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August 18, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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  Speaker 1: All Right, We're going to go out to the plai's
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  Speaker 1: fund Center phone line and visit with Kurt Bodenhausen of Sportico.
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  Speaker 1: Kurt has been our go to guy for years and
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  Speaker 1: years when it comes to the business of sports. Kurt,
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  Speaker 1: before I start talking about general things, what in the
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  Speaker 1: world has happened to the value of these sports franchises
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years. It seems like they've gone crazy.
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  Speaker 5: I bet chip last week was one of the craziest
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  Speaker 5: weeks of sports business stories I can ever remember. Starting
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  Speaker 5: the Lakers thing yep again Top top top five most
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  Speaker 5: stunning business story since I've been doing this over the
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  Speaker 5: last thirty years. But think about last week. You had
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  Speaker 5: Apollo invest two point six billion dollars into the New
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  Speaker 5: York Yankees. We came out with our NFL valuations that
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  Speaker 5: had the average team up three point thirty one percent
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  Speaker 5: to nine point three four billion dollars. Cowboys on top.
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  Speaker 5: Fifteen point five hours later, Ramona Shellburn great scoop which
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  Speaker 5: we almost had at Sportico, but she beat us to it,
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  Speaker 5: twelve point five billion dollars for the Lakers. And then
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  Speaker 5: Friday we get just you know, regular story, Jeff Bezos
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  Speaker 5: part of the consortium investing in Liverpool at a seven
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  Speaker 5: plus billion dollar valuation. Like this is like a crazy
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  Speaker 5: collection of individual investors, gigantic financial firms investing and buying
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  Speaker 5: outright some of the biggest sports assets on the planet.
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  Speaker 5: What just a wild week? And what.
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  Speaker 1: Has driven the market? What has made these franchises so
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  Speaker 1: much more valuable?
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  Speaker 5: That's a good question. There's a few things going on here.
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  Speaker 5: One is the introduction of private equity, so that that
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  Speaker 5: has helped things on the margin. A big part of
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  Speaker 5: this is you have had a massive wealth creation over
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  Speaker 5: the last fifteen years. If you look at the number
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  Speaker 5: of global billionaires, including mega mega billionaires, people with twenty
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  Speaker 5: thirty two hundred billion dollars that you know, but fifteen
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  Speaker 5: years ago that group was you know, Warn Buffett and
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  Speaker 5: Bill Gates. Yeah, just those two by themselves. But you
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  Speaker 5: have a whole new crop of people that have generated
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  Speaker 5: fabulous wealth as well as a group of people that
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  Speaker 5: have generated like a decent amount of wealth like fire
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  Speaker 5: five hundred million, eight hundred million. They can't invest, they
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  Speaker 5: can't buy an NFL team in or put or buy
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  Speaker 5: an NBA team, but they have you know, they want
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  Speaker 5: to invest one hundred and fifty million dollars into their
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  Speaker 5: local NFL team or something so that they can The
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  Speaker 5: new model in the NFL. I think you will see
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  Speaker 5: moving forward is even with even if it's the megawealth
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  Speaker 5: that's been created, you will see consortiums of people buying teams,
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  Speaker 5: like with the Washington Commanders, with Josh Harris, like likely
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  Speaker 5: is what is happy in Seattle. And there's a few
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  Speaker 5: things going on here. People recognizing that this is the
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  Speaker 5: last place for people to advertise. Live TV is the
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  Speaker 5: only place left really for advertising dollars to be directed
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  Speaker 5: in the media or broadcast media. So that has helped
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  Speaker 5: suck up like basically so much of the money from TV,
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  Speaker 5: from ESPNS, the Foxes, CBS is. With the NFL and
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  Speaker 5: NBA sitting at the top of this catpertcy, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people look at us in as in anti AI
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  Speaker 5: play as AI just you know, wipes out so many
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  Speaker 5: basic industries. It's not going to wipe out sports.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, if you think about the turnover in
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  Speaker 5: companies these days, you know, the companies that are in
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  Speaker 5: the s and P five hundred, like, think through that
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  Speaker 5: list of companies, who's going to be around in twenty
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  Speaker 5: five years, either they're going to be put out of
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  Speaker 5: business or bought up by somebody else. And so I
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  Speaker 5: can tell you with near certainty the New York Yankees
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  Speaker 5: are going to be here in twenty five years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys are going to be here in twenty
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  Speaker 5: five years. So with everything happening in AI, people look
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  Speaker 5: at live entertainment as like one of the last bastions
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  Speaker 5: that can can use AI to help on the fringes
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  Speaker 5: of it. But it's still going to be around here
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  Speaker 5: and is not going to be wiped out. So and
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  Speaker 5: these these teams have become more profitable, I mean, excluding
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  Speaker 5: European soccer, which is still just all ready the teams money.
