admitted to the hospital, where she remained until the 14th.
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  Speaker 1: Her discharge from the hospital on that day did not
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  Speaker 1: seem premature, as her tests were coming back normal and
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  Speaker 1: her condition stable. Nonetheless, she was admitted to University Hospital
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  Speaker 1: the very next day, where she experienced the seizure that
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  Speaker 1: led to her death. Her husband looked on as medical
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  Speaker 1: teams descended upon her room, trying desperately to save her.
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  Speaker 1: With Angela's condition still precarious, a nurse discreetly placed a
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  Speaker 1: phone call to the Aurora Police Department.
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  Speaker 9: Hi, my name is Chelsea. I am one of the
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  Speaker 9: forensic nurses here at University Hospital. I am needing to
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  Speaker 9: make a mandated FBI report, IPV, and meeting officer response.
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  Speaker 9: We have a suspected cyanide, potassium cyanide poisoning.
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  Speaker 1: Angela's husband, Dr. James Craig, dressed in a set of
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  Speaker 1: blue scrubs, sat nearly motionless outside of her hospital room
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  Speaker 1: looking on. occasionally being informed and consoled by hospital staff.
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  Speaker 1: He looked down at his phone, messaging family, friends, and
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  Speaker 1: the six children that he and Angela shared, offering updates
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  Speaker 1: and prompting them to get to the hospital as quickly
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  Speaker 1: as possible. One of James' messages was to his business partner, Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Redfern, who owned the dental clinic where James ran
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  Speaker 1: his practice. Upon hearing of Angela's condition and her symptoms,
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  Speaker 1: Ryan arrived at the hospital under the guise of offering
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  Speaker 1: support to his partner. While James stepped away to make
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  Speaker 1: a phone call, however, Ryan took a nurse aside for
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  Speaker 1: a discreet chat. Two days before, he and an employee
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  Speaker 1: at their dental practice had come across a curious package
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  Speaker 1: delivered to James Craig. The box had been opened accidentally
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  Speaker 1: to reveal a container of potassium cyanide.
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  Speaker 9: In the waiting room. The husband's business partner, named Ryan,
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  Speaker 9: who is also a dentist, was here earlier. We let
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  Speaker 9: him go home because he did not want.
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  Speaker 9: Husband to know every story that he told us. So
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  Speaker 9: he wanted to go home to kind of separate himself
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  Speaker 9: from that. He does not know we're calling you guys either. Okay.
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  Speaker 9: That's going to cause a lot of issues because he's wanting,
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  Speaker 9: my understanding is to withdraw care on her pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 9: And so we're trying to, you know, get you guys
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  Speaker 9: involved in trying to figure out medical decision on that.
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  Speaker 1: Angela Craig was born in Kansas, the youngest girl in
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  Speaker 1: a family of 10 children. As an adult, she remained
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  Speaker 1: close with her siblings. In December 1999, Angela married James Craig.
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  Speaker 1: Over 23 years of marriage, they had six children. For
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  Speaker 1: the last 15 years, she and James had made Denver
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  Speaker 1: their home. Angela, a devout Mormon, was fiercely dedicated to
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  Speaker 1: her family. After her children, Angela's faith was said to
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  Speaker 1: be her greatest passion. though her interests stretched beyond the church.
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  Speaker 1: She loved family history, interior design, woodworking, reading, and mystery shows.
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  Speaker 1: In the days before Angela fell ill, she had been
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  Speaker 1: visiting family in Utah where she attended a genealogical convention
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  Speaker 1: with her sister, uncovering family history while fitting in quality time.
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  Speaker 1: Her loss obviously came as a devastating blow. The family
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  Speaker 1: needed answers. In the immediate aftermath of her death, Investigators
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  Speaker 1: believed they had them. Over the objections of her husband,
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  Speaker 1: an autopsy was performed on Angela Craig. Its conclusions seemed
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  Speaker 1: to confirm the concerns raised by James' business partner. Results
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  Speaker 1: showed Angela ingested lethal doses of cyanide and tetrahydrozoline, an
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  Speaker 1: ingredient found in Visine. Arsenic was also found in her system.
