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Chuck & Buck 5-1 Hour 4: Wayne Randazzo, the new Seahawks and Booze News! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Nine o'clock here on this Friday, Chuck Powell, Nashley Ryan
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  Speaker 1: with you. No Bucky Jacobson here today, he's out for
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  Speaker 2: Joining us now on the program.
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  Speaker 1: The Mariners are going to be on national television tonight
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  Speaker 1: Apple TV. They're taking on the Kansas City Royals, trying
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  Speaker 1: to get over five hundred here this evening. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a long time since we have an internet
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  Speaker 1: game with without a losing record. That'll have and for
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  Speaker 1: the first time since April third, this evening, and we
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  Speaker 1: are intrusting our forward momentum to our next guest. He's
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  Speaker 1: got the play by play call tonight on Apple TV.
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  Speaker 1: Turns out he roots for the Angels a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So we're giving our precious commodity to Wayne Randazzo.
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  Speaker 2: Don't screw it up.
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  Speaker 1: Wayne Well, excited to be in Seattle today and call
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  Speaker 1: this game.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm sure the Mariners will be fine whether they
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  Speaker 3: get over five hundred tonight or another day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you feel like it's a matter of time?
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people fairly high nationally on the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: to have a good season. They got off to another
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  Speaker 1: slow start. As you look at it from your perspective,
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  Speaker 1: somebody that watches the Angels and so you see the Mariners.
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  Speaker 2: Quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like this team will eventually take hold
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  Speaker 1: in this division?
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  Speaker 4: I think so. I mean, certainly it's there to be
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  Speaker 4: grabbed at this point.
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  Speaker 3: You look around at the standing and no one has
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  Speaker 3: done that to this point, barely anybody over five hundred
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  Speaker 3: in the entire American League for that matter, let alone
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  Speaker 3: in the West. So it is available to the Mariners.
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  Speaker 3: It's available then.
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  Speaker 4: But right now across all three region I.
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  Speaker 3: Would say, And you know, the A's have played well,
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  Speaker 3: but they've got a lot of issues with their pitching staff.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if they if they pulled off.
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  Speaker 3: Offensively at all, you feel like they'll they'll start losing
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  Speaker 3: some games. Texas has played pretty well. They might they
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  Speaker 3: might I would say those would be the three teams
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  Speaker 3: that I would be the most likely to walk away
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  Speaker 3: with the.
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  Speaker 4: West in the end.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't I don't know how the Rangers or
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  Speaker 3: the A's would have enough staying power over six months.
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  Speaker 4: To to do better than what Seattle can do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my pod casting partner yesterday pointed out there are
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  Speaker 1: three teams with winning records in the entire American League
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  Speaker 1: right now. Three That seems crazy. How hard a time
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  Speaker 1: do you have with baseball fans and trying to convince
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  Speaker 1: them that it's early? Because it is early. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we have one hundred and thirty games to go in
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  Speaker 1: the Major League Baseball season, and some of these teams
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  Speaker 1: are off to rough starts that I know are going
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  Speaker 1: to iron them out down the line.
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  Speaker 3: It's early, I think for the Marriors, I think it's
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  Speaker 3: Is it early for the Mets?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Is it early for the Phillies. I
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  Speaker 4: mean they've already fired the managers of the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you can't get late fast or feel
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  Speaker 3: like that you're drowning when you get.
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  Speaker 4: Off to a really.
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  Speaker 3: Rough start, especially in your team that's expected to win
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  Speaker 3: a lot of games. So it is early for I
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  Speaker 3: think Seattle in their case, just because, as we talked about.
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  Speaker 4: The division is there for the taking.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody's really set themselves apart in the American League, especially
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  Speaker 3: which allows you know, a six month season to kind
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  Speaker 3: of play out. But I think some other teams are
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  Speaker 3: feeling the pressure of entering may pretty far back and
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  Speaker 3: knowing that they have a lot of catching up to do.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, it doesn't feel early for the Angels.
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  Speaker 3: They've lost ted out of eleven and I think that
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  Speaker 3: feels like a drowning spot and you need to try
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  Speaker 3: to get out of that as soon as you can't
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  Speaker 3: have time, which is true the Marriners. Obviously, what they
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  Speaker 3: did last September, they probably feel like they can get
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  Speaker 3: it done. Cleveland probably feels the same based on how
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  Speaker 3: they played at the end last year, that there is
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  Speaker 3: plenty of time to still write the ship and put
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  Speaker 3: it together a good stretch. And that's true, but you
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  Speaker 3: don't want to fault too far behind.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably due to what you felt about your
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  Speaker 1: team coming into the season, whether or not you believe
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  Speaker 1: it's early or not. So an interesting case study in
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City, who's our opponent tonight on the other side
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  Speaker 1: of the field from the Mariners, and you'll be calling
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  Speaker 1: the game this evening. They had high expectations coming into
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  Speaker 1: this year. They're twelve to nineteen right now. Is it
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  Speaker 1: early for the Kansas City Royals? By your lodger, I.
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  Speaker 3: Would say that for the Royals, they I'm sure a
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  Speaker 3: feeling and they've won some games here in the last
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  Speaker 3: week or so and they needed that. They swept the
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  Speaker 3: Angels in Kansas City last weekend. Just starting to tick
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  Speaker 3: off some wins. But then if you come here with
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  Speaker 3: Seattle and they have a rough series or they lose
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  Speaker 3: all three, well then you're back to ten under and
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  Speaker 3: then I think you're starting to.
