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  At least up. Let's go. It's time for Banter with the boys.
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  Yo, yo, welcome back to Banter with the boys.
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  Gridiron updates a week 10 already.
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  Oh, wait a minute. 10. There he goes.
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  Hold the pen. It looked like nine or eight.
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  One as you guys know, I'm horrible at math.
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  But we got three newbies with us this week.
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  Fresh meat here at Banter with the boys.
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  I don't know if you want to be called fresh meat, but I'll take it this week.
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  Might as well write as well.
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  Might as well. So right next to me, we'll start with Dan.
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  Dan, why don't you?
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  I mean, I already introduced you, I guess.
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  But why don't you introduce yourself to the to our avid listeners about,
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  you know, your football history, what got you into the game,
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  why you watch all that and your team, obviously, score to the ball.
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  Yeah. Scored the ball.
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  I'll just say there right now, Vikings are my team.
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  My name's Dan, like you mentioned.
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  I played football throughout high school, played the junior college level.
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  And then I just got into coaching at Kennedy High School.
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  Shout out Matt Hamilton. He got me my job.
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  I love Kennedy High School.
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  And Tyler is a heck of a coach, too.
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  Well, so thanks for me. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I appreciate that.
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  Well, I'm happy to have you here.
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  And thanks for having me.
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  Long time wanted to get you on all season.
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  And here it is. Here it is.
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  Dom, we'll go to you next.
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  I know I just met you, what?
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  Literally three weeks ago.
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  We need three weeks on a hole three at Duan, I'd say.
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  Yeah, of course.
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  We just started talking about the.
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  Yeah, now here you are.
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  Scored the ball. Right.
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  Scored the ball. Hey, thanks for having me.
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  First off, it's a pleasure.
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  Dominique, I would say it's school the ball for sure.
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  The Vikings are my team.
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  Football has been a thing in my life my whole life.
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  I never played it flag really.
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  But besides that, Vikings all the way.
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  Oh, yeah. I see you be playing flag football.
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  I see you. Oh, yeah. That was my thing.
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  Yeah. Used to travel for a little bit.
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  And really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Florida, Vegas.
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  Well, yeah. Offensive lineman. Big, big time.
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  That's all I did. Yeah.
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  All right. Sweet. Well, I'm happy to have you here.
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  I think you're ready to get going here.
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  And then last but not least, next to me,
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  I do what do you want to go by on the show?
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  I'll go back, Cody. That's fine.
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  Yeah. Well, we've done that at home.
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  I think it's dark at home.
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  Well, Cody, what?
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  Welcome to the pod. Thank you, man.
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  Yeah, my name's Cody.
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  I'm also a big Vikings fan.
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  Skoll to the bull.
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  Sucks to be all you guys.
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  It's all Vikings fans up here this week.
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  I've always been a huge Vikings fan,
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  huge football fan in general.
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  I've been playing fantasy football with my dad since I can remember.
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  So and then the athletic trainer for a pretty darn good
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  high school football team here in Minnesota, too.
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  So I get to spend a lot of time around it.
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  And if you guys have any injury questions,
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  you can pop them on over or I'll I'll give you guys
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  a few tidbits on that kind of thing, too.
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  So what a high school.
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  I'm out at Central High School in North America.
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  Nice, nice, nice.
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  Appearing in the state tournament here on Friday.
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  Yeah. Yeah. You know, Jackson County, Central.
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  Yeah, you bet, man.
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  You know, J Robinson done pretty well.
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  J Robinson. Yeah, I don't think so.
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  And Central football coach. Yeah.
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  Yeah. No, our football coach.
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  His name is Chris.
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  No, no, I'm wise and assistant. So.
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  Oh, I got you.
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  So maybe maybe don't work with him as often.
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  Unless he's getting injured.
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  I know I don't. That's OK. That's OK.
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  Oh, fair enough. No, congrats.
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  Well, good luck in the tournament.
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  I appreciate you. For sure. For sure.
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  Appreciate it.
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  With that, Kev, let's head to our week nine game recaps.
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  And starting it off, of course,
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  with the
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  skull to the ball nation.
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  Vikings getting the dump 21 13.
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  Again, I talk all season, so I want to hear from you guys.
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  Dom, let's start with you, homie.
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  What what did you like about this game against the Colts?
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  What I mean, it was kind of nerve racking for a little bit
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  as a Vikings fan.
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  I would have thought we would have been stomping them.
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  You know, our zero points in the first quarter.
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  I don't know if that was the first time this season,
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  but it's weird.
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  I think it's the first time I have not seen the Vikings
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  not score points in the game, you know what I'm saying?
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  Especially the first half, we've been really dominant.
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  First half team, first quarter team, definitely.
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  I think we've averaged over 14 points, at least in the first
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  in the first quarter, first half alone.
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  You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
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  A couple of weeks ago, I had it was like we outscored opponents
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  55 to six or something in the first quarter.
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  That's amazing. A couple of weeks back now, of course.
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  But yeah, it was crazy.
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  Things I liked, I loved the defense.
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  Brian Flores is something special.
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  I tell you what, man, I know he's getting a lot of flack
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  the last two weeks about giving up a lot of points.
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  But this week we bend, but we don't break.
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  That's one thing I definitely tell you about the Vikings.
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  Van Ginkle, special, special guy.
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  The way he- What a signer.
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  What I can say is about it's about time we finally get him
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  in the coverage too.
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  So I mean, he's got what, three picks, three touchdowns?
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  He's got more touchdowns than who?
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  Devontae Adams? Come on now, guys.
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  Let's be serious.
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  A couple of them unbelievable picks.
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  Yeah, unbelievable. One handed.
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  The one on the run. Just outrageous to me.
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  Yeah. Crazy. Yes, sir.
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  And they finally got home to Joe Flacco this week.
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  So the three sacks, got him a throw pick.
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  You could tell the pressure was starting to affect him.
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  And that's what we didn't see from the Vikings defense
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  against Matthew Stafford and Jared Goff a week before that.
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  It was good to see.
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  I was just happy to see that we had, I would say, Sleepy Joe.
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  He was sleeping on Sunday against the Vikings.
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  Sleeping Joe.
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  Joe Flacco, now the Sleepy Joe.
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  All right, all right.
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  It was good to see our running game.
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  Cam Haker's getting the six carries for 46 yards.
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  Going crazy with that.
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  Yeah, it's good to have that.
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  Making literally the most out of the limited amount of carries.
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  That's 7.6 yards per attempt, which is brilliant, actually.
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  And then Aaron Jones looked good as usual, too.
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  For sure, for sure.
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  Some not quite on the other side of the ball.
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  I figured that Jonathan Taylor would run all over our defense.
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  Again, part of us actually being able to,
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  because I'm on the Vikings.
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  But that's why I got the jersey out.
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  And he goes 13 for 48.
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  Our defense just put up a wall.
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  Literally.
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  Unbelievable.
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  He couldn't find any room.
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  Talk about fumbling on that very first possession that completely changes the momentum in our
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  favor.
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  And it felt like the Colts had it.
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  100%.
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  Right away.
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  The Colts for sure had it right away.
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  That's because everybody expected us to put up 20 points in the first half.
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  And when we don't do that, it's going to feel like it's slipping away.
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  It's hard to please Vikings fans.
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  We could still win the game, and people will still be mad at the end of the week.
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  That's just the truth.
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  Just the way we started, that was just so slow.
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  With Will Ryker missing those two kicks, but finding out at the end of the game, we understand
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  why.
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  He's got a quad injury.
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  So now we've got to try to figure out, see if we've got to get a new kicker in the game.
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  I hope not.
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  Because he's been money all about you.
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  That just proved he was human, those two misses.
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  For sure.
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  He is awesome.
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  Speaking of being human, Sam Darnold.
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  Up and down right now, those two picks though were a little bit bothersome.
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  The one in the end zone, come on.
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  Where is he throwing the ball to?
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  I've literally been wondering.
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  Where he hit 4-4 in the numbers.
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  In the numbers.
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  I'm like, where are you going?
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  That's all you hear from the guy.
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  But then he'll put it right on the money to JJ perfectly.
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  You can't defend it.
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  So it's just like, I don't understand.
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  It's like he's trying to decide which version of himself.
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  Who does he want to be?
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  Did you hear what he said after the game too?
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  He said that if he would have just, he said that he threw it short, and if he wouldn't
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  have thrown it short, that it would have been a good throw.
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  Which one?
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  The one in the end zone.
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  And when you look at it, there's another player standing right behind the guy that caught
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  it, and he's waiting to catch it if he misses it.
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  I think we should air on.
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  He's seeing a ghost out there.
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  That was the ghost.
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  I think we need to air on just not throwing the ball right there would probably be the
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  best bet.
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  White jerseys blending into each other I guess.
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  Real quick because we're Vikings fans, fun to see Dallas Turner getting a little bit
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  more playing time here this week.
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  I hope they let him lose a little bit more and continue on that path.
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  That's another guy catching a lot of flak.
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  I feel bad for him because we drafted him in the first round.
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  He's been catching a lot of flak from everybody.
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  Is he going to be the next guy?
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  Is he going to be the next Daniel Hunter?
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  Is he going to be the next Jared Allen?
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  You've got to give him a couple years guys.
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  That's the one thing about the NFL.
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  They don't really give enough guys a lot of time out there, and that's been really
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  strugglesome just to watch around the NFL happen.
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  Dallas Turner, this week he's put in the right position.
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  He's going to be making plays.
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  I mean he is an absolute specimen.
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  You can see he's already leveled up since he's came here.
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  He's dropped back into coverage.
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  He's created immense amount of pressure.
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  He is just awesome.
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  Flores is going to completely transform him as long as he's with us.
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  Well yeah, let's hope Flores is here for the long haul.
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  You know what?
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  I've done the head coach thing.
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  I do not want it anymore.
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  Let's just hope he comes out and says that so then we can all feel a little bit better
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  because I think him and KOC are starting to mesh a little bit.
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  I know last season there was a couple times where Flores was trying not to step on his
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  toes and that kind of feel out period, but now this year they seem more comfortable with
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  each other.
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  I definitely feel the same way about that situation.
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  So I kind of hope they continue that.
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  Last thing I really want to say is, what's his name here?
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  What's his first name?
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  Zaire Franklin for the Colts?
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  Dang, I like that kid.
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  That dude comes downhill hard.
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  He's going to smack you.
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  Him and Taylor, what was his last name?
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  Taylor, number 90.
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  He's the defensive tackle.
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  He was just eating up Brad Berry.
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  Oh man.
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  Grover Stewart and DeForest Buck.
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  Oh yeah, it's Stewart.
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  On the fumble play.
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  On the fumble play.
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  Which, okay, real quick, we got to talk about the fumble play.
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  I mean by rule, right?
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  I'm not trying to just be a Homer like fan, but by rule, forcible contact to the head
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  of the quarterback.
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  That's what they've been saying.
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  There's got to be a flag.
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  And he threw, he got it right.
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  He threw it down right away.
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  He didn't even think about it, nothing.
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  Threw that thing down right away.
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  And then all of a sudden, oh no, no.