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  Speaker 10: My name is Dr. Jim Craig, and I practice at
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  Speaker 10: Summerbrook Dental Group. My approach to dentistry begins with sincerely
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  Speaker 10: listening to the patient and wanting to find out more
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  Speaker 10: about where they're coming from and what they're looking for
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  Speaker 10: and what they want.
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  Speaker 1: Aurora Police obtained a warrant for James Craig's arrest and
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  Speaker 1: located him with his brother just past midnight on March 19th.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, how are you? I'm great. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 11: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Good.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Bob, you are under arrest. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, first-degree murder.
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  Speaker 1: The office manager, a woman named Caitlin at Summerbrook Dental,
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  Speaker 1: told investigators that she noticed strange things around the office.
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  Speaker 1: On March 6th, towards the end of the day, she
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  Speaker 1: found James in the back medical area known as Exam
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  Speaker 1: Room 9. The lights were turned off. and James was
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  Speaker 1: using the computer. She thought this was odd because the
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  Speaker 1: dentist had a computer in his office, as well as
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  Speaker 1: a personal laptop he took home with him each night.
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  Speaker 1: With this curious observation in mind, investigators zeroed in on
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  Speaker 1: the activity from this computer. What they found was a
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  Speaker 1: search history brimming with queries about poisons. Beginning on February 27th,
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  Speaker 1: the history showed searches for how many grams of pure
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  Speaker 1: arsenic will kill a human and is arsenic detectable in
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  Speaker 1: an autopsy. YouTube searches returned videos for top five undetectable
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  Speaker 1: poisons that show no signs of foul play, how to
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  Speaker 1: make poison, and the top 10 deadliest plants they can
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  Speaker 1: kill you.
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  Speaker 8: It plays a huge part in murder, mystery, and fiction.
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  Speaker 8: And in today's It's All Viral video, we're going to
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  Speaker 8: be bringing you the top five poisons that are nigh untraceable. Now,
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  Speaker 8: what you do with this information, well, that's up to you.
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  Speaker 1: Even more damning, queries for chemical suppliers ultimately led to
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  Speaker 1: James Craig's Amazon account. On the account was a purchase
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  Speaker 1: of arsenic metal made on the 27th, when Caitlin observed
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  Speaker 1: the dentist in the darkened room. The package was delivered
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  Speaker 1: to James' address in Aurora, and it showed an arrival
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  Speaker 1: date of March 4th, the day before Angela returned from Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Two days after that, Angela was released from the hospital
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  Speaker 1: for the first time. The computer from exam room 9
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  Speaker 1: showed an order placed on that date for one milligram
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  Speaker 1: of oleandrine. James ordered three of them. These packages were
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  Speaker 1: intercepted by FedEx, however, and never delivered. Undeterred, investigators found
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  Speaker 1: a confirmation email for the purchase of potassium cyanide on
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  Speaker 1: March 8th from a company called Midland Scientific. In an
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  Speaker 1: email exchange with the company, the dentist claimed that he
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  Speaker 1: was a surgeon performing a craniofacial reconstruction. He would be
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  Speaker 1: using the chemical to check and see if it will
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  Speaker 1: help with the layering of alternative metals. His order of
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  Speaker 1: the cyanide was then approved. James requested that it be
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  Speaker 1: shipped overnight. Just in case his supply of poisons was insufficient,
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  Speaker 1: at 10.16 p.m. that same night, James used his credit
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  Speaker 1: card to purchase seven packages of Visine eyedrops from a
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  Speaker 1: King Soopers store.
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  Speaker 4: The charge is first-degree murder.
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  Speaker 2: Or you can give them to him.
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  Speaker 12: Deliberation.
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  Speaker 2: You take his gloves.
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  Speaker 13: A bond won't be given until a preliminary hearing, which
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  Speaker 13: is usually within.
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  Speaker 2: 30 to 60 days. Just for you and the family,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously this is shocking. From our standpoint, he's
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  Speaker 2: responsible for Angie's death. Okay? There's no doubt in our mind.
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  Speaker 6: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to wrap your mind around that, I understand,
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  Speaker 2: especially for these poor kids. But, you know, we would
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  Speaker 2: obviously take him into custody this quick if we were
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  Speaker 2: not sure in our minds from our investigation that he's
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  Speaker 2: responsible for her death.
