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Foot health, with the element of luxury · Health Matters

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  Speaker 1: Now Health Matters with Daniel Martin. Welcome into Health Matters
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  Speaker 1: right here on CN A 938. I'm Daniel Martin. It's
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  Speaker 1: so good to have your company once again as we
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  Speaker 1: zoom in on the importance of foot health, but
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  Speaker 1: with the element of luxury. Yes. What am I talking about? Well, today,
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  Speaker 1: first off, OK. This is interesting. I first started interviewing
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  Speaker 1: about my guests specialty of blending together foot health and
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  Speaker 1: luxury treatment. Back in 2013, I checked my records 2013
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  Speaker 1: and I met him and learned about it directly from
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  Speaker 1: him in 2014 and interviewed him. Then again,
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  Speaker 1: he has continued to bring his specialty to Singapore in
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  Speaker 1: this new collaboration with Raffles Spa that's just been announced.
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  Speaker 1: Sebastian Gonzalez is back in Singapore. You would have heard
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  Speaker 1: of him, of course, from his world renowned treatments out
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  Speaker 1: of
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  Speaker 1: Paris and now in Asia as well. So what is
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  Speaker 1: happening in terms of the blend of French podiatry as
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  Speaker 1: well as luxury and what does it mean for the
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  Speaker 1: pedicure of 2025 and beyond? It's a pleasure to once
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  Speaker 1: again meet up with Bastian Gonzalez and learn about his
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  Speaker 1: new collaboration with Raffael Spa, Bastian. Welcome back to Singapore. Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Louis Louis Daniel. Thank you very much for having
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  Speaker 2: me today. I'm so proud and be able to see
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  Speaker 2: you in uh
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  Speaker 2: as you just mentioned after COVID being back to Singapore
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  Speaker 2: these last three years where uh I uh started Asia
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  Speaker 2: in Singapore. And uh and since Asia really blow, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we are in many countries around Southeast Asia and uh
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  Speaker 2: and as we met also in other places around Asia,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm very pleased to be able to come back
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  Speaker 2: in Singapore, but especially with, with uh with here at
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  Speaker 2: raffles because uh we have so strong value together since
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  Speaker 2: partnership being uh
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  Speaker 2: elaborated over time, you know, we have some beautiful regular
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  Speaker 2: customers which are now very happy last night at a
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  Speaker 2: dinner with some of them who are so excited that
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  Speaker 2: I don't need to go anymore to Hong Kong to
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  Speaker 2: do my feet. But with you,
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  Speaker 1: so
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to travel for luxury. It's right here,
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  Speaker 1: which is great because Singapore was where you started your
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  Speaker 1: footprint in Asia.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. From the beginning, actually, you're right. You know, we,
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  Speaker 2: we and I only have one place because I love
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  Speaker 2: to be a destinations. So and and Singapore was really
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  Speaker 2: the opening of, of Asia but to come back to Singapore,
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  Speaker 2: which is very important to me. I have a very,
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  Speaker 2: very loyal clients and as you ask me how you
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  Speaker 2: blend po and luxury,
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  Speaker 2: I will look at luxury with two fundamentals pillars which
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  Speaker 2: are quality
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  Speaker 2: and uh services, you know, quality is what the knowledge
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  Speaker 2: bring you, you know, education is something very strong and
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  Speaker 2: we come back about education after because that's the big
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  Speaker 2: news but, but services is what uh is raffle about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you have a mixed of uh history, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with working here with uh raffles and a mix of knowledge,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with technology and with science. And uh
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  Speaker 2: that's where it's important to uh to look at pedicure.
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  Speaker 2: And to start as a redefinition, pedicure is about curing feet.
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  Speaker 2: It's not about nails, it's not about painting. It's about
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  Speaker 2: feet are not only nails, you have feet, you have
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  Speaker 2: skin who can be damaged. You have mobility of feet,
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  Speaker 2: 26 bone, 103 gamma, 51 muscles. And I'm taking only
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  Speaker 2: 1 ft,
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  Speaker 2: your hip, it's two bones, it's one ligament and your
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  Speaker 2: hips have zero muscles. You have your hip operated the
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  Speaker 2: same day. You're on your feet the day after you
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  Speaker 2: walk a week later, you're on a bicycle a month,
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  Speaker 2: you have no problems. You have your bones operated, which
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  Speaker 2: I'm totally against. Four months later, you're still in pain.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a, it's a very unknown part of your
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  Speaker 2: body and it's a part which can give you so
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  Speaker 2: much because it's like the foundation of your house. If
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  Speaker 2: you have good foundations, then you have a good uh
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  Speaker 2: a good way to, to go ahead. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's also the part of the body with, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: at some point, a good foundation,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't pay attention to it. It does so
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  Speaker 1: much work for us. But nobody, I don't think people
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  Speaker 1: even wash their feet in the shower sometimes. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I
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  Speaker 1: mean?
