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Radio Daze with Jason & Molly Mesnick · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today we were joined
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Speaker 2: by Jason and Molly, the stars of this episode and
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Speaker 2: stars within it, and beloved people, the goats within Bacheloration
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Speaker 2: some would call them. They're gonna be here to day
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Speaker 2: to break down this episode of gen season of The Bachelorette,
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Speaker 2: Jason Erlik calls you and asks you to host this date.
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Speaker 2: Did you have any say in the concept of the date?
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Speaker 3: No? I mean, you know, it's funny.
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Speaker 4: They called up and they're like, hey, we're thinking about
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Speaker 4: doing a radio show date. I'm like, oh my god,
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Speaker 4: that's similar to what we did on the show, you know,
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Speaker 4: fifteen years ago.
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Speaker 3: They're like, oh, really, like they.
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Speaker 5: Forget they realized exact same date on.
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Speaker 4: I was like, are you guys going to call the
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Speaker 4: guy who hosted it, who Molly's former co host named Bender?
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Speaker 3: Are you gonna call him? And they're like, damn no.
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Speaker 4: We like they had no idea, so luckily, like we're
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Speaker 4: able to kind of run through and make reintroductions to people.
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Speaker 4: So not that we help plan it, but I think
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Speaker 4: we helped get Bender.
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Speaker 3: On the show a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because they were going to use the other guy
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Speaker 4: who's on there. His name is Jubil, who's a big
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Speaker 4: kind of national guy. They were going to him, and
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Speaker 4: Bender loves this stuff. You get to kick out of it.
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Speaker 4: So I think we were able to piece some things
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Speaker 4: together to make it more fun for everybody.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but otherwise no, we have no say.
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Speaker 2: And you know, I do want to kind of briefly
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Speaker 2: run through the whole episode with the two of you,
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Speaker 2: because you have seen the whole episode at this point,
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Speaker 2: but to kind of finish the first couple thoughts on
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Speaker 2: the date did they give you? Because I've hosted a
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Speaker 2: couple of dates for them. They usually give you a
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Speaker 2: little bit of a run around on who the guys
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Speaker 2: are and what you should expect, but it's not extensive.
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Speaker 2: The details have never like I've never been able to
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Speaker 2: make sense of the characters until you watch it maybe
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Speaker 2: the season back and like, okay, now that makes sense
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Speaker 2: of what they were telling me. How much prep did
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Speaker 2: they give you going into that day on who was
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Speaker 2: coming and what they were like?
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Speaker 5: They gave us a rundown of all of the guys coming.
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Speaker 5: They I mean, the biggest thing they honed in on
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Speaker 5: is that she was obsessed.
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Speaker 4: With say, so, my recollection is we didn't get a
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Speaker 4: rundown until we walked into the studio, like right before,
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Speaker 4: and they have like just pictures of each guy and
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Speaker 4: this is like maybe an hour before we start filming,
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Speaker 4: and we're like, Okay, there's that guy. He's gonna be
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Speaker 4: sitting over there, that guy's gonna be here, what's sitting
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Speaker 4: over there? And like, but when they walk in, I
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Speaker 4: think we know some of their faces. And then we
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Speaker 4: talked to Jen a little bit before they before we
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Speaker 4: start rolling, and that's where we kind of figured out
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Speaker 4: like who Sam was and who the other guys were.
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Speaker 5: But it's surprising to me, and I don't know why surprising.
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Speaker 5: I know how the show works, but they they really
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Speaker 5: were like she is obsessed with him, she loves him,
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Speaker 5: she can't get him out of her head. But then
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Speaker 5: watching the season up to this point, they don't make
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Speaker 5: it seem like that. So editing is a tricky, funny thing.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 5: Well, they also told me, and I don't know if
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Speaker 5: you're remem of us, and I'm not going to say
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Speaker 5: his name because I don't know what they told me.
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Speaker 5: Someone else in the group was more of like the
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Speaker 5: villain that people were getting in fights with, and that's
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Speaker 5: not at all how it's being presented on the show.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm not sure your process of like how
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Speaker 4: you want to go through the show, but I will say,
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Speaker 4: based on her conversation with us producer's conversation with us,
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Speaker 4: I can't believe it went the way it did. Like
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Speaker 4: I thought she was all in on this guy and
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Speaker 4: he was hometown days for for sure, and like, I
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Speaker 4: like watching it last night. We just watched it last night.
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Speaker 4: I was like, I mean I knew that at the end,
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Speaker 4: like he wasn't gonna be the right fit. But I'm like,
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Speaker 4: she loved this guy. And within twelve hours she was gone,
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Speaker 4: or maybe twenty four hours he had gone.
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Speaker 3: I was like, what the heck happened?
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Speaker 2: You're getting produced?
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Speaker 6: How does it?
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Speaker 2: How does it feel to get produced? To get it?
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Speaker 2: You're gonna produce real hard.
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Speaker 4: But she also liked him, Like she walked in and
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Speaker 4: we were like, okay, come on, just tell us who
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Speaker 4: do you like And she's like Sam Sam Sam, Sam
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Speaker 4: Sam Sam, And I'm like, okay, like let's dig into Sam.
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Speaker 5: But at the same time, when they when we gave
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Speaker 5: them like they're alone time the two of them to talk.
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Speaker 5: We were still in the room. We both walked out.
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Speaker 5: We saw her face change mid conversation, like you could
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Speaker 5: almost see the light bulb go off in her head
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Speaker 5: where it's like this guy, ain't it interesting?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's shocking. Okay, I want to continue this conversation,
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Speaker 2: but let's start at the beginning, because we do have
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Speaker 2: an episode of Breakdown and I don't want to keep
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Speaker 2: you guys all day. Jin and the men are in
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Speaker 2: Seattle this week, obviously because we have Jason and Molly
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Speaker 2: here with us helping break down this week's episode. Jason
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Speaker 2: and Molly, Hey, you live in Seattle, so this was
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Speaker 2: just a ratic around the corner for you too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like old hat.
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean actually in the radio station where
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Speaker 4: Molly used to work.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a super cool piece of information. I
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Speaker 2: didn't think I realized that you did radio for seven years,
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Speaker 2: but that was the radio station, so it felt at
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Speaker 2: home for you to go back and host a date there.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, all the people in the building, my boss.
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Speaker 3: Who helped set all this up, Molly's chest pumping, everybody
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Speaker 3: else walk the door.
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Speaker 2: She's always the star of the show, Jason, No, wonder
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Speaker 2: you don't watch it. He's just kind of the goat.
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Speaker 2: She's the goat. We start out this episode with a
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Speaker 2: scene of charity in gin to Together. Charity is probably
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Speaker 2: a breath of fresh air for Jim. I'm assuming Jason,
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Speaker 2: when you were the Bachelor, did any past bachelor's come
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Speaker 2: on your season?