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  Speaker 7: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 9: So.
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  Speaker 14: In this case, then, are we just supposed to proceed
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  Speaker 14: to the funeral without him?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he's not going to be able to get out
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  Speaker 2: of jail.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, if you guys.
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  Speaker 4: Will he be able to attend the funeral?
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  Speaker 11: No.
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  Speaker 1: James sat down with Detective Bobby Olson, who read him
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  Speaker 1: his Miranda rights. The dentist was reluctant to speak freely,
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  Speaker 1: yet also seemed hesitant to shut down the conversation entirely.
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  Speaker 1: He spoke with Olson for over 20 minutes about the
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  Speaker 1: reservations he had in offering his version of events. He insisted, however,
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  Speaker 1: that there was an explanation for what appeared on the
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  Speaker 1: surface to be damning evidence of his guilt.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have the arrest warrant for the murder of Angela?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my.
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  Speaker 6: Gosh.
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  Speaker 12: So I know that, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, you've expressed.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes.
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  Speaker 13: You have the answers and want to tell us. I
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  Speaker 13: just want to give you that opportunity.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't had my phone so I haven't been able
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  Speaker 5: to talk to the attorney that I reached out to
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  Speaker 5: because as you can imagine this is terrifying for me
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  Speaker 5: and you both seem very nice and like you're on
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  Speaker 5: my side but I know how this works and I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to incriminate.
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  Speaker 4: Myself or say anything stupid or there are answers.
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  Speaker 5: There are answers and this makes a lot of sense
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  Speaker 5: once those answers come out but I don't know how
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  Speaker 5: to navigate this.
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  Speaker 2: I've never done this before.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm scared to death.
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  Speaker 1: By the time James sat down with detectives, the data
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  Speaker 1: from the computer in exam room 9 had already offered
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  Speaker 1: a roadmap of how James had planned the murder of
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  Speaker 1: his wife.
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  Speaker 3: You have a warrant, so you're going to go to
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  Speaker 3: jail today.
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  Speaker 4: I can't change that.
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  Speaker 13: Do you have something to say, and maybe I can
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  Speaker 13: verify it? and that'll clear you and take away all
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  Speaker 13: the evidence that I have, then I would submit all
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  Speaker 13: that to the district attorney's office and they would submit
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  Speaker 13: it to the judge to say that, but again, nothing
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  Speaker 13: will change the fact that you're going to go to
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  Speaker 13: jail today.
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  Speaker 4: And, um, and there's, there's basically a, uh, straight up.
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  Speaker 5: Written, here's everything that happened from my iPhone that I
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  Speaker 5: wrote the night before you took my phone. I wanted
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  Speaker 5: to sit down and figure out the timeline so that
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  Speaker 5: I could remember exactly what happened and when.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's all there. And so I don't know.
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  Speaker 12: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. I don't know, Detective Wilson. You don't
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  Speaker 4: have to be sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is a scary situation.
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  Speaker 13: We're not here to pretend that it is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really scary.
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  Speaker 1: Along with the confirmation orders for poisons, investigators found other emails.
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  Speaker 1: These offered insight into why James Craig would wish Angela dead.
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  Speaker 1: A new email account, jimandwaffles at gmail, had been recently created.
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  Speaker 1: The inbox showed multiple communications with a woman named Karen Kane. Karen,
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  Speaker 1: an orthodontist from Texas, had met James at a very
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  Speaker 1: recent dental conference in Las Vegas. Over the course of
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  Speaker 1: three days, from February 22nd through the 25th, they bonded.
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  Speaker 1: The two attended dinners, conference events together, and began texting
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  Speaker 1: each other into the early morning hours. By the time
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  Speaker 1: he left Las Vegas, James was declaring his undying love
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  Speaker 1: for Karen Kane.
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  Speaker 15: So if you want an attorney, we absolutely respect that
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  Speaker 15: and understand that. You're not the first person to tell
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  Speaker 15: us that you feel more comfortable with that. We would
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  Speaker 15: just wait until you or your attorney reach back out
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  Speaker 15: to us.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I.
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  Speaker 4: Probably would.
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  Speaker 3: Wait for an attorney?
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Detective Wilson, thank you for doing the job you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: I really hope.