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  Speaker 4: Feel that way again. So you know, the Royals have
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  Speaker 4: some issues offensively for a while. I mean, Bobby Wood Jr.
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  Speaker 4: Was on base something like.
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  Speaker 3: Fifty times and they only scored three runs in the
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  Speaker 3: first few weeks of the season, So they, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they need to figure out a way to score runs
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  Speaker 3: more consistently. I think pitching is mostly pretty good at
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  Speaker 3: Reagan's looked good at his last start. He'll pitch tonight
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  Speaker 3: against Brian Wu and we'll see. I mean, the Royals
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  Speaker 3: are in a division right now where nobody's over five hundred,
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  Speaker 3: so's there's certainly time to process how you play, and
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  Speaker 3: you feel like the Tigers are going to be good.
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  Speaker 4: You feel like Cleveland always is better than what people.
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  Speaker 3: Think, so you know, the Royals kind of have to
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  Speaker 3: put it together here sooner than later.
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  Speaker 1: Where is Bobby Wit on Wayne Rondazo's list of best
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  Speaker 1: players in the world.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's one of the top three to five
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  Speaker 3: most exciting players to watch. I think that he's a
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  Speaker 3: guy that you feel, I mean, and to see two
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  Speaker 3: of them tonight really with Wit and Julio that you know,
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  Speaker 3: these are two guys that you want to pay to see.
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  Speaker 4: You know that they're going to.
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  Speaker 3: Do something exciting. No play is routine for them. You
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  Speaker 3: know they can go and do something that most guys can't.
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  Speaker 3: You know, lad La Cruz or the Reds is in
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  Speaker 3: that category. There are certainly a bunch of guys around
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  Speaker 3: the league where you could say that between their offense
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  Speaker 3: and defense, that they can do things and turn a
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  Speaker 3: game around and get on a highlight reel faster than most.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's it's exciting to watch Bobby play
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  Speaker 3: the game.
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  Speaker 4: He's a tremendous shortstop.
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  Speaker 3: He's thrilling on the bases, and he has great and
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  Speaker 3: he's a top five most exciting player to watch. I
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  Speaker 3: was earlier, it was too and I think those are
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  Speaker 3: the kind of guys that you know, you you really
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  Speaker 3: don't mind paying a ticket to watch play baseball, especially
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  Speaker 3: if they're playing on the same game.
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  Speaker 1: Wayne Rondozo is with US play by play announcer for
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  Speaker 1: the Angels, but he's also doing tonight's game on Apple TV,
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  Speaker 1: which will be a national broadcast tonight Kansas City taking
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  Speaker 1: on the Seattle Mariners. So from your perspective, you do
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  Speaker 1: Angels games most of the time, and then you get
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  Speaker 1: to see the Mariners quite a bit. What is it
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  Speaker 1: about the Mariners right now that you would love to
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  Speaker 1: steal for the Angels? What is it about the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: that has them a step, maybe a step and a
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  Speaker 1: half ahead of most in the American League right now?
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  Speaker 3: Well, if you want to compare to the Angels, it's
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  Speaker 3: a really easy answer.
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  Speaker 4: They have a bullpan that you can trust at the
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  Speaker 4: end of the game.
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  Speaker 3: They got guys you can you know that will come
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  Speaker 3: in at the end and.
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  Speaker 4: Nail it down.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Andres Berdios, even though he has not had
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  Speaker 3: his best season a six saves already.
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  Speaker 4: Matt Brash is not given up a run spire for
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  Speaker 4: rare Ba Guardo.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, these are all guys with huge arms, and
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  Speaker 3: you trust them at the end of the game. I
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  Speaker 3: think the Angels are missing that sorely right now, and
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  Speaker 3: if they could swap bullpens right now, I think their
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  Speaker 3: records would look a little more similar than what they do.
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  Speaker 4: So that's where I would say the Mariners.
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  Speaker 3: Typically have an edge at the ends of games, and
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  Speaker 3: if Munios can get himself straightened out, which I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: you will that you know that's a huge advantage for
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  Speaker 3: any team to be able to go seven, eight nine
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  Speaker 3: at the end of a game and feel like you're
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  Speaker 3: not going to give up many runs.
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  Speaker 1: At risk of putting this out in the universe, I
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  Speaker 1: will ask you the question, does it feel to you
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  Speaker 1: and your bones that Mike Trout's going to stay healthy
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  Speaker 1: this year?
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  Speaker 2: And if so, what will happen?
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  Speaker 3: It does now, It does, and I think I think
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  Speaker 3: Mike's looked great this year. I always I've been saying
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  Speaker 3: for the last two or three years that people.
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  Speaker 4: Like Mike tend to have at least.
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  Speaker 3: One more season the a vintage, you know, the guys
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  Speaker 3: like him that dominate a sport for a long time
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  Speaker 3: and then slow down or get hurt or whatever. They
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  Speaker 3: seem to find one more year where they were as
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  Speaker 3: good as they've ever been. And I think Trout is
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  Speaker 3: there this year. I think he's close to as good
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  Speaker 3: as he's ever been right now, and I think he'll
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  Speaker 3: continue to put together a season and will get him
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  Speaker 3: back in the All Star Game, get it back in
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  Speaker 3: the MVP conversation, and I think this is it might
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  Speaker 3: not be another you like it, but this is going
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  Speaker 3: to be one to remember Mike Trout as being one
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  Speaker 3: of the great players.
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  Speaker 4: In baseball history. And it's been.