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  That doesn't make any sense.
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  We got to make sure we go with what we got going on the floor.
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  That's the one thing I hate picking up these big, big flags that could literally momentum
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  changes in the game.
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  It's been crucial all season.
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  It's not even for the Vi, because it's been in a lot of games that I've been watching
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  this season.
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  So.
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  No, for sure.
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  What did you guys think about it though?
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  For real?
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  I mean, I think the rules not included like should it be a football penalty?
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  No, it never should have gotten to that point.
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  Shouldn't be a penalty.
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  But the fact is that that's the rule though.
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  For me, like I agree, like I'm fine if it's not a penalty.
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  I'm fine.
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  It sucks that they scoop and score down on us.
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  Right.
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  Do I feel differently if we lose the game?
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  Maybe.
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  But.
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  Definitely.
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  Come down.
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  Come down.
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  But like I'd rather them just let him play football.
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  You know, at the end of the day.
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  But I'm sorry, Dan.
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  I walked all over you, homie.
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  No, no.
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  I just had to blurt that out.
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  No, I was just going to say just after watching that replay how Bradbury got completely destroyed.
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  Absolutely destroyed.
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  Should have never got to that point.
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  And that just comes with just complete domination on the interior line, which the Colts have.
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  I mean, they do have a good defense.
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  You saw.
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  You saw it playing us.
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  They definitely limited us.
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  But they just got to get their quarterback figured out and they'll be all right.
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  Oh, gosh.
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  Texans aren't running away with it.
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  You know, that division is wide open.
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  The division is still very wide open.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  Definitely.
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  With that, let's move right along here into our Lions Packers game.
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  Not as close as people thought, but 24-14 Lions.
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  How are we feeling about that?
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  Why don't you take it away?
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  The Lions are a wagon this year.
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  That's a hockey term.
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  I'm sorry.
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  That's all Trey said last episode is now Detroit's a wagon.
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  Everything you need to go the distance.
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  So as much as I hate them as a division rival, they're so good.
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  I mean, yeah, like Gibbs and Montgomery together in their first, they've had 20 games together
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  and they're the only one to punch to ever have 15 touchdowns and both have over 1500
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  scrimmage yards in their first 20 games together.
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  Which is just mind blowing for two running backs.
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  If you think about that, it's just crazy.
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  Sonic and Knuckles picking up the rings.
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  Dude, and that's such a cool nickname.
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  It doesn't get any better than that.
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  Trey went real deep with it last week or the two weeks ago whenever and he was like, no,
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  Sonic and Knuckles aren't even friends so that doesn't even work.
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  He's tearing it apart.
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  Got real deep into the situation.
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  Yeah, got real deep.
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  They make it work, man.
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  They make it work.
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  Jared Goff, efficient as ever again, 18 for 22 for 145 and a ton.
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  I mean, he's doing enough to win the game.
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  That's all he's got to do and he's getting it done.
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  And everybody still wants to hate on the guy.
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  I mean, yours truly sometimes too.
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  I'm like, Jared Goff, come on.
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  I say the same thing.
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  Rob, our co-host, said Jared Goff last week.
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  I just don't understand, but he's doing enough, man.
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  And then yeah, the one-two punch, Amon Ra, Sam Laporta.
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  I mean, the weapons are there.
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  Defensively, they're there.
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  Losing eight in hundreds and sucks, but.
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  Dude, did you guys hear the stat that Amon Ra with going, how many catches did he have
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  last game?
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  Seven.
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  He had seven catches.
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  So in before that game, he was 23 for his last 23 targets on receptions.
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  So he's 30 for his last 30 receptions, which is insane.
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  Larry Fitzgerald track.
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  Dude, it's crazy.
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  He's something special.
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  He is.
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  Yeah, no, I like the line.
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  Ben Johnson.
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  They came up with the stat on that.
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  The odds on that are one in 785,000.
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  Ben Johnson, that's another thing to talk about.
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  Crazy.
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  Yeah, that's insane.
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  Yeah.
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  If I am a team that needs a head coach, I am looking at Ben Johnson first and foremost.
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  That guy knows how to develop and mold an offense and get their balls into the playmaker's
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  hands.
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  The easiest way is possible.
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  And that's why all these completions are coming and they're not doing anything special.
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  I mean, like they said, the well's deep and Ben Johnson is that guy.
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  I don't argue that at all.
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  But do you think there's a situation in Detroit, kind of like what we're hoping for with KOC
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  and Flores, do you think that, you know, why am I blanking on head honcho's name in Detroit
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  right now?
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  Dan Campbell.
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  Yeah.
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  You think Dan and Ben are like, you know, like this is a team thing, you know what I
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  mean?
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  But if they go and win the Super Bowl this year, then Ben takes his opportunity, dips,
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  does his own thing.
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  Or do you look at the other way?
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  If they lose the Super Bowl or don't make it, OK, we did what I could here, still dip
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  and do his own thing.
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  You think no matter what, Ben Johnson, I think he's leaving no matter what, because he would
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  have made that decision last year.
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  I mean, he had the commander's job set and locked and look at the only took it this year
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  because the goal was to win the Super Bowl.
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  I mean, that was first and foremost the goal for sure.
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  And I'm looking to do that either way, because there's going to be every head, every team
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  in the NFL will be after Ben Johnson easily.
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  The real question is, I'm sorry, just the Lions backers is Jordan Love healthy?
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  No, that is a no way.
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  That's a big situation.
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  No, there's no way that he has lingering.
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  He has 11 interceptions all of last year and he has now 10 through nine games.
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  Well, yeah, not not healthy.
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  Right.
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  And then now that he only had one pick this game, but you're down 17, three at half of
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  this game.
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  You know, now you're going to be hugging the ball just to try to catch up.
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  You know, so it's.
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  You're down 17, three because of the pick.
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  Did you see the interception he threw was the most outrageous thing.
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  Why is he just not take a sec?
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  What is he doing?
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  Yeah, my grandmother could have got out of the way.
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  He had that one a couple of weeks ago, too.
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  Same like similar deal where he's like getting getting tackled.
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  I think he was actually positive yards even and just like the Huck's.
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  Yeah, or you hold the ball.
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  What are you doing?
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  Right into their hands.
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  He's better than that.
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  I honestly think he's not that bad.
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  He's not very looks he's he's done some things.
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  I'm not going to agree when I'm a Vikings fan, obviously.
• 16:42
  But I mean, it's just be let's be honest, you know, it's the same with the Lions.
• 16:45
  Let's be honest.
• 16:46
  Right.
• 16:47
  There's something special and they showed us what they were about when we played them,
• 16:50
  you know.
• 16:51
  So sure.
• 16:52
  It's just too bad Green Bay wasn't able to stick to their game plan, probably, which
• 16:55
  is keep pounding the rock with Josh Jacobs with maybe an unhealthy Jordan Love.
• 17:00
  And with only 13 carries, you know, obviously they're playing from behind.
• 17:03
  But on those 13 carries, he still had 95 yards.
• 17:05
  Yeah.
• 17:06
  So I mean, he's he's getting more consistent with the high yardage now.
• 17:11
  I mean, he started out the season kind of slow, but now he's starting to really get
• 17:15
  out there.
• 17:16
  And it's kind of startling a little bit as we still got to play them again.
• 17:19
  I got to play one more time.
• 17:20
  It is.
• 17:21
  Yeah.
• 17:22
  I mean, the Packers offensive run game, their line has always been good.
• 17:26
  Always been good.
• 17:27
  And that's why they brought Josh Jacobs is to break that next level run.
• 17:31
  I mean, Aaron Jones was definitely capable of doing that, but it was questionable with
• 17:35
  the injuries, the lingering injury.
• 17:38
  But Josh Jacobs was two years removed of a 1600 yard season.
• 17:43
  So yeah, I mean, we know not awesome.
• 17:46
  We know what the Packers offensive line is capable of.
• 17:49
  So how about the NFC North before we wrap this game?
• 17:53
  I mean, just I have no idea who's going to win it.
• 17:55
  I obviously my guts like Green Bay doesn't have it right now.
• 17:59
  So like the Lions do actually startle me.
• 18:01
  But I mean, who knows if Jordan Love can get healthy, Green Bay can absolutely go on a
• 18:05
  run to if Jair Alexander can get healthy.
• 18:07
  You know what I mean?
• 18:08
  They need their key pieces to come back healthy and Chicago is just kind of doing their thing
• 18:11
  right now.
• 18:12
  We'll get to them a little bit, but I don't hate.
• 18:15
  I don't hate where they're at actually.
• 18:17
  But yeah, we'll get we'll get to where they're at.
• 18:20
  They had a rough week, but before we get too far off of the Lions game, go for it.
• 18:26
  What's up?
• 18:27
  Well, I'm on Ron's like 10 yards open every time he catches the ball, right?
• 18:30
  He's an elite route runner.
• 18:31
  It's crazy.
• 18:32
  And like you like you said, the offensive coordinator is just working for him.
• 18:38
  How come he does not take a tackle that it drives me nuts?
• 18:42
  I mean, I see that guy just prance out of bounds.
• 18:46
  I mean, yes, they had a whole situation.
• 18:53
  As football players, you guys, does that like spark a fire under you guys?
• 18:58
  Yes and no.
• 18:59
  Right.
• 19:00
  It depends on the game situation.
• 19:01
  If it's if it's I just got a first down and it's the first quarter and it's seven, nothing
• 19:06
  either way.
• 19:07
  I'm not taking that hit.
• 19:09
  You know what I mean?
• 19:10
  You got to protect your body a little bit.
• 19:11
  These are grown men.
• 19:12
  Literally, I know.
• 19:13
  Ramming into each other.
• 19:14
  Full speed.
• 19:15
  You got six, four, two hundred sixty pounds coming down on you full speed.
• 19:19
  Like I'm sorry.
• 19:20
  And if I'm Amon Ra, who's what, six foot, probably one ninety five or something like
• 19:25
  I'm if that even I'm going on about.
• 19:28
  Yeah.
• 19:29
  Or sliding like sorry.
• 19:30
  Now, now if we're Cam Newton in the Super Bowl not wanting to dive on the ball, no,
• 19:34
  that's not OK.
• 19:35
  I was a big Cam Newton guy.
• 19:36
  Don't get me started on that.
• 19:37
  But like, but like, you know, at that point, yeah, I want to see him take on a hit and
• 19:41
  fight for that extra yard if it's fourth and inches and you need it.
• 19:45
  You got to have it.
• 19:46
  You know what I mean?
• 19:47
  I think it's game situation for me.
• 19:48
  Yeah.
• 19:49
  I could I could see how some like oh geez, they're like, no, that's some, you know, lack
• 19:54
  of better terms.
• 19:55
  I almost said something.
• 19:56
  You know, I know what you mean.
• 19:59
  Yeah.
• 20:00
  But I just feel like with how explosive he is and like how slippery he can be.
• 20:04
  I mean, if he just went for it, I mean, I feel like every fourth tackle he could break
• 20:09
  and bust loose 100 percent.