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  Speaker 3: That truth comes out.
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  Speaker 4: I do too.
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  Speaker 2: I really do.
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  Speaker 1: James's newly created Jim and Waffles Gmail account appeared to
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  Speaker 1: be used exclusively for plans to poison Angela and to
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  Speaker 1: reunite with Karen Kane. Karen planned to travel to Denver
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  Speaker 1: on March 8, At the same time, James began researching
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  Speaker 1: and ordering poisons. Angela, having returned from her family visit
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  Speaker 1: in Utah on March 5th, fell ill the next day.
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  Speaker 1: Detective Olson did not believe that the timing was coincidental,
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  Speaker 1: but they found no evidence at all that Karen was
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  Speaker 1: in on the plan, only that James had purposefully deceived her.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Karen? Yes. I'm Sergeant Lawnecker with the Royal Homicide Unit.
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  Speaker 2: We've taken Jim into custody for homicide. And I was
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  Speaker 2: wondering if you have a minute to speak with me.
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  Speaker 11: Can I?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Get dressed.
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  Speaker 9: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators found Karen in her hotel room in Denver. She
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  Speaker 1: was there to visit James Craig.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I think he's told you a very elaborate story.
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  Speaker 2: of which probably most of it, if not all of
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  Speaker 2: it's nonsense. Obviously we wouldn't take him into custody if
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  Speaker 2: we weren't confident about what we've seen so far and
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  Speaker 2: what we found. And, you know, I wouldn't have found
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  Speaker 2: you at this hotel if we didn't know all this
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  Speaker 2: stuff that's been going on. I don't know what kind
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  Speaker 2: of communications he's had with you about his wife and
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  Speaker 2: what's been going on with her. We have noticed that
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  Speaker 2: you seem to come to Denver when his wife was
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  Speaker 2: in the hospital. And I don't know if that's just
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  Speaker 2: what kind of timing is, you know, that is.
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  Speaker 1: James told Karen that he had filed for divorce from
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  Speaker 1: Angela the previous month. He had not. He told her
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  Speaker 1: that his wife had a history of harming herself. and
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  Speaker 1: that she had previously taken medications from his dental practice
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  Speaker 1: in order to do so. There was no proof that
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  Speaker 1: she had done anything of the sort. As James kept
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  Speaker 1: Karen in the loop with updates relating to Angela's declining health,
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  Speaker 1: he also implied that his wife was behind it all.
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  Speaker 1: She was depressed, perhaps, over the pending divorce. These claims
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  Speaker 1: formed the foundation of James Craig's story, that his wife
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  Speaker 1: was poisoning herself.
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  Speaker 2: Explain that to me more, though, that she got drugs
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  Speaker 2: from his office? Like, he got her drugs from the office?
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  Speaker 16: No, he said when she had attempted in the past
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  Speaker 16: that he would have to figure out what it was
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  Speaker 16: that she took so that he could reverse it.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like well where.
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  Speaker 6: Would she get this stuff and he said well she
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  Speaker 6: had taken stuff she used to work at his practice
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  Speaker 6: I guess and she had taken stuff out of the safe.
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  Speaker 5: Or I don't know how they store and then practiced
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  Speaker 5: it he's never told her he wants a divorce he's
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  Speaker 5: never told her.
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  Speaker 2: There's no talk of him moving out with the kids.
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  Speaker 2: She has no idea anything about a divorce. He's purchased poisons,
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  Speaker 2: and she's now dead because of poisons. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: the things he's told you, assuming you've told me the truth,
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  Speaker 2: are all nonsense. All right. You got my card if
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  Speaker 2: you think of anything or you got any questions?
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  Speaker 3: Nobody.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, because he told me he had specifically requested
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: a tox screening on her because of his concern.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: It's because he knew that the poisons he used wouldn't
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: show up.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: You're suspecting cyanide and cyanide doesn't.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Show up on that. I'm suspecting arsenic. I'm suspecting cyanide.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: A tox screening?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: We've got all of his search history for Google. on
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: planning this whole thing out.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: It was not only James' search history that was revealing.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: After the orthodontist had some time to digest the information
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: investigators had delivered, Detective Olson sat down with Karen and
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: reviewed her extensive correspondence with James. In three short weeks,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the two exchanged over 4,000 text messages. These included passionate
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: and poetic messages from James, such as, I want to
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: forever breathe in the influence of your sweet perfume. And
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the short version is that I love you. Soñar conmigo,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: my eternal love. And may heaven let us bloom together forever.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: James also texted Karen extensively about Angela.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: And then he's telling you she's not feeling well.
