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Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, August 29 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, August nine, and this is Jackuars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour today is brought to you by the
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Speaker 1: Fields Aunto Group and now a guy who wouldn't describe
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Speaker 1: the Browns coaching drama as colorful, but thinks it's something
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Speaker 1: different you j P. Shadrick, see what you did there,
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Speaker 1: Joe so Fortunato, Welcome in, j P. Shadrick, John Os,
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Speaker 1: You're Jaguars Happy Our, presented by the Field's Auto Group
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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday. I never really know what Joe is
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Speaker 1: gonna say there, but it's probably better that way. I'm
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Speaker 1: not happy, j Why not? What are you upset about?
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour? I'm not particularly halfy. What's in that cup?
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Speaker 1: Oh coffee? We can make you happy real quick. It's
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Speaker 1: something in there. It's happy So it's happy hour. It's
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Speaker 1: four o'clock. Teams leaving the the plane is getting warmed up,
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Speaker 1: the buses are getting warmed up outside, and then you'll
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Speaker 1: be in Tampa to night. Yeah, all my bags are packed.
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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. Can't wait. It's not that's a
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Speaker 1: play to get to in the show today. Here are
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Speaker 1: the big three things today we'll review the kickoff lunch
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Speaker 1: in the Back to Football kickoff lunch and today at
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Speaker 1: t I A. Bank Field and the East us as
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Speaker 1: Shut Club. The team is off to Tampa. We'll get
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Speaker 1: some final thoughts about some guys to watch, some position groups.
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Speaker 1: We'll have Jeff Logman in to join us segment three
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Speaker 1: here and yeah, we're gonna go deep tracks. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: go deep down the album as we always do, to
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Speaker 1: find those tracks, those cuts, those players that you want
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Speaker 1: to really watch that are hitting gyms for this game
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Speaker 1: leaving on a jet plane, not one that's not one
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Speaker 1: of them at all. So that'll that'll come up a
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Speaker 1: little bit later. It's start off with the luncheon today though,
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Speaker 1: the annual lunch and at t I A bank Field
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Speaker 1: Back to Football. The Jaguars Foundation puts it on and
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Speaker 1: it's a fantastic advantage and every year over six hundred
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Speaker 1: people there today, packed house, table after table, if the
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Speaker 1: ad tables each and every year. It seems like when
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Speaker 1: you win football games, people want to come et lunch
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Speaker 1: with the football team. That's kind of how that works.
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Speaker 1: And always a great scene here after the event today,
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Speaker 1: Doug Morone was excited about how things went this year
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Speaker 1: in this luncheon. I'm excited for the fans and the support,
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Speaker 1: I think. I think that's what you see. I think
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Speaker 1: you're you get excited about um. You know, their their
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Speaker 1: their anxiousness to get out there, and and how proud
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Speaker 1: they are of their team. I think that, you know,
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Speaker 1: we we put a lot of work in that in
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Speaker 1: the past and and and you know, last year we
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Speaker 1: felt like we let them down, meaning at this luncheon
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Speaker 1: last year that we haven't been good enough for a
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Speaker 1: long period of time. And you know, we have unfinished
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Speaker 1: business and we do it. But you know, I still
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Speaker 1: feel the weight of making sure that we feel the
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Speaker 1: team that you know, this city can be proud of.
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Speaker 1: So you know, when I see the fans and I
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Speaker 1: run into fans, whether it's out on this tree or
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Speaker 1: in a restaurant or or here with our season ticket holders,
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Speaker 1: you know, I feel a greater sense of responsibility of
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Speaker 1: producing a good football team that has great results. Great
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Speaker 1: panel there today with the Tom cough On, Doug Marone,
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Speaker 1: Dave calledwell, that was kind of the highlight I think
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Speaker 1: of the lunch and didn't no offense to the coordinators
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Speaker 1: who did one as well. But you don't get to
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Speaker 1: hear from Tom Coughing a lot and Doug Moron, and
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Speaker 1: they've in the same stage together. And I think he
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Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head there of the tone
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Speaker 1: of that panel, unfinished business and taking it a step
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Speaker 1: at a time, building the foundation. But they they left
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Speaker 1: some meat on the bone at the end of the
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Speaker 1: playoffs last year. They know that, and they know they
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Speaker 1: have another step to go. I forget the exact quote,
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Speaker 1: but Tom basically said, hey, we're pleased with the progress
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Speaker 1: you made last year, but we're not done, and there's
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Speaker 1: a lot more work to be done. And they would
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Speaker 1: be pleased with it, they've got to get two steps further.
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Speaker 1: And they didn't say two steps further. They didn't specify
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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, but that was the tone. And Tom
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Speaker 1: made a point on one of the questions you asked
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Speaker 1: him to say, uh, please with the progress, but not enough. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I think that's the tone. That's what I took
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Speaker 1: from the luncheon. And I was lunched by the way
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Speaker 1: JP did you. It was pretty good salmon and steak
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Speaker 1: on both both on the same plate. You didn't get
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Speaker 1: him the nimble, No, I was over with the unwashed.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you a little bit of an issue for me,
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Speaker 1: but I'll be all right. Apparently, so little thing. I'm glad,
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Speaker 1: it was great. Thank you. Another thing during the lunch
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Speaker 1: and each and every year is the Jaguars Foundation gets
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Speaker 1: the benefits from the luncheon and the auction items and everything,
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Speaker 1: but they give out community awards to some of the
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Speaker 1: players each and every year, and this year a couple
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Speaker 1: of players were named. Tommy Bill Hannon the Sportsmanship and
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Speaker 1: Courage Award winner and Jaguars quarterback Blake Bortles the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Community Leader. He won that award today, and the quarterback said,
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Speaker 1: you know, he's taken this award, but it's more for
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Speaker 1: the entire team. Huge honor and super proud to be
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Speaker 1: able to to receive this. Um, you know, like kind
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Speaker 1: of Tommy just talked about. We don't do this for
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Speaker 1: the awards or for the notoriety. We do it to
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Speaker 1: try and make a difference as much as possible in
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Speaker 1: the community that we live in here in Jacksonville and
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Speaker 1: also where we're all from. Um. So there's plenty of
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Speaker 1: guys that that were super capable of winning this award
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Speaker 1: or I guess qualified to do it. So I'm happy
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Speaker 1: and honored to be the guy. We've seen Blake portals
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Speaker 1: out in the community over his seasons, his years here
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. He does a lot for first responders. He
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Speaker 1: works with the Ark Jacksonville for for those folks there
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Speaker 1: and does a great job. They're providing scholarships for people
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Speaker 1: to to live on campus there and and and be
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Speaker 1: involved in the summer programs for the ARC. He's all
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Speaker 1: over the place. The guy is out and about. He's
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Speaker 1: not just hiding in his house and hiding in the stadium.
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Speaker 1: He loves being a part of this community. As he said,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think you could probably name ten or
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Speaker 1: fifteen guys who who could legitimately be standing there taking
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Speaker 1: awards for genuinely reaching out in the community and caring
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Speaker 1: about it. He's certainly one. And I get questions all
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Speaker 1: the time, Uh, is this guy as cool as down
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Speaker 1: to earth? Uh? He's funny, he relaxed with the media,
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Speaker 1: all those things. But I do think his dedication to
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Speaker 1: the UH causes that he believes in is sometimes overlooked
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Speaker 1: because of everything else that goes around with the guy.
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Speaker 1: And I think he would say that in five years
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Speaker 1: around here, he's grown in that role, and I get
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Speaker 1: the feeling with him that's just like most things when
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Speaker 1: you talk to him, it's a very genuine act when
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Speaker 1: he is out in the community. Again, as is the
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Speaker 1: case for a lot of these guys. We mentioned a
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Speaker 1: lot of these guys, you know, the guys that are
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Speaker 1: out there. I mean it's Malik Jackson, Kleis Leonard for
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Speaker 1: Nette both here and in New Orleans, just to name
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Speaker 1: just three of those guys. I mean, there are a
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Speaker 1: lot of people that get out and about on their
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Speaker 1: day off on Tuesdays, and this is a fantastic day
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Speaker 1: each year to honor those guys. Did you stay for
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Speaker 1: the Coordinator portion? I did stay for the Coordinator a portion.