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  Speaker 3: It's been awesome to watch, and I think ultimately this
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  Speaker 3: will get him on a good bath to five hundred
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  Speaker 3: home runs, which is a number I think he'll hit
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  Speaker 3: before his career is over.
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  Speaker 1: Since we're talking superstars, we've not mentioned our catcher yet.
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  Speaker 1: And you will notice, I'm sure you already have. He
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  Speaker 1: has a batting average under two hundred so far this season,
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  Speaker 1: but last year he entered superstardom. Do you think he's
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  Speaker 1: here to stay as someone that is called Mike Trout's
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  Speaker 1: games quite a bit throughout his career. Do you look
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  Speaker 1: at cal Raley and do you see a long term
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  Speaker 1: superstar having emerged in Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's a great power hitter. I think that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, his his catching prowess is certainly regarded highly
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  Speaker 3: in the in the organization for the Mariners. You know,
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  Speaker 3: is he going to be the kind of guy that
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  Speaker 3: he was last year every season? I think that's that's
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  Speaker 3: really hard to ask. He's still going to be probably
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  Speaker 3: a thirty five forty homer guy. He's still a great catcher.
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  Speaker 3: He's still a leader for this team. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: you need him to be a sixty homer guy, fifty
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  Speaker 3: homer guy to be, you know, one of your one
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  Speaker 3: of your best players. I think that I don't know
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  Speaker 3: they'll do what he ever did last season again, but
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  Speaker 3: he's he's certainly someone that you trust will hit the
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  Speaker 3: ball to the ballpark.
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  Speaker 4: He's so strong.
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  Speaker 3: He solved whatever problems he had hitting right handed last year.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's some strikeout in his game.
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  Speaker 3: There's there's certainly places where you can get him out,
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  Speaker 3: but you know that power is always going to be
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  Speaker 3: a threat. And he's a great He's a great, great player.
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  Speaker 3: I mean's why this Mariners team along with Julio, with
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  Speaker 3: Naylor and Rosa Rainham, and they have good players all
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  Speaker 3: over all over the field. That's why you trust with
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  Speaker 3: their pitching staff as well, that they're going to you know,
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  Speaker 3: by the end of the season, they're going to be
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  Speaker 3: a playoff team.
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  Speaker 1: How are you enjoying the ABS challenge system this season?
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  Speaker 3: It's it's been really good. I think that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's there's a lot to.
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  Speaker 4: Be liked about it. I think the fact that the.
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  Speaker 3: Teams can get these calls right, especially in the high
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  Speaker 3: leverage spots, are important. I think it's kept the umpires
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  Speaker 3: on their toes more too. I think we're seeing less
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  Speaker 3: game is where the home play umpire is negatively affecting
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  Speaker 3: the game. I think their calls have been better in general,
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  Speaker 3: because you you know, you have that threat of ABS
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  Speaker 3: hanging over them and they're trying to get the call
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  Speaker 3: right to avoid you know, whatever sort of egg on
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  Speaker 3: their face might be there after they get on wrong.
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  Speaker 4: So it's it's been nice.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the challenge system affords the catchers and
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  Speaker 3: the home played umpires that still do their jobs, which
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  Speaker 3: is important to.
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  Speaker 4: I think everyone around the league.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's an argument to be made that they
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  Speaker 3: should just have a B S for every pitch, But
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  Speaker 3: I think I think then you're looking at it.
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  Speaker 4: You're looking at a different game.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're looking at you know, what's the catcher
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  Speaker 3: going to do back.
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  Speaker 4: There if he doesn't have to frame?
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  Speaker 3: You know, what's the umpire going to do back there
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  Speaker 3: if he doesn't really have to call the pitch. So
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  Speaker 3: I think that I understand why some people say it
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  Speaker 3: should be every pitch.
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  Speaker 4: I think that makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: But I think then you're looking you're changing the game
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  Speaker 3: too much, And I think I think they've got it
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  Speaker 3: perfect right now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, nice nice review there. All right, So what's your
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  Speaker 1: Broadcraft cast crew look like tonight? Any wrinkles we need
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  Speaker 1: to know about before we tune in to watch our
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  Speaker 1: team play on Apple TV.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 3: I think Doctell Willison and I are doing the game.
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  Speaker 3: How do you Wantney on the sidelines? I think we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna interview Bobby with in game, which I know some
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  Speaker 3: people find to be a bit distracting when we talk
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  Speaker 3: to players in the middle of the game.
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  Speaker 4: But you know. I think there's also.
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  Speaker 3: And it's an insight in a way to kind of
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  Speaker 3: be in a part of the game more than more
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  Speaker 3: than usual. I like that we do it, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure Bobby won't be too negatively affected by us.
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  Speaker 4: We hope he is tripping in his ear. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: hope he is.
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  Speaker 1: Distract him all you want do a lot of this,
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  Speaker 1: So waite Bobby. You know, just right in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of this question is just to scare him a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: All right, man, Well, thank you for some time. We
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Have fun while you're in Seattle. You you
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  Speaker 1: got any places that you go regularly when you come
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  Speaker 1: to town.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I like to Pink Door.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably my favorite Italian spot here. But a lot
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  Speaker 3: of good restaurants in this city. So if you have
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  Speaker 3: any recommendations passing alone?
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, I'll have Ashley write a few things
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  Speaker 1: down for you. So appreciate it. Have fun tonight, and
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  Speaker 1: how about calling us all win.
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  Speaker 2: We'd appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Wayne, all right, sounds good?