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  Speaker 5: But in the North American sports leagues have become more
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  Speaker 5: profitable as the collective bargaining agreements have become more owner friendly.
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  Speaker 5: So there's all a slew of things at play here
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  Speaker 5: that are driving valuations where teams sold. You know, in
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  Speaker 5: twenty ten, if you look back to all the NBA
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  Speaker 5: deals and went back then, did the Warrior sell for
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  Speaker 5: a record four hundred and fifty million dollars. Teams were
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  Speaker 5: selling for three times revenue. Now you're seeing the Lakers
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  Speaker 5: sell for twenty times revenue. So it's a it's a
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  Speaker 5: they're just they're being valued at dramatically higher prices.
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  Speaker 1: So you mentioned the Lakers deal and one of the
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  Speaker 1: five deals that you've seen in your career. What was
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  Speaker 1: what was the reaction when the figure came out that
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be like twelve and a half
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  Speaker 1: billion dollars.
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  Speaker 5: The figure there. Honestly, the figure surprised me less just
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  Speaker 5: than the actual Yeah, that it happened so quickly. I
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  Speaker 5: mean Mark Walter closed this deal last year in October
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  Speaker 5: to turn around and sell it. And obviously he's been
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  Speaker 5: in the news, yes, with the reporting that's over the
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  Speaker 5: last few months in terms of Guggenheim and some of
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  Speaker 5: the loans and how they were marked, and just this
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  Speaker 5: obviously indicated that there's more going on here because he's
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  Speaker 5: not the type of guy to just flip an asset
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  Speaker 5: like this to make a quick buck. That's that clearly
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  Speaker 5: was not the intention when they bought this team. So
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  Speaker 5: to be up twenty five percent over the last twelve months, oddslie,
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  Speaker 5: that's just what's happening in the marketplace. I mentioned our
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  Speaker 5: valuations in the NFL up thirty one percent. When we
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  Speaker 5: did our NBA valuations, they were up twenty percent last
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  Speaker 5: year on average, So twenty five percent higher over a year.
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  Speaker 5: That's kind of what the market's been doing. It's just
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  Speaker 5: it's it's just it's just wild the year over year
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  Speaker 5: growth that we've seen in these sports assets.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the NFL is still the beast in the group.
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  Speaker 1: According to your list, there's two baseball teams Yankees and Dodgers,
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  Speaker 1: and three NBA teams in the top thirty five sports values. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the rest are NFL.
