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Ep. 31 | Cryptids, Ghosts & Gatekeepers | Sasquatch & Sourdough x Cryptid Women’s Society · Sasquatch & Sourdough

• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: So, welcome back to Sasquash and Sourdough.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: I am your host, Christina, and tonight I am very excited because I have two amazing women in the cryptid field, and they're in two different countries.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: So this is like the ultimate, right, international episode ever, and I'm so excited.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I have Lisa and Juliet from Cryptid Women's Society.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome, ladies.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I'm in Melbourne, Australia, and Lisa is in New Zealand.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_02: New Zealand's the capital city of New Zealand.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: Is it just like so?
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Do you guys just like run around and pretend that you're like in Lord of the Rings all day?
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's what I would do if I lived in New Zealand.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, all day.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes we dress up as a puppets running around.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_02: Run around with a puppet, put some hairy feet on.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, basically.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: I know that's totally just that's not what New Zealand's like.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: But every time I think of it, I'm just like, oh my gosh, it's just totally everyone was in the Lord of the Rings.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_03: Everyone's all of New Zealand.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_03: All of New Zealand.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: And Australia too.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you guys, oh, I just, I don't know.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited about this because not only do you guys have like wild cryptid stories, but you have like actual amazing animals and things that like I will never see except in a sad zoo.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I love that.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're we're we're very lucky here.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um where we are in Melbourne, like we see kangaroos, the kids have got kangaroos outside this school.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: We see kangaroos every day.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um that side of it, we're very, very lucky.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um but we you know, we also have to put up with the creepy crawlies and bits and pieces.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: So oh yeah.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_02: Giant spiders, giant spiders, the size of your head.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like, no, no, thank you.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_02: And in New Zealand, in New Zealand, we're totally safe.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_02: So we walk around with bare feet, we don't wear shoes often.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_02: You can walk into the bush with no shoes on, you can go down to the beach, not a problem.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_02: Nothing will eat you here.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we must feel like so grounded.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: I would love to just be barefoot all the time.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: I hate wearing shoes.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, it's gotta be the best feeling.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just something that we take for granted, and then you go to another country and you're like, ugh, I have to wear shoes.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean such a draft.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm gonna put shoes on today.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, gross.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_01: Feeling stuck in my face.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: You get all the the crazy Aussies here that will run around and bear feet.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_01: My son is one of them.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, he wouldn't catch me dead.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, he he's a surfer as well, so he'll, you know, they all run down to the beach.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh nice.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy because the the last time I was up there, he's in Byron Bay, and the last time we were walking back from being at the beach, 10 minutes later, all his mates came back.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: We're like, oh my god, you guys just walked straight past a brown snake.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_01: It was curled up on the on the pathway, and I'm just like, yeah, everyone's in BF.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm just like, no.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, yeah, too many creepy crollies.
• 3:36
  unknown: No.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so what I like to do before um, so I want to hear all about um your the Cryptid Women's Society.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: Did I don't know which one of you wants to kind of start off, but I just if you could tell our audience, I found you guys on Instagram and I just fell in love with your content.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you guys have such a great just presence and it seems really needed, I think, right now.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to just share with like my audience the the heart behind it and how you got started, that would be awesome.
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we um so God, I don't know how many years ago now, Lisa.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Lisa Lisa and I have been friends for like well over 20 years now, isn't it?
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_01: We met it drama, caused a lot of chaos there and have continually kind of caused chaos since we've ever been around.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um I was kind of you know, we were both kind of like really into um like paranormal and strange stuff.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um we lived together for quite a long time and we lived in a haunted house.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: So we call it the Hat Wellington, and it was extremely haunted.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um so many people that came into that house had encounters.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we had encounters, we had our regular ghosts, one we named George, um, because he was he was actually turns out he's a hat man, which we didn't know about.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: We only learned about hat man probably what two years ago, maybe.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um wow.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we didn't really know that kind of yeah, that kind of what he was actually called.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_01: So we had George the Hat man in the house.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody saw George.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it just got to the point where we were like, oh my god, okay, dodge.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, you'd actually tell him after giving you the right.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_03: So you really got to know him.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_03: We we got to know him intimately sometimes.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_03: Unfortunately.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_03: It's terrorizing.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's not good.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, you knew he was in there and you're just like, George, get out for me, you know.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um goodness.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so then we yeah, so we lisa and I have always wanted to have a business together.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's just never really panned out.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: We're both very, very entrepreneurial, we've both had our own businesses through the years, um, and we always wanted to work on something together, right?
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: And we we just really couldn't really kind of find that that one thing that we wanted to do.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, COVID hit, I basically lost my job and stuff.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_01: I was working with engineers and like everything kind of went under.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I started like a little online store uh store selling like Bigfoot t-shirts, you know, and all that kind of stuff.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, cool.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um kind of fun.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but then Lisa and I basically, yeah, just after many wines and chatting, and we're just like, this is kind of really cool.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: We really kind of want to build this.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, and so it kind of it just kind of stemmed from there.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: Go Lisa, you tell Hisa.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_01: Lisa's turn.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh stress.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_02: I thought we were happening.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was real interesting because Julia and I have always, always had paranormal um encounters and we've got all these stories and stuff, and together neither of us really knew that when we first met each other, and we started, you know, at drama school and acting professionally and that sort of stuff.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but we knew that we were like connected in a former life.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like we always knew that there was like our energy was entwined somehow.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you meet those people that you're like, huh, met you before somewhere.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna cause some chaos here.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_02: So that's what we did.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and yeah, we've helped raise each other's children and and kind of grow in our families together.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, Juliet's traveled um massively around the world, and I've done a fair amount as well.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_02: And it was always something that was kind of sitting in the background, and we get itchy feet, you know, we're sitting at the arse end of the world, right at the bottom of the earth, just going, whoops, need to get to the northern hemisphere, you know, like there's so much more going on up there.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and so it's always kind of been sitting in the background.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, once COVID hit, man, that you know, it killed two businesses for me sitting in a car park, literally sitting in my car, tears rolling down my face as all the cancellations started coming through.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and you know, Juliet was in the same position where she was kind of what's happening, what's happening, you know, what, 150 um engineers in her in her um team and her business, and it all um folded.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: And it was it was really, really, really tough.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: And we know there's stories like this all over the world.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: I know, you know, we had it pretty hard in New Zealand, um, as far as closing the borders because we're such a little island, um, there there was just nothing all of a sudden.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Juliet had it incredibly tough.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like I think, you know, I say this quite often to people, but you don't really realize until you hear the details around what her and her family had to go through as far as the amount of time they dealt with lockdown, the parameters that were put in place, um, the lack of um connection and anything else that they were allowed to do, it was a very, very, very hard situation to be in.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, we're dealing with that fallout still, right?
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_02: Like, still, we're kind of like trying to get over it and stuff, especially from a business perspective.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, when Juliet says to me, Oh, I've got a I've started this online store and I'm selling Bigfoot t-shirts, and I was like, What is going on with you?
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, for real, it's like, I know you need money, bro, but come on, man.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like, oh you're like, you've lost your mind.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but these supernatural like encounters and stuff, but we like we never named George the Hat Man.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't know that that's what he was.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_02: We never named any of the other things.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: It was just obviously there's some sort of an opening in this house, and it was a highway, and stuff just kept you know coming on through, and and before that as well, and you know, every other kind of year that we were on this earth going, why am I flying?
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_02: Why am I in a different place now?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_02: Why are there time slips?
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, all sorts of weird stuff going on.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um and yeah, and so then when she uh yeah, it's really, really odd.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like when you start kind of going back into it, you're like, oh yeah, that was that was really weird now that I know what that was.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: That was crazy.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um is that what started getting you into like the research?
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Was your own experiences, would you think?
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: Or yeah, definitely.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think you know, we like Lisa and I, you know, like you know, again, because we were in different countries, so we would sit there with our glasses of wine at night and we would just talk shit, basically.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: And just I mean, this thing came out of us was horrendous, but made a great podcast, I should have just done it.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um and the ideas and stuff.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, the the paranormal stuff and all the encounters and all that kind of stuff just kept kind of coming up, and um it kind of came from there, and we're just like, you know, I wonder if other um people have had the same thing.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: And and Leslie and I have always wanted to have a business that supported women, that that's always our goal, it has to support women 100%.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, so we started you know talking to other people about you know what we were doing and kind of ideas, and you know, then they like we're saying their experiences, you know, people start telling us their experiences and and women, and it's kind of where it kind of came from, mate.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: It was just suddenly like we just suddenly realized there was literally nowhere for these women to go, there was nowhere for them to go into a private area where they could talk about their experiences, you know, because not everybody wants to go onto a podcast and and you know, shout it out to the world.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, there are women there that just wanted to know that they weren't crazy, and that that's a horrible thing to say because that's how they felt.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: They felt, am I crazy?
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: I've just had a UFO experience.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: I saw a UFO, I saw a Bigfoot, I have seen demons, I have seen this, but nobody believes me, and I just think that I'm going crazy.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and it's it was it's a place where women can come and talk about their experiences and know that other women have had the same experiences or similar experiences.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, and it's a way for them to kind of understand it more and to know that they're not alone.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: And that that's kind of that was kind of like the the gist behind it.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: It was just, yeah, we wanted this supportive kind of place for them.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then it just grew.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: How many numbers would you say you guys have?
