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Rick and Morty: The Movie · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 3: And if you have been listening this past year and
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be doing action explosion into the world movies.
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  Speaker 3: We're taking a break, just so you know.
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  Speaker 6: We felt like... We actually.
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  Speaker 3: That's the weird thing is we decided we were doing...
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  Speaker 3: the apocalyptic kind of end-of-the-world crazy movies before the world
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  Speaker 3: started to end.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 6: So we felt like.
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  Speaker 3: We needed a break. We didn't want to watch, although
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  Speaker 3: I have on my own watched a few, not really
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  Speaker 3: apocalyptic as much as, I've gone back to some zombie movies.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we're living.
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  Speaker 7: In pretty weird times.
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  Speaker 3: So I figured we'd take a break, and maybe somewhere
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  Speaker 3: down the line, if we survive, we can celebrate by
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  Speaker 3: watching some apocalyptic movies, disasters.
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  Speaker 6: Or whatever it is we're going to come back to.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't want to give up on that series,
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  Speaker 3: but we just took a time out.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like disaster movies are fun, except when the
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  Speaker 7: world you're living in is not a disaster movie.
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  Speaker 6: And that's great.
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  Speaker 7: That's all great fun, you know, until.
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  Speaker 3: If anybody was sitting around going, when are they going
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  Speaker 3: to talk about Earthquake?
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  Speaker 6: It's on the board. It's on the board. But it's
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  Speaker 6: further down the line.
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  Speaker 7: Just don't talk about it. I don't want to think
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  Speaker 7: about what's going to happen next. That's my question. I
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  Speaker 7: don't want to think about what's going to happen next.
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  Speaker 3: Because no matter what, it's more ridiculous every day.
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  Speaker 7: And the rock won't be there to fix things.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, the rock wasn't in Poseidon. He didn't fix
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  Speaker 6: anything in Poseidon.
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  Speaker 7: Although if he'd been in, he would have fixed it.
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  Speaker 3: He would have shoved himself in the hole and been like,
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  Speaker 3: flip this boat back over. And he'd be like, he
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  Speaker 3: would have plugged the hole until they got back to shore.
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  Speaker 7: The rock can't be everywhere at one time.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 6: He's got a full plate. He's like Superman.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I can't.
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  Speaker 6: Save every bus.
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  Speaker 7: So what's our what's our jam.
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  Speaker 3: So instead we we got on this crazy kick of
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  Speaker 3: how do we how do we recast these things or
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  Speaker 3: why do we recall should we recast these things or
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  Speaker 3: why are we even posing this so we've posed a
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  Speaker 3: few questions in the past that maybe nobody wanted the
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  Speaker 3: answers to it's okay because we didn't really answer the
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  Speaker 3: question we don't have answers But along the way, and
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  Speaker 3: it's weird because we didn't throw this one out there.
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  Speaker 3: And yet in the process, I came up with it
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  Speaker 3: and wrote down a whole scenario for it.
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  Speaker 7: And it totally fits.
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  Speaker 3: And when I got here, you brought it up. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, damn, we both came up with the
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  Speaker 3: same dumb idea. So the question is, and first let
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  Speaker 3: me state, I don't think this is a good idea
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  Speaker 3: at all. But if you made a Rick and Morty
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  Speaker 3: movie live action.
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  Speaker 6: Who do you cast?
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  Speaker 3: And how does this movie go? I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: terrible idea, first and foremost.
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  Speaker 6: Wait, wait, wait. Let's pose the question.
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  Speaker 7: So it's a terrible idea because it's basically just like
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  Speaker 7: if you were going to recast... you know.
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  Speaker 3: That's my question how far in before you realize that
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  Speaker 3: yeah like because i think i'd watched one or two
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  Speaker 3: and i was like i got a little twinge but
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  Speaker 3: i was like oh no this is just again i
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  Speaker 3: think the more you get the sense of humor of
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  Speaker 3: the show you realize this is all a play on
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  Speaker 3: like it's weird enough don't get me wrong i think
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  Speaker 3: back to the future is amazing and damn near perfect
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  Speaker 3: But even as a kid, I was like, why is
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  Speaker 3: this teenager hanging out with this old man?
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  Speaker 6: So that's a weird scenario of itself.
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  Speaker 7: And even in the most misanthropic thing.
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  Speaker 3: You're just going over to a creepy old man's house
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  Speaker 3: if you want to think about it too much, which
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  Speaker 3: I don't because I like Back to the Future. But
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  Speaker 3: in a perverted world where Rick and Morty happens, you
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  Speaker 3: can question and go down any dark rabbit hole you want,
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  Speaker 3: and you still won't get near as dark and twisted
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  Speaker 3: as the actual Rick and Morty.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, which, you know, which it's a great show. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 7: I can't, I, I thought I heard about it and
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  Speaker 7: thought it was great and kept thinking like, that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 7: And then we stumbled on it and I was like,
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  Speaker 7: oh my God, I'm obsessed. And I don't think you
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  Speaker 7: can recast it as something. But it's funny to frame
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  Speaker 7: it in that idea of the original situation, which was
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  Speaker 7: pretty much Dan Harmon's idea of a twisted.
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  Speaker 3: It's already a bastardized version of that. So that's why
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  Speaker 3: you have to throw out those two options. But then
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  Speaker 3: it's like, okay, so if we're now doubling back around,
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  Speaker 3: trying to do a live action version of this horrendous
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  Speaker 3: thing going on on screen, and don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 3: it's genius, but It goes down some dark road. So
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  Speaker 3: what funny option do we come up with to shove
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  Speaker 3: humans in there?
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  Speaker 6: I have one.
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  Speaker 4: So I was checking this out and apparently Reddit has
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  Speaker 4: an entire.
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  Speaker 6: Long, long list of this. Of course it does.
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  Speaker 4: And my favorite one so far that I've read is
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  Speaker 4: Peter Capaldi and Michael Cera.
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  Speaker 6: See, that was my first go-to. And I kind of
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  Speaker 6: like that.
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  Speaker 8: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, like in previous of these episodes, sometimes,
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  Speaker 3: in fact, most of my Mortys are like time-traveling versions.
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  Speaker 3: You certainly can't do Michael Cera now, but season one,
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  Speaker 3: Arrested Development, is perfect.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, it's perfect.
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  Speaker 6: Perfect as Morty.
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  Speaker 7: But if you take that, you could also say that.
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  Speaker 3: Tobey Maguire?
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  Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, his dad.
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  Speaker 6: Tobey Maguire's dad?
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  Speaker 2: Uncle Ben?
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  Speaker 3: That's not his dad. No. This is the.
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  Speaker 7: Thing that happens when I talk about stuff. We talk
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  Speaker 7: about things and I lose the name. The guy.
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  Speaker 2: Morty?
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  Speaker 6: With the eyes and legs.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 6: Morty's dad.
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  Speaker 7: Who's dad?
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  Speaker 6: Who are you talking about?
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  Speaker 7: Michael Ceron, Risk Development.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, good lord.
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  Speaker 6: He was in Game Night. I love that movie. Mallory's brother.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Jason Bateman.
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  Speaker 6: Jason Bateman.
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  Speaker 2: God.
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  Speaker 7: Jason Bateman would actually make a great, like, you know, the.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Who are you? Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: What are you doing with Jason Bateman?
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  Speaker 6: As Morty.
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  Speaker 7: As Morty?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 7: As Rick Sanchez.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 6: As Rick Sanchez?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I would pick him. Wow. Who would be Morty?
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  Speaker 6: That is a very different. Who would be Morty to Rick?
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  Speaker 7: Michael Cera.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 7: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: This is a.
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  Speaker 6: Weird choice for Rick.
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  Speaker 9: Well.
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  Speaker 3: It is a weird choice for Rick.
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  Speaker 6: I've got a few weird choices. You can't do Michael
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  Speaker 6: Cera for Morty.
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  Speaker 7: They have the same relationship.
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  Speaker 3: No. Yeah, they do.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they do.
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  Speaker 3: And are you doing old, like first season version of
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  Speaker 3: him and current day version of Jason Bateman?
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  Speaker 7: I'm doing first season Michael Cera.
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  Speaker 3: First season both of them?
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  Speaker 7: First season Michael Cera. Late season Jason Bateman.
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  Speaker 3: But not now?
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Not like Ozark?
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  Speaker 3: I love Ozark.
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  Speaker 6: Jason Bateman.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe. Maybe, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Jason Bateman would have never come on my radar.
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  Speaker 6: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Because he's got that same.
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  Speaker 7: He can have that same contained.