• 20:10
  And exactly why a guy like that cannot take a huge hit ACL or, you know, some some Achilles
• 20:16
  or something now he might not be able to run that same route ever again for all we know.
• 20:21
  Yeah.
• 20:22
  You know what I mean?
• 20:23
  Not everybody comes back 100 percent from those injuries.
• 20:24
  So I don't know.
• 20:25
  I like I like the idea of trying to extend his career, I guess.
• 20:29
  Yeah.
• 20:30
  So starting from the starting from the early on, the best ability is availability.
• 20:33
  You know, that's that's so you need to have it.
• 20:36
  You know, they need a monstey Brown.
• 20:38
  They don't not have them.
• 20:40
  Laporte is doing all right, but he's not what he was last year.
• 20:43
  You know, he was really there amping them up real big this season coming in.
• 20:46
  You know, it'd be the next Hawkinson this that in the third.
• 20:49
  For me, it's just like, oh, let's they got that 200 monster Gibbs Montgomery.
• 20:53
  Oh, yeah.
• 20:54
  And Gibbs, man, you can.
• 20:55
  I literally saw Gibbs.
• 20:56
  He didn't even play in the first quarter.
• 20:58
  Came in the second quarter, whole second quarter.
• 21:00
  He's just fresh legs, fresh legs.
• 21:02
  Dave Montgomery comes in the third quarter, fresh legs.
• 21:03
  And then you play action golf off that and it's over.
• 21:06
  You know what I mean?
• 21:07
  It's it's done.
• 21:08
  So that offense is a well oiled unit, well oiled unit in Detroit.
• 21:11
  And let's move on, let's move on.
• 21:18
  The Broncos traveling to Baltimore.
• 21:21
  I chose this game because we have not talked about the Broncos this year.
• 21:25
  We've talked about Baltimore a lot and have had a fan on this year for Baltimore.
• 21:31
  This one picked a good one.
• 21:33
  Not a lot to talk about here.
• 21:36
  The really bad part here is that I was the only one to pick the Broncos thinking like
• 21:42
  I was on some, you know, I didn't plan that.
• 21:46
  But like I just yeah.
• 21:47
  So when Boonix caught that touchdown, I bet you were a pretty happy guy.
• 21:51
  Uh, whatever.
• 21:52
  If that's what you got to score touchdowns against the Red Vans, that's a problem.
• 21:58
  That's you know, when you're going that's as far as deep as you can go.
• 22:01
  That's one thing when I was watching the game, I'm like, this is how we're going.
• 22:04
  That's how you got to score a touchdown.
• 22:05
  Yeah, I don't really see it going to be going much farther.
• 22:07
  You know, like I mean, the Ravens pretty much just pummeled.
• 22:11
  They handled those literally handled.
• 22:14
  It was no question about the Broncos could not stop the rush to save their life.
• 22:20
  You know, if Derek Henry averaging 4.6 yards a carry, well, guess what?
• 22:25
  The first down on third down, you know what I mean?
• 22:27
  So it's Derek Henry, man.
• 22:29
  I mean, that was what a great acquisition by the Ravens this obviously.
• 22:32
  I mean, he just scored his hundredth touchdown in his career against this last team.
• 22:36
  So I mean, that's something special in itself.
• 22:38
  So now King, King Henry continues to reign, although Saquon will, I'll tell you, we'll
• 22:45
  touch on Saquon before we go to 10 talk because that was just anyway, back to 2021 with the
• 22:51
  running backs at the top.
• 22:53
  I know, right?
• 22:54
  That's just crazy, man.
• 22:55
  I think maybe maybe I found their team.
• 22:58
  Thank you.
• 22:59
  Right, man.
• 23:00
  He's got 116 rushing yards a game like elite Derek Henry that we remember from what was
• 23:06
  a 2020 had like about the same numbers and he was 120 yards per game.
• 23:12
  So I mean, he's there again.
• 23:13
  And you put him on a team with a MVP dual threat quarterback.
• 23:17
  Are you kidding me?
• 23:18
  Yeah.
• 23:19
  Who's getting the ball at that point?
• 23:20
  You got Zay Flowers who can run a crazy route and he our boy Bateman.
• 23:24
  But five receptions, 127 yards, two TDs for Zay Flowers.
• 23:29
  I mean, that was as they had a had himself a budding superstar like performance.
• 23:35
  But it's just how much Derek Henry opens up that offense.
• 23:39
  That's the thing.
• 23:40
  He completely changed their offense.
• 23:41
  It was exactly what they were missing from last season.
• 23:43
  Yes.
• 23:44
  Lamar Jackson only had to throw the ball 19 times, completing 16 of those and still through
• 23:49
  for 280 yards.
• 23:50
  That means everything.
• 23:51
  That means everything beyond the box is probably wide open because they're just like we have
• 23:55
  we have to bring everybody down.
• 23:57
  Well, we have to attempt to stop Derek Henry.
• 24:00
  Yeah, I mean, we saw was a flowers.
• 24:03
  He makes one man miss.
• 24:04
  He's gone.
• 24:05
  He's all for sure.
• 24:06
  He has shifted.
• 24:07
  That's because of the fine Z code.
• 24:10
  Yeah, he's something else.
• 24:12
  Yeah, definitely.
• 24:13
  He's all I don't really think there's a ton to talk about in this game, particularly Baltimore
• 24:18
  is exactly who we all thought and think they are.
• 24:21
  I just took a flyer on the Broncos last week.
• 24:24
  But what about the Broncos?
• 24:26
  I mean, how far off how much of a fake is that five win season at the moment for the
• 24:30
  Broncos?
• 24:31
  Or did they just stumble and happen to play one of the better teams in NFL?
• 24:35
  They stumbled.
• 24:36
  Yeah, I was 1000 percent.
• 24:37
  They have a rookie.
• 24:38
  They have a rookie quarterback.
• 24:39
  I mean, Sean Payton's only been there, what, two, three years.
• 24:43
  You can tell they're trying to build a culture there.
• 24:46
  This was a clash of cultures.
• 24:48
  I mean, Harbaugh's already built it with the Ravens.
• 24:50
  You can see it clear as day.
• 24:52
  Sure.
• 24:53
  And they smothered the Broncos.
• 24:54
  But absolutely, the Broncos be just fine.
• 24:57
  I think they'll be that 10 and seven, maybe that 11 and 16.
• 25:01
  They're just two pieces away from being good.
• 25:02
  They just need a couple of targets.
• 25:03
  They don't really got nobody to throw the ball to right now.
• 25:06
  They lost.
• 25:07
  They lost.
• 25:08
  The Sutton's there, but Sutton's not who he used to be.
• 25:10
  You know, right.
• 25:11
  A hundred percent.
• 25:12
  They took Judy.
• 25:13
  Judy went to the Browns and you know, I mean, they just don't really got nobody to throw
• 25:17
  the ball to.
• 25:18
  And so Bo Nix is just literally run around his legs.
• 25:21
  Those legs, those are not underrated.
• 25:22
  I'm telling you, those things are.
• 25:23
  I mean, those things are underrated.
• 25:25
  He can really scramble and really get around there.
• 25:27
  I was watching.
• 25:28
  I mean, he was getting away from the pressure and he was one left right, you know, right
• 25:31
  down the middle.
• 25:32
  You know, so I mean, it was really good to see that.
• 25:34
  You sold on Bo Nix over Drake May right now?
• 25:37
  A hundred percent.
• 25:38
  Yes.
• 25:39
  I was sold on him.
• 25:40
  I was sold him out the gate.
• 25:41
  Sounding yes.
• 25:42
  Did you see Bo Nix drop his shoulder at the end of his like 15 yard run too?
• 25:45
  And even on the touchdown.
• 25:46
  Josh Allen stuff.
• 25:47
  Yeah.
• 25:48
  Show him on around that tape.
• 25:49
  Show him on around that tape.
• 25:50
  I'm going to be like, I'm good.
• 25:51
  That's another coaching situation.
• 25:55
  You know, Sean Payton's worked with Drew Brees and when you have that kind of success, I
• 26:00
  can translate to maybe Bo Nix someday.
• 26:03
  You know, it's yet to be proved, but no disrespect to the Patriots, but who, who is their offensive
• 26:08
  coordinator?
• 26:09
  I mean, yeah, no, I don't know.
• 26:11
  I would have said OJ.
• 26:13
  A situation like that.
• 26:16
  A lot of the times they're not going to have success.
• 26:19
  That's just the fact.
• 26:20
  And Drake May, this is a tangent real quick, but Drake May, he hucked the ball up at the
• 26:24
  end of the game.
• 26:25
  They got the, they got the tying touchdown, go for the field goal, whatever.
• 26:29
  And then an OT throws the pick.
• 26:30
  It's like, dude, and that was in that there was a horrible big, he's going for gold.
• 26:34
  Yeah.
• 26:35
  That's just a perfect example of trying to go for the gold right there.
• 26:37
  And he should have just went for another check now.
• 26:39
  Yeah.
• 26:40
  Not the sidebar and Drake May in a Ravens and Broncos talk here.
• 26:44
  But anyway, let's move on here.
• 26:46
  Nothing, nothing much going on again in that game.
• 26:48
  Ravens continue to show that they could be the team to beat in the AFC.
• 26:53
  Moving right along to the team to beat in the AFC right now.
• 26:57
  The Buccaneers traveling to Kansas City and that was exciting.
• 27:04
  I really thought the Bucs were about to pull that off at the end, honestly, until they
• 27:09
  took a timeout at the whatever it was, the one yard line, two yard line with 30 seconds
• 27:13
  left in the game.
• 27:14
  I was like, what are you doing?
• 27:16
  You do not put the ball back in Patrick Mahomes hand.
• 27:19
  That's wrong decision is the wrong decision.
• 27:22
  So I don't know.
• 27:23
  I think the Buccaneers seriously lost that game.
• 27:28
  They had a really good opportunity there.
• 27:29
  Did you catch that one?
• 27:30
  Yeah.
• 27:31
  Yeah.
• 27:32
  What did what did what do you take away from that game?
• 27:34
  Well, for either team, either way, what are you feeling strongly about right now?
• 27:38
  It's hard to out coach Andy Reid.
• 27:40
  Well, yes.
• 27:41
  So that's true.
• 27:42
  Yeah.
• 27:43
  And then I don't know.
• 27:44
  I mean, Pat Mahomes look good.
• 27:46
  I mean, he almost threw for 300 yards, 291, three touchdowns.
• 27:51
  Then Kareem Hunt just looks like a man on a mission.
• 27:54
  Kareem Hunt.
• 27:55
  Kareem, I love that guy.
• 27:56
  Believe it.
• 27:57
  Yeah.
• 27:58
  He comes in and does the job.
• 27:59
  That's all he's doing.
• 28:00
  Given the explosiveness back to that offense after losing Pacheco and they desperately
• 28:04
  needed something else.
• 28:06
  They went through Steele.
• 28:07
  Steele wasn't the job.
• 28:08
  You know, he had one.
• 28:09
  He had the one game.
• 28:10
  Yeah, the one game that I mean, I definitely was like, oh, he might be a might be a problem.