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Speaker 4: No, when I was on the Batch, when I was
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Speaker 4: on the Bachelorette, the girl who was the Bachelorette. No, No,
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Speaker 4: when I was the bachelor in New Zealand, the girl
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Speaker 4: who I was on the batch, she came, and I
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Speaker 4: think they wanted to bring some drama into it, and
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Speaker 4: she was just there for advice, but they made it
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Speaker 4: look like she was coming to try to get me back.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it.
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Speaker 3: Had nothing to do that.
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Speaker 2: Well, we've mentioned that Jason, you haven't watched a lot
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Speaker 2: of this season, but Molly you have, and so going
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Speaker 2: into this episode, kind of what were you looking forward
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Speaker 2: to finding out about these guys before you got to
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Speaker 2: meet him actually in person. I mean, obviously Marcus has
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Speaker 2: the first one on one date. That's somebody that you know.
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Speaker 2: I think the viewership has been very excited about since
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Speaker 2: the beginning very intrigued by because he has been more reserved.
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Speaker 2: So anybody else that you're really excited to learn more
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Speaker 2: about this week?
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Speaker 5: Gosh. I mean there's so many guys that I don't
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Speaker 5: feel like they've developed very much. Like we knew nothing
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Speaker 5: about Spencer going into this, we knew nothing about Jeremy
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Speaker 5: going into this, Like they're kind of the whole season
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Speaker 5: has really been focused between Devin and Sam, So I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 5: I think I just we wanted to know more about
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Speaker 5: everyone other than.
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Speaker 4: Those two, don't you think when you were Also, when
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Speaker 4: you were in there, it was pretty obvious who the
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Speaker 4: good dudes were.
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Speaker 5: I mean, we'll get into our date. Jason and I
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Speaker 5: walked away from it and we were like, Okay, on
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Speaker 5: the count of three, say who your favorite was in
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Speaker 5: the room, and we both have the same answer.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I do think the show has had seasons going back
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Speaker 2: in for and Ashley and I are always very critical
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Speaker 2: but also very celibratory for the show because it has
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Speaker 2: brought us a lot of good things in life. I
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Speaker 2: do think what we're seeing in some of the most
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Speaker 2: recent seasons, not Joey's. I think Joey's was kind of
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Speaker 2: an anomaly here. The character building of the contestants has
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Speaker 2: been weak, Yeah, meaning we don't get to know much
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Speaker 2: about any of them, but when we do, we get
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Speaker 2: tied in because we root for him or I mean
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Speaker 2: most of the time we're just rooting for him. There's
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Speaker 2: very few people from Joe's season we were ever cheering against.
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Speaker 2: It's just you get to know their stories.
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Speaker 4: Is that intentional that they're not doing the character stuff
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Speaker 4: you think or the character development?
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Speaker 2: I would assume it's not, because I think the show
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Speaker 2: knows they want to do that. My assumption is that
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Speaker 2: they don't have the contestants that actually have the ability
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Speaker 2: to do it, meaning they're not as open, they're more reserved,
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Speaker 2: they're not great in the itms, they're not kind of
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Speaker 2: they're maybe a little more on edge. Typically up until
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Speaker 2: this season, I would have blamed it on the lead
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Speaker 2: for not bringing that out in them, But I think
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Speaker 2: Jen is bringing out in them. I don't think they're
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Speaker 2: reciprocating kind of that response on here's my story, here's
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Speaker 2: what I'm dealing with, Here's what I'm looking for. It's
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Speaker 2: just I think it's hard.
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Speaker 3: I don't even know, and like Jens, Jen was awesome.
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Speaker 4: We had a great time with her, but the producers
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Speaker 4: also said, like from their perspective.
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Speaker 5: Generally having a hard time getting pulling.
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Speaker 3: Stuff out of her.
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Speaker 4: They thought Jen was being a little bit more close
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Speaker 4: and I again, I only have one episode to watch him.
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Speaker 3: Like, man, she looks great, right, she's doing great on
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Speaker 3: this thing.
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Speaker 4: But like what they had said up to the point
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Speaker 4: when we met them was it was more challenging for them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that makes sense.
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Speaker 5: So good in the episode to see more of Marcus
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Speaker 5: and like hear more of his personal family life. I mean,
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Speaker 5: they just teed him up if he wants to be
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Speaker 5: a bachelor, Like holy hell, I.
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Speaker 4: Mean I watched one episode and I'm like, if he
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Speaker 4: the only reason if he's not the bachelor he is
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Speaker 4: if he says.
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Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean this episode or he gets chosen.
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Speaker 2: But like, yeah, this episode was it was I'd say,
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Speaker 2: I don't know how to the adjective maybe shocking to
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Speaker 2: me because we don't know a lot about him, but
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Speaker 2: we do know that he know he served, he's a veteran,
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Speaker 2: He's gone through a bunch of stuff, and he's he's
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Speaker 2: mentioned that, but he has been more reserved in every
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Speaker 2: other moment other than when he's like opened up at
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Speaker 2: the very beginning of the season. This episode he shares
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Speaker 2: his story, and his story is one where I'm sitting
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Speaker 2: here at my desk as I watch the episode and
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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I wrote a whole book on loneliness
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Speaker 2: and why you know, on connection, and I'm like, this
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Speaker 2: guy has a story that so many people are gonna
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Speaker 2: benefit from because it's an incredible story and he's come
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Speaker 2: through it and now you see him on national television.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope again, like I can't imagine going through
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Speaker 4: something like he did, but like that was the.
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Speaker 1: For me.
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Speaker 4: That's the reason to watch the show. Like the drama
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Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. I hope people enjoy it,
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Speaker 4: but like seeing a character or human like that that
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Speaker 4: has accomplished and could come over so much stuff.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's awesome.
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Speaker 2: Well, the two of you could probably because I just
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Speaker 2: jobbing down some notes. The two of you could probably
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Speaker 2: attest to this. It's pretty wild to me and one
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Speaker 2: of my favorite parts watching the show at this point.
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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of these people are a lot
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Speaker 2: younger than me. Life has moved on for me. But
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Speaker 2: the thing that always this show does when it's good is.
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Speaker 2: It reminds me of the value of human story and
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Speaker 2: that everybody has a story. And I'm sure coming off
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Speaker 2: of your seasons when you were on the show, there
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Speaker 2: were moments where you're looking around being like, these are
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Speaker 2: some incredible people and they've all been through something. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and that's to me something special to watch well.
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Speaker 4: And I know, even thinking about like my story, I know,
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Speaker 4: really the only reason that they wanted me was the
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Speaker 4: single dad, you know, divorce guy. And granted, like I
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Speaker 4: hope people like me other than that, but I know,
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Speaker 4: like when we were going through casting for The Batcher
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Speaker 4: and they were pretty transparent with me, like who they
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Speaker 4: were also considering, but like, I think it was the
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Speaker 4: whole story of like this guy and his kid.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and it's this relatable story.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure at the time too, that story was a
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Speaker 2: little like shocking for them to want to put on
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Speaker 2: because that hadn't been done before. They were you know,
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Speaker 2: walking down a very easy line up until that point,
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Speaker 2: and you know, it pushed the boundary a little bit.