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  Speaker 5: Right, The rest of the NFL. I mean, we looked
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  Speaker 5: at one of the most incredible things when we landed
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  Speaker 5: our final numbers. So we had the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: they've been last in all seven iterations of support of
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  Speaker 5: coos NFL valuations this year that meant seven point four
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  Speaker 5: billion dollars. The five teams you just mentioned and Real
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  Speaker 5: Madrid arguably the biggest brand sports team brand in the world,
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  Speaker 5: those are the only teams in the world worth more
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  Speaker 5: than the Bengals as far as we're concerned like that,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if you I mean, I'm Real Madrid fans,
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  Speaker 5: you know, would lose their mind the idea that or
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  Speaker 5: maybe more so Barcelona fans probably lose their mind the
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  Speaker 5: idea that the worst NFL team is worth more than
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  Speaker 5: a club like Barcelona with hundreds of millions of fans
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  Speaker 5: around the world. So it's the NFL is just operating
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  Speaker 5: on a totally different level. Yeah, like one hundred and
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  Speaker 5: twenty five billion dollars worth of TV contracts that again
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  Speaker 5: are going to get ripped up and redone because they
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  Speaker 5: don't pay out enough. As far as the where the
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  Speaker 5: NFL sits in the media landscape, terrific CBA, where owners
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  Speaker 5: are guaranteed to make money. Who teams last year received
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  Speaker 5: more than four hundred Each team got more than four
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  Speaker 5: hundred and fifty million dollars from the league office from
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  Speaker 5: those TV deals and the league sponsorship deals, and the
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  Speaker 5: cap was I can't remember the exact number, two eighty broke.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if seventy million dollars the benefits on top
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  Speaker 5: of that, you gotta pay. But I mean still you're
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  Speaker 5: you're guaranteed to make money in the NFL and those
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  Speaker 5: big market teams, you know, the Rams, the Eagles, the Patriots,
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  Speaker 5: they're all making two hundred million dollars and then they
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  Speaker 5: and then the Cowboys on a whole different level, making
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  Speaker 5: five hundred million dollars a year. So the Cowboys. There
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  Speaker 5: aren't a lot of sports teams where you could look
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  Speaker 5: at them at from a business standpoint and be like, okay, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 5: that makes sense in terms of the cash flow they
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  Speaker 5: kick off. Most teams are, you know, fifty one hundred,
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  Speaker 5: two hundred times they're cash flow, but the Cowboys are
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  Speaker 5: about thirty times cash flow. So that's a good business.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't appear that winning or losing has a
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  Speaker 1: lot of effect on the value of these franchises.
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  Speaker 5: Kurt, Well, you're bringing up the Cowboys there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at the Cowboys, I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: the Giants, I'm looking at the Jets, I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: the Dolphins. They're all in the top seven. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to matter.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And until this year, Knick fans would would point
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  Speaker 5: that out every year too, during their twenty year run
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  Speaker 5: when they were off until the Warriors rise, the Knicks
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  Speaker 5: were the most valuable NBA team for a couple decades
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  Speaker 5: and weren't exactly killing it on the court. The NFL,
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  Speaker 5: in particular, seventeen game season big market teams, it's you know,
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  Speaker 5: every year you sell hope. Yeah, this isn't baseball. You
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  Speaker 5: got to fill one hundred, you got to fill eighty
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  Speaker 5: one home games with a and all these teams are
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  Speaker 5: sold out. Almost all these teams are sold out every
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  Speaker 5: single game. Now, do they show up in December when
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  Speaker 5: the Jets are three and ten and playing.
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  Speaker 9: Out the.
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  Speaker 5: Just running out, running the course on the season. No,
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  Speaker 5: not necessarily, but those tickets are all sold already, and
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  Speaker 5: the sponsorships are all sold and the suites are all sold.
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  Speaker 5: So it's the NFL. Listen winning helps. And we've talked
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  Speaker 5: to Steven and Jerry Jones about this over the years
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  Speaker 5: and and they've said, you know, even though their local revenue,
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  Speaker 5: their local revenue seventy percent higher than the Rams who
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  Speaker 5: ranked second. And Stephen Jones once sold me he said,
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  Speaker 5: if we could, you know, figure it out and do
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  Speaker 5: it on the field and win a Super Bowl. He
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  Speaker 5: said that he thinks that bumps their local revenue fifty
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  Speaker 5: so they are leaving money on the table. It could
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  Speaker 5: be better. But from a valuation standpoint, the NFL is
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  Speaker 5: so unique because these assets rarely sold. I mean you
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  Speaker 5: bring up the Giants that have been owned by the
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  Speaker 5: Mara family for over one hundred years. The Tish family
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  Speaker 5: bought in back in I think nineteen May nineteen ninety,
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  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety one, but it's been the Mara family for
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  Speaker 5: over one hundred years. The Kraft families owned the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: We're going on forty something years. The average ownership tenure
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL is more than forty years. So if
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  Speaker 5: you want to buy an NFL team, particularly one in
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  Speaker 5: your local market, like you got one shot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And so if a team like the Giants came up
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  Speaker 5: for sale in the New York area. With all of
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  Speaker 5: the wealth in this area, you would have a bidding
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  Speaker 5: war breakout, and you would have prices just go through
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  Speaker 5: the roof. Even though they've been struggling on the field
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  Speaker 5: for most of the decade.