• 28:13
  But yeah, Kareem Hunt, he knows the offense, he knows those patch your homes, knows Andy
• 28:16
  Reid, knows the Chiefs.
• 28:18
  And Kareem probably loves playing in that stadium.
• 28:20
  He doesn't.
• 28:21
  I wouldn't want to play in that stadium.
• 28:24
  They love him.
• 28:25
  You can tell.
• 28:26
  No, no doubt.
• 28:27
  But I mean, the Chiefs still airing it out with 44 pass attempts from Mahomes.
• 28:31
  But Kelsey finally waking up.
• 28:33
  Kelsey waking up.
• 28:34
  Team reception.
• 28:35
  Yes, sir.
• 28:36
  What a great acquisition.
• 28:37
  That catch.
• 28:38
  The catchers just like you're thinking there's an easy interception.
• 28:44
  Then Deandre Hopkins comes down with it just like, well, that's why he is Deandre Hopkins.
• 28:48
  I remember those plays when he played for the Titans, when he played for the Cardinals,
• 28:51
  he did all that kind of business.
• 28:52
  And that's what Rob said last week is catch radius is just insanity.
• 28:55
  You're insanity.
• 28:56
  What do you got?
• 28:57
  I mean, when you lose a guy like Rashid Rice and then you trade for a guy like D Hop, I
• 29:02
  mean, that's just a more experienced possession receiver you're getting.
• 29:07
  And he proved it.
• 29:08
  Eight receptions, 86 yards, two reception touchdowns.
• 29:11
  I mean, you just gave the Chiefs a really good weapon.
• 29:16
  I hate it.
• 29:17
  I hate it too.
• 29:18
  And Travis Kelsey finally had 100 reception yards for the first time this season.
• 29:23
  So good to see.
• 29:25
  What about Xavier?
• 29:26
  Were they only getting two targets?
• 29:27
  Yeah.
• 29:28
  What was it?
• 29:29
  Zero?
• 29:30
  He's just a big zero.
• 29:31
  Yeah.
• 29:32
  I still think he's going to be that he's going to be their deep.
• 29:34
  He's boom or bust.
• 29:35
  I mean, it's pretty much boom or bust with him.
• 29:37
  You pretty much got to hit him deep or hit him on an open slam.
• 29:40
  I mean, he almost had that open touchdown.
• 29:41
  He just walked out of bounds on his second foot.
• 29:43
  I mean, literally almost walked into the end zone, beat the defender on the outside, had
• 29:47
  the free safety coming over top and he had him beat.
• 29:49
  Just walked out of bounds.
• 29:50
  But besides all, he's pretty much boom or bust.
• 29:52
  That's how I felt about him since he's came into the league.
• 29:55
  So he's a really good player, good acquisition in the draft by the Chiefs, which was just
• 30:00
  crazy because don't know why people just let him ride to the Chiefs.
• 30:05
  Yeah, I think I'll go for it.
• 30:09
  I feel like like every chiefs player is kind of boom or bust because like Andy Reed is
• 30:15
  such a good coach.
• 30:16
  Right.
• 30:17
  And when he finds something in a game that he can expose, he does it.
• 30:20
  And like, they put up they put it was a like punch for punch battle with Tampa Bay and
• 30:25
  they ran the ball 27 times like Tampa Bay ran the ball 19 times total and Kareem ran
• 30:32
  the ball 27 times.
• 30:34
  So like for you to be running the ball that much, still be that successful offensively.
• 30:40
  Like he's got to know what he's doing.
• 30:41
  And I feel like we see it all the time when Rashid Rice was there, he would all of a sudden
• 30:45
  snag 12 targets in a game and just go off.
• 30:49
  And then all of a sudden you see they're running back, do the same thing.
• 30:51
  So yeah, or we know whether it's Kelsey this past week, like I feel like it's just kind
• 30:56
  of whoever Andy wants to highlight.
• 30:58
  For sure.
• 30:59
  It's fun to watch, man.
• 31:00
  He's insane.
• 31:01
  You mentioned the 27 carries from Kareem Hunt, and I'll let that kind of segue into the
• 31:05
  Buccaneers a little bit.
• 31:06
  I think that the last the final drive for the Chiefs and then the overtime drive, you
• 31:13
  could just tell the Buccaneers are just they do.
• 31:15
  They're just beat up.
• 31:16
  They're tired like the Chiefs.
• 31:18
  I was impressed, actually, for the first time this season, this Chiefs game actually impressed
• 31:23
  me where I was like, OK, now they're starting to be a little bit of that eight.
• 31:28
  No, you know, like a real eight, no, because I was kind of thinking they're fakers undefeated
• 31:31
  a little bit.
• 31:32
  But the fact that they were able to beat them up and pound them and literally pound them
• 31:36
  into the ground and tire them out so much that it's just like so kind of.
• 31:40
  And then by the time they're ready to stop the run finally on like third down, then Patrick
• 31:44
  Holmes does this thing, you know what I mean?
• 31:46
  And the little shuttle pass, you know, it's just.
• 31:49
  What are you going to do, man?
• 31:50
  I mean, it's worth mentioning, Jamal Dean was out for the Buccaneers, but still, I mean,
• 31:55
  it's a tough ask for Josh Hayes, who's a rookie for the Buccaneers.
• 31:59
  But like you said, Andy Reid, he's just a surgeon surgeon as an offensive coach.
• 32:06
  I like that term.
• 32:07
  I like that term.
• 32:08
  But he does it all.
• 32:09
  I mean, he literally coaches everybody around.
• 32:11
  You know, I'm feeling like anybody who come into that offense and could literally just
• 32:14
  eat.
• 32:17
  Before we move on real quick, just because I got to know.
• 32:19
  Sorry, Buccaneers fans.
• 32:20
  We've talked about you guys a lot.
• 32:21
  I liked what Baker Mayfield gave you this week, that he gave you a nice, tough, gritty performance.
• 32:28
  The gentleman up here, who do you think will win that NFC South?
• 32:32
  I know Atlanta's six and three in Tampa Bay's four and five right now.
• 32:36
  But do you think Tampa still has a shot at the NFC South or is Atlanta just so hot right
• 32:41
  now that it's just no chance?
• 32:43
  I also move on.
• 32:44
  I wouldn't say no chance, but I would give I would I would say the Falcons are proud
• 32:47
  to take it away.
• 32:48
  I mean, Kirk Cousins is got a lot.
• 32:50
  He's eating right now.
• 32:51
  He's eating.
• 32:52
  Definitely.
• 32:53
  He's got a lot of weapons.
• 32:54
  Kyle Pitts.
• 32:55
  He's got Bijon Robinson, Drake London when he's healthy.
• 32:58
  You know, on that defense, they just they pick up the guy from the Patriots.
• 33:03
  Yeah, the pass rusher.
• 33:06
  Yeah, pass rusher.
• 33:08
  Ushe?
• 33:09
  Yeah, Ushe.
• 33:10
  Sorry about that.
• 33:11
  But yeah, I mean, Falcons, I would say, yeah, but at the same time, Bucs can definitely
• 33:16
  give them a run for their money in the season.
• 33:18
  All right.
• 33:19
  Fair enough.
• 33:20
  I think if if Monday night's game proved anything, it was that the Buccaneers are better than
• 33:28
  we thought.
• 33:29
  I mean, you just said that like they that game that the Chiefs won against them solidified
• 33:33
  an eight and oh team in your mind.
• 33:35
  But they're the Bucs are four and five.
• 33:37
  They don't have Godwin or Evans.
• 33:39
  They're good for and they look great for four and five.
• 33:42
  I mean, you know, they they look solid to give the Chiefs a run like that.
• 33:46
  Like, I don't know.
• 33:48
  I think that yeah, I think they can compete with just about anybody with the way Baker's
• 33:53
  playing right now.
• 33:54
  I don't know if that can continue.
• 33:56
  I've been saying that for nine weeks now, so we'll see.
• 34:00
  But man, he looks good.
• 34:02
  He looks good.
• 34:03
  Like who's Kate Otten?
• 34:04
  All right.
• 34:05
  Like you'd have to be in the fantasy.
• 34:06
  Well, I know that guy.
• 34:07
  And he's got deep in the tight ends.
• 34:08
  Seven yards.
• 34:09
  One.
• 34:10
  Yeah, good.
• 34:11
  Hate to cut you guys off, but we got to keep rolling here right into the Bears at Cardinals.
• 34:21
  Another one we don't have to spend a ton of time on.
• 34:23
  But what is the Bears biggest malfunction right now losing twenty nine to nine to Arizona?
• 34:28
  Why does it get hot?
• 34:30
  Wide receivers that defense got gashed.
• 34:33
  Yeah, that's who boy.
• 34:34
  Run defense wide receivers.
• 34:36
  Then Ikeen and Allen.
• 34:37
  I was excited for Keenan Allen coming to the Bears and I'm a huge Vikes fan.
• 34:41
  I'm a Chargers fan, so that hurt me.
• 34:42
  I was so excited.
• 34:43
  But at the same time, I see them come in this last week, drops everything I felt like.
• 34:48
  Yeah.
• 34:49
  And then Caleb Williams is literally playing.
• 34:50
  He's playing well.
• 34:51
  That's what I'm saying.
• 34:52
  I wasn't ready to give up on Caleb Williams.
• 34:53
  He's playing well.
• 34:54
  It's just like wide receivers are not playing up to their caliber.
• 34:57
  I think they're not holding their end of the bargain.
• 34:59
  The Dune's day is pretty much it.
• 35:00
  Yeah, and Dune's day is literally it.
• 35:01
  He's the only one.
• 35:02
  So if you just double him, like DJ Moore is just not quite doing enough.
• 35:06
  And then, yeah, Keenan Allen with the drops.
• 35:07
  Deandre Swift is just like silent.
• 35:09
  I mean, he had the one week besides that, but it's just like he's not really.
• 35:13
  I thought he was doing pretty good.
• 35:15
  He started.
• 35:16
  He started.
• 35:17
  He started this this week.
• 35:18
  Kind of proved.
• 35:19
  I mean, Jonathan Gannon has done a great job with the Cardinals.
• 35:22
  He really has.
• 35:23
  I mean, he's completely turned the culture around.
• 35:27
  And this NFC West is completely winnable, in my opinion.
• 35:32
  And the Cardinals are playing their best ball right now.
• 35:34
  And I'm as a Vikings fan, I'm afraid actually leading NFC West right now.
• 35:38
  Yeah, five and four.
• 35:39
  Who would have seen that?
• 35:42
  I wrote it here.
• 35:43
  Gosh, they look like a good high school football team.
• 35:46
  Like they run 75 percent of the time.
• 35:49
  James Connor looks eating.
• 35:52
  Unbelievable.
• 35:53
  They and Kyler Murray comes out of the game.
• 35:55
  They score like how many points did they score?
• 35:57
  Twenty nine points.
• 35:58
  Kyler, one hundred and fifty four passing yards.
• 36:01
  Where does this come from?
• 36:02
  And Harrison Jr. had barely any.
• 36:06
  I think a big drop.