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: Do you how many, like how many people do you think are like kind of part of this society?
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have like do you have numbers?
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: Do you we have uh we have a couple of different levels, but then we also have our like our extended network that feed into the society with all of the research and bits and pieces that are going on.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: So we're probably I don't know, like a couple of thousand now with um the people that are kind of you know following and helping and then integral parts of it as well.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and strangely enough, like a lot of our members and our followers come from the states, and we weren't expecting that at all.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: We were we were kind of like, oh you know, it'll be local, New Zealand and Australians, and then we were like, oh, okay.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_02: But to your uh point, Juliet, talking about, you know, like we're called the Cryptid Women's Society, but as we started kind of getting into this, we realized that there was crossovers into all of these different areas, and we were like, we have to take that into account.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_02: You can't simply do cryptids or cryptozoology without looking at paranormal, and then that takes you into your ufology, and then that takes you into cosmic connections and ancient societies and civilizations, and so we developed this thing called the cosmic framework, which literally takes you through five different sections and shows it in a Venn diagram as how they uh cross over and connect with each other, and it was something we thought, okay, we've got to lay that out first because we were trying to figure it out in our minds as well.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: How does this all work?
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's so huge.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: But it's taken a couple of years, it's taken a couple of years to kind of really get it together, hasn't it?
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, yeah.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I guess like you know, when you have an encounter, like be it a UFO or an extraterrestrial encounter, there's always some form of like a supernatural or paranormal connection, or potentially like a another world or an ancient society connection, or you know, all these sort of other crossover points that um have to be recorded, and more so we were like, how the hell do you record this stuff and you know create some sort of a database from it or categorize it?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: And so we thought, okay, if we start with this, then we can build out from that.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's literally what's happened, eh Jills?
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, and it it's just kind of growing, like talking to women and kind of asking them, what do you want?
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: What do you want within this?
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: So it we've got, you know, we've got everything from you know, we're we're starting up our own university where women can come in and be like, hey, I want I'm really interested in doing paranormal investigations or research, but I don't know where to go.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, well, this is it.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we want this to be readily available for our members and for people and for women, you know, it's coming from a women's point of view.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, men go into investigations and research differently to how women do.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and we realize, you know, the number one thing that came out of it, there's a huge safety aspect.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: Women 100% think about safety first.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: We have to.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: And it's not from cryptids, it's not from ghosts, it's not from this, it's from other people, you know, and that's like another kind of area that we're working on is how to keep yourself safe if you're doing an investigation, if you're going into the bush, but it's not just from other people, but in general, how to keep yourself safe spiritually, and you know, so it's just opened up like this can of worms, and it's just growing and growing and growing.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's kind of uh, you know, what I think that I'm doing over here because I, as I was doing, you know, as my friend Crystal, I mean, I started this with my best friend, and we were seeing all of the same overlap, you know, we're seeing like, well, this person has a UFO encounter, but then there's also Bigfoot in the area.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: And as I was doing research, it was funny, I was sitting in the office here with my husband, and I was doing research in an area that had a lot of different types of encounters.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, I wish that there was a database because there's all kinds of websites that just do like UFOs or Bigfoot and all that.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: And my husband is a web developer, and he was like, Oh, I could create that for you.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's how like the website started, which I've done nothing with, but like it's just an encounter map that tracks different encounters, all kinds of encounters, because then somebody the same sort of thing is I can feel not alone because hey, I was in Ohio and I live here, and somebody down the street had the same encounter, you know, because it does, it makes you feel crazy when you feel alone in some of these things.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I love that.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: I love that you're building this.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's fun to just kind of have a foundation and not really know where it's gonna go and then just let it take off.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I love that you guys have done that so well, too, really.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's uh it's been kind of crazy because normally, like, we've run businesses before, and you never run it like this.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, there's structure.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, there's a plan.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: There's a plan and there's structure.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: This we kind of went, Alrighty, off we go.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: Where's it gonna take us?
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_02: Take us where we're going, and it's the first time in both of our lives, because we're super um, I don't know, I don't know if you want to use the word control freak, but control freak about our lives, you know, like wearing.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Type A.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_00: Type your type A.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Type A personality.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: Apex predator.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, like we are very strong in where we choose to go and how we choose to do it, and that's what's gotten us, you know, all over the world and amazing stories and you know, great situations to to be in where we can actually do this.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and Juliet's doing this full-time now, which is phenomenal, you know.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm so jealous of it.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said to her the other day, yeah, karma, you have to do all the social media, and then I went, damn it, I want to do all of that.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: That's not karma at all.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't intended, I might add.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: We got the the company that I was working for was made redundant.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: So this is the second time I've been made redundant.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just like, okay, there's somebody telling me something.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: I know it just kind of has all really fallen into place for you guys.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, very, very cool.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_04: It's a little hard work well.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh, absolutely.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: There's a there's a shitload of hard work behind it, but there's also like doing the right women have literally just stepped into the society and gone, we're helping, we're a part of this.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we've got amazing um scientists and women that have you know PhDs in all sorts of bits and pieces, zoology and biology and conservation and all of this sort of stuff.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and we've got so many guys that are helping to support us as well and push it all forward.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: And it's just um it's a really, really awesome thing because that then allows us to do amazing research.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it kind of started as this kind of community space where we just come and share and join in and um feel like you have a community, but also now we can research together and we can put all of our minds together on one topic, and we can then do an expedition, and then we can go and do A, B, C, and D.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's opening the doors up to so many different options, like the publishing company.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: You write a book and bring it to us, we'll publish it for you.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: I love that, you know.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: That is just so cool.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: And the dungeon.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: Can we just say we have a dungeon?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: This RAT for that interview from last week that you did was gone.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: And uh that'd be the perfect spot, you know, because we know there are women that will be coming in that don't want to talk about their cult or you know, other kind of dark stuff, or encounters and you know, and abductions and that kind of stuff.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: And some of them are are extremely graphic.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: So um we've done the dungeons, it kind of started for that, but there's also going to be a fun side to the dungeon.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: So RAT fun side and conversations.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_03: So um well, Christine is like, sign me up.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_03: You guys are crazy.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: So no, I'm I'm kind of stuck back on this research because now I'm like, you've got my wheels turning.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I want to know, do you have like is there something obviously it's something like kind of underground that you don't want to talk about or something that's still developing, but is there some research happening that you're really excited about?
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like, oh my god, stop it! Juliet's like, Lisa, stop telling people.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_05: Are you not supposed to tell?
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_03: What kind of question is that?
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: Tell us all your trade secrets.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: No, no.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: We've uh we've got heaps of things, like lots of little poker's in the fire at the moment.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um we are about to do something really exciting with a guy called Joe from the Ancient Enigma Files.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: And if you don't know the first shows that he did, I think we were number two or something like that.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: And uh so we're going back on his show to do something really cool and a nice little collab something kind of moving forward on a more regular with him, which is super exciting.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like his show a lot.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: He's the coolest dude, he is the nicest dude.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: He's a beautiful man, yeah.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: Really lovely person, he is.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_02: Conspiracy weird stuff, but um, he's a he's got a really good heart.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: He does, yeah.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: It definitely comes through in his work for sure.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's awesome.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so don't talk about that.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have to talk about um we focus in on the South Pacific, so like a lot of what we do is Southern Hemisphere sort of stuff.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, lately we've been talking about um the Chinese Yerin, um the Yeti, Yawis down in Australia, and the Moiho man in in New Zealand as far as Bigfoots go.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and we do have some really exciting stuff coming up with um tracking and recording and bits and pieces like that that we can't talk about, but something really, really exciting um in that sort of space.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_02: So very, very exciting.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, people are just gonna have to keep an eye out on your research then.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: If you're not gonna divulge anything, that's fine.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_02: But lots of things, um lots of exciting things happening.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_02: We are trying to plan a trip next year to the States, it's something that's definitely on our cards.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: We've actually got um we've got Lacey, who is our very first founding member over in America.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: She's off to the Red Ridge Gorge Bigfoot Festival.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so she is um our boots on the ground at the moment, and so she's running a competition, 12 months free membership.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_02: So if you see her, go and find that little QR code and get in.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but she's doing a whole heap of um research for us because we want to come to America next year and we want to go and do some expos and come and meet everyone and do some investigations and all the fun stuff.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: That would be awesome.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you guys have to come here.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's exciting.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and we're thinking of having like a cryptid women's weekend as well.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: So basically, all the members and and stuff can come along and um just get people coming in and talking, and just basically just everyone catching up, you know, because it it's so much fun, and we get so much joy out of talking to women from all different industries, whether it's cryptozoology, paranormal, ufology, you know, or just researchers in general, and um, it's just you know, to be able to actually sit in a room with everyone would just be absolutely or out in the forest somewhere around the country.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that would be so awesome.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: All right, well, you're gonna have to definitely tell me a story then because I want to hear some of the wild stuff that you guys I've been following your Instagram stuff, and I know that you're um you're really diving deep into the yeti.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I uh I just love I just love the idea.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: Crystal and I did a a kind of a wintery episode where we were just like we want to hear more about yetis because we never hear anything about them.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, well honestly, I yeah, I I did that and I I wanted to kind of go down like a different track, you know, because there's so many different parts of the Yeti that you can kind of, you know, everyone can talk about all the encounters and all that kind of stuff.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought, you know, those have kind of been done.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: So I started looking into like the the ancient folklore, and it just I'm I did you see, I don't know if you saw the episode, but oh my lord, the just the stuff that came out and the stuff that I found out, and there was a lot of stuff that that I didn't put on that was quite graphic, and I was like, wow, you know how much voice can it get?