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Speaker 2: But Marcus's story just is heartwarming and he's obviously getting
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Speaker 2: the Rose, but as you said, if he's not chosen
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Speaker 2: and if he says yes to it, there's zero chance
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Speaker 2: he's not the Bachelor, right, I know.
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Speaker 4: I mean zero, Like I think his story and again
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Speaker 4: like he comes like I think he's probably as authentic
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Speaker 4: as he comes across. But to kind of crack open
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Speaker 4: that story even more, like how could you not love
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Speaker 4: that guy?
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Speaker 2: Everybody's got a root for him. So he does get
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Speaker 2: the rose, he's moving on to hometowns. He's a lock,
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Speaker 2: He's at the top of our list, he's a favorite.
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Speaker 2: And then we have a group date. We have a
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Speaker 2: group date that Jeremy is very hope, very he's very
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Speaker 2: much hoping he doesn't go on because he's the only
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Speaker 2: one without a one on one date up until this point.
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Speaker 2: I thought that there was a reason for that. My
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Speaker 2: mind was changed after his date. But the group date happens,
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Speaker 2: and the names on the list of the men who
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Speaker 2: are going on the group date are Spencer, Jonathan, Sam, Devin,
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Speaker 2: and Grant, and Jen says, I want I love that
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Speaker 2: listens now it's an interesting note card. I don't really
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Speaker 2: know what that means, but Jason Emala, you do know
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Speaker 2: what that means. And so what we find is that
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Speaker 2: they show up to a radio station that you're both
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Speaker 2: at that you're hosting this date, and you've mentioned your
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Speaker 2: two co hosts that are in the room with you
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Speaker 2: as well. What was your hope for this date? Well,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, when you host a date, you
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Speaker 2: obviously are kind of told, hey, this is how it's
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Speaker 2: going to work, and this was going to go on.
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Speaker 2: But you also have some freedom to get something out
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Speaker 2: of this date that you want as the host of
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Speaker 2: the date. What were the two of you wanting for
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Speaker 2: this date?
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Speaker 5: Well, I think first of all, this is a really
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Speaker 5: tricky type of date because you are forcing these guys
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Speaker 5: to express their feelings for Jen in front of one another.
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Speaker 5: And it's not like they're doing it in a funny
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Speaker 5: way where it's like a song or a dance or
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Speaker 5: like a comedy show like they've done in the past.
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Speaker 5: It was like you needed to share your real, true
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Speaker 5: feelings about her in a serious way with everyone else
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Speaker 5: that lives with you in the same room. So I
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Speaker 5: get that it could be really uncomfortable. Jen made the
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Speaker 5: comment like, I feel like it's a who loves Jen
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Speaker 5: competition more And that's truly how it felt when we
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Speaker 5: were in that room. It's like everyone was trying to
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Speaker 5: one up the next person.
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Speaker 4: I always like, like, my hope was like trying to
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Speaker 4: figure her out, whether it was on camera or off camera,
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Speaker 4: because you know, we filmed for outs, right, and they
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Speaker 4: give you ten minutes on camera or they So my
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Speaker 4: hope was to find somebody who identify somebody who was
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Speaker 4: a good guy, right, like especially the era being so
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Speaker 4: different now where people are trying to get more followers
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Speaker 4: and Instagram and all that kind of stuff, like to
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Speaker 4: see like who looks at you in the eye when
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Speaker 4: they're talking to you, right, Who isn't a complete douche bag?
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Speaker 3: Like who who.
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Speaker 5: Really is saying what they think she wants to hear.
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Speaker 5: There was one very clear winner in that room for
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Speaker 5: being genuine and how.
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Speaker 3: They spoke none you can tell them who was it?
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Speaker 5: Hey, let's have you guess who do you think? We
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Speaker 5: walked away and we were like that dude is in
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Speaker 5: this for real.
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Speaker 3: We love him and we and the one of the
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Speaker 3: producers said the same thing afterwards.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, my first guess is Jonathan.
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Speaker 5: Yep, without without a doubt. When we would ask him questions,
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Speaker 5: he wouldn't respond to us. He would look straight at
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Speaker 5: Jen and as if he was talking to her and
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Speaker 5: no one else was in the room. It was amazing.
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Speaker 4: And he's also those type of guys where if you're
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Speaker 4: having a conversation he'll ask you something where like and
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Speaker 4: I know, you get.
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Speaker 3: To this with Sam, it's like me, me, me, me me.
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Speaker 4: Jonathan was the complete opposite out of editing editing or not.
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Speaker 4: That was just like, hey, let me ask you a question,
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Speaker 4: super thoughtful.
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Speaker 3: Super good.
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Speaker 5: He was amazing. We walked away and were like, he's awesome.
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Speaker 2: So he was easily when you guys got in the
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Speaker 2: car and you said one, two, three, who's your favorite Jonathan.
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Speaker 4: Without a doubt, Like it's not like if they're attracted
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Speaker 4: to do each other and all that kind of stuff,
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Speaker 4: but just like as good as you can me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because at this point too, you're hosting a date
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Speaker 2: and there is no way for you to watch the
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Speaker 2: episodes before and so you don't No matter what, you
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Speaker 2: wouldn't have known anything about these guys leading up to
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Speaker 2: that day because they're filming a show.
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Speaker 4: I mean a little bit like they were telling like
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Speaker 4: where they did, where they just came from, and that
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Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But other than that, we had I
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Speaker 4: mean just their pictures on our on our desk.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was interesting, just the environment of the date
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Speaker 7: where you have to kind of, you know, speak your
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Speaker 7: love for her and there you've watched this season.
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of smooth talkers on this season. Yeah, right,
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Speaker 5: And so not knowing any of the backstory of any
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Speaker 5: of these guys and how the first few weeks have gone,
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Speaker 5: I just kind of sat there internally smirking, like, God,
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Speaker 5: you're full of shit.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you didn't say it. Why didn't you say it?
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to make anyone feel bad, and
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Speaker 5: I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. But like, I
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Speaker 5: like that I could, I could see straight through some
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Speaker 5: of these guys.
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Speaker 4: But you were also like Mollie's got an interesting perspective
15:58
Speaker 4: because she was a radio host. She's hosting this thing
16:01
Speaker 4: and you almost got back into work mode. Yeah maybe right,
16:04
Speaker 4: So she was able to take her seven or eight
16:07
Speaker 4: years of experience in radio. There was two other radio
16:09
Speaker 4: hosts there, so they were in this position where it
16:11
Speaker 4: was very normal, and these guys won.
16:14
Speaker 3: They think they're on the radio show, right.