• 36:07
  Yeah, big drop and then the fumble.
• 36:09
  Yeah, the fumble.
• 36:10
  The fumble.
• 36:11
  Yeah, the fumble.
• 36:12
  Yeah, that's tough.
• 36:13
  Yeah.
• 36:14
  But yeah, Cardinals are getting hot.
• 36:16
  Bears are not.
• 36:17
  They're also 0 and 4 in their away games this year.
• 36:21
  The Bears are.
• 36:22
  So cannot win away from Chicago.
• 36:25
  So that's not good for us Vikings, you know, once we go to Chicago this year.
• 36:29
  But I don't think we play them till the end of the season.
• 36:31
  Yeah.
• 36:32
  No.
• 36:33
  We play them three weeks.
• 36:34
  And then three weeks.
• 36:35
  Yeah.
• 36:36
  And then they come here on December 16th.
• 36:37
  That's what it is.
• 36:38
  All right.
• 36:39
  I'm going to the Bears game.
• 36:40
  So not weird.
• 36:41
  Nice.
• 36:42
  Nice.
• 36:43
  Excited for that.
• 36:44
  Oh, Flores is going to have fun with a rookie quarterback.
• 36:47
  Oh, yeah.
• 36:48
  Oh, man.
• 36:49
  He's going to make it.
• 36:50
  He's coming after him.
• 36:51
  Hopefully it's reminiscent of the Texans game.
• 36:52
  Caleb Williams is going to be going on three miles before that game is done.
• 36:56
  Back and forth having our D line chase around.
• 36:59
  With that, Kev, that'll wrap our week nine game recaps.
• 37:21
  And to start off our tent talk, as always a tent talk.
• 37:25
  As I heard, I need to enunciate that, so it's not Ted talks.
• 37:30
  It's not 10 talks.
• 37:32
  It's tent.
• 37:33
  T-E-N-T.
• 37:34
  Talk.
• 37:35
  We were very proud of that when we made it last season.
• 37:37
  Tent.
• 37:38
  Anyway, injuries.
• 37:39
  Dak Prescott to miss multiple weeks with a hamstring and coming out today that he is
• 37:46
  probably going to IR.
• 37:48
  CD Lamb injury doesn't seem to be serious.
• 37:51
  Okay, cool.
• 37:52
  I don't know why I put that down.
• 37:53
  I think he's playing next week.
• 37:54
  Zach Moss running back for the Bengals.
• 37:57
  Out indefinitely according to head coach Zach Taylor.
• 38:01
  Not ideal.
• 38:02
  Some of our news right off the bat.
• 38:04
  Dennis Allen becoming, man I heard this on the radio like at three in the morning today
• 38:11
  and I can't remember what it was.
• 38:13
  But Dennis Allen fired, becomes like the fifth head coach since 2016 or something to start
• 38:18
  the season 2-0 and then end up getting fired in the same season.
• 38:23
  The Raiders OC Luke Getzi also fired.
• 38:26
  CMC returns to practice.
• 38:28
  His practice window is at least open.
• 38:30
  He has missed the first eight games this season.
• 38:33
  Chiefs could get Pacheco back late November maybe so now we could see Pacheco and Kareem
• 38:39
  Hunt backfield for the Chiefs heading into the playoffs.
• 38:42
  That is scary.
• 38:45
  Not good.
• 38:46
  Baron Browning traded to the cards from the Broncos.
• 38:49
  Believe he's a pass rusher if I remember right.
• 38:52
  Zedarius Smith also traded to the Lions, somebody I'm not that scared of.
• 38:56
  MarShawn Latimore, big one here traded to the Commanders.
• 39:03
  What an amazing move.
• 39:04
  We might have to talk about that in a second.
• 39:06
  Bengals pick up Khalil Herbert running back from the Bears to supplement that Zach Moss
• 39:11
  out indefinitely.
• 39:13
  I don't know why I have Tyler Bass hitting a 61 yarder to beat the Bills right here but
• 39:17
  I just think kickers need a little bit of love sometimes.
• 39:20
  When you hit a 61 yarder to win the game, oh wait not to beat the Bills, what am I talking
• 39:26
  about?
• 39:27
  To win for the Bills actually.
• 39:30
  Oh man that was ridiculous.
• 39:34
  Anything that you need to touch on right now on any of that?
• 39:38
  Like MarShawn Latimore to the Commanders?
• 39:40
  That's news to me I didn't even know about that.
• 39:41
  That's nice for the Commanders.
• 39:44
  That defense is organized.
• 39:45
  I didn't even know at first they had Bobby Wagner.
• 39:49
  I just really don't keep up with the Commanders like that so that was just like when I hear
• 39:52
  they already got Bobby Wagner and MarShawn Latimore is coming in now, that's nice.
• 39:56
  The Commanders are not playing around dude.
• 39:58
  There's 7 and 2 right now and first in the NFC East.
• 40:00
  Who would have seen that coming into this season?
• 40:03
  I literally picked Dallas to win the freaking division because I figured they were finally
• 40:07
  over their hump and I'm wrong.
• 40:10
  So I'm glad people listen to our show.
• 40:15
  I feel like the GM of the Commanders is like, whoa look what we're doing here.
• 40:19
  I think we might have a shot.
• 40:21
  Just like the rest of us it's kind of crazy.
• 40:24
  I don't know if they had this kind of expectations on the interior but they are putting up like
• 40:29
  I don't think anybody expected them to so it's cool for them.
• 40:34
  Especially in Washington when they've had a rough couple of years.
• 40:39
  That's another team I'm okay with them winning right now.
• 40:42
  It would be okay if they won the bowl out of the NFC over the Bikes.
• 40:46
  Hold on now.
• 40:48
  Hey Tyler you got me going there now.
• 40:54
  We're just talking from wherever now.
• 40:57
  I mean they do look good.
• 41:00
  Dan Quinn has led a Super Bowl team before with the Falcons, didn't win it but he's with
• 41:05
  the Commanders now so he obviously knows what it takes.
• 41:08
  That offense is really molding under Cliff Kingsbury.
• 41:12
  Another good situation for a rookie quarterback to come into.
• 41:15
  I mean Jane Daniels is firing on all cylinders and it's really surprising to see considering
• 41:21
  they traded Jahan Dotson.
• 41:23
  Got rid of that former first overall pick but Terry McLaurin my goodness.
• 41:28
  Scary Terry.
• 41:29
  That's my guy.
• 41:30
  He is a reason they call him Scary Terry.
• 41:34
  He's always been good but he has completely revived his career.
• 41:38
  He's got a quarterback throwing him the ball now.
• 41:41
  Yeah.
• 41:42
  Jane Daniels, I had high hopes for Jane Daniels coming out of LSU.
• 41:46
  He threw for almost 5,000 yards at LSU last season.
• 41:51
  I knew he was going to be some special.
• 41:52
  I wanted the Vikings to go get him but he's not going to be there.
• 41:56
  That was a pipe dream.
• 41:57
  I was still happy with what we got.
• 42:01
  But like you said they have Brian Robinson there, Austin Eckler is there and then like
• 42:07
  you guys said Scary Terry so you have a guy with sure hands, a veteran running back and
• 42:12
  then a young running back who is explosive as can be.
• 42:15
  It is a great situation for Daniels and their offense looks really good.
• 42:21
  The only thing that can hurt them is if somebody gets hurt or their defense gives up too many
• 42:26
  points.
• 42:27
  They've been giving up a lot but it's kind of led the door open to Daniels just thriving
• 42:32
  in his rookie season.
• 42:33
  So before we move on, can the Commanders beat the Lions in the NFC Championship game?
• 42:38
  No.
• 42:39
  We're going to be in the NFC Championship.
• 42:41
  If the Vikings are not obviously we know the Vikings are scullable.
• 42:46
  I think if that's the situation even Vegas odds are going to be pretty well favored as
• 42:52
  far as the Lions go.
• 42:53
  I think we'll see a little bit of something from the Commanders this week.
• 42:57
  They got the Steelers this week and we'll talk about it in a bit here but that's going
• 43:00
  to be another true test for them.
• 43:02
  If they can beat the Steelers followed by the Eagles, Cowboys, that's a good three game
• 43:06
  slate.
• 43:07
  I mean the Cowboys are meh but if they can beat the Steelers and the Eagles, the Commanders
• 43:12
  are for real.
• 43:13
  You've got to watch out.
• 43:14
  That's true.
• 43:15
  I think I'd still also pick the Lions to beat them but maybe that's NFC North Pride.
• 43:19
  I don't know.
• 43:20
  Man isn't that their thing?
• 43:22
  One Pride or something?
• 43:23
  NFC North Pride for the team that's been all incited.
• 43:26
  Apparently I'm a Detroit fan of Trey.
• 43:35
  Anyway with that Kev let's head right into Bonehead Move of the Week.
• 43:48
  And our Bonehead Move of the Week.
• 43:51
  You may or may not know where this is going.
• 43:53
  I don't know.
• 43:54
  It's been all over the place.
• 43:56
  It's already been talked about but not here.
• 43:59
  Not on Banter with the Boys where everybody listens.
• 44:02
  So Jason Kelsey was walking outside of Penn State's football stadium.
• 44:11
  What is it?
• 44:12
  Beaver Stadium?
• 44:13
  I don't know.
• 44:14
  Not Beaver Stadium.
• 44:15
  Whatever.
• 44:16
  You know what I mean.
• 44:17
  And some dude says some obscene language to him about his brother Travis Kelsey dating
• 44:22
  Taylor Swift.
• 44:23
  He freaks out and grabs said fella's phone.
• 44:27
  He doesn't just throw it on the phone.
• 44:30
  He literally slams that thing on the ground.
• 44:34
  Yeah.
• 44:35
  Cronks it.
• 44:36
  He's really onto that train.
• 44:37
  He cronked it and picked it up and was walking away with it.
• 44:39
  I was like oh my gosh.
• 44:42
  And then the video of the after part.
• 44:46
  Now he starts using that same language back at the fella which is the non-ideal part,
• 44:51
  the Bonehead part.
• 44:52
  I mean the phone.
• 44:54
  Here's my thing on the phone part.
• 44:57
  Whether you're famous or not, if somebody's in your face with a phone, like how annoying
• 45:01
  is this right now Dan?
• 45:02
  Like do you want to grab it out of my hand and throw it on the ground?
• 45:05
  Do it.
• 45:06
  You know what I mean?
• 45:07
  Nah I'm just kidding.
• 45:08
  Calm down.
• 45:09
  But you know what I mean.
• 45:10
  How annoying is that?
• 45:11
  Whether you're famous or not.
• 45:12
  Whether you're used to it or not.
• 45:13
  Come on man.
• 45:15
  At the same time.
• 45:17
  You got to have a little bit thicker skin with it.
• 45:21
  That goes for all of America.
• 45:23
  But have a little bit thicker skin.
• 45:24
  You know what I mean?
• 45:25
  I mean see Jason Kelsey on Monday Night Football.
• 45:27
  He's all happy and go lucky.
• 45:28
  So it's just like at the same time somebody gets excited like that, what's going to happen
• 45:32
  when they get mad?