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  Speaker 3: But are we still going with... I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 3: other thing. Looking at the... Rick Sanchez plays as a
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  Speaker 3: really old crazy man. But his daughter's not that old. Like, again,
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  Speaker 3: he's maybe, what, 50s? Like, he just happens to have
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  Speaker 3: crazy white hair.
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  Speaker 6: She's like in her 40s. She's not in her 40s.
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  Speaker 7: She's like late, mid-30s.
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  Speaker 6: I would say 30s. They have a family, so they're
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  Speaker 6: in their 30s or 40s. Yeah, probably 30s. So he's
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  Speaker 6: at least 60 or so.
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  Speaker 7: No, he's like mid-50s.
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  Speaker 6: There's no way.
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  Speaker 7: But they make him look like he's insane.
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  Speaker 6: He's like late 50s.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Rick Sanchez?
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  Speaker 6: But he could be.
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  Speaker 7: Rick Sanchez is not much.
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  Speaker 6: But he also could be 70.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know.
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  Speaker 6: We don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But I think he could easily be mid to late 50s.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he could be. Depending on how young
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  Speaker 6: the daughter is.
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  Speaker 7: I think he's an easy 60.
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  Speaker 6: And that's not old.
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  Speaker 4: How about if I can do a little typecasting, we'll
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  Speaker 4: have Benedict Cumberbatch as Rick Sanchez.
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  Speaker 6: Interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting. See, but that's where I was going before. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, so then are we trying to play up
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  Speaker 3: the old man version for whoever we cast, and we
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  Speaker 3: put them in crazy white hair wigs?
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  Speaker 6: Somewhere in between, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Because several of mine need a crazy wig to be
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  Speaker 3: able to pull this off.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, so you guys, are you going more with the
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  Speaker 7: humanistic version of Rick Sanchez, or are you going with the.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going with the, as presented on screen, crazy-ass Rick Sanchez.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't really want to change the way that
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  Speaker 3: it works. I still want it to kind of operate
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  Speaker 3: like the current version, but trying to force.
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  Speaker 6: A live actor to do this.
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  Speaker 4: And you have to have an actor that can deliver
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  Speaker 4: that kind of rapid fire delivery.
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  Speaker 6: It's almost like, again, my marriage was manic.
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  Speaker 3: Like he's not, he's not, because there were other actors
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  Speaker 3: that I'm like, no, I don't think they can pull
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  Speaker 3: it off. There's like a weird, like confidence to him
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  Speaker 3: obviously and being super smart and knowing it and not
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  Speaker 3: giving a shit what anybody else thinks but there's also
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  Speaker 3: like a manicness to the way that he does.
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  Speaker 7: Things so who do you think that is what's your i.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't like everybody that came up with morty was like
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  Speaker 3: old versions like i don't have a modern day again
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  Speaker 3: i was trying to think back of all the young
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  Speaker 3: boy i was trying to think of all the young
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  Speaker 3: actors that we came i guess we got a pull
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  Speaker 3: from stranger things or it but i was trying to
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  Speaker 3: think of the ones that we came up with for
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  Speaker 3: battle of the planets Because it's kind of around that
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  Speaker 3: same age range. I still didn't really come up with
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  Speaker 3: any good options. But all of my, I came up
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  Speaker 3: with some pretty good Ricks. All of my Mortys were, again,
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  Speaker 3: like if you're pulling the Michael Cera old time card,
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  Speaker 3: you got to go with, well, I guess Jesse Eisenberg
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  Speaker 3: could kind of do.
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  Speaker 6: A version of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But only at that same era when he was
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  Speaker 3: like 19, maybe not now. The one that I forgot
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  Speaker 3: all about and I was just like, hey, what the
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: hell happened to him?
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  Speaker 6: How come we can't cast him.
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  Speaker 3: When he was like 12 years old? Frankie Muniz.
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  Speaker 6: I think he could have pulled that off. I don't
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  Speaker 6: know who that is.
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  Speaker 3: Malcolm in the Middle. First couple of seasons of Malcolm
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  Speaker 3: when he's still pretty young before he hit the weird
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  Speaker 3: awkward teenage years. That would have been an interesting Morty.
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  Speaker 6: I could see that.
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  Speaker 7: But here's the thing. I think that you cast for
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  Speaker 7: the younger look but you also have to have the
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  Speaker 7: person that's able to capture that like less naive thing
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  Speaker 7: because it becomes like oh i'm gonna hang out and
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  Speaker 7: then it becomes this like twisted thing if he's.
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  Speaker 3: Like which the michael's tarot one kind of works like
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  Speaker 3: he starts super naive and then you kind of get
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  Speaker 3: the feeling like especially even in rest of development you
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: see he's aware of what's going on in his jacked
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  Speaker 3: up family so that's again not terrible i mean i think.
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  Speaker 7: That's a pretty good option i don't that's a really
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  Speaker 7: hard travel Right. It's a really hard thing to cast,
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  Speaker 7: and I don't know who you would possibly cast for
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  Speaker 7: either of those. I mean, it's such a crazy weird.
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  Speaker 6: Eric is way easier than Morgan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just started going through older actors, because that's
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  Speaker 3: the thing. A lot of the older ones we'd lost already.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm like, who's still around, but is that old
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  Speaker 3: enough to be able to pull off the old man thing?
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  Speaker 4: Someone on Reddit suggested John Malkovich as Rick, and I
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  Speaker 4: don't think that that's possible.
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  Speaker 6: That's pretty good, though.
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  Speaker 7: That's actually really good.
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  Speaker 4: It would be interesting, but I don't think he could
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  Speaker 4: pull off that rapid-fire delivery. He's way too deliberate in
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  Speaker 4: his delivery.
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  Speaker 6: See, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: I got the other ones that I like. a couple
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  Speaker 3: other ones that i'm like i like the actor but
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  Speaker 3: i don't think they can like they're almost too well
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  Speaker 3: spoken and too like that because rick is just that's
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: the other i was like they have to be able
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  Speaker 3: to pull off the level of wingnut crazy that like
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  Speaker 3: and also just self-assuredness in themselves and i don't give
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  Speaker 3: a shit like there's a craziness to rick that is
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  Speaker 3: like frightening in the real world so you have to
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  Speaker 3: have somebody who's just.
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  Speaker 6: All right unnerving enough.
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  Speaker 7: To be able to pull that off so i'll give
• 14:18
  Speaker 7: you my option for that i'd say like i love steve.
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  Speaker 6: Martin all right that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 7: But like in a kind kind of like wacky.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that i've ever seen him go that
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  Speaker 3: dark like i feel like you have to be able Like,
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  Speaker 3: Rick is dark.
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  Speaker 6: But I think he could do it.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I think he's an old comedic actor. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think I've ever seen him, even in stuff that's a
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  Speaker 3: little more straight, I've never seen him do anything that's
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  Speaker 3: that mean-spirited.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That you need a vein of that running through, Rick.
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  Speaker 3: The one that I came up with that was, like,
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  Speaker 3: one of the first ones I was like, actually? Especially now,
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  Speaker 3: because he is kind of old and crazy looking?
• 14:59
  Speaker 7: Al Pacino.
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  Speaker 6: Al Pacino.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 3: Scenery chewing level Al Pacino. Now with the, he's got
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  Speaker 3: the old man look going now. If you watch him
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  Speaker 3: in stuff.
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  Speaker 6: He's getting up there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we left him in.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that series? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean, he can.
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  Speaker 6: The Hunters or whatever. The Hunters, yeah. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: He can do way over the top. Yeah, he can. So,
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  Speaker 3: you kind of let him run.
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  Speaker 6: That's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: Most of it, I think you almost have to let
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  Speaker 3: them go crazy with this role.
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  Speaker 6: Because you can't be reserved in playing Rick. I've got
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: some others for you.
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  Speaker 7: But wait a minute. So I think that's true. And
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  Speaker 7: I love how he's been in that series. But well,
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: I guess I want to like Rick more than I
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: probably should.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's true in general.
• 15:44
  Speaker 7: That's hard.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what you start to take away. If you
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: watch multiple episodes, you're like, I like Rick.
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: I shouldn't like Rick.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Right. Rick is a horrible person.
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: Rick doesn't like Rick.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Like once in a while, there's a redeeming moment. And
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: even then, they usually double back and just stick you
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: in the gut.
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Like even when you think it's a redeeming moment.
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: There's that one per season episode where Rick gets dark
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: and he's like, oh God, I'm terrible.
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: It gets really dark.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Or there's once in a while where he really does
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: come to the conclusion that he loves his grandkids or something.
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: Or his daughter. But rarely.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: Rarely.
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: And that's the thing. Sometimes I'll look at it and
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: I'm like, man, I get it. I so want to
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: be like, I so get that relationship with his daughter.
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: I have some good.