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: But the you know, finding out about the female Yetis being a huge part of the folklore, and they seem to be the more aggressive ones.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: It seems to be the female yetis that will come down, you know, they're the ones that are always there, ripping off men's heads and running into the village and grabbing a male and shoving him over her shoulder and running up into the hills and having her way with him and and then basically.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just like, this is insane.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, why haven't you?
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's it really is like wild folklore when you can do it.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh my god.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it it's kind of all over that area, and they all have the same thing.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's like the you know, like the deities, you know, that they're seen up there, and it again it's like this female deity, and she's a Sasquat uh a Yeti, but she's got a man's head, she's running over the men's head.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, and literally all the depictions of them have them with basically tearing people apart or running around with a man's head.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're thousands of years old, and it's it's I just found it fascinating.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's just sort of so cool.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't want to meet a yeti.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, I know.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I was I was like, if I'm reincarnating, I'm coming back as a female Yeti.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: Hundred percent of doing that's where I'm yeah, you're like, I think I'll be safe that way.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Just like on my my mountain, whatever, like, and just run down into the village.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and also like you know, we the week before we did the Chinese year, and then they're so close in proximity.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_02: And the one thing that we kind of both realize, because when we research topics, we never talk to each other prior.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: We just go, oh, you go wherever you want to go, and I'll go wherever, and then we just kind of deliver to each other.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_02: And it's so interesting because I had no idea about what Juliet was talking about as far as the theme magnetis go.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but man, like you're talking thousands of years worth of history and well-documented and well-preserved history, and you can literally go and see these amazing photographs, um, you know, um, all of this sort of well-documented like history that's just sitting there waiting to be read.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_02: They're very, very clear on what they see and what they saw, and you know, that sort of stuff.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_02: And it was it's always something that we talk about as far as like indigenous cultures and and First Nations people.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they say, you know, we don't make up stories, we don't have the Easter bunny, and we don't have, you know, that sort of stuff.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: We we talk about what we saw and what happened, you know, we know the difference between a bear, we know the difference between a camel.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like there's no there's no questions around that.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: And who are we to sit here saying these people that spend all day in the on the land, in the bush, up the mountains, don't know the difference between a monkey and a Yeti.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: Are we that ignorant?
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, we sit in concrete jungles in buildings all day and then question the people that are in the bush all day.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like where's the balance?
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: Where's the logic?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: I definitely, um, the more I dig into things too, I realize that the ancients weren't as, you know, kind of I think sometimes when we think of ancient cultures, we think, oh, well, you know, they just didn't know, they didn't have the technology, the knowledge.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, I don't think, yeah, we think of them as like cave people or whatever.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, no, actually, the ancients knew a lot more than I think we ever give them credit for.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of my um, a lot of my conspiracy uh friends and podcasters out there will know what I'm talking about because there's so many people are just getting into all the ancient stuff.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, we can't not because we of the pyramids, everything that's kind of like we're in this amazing age of disclosure.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: So we're kind of always looking back to the ancients, and I think you're right, like to give them credit, um, and the you know, First Nations people, indigenous people, that yeah, they're not just telling folklore stories around the campfire.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: This is their culture, this is their experience, and this is how they tell it.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's incredible.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's always done with a grain of truth, you know.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: That that's hard to figure out.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: You can't turn around and go, oh, these stories about Yeti a thousand years ago, oh, it was because they were having a bad day and they didn't want to freeze to death.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, no.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, there's I find it in cult in like folklore, there's always the cautionary tales, like for sure, but it's like a little bit more than so than just oh, don't go into the woods because there's a creature in there.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, no, actually, there is a creature in there, and that's that's why we're telling you this story.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that's it, because you you can tell, you know, like we we call it mythology, you know, you know the difference between mythology and folklore, and then within that folklore, you also know there's a difference of something that, you know, is that cautionary tale or is actually based on some kind of there's a bit of guts around this, there's something going on here, so that's kind of look into that side of it.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um I mean, especially with Aboriginal culture, right?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like Juliet's in Australia, and we um rely heavily on Aboriginal culture and their stories and their um the lore of their land, and it's so so interesting because you're talking 60,000 plus years, you know, like you go into the rock art, you're talking 20,000 plus years, and that can't be date it, but we know from their stories that that's kind of the date range, and it's absolutely insane when you put it into that sort of time frame because you know, in New Zealand, the Europeans have only been here for 150 years, right?
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so not long.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it's yeah, it's phenomenal when you start listening to their stories, the Aboriginal stories or the um Polynesian stories of their um like cryptids.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um you know, we're talking about any.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: I've never heard of any of those.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, well, yeah.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have a favorite one?
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I've come to the right place.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: Do you want me to start?
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we we were the same.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: We were the same.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we were like, you know, yes, we have like the yaoi and stuff here.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: You you you know about the yaoi and that's what we're doing.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we know about the yaoi for sure.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: But it was just like, oh, you know, what's in our backyard?
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: And when we s actually started investigating, it just blew our minds.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like, honestly, there is there is a lot, and this is this land here has a lot of trauma, and so there's a lot of paranormal activity as well, you know, and it it's you know, so you've got that, you've got things like your bunyaps, um, there they're they're just which is kind of like a our bunyap is kind of like a hodag.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: What's that?
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know what a hodag is?
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: So it's it's like a um okay, so the bunyap is like a swamp creature, so it's it's in like the billiabongs, which is basically a kind of a billion is like a stagnant area of water, so it's very little flowing water, um, and creeks and stuff.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: So there is always kind of warnings that if you go down to the um to the billiardongs into the water, you've got to watch out for this bunyap because it was like this giant, um, I'm just trying to explain what would it be like?
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a giant creature with like massive like fangs, almost like a saber-toothed tiger.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, so and so like the hodegs are same.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: The hodeg's the same.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's almost like a you know, giant saber-toothed tiger, um, massive body on them.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: They live in the swamps.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and we we actually did a um uh a whole episode on like cats, like um big cats that were found, you know, with like the saber-tooth are there's the saber-toothed tigers around.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: And we actually made a connection between the bunyup and basically the saber-tooth tiger.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean that that's a whole that's a whole different thing to go down.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it was amazing though, like the connection that we made was that it could this water cat could stay underwater and hold its breath essentially, and then jump up into the middle of the water and eat people, right, when they're on boats or whatever.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: And we went, oh my gosh.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_02: We wonder if that's the same as the Australian bunia, which is said to have webbed feet and a tail and kind of look like five different types of animals.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, but have these red eyes like giant tomatoes, and we were like, Wow, connection, connection.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I just can't even imagine that.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're just literally.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: To us, we think, oh, that's you know, it's gotta be kind of like this big folk tale or you know, more of a cautionary thing.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: But when you speak to Aboriginal people, they are like, no, I've seen one, my uncle saw one, my dad saw one.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: They are like these things are still here, but there is a a spiritual aspect to it.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, we we kind of go down the slide.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: So you've got your your cryptozoology, which is basically your biological animals, which are like um, you know, like the thyrocine and you know, possibly a big foot, and you know, this kind of stuff.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: They they are, you know, you think of all the the animals that they thought were um like cryptids but have now been found, you know.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: So there are still kind of lost animals, so cryptozoology, but then there's paracryptozoology, where it has the spiritual aspect around it where you know Bigfoot is seen going into different dimensions, he's seen disappearing into trees.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_01: We have Yowie's here that disappear into cracks in the rocks, you know, it's things like cloaked and that kind of stuff.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: So there's there's two sides to kind of like the cryptozoology.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um so we try and separate the two of them of going, okay, this is kind of comes under the cryptid banner, this comes under the paranormal or paracryptozoology.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense because yeah, you're right.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: There are definitely, I mean, some of the stories I've heard, you just can't deny that there is a supernatural element for sure, or spiritual connection where like the big one is with Bigfoot just sort of disappearing, things just disappearing.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's kind of that just gets right into being interdimensional, you know.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, the same thing happens with yetis, the same thing happens with yaowies.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_01: They're also the same, you know.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yetis are known to be like, oh my god, there's a yeti, they see it, and then it disappears into the snow.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: But there's nowhere for it to go, it just disappears.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, so there's cases like that, you know, some of the yaowies here.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: So it's the story that we heard recently was of a Bigfoot um being absorbed into a tree.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: And then and then the guys watching this Bigfoot absorbed into a tree went up and put their air on the tree, and they could hear it almost like imagine like walking down into the root system and like they could hear bangs and stuff underground that they assumed was kind of part of the tree.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and and their idea was that it was charging itself up using the the energy from the tree, the electromagnetic field and that sort of stuff.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, really, really.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: Fascinating.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: We're just like, what silly?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: But then you're also kind of like, well, that kind of makes sense.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: You can't justify it.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, it's not as it's not as weird as the story that I heard about Bigfoot um stepping into a doorway and then folding the doorway up on itself and disappearing.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: That was weird.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was like, was that like was that like an encounter that someone had, like someone had seen that?