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Speaker 1: I laughed. Pretty good panel there with Todd Wash and
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Speaker 1: they and Jodi Camilla's three personalities there that can they
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Speaker 1: can bring it a little. I don't know if Todd
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Speaker 1: Washing has a future in comedy, but I laughed today.
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Speaker 1: The comment he made was that Jalen Ramsey was going
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Speaker 1: to lead the discussion of opposing quarterbacks and the defensive media,
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Speaker 1: so well, yeah, stuff like that. It's interesting though, to
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Speaker 1: hear his comments on how he has to harness all
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Speaker 1: these personalities and guys together and he doesn't have to
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Speaker 1: too much. Just poke the bear a little bit and
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Speaker 1: that will go attack. Well, he made the comment and
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Speaker 1: I happened to walk back after the luncheon with him
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Speaker 1: and he kind of I mentioned that Jalen things, yeah, um,
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Speaker 1: and but he did tell them in Minnesota, tell the
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Speaker 1: defense in Minnesota. Hey, you know, you guys, I'm paraphrasing, um,
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Speaker 1: but you guys can learn a little something. You're going
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Speaker 1: to the number one you know from watching the number
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Speaker 1: one defense across the ball, and I said, they didn't
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Speaker 1: like that a whole lot. And I motivate him a
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Speaker 1: little bit. But that's he knows these guys, and I
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Speaker 1: think from talking to Todd over the years, he also
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Speaker 1: knows these guys. That's sort of motivation, that sort of
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Speaker 1: tweaking them gets them going. But they are even without that.
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Speaker 1: They're such a prideful group and there is a sense
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Speaker 1: with these guys that they want to be the best.
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Speaker 1: And he knows how to reach these guys. Good communicator.
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Speaker 1: They respect him, and you know, the whole thing is
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Speaker 1: going well right now for the Defense. It's not breaking
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Speaker 1: news that Nathaniel hack It loves the quarterback and his
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Speaker 1: development and how he's growing over the last couple of years.
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Speaker 1: I think that's been a storyline before. But to hear
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Speaker 1: him say that today and expound on that a little
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Speaker 1: bit was was nice to hear. Well it's said, and
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Speaker 1: I think most notably with Nate, it's believed. You know,
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Speaker 1: you can say what you want publicly about a quarterback,
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Speaker 1: but this is a guy who's known Blake Bordles. I'm
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Speaker 1: getting the math right, nearly two years as the quarterbacks coach,
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Speaker 1: a couple of games or half a season there at
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Speaker 1: the end when Greg Olsen left, and now he's going
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Speaker 1: into his fourth year being around him. He has done
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Speaker 1: a you can see the offense developing even further from
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Speaker 1: what they've done in preseason this year, but done a
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Speaker 1: remarkable job in letting Blake grow, letting the offense develop
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Speaker 1: at a pace where Blake can grow within it, knowing
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Speaker 1: what he's capable of doing, you know, first quarter of
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Speaker 1: last season, last quarter last season, what he can add
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Speaker 1: now and uh, you know, it's it's been a good combination.
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Speaker 1: And I think Nate deserves a lot of credit not
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Speaker 1: just for Blake reaching the point that he has, but
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Speaker 1: having confidence in him to do that and allowing the
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Speaker 1: whole offense to develop around Blake as well. So d
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Speaker 1: Camillo's special teams coordinator, had some comments on the new
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Speaker 1: the kickoff rules and learning curve there, and he said,
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Speaker 1: let's see it from some real games first. It's still
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Speaker 1: work in progress. Some of those rules are a little different.
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Speaker 1: But he also made a good point we'll here from
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Speaker 1: a little bit later in the show as well. But um,
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Speaker 1: going into this fourth preseason game, a lot of eyes
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Speaker 1: on special teams roles and to make a football team.
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Speaker 1: That's how a lot of young guys in the league,
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Speaker 1: especially make their first NFL rosters, being a special teams player,
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Speaker 1: being an ace of a certain area, not necessarily as
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Speaker 1: a starter on offensive defense. But he said he's also
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Speaker 1: seen guys make the roster in the final preseason game,
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Speaker 1: and he's seen guys that have performed well for the
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Speaker 1: first three weeks not do so well in the last
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Speaker 1: one and and get cut from a team. So if
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Speaker 1: you don't think this week is important, just take a
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Speaker 1: look at those guys fighting for a job. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: that makes sense because Joe is working very closely. I
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Speaker 1: would hate to call on the bottom of the roster
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Speaker 1: but the majority of the rosters. And but he does
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Speaker 1: work with guys who, Okay, you're getting down to the
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Speaker 1: last two or three spots where okay, we've got the
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Speaker 1: depth chart decided in a lot of areas. Now can
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Speaker 1: this guy help us on teams? So he has seen
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Speaker 1: cases as I'm sure again because preseason week four, for
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Speaker 1: some of these guys around the bottom of the roster,
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Speaker 1: this is by far their biggest uh playtime, if you will.
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Speaker 1: So they're gonna be playing, you know, fifty sixty plays
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Speaker 1: whereas they might have been playing fifteen. So it makes
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Speaker 1: sense that some of these guys would be able to
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Speaker 1: rise and fall based on that last game because it's
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Speaker 1: such a large percentage of their entire body of work.
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Speaker 1: So well that happened this year, who knows, you know,
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Speaker 1: As he intimated today, coaches go into this last game
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Speaker 1: uh as as any normal person would. They've got their
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Speaker 1: stuff penciled in. Okay, like this guy, like this guy,
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Speaker 1: like this guy. But then if a guy comes out
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Speaker 1: and just loses it and is awful, you've got to
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Speaker 1: rethink it. And he mentioned one guy I think he
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Speaker 1: was with the Bears who just played magnificently in a
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Speaker 1: final preseason game, showed he loved the game, showed he
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Speaker 1: loved everything about it, was playing at a high level,
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Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. You know, the last film
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Speaker 1: they see is going to have a big influence on
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Speaker 1: what happened Saturday between noon and four. And that's not
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Speaker 1: just for the Jaguars and their future, but thirty one
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Speaker 1: other teams take a look at some of the film
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Speaker 1: as well in different positions, and the waiver wire comes down,
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Speaker 1: so that that lasting impression is not just a Jaguars impression,
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Speaker 1: it's a league impression. And beyond that, something you mentioned
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Speaker 1: the very start with Joe, that position, meaning the special
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Speaker 1: teams coordinator, is in a fascinating situation this year because
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Speaker 1: they are really in a very a very real sense,
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Speaker 1: he mentioned it today, they're learning some of these new
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Speaker 1: rules on the fly, beyond anything in terms of how
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Speaker 1: they line up, in terms of what they can do,
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Speaker 1: sometimes in terms of how they're going to approach kickoff
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Speaker 1: coverage and kick off return. So Joe was talking today
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Speaker 1: a little bit about going back and studying what other
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Speaker 1: teams are doing in a very almost a rough draft
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Speaker 1: point of view of what's the best way to approach
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Speaker 1: these newers. I know he has his plan, but there
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Speaker 1: is also a more so than any other other part
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Speaker 1: of the game in a long time, almost a fresh
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Speaker 1: start of having to look at and say, are we
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Speaker 1: doing this right? Is this basic concept that we're doing right?
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Speaker 1: Yourn Eate Hacketts not doing that. He knows you gotta
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Speaker 1: run the ball, don't you know? But the special teams
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Speaker 1: people and see right now are having to make sure
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Speaker 1: is somebody out there doing something that we haven't even
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Speaker 1: thought of with this rule that's gonna make it work.