• 21:52
  Speaker 11: And then he texted me from work. We were just
• 21:56
  Speaker 11: texting back and forth at work. And he was like, hey,
• 21:58
  Speaker 11: super important aside. The kid said Ange wasn't feeling well
• 22:02
  Speaker 11: and went to lie down. I couldn't get her to respond.
• 22:04
  Speaker 11: She said she felt dizzy and has blurred vision. I
• 22:06
  Speaker 11: came home and been doing homeschool with the girls, but
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: she looked super pale. I'm going to take her to
• 22:10
  Speaker 11: urgent care. She had some pre-workout drink this morning and
• 22:13
  Speaker 11: rode her bike hard for about a half hour. I
• 22:15
  Speaker 11: thought maybe she was just tired, but this is something more.
• 22:18
  Speaker 17: Just FYI.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: And then at one point he says, are you thinking
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: what I'm thinking about this situation?
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: And....
• 22:30
  Speaker 11: I, I thought maybe she was faking it because she was,
• 22:35
  Speaker 11: you know, trying to reach out, whatever. So, uh, when
• 22:42
  Speaker 11: you say, so I replied, well, when you say that
• 22:45
  Speaker 11: you're seeing her pale and like that really quiet to
• 22:47
  Speaker 11: the waist of my head, he said, I don't think
• 22:48
  Speaker 11: we're thinking the same thing.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I think she tried to hurt herself.
• 22:51
  Speaker 11: I said, Oh no, I wasn't thinking that, but I'd
• 22:54
  Speaker 11: Did think that initially, but maybe something made me move
• 22:57
  Speaker 11: away from that thought.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Are they doing toxicology? I said, I can't think of
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: what she may have done that would result in these
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: kinds of symptoms.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Notably, while he sat in the hospital watching medical staff
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: fight to save Angela's life, James was texting Karen, even
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: sending her a photo of his view into the hospital room.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: He said, feelings. I'm divorcing a woman who's the mother
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: of my children who seems to be trying her hardest
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: to die. She said, it's making me feel super, super guilty.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: And then he sent me that she had crashed and
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: they had intubated her and.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: That her blood pressure was really low.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: 3 p.m.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: The picture?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: It was roughly 3 p.m. when James texted Karen, crash, intubated,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: along with the photo. They had a brief phone call
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: from the hospital. Then, maybe an hour later, James texted
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: that he was about to tell his children that their
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: mother had no brain activity. Karen responded by offering love
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and prayers to him and the children. Thank you, that's
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: going to be so heartbreaking, James wrote of breaking the news.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Twenty minutes later, however, he messaged Karen again. Whatcha doing tonight?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: He asked.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: By most accounts, Angela Craig did not have a lot
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: of time to herself, but one activity that she rarely
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: missed was her morning workout, after which she usually had
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: a protein shake. Her daily shakes were a recurring theme
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: mentioned by witnesses after her death. In fact, it was
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: James's own statements that pointed investigators towards the shakes as
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the mode of delivery for his poisons. He told Caitlin
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: at the dental office, for instance, that he gave Angela
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: a extra protein in her pre-workout shake one morning when
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: she felt sluggish. Immediately after she exercised, Angela became faint
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and dizzy and he needed to bring her to the hospital.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Cameras inside the Craig home showed James regularly fixing shakes
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: for Angela. The container he used with the pink lid
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: would later test positive for tetrahydrozoline, the main ingredient in visine.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: What these cameras also revealed, at least initially in the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: days before Angela's illness, was what appeared to be a
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: happy marriage. James and Angela were frequently captured embracing, chatting
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and joking around, kissing and exchanging I love you's. On
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the morning of February 27th, the same day that James
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: would create a new Google account and begin to plot
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: to kill his wife, the two were captured in a
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: loving and casual exchange, the type one would expect from
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: a happy husband and wife.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: Moments later, Angela took a sip of her morning shake.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: The kitchen camera caught more than James' deceit. As Angela's
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: condition worsened, the camera captured an argument between the couple.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: After Angela's discharge from treatment, she accused her husband of
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: telling hospital staff that she was at fault for her sickness.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: They treated me like I was a suicide risk, like
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I did it to myself. And like nothing I said
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: could be believed.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: While in the hospital, Angela had messaged her husband telling
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: him that she felt drugged, though the only thing she
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: had consumed that day was a protein shake. More accusations
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: were made in text messages. At one point, James replied,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Given our history, I know that must be triggering. Just