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  Speaker 1: It used to be that a new stadium would would
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  Speaker 1: affect drastically the cost of the franchise. I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo and they're up one spot from a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: Now there's been some negative things said about the new stadium,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm looking at Chicago and they're down three,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just that's just a wild guess that it's
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  Speaker 1: just all of the uncertainty surrounding a new stadium in Chicago.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, the stadium still plays a huge part. So
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  Speaker 5: Buffalo is only up one spot this year. But as
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  Speaker 5: this stadiums approved and financed and built, Buffalo has shot
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  Speaker 5: up from the very bottom of the list down there
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  Speaker 5: with Cincinnati in New Orleans, and so they've moved up
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  Speaker 5: significantly because of their They've moved up by handful of spots.
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  Speaker 5: Because of that, Chicago should be a top five franchise
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  Speaker 5: and will be if they ever figure out the stadium situation.
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  Speaker 5: Washington will be moving up the ranks as they their
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  Speaker 5: stadium comes to fruition, which is supposed to open in
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  Speaker 5: twenty thirty, so that that will totally change the financial
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  Speaker 5: profile of the Commanders. I mean they're also spending nearly
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  Speaker 5: four billion dollars to do it. But you only have
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  Speaker 5: to look at the Rams, who playing in Saint Louis
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  Speaker 5: was at the bottom quart tile of franchises. Moves to
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  Speaker 5: La built a five billion dollars stadium, now second highest
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  Speaker 5: most valuable team as far as we're concerned, behind the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 5: So new stadium makes a big difference, still makes a
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  Speaker 5: big difference in terms of from your valuation standpoint, but
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  Speaker 5: it's getting very expensive.
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  Speaker 6: To do.
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  Speaker 5: But fortunately team I mean I think Buffalo's original stadium
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  Speaker 5: costs was one point four billion. I'm not mistaken. The
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  Speaker 5: early early projections in the city and counties and states
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  Speaker 5: outlay was capped at eight hundred and fifty million dollars.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of money, but ultimately the stadium and
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  Speaker 5: am costing two point two billion dollars and the rest
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  Speaker 5: of that falling on the team to fund. So small market,
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  Speaker 5: small market teams like Buffalo, like Tennessee, which is gonna
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  Speaker 5: open next year. They're still able to command pretty significant
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  Speaker 5: public dollars. Team like the Bears, they're not getting any
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  Speaker 5: public funding. Big market franchises or coastal cities typically are
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  Speaker 5: are not getting any help building these stadiums.
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  Speaker 1: Is there I'm looking at hockey and the most valuable
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  Speaker 1: franchise is seventy fourth on your top one hundred list.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a franchise out there, Kurt that if you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to invest in and get the most bang for
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  Speaker 1: your buck, you study this stuff. What would you buy?
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  Speaker 5: That's a good question. I mean a few years ago
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  Speaker 5: I was telling people you got to buy WMBA and
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  Speaker 5: WSL teams. Those those Now those valuations are up you know,
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  Speaker 5: five hundred six in some cases, so not not quite
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  Speaker 5: the same screaming buy that they were a few years ago.
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  Speaker 5: But I would say the place where you can still
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  Speaker 5: find value, there's a ton of risk in it. The
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  Speaker 5: value is in baseball. Okay, those those valuations have been
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  Speaker 5: held back by the meltdown of the RSN model because
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  Speaker 5: baseball teams are so reliant on those economics struggling because
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  Speaker 5: of labor issues.