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  Speaker 2: It's so right. You're so right. You know, and, and, and,
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  Speaker 2: and then when I explain when I give these educations
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  Speaker 2: because when you come to us
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  Speaker 2: here in the spa raffles, we, we don't just do
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  Speaker 2: a pedicure, we give you an education. So education was
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  Speaker 2: very important for me through my team and I write
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  Speaker 2: a book which is around 400 pages, which took me
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  Speaker 2: seven years. That's what we call sop you know, the
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  Speaker 2: standard of, of protocol, which are very, very high and
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  Speaker 2: wherever you go in the world, you will have exactly
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  Speaker 2: the same treatment which is quality consistency, you know, that
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  Speaker 2: you delivering that brand is much more than just the
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  Speaker 2: name on the, on the door. And uh and people
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  Speaker 2: don't have food care educations.
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  Speaker 2: Asia is very bad habit of clipping the nails very down,
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  Speaker 2: you know, which is terrible like the what I'm sorry
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  Speaker 2: to say, but the Chinese pedicures will be more like
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  Speaker 2: a pedicure dealers, you know, where you have to go
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  Speaker 2: every month because you're in pain. The concept of curing
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  Speaker 2: is not the concept of having people hooked to you
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  Speaker 2: because you're under pain. It's about liberations. It's about having
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  Speaker 2: beautiful healthy feet and, and loving them. So more than
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  Speaker 2: the treatment is also the product who go with it.
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  Speaker 2: And on sebastien, the product line that I developed over
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  Speaker 2: the last 26 years, I only have 1 ft cream.
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  Speaker 2: And every two or three years I would change that
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  Speaker 2: food cream and I would never put like a stamp
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  Speaker 2: on the new formula because my client, which I call
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  Speaker 2: ultra luxury people, people who have a true sense of
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  Speaker 2: quality and delivering experience. Because you were asking me earlier,
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  Speaker 2: what's what's new in the spa industry? What's new in the,
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  Speaker 2: it's I think
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  Speaker 2: the differentiations in the wellness industry, which is now $7
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  Speaker 2: trillion business. It's uh over the last 20 years, it's
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  Speaker 2: magical and Asia is a big part of it because
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  Speaker 2: you are the nest of spa. You know, you have
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  Speaker 2: this way of approaching uh you know, the the the body,
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  Speaker 2: the the wellness stretching, you know, you have all of that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the way you eat, you know, it's very different.
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  Speaker 2: So it's uh it's great to be able to bring
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  Speaker 2: the knowledge into it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: that. How is this knowledge going to be a part
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  Speaker 1: of the treatments being provided at raffles? But what is happening?
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  Speaker 1: Because like you said, you have a very strong emphasis
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  Speaker 1: in terms of training and in terms of quality and consistency.
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  Speaker 1: And I can attest to that. I've tried your treatments
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  Speaker 1: in
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  Speaker 1: Singapore in Da Nang Vietnam, in Hong Kong. Uh I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to try the one in Japan, but the thing
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  Speaker 1: is over the years I've tried them and they were
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  Speaker 1: consistent and there was this idea of actually curing the
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  Speaker 1: foot through podiatry and through these pedicure treatments. Let's put
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  Speaker 1: it that way.
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  Speaker 1: How have you brought that to what's happening to the
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  Speaker 1: Raffles Bar? Is it the same concept of consistency and training?
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  Speaker 2: We have an amazing room which is absolutely beautiful. We
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  Speaker 2: have a fantastic chair that we develop in, in Italy
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  Speaker 2: with uh six different engines uh form on the chair.
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  Speaker 1: Your chairs were always quite unique and special to your treatments.
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  Speaker 2: We
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  Speaker 2: don't want to go out because you know, they have
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  Speaker 2: c molding forms will go on to your back. So
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  Speaker 2: that's one aspect. But in terms of the treatment,
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  Speaker 2: nothing has really changed because quality when you reach it,
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  Speaker 2: it's not about adding, it's about maintaining perfections. And as
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned about my cream that I will make my
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  Speaker 2: cream more performance because we have a new molecule. We
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  Speaker 2: have a new, I will work, for example, on drills.