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: for the record, I didn't drug you. That message was
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: evidently in reference to an incident from roughly six years
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: earlier in which James had admitted to drugging Angela. His
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: aim at that time, he claimed, was to harm himself.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: He drugged his wife so she would not awake and
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: stop him. There was no way to verify or disprove
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that assertion. Angela's own search history showed that she was
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: desperate to sort out what was wrong with her. Day
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: after day, she googled her symptoms as they worsened. She
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: may have suspected her husband was behind her illness, but
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: she certainly did not know it for a fact. On
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: March 15th, the day she checked into University Hospital, James
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: promptly arrived to pay her a visit. An hour and
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: a half later, he was captured returning to her room
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: with a bag of food. That was at roughly 1.30pm.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: 20 minutes after that, he emerged from the restroom on
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the other side of the nurse's station. A small object
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: is visible in his hand. Investigators believe it was a syringe,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: likely filled with cyanide. At 2.20, he re-entered Angela's room
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: once again. This time, he is with his wife for
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: less than a minute before he re-emerged to tell nurses
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that she was experiencing pain in her arm. Angela crashed
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: moments later. James was held without bond awaiting trial for
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: first-degree murder. he maintained that Angela had schemed to make
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: herself ill. He told cellmates in the county jail that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: there was proof of poison containers in his home with
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: her fingerprints all over them. Somehow, suspiciously in his opinion,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: these pieces of evidence that would exonerate him or at
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: least support his defense were never turned over by police
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: after they searched his house. The truth, according to James Craig,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: was that his wife asked him to order the poisons.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: It was her plan, not his. He blamed Detective Olson
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: for framing him. So, James believed that he had no
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: choice but to create the evidence that was lacking, and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to order a hit on the detective. A cellmate of
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: James Craig's named Nathaniel Harris came to law enforcement with
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: a bizarre series of allegations against the dentist. He claimed
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that he had gained James' trust while they served time together.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: At first, Nathaniel claimed that James asked him to find
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: witnesses who could testify that they knew James' late wife
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: and that she had confided her plans to them. He
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: offered to pay. James also requested that the fake witnesses
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: use Photoshop or a similar program to create photos of
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: them with Angela. to support claims that they were old
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: friends and confidants with whom Angela would share her deepest secrets.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: Some of my gang tattoos from prison, and he was
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: asking me questions about those. That sparked off, do I
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: know anybody that would be willing to lie for him,
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: to be a corroborate, a witness? I told him that
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: I was going to my ex-wife, and my ex-wife and
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: her sister would be more than willing to do that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: And he said that there'd be a blank check that
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: halfway through, Once they had convinced Harvey, his lawyer, that
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: there were legitimate witnesses, that he would pay them both $ 20, 000,
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: or $ 10, 000, half of it, $ 10, 000 at the beginning, and
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: then $ 10, 000 later down the line.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: After James believed his plan had been set into action,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: he began asking Nathaniel about hired killers. The dentist had
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: three targets on his list. First was an Aurora deputy
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: whom he claimed had been awful to him after his arrest.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: The second was Detective Bobby Olson for framing him. The
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: third and final person he wished dead was his old cellmate,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: a man named Rodney. That ex-cellmate had originally offered to
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: assist him with locating fake witnesses. But instead of doing so,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: police had discovered the scheme. James believed Rodney had turned
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: him in.
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: And He had told me the whole story about how
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: he had basically done the same exact thing that he
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: was doing with me and my ex-wife. And that guy
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: had turned around and turned him in.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: And why did he want to kill Rodney? For turning
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: him in. And somehow his daughter was involved in it.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I can't remember. There was so much
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: information so fast. When you say his daughter, James?