16:15
Speaker 4: Which is so they may they may be saying stuff
16:18
Speaker 4: outside of TV. They think they're live on the air
16:20
Speaker 4: in Seattle are going to be live on the airon
16:22
Speaker 4: Seattle and they have no idea what's going on. So
16:24
Speaker 4: it was almost unfit. Like it was three radio hosts against.
16:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
16:28
Speaker 3: They're losing.
16:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your role in that? Jason? Like, you're
16:32
Speaker 2: obviously worried there was three radio hosts in you?
16:35
Speaker 4: Oh, you have no like like there was a like,
16:38
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you have to re record something and
16:40
Speaker 4: they don't like. So they had asked me to say
16:42
Speaker 4: something to all the guys in there and about who
16:45
Speaker 4: I'm picking and all this stuff, and we shoot it
16:47
Speaker 4: and I'm like, fucking nail that shit, right, I'm super pumped.
16:50
Speaker 4: And they're like, hey, would it be easier if you
16:53
Speaker 4: do it again? Or Molly just says it.
16:56
Speaker 3: I was like, I know my role, Litz ever her
16:59
Speaker 3: do it.
17:01
Speaker 5: You did a good job of talking, like normally I
17:04
Speaker 5: kind of take over and hijack interviews and all of that.
17:07
Speaker 5: Good job getting some words in.
17:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to say five words total in five hours.
17:13
Speaker 2: Would it be easier for Molly just to do or
17:14
Speaker 2: do you want to try that again? Jason, You're the best. Okay, Well,
17:19
Speaker 2: obviously the viewership is going to watch this date and
17:23
Speaker 2: see that the big storyline is Sam. Right, these other
17:26
Speaker 2: guys they did their thing, they played along, they answered
17:29
Speaker 2: the questions. Like you said, it was an awkward environment
17:32
Speaker 2: because you are asking all of them to express their
17:34
Speaker 2: feelings towards Jin in front of each other, which I
17:36
Speaker 2: think is so unhealthy on this show and something you
17:38
Speaker 2: try to never do. But you two hosted a date
17:41
Speaker 2: that set them up for that. But Sam, is there
17:44
Speaker 2: really the storyline that comes out of this? So when
17:47
Speaker 2: it comes to Sam, did you feel like, as you
17:51
Speaker 2: were hosts of the show that it was an accurate
17:54
Speaker 2: portrayal watching the episode back of how he was or
18:00
Speaker 2: was it an inaccurate portrayal and editing really caused this
18:04
Speaker 2: whole thing to go a mess.
18:06
Speaker 5: I think it was entirely accurate. There was so much
18:10
Speaker 5: more that people didn't even see. Sam. Devin said it perfectly.
18:17
Speaker 5: There's Sam says so many words, and he talks so much,
18:22
Speaker 5: but it says if nothing's coming out of his mouth,
18:24
Speaker 5: like he just rambles and rambles and rambles, and there
18:26
Speaker 5: was no meat to what he was saying and he
18:28
Speaker 5: couldn't really get his thoughts out. What I will say
18:32
Speaker 5: is like we're not going to sit here in bash Sam,
18:34
Speaker 5: like he's getting a really bad edit this season. I
18:38
Speaker 5: think this show in this environment either makes someone flourish
18:42
Speaker 5: or it makes them flounder. And I think he is
18:45
Speaker 5: maybe someone who this environment isn't good for him. I
18:48
Speaker 5: think he was more maybe wrapped up in the competition
18:51
Speaker 5: aspect of it and winning and wasn't really like allowing
18:56
Speaker 5: himself to feel.
18:57
Speaker 4: I disagree a little bit, meaning like I think the
19:01
Speaker 4: competition part of Sam for sure, And but I think
19:03
Speaker 4: she was she loved Like we sat there and filmed
19:07
Speaker 4: for hours.
19:08
Speaker 3: One of those hours was just.
19:09
Speaker 4: At one point it was just Molly and I, Jen
19:12
Speaker 4: and Sam in the room and they were talking, they
19:14
Speaker 4: were playing games.
19:15
Speaker 3: They like the kiss that they showed was like fifteen seconds.
19:20
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's super awkward to be in that room.
19:23
Speaker 2: Like she was so she.
19:24
Speaker 3: Is so attracted to him. She was, and I think, yes,
19:29
Speaker 3: said the attraction piece of Sam.
19:30
Speaker 4: Yes, Sam's like this former athlete. There were things that
19:33
Speaker 4: Sam said that like they had to edit out.
19:35
Speaker 3: They were so terrible. We can't even talk about that.
19:37
Speaker 4: But I will say, like I think and I can't
19:40
Speaker 4: figure out what happened because I would like if I
19:43
Speaker 4: didn't expect Sam to win, but I expected Sam to
19:45
Speaker 4: get a hometown date for sure. Something else must have happened,
19:48
Speaker 4: And I know there's the production aspect, like they may
19:51
Speaker 4: have told her. Let me give you example, they may
19:53
Speaker 4: have told her about something that really set her off.
19:57
Speaker 4: And I'll give you one example that happened to me.
19:59
Speaker 4: I remember I was on a date back in Black
20:02
Speaker 4: and White TV with a girl who was on the show,
20:04
Speaker 4: and I was They initially said, hey, we need you
20:08
Speaker 4: to go on a date with somebody that you know
20:09
Speaker 4: you're going to send home later that day.
20:11
Speaker 3: So that was the plan, and I was like, Okay,
20:13
Speaker 3: this sucks. This is how the show works.
20:15
Speaker 4: So I go on the date and halfway through the date,
20:16
Speaker 4: I'm like I really like it, Like she's awesome, and
20:19
Speaker 4: they're like, hey, mesnik, she's a full time smoker. What
20:22
Speaker 4: do you think now, right? So they knew that I
20:25
Speaker 4: had a kid, and like in like, you got in
20:27
Speaker 4: my head and I'm not picking somebody who smokes full time.
20:29
Speaker 3: That's not my thing.
20:30
Speaker 4: So they got into my head and they knew that
20:32
Speaker 4: I was going to send her home because of that comment.
20:34
Speaker 3: I feel like.
20:35
Speaker 4: There's something that was said that set her off because
20:37
Speaker 4: she was so in like before she walked in, when
20:39
Speaker 4: Sam was before all the guys walked in, it was
20:41
Speaker 4: like Sam Sam Sam, Sam helped me get to know
20:44
Speaker 4: these other guys better. But by the way Sam Sam
20:47
Speaker 4: Sam Sam.
20:47
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's more something happened that she doesn't
20:50
Speaker 5: give her anything. It doesn't say she asked him multiple times,
20:53
Speaker 5: but why do you like me? But why do you
20:55
Speaker 5: think you're in love with me? Why do you think
20:56
Speaker 5: we're compoued? And he gives just words but there's nothing.
21:00
Speaker 4: But I know, but that whole thing to me is
21:02
Speaker 4: like everybody's saying that, And if everybody's saying that, that's
21:05
Speaker 4: coming from somewhere, you're saying that because they were show
21:08
Speaker 4: on the show last night.