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: And it's like, that is the moment.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I have some good Rick options. I haven't seen many
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Morty options yet, but these are good Rick options.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I have a bunch of Ricks.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: Hugh Laurie.
• 16:40
  Speaker 8: No.
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: Did not think of that one. Willem Dafoe.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: No.
• 16:45
  Speaker 10: Maybe.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: Steve Buscemi.
• 16:46
  Speaker 10: No.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: Maybe, yeah. He's got good delivery.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: He can do the look.
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: He can do the look and the delivery.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: Jeff Goldblum.
• 16:55
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: But I still like him.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: Well, it's just hard to not be Jeff Goldblum.
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: Well, he's Jeff Goldblum being Rick.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: He plays into his own persona now, which would be
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: hard to do and play Rick.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: Billy Bob Thornton.
• 17:11
  Speaker 10: Nope.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: No.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: I could actually see him. I could actually see Billy
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: Bob Thornton do it.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Because I like.
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: Rick, I don't like Billy Bob Thornton.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: But he can play.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: Your own prejudices. He can play pretty varied versions.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Sometimes he's sort of a good guy, and sometimes he's
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: just an out-and-out bad guy.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: I could see the dynamic coming through on Billy Bob Thornton.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: I would pick.
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: I.
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: Just read a really weird one.
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: Steve Carell.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: That's weird.
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: With someone?
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: Steve Carell. No, because Steve Carell has this like.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but is there a counter to Steve Carell's... These
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: are my ricks.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: Rick, okay. Steve Carell. Okay.
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: John Malkovich I can kind of see.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: However... See, I can't see John Malkovich. I can, his delivery.
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: And he'd have to like speed it up.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: I don't think he's capable. I don't... Alright, how about this?
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: I love this. Idris Elba and Sean Astin. Yeah!
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: I think it's fantastic.
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: Idris Elba hits on the same problem I have with
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: John Malkovich is like, it's this very calm.
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's too reserved.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: Like, I've never seen him be that unhinged to play.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: It would be an interesting stretch for them. Again, I
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: think he's a good actor, so I would watch it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: I don't know how it would turn out.
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think, like, Timothy Olyphant could do it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: Timothy Olyphant would be great.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: You're going so much younger. Like, I started diving into
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: Crazy Old Man.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, no.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: And I got, like, James Woods. I got Richard Dreyfuss.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: No.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: Current day, crazy old man. That's not bad. That's not bad.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Also because he's got like an uncaring edge to him.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Like he's played characters that are that cold.
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: But I feel like that character was written towards those...
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: That influence.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: But that's what I'm trying to, yeah, that's what I'm like,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: how do you take what's going on with Rick in
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: the animated form and find somebody that can pull off
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: that presence and still pull off that dynamic of being
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: self-assured and smart and completely cold-blooded when need be?
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I think my favorite Rick option via Reddit is Ian McShane.
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: Oh, I love Ian McShane.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Because of the delivery and his ability to just rapid-fire
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: throw shit out there and be believable.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: With Ian McShane is I keep going back to like
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: his dyed black hair and I can't well.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: That's the thing I got the one that like I
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: didn't think of I saw it just on a list
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: of actors and I went no because he doesn't again
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: he is the age he doesn't really come off the
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: same crazy old age and But then I was like, ooh,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: performance though, Alec Baldwin.
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: He could do it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: Is a cold-blooded bastard. Yeah, that's pretty good. And I'm like,
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: I could see.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Like, if you give him the white hair and let
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: him just dive into the darkness that is kind of
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: really Alec Baldwin. Like, even real world, we've seen some pretty, like,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: dark shit.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: That's pretty good.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: So, I was like.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: So, I think what we've decided is that there are
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: plenty of great options for Rick.
• 20:37
  Speaker 10: Oh, yeah.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: But there are not many great options for Morty.
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: We may not know them. That's the thing.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Especially if we're going the more teenage version of Morty. Because, again,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: we're still pulling late teens.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: But it's not as dynamic of a character. I mean,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: he's a 14-year-old kid. He masturbates a lot. He's a
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: 14-year-old kid.
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: And he, you know... Well, that's pretty much it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: No, I don't think that's it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: He's also like completely unsure of himself.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: Like every teenager, but worse. So he's a typical teenager.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but I don't read him as that age. Like
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: I see him as much older. Like I see him
• 21:19
  Speaker 7: as like 20s and 30s. So he's a 20 and
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: 30 year old person stuck in a teenager's body because
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: of all the experiences with his.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: Dimensional travel.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: And his grandfather and all that. So it's like, you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: it's like, who do you find that is like that
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: teenage version of what?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Again, I was just, the same thing we've gone to.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, let me just bring up the
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: cast of It. Bill from It. I have not.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: That Jaden Martell kid. The new version of it? Just
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: looking at it. Yeah, just looking at him.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I was like, that's... That's not bad.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: To me, it's like this Woody Allen perception.
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: That's not a bad Morty, visual-wise.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: And even in it, at that first movie, he plays
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: him very unsure, very freaked out by everything, but still
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: kind of going along with it because he has to,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: which is exactly what Morty does.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like, that's not terrible. Play Snake Jazz. Play
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: Snake Jazz. Yeah, but I think that.
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: There's like this weird... Woody Allen era history of.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Which I know everybody hates Woody Allen.
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: Creepy? No, it's not him. I'm not talking about Woody Allen.
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: I'm talking about the characters that he writes.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: But you're trying to bring that persona to Rick or Morty? Morty. Yeah,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: it's the self-conscious... Like the stand-up comedy era version of
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Woody Allen. Still unsure of himself.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: But younger.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Conscious, yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Even though he still kind of looked 40. He was
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: like 20, but he kind of looked 40. Yeah, he's
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: never looked whatever. Yeah, I mean, I get that. But again,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: at that point, you're just casting, like, Eisenberg. Like, a
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: young version of Eisenberg. I don't know if that's true,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: because I don't think of him. I always felt like
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: that was one of those. Like, you could just, what
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: she's kind of done is he got to be an
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: old man in directing. He started bringing in guys that
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: kind of talked like him or had his, like, I think, again,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: especially Eisenberg, when he started off, could have easily been
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: the lead in every Woody Allen movie and, like, kind
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: of would work. Again, I don't know. I don't want
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: that dynamic, but I don't feel like that's as far off.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know that that could compete.
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I don't think I was saying that
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: that's the dynamic. I'm just saying that that's the delivery.
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, delivery, but not the way he looks at things.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: I don't know, Rick.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's not.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure, Rick. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: I mean, there are a lot of ways that you
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: could do it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, Morty has to
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: be an insecure teenager.
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: That's just all there is to it. But you can
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: portray that a number of different ways. But will it work?
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Going to the other young cast, the Will from Stranger Things.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Not terrible visually.
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: Not terrible.
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: Again, like performance, it's pretty different, but I mean, that's, yeah,
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: that's not bad.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: So Noah's shrap, snap, something.
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: You know, there's so many things I love about that,
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: that just would never work as a real. I don't,
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's, it's this absurd animated thing and you
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: don't have to make it work in a, Real life scenario.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: But we do because we saddled ourselves with this.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: But actually, I kind of like it at that young
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: because I think that's part of what's so horrifying as
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: you get into this is that Morty is a kid.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: And he's continually being forced to do all these things
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: that he knows is horrible and The more it goes on,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: the more it kind of wears on him that it's like, why.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: Do we keep doing this?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: So it doesn't play the same on a 20-year-old actor
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: as it would somebody in their teens.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because one of my favorite things is when he's like,
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: I saw us bury ourselves. And you're like, that is
• 25:27
  Speaker 7: heavy and dark. And it's like, I don't know how
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: you handle that. As a 12-year-old, you can dismiss it briefly.
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: But beyond that and before that, you're like, You know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: this is fucked up.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: It's a bit more on the serious side of things.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Like when, like the first season that they did of
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Doctor Who in the 60s, you know, the Doctor is this.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: Old guy, this crazy old dude.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Doctor, scientist, and there's this young girl who gets involved and,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: and her entire world is completely turned upside down.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: It's the same, same dynamic.
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: Having never touched on like how somebody's life is left
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: totally screwed.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: And, and she becomes this very mature, you know, teenager
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: or young adult, you know.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: As a, as a, as a result.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: And, and, And to that point, I think maybe it
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: might be interesting to see the Morty.
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: Character as a female. Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's all.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: And, you know, that might make.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: Well, I think that's.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Rather than being, you know, you know, caged into the.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Morty being a male thing.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, Summer could be a male. I mean, there's
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: a lot of different ways you could do that.