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  Speaker 2: I will work with a new concept of drilling inspired
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  Speaker 2: by sports uh car industry. I know sports car industry
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  Speaker 2: are big in Singapore but you know, see break nowadays
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  Speaker 2: the with ceramic
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  Speaker 2: uh I use the same with a German company we
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  Speaker 2: developed a drill which when you turn and you touch
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  Speaker 2: the skin for the abrasions as it's ceramic, you have
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  Speaker 2: no heat coming out
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  Speaker 2: so you don't burn anymore. And one of the main
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  Speaker 2: problems with treatments of what people call abuse called pedicure.
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  Speaker 2: They over file and when they over file in the salon,
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  Speaker 2: they burn the skin. You have these heat sensations, heat
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  Speaker 2: sensation is an aggression on the skin
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  Speaker 2: and the skin will react by building calluses. So more
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  Speaker 2: you file more calls you have, which is a very
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  Speaker 2: bad habit to have to over file. And as the
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  Speaker 2: skin is being over fed, the skin break, one of
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  Speaker 2: the key element elasticity abusing the elasticity by over filing
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  Speaker 2: with a stone or with a file will also break
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  Speaker 2: the elasticity. And the two value. The first things I
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  Speaker 2: do when I do a pedicures, I touch and pinch
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  Speaker 2: the skin up
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  Speaker 2: because I want people to understand what the skin is about.
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  Speaker 2: The skin is a glove to protect our body. So
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  Speaker 2: on the feet, the skin is seven times bigger than
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  Speaker 2: on your face. So if you want a good cream,
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  Speaker 2: you have to have very powerful active to penetrate the
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  Speaker 2: water in. So all seas knowledge is what I put
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  Speaker 2: together into the treatment. So when you come to uh
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  Speaker 2: raffle Singapore in our spa today, in that beautiful pedi
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  Speaker 2: many cure studio, you know, the cure is very important
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  Speaker 2: more than having this beautiful luxury environment. You have this
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  Speaker 2: very detailed treatment, three step, cure the nails, feet, antony nails,
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  Speaker 2: cure the skin. And we have different technique out of
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  Speaker 2: dry skin because it's allowed me to be much more
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  Speaker 2: precise than water. When you put your feet in water,
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  Speaker 2: you over moisturize your skin. So as a therapist, you
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  Speaker 2: will never see where is the limit between the good skin,
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  Speaker 2: bad skin, dry skin because it's full of water.
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  Speaker 2: And then finally, the most important in the pedicure, why
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  Speaker 2: we have these amazing regular customers, foot massage and foot
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  Speaker 2: up to the knee.
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  Speaker 2: I like to compare the feet with a puppet. 26 bone,
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  Speaker 2: 103 ligament, 51 muscles. So to move the puppet, you
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  Speaker 2: have C strings which are the muscles of the leg.
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  Speaker 2: So I must work on the legs to liberate the
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  Speaker 2: tensions and the blockage on the skin, on the, on
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  Speaker 2: the joint. Sorry
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  Speaker 2: and uh walk around Singapore over the last three days.
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  Speaker 2: We have a fantastic time. You see, see these beautiful
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  Speaker 2: women on high heels. I think it's very nice to
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  Speaker 2: see still women on high heels. And that's not in
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  Speaker 2: more the case in New York or London or Paris.
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  Speaker 2: They're all on slippers on, on the sneakers. You have
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  Speaker 2: seen the this after eight centimeters, uh six centimeters high heels,
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  Speaker 2: you completely block your feet,
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  Speaker 2: every shoes with more than six centimeters. You are dis
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  Speaker 2: locking your feet and you say six centimeters high heels,
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  Speaker 2: women look at you and they laugh, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: starts at 9, 1012 loin went into 16 centimeters as
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  Speaker 2: a man. You know, I, I don't understand, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we never go there, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But uh it's, uh and I don't care, you can
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  Speaker 2: wear high heels, you can wear nail polish, but you
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  Speaker 2: have to be aware of what it means to your nails.
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  Speaker 2: You have to be aware of what it means to
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  Speaker 2: the mobility of your feet and every problem of the solutions,
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  Speaker 2: which is what we give. When you come to the
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  Speaker 2: pedicure studio at the Raffles Singapore, we give you an
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  Speaker 2: education on how I can stretch my feet, stretch my toes,
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  Speaker 2: how I can clean my nails, you know, in the
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  Speaker 2: cure of the nails, the first step of her treatments.