• 45:33
  And now to save face a little bit for Jason Kelsey here on Banter with the Boys.
• 45:37
  He did come out and apologize before the Monday Night Football game last night on ESPN.
• 45:42
  Like brought it up.
• 45:43
  He didn't go through details because the details are out there.
• 45:47
  We can find them.
• 45:48
  I did.
• 45:50
  But he did apologize saying that that is not something he should be doing.
• 45:54
  He does not condone using that sort of language and all that.
• 45:57
  So I do want to make that known.
• 45:59
  But he absolutely is our bonehead move of the week.
• 46:02
  What are you?
• 46:03
  You got to stay under control a little bit as a professional athlete.
• 46:08
  Former.
• 46:09
  Yeah former athlete.
• 46:10
  But at the same time you got to stay under control.
• 46:12
  You're under the pressure and under the media.
• 46:15
  You got to make sure you stay.
• 46:17
  Somebody's always watching.
• 46:18
  Someone's always watching.
• 46:19
  The kid that was recording his phone smashed.
• 46:21
  But somebody else is always recording.
• 46:23
  Something's always riding.
• 46:24
  TikTok, Twitter, Snapchat.
• 46:25
  Something's always going.
• 46:26
  Something's always going.
• 46:27
  Dude, dealing with that for 20 years it's amazing that now or in the time that he does it.
• 46:32
  This is the first time we're really seeing something happen.
• 46:33
  If you're going to do it.
• 46:35
  I mean with that I think he's enjoying retirement a little too much.
• 46:39
  Yeah maybe.
• 46:40
  I think alcohol played a little factor into it.
• 46:43
  He was holding a case.
• 46:44
  He was holding a case.
• 46:45
  Oh yeah.
• 46:46
  He was holding a case.
• 46:49
  He was an ornery bear.
• 46:53
  Rightfully so.
• 46:54
  I mean.
• 46:55
  Yeah.
• 46:56
  Guys just trying to enjoy life.
• 46:57
  Exactly.
• 46:58
  And you got that going on.
• 46:59
  But again we're not.
• 47:00
  We are also here at Banter.
• 47:01
  The boy's not condoning that.
• 47:02
  But again why he's bonehead move of the week.
• 47:05
  Bonehead move of the week.
• 47:06
  Jason Kelsey.
• 47:07
  Kev let's move right into week nine.
• 47:09
  Preview and picks.
• 47:24
  All right all right.
• 47:26
  Before we get to our preview and picks we do need to update our listeners on our standings.
• 47:31
  I did not do the season win percentage because I involved a little bit more math and I had
• 47:35
  time for before the show.
• 47:37
  I know it's easy but leave me alone.
• 47:42
  Let's see.
• 47:43
  I guess we'll start with me because I'm at the top of the list.
• 47:44
  I went four and one this week.
• 47:45
  My Broncos selection was bad.
• 47:48
  So my season record is twenty eight and seventeen.
• 47:52
  Another fella whose season record is twenty eight and seventeen.
• 47:54
  Jake our Ravens fan also went four and one this week.
• 47:58
  The Bears did him in against the Cardinals.
• 48:01
  Let's see.
• 48:02
  Let's see.
• 48:03
  Another four and one this week.
• 48:04
  Trey Trey Trey went four and one bringing his season
• 48:07
  total to seven and three.
• 48:09
  The Bucks being his kryptonite this week.
• 48:12
  We had three perfects.
• 48:14
  We had three five and ohs.
• 48:17
  Rob of course went five and oh who is in Mexico right now I believe.
• 48:22
  Lucky twenty seven and eighteen on the season for Rob.
• 48:27
  One game back there of Jake and I.
• 48:30
  Five and oh from Matt.
• 48:32
  Matt is twenty five and fifteen on the season.
• 48:36
  He's probably right up there and win percentage with Tyler our leader.
• 48:40
  But Tyler had a bad week.
• 48:41
  We'll get to it.
• 48:42
  Graham went five and oh bringing his season total to seven and three as well.
• 48:46
  Just like Trey.
• 48:47
  So two newbies from the last two weeks now tied.
• 48:50
  Interesting race there.
• 48:52
  Let's see.
• 48:53
  Then we have Ben.
• 48:54
  So we got the last two Packer fans saved for last right where they belong.
• 49:03
  Ben went three and two this week bringing his season total to twenty one and fourteen.
• 49:07
  The Bears and of course the Packers let him down this week.
• 49:12
  Tyler our leader and most likely even after this rough week still our leader as his season
• 49:17
  record is twenty two and eight.
• 49:18
  Twenty two and eight having a stellar season.
• 49:21
  Yeah.
• 49:22
  Yeah.
• 49:23
  Even three and two this week.
• 49:25
  Also the Bears and the Packers letting him down.
• 49:28
  So if I had to take a wild shot in the dark here I'm thinking Tyler still our leader.
• 49:32
  I think Matt though moving up to twenty five and fifteen is going to be a pretty good win
• 49:37
  percentage.
• 49:39
  Ben might be right there at twenty one and fourteen and then of course Jake and I at
• 49:43
  twenty eight and seventeen Rob at twenty seven and eighteen.
• 49:46
  Some good things going on and then Graham and Trey again our newbies at seven and three
• 49:50
  a piece.
• 49:52
  So that being said it is now your guys's turn to be introduced into our picks if you will.
• 50:01
  Dan of Vikings are traveling to Jacksonville.
• 50:07
  What did he got.
• 50:08
  I did.
• 50:09
  I got there losing right.
• 50:10
  I got the Vikings in a close win.
• 50:13
  Whoa.
• 50:14
  Close win.
• 50:15
  The Jaguars have played in very close games this year.
• 50:18
  I mean but they've been playing from behind.
• 50:22
  You know they've fell behind twenty two to zero I think it was against the Eagles and
• 50:26
  made it a contest.
• 50:29
  The two weeks before that they fell behind ten to zero and ended up making it a contest.
• 50:33
  So this Jaguars team has talent.
• 50:36
  They just haven't really put it together yet and their record doesn't really show.
• 50:41
  I don't think they're a two and seventeen but this should be a winnable game I feel
• 50:45
  like.
• 50:46
  Winnable game.
• 50:47
  I would agree with you.
• 50:48
  I'm also going Vikings because I don't need to explain that.
• 50:52
  It's called the bull.
• 50:55
  You know what I mean.
• 50:56
  We're traveling to Jacksonville okay we're going to get some sun while we're down there.
• 50:59
  Sounds good but I totally expect the Vikings to come out with the doves.
• 51:03
  I totally.
• 51:04
  Well I had confidence in the Broncos last week too.
• 51:06
  That was a mistake.
• 51:09
  Do with that as you will.
• 51:10
  I don't know.
• 51:11
  You're both staring at me.
• 51:13
  I'm going to go with.
• 51:14
  I'm going to go with.
• 51:15
  I have Darth on the chart here.
• 51:19
  Cody what's your pick here.
• 51:21
  I'm taking the Vikings too.
• 51:24
  The Jags do look like a two and seven team to me.
• 51:27
  Trevor Lawrence looks like a two and seven quarterback.
• 51:30
  Their receivers look like oh and nine receivers.
• 51:34
  I mean aside from I know you guys mentioned last last week Brian Thomas.
• 51:39
  He looks unbelievable for for a rookie wide receiver.
• 51:44
  Just great.
• 51:45
  He plays physical he goes up to get the ball but man the Jags I don't know.
• 51:50
  I mean I agree.
• 51:51
  I think that the like they've been coming back in the second half in some games.
• 51:55
  But like I think as Vikings fans we saw the Vikings go up big time in the first half of
• 52:01
  a couple of games this year and then they let the other team back in because we're playing
• 52:05
  a little bit back but at no point during those games that I feel threatened by the other
• 52:09
  team and I think you know I know that they've given the Packers a good game.
• 52:13
  They only lost by three but like you guys said it last week the game did not feel anywhere
• 52:18
  close to twenty seven twenty four.
• 52:21
  Right.
• 52:22
  It just it just didn't feel close.
• 52:23
  So Vikes baby Vikes baby Dom.
• 52:28
  Easy money likes how many how many receiving yards for Justin Jefferson.
• 52:32
  One.
• 52:33
  He's going over a hundred easy over a hundred.
• 52:36
  I'll say one.
• 52:38
  I'm going one fifty seven.
• 52:40
  Whoa one fifty seven.
• 52:41
  What did he put up this season.
• 52:42
  I think one nineteen one thirty seven this week.
• 52:45
  Yeah one thirty seven this week and the Jags man.
• 52:49
  This is going to be fun to watch against the Jags.
• 52:51
  I'll say one twenty for sure.
• 52:53
  Over one hundred twenty definitely over one hundred twenty.
• 52:55
  Yeah.
• 52:56
  All right.
• 52:57
  I like it.
• 52:58
  Well just I'm still filling them in here.
• 53:00
  Rob also going with the Vikings.
• 53:01
  Tyler our Packer fan going with the Vikings.
• 53:05
  Trey the flipper to Detroit but I know he's lying.
• 53:09
  Also going with the Vikings.
• 53:10
  Ben our Packer fan going with the Vikings.
• 53:13
  Matt going with the Vikings.
• 53:14
  It is Vikings nation here.
• 53:17
  Vikings get in the dub in Jacksonville.
• 53:19
  Go to the no doubter.
• 53:20
  Go to the bowl.
• 53:21
  Go to the bowl.
• 53:22
  All right.
• 53:23
  Our next game Packers.
• 53:24
  Usually we also do the Packer game.
• 53:26
  Obviously Packers are on by this week.
• 53:29
  Much needed by hopefully J. Love will not hopefully for the Vikings but hopefully for
• 53:34
  his personal self personal self.
• 53:37
  Yeah sure.
• 53:38
  Hopefully J. Love you know can heal up this week and come out strong for the Packers next
• 53:42
  week I guess.
• 53:43
  Yeah I don't know why I'm talking about that.
• 53:46
  Bangles at Ravens.
• 53:47
  There we go.
• 53:48
  Let's start over here.
• 53:49
  Bangles at Ravens.
• 53:50
  What you got though?
• 53:51
  Bangles Ravens.
• 53:52
  I definitely I know Joe Burrows just threw for five Tuddy's last week.
• 53:57
  It was nice.
• 53:58
  But let's just be honest.
• 53:59
  We got the Ravens right here.
• 54:00
  Lamar Jackson.
• 54:01
  King Henry.
• 54:02
  Zay Flowers.
• 54:03
  Easy pick.
• 54:04
  Let's get the Ravens.
• 54:05
  Easy pick.
• 54:06
  Let's get the Ravens.
• 54:07
  Easy pick.
• 54:08
  Dan is this an easy pick.
• 54:11
  This is not an easy pick.
• 54:12
  You know when it comes to rivalry games a lot of teams give it their all.
• 54:18
  You know.
• 54:19
  But I do think the Ravens win in a high scoring affair.
• 54:23
  It'll be 31-28 type contest.
• 54:27
  We know how explosive the Bangles offense can be but their defense gives up a lot of
• 54:31
  points as we know from this season and that's why their record is four and five.