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Speaker 1: So I'm sure there is a lot more late nights
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Speaker 1: for him looking at it and saying do I have
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Speaker 1: every base covered within the context of these new rules?
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Speaker 1: Knowing him right, yeah, I mean he is. He's a
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Speaker 1: grinder man. He'll go all the way late at late
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Speaker 1: at night. Let's get to the drive time Twitter question
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Speaker 1: of the day from this morning, John, you were on
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Speaker 1: this morning. It's a Wednesday. That's one of your three
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Speaker 1: days that you're allotted to go in the morning. That's
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Speaker 1: one of my three days they allow me. That's in
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Speaker 1: your contract, right, it's quite a kind Oh what a
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Speaker 1: what a contract it is? Who will surprise and stand
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Speaker 1: out on Thursday, Trey Herndon, Tommy Bohannon, Jared Wilson, or
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Speaker 1: somebody else. And that's so far. Someone else has the
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Speaker 1: vote today. Uh, Tommy Bohannon is next, Jared Wilson, and
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Speaker 1: then Trey Herndon. You know, for me, we'll go into
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Speaker 1: this a little bit later, deep deep tracks and all
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Speaker 1: that stuff. But of those on the screen right there,
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Speaker 1: the biggest surprise might be Herndon. I mean you, Tommy
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Speaker 1: Bohandon started for this team. Jared Wilson is flashed already
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Speaker 1: in the preseason. It's Herndon or somebody else. So you
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Speaker 1: could pick from a lot of guys and somebody else.
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Speaker 1: Sounds you get my mean by that question. I don't
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Speaker 1: do that question. D I think it's your I think
14:46
Speaker 1: it's it's your day. Sounds like you're a little angry.
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Speaker 1: I'm not angry. I'm just saying, well, I'm not. The
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Speaker 1: question is a fair question answering. The people answering may
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Speaker 1: may not be on the straight and narrow. Yeah, And
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Speaker 1: I think we're beyond the point where Herndon's is a prod.
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Speaker 1: I think hern is on the team, and uh, maybe
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Speaker 1: people who don't follow it quite as closely would be
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Speaker 1: surprised by that. I think he's gonna be the fifth corner. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think if there's a surprise on that list. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've talked to Jeff Lockhaman as well.
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Speaker 1: He he thinks Bohannon that roster spot may not go
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Speaker 1: to a fullback, that it may be tight end. Come
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Speaker 1: along and and and do some h back stuff. The
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Speaker 1: way they're running the offense, that makes some sense. Jared Wilson, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we talked about it's some I believe on Drive Time
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Speaker 1: this morning. Interesting because he has performed. He is clearly
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Speaker 1: a guy who they trust at the safety position. Yet
15:41
Speaker 1: you have Ronnie Harrison, who's clear they're gonna make the team,
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Speaker 1: and you have Cody Davis who might be the best
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Speaker 1: special teams player on the team. So he's on the team.
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Speaker 1: Those two guys, So do they keep five safeties if
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Speaker 1: they keep you in this situation where if Jared Wilson
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Speaker 1: would happen not to make the team, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if people are not but if he happens not to
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Speaker 1: make the team, people say, well he wasn't as good
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Speaker 1: as he was last year or they don't like him, Well,
16:03
Speaker 1: it made us be a roster situation where they maybe
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Speaker 1: they have five or six cornerbacks they want to keep. Uh,
16:10
Speaker 1: they have an offensive line issue, I think with the
16:13
Speaker 1: fact that I don't know that they want will Richardson
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Speaker 1: to play right away, but you gotta keep him because
16:18
Speaker 1: they want him as the future. So you have to
16:19
Speaker 1: keep extra lineman to make sure that you're strong in
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Speaker 1: some spots. Uh, not to sing about will Richardson. That's
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Speaker 1: the case with a lot of rookies around the lineup.
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Speaker 1: Are you having to keep some guys on the roster
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Speaker 1: to make sure you can function while looking at guys
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Speaker 1: for the future as well. So Jared Wilson, I think,
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Speaker 1: I think we'll be on it, but if they keep
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Speaker 1: for safety is probably not. We'll return a little bit later.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to the deep tracks, guys to watch deep
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Speaker 1: Down the album down the roster for Thursday nights game
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Speaker 1: against the Buccaneers. I'll be there for that, I hope.
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Speaker 1: So because that's later in the show and you're you're
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Speaker 1: on the show, we'll come back though and breakdown Thursday
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Speaker 1: Nights game a little bit more playing time. We look
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Speaker 1: back up quarterbacks and discuss some other position groups as well,
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Speaker 1: including wide receiver and on the defensive side of the ball.
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Speaker 1: coming up in just a little while. Also, Hey, coming up,
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Speaker 1: but Patriots are coming to town. You might have heard
18:51
Speaker 1: they were in the Super Bowl last year on the
18:53
Speaker 1: Jaguars were not um. Well, the Patriots are coming back.
18:58
Speaker 1: It's a revenge game and the Jaguars have put some
19:02
Speaker 1: tickets on sale for that game. The last couple of days,
19:06
Speaker 1: fewer than eight hundred seats in the Upper Bowl have
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Speaker 1: been released from season ticket packages. There are also some
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Speaker 1: standing room tickets available as well, including access to all
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Speaker 1: public areas including the butt Light Party Zone, Camp Grunt Style,
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Speaker 1: and the sky Patio. John will being camp grunt style
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Speaker 1: most games. Uh, they are available. I'm looking at him
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Speaker 1: right now on the Jaguars website Jaguars dot com, and
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Speaker 1: they are available. There are tickets available through ticket Master
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Speaker 1: in the Jaguars website for that Patriots game, which was
19:34
Speaker 1: originally announced as a sellout, but some more tickets have
19:36
Speaker 1: come available, so check them out Jaguars dot com. It's
19:39
Speaker 1: a hot ticket right now, John, that that Patriots game.
19:43
Speaker 1: You know it is. It's out there in the interwebs.
19:44
Speaker 1: It's on the internet. It must be true. You mentioned Skinner.
19:48
Speaker 1: Is Curtis Lowe a deep track? Fair? I don't know.
19:52
Speaker 1: That's a borderline one for me. You know, we do
19:54
Speaker 1: the deep tracks later in the in the show where
19:56
Speaker 1: we you know, we start off with a deep track,
19:59
Speaker 1: a song, explain it, and then we, you know, pick some.
20:04
Speaker 1: Is it a deep track? He's the finest picked, all right?
20:07
Speaker 1: But I think that it's it's not as deep as
20:09
Speaker 1: you would think anymore because it's out there now, it's
20:12
Speaker 1: out there. Everybody kind of knows about it. My friend
20:15
Speaker 1: Bruce Gardner in college to where that was their best.
20:17
Speaker 1: It's he he might not be wrong, that's right. He
20:21
Speaker 1: might be deep track they played on Sunday. But I
20:23
Speaker 1: hope so too. Are you going? I don't know yet.
20:27
Speaker 1: I'm still toying with the idea. It's a day. It
20:30
Speaker 1: starts at three, ends at eleven o'clock or later. It's
20:33
Speaker 1: all day. I gotta be in bed in the morning,
20:36
Speaker 1: So it's it's tough. It's a struggle. Jaguar is happy,
20:43
Speaker 1: I represented by the Fields Auto Group, continues Doug Morone
20:48
Speaker 1: earlier this week. He knows how difficult this week is.
20:52
Speaker 1: He was in this position before and this is the week.