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  Speaker 2: So overseas education is key and that's the base of
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  Speaker 2: my success because people want to do something. And as
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned at the beginning, we have no education, we
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  Speaker 2: don't even consider them, but it's like the foundation of
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  Speaker 2: your house. How much are you ready to invest on
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  Speaker 2: your own house, on your feet, you know, on your foundations,
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  Speaker 2: to be able to walk around and to be able
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  Speaker 2: to stand and to be comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: I think besides our heart, which is pumping all the time,
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  Speaker 1: we are using our feet. So we're on our feet
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  Speaker 1: with the workhorse of the body. Unfortunately, and we've barely
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  Speaker 1: pay attention to it. I love what you said about.
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  Speaker 1: This is something that I encountered over the years when
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  Speaker 1: I went to your studios as well, your studio managers,
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  Speaker 1: because they podiatry trains would always impart a tremendous amount
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  Speaker 1: of knowledge in terms of no, what you're doing is bad.
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  Speaker 1: Try and change that. What you're doing is different. Do
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  Speaker 1: this instead.
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  Speaker 1: And they give me tips and advice in terms of
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  Speaker 1: whether or not to use powder and the socks when
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  Speaker 1: I go out or whether or not how to trim
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  Speaker 1: it on my own at home. And that's the thing that, that,
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  Speaker 1: that education that is grounded in the science and the
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  Speaker 1: medical as well. Can you talk to me about how
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  Speaker 1: did you bring in the luxury? Because you, you
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  Speaker 1: always revamp and change the idea of the pedicure in
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  Speaker 1: Singapore in Asia. A lot of the times it's a
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  Speaker 1: quick 1, 20 minute one. So I can go every
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  Speaker 1: week chop chop, jump into it. Maybe not so hygienic
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  Speaker 1: in some of the road cases across the countries. How
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  Speaker 1: do you bring in the luxury component?
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  Speaker 2: So you, you drop a few ideas which are very important.
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  Speaker 2: Number one is yen, you know, nowadays, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: people get
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  Speaker 2: every tools we use are not clean, they are sterilized.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like being in a hospital, we have uh
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  Speaker 2: what we call an autoclave and the tools are clean
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  Speaker 2: and sterilized and we open these bags in front of
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  Speaker 2: the guest respect, which is also a comp a very
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  Speaker 2: important aspect of luxury. Then details all the details you cannot,
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  Speaker 2: could make a quick fix. When you have problems, you
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  Speaker 2: have steps to respect. You know, if you want to
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  Speaker 2: cook
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  Speaker 2: AAA good dish, you have to respect, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: you do Patti three and I love, you know, being
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  Speaker 2: French Patti three, it's a, it's a fine art because
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  Speaker 2: you put exactly the right amount of sugar or the
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  Speaker 2: way you mix together the way you move. What treatment
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  Speaker 2: is the same? We have uh five steps just for
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  Speaker 2: the nails. We have three different steps for the cleaning
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  Speaker 2: on the side of the nails
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  Speaker 2: which is not cut ulous. And there's a misunderstanding between
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  Speaker 2: cuticle and dead skin on the side of the nails.
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  Speaker 2: We have five steps again for the skin. We have
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  Speaker 2: another six step when you do the massage. So details
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  Speaker 2: the accumulation of details, which is a concept of luxury.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about luxury earlier as a quality and services
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  Speaker 2: quality as a knowledge. The service is an accumulation of details.
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  Speaker 2: I remember, you know, when I was uh working with
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  Speaker 2: the not who imposed me the owner of the hotel
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  Speaker 2: to his, to his to his son saying to his
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  Speaker 2: GM I want Bastien to my all my hotels because
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  Speaker 2: when I want my client going to the pool of
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  Speaker 2: perfect feet
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  Speaker 1: right.
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  Speaker 1: Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and that's one detail,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a sin of luxury, you know, so I
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  Speaker 2: think luxury come with a lot of details, attentions to details,
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  Speaker 2: respect of details, not to cut short. And over the years,
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  Speaker 2: I've trained many podiatrists who left and that's their own
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  Speaker 2: right to move to, you know, I like when people
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  Speaker 2: come in and out with a with a good memories
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  Speaker 2: and all the one who tried to copy me
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  Speaker 2: at one point, cut it short
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  Speaker 2: by making more customers by having more booking by. But
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  Speaker 2: by cutting short, you're breaking the luxury component of it
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  Speaker 2: because it takes time
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  Speaker 2: when you look at watch, you know, we are crazy
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  Speaker 2: about watches nowadays. Look how many P CS you have
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  Speaker 2: in one watch. You know if you look at the
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  Speaker 2: top beyond. So the concept of luxury, all these little details,
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  Speaker 2: pedicure being very neglected. Pedicure being abundant in five star
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  Speaker 2: spa because they don't generate money, pedicures being
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  Speaker 2: you know, destroyed two nails and I'm fighting pedicure is
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  Speaker 2: not nails, the nails is the skin and most important
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  Speaker 2: the mobility of the feet, the
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  Speaker 1: blood flow to the nails. I learned so much about that.