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like obviously, I mean like was it a farmer on his farm and he was looking at the tree line and he saw this Bigfoot standing there very clearly.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and basically he walked past a couple of um trees, and all of a sudden this doorway, doorway opened.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_02: He stepped into it, and the doorway folded in, like you fold up a five-dollar bill on itself, yeah.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: And just goodbye.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: Bye-bye.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: Just taking my door, just taking my dimension with me.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, with me?
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's crazy, right?
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's wild.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: We um so Crystal and I like to go through and we we map out different encounters, and there was an encounter that we found.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I can't remember the book, but it was almost it was like a flat Bigfoot.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like a flat, and we we covered it, we like kind of just told the encounter.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it like ran with a car, but it was flat.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: Or no, it was a dog man.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: It was dog man, it wasn't Bigfoot.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, in one of our one of our earlier episodes, it was a dog man, and it was um just this big creature that was flat when they like tried to look at it from different sides, and it was just a flat thing, like two-dimensional movie.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: So it was almost like that dimension was kind of crossing over, but not quite, not fully, or something.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's like yeah, we're in 3D, we're in 3D, and this 4D or this 2D is coming in and showing it as a different different reality, different version in our reality.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's a very good.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'd like to know where that's from because like I I'm I'm researching dog man here in Australia.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there are a lot of dogman sightings, a lot, a lot of dogman sightings here.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_01: There's no dogmen in Aboriginal law.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's a smoke law, anything like that.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: There is there is a black dog, which they have a name for, but which is just a dog.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um this is like totally not part of the Australian mythology, Aboriginal mythology.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um there are hundreds of sightings, we have seen photographs, we have heard encounters, and it's really, really insane.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then we heard a crazy thing, which kind of makes sense in my head, but Joe from Ancient Lycophiles was talking about how the government's talking about how they've spent trillions of dollars on underground trains and fast trains which connect to all the countries.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, and so they're saying that dog man is basically being made bred whatever in America, and this is why they're being seen in different countries.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_01: They've even been seen in Africa and well, Egypt, but you know, like um Japan and just really, really random places.
• 41:44
  unknown: Yeah.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_00: So do you have a date?
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like what when did those encounter now?
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, all right.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_01: This is what this is what I am trying to uncover is like when there's been modern, there's been a lot of modern encounters.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's more modern.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's more modern.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: This is this is like like in the last 20 years.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: 20 years ago, there was no such thing as a dogman encounter.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because I was gonna say, if it like started happening around the 40s, like 45, 47, that's when my ears perk up because a lot of weird stuff started happening.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh, especially when you get into the government, like you know, the American government, like it was a lot of weird stuff happening in the 40s for sure.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so it'd be interesting to know, like, yeah, but it's really hard trying to pin down when that first, you know, when the first documented case was of seeing a dog man.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um like we did a we did an episode on dog man.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_02: We were like, we'll do an episode, it'll be really great.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_02: And because we focus on the South Pacific, we're like, yeah, we'll find something.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_02: Could we find frickin' anything?
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_02: Nothing, apart from the fact that Hawaii has a god called Ku, which is the dog god, okay, but not seen like not seen in in uh physicality, only deity form.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_04: Technology, yeah.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um New Zealand has none of that, the Mori people have none of that.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_02: The only thing is potentially PNG Papua New Guinea, where they have shapeshifters, they have uh uh what are they called?
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_02: Shamans.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: Shapeshift into a skinwalker type of creature, um, a wetwater into a dog or a dog-like form, but not dog man, not something like that.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the dogman, it's really, really fascinating because it is um, you know, some of the accounts that you can kind of come up with and kind of go through don't always seem to be as evil as the the dogman.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like the dogman is definitely in like a menacing in every Account that we've encountered come up with and seen.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's been something that's menacing.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's and when you said when you talked about like the dog, uh that remind like the grim, they usually hang out in like uh cemeteries, stuff like that.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: So it's definitely more of like a supernatural, but um I haven't come across one that wasn't like a menacing sort of bad, just really even the atmosphere around people when they tell the stories, it changes and there's a shift for sure.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: So I hope we're not um creating them somewhere and then shipping them across the countries because that's not that's not very nice, it's probably not the best idea.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: That kind of makes sense, though, not that it's coming from America, but the fact that you know they're not in the mythology, so they must be being brought in here, and then you go look at as to what purpose, right?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_02: But that takes you down a whole different kind of like you know, well that takes you into dog soldiers, Nazi warfare, Germans, all that sort of stuff that have been trying desperately to engineer super soldiers for ever and ever men, including America and other, you know, top nations around the world, this you know, deep, you know, black military ops sort of stuff, um, have been trying desperately to engineer super soldiers forever.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_02: And we know that um, you know, um mutations and uh genetic engineering and uh hybridization is is a hundred percent a thing.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_02: Hundred percent a thing that been happening and all sorts of stuff for years, and so like yeah, going back 20 odd years, that probably does fit into someone's timeline of yay, we created a dog soldier.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: Test them out, but now we've got the means to transport them as well, you know what I mean?
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, what an awful you know, they've always talked about having connections between the countries and stuff.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, if there is the means now to be able to you can't go putting them on like an Emirates flight with Melbourne, you know.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Are you guys yeah, right?
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, tried, I mean, I would never although my dog when we uh my dog is from Canada, so we always joke that like he's not American.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: He came from Canada.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: And he's been and he's been on a plane, and like we always joke about that, but like, yeah, no, you're not gonna stow away dog man super soldier, like and you know, it's not right, this is not happening.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, go ahead.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, go ahead.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_01: But I was gonna say that'd be funny.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's like there's this kind of thing, you could fly them over, but are they controllable or are they not controllable?
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: Excuse me.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're not supposed to like, yeah, we're not I'm not supposed to go to Australia and take a spider and bring it back over here.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_00: So no, let's not do I don't wonder.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna chosen dog man.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: We can just take a dog man all over the world.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_03: We don't need to go through quarantine.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_03: I knew it was gonna get wild.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh could you imagine?
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: But it so this but it kind of brings me to this point though, because um when so when you do that sort of you know 6,000 mile view in the sky of areas, and you want to do research and you want to get down to like what's happening in the entire area, what are people encountering?
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_00: Usually, if it's a mis if there's a military base, there's underground activity, and there's a lot of stuff happening.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I mean, again, it's all conspiracy, this is all for entertainment.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: Just gonna say that.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, this is entertainment purposes only.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, everybody in this in this space eventually gets down to that rabbit trail of what's underground, what's going on underground, you know.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: So I've never heard that they're being shipped, and that's absolutely wild.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: I know, it like I only I found this out what last week, and it's wow, it just like completely blew me away.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, huh.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm having this conversation with them, and I'm just like, hang on, I just gotta let their sink.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: Which is like, oh my god, like that just makes so much sense.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's like they've just suddenly they've just suddenly turned up here, you know.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, you know, and saying that and saying that, what if what if dog man wasn't a necessarily a biological or a genetically hybrid engineered super soldier?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_02: What if he was actually a supernatural spiritual being that was the gatekeeper or Bigfoot's best mate to hold the door open, the interdimensional door, you know?
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_02: Like you hear that dog man and Bigfoot seems quite together.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_02: And the theory that we were told by um one of our friends who um helped us start Cryptid Women's Society in the very get-go, she gave her Dogman encounter in Wellington here, and she said, Oh, Dogman is um he's the gatekeeper, he is um the dude that holds the dimensions and bits and pieces like that for Bigfoot to travel through.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_02: And um, she was like, Oh, you know, this is just how it was, and she told us where Bigfoot were that we needed to go and talk to them.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_02: She was like, You need to go up this mountain range because they're waiting for you.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_02: And we did.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_02: We went and had this little mini half-day expedition up a hill, and we had the most amazing and like kind of long distance encounter um with these creatures that were up there because she told us this is they're waiting, they're telling me you need to go and see them.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_02: And so, what if dog man was a spiritual being that you know he has to be quite grumpy?
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_02: People are trying to interdimensionally travel without his cycle.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: You know, but you go back to Anubis, isn't it?
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: Anubis is you know, he goes into the underground.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_01: Is that just kind of a metaphor for not just death?
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, because you have to go through these trials and someone hates the first one.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: So again, it's kind of got that guardian kind of feel to it, but you know, you you look through Europe though, you know, and you've got to kind of start, you know.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're looking at dog man, you have to look at the werewolf mythology.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: I was just gonna say, yeah.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: That is such a huge part of it, and people today, you know, there's one, oh, is it in Birmingham or something?