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: That's a role that Summer kind of serves. And I,
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: I've always felt that because I feel like Summer's always like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: I'm happy to go with you, you know, and that,
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: that she makes it a point to be like, I
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: can do this shit too.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: And she does. And she does.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: And it's kind of worse and crueler.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But she's also older, you know.
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: She's got a little more.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Uh, She's got a little harder heart in that scene.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: A couple of times.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Especially in like, there is like a weird dynamic of
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: her being left out. Like I do like as we
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: get to like the third season and they work her
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: in more, but there is like that middle area where
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: she realizes how much time these two are spending together.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: And she's like, why not me? Like, why am I always.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Being left out?
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: And then she actually kind of ends up being the
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: better partner in those like fucked up situations where.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: So, throw out some more crazy old people.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: This, again, this is one I didn't think of because
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: he still doesn't read quite.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: That old, but he is. Woody Harrelson.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: He can commit to crazy.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: I like that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Oh, man, that's good.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: He can commit to crazy.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's really good.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: I like that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: And that's a weird thing.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: And dark.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Like, I can see him being able to take it
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: as dark as it needs to go if need be.
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, that would be good.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Not bad.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: So who would be.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: I love that. I love Woody Harrelson.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: So let's assume that Woody Harrelson has it, and he
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: is playing Rick. Who is playing Rick's daughter, the mom
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: in the.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: I can't remember the character's name.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: See, I didn't go too far down the oven.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Or Jerry. Jerry's Jerry.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: And honestly, I think Jerry's perfect at the moment.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: But how do you find a normal living human being
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: that can pull off Jerry?
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: I think you keep Jerry as who he is.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Jerry's animated?
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: No, no, no. That's what I'm saying, though.
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: We still have to have an actor. Like the guy
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: that plays Jerry.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: Oh, like Parnell.
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's not, again, he is pretty close in the
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: real world to how Jerry is or comes off that way,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: at least in his performances. Is that Dr.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: Spichemin?
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: Yes, Dr.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: Spichemin. Yeah.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I guess that is putting no work in it, but
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: it's pretty damn good.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: So then would you put like Tina Fey as a daughter?
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think that's.
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: Hmm.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: That's actually pretty good, actually.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Did she have to wear a blonde wig? No.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: No.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Because it... I don't know.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: It doesn't read right with her hair.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: But she's got the same.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: But she's definitely got... Because that's the thing. She's also
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: got to have that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: Like, there is.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: So much built up in her. Yeah.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: That, like, she covers really well. I could buy her
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: as a horse doctor.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can kind of see Tina Fey horse doctor.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Which is also a spinoff series I'd like to see,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Tina Fey horse doctor. Horse doctor.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: But.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: There's so much mental shit pent up inside of that
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: woman that she covers for.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: That she comes off as.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Normal mom, normal housewife, normal horse doctor.
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: But at any given moment.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: When you press her, this ugly, weird shit comes back out.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Oh my god, yeah. In the last episode we watched
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: where it's like... The clones. That broke my heart. There's
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: so many.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: Moments of that. It was a very dark episode.
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: That have broken my heart.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: That's every episode. I keep realizing.
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but there's some that are worse than others.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Sometimes, but the more I get into it, sometimes I'm like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: these all have some moment where it's like, jeez.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: There's just no hope. It is a dark series.
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: It is dark in that I was like, oh my God,
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: that breaks my heart. But, you know, it kind of
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: leaves you in that position where you're like, what what
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: matters beth right like that is as like an adopted
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: daughter that made me like what matters right but when
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: you get back and you look at it it's like
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: that is a perfect example of like how people react
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: like we're all in these weird situations where we're the
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: lesser or the greater and you don't know what that.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: Means until you're thrust into a scenario.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: I'm Pickle Rick!
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: This is a dill pickle, a mighty pretty pickle, especially
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: when he joins you at the show. We have lots
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: of pretty pickles waiting for you at the refreshment center.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: They're plump, tender, mouth-watering. Wouldn't one taste good right now?
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: So, if you've been listening to the last couple of weeks,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: you might have noticed I'm not even taking a commercial break.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: This is an experiment on its own. I kind of
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: wanted to see what it's like to just throw it
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: all in one big shot, rambling for a long time.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: But also because we're not dealing with our previous sponsor
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: at the moment, wherever.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: So, that, I won't go into.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: The specifics, but it was a call that needed to
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: be made, and we all agree. So.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: What i was thinking was because i i've looked into
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: kind of other sponsors potentially maybe but the more i
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: thought about i was like i really don't it'd be
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: so much better if we didn't have to rely on
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: anyone and we could just kind of do it ourselves
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: and by ourselves i mean everybody like those of you
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: listening right now so um i was gonna put out
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: a specific because since Since I made a small announcement
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: saying we didn't have a sponsor, and within that week,
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: I had somebody kind of step up and join the
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: horror club and be like, hey, okay, let's get on
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: board now. And they'd been putting it off for a
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: while because they even told me. They were like, I'm
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: going to do it. I'm going to do it. And
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: then this, I guess, maybe helps be like, oh, maybe
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: they need some help keeping this thing going. So I
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: thought that was... I was going to put out a
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: post that was just like, hey, if we... get people
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: on board with the Horror Club, we don't even have
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: to go looking for a sponsor. I'd much rather, like,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I don't even think we need that many people to
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: kind of compensate. There wasn't that much coming from them.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: So I would be glad to overtake what they were
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: doing with, you know, fan involvement and listeners and just
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: get people on board with the club instead. So that's
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: a good reason to join the club anyways, to kind
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: of get rid of sponsors.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: I'm not saying.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: If this doesn't happen, we can still find another one,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: but I'd like to do it this way if possible.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: So I say go to MovieMeltdown.com, look for that Patreon link,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: look for that Horror Club link, and you can join
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: up right now. For like two bucks, you can save
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: the show and keep us from playing ads if this
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: goes well. So that's the plan. Then we also came
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: up with a new addition. As an extra promo, because
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I've been toying with this ridiculous idea for a while now.
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: So, extra tie-in.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: We're going to kind of do a promo and start
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: this new series?
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: We can return to it as regular as we'd like to. So,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: in coming up with ridiculous titles for things like I
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: need to do for all of our running series, this
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: one we can go with The Meltdown Horror Club Presents
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: 20 Ways to Die. So, die is the extra there's
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: an extra geek on the.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: Die you know when you explain this concept to me
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: i did not see and that's what i.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Was like it's not just horror themed it's also dorky
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: so um we were every pick up on that because
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: i don't want to be the only one here puns
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: we're all about puns so the the yeah the idea
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: i've been toying with anyway because we always have like
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: our um Before the show conversations, weeks ahead of time,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: we're like, the hell are we going to watch? Which
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: is what all geeks are going through. You're always trying
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: to figure out what you want to watch next. So
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: with us, we're just randomly picking things. Sometimes whatever's streaming,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: sometimes news, sometimes, I don't know, random. I don't know
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: where some of these have come from sometimes. There's a few.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I question why the hell we watched it at all.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: But it's just random now. Whereas I was like, what
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: if we came up with a system thing? or a process,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: and that way, number one, it would take it out
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: of our hands most of the time. We can still
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: throw in a specific one if we have a reason to.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: So the die gimmick is we're going to have a
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: 20-sided die for all the extra bonus points of geekery
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: out there, and then assign a horror movie to each
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: of those sides. And then at the end of each episode,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: we can roll the dice, die if you will, And
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: tell you what the next movie is that comes up
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: on the list. And then the Horror Club tie-in is
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: that we're going to do a promo right now. We're
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: trying to get people on board anyway, as previously stated.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: So we'll say we're trying to get 20 new people
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: on board. So for the next 20 people that come
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: on board at any level, I'm thinking down the line
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: it might be a little higher up on the tiers,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: but for right now, intro promo, the next 20 people
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: that come on board at any level, starting at $ 2,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: you can come on You can put a horror movie
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: on the list and then it will be in the
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: running every time we roll the dice. Yours might be
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: next on the list. So that's our fun new, I
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's a game, process. Pick movies for us, please.
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: Please, yes.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: And you can, again, I was checking with them. I'm like,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: you guys are willing to watch whatever, right? Because this
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: could be a terrible idea, really. God knows what they
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: could pick for us to watch.