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  Speaker 1: That's regional sports network.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, Regional sports networks that MLB teams were very
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  Speaker 5: reliant on those revenues, and as you've seen ballet sports
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  Speaker 5: and the other iterations of ballet sports basically disappear, those
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  Speaker 5: regional sports networks rights views have disappeared with them. So
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  Speaker 5: right now baseball is valued at much lower multiples of
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  Speaker 5: revenue than you see in the NBA, the NFL, and
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  Speaker 5: the NBA. And you've had some people buy in early
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  Speaker 5: on Sixth Street. Gigantic San Francisco investment firm bought ten
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  Speaker 5: percent of the Giants. You've had people start to buy
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  Speaker 5: in betting on baseball. Figuring out their labor problems might
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  Speaker 5: require lockout, figuring out the TV situation once the national
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  Speaker 5: deals expire at the end of twenty twenty eight. Baseball
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  Speaker 5: wants to come to market in twenty twenty nine with
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  Speaker 5: a combo of national and local rights that in theory
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  Speaker 5: generates a lot more money than the previous deals do,
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  Speaker 5: but also helps level the financial gap between the Dodgers
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  Speaker 5: and Marlins of the world, because that's the other the
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  Speaker 5: revenue disparities, the other massive problem that baseball is dealing with.
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  Speaker 5: So baseball figures out those three things. You talk to
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  Speaker 5: investors and bankers, they expect baseball teams to see a
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  Speaker 5: significant step up in valuations to be more comparable to
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  Speaker 5: NBA and NFL teams.
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  Speaker 1: So if I'm going to buy the Rangers, now would
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  Speaker 1: be a good time.
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  Speaker 5: Now is a good time. But you need a significant
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  Speaker 5: appetite for risk because next year, next year could be
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  Speaker 5: a disag Yes, if you talk, if you look at
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  Speaker 5: a season with you know, forty eighty, even a whole
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  Speaker 5: season canceled.
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  Speaker 1: That would be that would fitted perfectly with my investment portfolio.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, what does that mean that for your franchise? Not
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  Speaker 5: only did you have a really bad year? Did you?
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  Speaker 5: Did you turn fans away? And now all these dreams
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  Speaker 5: of figuring out how your media property works and you're
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  Speaker 5: going to market with fans totally irate. Yes, because you're
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  Speaker 5: going to want to start negotiating those TV contracts in
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty seven. You don't. You don't want to wait
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  Speaker 5: till twenty twenty eight, necessarily. And so Baseball's got really
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  Speaker 5: delicate dance and they have to be able to somehow
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  Speaker 5: thread the needle and figure out because it's not just
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  Speaker 5: players versus owners in baseball, right, because it is so different.
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  Speaker 5: Teams are the top first teams at the bottom. So
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  Speaker 5: you got to figure out what's the right agreement for
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  Speaker 5: big market owners, small market owners, and players.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: You have to satisfy all and and the group in
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  Speaker 5: the middle.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: There aren't just the payees or giant receivers of revenue sharing. So, UH,
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  Speaker 5: you've got a lot of a lot of cooks in
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  Speaker 5: the kitchen that that that are looking uh for what's
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  Speaker 5: in the best interests of their franchise.
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  Speaker 1: Kur Budenhousen rights for Sportico.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: What are you guys going to do your college valuations? Kurt?
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  Speaker 5: So that's a good question. We've been thinking about it.
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  Speaker 5: But you can find a couple of them out there.
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  Speaker 5: The Athletic and CNBC have both done them in some way.
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  Speaker 5: In some ways, those valuations are are easy ish because
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  Speaker 5: you know the revenue basically for all the for all
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  Speaker 5: the the total athletic department, and then then then the
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  Speaker 5: football teams, and then you put them. They both put
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  Speaker 5: multiples of revenue on it.