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  Speaker 2: All right, Wayne.
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  Speaker 1: Randazzo joining us right here on chalking back in the
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  Speaker 1: morning play by play man for the Angels, but for
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  Speaker 1: our evening tonight, he's going to be calling the Mariners
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: game against the Kansas City Royals on Apple TV Plus.
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  Speaker 1: You can follow Wayne Randazzo on Twitter at Wayne Randazzo.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: So that was a pretty positive review on the ABS
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  Speaker 1: Challenge system. It's very strange thirty two games into it,
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  Speaker 1: how I can't even imagine the sport being played without it.
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  Speaker 1: That is an odd realization to come to, considering we've
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  Speaker 1: had over a one hundred years of baseball and what
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  Speaker 1: seventy five years of baseball viewing under our belts as
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  Speaker 1: a country, and yet here we have this system. Just
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  Speaker 1: like the strike zone. I can't watch a game without
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  Speaker 1: the strike zone painted over, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Accurate?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, every time I had my microphone on, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: no time, and I'm like, oh wait, I didn't turn
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  Speaker 5: it back on.
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  Speaker 1: And then even the pitch clock, I can't imagine the
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  Speaker 1: games slowing down more than the pace that I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: used to in such a short period of time.
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  Speaker 5: And I thought I was going to be so annoyed
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  Speaker 5: by the pitch clock when they implemented that, I thought,
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  Speaker 5: oh my god, it's going to be so annoying. It's
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  Speaker 5: all I'm ever going to think about is oh, hurry up,
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  Speaker 5: you go, you know the amount of.
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  Speaker 6: Time, and now fifteen seconds feels so long.
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  Speaker 5: Yeh, Like, how did we deal with this having it
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  Speaker 5: like twice as long?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, with no time limit?
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  Speaker 1: But I was actually watching the game last night and
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  Speaker 1: there were like eight seconds on the pitch clock, but
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  Speaker 1: because the hitter got in like box so quickly and
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  Speaker 1: squared up to the pitch so quickly that I actually
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  Speaker 1: yelled at one point like throw the damn ball, And
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  Speaker 1: I looked down there it was like eight seconds left.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: He had eight seconds. He had plenty of wiggle room.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So all these things that, yeah, that I thought
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: because I did think, I didn't think that was going
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: to be a problem, and it is not.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, thank god we have that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: So the first thing with the ABS is I can't
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: believe that. I can't imagine life without it already. And
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: then the second thing about it is I don't really
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: well Number two. We talked about this a lot. Teams
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: are not anywhere close to knowing how to use it.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: They're not even they're not even circling the neighborhood for
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: what they're eventually going to land on. What they're going
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: to allow who gets to challenge, who doesn't get to challenge,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: What situations we're going to challenge in. You know, they're
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: not even close to where they're eventually going to be,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: And I love that. I don't really see one team
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: that feels closer than the other. Everybody feels a low,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: a little bit lost right now. As to how I
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: feel that the Mariners feel lost about how Yeah, I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: think that they are caught in between, not sure what
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: to do with the ABS challenge system at this point.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: But they'll get comfortable with it, and I think that
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: it will start making more sense to everybody, managers, hitters, pitchers, catchers,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: everybody included.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: As we go along.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: And I think there's going to be just a different
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: type of and I think I hope that if individual
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: teams have different type of strategies for how they use
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: it and how they implement it. So that's the second
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me. The third thing is
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: something that Rendazzo brought up. I mean, I've heard the
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: argument for well, if we've gone this far, just robot
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: ump it, just why don't we just get it right?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Every time I hear you, I hear you loud and clear,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying we shouldn't go there eventually, but
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: right now, thirty two games into it, I'm kind of
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: enjoying the game within the game that is the ABS
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Challenge system. I'm kind of enjoying the strategy when to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: use it, when not to use it. I mean you
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: can feel the wheels turning and grinding inside the individual
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: players heads, like should I use it now?
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Should I not use it now?
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And then that sort of breath of that like three
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to six second breath of waiting for it to pop
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: up on your television screen to inform you whether or.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Not the guy was right or if he was a
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: fool because it clearly missed by a quarter of an inch.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: You idiot, Why did you use it?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Then?
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: You sound like the guy from Princess Bride in that moment. Wow,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: And now I want him.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't see you didn't see me puts the glaphad,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: but I touched the glaphin yees see.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: Now I want him to narrate when it gets called
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: corrected on.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, you idiots, stop that rhyming. I mean it, anyone
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: want to Yeah, but yeah, I think.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: That I don't think we're close to where we want
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: to get with it, and yet I'm enjoying sort of
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: watching the players struggle with when how yeah is it okay?