• 54:36
  So give me the Ravens.
• 54:39
  Give you the Ravens.
• 54:40
  Dan going with the Ravens.
• 54:42
  I got to change your name in this right now because I was about to call you Darth again.
• 54:45
  I'll go with Darth.
• 54:46
  That's fine.
• 54:47
  Apparently it's just going to happen.
• 54:49
  It's fate.
• 54:51
  But what we got.
• 54:53
  Bangles at Ravens.
• 54:54
  Yeah I'd have to agree.
• 54:55
  I'm taking Ravens.
• 54:56
  Ravens beat them 41-38 back in the beginning of October so you know I'd have to think that
• 55:02
  it's going to be something similar to that.
• 55:05
  Truthfully I think whether it's a blowout or not just depends on if the Bangles and
• 55:08
  Burrow can keep doing what they've been doing for the last few weeks.
• 55:12
  So yeah.
• 55:14
  But Ravens.
• 55:16
  And I'm taking the spread too if that's the question.
• 55:19
  And taking the spread.
• 55:20
  You don't get any bonus points here.
• 55:21
  They're six and a half point favorites.
• 55:23
  I do not think the Bangles keep up.
• 55:26
  You do not think the Bangles keep up?
• 55:29
  I don't.
• 55:30
  I think it'll be a high scoring affair.
• 55:31
  I know their game earlier this year was close but yeah.
• 55:35
  Maybe it's the aura from the Ravens last game last week that is just floating in my head
• 55:41
  but they look too good.
• 55:43
  Oh they do.
• 55:44
  Look too good.
• 55:45
  And I really want to go Bangles here.
• 55:47
  I do just to be a little bit different.
• 55:49
  Right now the only other person that went Bangles is Rob.
• 55:52
  I have Jake's picks.
• 55:53
  I haven't put him in here yet.
• 55:54
  I know Jake's not picking the Bangles to beat the Ravens this week because he's a Ravens
• 55:58
  fan.
• 55:59
  But I think I agree with you.
• 56:01
  I think it's going to be pretty high scoring.
• 56:03
  It's going to be an interesting game.
• 56:04
  I just don't think the Bangles have enough yet but maybe this is the start of the turn
• 56:10
  for them.
• 56:11
  Like you said five tuds for Joey B. last week.
• 56:15
  Does he still have the bleach blonde hair?
• 56:16
  Yeah he's still got the M&M look.
• 56:19
  Alright so that is starting to work now because they were like maybe it's the hair.
• 56:22
  He's got to chop it.
• 56:23
  So he didn't chop it so.
• 56:25
  Oh I don't know.
• 56:26
  I'm going Ravens.
• 56:27
  I'm going Ravens.
• 56:28
  It's just that one is also an easy one for me.
• 56:31
  I think their offense is just too much right now for anybody in the AFC to handle at the
• 56:36
  moment.
• 56:37
  So I'm just going to put in Jake Ravens because I already know that's going to be the thing.
• 56:43
  For everybody not here Ben also going with the Ravens.
• 56:46
  Matt going with the Ravens.
• 56:47
  Tyler going with the Ravens.
• 56:49
  Trey also going with the Ravens.
• 56:51
  And myself.
• 56:52
  I already mentioned LOL.
• 56:55
  Graham and Rob both picking the Bangles this game.
• 56:59
  So that's interesting.
• 57:00
  Let's see what happens.
• 57:01
  Some discrepancy.
• 57:02
  It's not a bad idea.
• 57:04
  Like he said it's a rivalry game.
• 57:06
  It seems to usually start as a pretty good game between these guys.
• 57:11
  It's just like a couple of times over the last few years that the Ravens have just pulled
• 57:15
  away from big ones.
• 57:17
  But some of them are like that game in October.
• 57:19
  Three points.
• 57:20
  The Bangles and Ravens have always been competitive as long as Joe Burroughs has been there.
• 57:25
  It's always been a game.
• 57:26
  And that's the division if you go back and listen to our preseason show when it was just
• 57:31
  Rob and I this season.
• 57:32
  We thought that was the division to beat out was the AFC North.
• 57:35
  No doubt.
• 57:37
  Hands down.
• 57:38
  Defenses are all over.
• 57:39
  All four of them are pretty solid.
• 57:42
  Got some pretty good quarterbacks in the division.
• 57:44
  So it is kind of a surprise to see it going this way.
• 57:48
  But yeah like you said always a division battle.
• 57:50
  Who knows?
• 57:51
  Who knows?
• 57:52
  Moving along.
• 57:54
  Steelers.
• 57:55
  This is probably our game of the week.
• 57:57
  I don't know.
• 57:58
  I think this is going to be a good one.
• 58:00
  Steelers traveling to wherever the heck they play.
• 58:05
  DC traveling to Maryland to play the commanders.
• 58:08
  Dan.
• 58:09
  I'm going to go with the Steelers.
• 58:13
  Dan going with the Steelers.
• 58:16
  I think that Steelers defense is going to suffocate Jaden Daniels much like the Bears
• 58:20
  did before they won on the Hail Mary.
• 58:25
  And they have the pieces to do it.
• 58:27
  They just traded for Preston Smith who I think can contribute on the Steelers defensive line
• 58:33
  heavily.
• 58:34
  They just went out and got Mike Williams.
• 58:36
  So another deep threat for Russell Wilson.
• 58:39
  I think Steelers are gearing up to win this division and this game will prove to do that.
• 58:46
  They have all the pieces to do it and Tomlin will have these boys ready to win.
• 58:49
  100%.
• 58:50
  It's going to be a great test for them.
• 58:52
  Yes.
• 58:53
  Yeah.
• 58:54
  Take it away.
• 58:55
  Take it away.
• 58:56
  Just go right into yours.
• 58:57
  Well first of all Mike Tomlin is like.
• 58:59
  Legend.
• 59:00
  Unbelievable.
• 59:01
  One of the best.
• 59:02
  Former Vikings.
• 59:03
  Russell Wilson is going to be leading a what 6 and 2 team at this point.
• 59:07
  I would not have guessed it.
• 59:09
  No.
• 59:10
  Insane.
• 59:11
  So I got to give him a lot of credit on that.
• 59:13
  I am going to take the commanders.
• 59:16
  I love the offense versus defense battle that we're going to have in this game.
• 59:20
  Just because I don't think that the Pittsburgh offense is going to be you know blowing anybody
• 59:24
  out of the water making the Washington commanders like try to chase points at all.
• 59:29
  So it'll be a lot of fun to see like what the two schemes add up to but I'm going to
• 59:33
  take the commanders.
• 59:34
  I think it's going to be a great game.
• 59:36
  And once again just never thought I would be saying that about the Steelers this year
• 59:39
  but.
• 59:40
  Yeah.
• 59:41
  Fun to watch.
• 59:42
  That's definitely.
• 59:43
  Yeah go for it Tom.
• 59:44
  Yeah you go first.
• 59:45
  You go before me.
• 59:46
  My bad.
• 59:47
  I would say commanders.
• 59:48
  I like Jay McDaniels a lot.
• 59:49
  I'm a huge Jay McDaniels guy.
• 59:50
  I mean I drafted him in fantasy football.
• 59:53
  There's a reason why.
• 59:55
  You know I love the guy and commanders are just looking super dominant.
• 59:58
  I know that last week Russell Wilson had a good weekend.
• 1:00:01
  The Steelers are six and two but week to week the commanders are just putting it all together.
• 1:00:07
  I just love the swagger.
• 1:00:08
  Dan Quinn.
• 1:00:09
  That's.
• 1:00:10
  They do have the swagger.
• 1:00:11
  That swagger is crazy.
• 1:00:12
  I mean Dan Quinn comes in the building and hat backwards ready to go fired up and I just
• 1:00:16
  love things like that.
• 1:00:17
  And I just take the commanders this week.
• 1:00:20
  Commanders.
• 1:00:21
  I'm also going commanders this week.
• 1:00:23
  I just think Jay didn't I mean.
• 1:00:25
  Again the Steelers.
• 1:00:29
  I do have a good defense.
• 1:00:30
  It does startle me but I think Jayden is just too much right now.
• 1:00:34
  He's just too much right now.
• 1:00:35
  He's playing outstanding.
• 1:00:37
  You know Rob mentioned last week or maybe the week before.
• 1:00:40
  Can you put Jay McDaniels in the CJ Stroud window you know at this point.
• 1:00:46
  Man he's getting ever so closer.
• 1:00:47
  I think if they pull this game off he's right there for me at this point.
• 1:00:51
  Right.
• 1:00:52
  100 percent.
• 1:00:53
  But I got to go commanders this week.
• 1:00:56
  Let's see.
• 1:00:57
  Only Rob and Dan win Steelers.
• 1:00:59
  Everybody else is commander in this thing up.
• 1:01:02
  So I love it.
• 1:01:04
  Yeah well just like everybody I feel like everybody else in the country is in the same
• 1:01:08
  boat with us as the Steelers like they don't just don't trust yet but you guys can see
• 1:01:12
  their offense.
• 1:01:13
  The defensive light.
• 1:01:14
  I love the defense.
• 1:01:15
  I get like a turnover in their end of the zone and I mean you're going to only have
• 1:01:20
  to ask for 20 yards to get into the end zone if you're the Steelers.
• 1:01:24
  I think that's what TJ Watts capable of.
• 1:01:26
  He can strip sack it maybe one two times this game.
• 1:01:29
  Yeah for sure.
• 1:01:30
  Moving right along to our Sunday night game Lions at Texans.
• 1:01:36
  Before I get your guys's picks.
• 1:01:39
  Everybody not here said the Lions are winning this game.
• 1:01:42
  Every single person have said the Lions are winning this game.
• 1:01:44
  That's why I'm going to Texans.
• 1:01:46
  The Texans are finally going to flip the script.
• 1:01:49
  They're finally going to get back on track.
• 1:01:50
  Detroit is finally going to lose a game.
• 1:01:53
  It's going to happen.
• 1:01:55
  They're playing in Houston in prime time.
• 1:01:59
  Get excited about it.
• 1:02:00
  Kev so excited he's throwing things.
• 1:02:02
  Yeah you think so.
• 1:02:06
  Yeah I think so yeah.
• 1:02:08
  I like it man.
• 1:02:10
  I'd have to go the Lions.
• 1:02:13
  You don't you don't sound that positive.
• 1:02:16
  I'm just wondering does your prediction include Nikko Collins coming back or does it not matter?
• 1:02:21
  I'm hoping that Nikko Collins is back.
• 1:02:24
  It doesn't matter.
• 1:02:25
  Yeah I think the Lions got to come back to earth at some point.
• 1:02:28
  I think they're they could still finish the season only a two or three loss team.
• 1:02:32
  Something's got to happen one the Vikes are going to be one.
• 1:02:34
  So it's you know man.
• 1:02:37
  Yeah I don't know I think Nikko Collins helps him a lot.
• 1:02:40
  You know he's in the lead wide receiver.