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: Or we could see some great stuff that we never
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: would have known about.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Or some bad stuff. That's kind of what I want
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to put. If we're going to have the fine print
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: on this, I kind of don't want... super mainstream, giant movie.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I'm like, don't pick Halloween. Don't pick Candyman. Don't pick
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: stuff that every horror fan's already seen. Find something that
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: most people haven't heard of or find something that you
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: love but never really got a big reception from anyone else.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I think that would be a more interesting way is
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: to get a lot of weird random movies and stuff
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: that we probably on our own wouldn't have come across.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: That's another good way to get new input from other
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: people and different stuff on the list. So that's, yeah,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I say number one, don't pick big mainstream horror movies
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: that everybody's already heard of and has seen. And I'm
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: going to go ahead and throw in a line somewhere
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: here that's like, if you're involved in any way with
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: the movie, don't put that on there. I feel like
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: that's a weird loophole.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: For people to be like, talk about my movie on
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: your show.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, we're going to check the credits here.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: If you're directing, writing, acting, any level of involvement in
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: this movie, don't. Yeah, that's a whole other type of show.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: So just pick some random horror movies that you like personally,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: put them on the list, and then we'll work them in.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: That's our plan. That's what we're going with. 20 Ways
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: to Die. So if you haven't joined yet, just go
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: to MovieMeltdown.com and look on the right-hand side of the
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: page and click where it says Join the Meltdown Horror Club.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Then you'll get all of our exclusive episodes as we
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: delve into frightening films, both old and new. So come on,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: you can be part of the club and keep this
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: terror train running. Thank you.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, at any given point, we have to.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Shove any female role at Scarlett Johansson.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: So.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Thing is, again, I think she's a good enough actress.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: It's her hair color.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: You can do damn near everything. It's her hair color.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: You're just talking about her hair color. The hair is
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: making it even easier for me to picture that. But again,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think of somebody who can pull
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: off the polished version of the character that she wants
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: to present to the world versus this messed up kid
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: that got left by her dad that keeps coming back out.
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because like, you know, Beth is Beth and Rick
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: is Rick, right? Morty is the.
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: Idealized version of rick and summer is the idealized version
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: of beth so it's like what is that how does
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: that fit.
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: In i love tina fey as beth.
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: But you know what i'm saying like you can look
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: at those two characters and be like okay so this
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: is you know the reduced version right i gotcha well
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: And then there's Jerry, and there's nothing to match Jerry.
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: So it's like these two and these two, and then
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: you go down and there's just this.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: So are we still operating from Woody Harrelson as Rick?
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Because I think that's great. I think Woody Harrelson would.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: Do really good. One of the better, yeah.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: What about Bill Murray?
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Oh. Yeah, he is a crazy old man now, so
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: that's not a far stretch.
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: He's older than I would normally think we'd go for that.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: But again, Rick, as a cartoon, reads relatively old.
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: And you really don't know what age he is. He
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: could have married or had a child with her mom
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: at whatever age. No, I mean, you don't know. You
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: don't know anything about Beth's side.
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, he did have sex with a planet, so.
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: Beth could be like a pod person from.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, we do not know. We don't know.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I started, again, I started trying to, like, the more
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I pulled up old guys, I started coming up with
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: actual crazy old guys. People like Nick Nolte. Crazy Nick Nolte.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: there's potential there.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah. If you can get him to show up. Crazy
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Gary Busey.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: Oh, wow.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: That's almost, like, I don't know at this point if
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: he can dial it back enough to bring the seriousness
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: No, see, maybe, but Busey is just crazy. You'd have
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: to bring his son in. He's okay.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I like that guy.
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: You know, there's some real darkness in Rick. Like, legit.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: Real darkness. Absolutely.
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: Like, the way he's written is very human.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: It's because of the responsibility of everything that he knows
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: and understands about what he's done.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: Yet he's totally screwed up on the people.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: He owes it to.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: Which is why he drinks so much. I mean, it's
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: a very complex character. That's what I was wondering.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Would they fully commit to the grossness of his face
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: for live action all the time?
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: The drooling.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Grossness.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: It's just disgusting. That's a big commitment. There's times when
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: the drool sort of... It's vomitous. Yeah. It also works
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: as a soul patch.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's its own character in this story.
• 43:26
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: That one I was like, that's hard enough to take
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: in animated form. Live action, that's going to be rough.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: But I mean, I think.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: which is why I came back to Ian McShane. I
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: was like, if anybody could pull that off, it'd be
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Ian McShane.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: Just sort of like dirty, horrible, and yet eloquent and
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: be able to deliver.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: The only one I got to that was like, oh,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: we missed that opportunity. I didn't do anything that wasn't
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: living until I got to Man, Dennis Hopper would have
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: been great.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah. Crazy late era, but.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Again, super dark. Like, super... Like, the level that he
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: could do that kind of stuff. Like, yeah. That would
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: have been pretty amazing.
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: I can see that. I don't know if I'd go
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: with that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: Which part of it?
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: The Dennis Hopper part.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: But I don't know. But what.
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: That he's a guy?
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Because he was a guy. So that part. So what
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: part are you not registering with?
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: The darkness?
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Have you seen Frank Booth?
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: He can do dark. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:35
  Speaker 7: Because that's one of.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: My favorite movies.
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: He can do dark.
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: But, you know, if I was going to go from
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: that same line, I would.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: Pick the.
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: Dude that played Bob in everything in Twin Peaks.
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: Hang on.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Let me... Now that makes me think.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Rey, like her dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: He was in all kinds of things.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be good.
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: Actually, he would make a good... Rey Weiss? Leland Palmer. Yeah.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: That's not bad, because he's pretty awesome in general.
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and because he also has that weird likable that
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: also creep and old.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: Can he pull... That's the thing, like.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Is there a level of Rick that is that likable, though?
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Because even when he's being Rick, we like him, but
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: he's never... Because he could pull off, as Laura Palmer's dad,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: he could pull off All-American Dad perfectly. Perfectly.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: That I don't know that Rick ever had that much.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: Even in the flashbacks, it's kind of like, maybe.
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: The only reason I say that that's possible is because
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: I thought he was very good in Jeepers Creepers 2.
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: As the likable.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: See, but again, I don't know that Rick's ever that likable.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Like he can do the dark, like we've seen him
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: go down that road in Twin Peaks, but like he's
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: almost too likable to pull off the resting level of
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Rick that is unlikable.
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: To everyone but the audience.
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: Do you not like Rick?
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I do, but I don't think anybody around him likes Rick.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: And I think, like, we have to, we, the audience,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: are the ones that like Rick. But, like, anybody in
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: that world, does anybody, other than his weird friends from
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: other places, but nobody on Earth.
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: His daughter, she wouldn't put up with him.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: No, she still, she's got so many issues. Like, even, like,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: even Morty and Summer are. They know better. They want
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: to like him.
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: Morty has a complicated relationship and Summer just thinks it's interesting.
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: But that.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: Latter episode where we were dealing with the clone Beths.
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: Oh, God, that broke my heart.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Well, everybody says, you know, hey, Rick, you deal with
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: your own fucked up shit.
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: You know, everybody's like calling him out on it. I
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: think everybody.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Knows that he's not great by Earth standards. But he
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: has to deal with both that and the responsibility of
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: what he knows in the multiverse.
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's so screwed up. The fact that he
• 47:26
  Speaker 7: has the infinite perspective of the universe and yet makes
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: the choices that he makes. Who could do that?
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: It's really difficult.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: That's what makes him an admirable character, is that I
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: can look at him and go, oh, well, I mean.
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: And he makes the tough decisions.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: To some extent, but at the same time, as time
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: goes on in the show, I'm like.
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: You're kind of like, you're just saving your own ass,
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: and you're an asshole.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: And he's also like, because he uses his massive knowledge
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: of the universe and multi-universes... He also like that's a
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: get out of jail free card. Like he can do
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: whatever the hell he wants.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: I'll make whatever I need. And have no responsibility.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Like he doesn't worry about the consequences because he knows a.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: Way to cheat everything.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: And still like I killed my grandson, but I'll go
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: fix it.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: Like, there are no stakes to what he does.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: That's why there is a power-mad level of him that, like,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: you really have to be able to do over the
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: top to make that kind of realistic.
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: Well, and it's so weird because it's like, to me,
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: that episode where Morty says to Summer, I buried my own.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Corpse.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: Corpse.
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: It's in the backyard. It's like he's made that choice
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: to go along with Rick's crazy ass plan. When really, Rick,
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: if he knows all, then he could just set everything
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: back to how it should be. And they could all
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: have a normal life. And it could be not crazy.
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: And in an alternate reality, it has happened that way.
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: Right, but there's no... There is no alternate reality.
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: We're just not following that story. Every version of a
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: reality is going on simultaneously.