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: If I do it? Should I save it for col
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: And you're yelling at them like, no, don't challenge it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, good they didn't challenge it, or oh, come on,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: challenge it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is just an extra thing.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: To cheer for.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And look, I mean I think what certainly has to
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: be stated about it is that we can't live with
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you know, Oh, I can't believe you challenge it because
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: we have the information at home.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: How do you not challenge it?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: That's why I really believe it does have to ultimately
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: come down to situational and so it's not whether or
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: not you were right or wrong about whether it was
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: a ball or a strike.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be the bread and
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: butter to this. I think what it's going to be
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: about is did you challenge at the right time, in
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: the right place situation. Yeah, That's why I think we
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: kind of learned something from ref Sneyder back on Sunday
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: of he had two very challengeable that was way outside
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: pitches against him, but smartly. He didn't use it the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: first time, at least I think smartly. Maybe it was
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not even hitting. There's no way I'm going to
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: use one of these. When I've got all these guys
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: on tech.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: They'll murder me. I'll feel terrible if I'm wrong. Maybe
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe it was that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: But if he stumbled into it accidentally, then I think
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that was like for me, the first like lesson learning
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: lesson of the entire ABS Challenge system era for the
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Mariners is okay, we just learned something there. He was
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: even in the count. It was clearly outside. He let
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it go and he was down oh one, Who cares.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: You're a major league er. You should be able to
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: hit O one O one one. Oh, I get it,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I get it. It changes. I understand that, But that's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: change throughout history. We're really gonna burn one of our two,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and I think at the time we only had one.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: You think you're right if we only have one? Did? Yes,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: we did, that's correct.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: If we only have one challenge left, are we really
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: gonna use it on getting to a one to oh
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: count versus an oh one count? Is that really what
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do? And so he went ahead and ate it,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: even though he knew the umpire was wrong. So he's
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: in an O one count. Next thing you know, he's
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: in a one two count. H So that umpire did
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: kind of screw him over. But then the umpire misses
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: even worse, and then Resnier's like, okay, that I'm gonna
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: challenge because that's a difference between me striking out or
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: getting another pitch. So I'm gonna go ahead and challenge
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that one, because this is not the difference between one
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and oh and oh and one.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: This is the.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Difference between we me walking back to the dugout having
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: failed my teammates, or maybe with another pitch, I can
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: change the ballgame. And he changed the ballgame he hit
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the home run. Yeah, I can't put too much stock
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: in the home run because that's not gonna happen every time.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: But the way I took that it was like a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: light bulb moment for me, even though I think we
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: all kind of felt that anyway, but it was more
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: confirmation that that is how it has to be used.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: If it's the difference I think Ashley pointed this out
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: in conjunction with me, If it's the difference between striking
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: out or going back to the dugout in a that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was the ninth inning to try to get on base.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Or if it's the difference between walking and keeping a
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: rally started or getting a rally started or seeing another
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: pitch right, then I think it's worth using there. You
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: have to have some sort of tangible benefit from it,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: not just a shifting of the count, right.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: No, it can't just be oh, now I have two
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: Now I'm up two to zero instead.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Of one one. Yes, because now you still have.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Too much room for error in those remaining pitches.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to save that for when Cow's got
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: second and third and needs to use it with one
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: out to try to get an extra pitch.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: So to me, that's the learning lessons that, that's the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: experience we're gonna have with this. And uh and that
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: was to me the first kind of like teaching moment. YEA,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: if I'm Dan Wilson, I'm like this this, this, That
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: was the guys, guys, goys, guys, this, this, this, this
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: this yeah. Uh and not JP thinks that the o
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: oh pitch missed by a quarter of an inch and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: he's just he's got a really good eye.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: We got to trust him. No, it's not even worth it, right,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I don't care if.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: You're U that's the benefit, because again, too much room
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: for error in the remaining pitches, and you wasted a
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: challenge in something that didn't benefit you in any way.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I don't care if a mediocre hitter in a non
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: threatening situation is up one oh on the count versus
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: oh one, because I know the next pitch you're just
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: going to swing out of your ass anyway and probably
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: pop it up.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: I will say it's sad because it's true. I will
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: say I was. When we played the Yankees. I was
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: nervous they had it figured out already because the way
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: they were just challenging every thing and getting them all right.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: I thought, oh my god, how did this team figure
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: it out so quickly? And now they've come back down
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: to earth. Yeah, but I got so nervous, like they're
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: just gonna crush everybody because they can just they they
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: somehow have a magical eyeball.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what Tom Berducci was saying. He didn't think
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: people were using it enough. Keep using it, use it,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: use it. I don't know. I don't think that's right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And I like Tom Braducci, But I don't think the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: way the Yankees were doing it is sustainable either. They
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: just happened to be in a groove with a bad
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: umpire and a wild pitcher at that point. Yeah, all right,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: coming up next on the program. Yes, this is the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Friday after the NFL Draft and my final NFL Draft conversation.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: But this one's going to be a little different than
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the normal draft conversation. This is about what everybody else
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: has learned from John and Mike in a very short
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: period of time. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: All right, it's Chuck and it's Ashley with you here
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: on this Friday.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Great to have you with us.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: We got Booze News coming up to close out the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: week here before the show comes to an end.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: But it's also a little bit of an end. Yes,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I am moving on.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I'm moving on as father draft miss, and I'm encouraging
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: everyone too.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: It's hard though.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, they used to wrestle
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Andre the Giant all the time. Yeah, in professional wrestling,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Vince McMahon Sr. Took
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: over and he said, hey, look what are you doing.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: First of all, he's seven foot five, five hundred pounds,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: and I get he's your feature detraction, but you're going
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to wear him out. Secondly, you're making him way too
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: available to the public, and what you need to do
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: is use him sparingly, build up the anticipation, create the demand,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: create a demand, and then he's when you do get
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: to see Andre the Giant in your city, it's such
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a special, mind blowing event that you can't believe that
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you just went through it. And so it really did
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: kind of set the way that sports started getting marketing
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: way back when that started happening, and I learned from
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: my predecessors.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: You're right, what was it uncle Draftmas before you?