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: There is a werewolf apparently that is seen.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like this dog man that is seen quite a few times, and people see it along this river, and you know, this river goes into like this kind of um underground tunnels and you know, and all this kind of stuff.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um you have to it it all goes back as far as I'm concerned.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, how I feel, I think it goes back to Europe because that is where your original werewolves and stuff were.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't really part of, you know, apart from your skinwalkers and and that kind of stuff, and you know, your the Native American side of stuff.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_01: But when it comes to again, like the werewolves and and dog man and that kind of stuff, it it started in Europe, you know.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_01: So you've got to kind of you have to go back to the beginning and like, okay, how is this how is this changed?
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_01: How is it, you know, is there like this trail where it's to they've ended up in America?
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_01: Is there, you know, is it a a werewolf such a person that can change?
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: And then you know, they've you know, everyone went around the world, everyone left their country, went to another country, you know, we've all basically um done that.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, did they just kind of come over?
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_01: Did they have these gifts, or is you know, is it a supernatural thing?
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there there's so many questions, so many, like we say, so many robot holes you could go down, and um yeah.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_02: Well, then you look at like underworld and do they just spell it out for us?
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_02: Do they just say the lichens are a star race and the vampires are a race, and this is the way it's always been?
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, there's theories that Hollywood has to spell it out for us and tell us all about it before they do anything, or they have to, you know, like really kind of lay it out for design.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_02: 100.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_02: So is this what the is this is this the underworld, you know, movies?
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_00: Lycens versus the blood stars?
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_00: But there's a really um that reminds me, there is a there was a really famous case of a werewolf in Paris or in France.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you guys or remember that, but that was like a I think it was in the 15th century where this um I can't remember the village off the top of my head, but it was in it was in France and this creature terrorized this community, and it was well, well documented uh as a historical event.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_00: And the church got involved, and it did seem more like a skinwalker sort of situation.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how you guys feel, but I've heard that like I I get uneasy saying that term because I know um a lot of the Native Americans will not even utter that that phraseology because of the that it will summon them.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm I'm always a little cautious myself.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how you guys feel, but I catch myself because we talk about it and people like to talk about it, and then I'm like, I wonder if that's a good idea to talk about or not.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like that it's basically our next month stuff.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's like skinwalker ranch, yeah, skinwalkers wendigo.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's like we're doing okay.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: So that's it.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's interesting.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_00: The Wendigo.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: So what's the difference there?
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have you come across stories of of Wendigo's?
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: Because I haven't really done much digging into those.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's a real difference.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_01: So it's the skinwalkers um are basically like the they are more spiritual, so they're like the the kind of like the witch doctor, the taboo kind of stuff.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: And then your the Wendigo are based on it's basically based on people that were cannibalistic.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, horn things, that's Hollywood.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they never had horns on them.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_01: They were basically these white, emancipated, like hollow eyes, skinny, white pale skin.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they had a crawler anyone, pale crawler, pale, pale crawler.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_01: So basically they have this hunger for flesh, and a lot of it kind of came through like in the winter time there, like you know, with the Native Americans and you know that kind of stuff.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_01: So basically, people were starving, and so they became cannibalistic.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_01: And there was always those stories, you know, that I grew up with is that if you start eating people, you go crazy and you want their flesh.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we we had that as kids.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_01: It was just basically if you eat a person, then basically you go crazy and you're basically going to turn into like this zombie-like creature.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: Though we never really used the word zombie when I was younger, but like this creature that wants to eat more people, you know what I mean?
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_01: So and it was something to do with your basically because you're eating your own kind, and yeah.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it that's just there is psychology around that now, right?
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like the Wendigo, I can't remember what quite it's called.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Julia's done the research on that.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if she wants to drop all of her gems yet, but we've got a we've got an episode coming up in a couple of weeks.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, okay.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_02: But I know that there is psychology around that where um it's science is scientifically proven that that is what happens and it's um a Wendigo-based term.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we don't have Wendigos down in the South Pacific, it's not something that we talk about.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_02: However, cannibalism is 100% prevalent down here um up until I don't know what 70 years ago?
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 1940, I think was it 1940s or 1920 was the last confirmed cannibalism.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, like so there was there was a lot of that sort of stuff going on um in New Zealand.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_02: But also my my partner tells me this story about one of the chiefs in Samoa, which is an island in the South Pacific, that's where my my partner's from.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_02: And he goes, Oh, you know, like one of the chiefs, blah, blah, blah, got real pissed off with the guys over in Tonga, and so he went over there and he ate him.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, and I was like, very, like, just very matter of fact, that's just what happened.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so to this day, Tonga and Samoa, you know, hate each other.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: They've got this big giant kind of ribbon, and it's because the Samoan chief went over and ate the Tongan chief because he was being a shithead.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so there's definitely some bloodshed on that land.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_00: So there's probably a lot of activity on that land for sure.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like getting back to the land.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_02: Dina, oh my gosh.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_02: So we went to Samoa.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_02: I went to Samoa with my family in June, and Juliet and I did an international paranormal investigation, right?
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_02: We're like, let's test it out.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_02: How far can these go, right?
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she was in Australia, I was in Samoa, like a good eight-hour flight away from where she was.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_02: So we started up our little ghost tubes on our phones.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_02: She didn't know where I was standing, and I didn't know where she was.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_02: We weren't talking to each other other than um telling the words that were coming through.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_02: So she'd send me a text message going, Oh, this is what's coming through, this is what's coming through, basically.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_02: So that was all we um had communications with.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: And so it turns out, like, there were a few moments that were just so crazily connected.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_02: You like, you know, sometimes when you're doing paranormal base investigations, you can pull things out and twist them to fit the situation and twist them to create evidence where there isn't any and and connection and stuff.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_02: But this was just uncanny, absolutely uncanny.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_02: It started coming up with um, I was standing right on the edge of the ocean um in central Arpia, which is the the mouth of the harbour in their in their um capital city, and it started coming up with um moldy words from the fishermen that would come in, and um they and a lot of them died on on that space, and it came up with you know, words that were in a different language that I understood because we've both knew moldy through school.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_02: So it was stuff like Tanga Tafena word, which is guardian of the land, um, corero, which is talking, and let's have a conversation, and these sort of words that we know that we were like, that's there's none of that in my in my library.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_02: There's no preset words in there in my library, and then we started having a conversation um in regards to oh gosh, what was it?
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_02: There was some sort of a like an intelligent entity coming through and it started talking about the candle, and I was like, Well, I don't have a candle, and Juliet goes, Oh my god, there's a candle next to me.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, what?
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then it brought out my granddaughter's name, Abigail.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_02: She walked into the room and it came up and went Abigail, but it came up on my one, it came up with Abigail on mine, and I was like, Abigail, and she goes, Oh my god, she just entered the room.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the kind of stuff you can't make up.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like if you're in two different places, that's absolutely wild.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, and honestly, yeah, and we're really skeptical, like we are really, really evidence-based when we go out and do any sort of investigation or anything like that.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_02: We are very much like, mm, are we sure?
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_02: Mmm, what about that?
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_02: Could have been da-da-da-da-da.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_02: We will run through every single blem on our show until we have no more on the table, and then we go, uh, it might be.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's the way, I mean, that you have to be that way, especially nowadays, because there's so much just crap on the internet that people are making up.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I mean, there's at some point we're just not going to be able to tell like what's real and what's not.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_00: So you have to really be, I think, as skeptical as possible is like the safest bet for sure.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_00: Especially with research.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you never want to go in and just kind of assume.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_00: I know there's some things that I do where it's like, okay, I don't want this to be my own assumption.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_00: Where is the research going to take me and let it unfold as it kind of happens when you're especially any sort of um encounters where it starts with like I always look at, okay, well, there's a really big high activity area here.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_00: What's the bloodshed look like?
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: What's the Native American culture look like?
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_00: What were there, you know, were they mistreated?
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_00: What what happened here?
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, is usually where I go and start and then kind of let it unfold.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, you're right.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: You have to be skeptical.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's something that we learned.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's also looking into um your geography and what's under the ground, what type of minerals, is it a high gold, is it high, you know, crystal, you know, all that kind of stuff because it it's a conduct, you know, again, water, uh, water is another one.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I can remember watching um it's an American show, like a police show, but it was like the police couldn't deal with the stuff because it was all paranormal stuff, so they brought in a paranormal team.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_01: So it went for a couple of seasons, and it basically was what they realized, what the connection was was where all these paranormal encounters were followed this river.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_01: So this river was literally the conductor, all these energies, you know, and you know, we we had that here, but Australia is so mineral, so gold rich.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_01: It is insane here, and so it's it's almost like it's kind of held on to that trauma, or it's you know, and and a lot of stuff, you know, from you know, from the Aboriginals being slaughtered, you know, same like the lady, same thing has happened here.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and then the the Chinese workers that came over, you know, it's just yeah, it's definitely areas here as well that I've I've got such a dark history.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, we definitely, yeah, definitely need to kind of look into that as well.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's ignorant of sitting in the paranormal space of paranormal investigators to just go straight in and not do any research around it as far as the the Indigenous and the First Nations people go, and what does that history on the land look like?
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_02: Just going straight in and saying, I'm gonna talk to A, B, C, and D.
• 1:03:09
  SPEAKER_02: It's like doing a Ouija board when you're you know 15 years old and not knowing how to close the portal, you know.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like we were joking about it, going, how many Ouija boards have been used and then like when you're kids, and then you've just run away from it and left it wide open, like and then like how many around the world?