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  Speaker 9: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: The problem is, obviously we haven't seen any deals where
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  Speaker 5: where these things are sold and and there's no scenario
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  Speaker 5: where Notre Dame is going to be sold. And we've
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  Speaker 5: been figuring they investors have been looking at these schools
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  Speaker 5: for the last few years, private equity firms, and we wrote,
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  Speaker 5: you know, when the initial conversations between Sixth Street and
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  Speaker 5: Florida State, which were we broke a bunch of stories
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  Speaker 5: around that, and Florida State hired JP Morgan. Nothing came
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  Speaker 5: to nothing came to fruition. But you know what these
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: deals look like, nobody's quite sure. And OTRO ultimately did
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  Speaker 5: a deal with University of Utah. And so it's what
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: they have evolved in terms of how they want to
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: do these deals where they look more like instead of
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: I'm buying a piece of this, it's basically a credit
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: deal where I'm loaning money to this either school or
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: conference in the case of the Big Twelve. But you're
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: seeing the Big twelve schools aren't taking the money right
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: because you know it's obviously if you take the money, though,
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  Speaker 5: you know you've got to be able to pay back.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: And so it's the college space is still so murky
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  Speaker 5: right now. You don't know if you're going to have
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: to pay your football players twenty million a year or
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: fifty million a year. There's you know, you've got bills
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: before Congress, and but you know, leaning on Congress to
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: try to figure out your organization maybe isn't always the
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: best play. So uh, but there's there's no two ways
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: about it. Football in particular is college football is massive
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: revenue generators. You look at what Fox and CBS and
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: ABC are doing, uh with TV. They're putting more and
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: more games on TV in prime time and then during
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: the day because they that is where the audience is.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Go look back to what we talked about in the
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: beginning why these franchises are so valuable because people watch
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: sports and they watch it live. So that's you see
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: more and more programming on TV and these whether it's
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: college or pro space. Again, you still want to create
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: a level of scarcity where these things feel like a
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: big deal that you're watching. The part of the NFL's
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: beauty is, you know, you get to watch your local
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: team and then a handful of other big national games
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: well as the NFL has proliferated to be on Thursday
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: nights and Monday night for a long time, but now
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: we're doing some games on Saturday. And again, if college
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: can't figure their stuff out, you might see a lot
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: more NFL games on Saturday so is it still feel
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: as is every NFL game still feels important to tune
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: in and watch if you can just watch them all
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: the time. Right, Maybe I don't know, seven million people
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: watch the preseason Hall of Fame game is all backups
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: and nobody can name anybody on the field. So you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: you can thank fantasy sports, fantasy football, and gambling for
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: a big portion of people tuning in to watch the
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: most random games possible.
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  Speaker 1: Kurt, I always appreciate the knowledge. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: You can read Kurt Bodenhausen at Sportico. Thank you, Kurt.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks Chip. Great to catch up all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, My thanks to Kurt Bodenhausen from Sportico, formerly of Forbes.
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  Speaker 1: Kurt has been our go to guy when we talk
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• 25:50
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• 25:55
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• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back. Glad to have you with us. We've
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: been playing the phenomenal album Viva Terlingua, recorded fifty three
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: years ago today. There's so many stories. We have told
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of them over the years, and out of
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: it came an incredible album that helped define the Texas
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  Speaker 1: music scene period. That's the best way to say it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Normally Mallory would be here, but can you believe she's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: working today? Yeah, a real job, getting paid. She'll be
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: back tomorrow. We've got so much entertainment stuff to talk about.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: So it's okay. I'm used to going solo. That's just
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that's what we do. So we will soldier on tomorrow.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: That's Wednesday, right, Yeah. Scott clin Dinnon will be with
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: us tomorrow on the program. Thursday, we've got the Clark
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Eisenhower Outdoor Edition. We continue with our SEC preview through
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: next Tuesday. Of course tomorrow we're doing LSU. The Greenville
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: County Corners Office in South Carolina released a statement on
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Hayden Pantieri's autopsy a day after her death at the
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: age of thirty six. Corner Mike Ellis said there were
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: no signs of trauma found that would contribute to her death.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Details will be announced amidst an active and ongoing investigation.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Entertainment Weekly says that Ellis indicates the first responders found
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• 32:59
  Speaker 1: and you know that's ongoing. She was called struggling and