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to talk about Draftmas every day
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the year.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just not going to do it. Wow. Good for you.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I don't care how much demand there is for it. Wow,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: you are a man of the people.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I am going to keep it so where you're constantly
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: craving it, and then by the time the holiday season
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: comes around, I'm just going to give you.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: A spoonful after spoonful, and you will, you will, you
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: will drink from the cup.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: I'm going to have to tell all of our Texters
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: that are begging for more Draftmas.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Sorry, the Draftmas is spoken. So hate to break.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: It to you, but this is probably going to be
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the last time I talk about the NFL Draft for
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a while, this very segment right here. But I'm going
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to talk about it in a little different way because
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: we've had a conversation here repeatedly over the course of
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the draft miss Holiday about how the Seahawks certainly have
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: shifted away from doing things and not wholeheartedly. They still
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: evaluate talent the same way. John Schneider has always had
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: a great eye for talent, and certainly I think what
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald has introduced, coupled with John's knowledge and expertise, boy,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: it's just created this unbelievable chemistry with how they're handling
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: draft picks free agent additions, and it's led.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: To a super Bowl.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Prematurely, it's led to a super Bowl for the organization.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: But there were a couple of adjustments things that Greg
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: and I have talked about repeatedly. Greg Bella, myself is
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: just that Saturday that we do the draft, hearing the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: different players drafted and how engaging they are, how bright
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: they are how football and love they are. And that's
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: certainly been a change in an adjustment, we'll call it
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: an adjustment. It's not like John and Pete never liked
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: players who loved football or liked or didn't like high
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: character guys. But the adjustment, not the change, but the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: adjustment has been No, No, we're only going to take
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: those guys. We are only going to take those guys.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: They've got to have both. Yeah, they have.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Got to have passion for the game, love for the game,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: love for learning, an intense desire to be better, to
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: be great at this, but also to be a team
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: player as well, and not just somebody who was out
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: for individual accolades. I mean, wide receiver is the most
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: famous position we have associate with divas in the sport
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: of football and maybe in all sports wide receivers in
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Does anything get called a diva more than
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: wide receivers in the NFL, I'm not sure that.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: No, they do.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe Kevin Durant or Lebron James, I don't know. No,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I still think wide receivers haven't beat.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, I don't disagree with you on that.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And yet, who do we have we have JSN. What
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: does he say after every game, I don't care we won. Yeah,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I know. I caught eleven balls last
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: week and only caught three balls this week. Most time
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I catch seven or eight balls. It's not like I'm
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: being ignored. We did what we had to do to
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: win the game today, and I'll take that every single time,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: non diva like yeah, very very so we married that,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: that sort of adjustment that they've made and how to
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: build a roster, and we married that with a conversation
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I heard. Actually, there's Colin Coward on nine point fifty
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: on the way home, and he was talking about and
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: he's been talking about for while. I'll give him credit
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: for this because he usually only has five topics and
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: he just repeats them over and over.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: But he was.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Talking about how he's just drawn the line at I
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: am not going to invest in a wide receiver who
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: shows diva qualities. Hey, I'll let somebody else.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Deal with that headache.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And he brought up JSN, and he brought up
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald. I'll sign them for the rest of their career.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I'll just keep throwing money at those guys because not
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: only are they great, but they also are team oriented.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I think we are to the point he was pointing
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: out that teams should start moving entirely away because we
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: really went very aggressively toward making sure you get that
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. One get an elite wide receiver, both in
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the draft and both in free agency, and not letting
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: them leave. I mean, Cincinnati resigned both of their guys
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to make sure that they didn't go. And I do
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: think one of the two who has a little bit
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: of Deva in him, a little bit of de I mean,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: he might be the best in the world right now.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: They got a little bit of Deva in him. But
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: his point was that you're starting to see teams say, hey,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the juice isn't worth the squeeze. That's a lot of
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: money that I get got to get to a very
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: talented player. But if I'm going to give that much money,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: they better be the whole package. They better be about winning,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and better not be about themselves. And so I think
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: what we are seeing in the sports world, it's a
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: copycat league.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Right you.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Have a open offense like the Greatest Show on Turf,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: and you win a Super Bowl that way, watch for
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the next five years everybody try to match you with
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: the greatest show on turf.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: You have a.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Phenomenal defense like the Baltimore Ravens had in the Ray
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Lewis Days. Watch for the next five years. Teams try
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to figure out what are they doing that is so cool?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: You know, whatever the case may be, you want a championship.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Everybody's studying what you did differently and they're doing right
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: now and trying to win a championship.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Isn't it refreshing?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Even though we have a genius on defense, and even
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: though we've got a red hot general manager.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Isn't it refreshing?