20:55
Speaker 1: You know, Saturday they make the cuts. He's got to
20:58
Speaker 1: sit across the desk from a guy and tell him
21:00
Speaker 1: that his job here has done. And that's tough for
21:02
Speaker 1: the head coach. This is probably um the worst part
21:08
Speaker 1: of of the job, I'd say, so, so you know,
21:16
Speaker 1: it's always it's this week is always tough for me. Yeah,
21:20
Speaker 1: And and he knows it because he's had that conversation
21:22
Speaker 1: a few times. We discussed this earlier this week, that
21:25
Speaker 1: you know, he makes a point to sit across from
21:27
Speaker 1: every guy. At least it might not be a long conversation,
21:30
Speaker 1: but it is a meaningful conversation for both sides, and
21:34
Speaker 1: certainly for the player, a lasting impression of of Doug
21:36
Speaker 1: Moron in the Jaguars organization, and some of these guys
21:39
Speaker 1: might be back around if down the road here some
21:41
Speaker 1: of them might not ever play and suit up ever
21:43
Speaker 1: again in football. Yeah, I'm not surprised that he does this.
21:48
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know how much that concept
21:54
Speaker 1: resonates with fans that you might say, well, of course
21:58
Speaker 1: the head coach is gonna talk to every guy, but um,
22:00
Speaker 1: I have heard of coaches who don't do that. I've
22:02
Speaker 1: been around coaches who have, and it just speaks to
22:06
Speaker 1: the level of it's not an easy conversation for a coach.
22:11
Speaker 1: But I do believe that the empathy, the compassion and
22:18
Speaker 1: the feeling that Doug has for guys. He mentioned that
22:20
Speaker 1: he was cut six times, so he has an appreciation,
22:25
Speaker 1: and I think it's a real appreciation for what these
22:26
Speaker 1: guys have given uh and and for the fact that
22:30
Speaker 1: a lot of times when these guys walk out of
22:34
Speaker 1: this building, there walking out of what they have known
22:41
Speaker 1: since they were eight years old, and some of them
22:44
Speaker 1: knowing realistically is for the last time. And I do
22:47
Speaker 1: think it says something that he it takes the time
22:51
Speaker 1: to make sure he's I'm sure he's not hogging him
22:54
Speaker 1: and pat him on that, but he he takes the
22:56
Speaker 1: time to make sure that they at least hear from him, um,
23:00
Speaker 1: that he appreciates it, that he gets it. Uh. And
23:05
Speaker 1: it's a very sudden thing because they go through that,
23:08
Speaker 1: and all the players feel that, to the starting players,
23:12
Speaker 1: even the guys who have been a lead and never
23:13
Speaker 1: been through that, when they walk into that locker room
23:16
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, it is a jolting experience, if you will,
23:20
Speaker 1: because they've had ninety guys in the locker room for
23:23
Speaker 1: what since March, and all of a sudden, it's almost
23:26
Speaker 1: I was saying half, but it's down to fifty three.
23:28
Speaker 1: It's it's down by a third, and it is different,
23:31
Speaker 1: and there might be a guy. Uh. I'm trying to
23:34
Speaker 1: thank Leonard for Nette locker I forget who's next to him,
23:37
Speaker 1: but sitting right across from Leonard for Nett, who's clearly
23:39
Speaker 1: gonna be on the team, is a guy who Leonard's
23:41
Speaker 1: probably talked to every day for three months. A sudden
23:45
Speaker 1: he's gone. So there is a little bit of realization,
23:47
Speaker 1: even for for Net that this ends quick and let's
23:51
Speaker 1: savor the moment, then you're gonna move on and get ready.
23:53
Speaker 1: But there are a couple of hours on Monday where
23:55
Speaker 1: it's it's a weird environment and cut down day with
23:58
Speaker 1: Doug talking to him at the start of the playing time.
24:01
Speaker 1: This Thursday, we'll hear from Jeff Flagman coming up next segment.
24:04
Speaker 1: But John the quarterbacks here. You know, I first thought
24:07
Speaker 1: it might be Tanner Lee's game, right the third quarterback.
24:11
Speaker 1: You don't want to rest the backup, don't want to
24:13
Speaker 1: get him hurt or whatever. But Doug Bron said the
24:15
Speaker 1: other day, No, Cody's playing. He's gonna go out there
24:18
Speaker 1: and play. And as you said this week and have written,
24:21
Speaker 1: you gotta see how this thing goes. I guess because
24:24
Speaker 1: if if the line is poorous for some reason and
24:27
Speaker 1: he gets hurt, then then that's bad news. Yeah. I
24:29
Speaker 1: don't want Cody Kessler hurt um and I don't you know,
24:32
Speaker 1: I'm sure anybody else does either. But you need some
24:34
Speaker 1: time to Yeah, I don't expect Cody to play very long.
24:37
Speaker 1: I think he'll play. Yeah, my guests is a couple
24:40
Speaker 1: of series. But the backup line or backup reserves whatever,
24:47
Speaker 1: Kessler has been sacked. I believe it's eight times. And
24:49
Speaker 1: Tanner he's been sacked five times. That's thirteen times for
24:53
Speaker 1: thank you as algebra majors um. So that's thirteen times
24:57
Speaker 1: in three games. It's a lot. So let's be real
25:00
Speaker 1: careful what kind of danger we put Cody Kesler in
25:03
Speaker 1: and I don't think it'll be very long wide receivers
25:07
Speaker 1: be interesting to see who does not suit up. You
25:10
Speaker 1: would imagine that the names we've been talking about a
25:13
Speaker 1: lot of camp would would not even come close to
25:15
Speaker 1: the field, considering what happened to Marquis, especially the other day.
25:18
Speaker 1: The numbers are that slim now, so you know that
25:22
Speaker 1: that'll be what it is. Um, what's the battle like
25:26
Speaker 1: for the fifth spots? Is? Uh? The Green Mickens, those
25:29
Speaker 1: kind of guys get out there. You know that's a question.
25:31
Speaker 1: I think Green will play, you know. I'm I guess
25:35
Speaker 1: Mickens and Shane Win would be in a in a
25:39
Speaker 1: three way deal for five and six somewhere in there.
25:44
Speaker 1: I'm I'm wondering about Mickens because I do think his
25:48
Speaker 1: special teams. I've been saying since day one. I think
25:51
Speaker 1: he I thought in March he was gonna be a
25:53
Speaker 1: hard guy. For them to cut because they had seen
25:56
Speaker 1: him do it. Tom Coughlin had sat in a booth
25:59
Speaker 1: and watched him plays for him the way Tom feels
26:02
Speaker 1: about production, I've been I've been saying since day one,
26:04
Speaker 1: no matter what else is going on, I think its
26:06
Speaker 1: would be hard for him to cut that guy. Uh,
26:09
Speaker 1: you know, does Rashad make it? Uh? Does Shane Win
26:13
Speaker 1: sneak in? We'll see. We'll slip it to the defense. Now.
26:17
Speaker 1: You know, the front line guys on the defensive line
26:20
Speaker 1: won't see the field. That's pretty much a given. Starting
26:24
Speaker 1: linebackers probably say good night to them, let them have
26:27
Speaker 1: some gatorade. The corners. I mean, so you're going deep
26:29
Speaker 1: here and it's you know, the defensive line has guys
26:32
Speaker 1: that can roll in, and there's some questions of how
26:34
Speaker 1: many they might keep and who they might keep. And
26:36
Speaker 1: we'll ask Logs about this when he comes on a
26:38
Speaker 1: little bit later. Backup linebacker. That's been a big focus
26:42
Speaker 1: in this camp as well. Asked Jeff about that they
26:45
Speaker 1: had strong opens on the lineback. Yeah. Uh, they both
26:48
Speaker 1: have to play Brown and uh, Pain and Pain Smoot
26:54
Speaker 1: and Anko up front. You know, you wonder how much
26:58
Speaker 1: of what they did last year. The trust who makes
27:02
Speaker 1: it beyond those top eight guys who we know up
27:05
Speaker 1: front are gonna make it. So there are some deep
27:09
Speaker 1: track storylines that are going to be played out that
27:16
Speaker 1: if if you want to know who those forty three
27:19
Speaker 1: on the roster are, the guys we just talked about,
27:22
Speaker 1: you know are going to be I'm curiously what happens
27:26
Speaker 1: then on Saturday, and I do think what they do
27:28
Speaker 1: on on Thursday will factor into that a great deal.