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: Everything is happening.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: And Rick bastardizes that and uses it to his advantage
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: to pull from wherever to fix whatever horrible thing he's
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: done that week. like and he knows that like again
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: there's just a level of I don't care about him
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: that like Because he knows what he knows, he knows
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: how to use that and, again, just bastardize science and
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: other worlds. Who cares about what the cost? Even to
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: the other multiverses, he does not care.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: On occasion, he still has a level of remorse about
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: certain things.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: But it's so like brief and crazy and weird.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: But that's the thing. I feel like you wouldn't keep watching.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Like if it were that dark and there was no
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: redeeming anything, then it's like, oh, it's funny. But after
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: a few episodes, you might be like, this is too much.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Like I don't want to come back where I think
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: it is that vein of every once in a while
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: when you realize like, oh, he really does kind of
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: care about Morty. in his way like you have to
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: kind of slant it a little and be like the
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: way that he can care about anyone yeah you.
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: Keep wanting to know if he really cares about his
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: family or if he only cares about his own survival
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: yeah and purposes things that he wants to do and
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: like how that relates to like having his own thing
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: i mean that's why it's like this constant thing where
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: you're just like i don't even know what universe i'm
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: in which is interesting because That they did that episode
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: that we were talking about with the train and the
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: self-referential kind of hero story.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: The feedback loop.
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was just a loop of like, you just
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: are caught in this. And there's the bigger, what was
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: the guy? The story, Mr. Story or whatever, that moved
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: the thing along.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: It's so screwed up. And you hate him. And yet
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: you're like, I'm compelled to watch. And I've never felt
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: that way about an animated thing. You know, there's things
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: that I loved about animated things, but this is like.
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: He's compelling.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think anything is ever this level of dark,
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: but also this level of like questioning itself, questioning morals,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: questioning like... It makes you kind of question things as
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: the audience. Like most animated shows, even aimed at adults,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: just don't dig that deep.
• 51:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: And this asks such huge questions that like, you know,
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: the Simpsons is written for grownups, but, and it might
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: make an interesting comment that makes you think about it
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: every once in a while, but nothing that is this big,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: nothing that makes you question your own morals.
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: Your own moral compass.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: Like what choice would you make if you knew that
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: your choices had every and no consequence?
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: No.
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: Like that's the thing.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: And, and, and also that the story, as a whole
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: is rooted in this, you know, theoretical science that, you know,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: we've all kind of touched upon with, you know, theoretical
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: physics and everything that we know today.
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: It's interesting.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: It brings up real philosophical and moral questions that, we're
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: not probably ready to answer yet as a society, but
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: we're ready to question.
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: Cause we're ready to question them.
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: But really, I mean, it does. It's like, if you
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: could make the most moral or the least moral, like
• 52:40
  Speaker 7: answer to a question. What happens if you pick both?
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I can't remember what episode.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: It's one of the last ones, but it involves the
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: invisibility belt. Have you seen the one with the invisibility belt?
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: There's a show ender after the credits run. They did
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: a show ender. What's the husband's name?
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Jerry? Jerry.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Jerry has the invisibility belt and he's like, okay, invisibility belt,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: we're done. And he throws it into the garbage and
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: then the garbage truck comes and puts it in the
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: back of the garbage truck and the whole truck disappears.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: And the guys in the truck are like, wait a minute,
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: what just happened to me?
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: And then they hit a guy.
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: No, and they jump out. They're like, oh God.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: So they jump out of the truck and then this
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: guy in a Corvette is driving along and Jerry's like, wait, stop,
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: there's an invisible garbage truck.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: And he's like, yeah, whatever. And he runs right to
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: the back of it and it explodes and disappears. And
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: then the guy was like, whoa, what just happened? And
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: then the car explodes and invisible and the guy dies.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: And then Jerry takes the garbage truck and goes on
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: this vigilante thing.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: Where he's like picking up pimps.
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: And putting them in the back of the truck.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Until he runs out of gas, which is the punchline.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: He runs out of gas and he can't find the tank. Anyway,
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: long story short, it's those moral dilemmas and the adventure
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: of you know, discovering those along the way, like the
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: new ways that you can discover them.
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: And sometimes the most moral choice you make would be
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: the best. And then other times, like it's the worst,
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: it's the worst. And then sometimes it doesn't matter. Right.
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: Like that's the thing where Morty saves the gaseous cloud.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. This is how I think the universe works. Like,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: I think it is one of those, like it looks
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: at all. It's like, we make good decisions, we make
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: bad decisions.
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: And then sometimes shit just happens.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: It like, Regardless of what you want from it, regardless
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: of what outcome it's going to have for you or
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: other people, it's like, I think it kind of addresses
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: all of those things on different episodes. Yes.
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: Sometimes if we consciously make an effort, it is the
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: worst possible decision we can make.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: And occasionally your best effort to help someone does, and
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: sometimes it does not matter.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: And horrible things still happen.
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: That's interesting. Here's the big question that I hadn't thought
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: about until we got midway into this. So we figured
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: out some casting options. Who's directing this movie?
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: Oh, God.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: This kind of a story, how do you just give it?
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: You can't just turn it over to random anybody.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: I think if we've established anything at this point, it's
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: that Jon Favreau should be directing it.
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: Um.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I won't put anything past him. I like
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: some Jon Favreau, but that's a very different direction than
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: anything he's done.
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: Well, I would say who I think, but you all
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: would go, meh, and you would go, meh.
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: All right, get ready to meh.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Who is it?
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: Take a guess.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know who it is.
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: Waiting, waiting.
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: Go for it.
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: Do a no. Really? Yeah.
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: You've got a... A go-to director that I would think.
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, for like weird shit.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: That can do a good job.
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: Brett Radner. No! Your beloved director.
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: What?
• 56:37
  Speaker 10: No!
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: You made his guess.
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: It's your own fault. Go, Moeller. I don't have anything.
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: Taika Waititi.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: Definitely gets the sense of humor.
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: Taika Waititi could do that.
• 56:51
  Speaker 10: Hmm.
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to decide if he gets.
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: Again, most of his stuff definitely has a twisted sense
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: of humor.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Does it ever go that dark? Even in what we
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: do in the shadows, maybe Jojo Rabbit.
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's the thing. It's not the ability to
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: go dark. It's the ability to also pull in the sweetness.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, to ride the line and say, oh, this is a.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Story about a grandfather and his grandchildren and their beloved
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: story as they tear the entire universe apart.
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: The fabric of the universe and what that means.
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: That could be sold. I could picture that.
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: And I guess that's what I love about... You.
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: Said I'd mwah you.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Meh.
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: I thought everybody would mwah me.
• 57:40
  Speaker 10: No.
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: But I really think you could do a good job
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: of that.
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: I appreciate that.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: He's just super talented anyway, so.
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's got a good.
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: And it's also like, that's the thing.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: I'm pulling from bigger directors, but they're also so much
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: older that they're going to take a different, it's a
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: totally different take on it, where he's up and coming enough,
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: like it's still kind of in that same running as
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: where Rick and Morty is now.
• 58:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Because it would be weird to like, what's Scorsese's take
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: on Rick and Morty?
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: It would be like the weird, dark thing.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going to be dark, but I don't know
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: that you could pull off the other end of it.
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: And only like I think there's plenty of other like
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: women that could do it but I also think of
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: him as having something to do with like Thor you
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: know so he's had the idea of other worlds other
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: dimensions and also having to work in the J.J.
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: Abrams I don't think J.J.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: Abrams would make a good based on the reference earlier
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: how about Bong Joon-ho Snowpiercer.
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well.
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: Snowpiercer director. As twisted as Parasite is.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: No! He can bring a weird, random edge to it.
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: But I need that sweetness. And I think Taika Waititi
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: is good at catching.
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: He definitely has that. I think what I've seen, what
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: little I've.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: Seen of Bong juho if he has that in him
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: and i to me.
• 59:06
  Speaker 10: The sweetness like i think there is no like parasite
• 59:09
  Speaker 10: like the moments between like the brother and sister like
• 59:11
  Speaker 10: there's definitely like that's that's definitely got that's not a
• 59:15
  Speaker 10: horrible option either really it's.
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: Not a bad option but also that weird just kind
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: of uh You know, it's not so direct with some
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: of his things, with Taika Waititi's things. Like, it's kind
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: of unexpected, and it's not as.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Okay, now I'm thinking, what if we hand off, now
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: that we're going to do a whole series, obviously. So
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: when we get to the post-apocalyptic, graft an arm on yourself,
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: we give it to George Miller. Then we go, alright,
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: go ahead and do your thing that you want to do.
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: We want to see your Fury Road version.