21:09
Speaker 5: Also, but I felt that when we were filmy, we're
21:11
Speaker 5: having an argument on this podcast right now.
21:13
Speaker 2: No, this is good.
21:14
Speaker 5: This we were when we were filming, the two of
21:17
Speaker 5: them had a Loane time and we were in there
21:19
Speaker 5: with him. We had ear pieces in and Sam. They
21:23
Speaker 5: would ask each other a question. Sam was rambling on
21:25
Speaker 5: for so long. They'd be like, Molly, cut him off
21:28
Speaker 5: and ask another question, tell him to stop talking and
21:30
Speaker 5: ask another question. He just kept going and going and
21:33
Speaker 5: going and going.
21:34
Speaker 4: Well, that can be also nerves. And again I don't
21:36
Speaker 4: think Sam's near Again. I want to like, he's not
21:39
Speaker 4: nearly as bad as they're bay saying. He's got some stuff.
21:42
Speaker 4: I'm sure like, and I think what he wanted more
21:44
Speaker 4: than anything is like and maybe Jen's not the right person.
21:47
Speaker 4: He does want to be with somebody. He wants to
21:49
Speaker 4: get married. He wants that and he probably saw it
21:51
Speaker 4: right in front of him and it.
21:53
Speaker 3: Just wasn't working out for him.
21:54
Speaker 5: Well, he's foot in mouth moments where he's like I
21:58
Speaker 5: thought it was going to be Daisy or Maria.
22:00
Speaker 2: A point I was going to bring up where it's like, Okay,
22:02
Speaker 2: no matter what we say about Sam, I'm not here
22:04
Speaker 2: to bash him. But like, there are some things that
22:06
Speaker 2: he was saying that you're like, hey, that's there's just
22:10
Speaker 2: no way to get around what that you just said
22:12
Speaker 2: that he thought it was.
22:13
Speaker 4: And I will say, like, there are things that didn't
22:14
Speaker 4: make it on the air that will never ever be
22:17
Speaker 4: said by anybody.
22:18
Speaker 3: No, It's like that was a.
22:19
Speaker 5: Moment where I was just like, oh my god, I
22:21
Speaker 5: can't believe you just said that.
22:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it cannot make Jin feel good. And
22:26
Speaker 2: so the timeline is this you're saying that Jen came
22:29
Speaker 2: in and it's Sam Sam Sam Sam is somebody your
22:33
Speaker 2: two are going to look out for. And then was
22:35
Speaker 2: there a moment during this because we're watching it as
22:38
Speaker 2: viewers and we're going, this is getting awkward. There are
22:41
Speaker 2: things that he's saying that if you know we were dating,
22:43
Speaker 2: you know, I would definitely been thrown off by or
22:45
Speaker 2: had a thousand questions to dig into, or just maybe
22:48
Speaker 2: said hey, this isn't working, like just got up and
22:50
Speaker 2: walked away. Was there a moment during your date where
22:54
Speaker 2: you felt like she realized this is maybe not the
22:58
Speaker 2: guy that I thought he was.
23:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw it. I saw it when she's when
23:03
Speaker 5: they were having their alone time and he's talking and
23:05
Speaker 5: she finally is like but why, but why do you
23:09
Speaker 5: think it's me? That's where I was like, she's gone
23:11
Speaker 5: to him.
23:13
Speaker 4: I again, like I know that that happened, But that's
23:15
Speaker 4: coming straight from a producer, Like I went through this
23:17
Speaker 4: with you on the show specifically, I had problems with
23:20
Speaker 4: you not opening up, and the producers are like.
23:23
Speaker 2: This is why I want to get it.
23:24
Speaker 4: Can't continue until she opens up because you were introverted.
23:28
Speaker 4: Yeah right, And there's something about Sam like and again
23:31
Speaker 4: I get it, like he's not the right guy for her,
23:33
Speaker 4: But those questions specifically are coming from somewhere else.
23:37
Speaker 3: Maybe Okay, she don't like my perspective.
23:41
Speaker 2: I think these are great perspectives. This is why the
23:45
Speaker 2: two of you thrived during your time podcast hosting together.
23:59
Speaker 2: So the light ball went off. I do say there
24:02
Speaker 2: is a personality trait that I always watch out for
24:06
Speaker 2: every season. Anybody listens to this podcast knows what it is.
24:09
Speaker 2: It's my biggest pet peeve in life. It's somebody that
24:12
Speaker 2: describes themselves by, for example, by saying you're a selfless person.
24:18
Speaker 2: I also am a selfless person. I just don't think
24:22
Speaker 2: we as humans have the ability to actually describe ourselves
24:27
Speaker 2: in that way. I think we need to leave that
24:29
Speaker 2: up to somebody else to say, Hey, you know, you're
24:31
Speaker 2: a very selfless person. You say thank you, Jason, same
24:35
Speaker 2: to you, same to you, Molly. So you guys can
24:37
Speaker 2: take that you're the goat Molly that you shouldn't hear that,
24:39
Speaker 2: know that, And so that always feels like during the show,
24:43
Speaker 2: and the reason it bothers me is because it always
24:45
Speaker 2: does feel like it comes up in very important moments,
24:49
Speaker 2: and it does make the conversation more focused on myself
24:53
Speaker 2: than it does the other person. And that's really outside
24:57
Speaker 2: of everything else with the you know, without doubling down
25:00
Speaker 2: on Sam, what really felt like to me as a
25:03
Speaker 2: viewer was most bothersome about this moment and your date
25:06
Speaker 2: was that everything did come back to himself at some level.
25:10
Speaker 2: It was never a curiosity or an intention of getting
25:14
Speaker 2: knowing Jin better. It was more of I need to
25:16
Speaker 2: get the words in about myself in this moment. Did
25:19
Speaker 2: you guys feel that way when you're hosting it?
25:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's a really good point, Like you're like, hey,
25:24
Speaker 4: I'm really trustworthy and I'm honest person.
25:27
Speaker 3: Well just be that way, don't you even't have to.
25:28
Speaker 2: Say it right?
25:29
Speaker 3: That's a bit. I mean, that's actually a really a
25:31
Speaker 3: good point. Yeah, I mean I think that's showed through well.
25:35
Speaker 2: The Sam Jin kind of fiasco is coming to a
25:41
Speaker 2: head during your date. But then we obviously have another
25:43
Speaker 2: one on one date to get to before we go
25:45
Speaker 2: back to Sam and Jen. As we finish out this
25:47
Speaker 2: episode of the podcast, we have a one on one
25:49
Speaker 2: date with Jeremy. Jeremy is somebody that we really haven't
25:52
Speaker 2: heard much about, we don't know much about, and I
25:55
Speaker 2: really thought, quite frankly, that he was going home this episode.
25:58
Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be a one on
25:59
Speaker 2: one date. He's gone, what changed for you know, for
26:02
Speaker 2: the two of you during this date to where you go, well, okay,
26:06
Speaker 2: he actually is going to stick around.