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: really lonely by the co star of her latest movie, Sleepwalker.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Justin Chatwin was a co star. He told people that
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: they had grown close while filming last year, saying, I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: really like spending time with her because she took off
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: and she was authentic with me about her life. She
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: opened up about her struggles with addiction. He met Panterea
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: while they were starring in the movie Heroes Reconnected through Sleepwalker,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: which is a psychological thriller. Justin telling people that he
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: could tell she was struggling. I was like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's this movie. There's a handful of women that
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  Speaker 1: I've really liked, and I really loved working with her,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: but I know she was really lonely. Hayden seemed different
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  Speaker 1: when I met her this time than when I met
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  Speaker 1: her in the early years. I've been sober fifteen years.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I know the world of addiction in Hollywood, and it
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: takes from your youth. She was married at one time
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to Ukrainian boxing champion Vladimir Klitchkow. The Paara got engaged
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, had an on again, off again relationship
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  Speaker 1: for almost a decade. Their daughter, eleven year old Kaya,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: was born in twenty fourteen. Lives in Europe with her father.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Klitchkow wrote, our families going through a time of profound
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  Speaker 1: shock and grief. The announcement of her tragic death saddens
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  Speaker 1: me deeply. She left this world far too soon. Klitchkow
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: has full custody of Kaya. She built an incredible career
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  Speaker 1: through immense talent while also facing the darker sides of
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  Speaker 1: a very demanding industry, said klitchko. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you've seen them, you know, one time together. He was
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• 35:26
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• 35:54
  Speaker 1: well of course they. Do bianca directed the. Project okay
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: is one of two new tracks added to the deluxe
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: version of the Album, bully released In. June, meanwhile THE
• 36:15
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  Speaker 1: mallory here to let me in on. THAT i, Mean
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: i've talked all day about an album that was made
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: fifty three years, ago so you know What i'm. Saying
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Bobby flay feeling, celebratory sharing a heartfelt tribute to his
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: girlfriend and fellow Chef Brooke williamson over the, weekend and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: An instagram post that included photos from their recent, travels
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: a dance party interlude at The New York City wine
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  Speaker 1: And Food festival last. Year Happy birthday to the most
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: talented chef in the, Universe flay, Wrote williamson turned forty.
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  Speaker 1: has been married several times, before makes no secret of failed.
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  Speaker 1: a content, creator Showed flay And williamson rolling up their
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: sleeves to create elaborate meals for their. Guests with a
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: weekend At. Bobby's they've been spotted at public events since Last.
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• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Brawl flay opened up about the relationship in A may
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: interview With Good Morning. America my girlfriend is now one
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  Speaker 1: of the captains on the, show so we're competing against each,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: other he told them In, may, joking, basically it's a
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: no win. Situation he was, Kidding we, think he. Said
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: it's a very healthy. Relationship he offered details about their working.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Relationship when a fan On instagram asked if the pair
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: was as competitive in real life as they are on the,
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  Speaker 1: Show flay answered absolutely. Not that would be a bad.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Idea we're both very supportive of each. Other it's a. Miracle,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: frankly it's lasted this. Long and he's TELLING usa today
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: because he's promoting season two Of Bobby's Triple. Threat it
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: seems there's no beef but plenty of sweetness to go
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: around Between flay And Guy. Fieri he told You essay.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Today i'm a huge fan of. Guys he's done an
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: incredibly great. Job, IRONICALLY i actually Handed guy his. Job
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: flay was a judge on season two of The Next
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Food Network star in twenty, six twenty years. Ago fiedti
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  Speaker 1: won that, contest Said. Flay to watch him climb the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: ranks and be so successful at what he, does it's
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: been really nice to. See you. Know there were reports
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: that maybe there was friction Because fiedti got a huge
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: new contract maybe a year a year and a half.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Ago flay has been with the network a while himself
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: continues to add. Shows i'm not sure when the contract
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: his current contract is. Up it seems like he signed
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: on to a three year, deal so we'll we'll. See
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: but you, know the reports That bobby was jealous Because
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: guy got a huge new contract with this, deal you,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: know he's only making about forty million a year something like.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: That But bobby's doing okay for. Himself don't feel sorry for.
• 41:07
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• 41:13
  Speaker 1: i don't know if you get your money's worth when
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you're talking forty, Million but you could say that about
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: an athlete or an actor or anybody. Else these guys
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: work a lot of, hours they do a lot of different,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: shows and they're paying them the, money AND i will
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: say they're making them earn it for the most. Part
• 41:34
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• 41:37
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