27:31
Speaker 1: Um war turn. Jeff Lockman standing by. He will join
27:35
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27:40
Speaker 1: lineman First, just a good fella. He'll join us here
27:45
Speaker 1: in just a moment and break down Thursday night's game
27:48
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27:51
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27:54
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29:28
Speaker 1: think about this during the break, Jeff I was talking
29:30
Speaker 1: about the emotion of that first day when guys aren't
29:33
Speaker 1: here after there's cut down from three, and it was
29:37
Speaker 1: always it was always one of the weirder days as
29:39
Speaker 1: a reporter, which I've done. What times to walk in there,
29:43
Speaker 1: you walk out to practice sins from fifty three. It's
29:46
Speaker 1: a different world. You were never in a situation, not
29:50
Speaker 1: being a first round pick, where you were going to
29:51
Speaker 1: get cut. But is that day. I maintained it's weird
29:55
Speaker 1: for you guys who weren't going to get cut to
29:57
Speaker 1: It's a bizarre day where you realize how short this
30:01
Speaker 1: league can meet that and and also how how amazing
30:06
Speaker 1: uh and small the football team woulcome, you know, because
30:12
Speaker 1: he's all of a sudden, you've got ninety guys, and
30:13
Speaker 1: you know that was of course when I played, we
30:15
Speaker 1: had the nineties fifty three, so you had the graduated cuts,
30:19
Speaker 1: so you're spreading your stuff out. I mean, now all
30:23
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's just like bam, where'd everybody go?
30:26
Speaker 1: You know, but it's but it's a fifty three, but
30:28
Speaker 1: it's also sixty three because you're gonna have practice squad
30:32
Speaker 1: guys and all that. So, but it is a shock
30:34
Speaker 1: because you're sitting there looking around, going, wait a minute,
30:37
Speaker 1: our medium room was that like fifteen sixteen guys, and
30:41
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden it went down to eight
30:44
Speaker 1: or nine if you're lucky, sometimes ten, but for most
30:47
Speaker 1: part eight or nine, you know, in the defensive line
30:49
Speaker 1: medium room. But but it's gonna be an interesting cut,
30:53
Speaker 1: you know. I think that there's gonna be some good
30:54
Speaker 1: football players that are gonna be playing for other football
30:57
Speaker 1: teams after the weekend kind of kind of settles down,
31:00
Speaker 1: you know, the dust settle, so to speak. Because the
31:03
Speaker 1: Jaguars have a talented roster, and I think they're they're
31:05
Speaker 1: talented on the offensive line. Will they go heavy there
31:09
Speaker 1: because they are talented there? And they ask him young talent?
31:12
Speaker 1: I think in the defensive front they're very talented. Could
31:15
Speaker 1: they try to hide a guy maybe on ir or
31:18
Speaker 1: do they end up letting a guy go that's gonna
31:20
Speaker 1: get picked up? You know. So that's the other thing too.
31:23
Speaker 1: You know that you do have the cut and guys
31:25
Speaker 1: gonna get you know, opportunities to go elsewhere, but you
31:28
Speaker 1: also have the ability, uh to stash guys on. I
31:32
Speaker 1: R if they're hurt, you know, And when I say
31:35
Speaker 1: if they're hurt, you know, wink wink, he's hurt. You know,
31:39
Speaker 1: you have to set back, you know, because that has wend. Yeah,
31:44
Speaker 1: you know, some guys might have a setback, some guys
31:46
Speaker 1: might not, you know. So, but I'm looking forward to watching.
31:49
Speaker 1: One of the guys that I'm probably looking forward to
31:51
Speaker 1: watching the most is Will Richardson Jr. Don't draft pick,
31:55
Speaker 1: fourth round pick North Carolina State right tackle. Seem a
31:58
Speaker 1: little bit of him what I've seen so far pretty good,
32:00
Speaker 1: had quite figured out what he's supposed to do every time.
32:03
Speaker 1: But I want to see him play. How how much
32:05
Speaker 1: time has he had so far? Has he played limited?
32:08
Speaker 1: Limited reps? You know, but you know, probably a couple
32:10
Speaker 1: of series here and there, because first up for the
32:13
Speaker 1: most part has been somebody else, and he's been the
32:15
Speaker 1: third team right tackle so far. But now he's got
32:17
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be the starter and maybe go almost
32:21
Speaker 1: the whole game. How do you see it play? I mean,
32:23
Speaker 1: and I get that we have to watch it on Thursday,
32:25
Speaker 1: but I wonder, Jeff, if if you don't need to
32:28
Speaker 1: keep it, I know he'll be on the roster. Fourth
32:33
Speaker 1: round picks don't get cut. You have to have because
32:35
Speaker 1: you all still want him for the future. Is he
32:38
Speaker 1: ready now or do you need to keep a guy
32:40
Speaker 1: who can play that spot now and therefore have to
32:42
Speaker 1: keep offensive And you alluded to it earlier that he's
32:45
Speaker 1: not ready to be because here's the thing. Parnell's a
32:48
Speaker 1: starting right tackle. But if he had to go in
32:50
Speaker 1: an emergency, do you want that yet? Is he ready
32:52
Speaker 1: for that? I don't think the coaches or I wouldn't
32:54
Speaker 1: be confident enough that he would be ready to go in.
32:57
Speaker 1: So you know, Josh Wells is still my swing guy. Okay,
33:01
Speaker 1: So because that's kind of the conversation that you have
33:03
Speaker 1: to have. But they hit Pales all last year. I
33:06
Speaker 1: don't see that happening. Yeah, I don't. I don't see
33:09
Speaker 1: it because I don't think. I don't think Pales has
33:11
Speaker 1: great feet. Uh, he's very limited at tackle. At guard,
33:15
Speaker 1: he's kind of okay, he's still got limited feed even
33:18
Speaker 1: that guard. And you have really talented players on the
33:22
Speaker 1: inside backup wise, as far Shatley and Chris Read and
33:25
Speaker 1: these guys can come in and be starters if you
33:27
Speaker 1: need them to. At center and guard. I think Chris
33:29
Speaker 1: Reads a better guard than you. Guys get snapped up
33:32
Speaker 1: immediately if they're released in a in a millisecond there outside, guys,
33:37
Speaker 1: I don't I don't see those guys going anywhere. And
33:40
Speaker 1: I think you're you're probably gonna go nine on the
33:43
Speaker 1: offensive line and you've got your starting five and then
33:46
Speaker 1: you're looking at Shatley, read Wells and Richardson. I think
33:50
Speaker 1: that's probably gonna be your group defensive line. Now, what
33:53
Speaker 1: did you see out of Taven Brian the other night
33:55
Speaker 1: and what do you expect from him Thursday? Was? I
33:57
Speaker 1: mean okay, I mean made one nice tackle coming down
34:00
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and then he batted a pass
34:02
Speaker 1: where he's stuck on the line of scrimmage on a
34:04
Speaker 1: double team and did what he's supposed to do, you know,
34:07
Speaker 1: track the quarterback size and get a hand up and uh,
34:10
Speaker 1: but I mean it was a start. What was it? Like? Wow?