26:08
Speaker 5: Yeah. I don't know if I had that moment because
26:12
Speaker 5: I too was like, well, we haven't seen him at all,
26:14
Speaker 5: so they're setting him up to be the guy that
26:15
Speaker 5: gets sent home on a one on one date, like
26:17
Speaker 5: that's why he's getting it. I don't even know if
26:20
Speaker 5: there was a moment for me. I was like, we
26:22
Speaker 5: don't know anything about this guy. They're not really talking
26:24
Speaker 5: about anything, or they're not showing them talking about anything important,
26:27
Speaker 5: so like, I don't even know, that's a good question.
26:29
Speaker 5: It was almost like when he was talking about his mom,
26:32
Speaker 5: do you.
26:32
Speaker 3: Remember, like and maybe I'm making this up. I thought.
26:35
Speaker 4: I remember her saying like, I'm pretty sure I knew
26:37
Speaker 4: who my three hometown kind of date, like she was
26:38
Speaker 4: kind of getting to the point where she knew who
26:40
Speaker 4: their three were for the hometown dates, but she didn't
26:42
Speaker 4: know her fourth when we saw her. Yes, I like,
26:46
Speaker 4: I have this memory of like some kind of conversation
26:48
Speaker 4: around there, and maybe it was just like I don't
26:52
Speaker 4: know who my fourth is, so like, and he really
26:54
Speaker 4: earned that during the date, maybe because I do. I like,
26:57
Speaker 4: I remember that from for my season. I'm like, i'
26:59
Speaker 4: pretty sure I know him three, but I don't know
27:00
Speaker 4: who the fourth is. I got to really dig into
27:02
Speaker 4: this one.
27:03
Speaker 2: I don't know, I would agree. I think that is
27:06
Speaker 2: probably common that you're like, hey, i've got it solid
27:08
Speaker 2: top three, but the fourth is kind of you know,
27:11
Speaker 2: out there. However, Grant seemed to be far in a
27:15
Speaker 2: way above Jeremy up until this week. In every episode,
27:18
Speaker 2: there was never a chance where he was not going
27:20
Speaker 2: to make the final four. And I think most people's opinions, yeah,
27:23
Speaker 2: that was such.
27:24
Speaker 5: A good shocking to us. We loved him when we
27:26
Speaker 5: met him, and Riley, that is Riley's favorite. She's like,
27:30
Speaker 5: if Grant's the Bachelor, I'm going on it.
27:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, eleven year olds on it.
27:34
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:36
Speaker 3: And then he was funny.
27:40
Speaker 2: I just don't know what happened there because he was
27:42
Speaker 2: such a favorite. They had such a good connection. He
27:44
Speaker 2: obviously opens up. Last week, he has a really sweet
27:46
Speaker 2: moment with Marcus where he's like, dude, I'm sorry, I
27:49
Speaker 2: have to tell you this. I just don't know have
27:50
Speaker 2: anybody else to talk to, but like, I'm in love
27:51
Speaker 2: with this girl, and Marcus like, hey, it's all good,
27:54
Speaker 2: I got your back. Won't tell anybody, it's all It's
27:56
Speaker 2: all fine. And then he's gone this week and we
27:59
Speaker 2: don't really have a for it other than the fact
28:01
Speaker 2: that Jeremy does kind of sneak in with this unexpected rose. Now,
28:05
Speaker 2: their date was not not great. It was good. It
28:08
Speaker 2: was a good date. They had a lot of really
28:09
Speaker 2: tough conversations about you know, their their fath systems, their
28:13
Speaker 2: faith traditions, where they come up in life, what they
28:15
Speaker 2: desire for a family, how they navigate that together. Those
28:19
Speaker 2: are very important conversations when you're looking to spend your
28:21
Speaker 2: life with somebody. But still, I didn't feel like that
28:27
Speaker 2: date pushed him to that place where I would be
28:29
Speaker 2: seeing him next week.
28:30
Speaker 4: But you know, can I tell you, like by watching
28:32
Speaker 4: your first episode way midway through this season, Yeah, he
28:36
Speaker 4: was great. He didn't surprise me at all. I think
28:39
Speaker 4: he deserved to be there and we'll see what happened.
28:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's he's a runner. He's my favorite.
28:44
Speaker 3: He's my favorite now.
28:46
Speaker 2: It's actually an interesting perspective. Yeah, without any like backstory
28:51
Speaker 2: or watching this season that you know, you come in
28:54
Speaker 2: you're like, No, that guy's great.
28:55
Speaker 3: Yes, I see what didn't show up on her date.
28:57
Speaker 3: He's my favorite now.
29:00
Speaker 2: So you know, Jeremy does get the road, so that
29:02
Speaker 2: means two people have the rows at this point, Marcus
29:04
Speaker 2: and Jeremy. And we're getting to the end of this
29:06
Speaker 2: episode where we see Jin come back into the hotel
29:10
Speaker 2: that all the guys are staying pretty fired up. And
29:14
Speaker 2: the confusion for me in this scene and in this
29:17
Speaker 2: moment for Jin is I actually don't know why she's
29:19
Speaker 2: fired up. Yes, it didn't feel like her and Sam
29:24
Speaker 2: were connecting. Yes, it felt like the date that you
29:26
Speaker 2: two hosted with Sam. It did feel like they were
29:29
Speaker 2: on a communication miss most of the time. But it
29:33
Speaker 2: does feel like to me when she comes back into
29:35
Speaker 2: the room to find Sam, or back into the hotel
29:38
Speaker 2: to find Sam, that like there's this like fire inside
29:40
Speaker 2: of her. Do do you have any idea on where
29:44
Speaker 2: that would be coming from, because for me, it feels
29:46
Speaker 2: like it should have just been one of those moments
29:48
Speaker 2: where she's like, I'm just confused. Sam. We got to talk,
29:51
Speaker 2: but it feels like she's on a mission for something.
29:55
Speaker 3: That's what I said.
29:55
Speaker 5: That's a producer in our carpent in her.
29:57
Speaker 4: Ear only because I've been there before and you don't
30:00
Speaker 4: realize what's happening at the time.
30:02
Speaker 3: And I could be totally wrong.
30:04
Speaker 4: I mean we got produced again and like we've been
30:06
Speaker 4: to this man.
30:09
Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
30:10
Speaker 4: Like there's something like I just don't we're not privy
30:14
Speaker 4: to those conversations because like there's no way like she
30:16
Speaker 4: went from like he's my number one I'm not saying
30:20
Speaker 4: he was his number one, but like number one attraction,
30:23
Speaker 4: like she can't get him physically to like being ousted
30:26
Speaker 4: and mad at him that quickly.
30:28
Speaker 3: I don't know.
30:28
Speaker 5: It did seem a little like jarring, like whoa, you're
30:31
Speaker 5: mad about something?
30:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I thought she was gonna go and be like, hey, Sam,
30:35
Speaker 2: you have a girlfriend back home, Like I thought, that's
30:37
Speaker 2: what it felt like to me, where like this was
30:39
Speaker 2: leading up to big revelation, but it wasn't. The two
30:41
Speaker 2: of them just had to talk.
30:44
Speaker 4: Remember, like she like storms out of there and she
30:46
Speaker 4: needs to cool off, and I'm like, WHOA, Like this
30:48
Speaker 4: escalated quickly.
30:50
Speaker 2: Something changed, and you have to be right. Somebody got
30:53
Speaker 2: in her ear. But it's not like they were getting
30:55
Speaker 2: in her ear and telling her something that wasn't probably true.
30:58
Speaker 2: They were just for sure bringing to light stuff that
31:01
Speaker 2: she was not able to see up until this point.
31:04
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they told her what he said. Oh god, stop,
31:11
Speaker 4: I know we'll never say it.
31:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just this mystery. I read it. I'm
31:15
Speaker 2: sure if you go on read it in a couple
31:16
Speaker 2: days they'll find out what happened. No, they're really good
31:19
Speaker 2: at it. Okay, So she comes back out of the room,
31:23
Speaker 2: she has to cool off. To summarize that whole long
31:26
Speaker 2: back and forth, it's just more of what was existing
31:28
Speaker 2: during your date. It's just the two of them. Well
31:31
Speaker 2: mostly he's just talking past her. None of it's connecting.
31:35
Speaker 2: Even when, like you, you're like, hey, she's teeming you
31:37
Speaker 2: up for a very easy answer. The response was missing.
31:42
Speaker 2: And I am going to go back to what Jason
31:44
Speaker 2: said earlier because I do think this is true, and
31:46
Speaker 2: I feel for any person in this scenario, good not
31:49
Speaker 2: the right environment for him. We're not going to double
31:52
Speaker 2: down on him and all the stuff that's gone on
31:53
Speaker 2: all season for him already. I feel like in this moment,
31:56
Speaker 2: what we really saw was that this dude is so
31:58
Speaker 2: insanely nervous, probably coming based on some way he feels
32:04
Speaker 2: about himself, because once the camera's on him, and once
32:07
Speaker 2: the attention is on him, and once he's getting pushed
32:09
Speaker 2: a little bit, like he has that catch in his throat,
32:12
Speaker 2: he can't even speak.
32:13
Speaker 4: That nervous cats. There's something ner he was super nervous about.
32:16
Speaker 4: I mean, it's either allergies or nerves.
32:17
Speaker 2: Ye, allergies their nerves. I would mean it could be both,
32:24
Speaker 2: but it did feel like to me when I watched this,
32:27
Speaker 2: this dude pushed, felt pushed up against the wall that
32:29
Speaker 2: he couldn't get out of. He didn't know how to
32:31
Speaker 2: answer anything well, he wasn't getting anywhere good. His smooth
32:36
Speaker 2: talking had kind of come to an end, so that
32:39
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna work, and he got very nervous, and it
32:43
Speaker 2: felt like that's what caused the massive disconnect to where
32:45
Speaker 2: he's ended up going home because he had no way out,
32:48
Speaker 2: like there was no good path for him for.
32:52
Speaker 4: I was still shock like, I like if he was
32:53
Speaker 4: sitting there, wouldn't you have said one hundred percent he
32:55
Speaker 4: gets to him down date.
32:56
Speaker 5: I thought.
32:58
Speaker 2: That's such a that's a very interesting perspect because you
33:00
Speaker 2: two were with him that week, when you even left
33:03
Speaker 2: that date, even after the fiasca that happened, and even
33:06
Speaker 2: after their kind of conversation, you two still felt like
33:09
Speaker 2: there's no chance he doesn't still get a hometown.
33:11
Speaker 3: I felt one.
33:11
Speaker 5: Hundred percent, Suy, Yeah, I thought he'd get a hometown.
33:13
Speaker 4: I mean, like I didn't know beyond that because obviously
33:15
Speaker 4: things went out, but like I was like, hands down,
33:18
Speaker 4: like sitting in that room, I didn't know anybody else
33:21
Speaker 4: Marcus's story. I knew she had a good date the
33:23
Speaker 4: day before and she told us that, right, we didn't
33:26
Speaker 4: know any of that. But sitting there with the guys
33:29
Speaker 4: that we knew, like Grant, Sam, Jonathan and then Spencer
33:37
Speaker 4: and Spencer Yah yeah, I mean and Spencer to me,
33:41
Speaker 4: like I just remember going, like the guys when I
33:43
Speaker 4: was on the Bachelor, there's guys that made it to
33:45
Speaker 4: the final six or seven that didn't even know the
33:47
Speaker 4: bat know her, so like it didn't surprise me that
33:50
Speaker 4: there were people that weren't that close.
33:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and he felt like so Spencer, who ends
33:55
Speaker 2: up going home at the end of this episode along
33:57
Speaker 2: with Grant, which was a shock to all of us. Here. Spencer,
34:01
Speaker 2: to you during your day, you felt like he's the
34:03
Speaker 2: one that probably is on the outside looking in. It's
34:06
Speaker 2: pretty clear, but like kind.
34:07
Speaker 5: Of middle of the road. He didn't stand out. They didn't,
34:10
Speaker 5: he didn't talk a ton, and then watching the season,
34:12
Speaker 5: he's non existent.
34:13
Speaker 4: I mean, it only stuck out the two people that
34:16
Speaker 4: stuck out to me where she wanted to ask. She
34:18
Speaker 4: wanted us to dig into Sam and then she's like, Okay,
34:21
Speaker 4: there's this guy Devin who looks like Pete Davidson, and like,
34:25
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's just funny or if I
34:26
Speaker 4: need to find out more, but can you dig into
34:28
Speaker 4: him because he seems just like the funny guy.
34:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so Spencer was on the outside looking in,
34:34
Speaker 2: which makes sense because Spencer is going home along with Grant.
34:38
Speaker 2: Final thing I want to talk to you guys about
34:40
Speaker 2: before we kind of go in predictions for the rest
34:42
Speaker 2: of the season. Spencer's last scene, as he says goodbye,
34:46
Speaker 2: he calls his mom. His mom is his mom is
34:48
Speaker 2: obviously very sweet, she obviously calls him baby. I think
34:51
Speaker 2: we've made that perfectly clear, which is fine. Moms can
34:55
Speaker 2: do what they do, what they want, how they want
34:58
Speaker 2: to do it. Outside of you know that conversation. Am
35:03
Speaker 2: I wrong? You guys have been around the show for
35:05
Speaker 2: a while now. In saying yes, I do think Marcus
35:08
Speaker 2: is like teed up to be the next lead. It
35:11
Speaker 2: felt like the show was trying to make Spencer that guy.