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: James' daughter. Yeah, Jimmy.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: What do you call him? Jimmy.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I call him Jimmy.
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: Jimmy. Yeah, his daughter.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Jimmy's daughter, not Ron.
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Jimmy's daughter was involved and had gotten a class
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: six felony, I think he said, or was it him
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: that got a class six felony? I can't remember which one,
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: but I know his daughter was implicated and he said
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: he was going to have to take the fall for that.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Another scheme was revealed to police by James's eldest daughter.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: From jail, he had written her a letter that contained
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: detailed instructions. First, he asked her to purchase a new laptop.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: She should use it to research and recreate a deep
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: fake video of her mother speaking with her father, asking
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: him to buy poisons for her. When the AI video
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: was produced, she was to dispose of the laptop, discover
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the video evidence, and tell no one of the plan.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: It would prove his innocence, he claimed, because investigators had
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: framed him. Instead of following the instructions her father gave her,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: James' daughter went to the police with the letter.
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: I've been around killers for the last 20 years in prison.
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: And I can tell by just talking to somebody. There's
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: a distinct trait that people that are sadistic and murderous carry.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: That's what intrigued me to even talk to him. But
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: he swore up and he was so happy all the time.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: All the time, right?
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: And it was like, oh, he didn't do it. He's
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: not even worried about anything. And I'm like, no, he is.
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: That's one of those traits. So I knew from the
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: get that he'd kill his wife.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Nathaniel explained that he had no interest in being involved
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: in the witness scheme or the murder-for-hire plots. He was
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: serving time for auto theft and wanted no part in
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a life sentence for murder. For this reason, he took
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: note of what James had told him, that he wanted
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a now-retired deputy hit by a car. Detective Olson shot.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and his ex-cellmate killed. He did not care how.
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: A deputy that he said was just horrible to him
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: the whole time he was in medical. And that was
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: the guy that was next.
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: On the list.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: So that was the one, so it's actually that ACSO. Yes.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: He said that he had retired, but he had his
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: known whereabouts and wanted... First, he wanted somebody to take
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: pictures of his son getting on and off the school bus.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: He wanted to torture him a little bit.
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: Then he said he wanted him hit.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: By a car. Okay, and then what other targets did
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: he talk about?
• 34:21
  Speaker 11: Bobby Olson.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: And why did he want to kill Bobby Olson?
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: He said that she had stacked the deck against him
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: and planted evidence in his case. Okay, and did he
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: talk about how he wanted to do that?
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: He told me he wanted her shot.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Opening statements in James Craig's murder trial began on July 15th, 2025.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: The prosecution introduced jurors to the video of James making
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: his wife shakes in a container that tested positive for
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: one of the poisons that killed her. They showed him
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: entering her hospital room with an object resembling a syringe
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: moments before her seizure. And they showed his messages with
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Karen Kane, his promises to love her forever. and insisting
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: that they belong together. The state also showed other correspondence.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Karen was not the only woman James had been involved
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: with in late February and early March of 2023. Before
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: his trip to Las Vegas, James began messaging two other
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: women that he connected with through Seeking.com. The dentist's profile
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: on that platform described him as a multi-millionaire, a sugar daddy,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: happy to make a financial arrangement with the right woman
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: or women. Indeed, he had done so in the past,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: spending thousands on affairs and landing himself in bankruptcy. Angela
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: had discovered his cheating many times over many years. Her
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: deep faith and desire to keep their family together was
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the driving force in their routine reconciliations. This time, however,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the state argued it was different. Karen Kane was not
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a younger woman who needed the dentist to buy her
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a new car, pricey vacations, or other luxury items. The
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: connection with Karen was real, and James was truly in
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: love with her.
• 36:18
  Speaker 17: Karen Kane was different, on at least the surface, right?
• 36:24
  Speaker 17: He didn't meet her on Seeking.com. There's no financial arrangements
• 36:29
  Speaker 17: to their relationship. And perhaps most importantly, she's not going
• 36:34
  Speaker 17: to sleep with him if he is still actively married
• 36:38
  Speaker 17: to Angela, actively living at home as husband and wife.