34:13
Speaker 1: You know where he's had some moments in camp that
34:15
Speaker 1: have been wow. You know where all Sadden he you know,
34:18
Speaker 1: jacks up an offensive lineman and literally with one hand
34:21
Speaker 1: throws him aside like he's a rag doll, which I
34:24
Speaker 1: can honestly say I was never able to do that
34:26
Speaker 1: my day. Okay. I mean so he has special a
34:29
Speaker 1: special skill set, which is he's strong, he's got good
34:32
Speaker 1: get off. But I think we're only starting to see
34:36
Speaker 1: just a little bit of what he's capable of. And
34:38
Speaker 1: and I think he plays this week, and he should
34:41
Speaker 1: play because he's only had exposure in one game so
34:44
Speaker 1: far in the preseason and he needs the reps. And
34:47
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's against the guy that's not
34:49
Speaker 1: gonna be in the league. He needs the reps. Sorry, John,
34:52
Speaker 1: another guy on the defensive line, Dante Faller Jr. The
34:54
Speaker 1: same way. He's gonna get reps next week. Let me
34:57
Speaker 1: say this about Dante this past week against the foule Him,
35:00
Speaker 1: I thought he was I thought he was amazing snaps.
35:03
Speaker 1: I thought he was fantastic, quick, athletic, Greig get Off,
35:09
Speaker 1: had a plan and pass rush which haven't seen in
35:11
Speaker 1: the past. He impressed me thoroughly. And a lot of
35:15
Speaker 1: people you always haven't said that about it, No, I haven't.
35:17
Speaker 1: You know. I've been one of these guys that kind
35:19
Speaker 1: of say, okay, you know, just a little caution when
35:21
Speaker 1: it comes to Dante. I'm not excited yet. But what
35:24
Speaker 1: I what I have seen out of him in that
35:26
Speaker 1: one game, I'm excited about. And a lot of people
35:28
Speaker 1: will say, well, you know, uh, he was on p
35:31
Speaker 1: U P and then he had the altercation and practice
35:35
Speaker 1: and then he got suspended. Look, the one thing about
35:39
Speaker 1: about Dante is is that he's never been a bad guys.
35:44
Speaker 1: Never been. I'm talking about in the locker room. Okay, now,
35:47
Speaker 1: the incident that he had last year off the field,
35:49
Speaker 1: that's a bad guy kind of stuff. Okay, Well, off
35:52
Speaker 1: the field, I think he's learned from that. But in
35:54
Speaker 1: the locker room for the most part and on the
35:56
Speaker 1: football field, he's never been a back on how he's
35:58
Speaker 1: made some bad decisions. But know he hasn't made bad decisions.
36:02
Speaker 1: But it's been two years. Personal storyline is rookie year.
36:07
Speaker 1: They kind of lingered a little unfairly last year. Yeah.
36:10
Speaker 1: I thought he took a big step up last year
36:14
Speaker 1: because he eliminated some of the bad decisions or the
36:17
Speaker 1: dumb penalties that he had. He increased the level of
36:20
Speaker 1: play that he had. And we know this. He is
36:23
Speaker 1: an incredibly special athlete. I mean, they just the good
36:27
Speaker 1: Lord just doesn't make people like Dante Fowler I mean
36:30
Speaker 1: he doesn't. You know a lot of people say, well,
36:32
Speaker 1: you can get another good football player. You know, you
36:35
Speaker 1: don't need to have Dante's problems. WHOA, they don't make
36:39
Speaker 1: Dante Fowlers all the time. Alright, Special athlete, Jeff, You
36:43
Speaker 1: and I haven't been on the air a whole lot
36:44
Speaker 1: together during the preseason. I've heard you're taking the linebackers.
36:49
Speaker 1: I went to hear it going in the backup situation
36:52
Speaker 1: going into this last game. Where do you think it stands? Hey,
36:55
Speaker 1: you think it all plays out. I don't think it
36:57
Speaker 1: stands very well. I'll say that. I think you've got
37:00
Speaker 1: one good backup. And Donald Payne, who two years ago
37:05
Speaker 1: was playing safety at the collegiate level, made the switch
37:08
Speaker 1: with Baltimore last year. The Jaguars were able to pick
37:10
Speaker 1: him up. He's got speed, he can play special teams.
37:15
Speaker 1: His natural position is probably will linebacker. I think the
37:19
Speaker 1: Jaguars were hoping that Blair Brown would take a step
37:21
Speaker 1: up who last year. He was a middle and late
37:24
Speaker 1: draft pick and out of a smaller school. And he's
37:27
Speaker 1: got great speed. But the awareness, uh, the level of
37:31
Speaker 1: playing the production with with Blair Brown is not there.
37:34
Speaker 1: How hard is that? To find if you go out
37:38
Speaker 1: and get a waiver wire. Guy, here's the hard to
37:41
Speaker 1: come in and do it? Why is that hard? Before
37:44
Speaker 1: I get to that, let me just say this because
37:45
Speaker 1: you know there's other linebackers on this roster too, okay,
37:49
Speaker 1: and they're not they're not there, okay, So and I
37:53
Speaker 1: won't go by name with them much. Just say, right now,
37:55
Speaker 1: Donald Payne is your fourth fourth linebacker, okay, behind your starters.
38:00
Speaker 1: And then after that then you're like, okay, this isn't
38:03
Speaker 1: good enough. Okay, So now you're looking at how do
38:06
Speaker 1: we how do we fix that? And how do you
38:08
Speaker 1: fix that? Is you're gonna be looking at every other
38:10
Speaker 1: team's cuts this weekend, and you're probably gonna be on
38:13
Speaker 1: the phone, you know, with somebody that might need a
38:16
Speaker 1: wide receiver if you've got a wide receiver that they like,
38:18
Speaker 1: or you know, a defensive lineman that that you know
38:21
Speaker 1: they like and you are willing to part with. So
38:24
Speaker 1: I think that's the first step. The next step because
38:26
Speaker 1: you're looking at the waiver wire. The hard part about
38:29
Speaker 1: finding a linebacker for this defense is that that the
38:31
Speaker 1: requirement is the linebacker that comes in here, he's got
38:34
Speaker 1: a run and I'm not talking four seven fast, I'm
38:38
Speaker 1: talking four fives. Okay, four six is or if he's
38:42
Speaker 1: a four six, he's got to be an incredibly instinctive
38:45
Speaker 1: player that can anticipate paid things, and that gives him
38:49
Speaker 1: a step up. Because these linebackers are expected to cover
38:52
Speaker 1: deep overs. We've seen puzz Lesnie chasing a wide receiver
38:56
Speaker 1: down the field yards. We've seen Telvin Smith do at
39:00
Speaker 1: It's a hard position to fill for this defense, and
39:03
Speaker 1: it's a unique situation. Not all teams in the league
39:07
Speaker 1: require linebackers to run four or four or four five,
39:09
Speaker 1: you know, so they love them if they do. But
39:11
Speaker 1: if if you can get a guy that can run,
39:13
Speaker 1: and even if he's a little bit smaller, maybe not
39:15
Speaker 1: a stout, then look, that's that's right up the Jaguars
39:17
Speaker 1: outlet he's on some teams. It's a position where you
39:20
Speaker 1: can go at the last minute, you gotta get a
39:22
Speaker 1: hammer because they're just coming up. But that's that's that's
39:26
Speaker 1: the hard part about filling that role with this football team.
39:28
Speaker 1: And and there's not many four or four or four
39:30
Speaker 1: or five linebackers that teams are willing to part with
39:32
Speaker 1: when it comes down to get fifty three. There's not
39:34
Speaker 1: many on the waiver wire out, that's right, because they're
39:36
Speaker 1: they're all employed elsewhere. Um beyond that, Okay, special team
39:44
Speaker 1: storylines here, Who are some guys that make this team
39:47
Speaker 1: with their special teams? Well, I think Carson Tinker's a lock. Okay,
39:50
Speaker 1: good idea. I brought him up because you know what,
39:54
Speaker 1: we probably everybody we hadn't talked about him at all,
39:58
Speaker 1: you know, but let's not forget he's coming back from
40:01
Speaker 1: an a c O. He has looked forward and concredible job.