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  Speaker 1: I learned about using a toothbrush on my nails.
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  Speaker 2: You know that
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  Speaker 1: to
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  Speaker 2: be a good when
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  Speaker 2: you follow
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  Speaker 2: your homework,
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  Speaker 1: you know, then you don't get the cuticle, you don't
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  Speaker 1: get the dead skin build up at the side. I
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  Speaker 1: remembered all of this because
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  Speaker 1: Danielle you know, it was ground, it made so much
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  Speaker 1: sense and it was what I was looking for, which
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  Speaker 1: is this idea of. It's not about the prettiness of
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  Speaker 1: the foot. It's about the health of the foot.
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  Speaker 2: It's about the health. But then it's also about uh
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  Speaker 2: beauty because you want to look beautiful. And nowadays in
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  Speaker 2: the spa, you were asking me, what's the spouse to
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  Speaker 2: the trends? It's this mix of natural beauty, women more
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  Speaker 2: and more as men wants to be naturally beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we stop so much the intense me and
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  Speaker 2: the medical involve with natural beauty and what we do
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  Speaker 2: with our pedicures, we make your nails naturally beautiful. So
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  Speaker 2: we don't do anti aging, we do hetero aging and
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  Speaker 2: that's the concept of the future of beauty. It's about
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  Speaker 2: looking younger and feeling younger.
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  Speaker 2: So when you come to us with your feet at
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  Speaker 2: any stage, we make them look younger and
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  Speaker 2: healthier.
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  Speaker 1: That is phenomenal. I'm curious just to very quickly as
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  Speaker 1: we wrap up the duration of the treatment, still roughly
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: the same. It's not, this is not a 30 minute
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: walk in, cut your nails and walk out situation, folks.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: It's redefined how long?
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: One hour, one hour, 15 minutes, depending on the feet,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: but it's no more than 75 minutes. Very important to
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: me to bring Cesar JC, the French love to do
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: with their smiles. But also in the same time as
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: his very unique knowledge And as you want to wrap up,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I want to say thank you Daniel for having me.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: And I want to also let you know that these
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: two years of COVID being very hard, but also amazing
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: because I take the times as you know, I'm traveling
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the world every four days. I took the team for
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: two years to invent a whole program with the French government.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: And I invented a new science called Pedicure Anology Step
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Pedicure and Manicure stand by the French Education System. 278 hours,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I tried to redefine pedicures. After 25 years, I realized
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: that it was a lost cause. So let's create my
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: own category in between poat where very medical wants to
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: operate
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: and his beauty field, which I'm not against nail polish.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: But I always say to ladies, how long do you
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: keep your makeup on your face? How long do you
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: keep your makeup on your nails?
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And why are
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: you doing that with your nail polish
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: then?
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So you can paint your nails but never more than
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: three days because after three days, the pigment burned the
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: nails and discolored the nails and out of the 97,000
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: PICO de Bastian we did last year worldwide. It's his
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: beautiful destinations.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Raffles Singapore being the new one. It's um impressive that
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: more than 95% of the women leaving your treatment don't
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: ask for colors. So it's a new step of pedicures.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not against it, you go out, you have your
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: hair done. You put this beautiful dress, you have your handbag,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: which is green. I want green nail polish. I don't
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: know the way they chew their colors, but I'm not
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: going so much in their heads. But
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I have a one step where you cure and one
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: step where you have beauties. You know, it's a two
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: different thing. You have a facialist, you have a makeup
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: artist and more and more in the fashion show in Paris,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: which I'm very connected with. You don't have you makeup artist.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: You have facialist backstage to make the skin glow. We
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: are into a natural beauty moment because nothing can compete
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: with natural beauty.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: On that note, I've been speaking to Bastian Gonzalez for,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many times now since 2013, but
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure having him back on the show
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and to see that he's left his footprint in Singapore.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: And more importantly, trying to change the way we think
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: about our foot health combined with luxury. Trust me, you
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: won't think about the pedicure the same way. Again, my
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: name is Daniel Martin. This is health matters. It's CN
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: A 938.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Before making any decisions. Based on the information in our program,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: please consult a medical professional.