• 1:02:42
  He doesn't help anybody but just like physical let him take Dell do more of what he's specialized
• 1:02:47
  to do helps a lot and just kind of having them in their roles.
• 1:02:50
  But yeah man I don't know.
• 1:02:52
  Joel Mixon is good too like.
• 1:02:55
  And ever since he came back their offense has started to flip around a little bit.
• 1:02:58
  I know they're intriguing and wanting the Lions to win.
• 1:03:01
  I'm really tempted to take your side but I'm not going to.
• 1:03:04
  But I'm not going to.
• 1:03:05
  I'm sorry buddy.
• 1:03:06
  No I'm taking the Lions.
• 1:03:07
  Fair enough going to the Lions for Cody, Darth.
• 1:03:10
  Dan know what.
• 1:03:12
  No shut up for a minute.
• 1:03:13
  Damn Dom.
• 1:03:14
  Damn Dom.
• 1:03:15
  Hey I'm going to ride with you Tyler man.
• 1:03:18
  We're going to take them Texans man.
• 1:03:21
  Let's go.
• 1:03:22
  I talked them into it.
• 1:03:23
  I like CJ Stroud.
• 1:03:24
  I mean before before there was Jay McDaniels it was CJ Stroud for me.
• 1:03:28
  So I mean I'm a huge CJ Stroud guy.
• 1:03:30
  They got Daniel Hunter.
• 1:03:31
  We all know about Daniel Hunter.
• 1:03:33
  So I mean he can.
• 1:03:35
  He's quiet.
• 1:03:36
  Don't worry.
• 1:03:37
  I'm just going to take the Texans.
• 1:03:40
  I mean I just want to see if they can just take down Jared Goff.
• 1:03:43
  They got to get back on track to win their division.
• 1:03:45
  I mean the Colts could sneak up or something.
• 1:03:47
  Colts I mean like I said they gave us a run for our money last week.
• 1:03:51
  Jaguars could win this week and go on a run.
• 1:03:53
  Let's hope not though.
• 1:03:54
  Yeah.
• 1:03:55
  Ain't no way.
• 1:03:56
  Ain't no way.
• 1:03:57
  Dan.
• 1:03:58
  Man you guys are making me want to join the clan.
• 1:03:59
  Nope it's already in the thing.
• 1:04:02
  All right.
• 1:04:03
  Locked in.
• 1:04:04
  As much as I want the Texans it's going to be the Lions.
• 1:04:06
  I'm sorry.
• 1:04:07
  Just being a realist.
• 1:04:10
  If the Texans would have took care of business against the Jets last week then maybe I would
• 1:04:13
  say yes but this is not.
• 1:04:15
  Which is a very fair point.
• 1:04:16
  This is not the Jets.
• 1:04:17
  This is.
• 1:04:18
  Which is why they need to get back in.
• 1:04:19
  Maybe the best team in the NFL currently.
• 1:04:21
  So as much as I want the Texans the Lions like I said earlier they're a well oiled machine
• 1:04:28
  and they're going to keep on trucking.
• 1:04:30
  The motor kitties are well oiled.
• 1:04:32
  Until somebody can replicate that defense that the Buccaneers had for them that week
• 1:04:37
  three week four game where they did suffer their first loss then yeah maybe.
• 1:04:42
  But no I just don't see anybody stopping them right now.
• 1:04:45
  Fair enough.
• 1:04:46
  Fair enough.
• 1:04:47
  That brings us to our final game of the week.
• 1:04:49
  This game has the most discrepancy between everybody so far.
• 1:04:53
  49ers traveling to Tampa Bay.
• 1:04:56
  We got Rob, Jake, Ben and Tyler taking the 49ers.
• 1:05:00
  We have Matt, Graham and Trey taking the Bucs.
• 1:05:03
  I'll go first.
• 1:05:05
  Who wants it?
• 1:05:06
  Oh we got it.
• 1:05:07
  49ers have Bucs.
• 1:05:08
  Lay it on us.
• 1:05:11
  I'm taking the Niners.
• 1:05:12
  I think CMC comes back and I'm taking them.
• 1:05:15
  I think their offense is just I mean with Christian McCaffrey it's elite.
• 1:05:20
  I mean even without him.
• 1:05:22
  Yeah like they had this Gorrindo kid in and they're still doing good.
• 1:05:29
  I think he rushed for like 18 for 90.
• 1:05:31
  So yeah I think their offense is made to thrive.
• 1:05:35
  Their defense might be the thing that holds them up in this one but yeah I'm going to
• 1:05:39
  take the 49ers.
• 1:05:41
  Which is weird to say that their defense could be the thing to hold them up when we thought
• 1:05:44
  that or at least I know I thought that 49ers defense was going to be one of the top this
• 1:05:47
  season and we just haven't seen it quite yet.
• 1:05:51
  But Dom, actually nope.
• 1:05:53
  Dan.
• 1:05:54
  Damn Dan.
• 1:05:55
  I'm going to take the 49ers in a close contest.
• 1:06:00
  Unbelievable.
• 1:06:01
  What about taking risks this week?
• 1:06:02
  I think the 49ers defense is super fast.
• 1:06:07
  Can cover and the Bucks offense has been nothing short of awesome this year but I think their
• 1:06:12
  defense is just too darn good.
• 1:06:13
  CMC is coming back.
• 1:06:15
  That offense is going to be lightning in a bottle.
• 1:06:16
  Is he officially coming back?
• 1:06:18
  He's practicing.
• 1:06:19
  He's practicing.
• 1:06:20
  Not for sure.
• 1:06:21
  I'm predicting.
• 1:06:22
  I said I'm predicting.
• 1:06:23
  He's questionable.
• 1:06:24
  He's questionable.
• 1:06:25
  Yep.
• 1:06:26
  So I'm predicting CMC to come back.
• 1:06:30
  So Cody's predicting he's coming back.
• 1:06:33
  So if you.
• 1:06:34
  I'm going to ride.
• 1:06:35
  I'm going to ride.
• 1:06:36
  We'll go 49ers.
• 1:06:37
  I just think Kyle Shanahan just Kyle Shanahan is just that good of a coach.
• 1:06:42
  He'll have these boys ready to go.
• 1:06:44
  49ers.
• 1:06:45
  49ers.
• 1:06:46
  All right.
• 1:06:47
  49ers.
• 1:06:48
  Dom, what we got.
• 1:06:49
  I'm also here to take risks.
• 1:06:50
  So let's go Baker Mayfield.
• 1:06:51
  Yes.
• 1:06:52
  I'm going to change it up a little bit.
• 1:06:54
  We'll take it.
• 1:06:55
  You know Baker Mayfield has been showing me something for the last two seasons with the
• 1:06:59
  Bucs, not just this season.
• 1:07:01
  Last two seasons.
• 1:07:02
  I'm happy that he got back got back on his feet and able to just play good ball because
• 1:07:05
  I'm here.
• 1:07:06
  He was also one of those guys, like I said, about the NFL, not he was taking flack, taking
• 1:07:11
  flack left and right.
• 1:07:12
  Came to the Bucs last season, took him to the playoffs this season and see if we can
• 1:07:16
  do it again for them.
• 1:07:17
  And right when he came to the league and I'm not trying to speak on anybody else's character,
• 1:07:22
  not in front of them, but like Baker Mayfield was charting a trend and maybe that's just
• 1:07:25
  what Cleveland does to you.
• 1:07:26
  I don't know.
• 1:07:27
  No offense.
• 1:07:28
  He was going towards a Johnny Menzel train.
• 1:07:30
  And that was, you know, and then all of a sudden flip the script there.
• 1:07:32
  So no, like you said, it's really good to see him back.
• 1:07:34
  That's why I'm going Bucs as well.
• 1:07:37
  Bucs are going to beat the 49ers this week at home in front of their home fans back on
• 1:07:43
  track, making a charge at the Falcons for the division, like I predicted at the beginning
• 1:07:49
  of the season.
• 1:07:50
  That's the only reason why I mentioned it.
• 1:07:56
  You're not picking this game, but I did want to mention that this game I'm trying to find
• 1:08:01
  when it actually starts locally here.
• 1:08:03
  Okay.
• 1:08:04
  I did want to mention I was going to have the Giants at Panthers be a game.
• 1:08:08
  So we kind of have a little bit, a couple lower tier teams that we can start talking
• 1:08:11
  about because we've talked about all these teams all season pretty much, but that's what
• 1:08:15
  happens when you're good.
• 1:08:17
  But I just couldn't do it.
• 1:08:18
  Not this week.
• 1:08:19
  Even with the Packers by I figured I could sneak a lower tier game in there.
• 1:08:23
  No way.
• 1:08:24
  There's too many good ones this week.
• 1:08:25
  But I did want to mention the Giants at the Panthers playing in Germany this week.
• 1:08:29
  So here in Minnesota, that's eight 30 in the morning locally on Sunday.
• 1:08:33
  So you guys going to be up for that one?
• 1:08:35
  No.
• 1:08:36
  I don't know if anybody's going to be up for that one.
• 1:08:39
  Dan immediately.
• 1:08:40
  Y'all do not have kids.
• 1:08:41
  Y'all do not have kids.
• 1:08:42
  Hey, I'll still be up at $6.
• 1:08:43
  We've got to talk for an hour and a half before that one starts waiting.
• 1:08:44
  I love those London and Germany games.
• 1:08:45
  Some to do that early.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  Like if you have them on fantasy.
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  If you have them on fantasy, you can do that.
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  I like videos and videos.
• 1:08:50
  I like videos and videos.
• 1:08:51
  I like videos and videos.
• 1:08:52
  I like videos and videos.
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  I like videos and videos.
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  I like videos anyways in the morning.
• 1:08:55
  I don't you mean it.
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  Yeah.
• 1:08:57
  Oh, fellas, fellas, we're pretty much all wrapped all wrapped this week.
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  I appreciate you guys being on.
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  Yeah, it's been a pleasure.
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  This has been something special.
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  I'll tell you what.
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  Bless.
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  Bless.
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  That's all I can really say right now.
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  No, for sure.
• 1:09:13
  No, I really appreciate you driving an hour and a half to be on our show this week, by
• 1:09:16
  the way, with his live audience.
• 1:09:18
  That's not on camera.
• 1:09:19
  Should we spin the camera around?
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  No.
• 1:09:22
  No.
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  No.
• 1:09:24
  We appreciate you guys being here. We appreciate you making the drive and think thanks for being on me
• 1:09:30
  Thank you guys for having me. I know it's awesome talking right you're off about it all football season
• 1:09:34
  And I've wanted to do it. This was this was well worth it. Yeah good good. No appreciate you
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  coming with crazy notes
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  I'm so happy we finally got to meet hopefully
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  You're on the wild pod that may or may not be starting in the near future. I can't wait man. I'm looking forward to it
• 1:09:54
  Yeah, thank you for having me today
• 1:09:56
  Thanks to Sippy behind the scenes
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  Kev getting Cody on here for us today. It's been an excellent addition all you guys did an excellent job
• 1:10:05
  Just appreciate you guys taking the time and being on our show for sure with that
• 1:10:10
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• 1:10:17
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• 1:10:19
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