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Isn't this great not just for sports fans, but for
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: humankind that the Seahawks have won a world championship a
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: year earlier and we're given about as much credit to
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: culture as we're given to anything else. Isn't it refreshing
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that the copycatting that might be taking place on the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Seahawks championship is I just want team.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Players like they have.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Isn't that awesome? That's not just great for sports, in
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: my opinion, that's just great for humanity.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: I fully agree, and I mean I understood there's a
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: lot of old school people who are like, I don't care.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: I just want dirt bags on my team. I just
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: want to win, you know. And I get that and
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: I don't. But the thing that's so important about the
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Seahawks is they aren't putting the character of the person
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: over the skills and the talent of the person very important.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: They are putting them both as measurables that are important
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: as pieces of this team. It's not well, no, we
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: care about the character first and then hopefully they're really good.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Well no, because you that wouldn't be a good way
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: to win. Talent has to be first. Yes, there's no question.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: You're not just I mean, if that's the case, then
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: you know, the.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Seahawk should just draw draft Chris Kid. Oh I would
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: draft him.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But talent has to be first, and it is,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: and they've That's that's why I'm saying it's an adjustment.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: It's not a change. We haven't gone to character first.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, But what they are saying is, let's evaluate the
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: players that we like, the talent that we like, who
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: fits the defense, who fits the offense, and then the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: tiebreaker between one guy or the other is character.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, We're.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Not going to take somebody anymore. That is just a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: talent that we're going to have, you know, that old mentality.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Give him to me, I'll coach him up.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I've yet so give me a freakish athlete, don't. I mean,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Pete had this in him. Give me a freakish athlete.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'll coach, I'll make.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Him a team player.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Well, you did that pretty successfully for all a couple
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: of years, every single time, and then all of a
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: sudden they all started getting away from you.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Didn't.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean as much as we did, like DK
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: metcalf and I don't really put him in a category
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: of a problem or a trouble maker or a bad teammate.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I don't do that at all. But he was about DK.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: He was about DK in the game.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: He was about DK in the off season. I mean
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: he was the one that asked for a trade. I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: mean as yeah, I agat it. We had the conversations
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: on Monday morning almost every week. The entire time was here,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: he needs to get the ball more. But that can't
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: manifest itself in stupid penalties. It can't manifest itself and
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: bad affect on the sidelines. And he got to the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: point where he was like This is just not the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: right place. You want to talk about not reading the
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: tea leaves. He's got Mike McDonald, he's got John Schneider.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, we were all seeing that this thing was
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: moving in a right direction, and DK won it out.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: You want to talk about not reading the tea leaves.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he's kicking himself now.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: And by the way, he goes to Pittsburgh, he didn't
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: put up any better numbers than he had here.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: So and he had a quarterback in Pittsburgh who wasn't
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: going to put up with any of his whining either.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: And so I think the point was good that Herd
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: was making yesterday. And I think it falls unto this
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: category of yes, we are talent first, but we're not
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: driving any guys without character anymore. And we are not
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: giving big time money to people that aren't team players.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: That's who we're going to invest in. And so we've
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: identified them, we've tried after them, we've developed them, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: most of the credit, of course, goes to the individuals
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: like JSN. But now we're going to reward that guy
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: because we don't want JSN in another locker room. And
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: so to me, I mean, Devin Witherspoon JSN got the deal.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Witherspoon's still waiting for his and he's going to get
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: it eventually, but he's operating without it right now. So
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: you would think somebody that has that much money coming
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: their way isn't going to.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Do extra practice.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Who's the first guy that showed up for open gym
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: with the Seahawks this offseason?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Twenty one?
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Yep is showing there? Like, where have you guys been?
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I've been here since three am. Let's go open the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: doors late. Yeah, I gotta lift some weights here, I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: gotta get better. I mean, that is that's culture. That's phenomenal.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe I'm a little bit of
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: a romantic about it, hopeless romantic about it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Sign me up then, because I'm right there with you.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: But it feels like.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks have figured out the culture element of this
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: without sacrificing the talent element this, And it feels like
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the rest of the National Football League is studying it
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: and saying, you know, I think they got something.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I think there's something to this. We got to stop,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: we got to stop overpaying turds. Yeah, you should just
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: flush the turds.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: There are great players out there with great talent who
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: also have great character.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Let's lean hard into that. Yeah, I'm here for it,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: like it all right, Booze News next on kJ R,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: this report I don't care about no shot short.
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: Breaks would be one way to sing that song.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Don't want no short short Breaks. Wasn't that a song?
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, don't want no short short man?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Was that fair to anybody?
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: No?
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Probably not, probably not. Yeah, it wasn't.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: I bet short guys everywhere were like, we didn't want
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: you either.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I mean Chris Kidd ain't exactly gangly. Well, it's all short,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: but he's not exactly towering.
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's accurate if you put him next to Spencer.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly doesn't look large.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Well, he looks short compared to Spencer. But I look
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: short compared to Spencer.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I think everyone does.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: He probably hasn't even heard of that song. Will that
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: offend you if you heard if there was a hit
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: song out there that was talking about don't want no
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: short short man.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I think over the years, there's just been so many
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: songs about men being short. There's another song, true, it's unfair.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I can't remember it, but maybe people got no Booze News.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I'll have the answer. Yeah, yeah, look it up.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I don't put you in that category, kid, but I'm just.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Saying, yeah, hey kid, aren't you glad we got all
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: the Draftnas decorations put away?
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't mind it. Yeah, I was just joking because
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the tree is still in the corner. I see what
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: you did there, revealed.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just still covered in tinsel.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: That's gorgeous.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is really pretty. It's really pretty. We won't
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: be forgotten, all right.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Uh well, if we're talking to Chris Kid right now,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: it must mean that we are to the end of
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the week and you know what happens.
• 39:02
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• 41:02
  Speaker 5: So in this past week, Russell Wilson is a banana.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Russell Wilson is a backup to Gino Russell Wilson is
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: a CBS broadcaster.
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: Ooh, so many versions of Russell Wilson.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I know. So let's see for Metallica he could be.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: So in the past week we have seen Russell Wilson
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: suited up for the Savannah Bananas. There's been a rumor
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: that he could be a backup for the Jets, a
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: backup to Gino Smith, which would be interesting, and as
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: of today, a rumor that he might be joining the
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: CBS broadcast team. So I thought we could contemplate these
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: three options for our former quarterback.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, with a word cloud.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: Okay, we'll start with Russell Wilson as a banana and
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: I'll just throw this out there just off the top
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: of my head.