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_02: And no wonder we've got so many.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, you're not kidding, because I I mean, I literally I joke about this.
• 1:03:33
  SPEAKER_00: I should stop joking about this because I should probably just go check on these people.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_00: But like I did a lot of like crazy supernatural stuff when I was a teenager, and my whole room, like I just had like you know, an altar and we did Ouija boards, and we did all of that stuff.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm always joking, like, I wonder if those people are okay.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what I never, you know, I God only knows what portal I opened as an idiot teenager, and then you're right, just left it open.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, not that I have any spiritual authority when I'm 15.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_00: I shouldn't be messing around with any of that stuff to begin with.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's my stance, is just don't, just don't do it.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you don't need to figure out it's not, it's probably not grandma like talking to you, you know.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like don't just don't do it.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_00: But you're right, like people go in uninformed and they just want the that's a big conversation in in my space is you know, people just want the the the tickles, they want the the the good feeling of telling me a ghost story, you know.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_02: But they don't want to deal with the other side of that, eh?
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_02: And um, and you know, like and then you've got CERN opening portals left, right, and center, and scientists opening stuff, and you know, like from a spiritual warfare perspective, like you know, if you're a any if you're any sort of religious person, if you're any sort of spiritually connected person, be it religious or not, you are in the middle of a spiritual warfare, full stop.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_02: We know that this is happening, it's been prophesized, it's been written about in numerous texts, and so if you're connected in any sort of way, shape, or form, you are like a giant beacon, bright light standing in the dark, that everything goes, ooh, there's a light.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_02: I need to go down and play with it, you know.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it's it's dangerous.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_02: And if you don't know how to protect yourself, I mean, we've been in a couple of hairy situations lately, angels, that we've just gone, oh crap.
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um, thank God we had our protection on place because if we didn't put those protections in place, we could very well be in really dangerous situations.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um and generationally too.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, those things can attach to your gent.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_00: I always kind of say it like this: it might not, you might go get away unscathed and you might not experience spiritual warfare.
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_00: And thank God, but you don't know what's going on with your kids, you don't know what's going on with your grandchildren.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_00: that becomes a generational door that you've gotta seal up.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're right.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_00: The protection is very important.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's becoming uh more and more I'm hearing more about this as like the the generational stuff and how it's being passed on and yeah you you do you kind of like go hmm okay yeah you know my my Nana used to go and teach in Egypt.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know she spent years in Egypt you know she was like five foot nothing and she went around the world um she just traveled around the world she taught in Egypt and stuff like that and I'm just like oh what did you bring home Nana Nana Nana what did she bring home I know have you guys um so speaking of that I don't know how true this is and I don't even know if I want to bring it up because I didn't do any research on it but I'm seeing a whole bunch of reels about the dumb Annabelle doll that someone decided to take on tour yeah and all the buildings burning too it's not the real Annabelle doll.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's not no okay everyone's making like you know reaction reels and stuff like that and I'm just like from what from the research that I've done into it and the very small amount of research I've done into it uh the real Annabelle doll is not that because she is so dangerous they simply won't take her out of the um container that she's in um because she's too dangerous.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah so there's no there's absolutely no way they would take her on tour.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know I that's what I've I've heard that and I yeah I did zero looking into it.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_00: So guys don't do your own research you know that by now if you're listening to your own do your own research believe it's the real one.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I think like you know diving a little bit deeper into that sort of subject I think like there's so many like relics and items and things like that that have been taken and put into private collections or wherever that they do a cult magic with and other bits and pieces you know like if you've got a highly um charged magical talisman if you want to put it like that then why the hell would you put it in a museum?
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_02: You know you're gonna somebody is going to take that and use it for nefarious purposes because why would it yeah you know so like like like your uh grandma going to Egypt Jill's and you know like you know taking stuff home with her which you know we all did okay we all took bit of the panel or did we or did we um mamma's got a bag of sand don't ask where it came from finger in it oh that's problem like what have you taken from somewhere that has some sort of spiritual connection that you should put back and you shouldn't have um and yeah I I we say it all the time you know like in New Zealand we have a thing called greenstone or um ponamu is the greenstone that's in the river and we make necklaces out of it and carve them and they're beautiful and they're touchstones and they hold spiritual energy and they're really really um powerful as far as like kind of crystals go or rocks go.
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_02: And you know like there's so many stories around that like one of my stories was I went to Australia I had this beautiful triple um twist that was carved for my 21st from my best friend at the time her grandfather carved it and then blessed it um and it was beautiful it was amazing it was about that big a wow huge triple twist greenstone and I took it to Australia with me and I went and lived over there and it was fine and all goods and I met an amazing uh Aboriginal man who was there with his family he was super tall eh he was like a Nephilim he was like like seven foot he was just giant and I was and I sat next to him and we had a bit of a chat and he said oh he said when you go to London I was just on my way to London the next day or whatever he said turn it to the back so that it remembers where it's come from you know that's interesting on the airplane so it builds the memories and I was like okay so I did that right but I got a bit angry at him afterwards because I was like god damn it if I had a kept in the front it might still be with me but long story short went over to London spent a few months over there um jumped in the in the car to come home um and go to Heathrow airport and I had it on my uh chest and it slid off really it was not it's knotted yeah you knot them like five or six times or whatever it slipped off in the car as we were pulling into the car park oh I couldn't find it I was like can't find it it's in the car somewhere the driver was like don't worry mate I'll find and I'll send it to you and I was like okay I've got to go and so jumped on the train flew home he went through that car he ripped up the carpet he went through everything he sent me pictures of his wife's green jewelry going is this oh it's in London somewhere totally gone that's crazy yeah yeah it wanted to live in London it wanted to live in London it just wanted to live in London oh my gosh some I think some things are just meant to stay in different places and maybe I have this idea that I'm gonna go back to London one day and I'll pick it up and you'll find it in like a thrift store somewhere yes there it is I know I know I have this I have like this wooden piece I always wonder I don't even know what it is but I got it from a thrift store for a dollar and I get so many compliments on it.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh that's yeah that's like it looks like a piece of a tree that's just been like I don't know you see it yeah yeah yeah like so I don't know I definitely like prayed over it and blessed it I'm a weirdo like that like if I get stuff from a thrift store I'm like okay I don't know what's coming home so you're gonna stay outside and I'm gonna bless you and pray over you before you come into my house.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_01: I tell you what's really funny Lisa and I did um an investigation at a girl's home was it the girls' home that we went to um the big building like in Farnham Farenham and basically so we did this investigation there and um we were leaving and we were just like oh you know just whatever you are it was look sort of like we could feel them knocking at the the windows and we're like no no no so we did a little prayer you stay here hashtag but hang on hang on Jills hang on so this so you've got to give some backstory to like the investigation that we actually did so this place was in a place called featherston which is in the Waiarapa in Wellington New Zealand right but this was like a 20 bedroom mansion had been turned into like a girls' home had gone through so many different things um and on that land there were like um uh world war one prisoners of war all sorts of stuff you know like almost 50 Japanese prisoners of war was were gunned down and killed a whole heap of moldy wars went on there as well anyway so we went there after it had shut down and become a private residence but before that it was a girls' home and it was a pretty uh horrendously kept secret girls' home if that makes sense oh yeah oh jeez with the native girls and stuff like that yeah we keep going yeah yeah so so so we we left we were blatantly like nap you need to stay here we could feel yeah it's like no no bye bye bye bye stay here stay here so we're driving and I I don't know we end up we had to stop or something didn't we it was just like let's pull over we were doing something so we pulled over on the side of the road and it was like I took a photo like we we took a photo kind of through the window and stuff and number one there was like this face that was in the window there was like no doubt about it there was like this face that was in there we're just like oh I was like you need to stay here and we went down the windows to say get out and in the middle of nowhere like on this road was this white mankey cat sitting there just like looking at us and we're like oh my god so we got a photograph of this cat like it was like we just stopped there just like yeah stop there cat didn't try to run away just kept looking at us and we're like this is so creepy like a little guardian cat more so right so where we stopped was literally in the middle of nowhere there were no houses because we were about to drive up one of the biggest hills in New Zealand right one of the biggest drive hills in New Zealand it's like an hour over the hills sort of thing.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_02: So we were literally on our way up that hill so there were no residential houses and the worst part about this is we sat there we were like open the window you have to go you can't be in here Juliet was like there's something in here with me and I was like yeah I know me too so we open the window we're like you've got to get out go back to the girls' home we know you're trying to come with us and there's this cat and Juliet goes oh my granddaughter Abigail will love this I'm gonna take a picture of that and I'm sitting there going just fucking put the window out anyway so she takes this picture of this cat not a problem winds the window up it was like 1 a.m or 2 a.m in the morning or something we drive over the hill we get back to where we're staying right go to sleep not a problem get up a few hours later and take Juliet to the airport we're sitting at the airport in the car waiting you know to check in and stuff and we're like oh shit let's have a look at through those photos and the footage that we took last night I shit you not Christine we're looking through the images and I'm like oh holy crap look at that and it's literally a picture of the cat in the background given we had the window down so we weren't taking a photo through the window right it was a picture of the cat with the glary eyes and then a giant ghostly poultized face in front of it.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_01: Nope we both went oh my god what is he doing in there Julia was about to take that cat home for her granddaughter she was like she would love this oh my god the net that was just we both sat there going huh and we'll send you the picture it's all undeniable undeniable yeah it was both so crazy we've had some you know we we do kind of have a bit of a laugh like we've had a couple of funny kind of situations but we've also had some pretty scary kind of situations oh tell a scary one do you have one on mine okay all right we were in Queensland we were at the um what's the big cemetery up there called Tu Wong Cemetery Cemetery so I've had kids home all week so my brain's well that's okay and we were basically um so we're going around the cemetery there's all sorts that's supposed to be in there there's like a a hill where apparently you can park your car but the car will if you take the handbrake half the car goes up the hill and not down the hill.