35:16
Speaker 5: They were trying to do something by showing that for sure,
35:18
Speaker 5: Like when I was like, they've never done this, This
35:20
Speaker 5: is weird. Why are they showing this? They're setting him
35:23
Speaker 5: up for something. But how could they set him up
35:26
Speaker 5: to be the bachelor now when they've been able to
35:28
Speaker 5: edit everything and he's hardly in the show.
35:30
Speaker 2: They know that they need backups, Yeah, they do need backups.
35:34
Speaker 4: They know that the first person might not accept and
35:36
Speaker 4: so on, and so far we didn't even talk about
35:38
Speaker 4: all the girls coming to our house.
35:40
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's a whole different in Town trista charity,
35:43
Speaker 5: they all came for dinner. They all came over.
35:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, but not on the show.
35:48
Speaker 5: No, no, no, they were in town filming the day before. Yeah,
35:52
Speaker 5: so we're like, why don't you girls all come over?
35:53
Speaker 5: So we had a rager at the Mesnik house with
35:55
Speaker 5: all a girl.
35:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they were really tired the day they filmed.
35:58
Speaker 2: Yeah was it fun?
36:01
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, we had a blast. We had so much
36:03
Speaker 5: fun I had. I would have to catch myself every
36:05
Speaker 5: once in a while and be like, oh my gosh,
36:07
Speaker 5: I'm like twenty years older than these girls.
36:09
Speaker 2: So who was all there? Who were the girls that
36:12
Speaker 2: actually came over?
36:13
Speaker 5: Trista Not Trista obviously Trista, Charity, Daisy and Kelsey and.
36:18
Speaker 3: Riley had gotten into the season before, so Riley.
36:20
Speaker 5: Was super excited for Fine, like these girls on TV
36:24
Speaker 5: and now they're in my house.
36:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mom and dad, you're so cool. Ye wait, why
36:30
Speaker 2: am I missing something? Where Daisy and Kelsey they weren't
36:34
Speaker 2: on this episode? Were they?
36:35
Speaker 3: Yeah? They were the Wicked date.
36:37
Speaker 2: Oh geez goodness. Yeah, that feels like such a small
36:41
Speaker 2: like early part of the episode. Okay, you're right, one
36:43
Speaker 2: hundred percent.
36:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was super cool because we obviously know Trista
36:46
Speaker 4: really well, but to get they could know some of
36:47
Speaker 4: the younger girls like they were super cool.
36:50
Speaker 2: Well, they're they're and it's fun to see kind of
36:52
Speaker 2: this next generation because they are they're they're very similar
36:56
Speaker 2: to how we all were coming off the show. They're
36:58
Speaker 2: excited it's new, but they're just great hangs. Like they're
37:03
Speaker 2: a lot of fun to hang out with. So that's
37:05
Speaker 2: that's special. And here's what's really cool. It probably meant
37:09
Speaker 2: a lot to them like that you guys had them
37:11
Speaker 2: over like this means a lot to those contestants because
37:15
Speaker 2: you don't get those like really fun, non like event
37:18
Speaker 2: moments where it's just like, let's just go have fun
37:20
Speaker 2: at a house.
37:21
Speaker 5: Yeah. Actually, Daisy, who had reached out before after following
37:27
Speaker 5: just being so grateful. She's like, that was so much fun.
37:30
Speaker 5: Thank you so much for welcoming us into your home.
37:33
Speaker 5: We love getting to night like she she is as
37:35
Speaker 5: sweet as it gets with charity.
37:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god.
37:41
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. I don't think anybody shocked that Daisy's sweet.
37:44
Speaker 2: Her name is Daisy, so it'd be hard not to.
37:46
Speaker 6: You have to be nice.
37:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, to go back to the Spencer thing, I kind
37:50
Speaker 2: of they need backups and it wouldn't be shocking for
37:53
Speaker 2: the show is confusing. It is as it is to
37:56
Speaker 2: pick a lead who hasn't been shown a lot Clayton,
37:59
Speaker 2: Zach come to mind. Yeahigs Jen, Like they have picked
38:04
Speaker 2: people who kind of fly under the radarter in their
38:07
Speaker 2: season and they kind of try to launch them up
38:09
Speaker 2: to be the lead. I don't think it's a great strategy,
38:11
Speaker 2: but it is what has happened here as of recently. Okay,
38:17
Speaker 2: so Ashley's not with us today, obviously, she's momming it
38:20
Speaker 2: somewhere well actually nowhere in Rhode Island. They just went
38:24
Speaker 2: back to their home and we do this every week
38:28
Speaker 2: at the end of this episode when we record Top three.
38:32
Speaker 2: Now it's only four people left. But who are your
38:34
Speaker 2: Top three? Now? Moving into the final few weeks in
38:37
Speaker 2: order from favorite to third.
38:41
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna say favorite, Marcus Jonathan, me too, Devin,
38:50
Speaker 5: and then Jeremy. I just I don't see it with
38:52
Speaker 5: Jeremy because we don't really know him.
38:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Marcus Jonathan for sure. And then I
39:00
Speaker 4: want Grant to come back.
39:03
Speaker 3: Riley and I love Grant. I want Grant like some
39:05
Speaker 3: people come back once in a while.
39:07
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm surprised Jeremy's not Jason's number one. He said
39:09
Speaker 2: he watched one episode, was like I think this is
39:11
Speaker 2: the guy.
39:13
Speaker 1: Like.
39:14
Speaker 3: Did you were saying only goes so far, but like,
39:19
Speaker 3: well that's you.
39:20
Speaker 2: Guys have the exact same top three as me. I
39:22
Speaker 2: do think Jeremy's on the outside looking in, so I
39:24
Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked. I would be shocked if anybody but Devin,
39:29
Speaker 2: Marcus and Jonathan move on then to the Fantasy Suite week.
39:34
Speaker 2: Jen has been fantastic. She's a great lead, she's carrying
39:38
Speaker 2: the show. Well. She's been a fun watch and we
39:40
Speaker 2: continue to to want to watch her. Jason and Molly,
39:43
Speaker 2: thank you for coming on the show. It means a
39:46
Speaker 2: lot that you spent this much time and that you
39:48
Speaker 2: hosted an episode. It's always fun to catch up with
39:50
Speaker 2: the two of you, and we really really hope to
39:53
Speaker 2: see you back here soon. Hopefully when they come back
39:56
Speaker 2: to Seattle, you can host another day.
39:58
Speaker 3: I know, here's some advice.
39:59
Speaker 4: When you have jenn On, and I know you will
40:00
Speaker 4: at some point, she'll want to take a shot with you.
40:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, shot a clock, likes it.
40:06
Speaker 2: What what's the what's the liquor of choice?
40:08
Speaker 3: Well?
40:08
Speaker 5: None, I hate taking shots for her.
40:11
Speaker 3: It's called alcohol.
40:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jen had tequila.
40:16
Speaker 2: Solid, solid move. I love it. Shot a clock, it's
40:21
Speaker 2: shot a clock here. It's almost Famous podcast Until next time.
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