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: Of Max, Rick, and Morty.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: I don't want to see that.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Think how gory and realistic it would be. Man.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't want to see that. I don't think
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: I want to see that. You know, that Fury Road
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: was awesome. But I don't want that to be Rick
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: and Morty.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, there is a chaos element
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: to Rick and Morty that George Miller definitely gets. Again,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know that he can swing it. But, I mean,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: the director of Babe? The director of Happy Feet? Like,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: you're telling me he can't do a sweeter side?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: That is crazy.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it not insane that those are
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: all made by the same man?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: That's ridiculous.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 11: But.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: That might be the guy.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: That might be the guy. I mean, he definitely, if
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: we're handing him off, if we're doing a running series
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: and we want to give it to different directors, he's like.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: The James Bond. Every once in a while we just
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: change up directors and like.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: That's actually really good because I forgot about that.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: It's not bad.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: How is that the same person?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: I think that most days of my life, I stop
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: for a minute and be like, really?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: Because it makes.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: You not feel so weird for thinking, I hope that
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: person gets run over for going too fast.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, and I hope he ends up in a barn
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: with a talking pig.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: Makes it all okay.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: Oh, and I've had moments lately and we'd be like,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: why is that guy going so fast? And I'd say, yeah,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: we should get in like a one-person car wreck.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: It just hits a tree.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: I feel bad, and yet I don't. I just want
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: to see what happens.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Here we go. And I hadn't thought of it, but
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: the more I'm going into it, Jordan Peele. He likes dark.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: He likes horror. He definitely has his basis in comedy. Yeah.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: The sweet, but I.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Mean, he did Keanu. That kid, he's adorable.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's good.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: It's not a terrible option either.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: Not at all. I think that I always end up
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: on the Taika Waititi end of things because he is
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: like a Maori Jew, which is fascinating to me. It's
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: like a weird half Jewish family, like new world, old
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 7: world guilt.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: I'm now trying to, I'm trying to picture a Shane
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Black version. Where they're more like buddies. A buddy cop
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: version of Rick and Morty.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 7: Oh my God. This should just be his own episode
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: of Rick and Morty where they have like a buddy
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: cop show.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: I mean, well, they kind of like the Morty's killing Morty's.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a fucked up. Like that's the one
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: like midway in, like is it never really returned to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: a regular episode? I'm like, so are we just, I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: guess we're the whole, okay. And like by the end
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: it is so dark and I'm just like, That was.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: The entire episode. Wait, which one?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: The whole alternate universe where it's nothing but Ricks and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: Mortys and Mortys killing Mortys. You know, like it is
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: a dark.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: Oh my God. And at the end, Morty is here.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 7: It is a dark fucking episode.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: He goes into the room full of Mortys. Yeah. I'm
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: just like, that one was one of the ones.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Because it never had even the framework of a regular episode.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Like it was just immersed in an alternate universe story
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: of Ricks and Mortys.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: And like it just.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: It is, yeah. That's when you realize you're watching a
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: different kind of a show.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's been a couple episodes where I've been like.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: I think one of my favorites is Pickle Rick. Pickle Rick!
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: I was trying to think, how do you cast the
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: Pickle Rick movie? Like, we have to have a spinoff
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: movie that's just the Pickle Rick episode taken to full length.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 10: Really?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: You think Pickle Rick is a whole episode?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: Pickle Rick is... I loved it the first time, and
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: then the more I watched it... It is its own movie.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: I forget how many other things are going on in
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: that episode, but I'm.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: Just like, this is a huge story.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: But I just love... No, it's like, to me, the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: idea of Pickle Rick is like Pickle Rick transcends whatever
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: is happening. He doesn't want to be there, so he
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: turns himself into a pickle.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: Like, I know that feeling.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Again, that is the bastard level of Rick. He is
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: willing to go to that length.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 7: I would rather turn myself into a pickle than go
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 7: to some family functions. I mean, honestly, I'd be like,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 7: I'm Pickle Rick, bitch! Like, that is what appealed to
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 7: me about that.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: So, my question... That.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: He was willing to be Pickle Rick to avoid all
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: the other things going on.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: So, the average... episode is, what, 30 minutes long?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: 20-something.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: Two with commercials. There's a lot that happens in that
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: 30 minutes.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Because of the rapid-fire delivery, a single episode, like Pickle Rick.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: For example, you could turn that into a full-feature film
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: As that single episode.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: Yes, but to me, what I'm saying is the genius
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: of it is that he hated every situation that he
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: could have foreseen in his infinite rickness that he would
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 7: rather turn himself into a pickle.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: Well, him turning himself into a pickle was meant to be...
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: very temporary, and turned into a long-term scenario.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: But it precedes any kind of scenario that he knew
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: or imagined. He would rather take the risk of being
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 7: Pickle Rick than go into counseling.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: But again, that's just the epic selfishness and self-centered attitude
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: of Rick.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: Who has not been a Pickle Rick, though? I mean,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: I've been a Pickle Rick. Haven't we all?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Rather. I think we're learning equally as much about you
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: in this episode.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 7: I'd rather be a Pickle... That got washed out into the, like,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 7: whatever and picked up by a bird.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: Yes, I feigned being a zombie to get out of things.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then have to do some of the things
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: we had to do.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: No, no, nobody?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 7: You wouldn't be Pickle Rick?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: I feel like it's.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: Not the most level-headed plan of Rick's. And he's had
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: some pretty out-there plans.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: But.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: It's a pretty good.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: Chance, knowing how much they.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: By that season, they know what he's up to, and
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: they could look up and be like, huh.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: Why is that up there?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: You know what, Rick, you bastard? How about if I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: just take this with me?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, or I'm just gonna take this pickle with me. Whatever,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 7: you're Pickle Rick. I'm gonna take... But the thing is, like.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: It shows how little he thought of his family. That's
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying. I can get away with this.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: I can get away with anything. To me, it's.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: Like that his best situation... was his worst situation to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 7: make him turn into a pickle. That is the best
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: scenario he could have.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Come up with.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 6: Do you cast differently as Pickle Rick?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: No, I don't.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 10: No.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 9: I don't.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: Pickle Rick is just.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: Dwayne Johnson is Pickle Rick. Because it's a pretty big
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: action movie.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: By that goes on.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 7: Pickle Rick rolls out on you.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: Fantastic.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: I do want to announce the Morty's Killing Morty's episode.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: I now want to see a Denise Villeneuve.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: Directed version of it.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, that alternate universe by the guy who did
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Blade Runner 2049. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 7: I kind of want to see a.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Real world visualization of all of this.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: Oh God, that's so disturbing.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: That's not bad either. I want to see that. Let's see.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: So that's the thing. Maybe we just give each director
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: an episode to then like re-envision.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: Oh, that's a good idea.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: This has kind of got potential. I want to see this.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Which one do we give Catherine Bigelow? Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Hmm.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: Trying to think.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 10: Oh, man.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: Oh, God, that's a good.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Maybe like the wedding party one where everybody comes in
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: and gets massacred.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: Bird person.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Bird person.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: Bird person.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 7: Who's bird person? I love bird person.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: I love Tammy. All right, here's another.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: Well, that's too bad because I killed her. Which episode
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: do you give Edgar Wright? Because that's, I think, a
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: pretty good option, too.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: And what did Edgar Wright do?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: Oh, he did the whole trilogy.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 9: Tornado trilogy oh my.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: God but he's got again like even his other stuff
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: like looking at what he can do with like like
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: even baby driver is so well orchestrated for the like
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: crazy stuff that he's planning oh.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 7: My god that is such a good question So, here's
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 7: the thing. I've heard so many, like, critics say that
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 7: they don't like the current season and the season before
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 7: as much, but I think that they're... equally as good
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: as the earlier seasons.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: Like Rick and Morty?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I think there's a lot going on.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: There's always a lot going on with Rick and Morty.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 7: But still quality, you know, not just like random. Like
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: I can't separate myself from it to be like, well,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 7: the first season was good, but whatever. Like they're all good.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: Oh no, they're all good.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: You know, and you get to see the development of
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: all the different characters.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: I think that that's what makes it good. well-rounded series.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 7: I do think they get darker. Some of them get
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 7: darker and harder as the seasons go on. There's always.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: There's always at least one per season that's very dark.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Like I said, I think it also wears on you
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: the longer it goes on because you realize how much
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Morty is continuing to take. This abuse that he takes
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: and then how much Rick doesn't care and continues to
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: do what he wants to do.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: Like, I think if I had to pick the Edgar
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 7: Wright episode or the series, it would be the center
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: story would be the party that they have where he
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 7: sends them off to get like the whatever it is.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 7: And then he snorts it like after they nearly kill themselves.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 7: And he's like, whoa, it's a party.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: Oh, the house party.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 7: Like that whole house party, the one before it, the
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 7: house party, and the one after that are kind of.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: I was initially going to give it to a different director,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: but is it really funny to do the dream within
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: a dream within a dream and give it to Nolan? Oh, yeah.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: It feels like it's too easy.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: Is that the one with the nightmare on the street
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: or anything?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: Okay. You can't give it to Wes.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 10: But.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: My first thought on that one was Guillermo del Toro
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: doing the Dream World. That's pretty creepy. I'd be okay
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: with that.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 7: I thought he would be good with the latest Facehuckers one,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 7: to tell you the truth. I love the Facehuckers one.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 7: I don't know why.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: Do we let Tarantino do?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: What the hell is he going to do? Drag him
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: out of retirement to do... He's not He thinks he is.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 7: Oh, God.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: He likes to tease that for the last decade.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so which Tarantino, which ones would you pick for Tarantino?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: God, I mean, the facehugger thing, I think, would have
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: been a good one.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 7: I don't know why that one is so good. I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: think it's just because they're so shocked that she is, like,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: in control.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: Maybe.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's the pickle rick.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: Pickle Rick. He's Pickle Rick.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Watch Tarantino do the Pickle Rick episode.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I can see that.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of gunplay.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of gunplay, a lot of martial arts.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: There's potential there.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 11: Or the, well, I don't know.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 9: That's the multi-Marty one where it's like they kill the-
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 9: the dudes and are like, all right, tell my family
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 9: I love them.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: And you're like, oh God, like the bug dudes. And
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 7: you're just like, that's so sad and dark.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: All of that stuff is just dark. Keep breathing.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 7: Just hang out with me. He's like.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: Now I'm thinking of weird offshoot, like directors that are
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: their own thing. What episode is the Wes Anderson movie?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to picture a Wes Anderson fronted.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: Rick and Morty.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Although, it's so twisted. His worlds get so weird and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: twisted in almost the older ones. I feel like he's
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: leveled out a little more as he's gotten older, but
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: the weird cold family of the Royal Tenenbaums is not
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: that far off of what's going on with them.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 7: The hotel one. Is more so removed, but the Royal
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 7: Tenenbaums is not.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: See, I think the hotel went better put together as characters.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 7: Oh, I do too, but I think if you're talking.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: Rick and Morty, the Royal Tenenbaums.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Rick and Morty, I think it's way more appropriate
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: for a Royal Tenenbaums. It's way darker.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's a great question.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: We need to think on that. If we give Linkletter one,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: we've just got to watch Morty grow up.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: Oh, look, now he's 30.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 7: Well, that would be the one with the, like, well,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 7: you did pretty good on that game.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: Blips and shits. Blips and shits!