40:05
Speaker 1: I look, I've been through an a c L. That's
40:07
Speaker 1: not an easy injury to return from. Kudos to Carson
40:10
Speaker 1: Tinker for getting himself back and his snapping looks just
40:14
Speaker 1: like it did before and that's perfect and so that's
40:17
Speaker 1: a good thing there. Josh Lambo has been really, really
40:20
Speaker 1: solid once again. Logan Cook love his leg now a
40:24
Speaker 1: little concerned about the three steps that he takes sometimes
40:26
Speaker 1: I think it can be a little bit long. He's
40:29
Speaker 1: starting to clean some of that up last week and
40:31
Speaker 1: back the poor punt that he had. He was working
40:33
Speaker 1: on the one step Okay, trying to be a little
40:35
Speaker 1: real quick, you know, when he has to do and
40:36
Speaker 1: it didn't go so well to kick. But you know,
40:38
Speaker 1: he's a young punter and he's, uh, he likes to
40:40
Speaker 1: fish and hunt, so I'm kind of a fan of his,
40:42
Speaker 1: you know, so, you know, because we kind of like
40:43
Speaker 1: those guys. But the special teams wise, you spent a
40:46
Speaker 1: lot of money and put a lot of attention in
40:48
Speaker 1: the off season. Okay, you brought guys in here for
40:50
Speaker 1: the first time ever. Okay, and I think uh and
40:54
Speaker 1: and and Dave Caldwell's era, they made a motion to
40:57
Speaker 1: do that two years ago or last year, but it
40:59
Speaker 1: was the same as this, not like this. I mean,
41:01
Speaker 1: Nyles Paul and Cody Davis are guys that would not
41:05
Speaker 1: make a team as a positional player. Okay, They're not
41:08
Speaker 1: your best tight end, they're not your best safety. They're
41:10
Speaker 1: making this football team because they will be one of
41:14
Speaker 1: the top five special teams players on this roster. And
41:17
Speaker 1: that's why they're gonna be on this roster. And that's
41:19
Speaker 1: why I think special teams will be improved because you
41:22
Speaker 1: add guys like that to Laurente mccraige, who's already a
41:25
Speaker 1: good football player, Donald Payne and uh, maybe Jared Wilson,
41:30
Speaker 1: I know, because he's been pretty good and special teams
41:32
Speaker 1: this preseason, and that's a position that's going to be
41:35
Speaker 1: one that we've got to watch two now because all
41:37
Speaker 1: of a sudden, if they if Jared Wilson's on this roster,
41:40
Speaker 1: that's five safeties, which which people are assuming that he
41:44
Speaker 1: will be. I'm a huge f Four safeties is sort
41:48
Speaker 1: of the number now. It really is because of look corners.
41:52
Speaker 1: You gotta have guys who can run. And so there's
41:55
Speaker 1: another guy we tart talking about, okay, trying to find
41:58
Speaker 1: a linebacker. We talk about where are you maybe you
42:01
Speaker 1: know a little deep at that you might have the
42:03
Speaker 1: luxury of trading a guy. You know, could it be
42:05
Speaker 1: a Jared Wilson, you know, could it be Rashad Green,
42:10
Speaker 1: could it be uh Dawn Smooth. I mean those type
42:14
Speaker 1: of guys or guys that you might you be end
42:18
Speaker 1: up using to gain an extra line to make those
42:20
Speaker 1: calls before the cut. I guess trade calls right right
42:25
Speaker 1: before they you're gonna you're you're gonna try to work
42:28
Speaker 1: something out like that on a Friday, And sometimes why
42:30
Speaker 1: they get delayed a little bit an announcement too, is
42:33
Speaker 1: there is there doing until right before the deadline. I
42:36
Speaker 1: want to find question for Jeff and talking to the
42:39
Speaker 1: coaches and talking to people around the team. Right before
42:41
Speaker 1: free agency, there was really a thought that the hidden
42:45
Speaker 1: area of improvement this year that people wouldn't talk about
42:48
Speaker 1: was gonna be special teams that they didn't feel like
42:50
Speaker 1: they were nearly good enough there last year and if
42:53
Speaker 1: they felt like that would be an area where they
42:55
Speaker 1: could make a huge stride from what you've seen, have
42:57
Speaker 1: they done it? I think they have. And uh, as
43:02
Speaker 1: long as Josh Lambeau you know, stays stays to for him,
43:05
Speaker 1: I mean because last year he was really good in
43:08
Speaker 1: terms of they felt like their coverage, they returns that
43:11
Speaker 1: they could have gotten more out of those core four
43:13
Speaker 1: air Yeah, I think that. I think the coverage teams
43:15
Speaker 1: will be better. I mean, Nas Paul and Cody. Cody
43:18
Speaker 1: is really good. Cody Davis safety. Okay, when you watch
43:22
Speaker 1: punt team this week, and I'm assuming they're all gonna play,
43:26
Speaker 1: they're not all, but these guys the Jaguars have Cody
43:30
Speaker 1: Davis at one gunner and then they have DJ Chart Jr.
43:34
Speaker 1: At the other, And I'm wanna tell you right now,
43:36
Speaker 1: those two guys are really good. At it, really good
43:40
Speaker 1: at it, and we haven't talked about it at all, okay,
43:43
Speaker 1: and a lot of people probably haven't even noticed that
43:45
Speaker 1: DJ Chart has been a gunner or that Cody Davis
43:48
Speaker 1: has been a gunner. These guys are gonna be two
43:51
Speaker 1: gunners to contend with. D J. Chark is gonna be
43:54
Speaker 1: a game day active guy because of his ability to
43:57
Speaker 1: play special teams and to contribute as a hunter, and
44:00
Speaker 1: also has a kickoff coverage guy. And he's got great speed.
44:03
Speaker 1: By the way, when you watch kickoff coverage, if Cody
44:06
Speaker 1: Davis was playing, he usually has about seven or eight
44:08
Speaker 1: yards on everybody else. I don't know how fast this
44:11
Speaker 1: guy is, okay, but it doesn't matter on game day.
44:15
Speaker 1: He's the fastest on kickoff coverage. Every team talks about
44:18
Speaker 1: wanting to be good there, but this team really, uh yeah,
44:22
Speaker 1: money where its mouth was this offseason. It sounds like
44:25
Speaker 1: there's a big steak in your future tonight in Tampa.
44:32
Speaker 1: You put it this way, I had the opportunity to
44:35
Speaker 1: have a steak last night, and I opted for Fish,
44:39
Speaker 1: knowing that tonight I'm probably gonna get a little carried away.
44:42
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Speaker 1: n c U A. I've think there are some guys
47:00
Speaker 1: that have made it on the final preseason game. You know,
47:03
Speaker 1: there's been some guys I know that in my past anyway,
47:05
Speaker 1: that we're that we're cut and UH came out with
47:08
Speaker 1: an unbelievable amount of stamina played every play and uh,
47:11
Speaker 1: you know, make some plays and we decided to make
47:13
Speaker 1: a you know, a different decision. And then the thing
47:16
Speaker 1: that you're playing for is a practice squad, you know.
47:18
Speaker 1: I mean you want to make sure that, uh that
47:21
Speaker 1: if you are released, there's a good possibility that you're
47:23
Speaker 1: still on the practice squad. And I think we have
47:25
Speaker 1: a number of guys that hopefully you're in that same boat.
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Speaker 1: There's Joe D. Cammillo's special teams coordinator. We caught up
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Speaker 1: that's worth Yeah, a good bit. So we'll hear from
47:59
Speaker 1: him tomorrow. It's we've had the conversation about the last
48:03
Speaker 1: chance for guys to to get on this rosters this week,
48:05
Speaker 1: and you know, it comes comes down to a lot
48:08
Speaker 1: of times that special teams as logs talked about there.