• 1:17:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow we've got one of those there yeah that that's really we're well known there there's supposed to be um vampires at this um cemetery there's there's all sorts you know there's yeah it's it's quite an old cemetery so we'd gone with a a friend and her 14 year old son and so we're walking around so they're not really into it but they're like oh we'll come along for Seth walking around and um this is probably what an hour two hours into into the evening I think yeah it's a huge cemetery it's massively massively old and just acres upon acres of a lot of unmarked um graves as well it's very very old one of the so we we kind of got to the the top of the hill there's a couple of kind of hairy areas we had some like you know we kind of picked up a few voices but a few conversations um and we got to the top and kind of Lisa's kind of wandered off that way and I think Sepra and them are kind of there's like a like a road and stuff and so Separ and Michael Angel had gone down this way and um and I'm just sitting there and all I could see is like this black like black you know they talk about you see this black kind of like area and I'm just like looking at it going what is that and I'm looking at it like on top of like one of the um like the grave sites there and it like it slowly morphed and it like morphed into like this oh I just like it still gives me goose months now it was almost like this um like demonic type face it had horns oh my gosh and it just like literally just lifted up its head and just looked straight at me and I'm like oh my god and actually Lisa's going oh the what the the voice pops going off going oh monsters I'm like she's like oh my yeah thank you thank you spirit I'm looking at it right now I don't really can't because I don't want to freak out siepper and my pleasure and I'm like we need to go we need to go and she's like oh it's a month we need to go and we try to walk through all these bloody grave sites and there's no path I'm like I don't care just keep walking and it's crazy Christina because Juliet is she's almost connected to all the paranormal stuff right she sees things all the time and gets whatever and so she's always real calm and collected like it's me that I'm like there's a cherry tree touching me a ghost finger you know like sort of and she's real calm and collected and just always like no I know what I'm doing.
• 1:20:39
  SPEAKER_02: And there's a monster right here.
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_00: I have never seen her bolt that fast she was like well that yeah well first of all I mean you're kind of you're expecting something to be creepy because you're in a cemetery you know but I mean that's gonna happen.
• 1:20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're gonna have that sort of creep factor like scare yourself sort of but I mean to see a full just demonic apparition is oh my god yeah nightmarish.
• 1:21:12
  SPEAKER_01: You're like yeah yeah but and and you go yeah yeah they're dark but I mean it it was black and it's you know and when it's the first time I've ever understood when somebody told me something was blacker than black.
• 1:21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah and because you can see it at night and it was just like this black thing and I was like and I was like I was so confused.
• 1:21:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like what's here is there an animal here what is it and then to to basically have it like lift its head and just like eyeball me and I was just like oh my God we are gone we're so yeah you know what the worst part was right after we did all that we were like okay we had another walk around then we decided we would go and we ended up converging at the same time out this little wee doorway with another tour group right we just kind of went in by ourselves and they were on a full tour and we kind of we kind of like merged and yeah we merged into this this line of people leaving and the poor lady that was at the front giving out pamphlets were like thanks so much for coming and she was once I talk she was like thanks thanks so much for coming and she's like had a great time and then I walked down and she was like oh thanks so much for coming so it was really great and then our friend behind us who's Sa Mowen walked out and she was like hello and she was what the hell like where two people come from it was so cool.
• 1:22:37
  SPEAKER_02: But that's not the worst part right that's just a funny part that we're all cracking up about.
• 1:22:41
  SPEAKER_02: We came out the other end out this doorway onto the road and there was a group of like four women standing there all talking about the tour that they'd just gone on and we were like oh hey how you going they're like oh you know started having a chat and we're like oh cool we're just gonna do a um a cleansing process you know especially after what Juliet had been through we were like we are cleansing this puppy off whatever that was yeah and they were like what's that and we were like what do you mean what's that and they were like oh you know like what are you doing and we were like but you do you know protection and then cleanse so that nothing comes home with you and they're like oh we haven't done any of that and we're like oh my goodness so we all stood there and did like a little kind of thing together and just did a bit of a cleanse and told everything to stay there and all that stuff and we were like and so we kind of just did a a bit of education angels you know like because these tour groups are taking people in places like that and then just sending them straight home.
• 1:23:39
  SPEAKER_01: And they're sending them straight home.
• 1:23:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah giving them protection going in they're not you know it it's like no protection coming out no getting rid of everything not even hey here's a here's a pamphlet you know go do this before you go it's like that should be part of it.
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_01: Not even shape if you're doing this and you're going into these areas you have to put up protection you have to put up walls and you also have to you know cleanse yourself when you come out the other side and it just blew us away you know because we haven't really done any ghost tours as such apart from one um so it kind of blew us away that there was nothing done.
• 1:24:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah yeah was that were they there specifically for like a ghost tour or was it oh it was okay yeah yeah yeah ghost through an investigation and kind of going around to all the creepy areas finding the vampire and stuff and like but they had they had like equipment right they had like open pods and that sort of stuff that they were trying to talk and communicate with spirits and it was like man if you're gonna do that like it's not just walking around a cemetery at night time you've got equipment that's going to allow you to communicate like you have got to put protection in place.
• 1:24:54
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely I mean I I talked to a couple paranormal um investigators and they say it doesn't really matter what your spiritual you know beliefs are it's it's more so you have to do something because you're at least on the front end admitting hey I'm in this territory it's not my territory you know kind of like what Lisa was saying like we're involved in in spiritual warfare whether we want to believe it or not.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_00: So you're right there is kind of like an accountability I never really thought about that because I've been on a couple ghost tours and no one talks about that.
• 1:25:28
  SPEAKER_00: No one's just like they're just like ooh here's this is where the ghosts are and no one says like you should probably really pray before you do this maybe or something.
• 1:25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like you know do something we're part of kind of what you know that we're trying to get through to people and a big part of you know with crypto women's society and doing courses is a huge part of it is protection whether it be the spiritual physical or whatever um it it has to be done.
• 1:25:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah um you know yeah it it's just silly you know these people are walking in there and um just open and you know the other thing is like you know if you're in the wrong kind of frame of mind if if you're having if you've got health issues, you know, for women if it's the wrong time of the month yeah like should you be doing this because they make you more vulnerable it you know it puts you at higher risk emotionally spiritually and physically you know for certain things.
• 1:26:26
  SPEAKER_01: So it's you know it there's like just trying to kind of put that together for women to kind of understand and be like hey these are the things that you've got to look out for.
• 1:26:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah you know really bad death space is no well yeah like going out into like the wilderness when you're when you period like you know just not the bears and you know uh nobody needs to attract that sort of attention during the day um and do you guys ever think about putting together your own like pamphlets and just like being like here here's some information you should probably take this before you go ghost tour scan the QR code you'll learn all about it yes yes yes yes just the basics you know and that's and we are putting this stuff together and we want it to be free for our women we're not sitting there we're gonna charge women no it's like these are just like the most basic safety things you know and and as far as spiritual um safety it's like we're coming from different angles whether it be um Catholic or you know spiritual or just new age Christian or whatever Buddhism these are how everybody does their own protection.
• 1:27:45
  SPEAKER_01: You take out of whatever appeals to you but just do something.
• 1:27:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah you know and and whatever resonates with you angels.
• 1:27:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah yeah yeah yeah so I think that's really smart because I think you're at least giving them the knowledge before you know in general You're letting people know, you know, hey, this is you like you said, Lisa, it's not just fun and games.
• 1:28:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's not just ghost stories.
• 1:28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Because the ghost stories are people's stories.
• 1:28:10
  SPEAKER_00: They're stories of people that lived before us and something probably bad happened to them.
• 1:28:15
  SPEAKER_00: If they're still, you know, if there's a I mean, we can get into that's a totally different topic.
• 1:28:20
  SPEAKER_00: What are ghosts?
• 1:28:21
  SPEAKER_00: But if it's a residual energy, it's there for a reason because something traumatic probably happened.
• 1:28:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think trauma really attracts a lot of it too.
• 1:28:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, I think for sure.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, our our number one thing is like we always go in with a deep respect to that area, whether it's the land or whether it's a cemetery.
• 1:28:42
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, we go in, we introduce ourselves, we come here in res with respect, you know, and we don't go in there trying to wrap them up.
• 1:28:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that nothing irritates me more than watching these programs where they go in and they're like, oh, there's an angry ghost here, and oh, come here, mate, come and face on me, you know, come and touch me, come and touch me.