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: I don't even know which one, but I really want
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: to see Coen Brothers. How you filter the Coen Brothers
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: through some Rick and Morty.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: The one with the.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: You know, where the dog universe... Oh, God.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: I can't remember the name of the episode where the
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: dogs don the robotic exoskeleton.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: That's a weird choice for the Coen brothers, but.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: Why not? I mean, I'd watch.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: Morty, you will be my right-hand person.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, who would do Anatomy Park?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, that's a good one, too.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: Which one is.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: The anatomy park where Morty gets injected into the body
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: of the hobo dressed as Santa.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: I think that's the giant floating Santa.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: What's the giant floating naked man? Which episode is that?
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: Oh. I don't remember.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: That's like the first season, isn't it?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: Anatomy park.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 7: I think that might be the blips and chits in
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 7: the same era. No.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: Oh, same era, yeah. Same season, yeah. I think so. Yeah,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: Anatomy Park, they're like combating hepatitis C. And you're not
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: ringing any bells?
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe, like I've seen most of them,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: but this last one, they still haven't come out where
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: you can watch most of them yet.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 7: It's that same idea of like you start in one place.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: And you end up in another.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: We watched the latest episodes on Sling, but the The earlier, what,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: season one through three is on Hulu.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Most of them lend themselves to David Lowery.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 7: And David Lynch.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 10: Oh, Lord.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: That would be interesting.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: If there were no redeeming sweetness to it, it.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 10: Would be dangerous.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: There's like a weird.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: Vein of hope that runs in his stuff, but it's
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: buried in the darkness.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: It's deep down there.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: So, what's our takeaway on this?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 7: Well, you know.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of potential is what we've learned.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: As much as it seems like a terrible idea.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: It.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: Is a movie-making goldmine.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's just so much to work with in
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: that basic material. As long as somebody is committed to
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: doing something interesting... Like, I would want.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: To watch it. All of the stories are worth making.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Really.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: Because you don't have to know the history of any
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: of the characters to understand that, you know, A, Rick
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: is a mad scientist who is also an asshole. B,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: Morty is a teenage, you know, idiot.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 6: And Summer is, you know, an older teenage idiot. And
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: then Beth... and uh.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: Well jerry's got issues i can't remember jerry's name because
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: he's forgettable and here's the thing.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: Like you're you're still working in that same paradigm you
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 7: know the uh you're still working in the same hero
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: paradigm in all of those things and like their journey you.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Know even when the character himself is not really a
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: hero but it's but it's pretty occasionally he pulls it
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: out where you're like oh Well, I guess I don't
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: hate him now.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: But it's pretty easy to establish those roles very quickly
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: so that you could just go, you know, any episode
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: could turn into a full-length movie.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 7: Because it's the same story where it's like the beginning
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 7: and the story and the redemption, even if the redemption
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: is not that much.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: Pretty easy. I mean, you could turn 30 minutes into
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: two hours very easily. It's just.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: It's weird that it works as well as it does
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: even within this scenario because he is, again, having like,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: even in the world of anti-heroes that we have, few
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: of them are as dark and twisted as Rick is.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: That's true. It's true.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: Which is why I would watch it.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: I'm all for it. So let's see if we can
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: put this together.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: All right. Absolutely.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: Sign me up. I'll get a hold of all these directors.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 6: I'll be in the focus group. We'll start doctoring up
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 6: the screenplays.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: So we have this idea and also substituting one person's
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 7: career for the other person's career.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: That's genius. We've got a.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: Lot to work on.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: A lot to put together. So we'll continue on and
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: come back with more ridiculous ideas in the future.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah we'll ramble forever but.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah but for now i'd say we should wrap it
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: up and just go sit and think about all these
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: ideas yeah thanks for listening let them fester.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 7: Thanks for hanging out hopefully you.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Guys too these things we say will fester in your
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: mind and.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: You So let us know who you.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: Want to direct which episode and how you want to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: elaborate on some of these stories.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to know that. I want to know
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: what people think. I have opinions that mean nothing. I
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 7: want to know other people's opinions.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: And I'm sure other people have them.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: And these are things that don't matter, and it's not
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 7: life or death, so it's nice.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no one's going to die because of these opinions.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 7: Good times.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: And I feel like a lot of this probably won't
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: get made, so we're safe. Because I'm afraid of what
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: would happen if they did. Because I feel like they'll
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: bungle it like every other.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: Maybe we need to make it.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but here's the thing. Then we have the whole
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 7: idea of sitting at this table and going, we had
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: that idea. They totally screwed it up.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: I can't believe Dan Harmon stole our idea of doing
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: the thing that he already came up with.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 7: Dan Harmon stole our idea of the idea that he
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 7: already had. But we had the better idea that it
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 7: was his idea.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 9: No?
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: It's time stamped.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: Copyright.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: Copyright.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 7: He's Rick Sanchez anyway. Dan Harmon's Rick Sanchez anyway, so
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 7: it doesn't matter. It's like he's ahead of the game.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: Well, Dan, get a hold of us. We're up for
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: elaborating on any of these ideas.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: I'm sure you want to hear them.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure. We can come in, help write some screenplays,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: I got nothing. I just make things up.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: I need some producer credit. It's fine. Yeah, it's fine.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 9: I hate LA.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: We'll get high together.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: I'm kidding.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: I'm sure it'll work out.
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  Speaker 7: It'd be great.
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  Speaker 8: Good times.
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  Speaker 6: It'd be great.
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  Speaker 3: Until we return or hear from Dan, whichever happens first. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 3: that about does it. We will return next time. Same
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  Speaker 3: geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 11: A distant voice, one that I used to know There's
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  Speaker 11: a force and it's trying to drag me.
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  Speaker 8: Down Just like that. Tomorrow's one day that I'm never
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  Speaker 8: getting back.
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  Speaker 1: If I let it go, I cannot shake this feeling.
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  Speaker 8: Just like that, tomorrow's.
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  Speaker 1: One day that I'm never getting back. I can feel
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  Speaker 1: you go. Wake me from this dreaming. Wake me from
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  Speaker 1: this dreaming.
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  Speaker 7: He sent back an hour and four minute loop of,
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  Speaker 7: of Morty saying, play snake jazz. And then it starts
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  Speaker 7: up and it just goes. I watched that for 15 minutes.
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  Speaker 7: I want my 15 minutes back.
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