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: Yellow and round those are the two things I think of.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he looked a little chubby, Yeah, a little bit. Yeah,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: he's been fond of the food. This all fond of
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the food.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: All right, there we go, so yellow round.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: He was also very smiley. He was very much enjoying
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: what he was doing. I think, right, yeah, I think so.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: All right, Russell Wilson as a backup to Gino. I'll
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: start weird.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Weird, Yeah, yeah, that's up there.
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: Would it be like full circle?
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Is that?
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: That's good?
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: Probably? Yeah, yeah, okay, let's go.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Russell Wilson as a CBS broadcaster cheesy, irritating. Do you
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: guys want to see him on the CBS broadcast team?
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: You know, I think he might end up surprising you
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: in that role, because I do believe he's bright, and
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I do believe he knows football. Agreed, If he just
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: gives himself into I'm a football and I am analyzing football.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not here too for you know, like for me.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: But that's what I worry for.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: His people, Yeah, will always push the agenda about him.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And that's where I get worried.
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: I'm a little worried.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: About Russell trying to do anything new ever since he
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: tried to sell sandwiches.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Eh.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, be careful, it's spicy. I mean, these are the
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: things I think about too. I'm like, ooh, when somebody
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: has a deal, all I'm gonna picture is Russell Wilson
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: in the middle of.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: The night in bed goins, Seattle.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: We got a deal, and he's gonna say, oh, look,
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, they got a deal.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I just don't want any of it.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: If I get weigh in on this, I would just
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: say this, like those three things, as long as he
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't try to be an actor, because he cannot act now,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: so please, because you know that was floating around in
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: his head.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: You know that she put that in his head.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Sure like you you know you've got to finish strong
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: with your sports so you can just launch your acting career.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: He is a terrible actor.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: He will be much if he stays away from that
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I can see him. I could even see him being
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: a successful Savannah banana.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: But he could just do that full time. He's got
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: baseball skills, So I.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Try to pick one of them.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: I think that's the place he should be because they perform,
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: they put on a show, right. It is about being
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: cheesy and over the top. They've got dances, they've got
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: trick plays. I feel like that would be the perfect
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: spot for him and he'd have a blast. Yeah, I
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: don't know, that would be my choice. And then I
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: don't have to see him on my TV all the time.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: Just saying, the m's host the Royals this weekend, And
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: of course we all know the names Bobby Witt Junior
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: and Vinnie Pasquentino aka Passquatch. But I will say this,
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: much like a sasquatch, I hope we don't see Vinnie
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: Pasquentino this weekend.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: Just yeah, he's a day to day. Let's just make
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: him day to day.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Or have you seen what they do in Kansas City
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: with him? No, Like there is a sasquatch and he
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: comes out and he walks the wall when he hits
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: a home run. So he'll walk, he'll walk around the
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: concourse out by the fountains. Yeah, well they keep him
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: behind closed doors, the sasquatch, and you can see its
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: eyes through like on the top of the door.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Like he can't like he's just can't wait to wait
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: to get out.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: So every time he goes to the plate, they showed
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the sasquatch who's standing just inside the doorway to really
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: like that's really.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: I really like Passquatch. I mean, it's a great nickname,
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: but I also just like him. He seems like a
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: great dude. I just don't want him. Also because we
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: have a history with people who have been injured or
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: slightly injured coming in and crushing ourselves.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't need that from Passqua.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Kal thedor Perez is the one that kills us. Oh yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: let's keep that guy.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: From killing Yeah, let's do that.
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: The Mariners are going to be retiring the number fifty
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: one in honor of Randy Johnson to borrow night.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Not sure if you heard this.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: It is going to be the first time that the
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: number fifty one will be hanging from the T mobile
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: rafters since last August.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: You know what, maybe this I thought you made a
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: great point.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: There are some that just make fifty one an honored Yeah,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: that's what they should do. So if you're not going
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to retire, you can't have two retires. So maybe we
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: just give fifty one to a great player. It's like
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: an honor to it.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: I think that's a great idea.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: I mean not just because I came up with it,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: but it is a decent idea as well.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I had idea cold Emerson's number. Fifty one, I mean
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: puts a lot of pressure on the guy, but they
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: did it with Jeter in New York. You're going to
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: be the last single digit number that we ever give out.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: And that worked out, and you can ask them, they
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: can say, no, I don't want that pressure. Yeah, thank you, Okay,
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: move on. Also, lastly, before I go, just a reminder.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Today is May first, Kate Anderson. Yeah, I'll take it.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I'll take it.
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: Today is May first, aka May Day.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: So it is the day that all the idiots go
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: and smash all the storefronts.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: So let's just not do that today.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: That'd be nice.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Just no, just no, because you know what spring is
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: in the air and it's sprung and let's just make it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: What did you say, just no too earlier?
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: Just know to what did I say that, Oh, to
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Mark Zuckerberg buying the Seahawks, Yeah that too.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, let's.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Just know that.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's know that. Yeah. No, just no.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Cheers, cheers everyone, have a good weekend, enjoy the weather.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you on Monday at six a m.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: I just realized I was showing this to that camera
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: over there, because that's where it used to be. This
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: is the Yellowstone, And this whole time I was like, yeah,
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: it doesn't help.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: There you go, there, you go. Sorry, go on, nice work. Yeah,
• 46:58
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