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Speaker 1: time for our deep tracks today, and this is the
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Speaker 1: deep track up the day. We'll see if John Oderkin
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Speaker 1: name this deep track before we get gone nothing. This
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Speaker 1: is Shakedown Street by The Grateful Dead seventy eight. A
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Speaker 1: bad head, not really my not really my thing. I
49:22
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49:26
Speaker 1: Don't mind those he can't, I mean, I respect the A.
49:31
Speaker 1: What did Jerry Garcia so once say? Um, we're kind
49:34
Speaker 1: of like licorice. Some people like liquorice, some people don't.
49:38
Speaker 1: But if you like licorice, you really like liquorice. And
49:41
Speaker 1: if you like the dead, you really like the dead.
49:43
Speaker 1: You don't, you don't. And yeah, just not my thing,
49:46
Speaker 1: but I always liked that they existed, always liked the concept.
49:50
Speaker 1: Let's get to the deep tracks today. We'll start off
49:52
Speaker 1: with some players to to deep down the roster to watch. Well.
49:56
Speaker 1: I we'll go with mine first today and start off, Well,
49:59
Speaker 1: he's never deep down the roster. Dante Fowler Jr. You're
50:02
Speaker 1: gonna see him a lot on the field, it sounds
50:04
Speaker 1: like since he's not playing Week one and he's had
50:08
Speaker 1: limited time in camp and in the preseason and all
50:10
Speaker 1: that Tim Cook running back, you know, you get the feeling,
50:13
Speaker 1: but you know he's on the outside looking in right now.
50:16
Speaker 1: If you just do the numbers on the roster as
50:18
Speaker 1: we have the last few days, a big body running
50:21
Speaker 1: back who just hasn't had a lot of time. He's
50:23
Speaker 1: had other guys ahead of him in camp, So Tim
50:26
Speaker 1: Cook will get a lot of looks. I think in
50:28
Speaker 1: this game, Trey Herndon, we've talked about the cornerback, could
50:32
Speaker 1: be on this roster. He'll get some time in the game.
50:35
Speaker 1: What happened to Alan Lazard, undrafted rookie wide receiver. I
50:39
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of him, you know, a guy
50:42
Speaker 1: who was heralded coming in out of Iiowa State, but
50:45
Speaker 1: it's just been quiet. Yeah, this is a team right now.
50:48
Speaker 1: You saw what they did the other night there. They
50:52
Speaker 1: want to test the edges. They want to go one
50:54
Speaker 1: way and and and then go the other with speed. Uh.
51:00
Speaker 1: I just don't think he fits what they want at
51:02
Speaker 1: out of their wide receivers because at everything else that
51:05
Speaker 1: he is fast in terms of NFL speed is not him.
51:10
Speaker 1: And my final one, Michael Bennett. Is the Michael Bennett
51:13
Speaker 1: experiment over? Or is it going to continue for the
51:16
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars who was banged up to last year or so?
51:20
Speaker 1: He's healthy now, But do the numbers add up for
51:23
Speaker 1: him to make the roster. Yeah, probably the same story
51:25
Speaker 1: as as are. You know, hard to see that UH
51:30
Speaker 1: number playing in Bennett's future, but I do think he'll
51:36
Speaker 1: continue playing in the league somewhere. All right, John Osier,
51:39
Speaker 1: your deep. There's a graphic here today we will see
51:44
Speaker 1: if Brent Reeber can get it up. There is Osher's
51:47
Speaker 1: deep tracks and I'm not surprised that we had a couple.
51:49
Speaker 1: And I asked Jeff about a lot of these guys
51:51
Speaker 1: that I was in my mind Herndon's on the team,
51:55
Speaker 1: but a chance to see him. Uh, you see what
51:58
Speaker 1: they like about him. I think he's a five corner
52:00
Speaker 1: and I think they like his future. They like his
52:03
Speaker 1: ability to eventually become a guy who plays a lot
52:07
Speaker 1: on game day. Maybe not this year, Fouler. For all
52:10
Speaker 1: the reasons we've discussed, um notable that Jeff was as
52:15
Speaker 1: impressed with him the other nighties was I think Dante
52:18
Speaker 1: is going to give them the same kind of year
52:20
Speaker 1: as he did last year. And I've been saying all
52:22
Speaker 1: offseason I think he's important because when this defense is great,
52:26
Speaker 1: it's swarming and you feel like they've got fifteen guys
52:30
Speaker 1: out there, not eleven. Dante's ability and his suddenness is
52:34
Speaker 1: a big reason. That's the case. You find all this
52:36
Speaker 1: trade talk of him, I don't uh you know, if
52:41
Speaker 1: somebody called and said, hey, we'll give you a first rounder.
52:44
Speaker 1: So I mean there's a price for everybody, But to
52:46
Speaker 1: think you're going to give him up just to get something, uh,
52:50
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because, as Jeff said, well, he's
52:56
Speaker 1: a sudden player that you can't get that kind of
53:00
Speaker 1: ability from and there's always sort of a rush to
53:04
Speaker 1: get rid of guys and look to the future. Well,
53:07
Speaker 1: fifteen games right now that at some point, if you're
53:10
Speaker 1: gonna keep trading for commodity, get elite level talent out
53:17
Speaker 1: of what you've got right now. Um. I also had
53:21
Speaker 1: the two linebackers that we discussed with Jeff. Uh Will
53:24
Speaker 1: Richardson is is definitely a topic I agree with Jeff.
53:28
Speaker 1: I don't think they want him necessarily playing right now
53:31
Speaker 1: if something happens to Parnell, but you've got to have
53:35
Speaker 1: him on your roster practicing all year to be ready
53:40
Speaker 1: for what they think is a bright future. Shane Win,
53:43
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, he's an interesting guy because I don't
53:48
Speaker 1: think he's going to be on the roster. I think
53:49
Speaker 1: he deserves to be in this league. Um. I think
53:53
Speaker 1: he'll play a lot, and he's a guy who if
53:57
Speaker 1: you have injuries later on and he's out there, you
54:00
Speaker 1: feel fantastic about him knowing your offense and his ability
54:04
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. I think he gets
54:06
Speaker 1: caught up in a numbers game you have with the
54:08
Speaker 1: deep tracks allworthy this week. Um, we'll find out, of
54:13
Speaker 1: course tomorrow officially who will will and will not dress
54:16
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. That will be closer to game time.
54:19
Speaker 1: As as you would suspect you, there won't be many.
54:22
Speaker 1: Strutter's baseball has some smiles. Yeah, and you know it's Uh,
54:32
Speaker 1: it's always a tricky game to cover because I get
54:35
Speaker 1: that fans see it and like, these aren't the guys
54:38
Speaker 1: we're gonna be watching. Uh, And I feel the same
54:41
Speaker 1: way as somebody covering it. You know, you're writing it.
54:43
Speaker 1: You want the storylines, a you're gonna matter for wins
54:45
Speaker 1: and losses during the season. Uh, these guys are far
54:48
Speaker 1: down on the list. But it is a game where
54:51
Speaker 1: these guys are playing out in some cases the end
54:54
Speaker 1: of their careers, in some cases the end of their seasons.
54:57
Speaker 1: And there are guys who are making the team where
55:00
Speaker 1: storylines can play out that they do wind up making
55:04
Speaker 1: an impact. So if you're really into you know everything
55:08
Speaker 1: in the Jaguars roster and you follow this thing year round,
55:11
Speaker 1: there are storylines to play out Tomorrow night, John, have
55:13
Speaker 1: a great trip, enjoy the press box food and Raymond
55:16
Speaker 1: James Stadium to barn night. It's the best in the league.
55:19
Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, yeah, it's it's the best. Number one,
55:23
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's pretty good. And don't don't underestimate the Bank. That's true.
55:31
Speaker 1: You have it, John Oser. Thanks to Jeff Logoman, Jaguars
55:34
Speaker 1: radio analysts, for joining us. Thanks for you to you
55:37
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