• 36:43
  Speaker 17: Three major differences between Karen Kane and the Seeking.com.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: The defense argued that James's relationship with Karen was the
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: same as many, many others that he had throughout the years.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: He had affairs, but always convinced Angela to stay in
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: the marriage. There was therefore no motive after meeting Karen
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: to kill Angela. For James, carrying on multiple affairs was
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: business as usual. He was guilty of being a serial cheater,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: but not a murderer. Prosecutors argued that even if his
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: love affair with Karen was not enough motivation for the murder...
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: James Craig was also the beneficiary of four different life
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: insurance policies that listed Angela as the insured party with
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: a combined coverage of $ 4 million. The defense focused in
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: on a diary of Angela's in which she recorded emotional struggles.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Its last entry was from five years before her death.
• 37:45
  Speaker 12: This was about a family who looking in Angela and Dr.
• 37:50
  Speaker 12: Craig looked happily married. There were no problems. Angela's mental
• 37:56
  Speaker 12: health seemed fine.
• 37:58
  Speaker 11: Dr.
• 37:58
  Speaker 12: Craig's mental health seemed fine. In that journal, though, you
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: will see the struggles that Angela was having, right? Where
• 38:07
  Speaker 12: she's talking about being isolated, where she's talking about the
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: struggles of her relationship.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Dr.
• 38:13
  Speaker 12: Craig's cheating and infidelity broke her. That Ryan Redford calls
• 38:19
  Speaker 12: and is talking about the things happening at the dental office, right?
• 38:25
  Speaker 12: That there was a package delivered and that that package
• 38:28
  Speaker 12: contained cyanide. It was over for law enforcement, right? They
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: had tunnel vision.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: James Craig's defense relied on a timeline written out in
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: notes on his phone in the early morning of March 16th,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the day Angela was declared brain dead.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: And there's basically a straight up written, here's everything that
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: happened from my iPhone that I wrote the night before
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: you took my phone. I wanted to sit down and
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: figure out the timeline so that I could remember exactly.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: What happened and when.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: In it, he admitted to several extramarital affairs, but said
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: that when Angela found out about them, she decided that
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: death was better than divorce. From that point onward, he
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: claimed that Angela started to research poisons that could kill
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: her in a quick and painless manner. There was never
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: any evidence of these searches uncovered by law enforcement, only
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: of her increasingly desperate searches to self-diagnose her illness. After
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: several hours of deliberations over two days, the jury returned
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: with its verdict.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: That's the verdict form, count one, murder in the first degree.
• 39:44
  Speaker 16: We, the jury, unanimously and beyond a reasonable doubt, find
• 39:48
  Speaker 16: the defendant, James Craig.
• 39:49
  Speaker 17: Guilty.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Amongst those that spoke at the sentencing was James and
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Angela's eldest daughter.
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: James Craig was sentenced to life in prison without the
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: possibility of parole.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Arapahoe County District Judge Shea Whitaker imposed the mandatory life
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: sentence for the murder charge, adding a consecutive 33 years
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: for the additional counts.
• 40:32
  Speaker 14: Clearly, Craig wanted out of his marriage, but was unwilling
• 40:36
  Speaker 14: to face the consequences of divorce, especially a divorce initiated
• 40:40
  Speaker 14: by him. He gave in to greed and cowardice, ultimately
• 40:45
  Speaker 14: treating Angela as an object, an obstacle to the life
• 40:48
  Speaker 14: he wanted.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: And that was the tragic case of Angela Craig. Thank
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: you for joining me, and a special thanks this week
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: to Victoria Wilkinson, Hope Ford, Nicole Bucciarelli, Joanna Kelly, and
• 41:06
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  Speaker 4: The content that you need.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: This could be a new sign.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: We talk in the comments. They jot in a few lines.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: Tune in and hit like. Love that.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: It's too kind.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Feels like the.
• 41:36
  Speaker 12: Whole world is online for true crime.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Watch him on the run, but it's not a race.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Really hard to disappear.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Proof without a trace.
• 41:42
  Speaker 12: Sherlock Holmes with it. I put you in your place.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Got my smoking pipe.
• 41:44
  Speaker 10: Only right.
• 41:44
  Speaker 14: I crack another case like.