• 1:29:01
  SPEAKER_00: I know who you're talking about.
• 1:29:02
  SPEAKER_00: You're talking about Zach Baggins, yep, from Ghost Adventures.
• 1:29:08
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_00: I make fun of him at least every episode we talk about ghosts.
• 1:29:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like Crystal and I, we when we were in high school, we used to watch that all the time.
• 1:29:16
  SPEAKER_00: And like there was one episode in particular.
• 1:29:18
  SPEAKER_00: He's got like, I'm probably gonna get sued at one point because I just constantly rag on him.
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm just like, you know, bro, you're all broad out in like your 90s club gear and you're going in here, and like there was one episode where he it was apparently like a woman was like hurt and murdered, and he was just like, Oh, really?
• 1:29:37
  SPEAKER_00: You want to go after women, huh?
• 1:29:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like the ghost push women come after me, bro.
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, Oh my gosh, what are you doing?
• 1:29:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's what are you doing?
• 1:29:47
  SPEAKER_01: He gets physixed nearly every program.
• 1:29:50
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, oh my god.
• 1:29:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm not one for gossip, but seriously, his the woman, the one guy like on his team, like didn't his wife just try to like murder him, have him murdered?
• 1:30:01
  SPEAKER_00: That was like a big thing.
• 1:30:02
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, is he on are they together on the same team?
• 1:30:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the same team, yeah.
• 1:30:07
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's I mean, I feel bad for that guy.
• 1:30:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's absolutely anything about that show.
• 1:30:13
  SPEAKER_02: We don't get those sort of shows in New Zealand.
• 1:30:15
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
• 1:30:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's so cringy.
• 1:30:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's really, really rough.
• 1:30:19
  SPEAKER_02: But I do know who you're talking about.
• 1:30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
• 1:30:22
  SPEAKER_00: One of these days comes up a lot.
• 1:30:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm yeah, I end up I just rag on him all the time.
• 1:30:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna get a letter in the mail to in my P.O.
• 1:30:30
  SPEAKER_00: box that's just like stop making fun of whatever.
• 1:30:32
  SPEAKER_00: This is America.
• 1:30:33
  SPEAKER_00: I will make fun of Zach Baggins.
• 1:30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Beggins.
• 1:30:36
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know if it's I always mispronounce his name because I think of the Hobbit and Baggins.
• 1:30:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if it's Beggins.
• 1:30:47
  SPEAKER_00: All right, we just came full circle.
• 1:30:48
  SPEAKER_00: We got back to Hobbits.
• 1:30:50
  SPEAKER_00: Good.
• 1:30:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness, this has been a blast.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_00: I so appreciate you ladies.
• 1:30:58
  SPEAKER_00: This is wonderful.
• 1:30:59
  SPEAKER_00: I really just um I love this.
• 1:31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like I just could talk to you guys forever.
• 1:31:04
  SPEAKER_02: Anytime we get to talk about stories and and stuff that we love, it's it's such a um privilege.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, you know, like who gets this is their kind of full-time deal.
• 1:31:14
  SPEAKER_01: No, I want to tell us all your stories.
• 1:31:18
  SPEAKER_00: I will, yes.
• 1:31:19
  SPEAKER_00: I will definitely, yes, I would love to anytime.
• 1:31:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so do you have anything else that you guys want to like kind of wrap up and chat about?
• 1:31:27
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be appreciative of your time, and we're over an hour here.
• 1:31:31
  SPEAKER_00: So did you was there anything else you wanted to any tidbits or Lisa?
• 1:31:36
  SPEAKER_03: She's the one who goes, Well, have I got a deal for you?
• 1:31:47
  SPEAKER_02: Well, um, like we talked about earlier, we have um Lacey at um expos in America at the moment, representing Cryptid Women's Society.
• 1:31:56
  SPEAKER_02: So if you find her um at her expo this weekend in Kentucky, go and find her and steal her QR code and get yourself into the drawer because we're giving away a 12-month membership to you.
• 1:32:08
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's exciting!
• 1:32:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh we'll this will probably drop in a couple weeks, so it might be the timing metal off.
• 1:32:17
  SPEAKER_02: But she will be at another expo in a couple of weeks.
• 1:32:20
  SPEAKER_02: I think she's going to West Virginia.
• 1:32:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, she's going to oh really?
• 1:32:24
  SPEAKER_02: Which might be the next one on.
• 1:32:26
  SPEAKER_02: So are you going to?
• 1:32:27
  SPEAKER_00: No, I I I've got to one of these years.
• 1:32:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, there's that the West Virginia Bigfoot Festival is really big.
• 1:32:34
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's um, there's another like blurry con is a big blurry con.
• 1:32:38
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, if you guys yeah, blurry creatures.
• 1:32:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I really want to go to that, but I always I don't know, like you guys love traveling, and I'm just kind of like, oh, then I gotta do this, then I gotta drive for hours.
• 1:32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm that no.
• 1:32:51
  SPEAKER_02: So it's all about in the right way, though, right?
• 1:32:54
  SPEAKER_02: We don't drive for hours, we just get on an airplane and fly.
• 1:32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we'll see.
• 1:32:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm just lazy, but yeah, no, I know that that's happening, so that's awesome.
• 1:33:04
  SPEAKER_00: So we need to find who is it again that's there representing?
• 1:33:07
  SPEAKER_00: Lacey.
• 1:33:08
  SPEAKER_00: Lacey, okay.
• 1:33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Find Lacey at the conference and scan the QR code.
• 1:33:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, and I need to become a member.
• 1:33:15
  SPEAKER_00: I definitely need to like you've sold me.
• 1:33:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I want to um take my money so I can get all the research.
• 1:33:24
  SPEAKER_02: Sounds awesome.
• 1:33:25
  SPEAKER_02: Well, why don't we send you over a few um like kind of trial memberships to give away as well, and then you can give them out to oh that would be fun! Yes, it'll be super good, and we would love to have you come and join us.
• 1:33:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's super super fun.
• 1:33:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I love this.
• 1:33:40
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, look, the collabs going on between all the meetings.
• 1:33:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we've got literally we've got documentaries, we have got all sorts kind of happening in the world.
• 1:33:52
  SPEAKER_02: One of the things I was gonna mention is that one of our newest things that we're just about to launch, which I don't know if I can tell you about, but I'm gonna do I do this all the time, and Juliet's um one of the newest things we're gonna launch is a new room um in the back end of the members website.
• 1:34:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um and it's called, and I don't know if it's gonna be called this, but we may change the name.
• 1:34:18
  SPEAKER_02: But basically, it's a research room where essentially all of our members get to jump into this one space together and put in a bucket load of research all based on one topic.
• 1:34:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I think the first topic is gonna be urban legends.
• 1:34:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's gonna be so much fun.
• 1:34:36
  SPEAKER_02: Hometown Legends, and it's gonna have interviews and photographs and all sorts of bits and pieces with a whole heap of women putting in all of this information into one space.
• 1:34:48
  SPEAKER_02: Talk about a database and a heart.
• 1:34:50
  SPEAKER_00: I know that's the best part.
• 1:34:52
  SPEAKER_02: Is at the end of that, we get to put together a book or a documentary or an academic journal, or that information will be part of something tangible that can then go out into the wider community.
• 1:35:04
  SPEAKER_02: So we are like final, we have our funnel going, which is so great.
• 1:35:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh that's amazing.
• 1:35:14
  SPEAKER_00: All right, yeah.
• 1:35:18
  SPEAKER_00: You heard it, yeah.
• 1:35:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, exclusive.
• 1:35:22
  SPEAKER_00: Now I can call it an exclusive interview.
• 1:35:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like we may find him Zach Baggins, exclusive.
• 1:35:32
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 1:35:33
  SPEAKER_00: See, this is where I get in trouble because then I have like a bunch of girls on and then it just becomes a bunch of gossipy girls.
• 1:35:38
  SPEAKER_00: See?
• 1:35:39
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:35:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's why we're ebbing dungeon tools.
• 1:35:49
  SPEAKER_00: I will get in trouble.
• 1:35:50
  SPEAKER_00: I have I'm really I gossip is a is a big, big problem for me.
• 1:35:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I have I've I've repented for years of it, and I try to stay away from it because I get get flabby.
• 1:36:01
  SPEAKER_00: But I just I have really just enjoyed this time, and I really appreciate you guys being so flexible and awesome.
• 1:36:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I just love that this is like such an awesome community that you've built.
• 1:36:12
  SPEAKER_00: So you should definitely be proud of yourselves for sure.
• 1:36:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 1:36:17
  SPEAKER_00: So tell everyone how they can find you.
• 1:36:20
  SPEAKER_02: The best way to find us is uh cryptidwomensociety.com.
• 1:36:24
  SPEAKER_02: You can go over there, you can still become a founding member, which gives you all of the perks and lifelong um pricing access and all sorts of other bits and pieces that will change soon.
• 1:36:35
  SPEAKER_02: So the best thing to do is get over there, quick smart, and get yourself a nice Wii membership.
• 1:36:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we're really active on Instagram, so that's just at Cryptid Women's Society.
• 1:36:45
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we're on TikTok, we're on YouTube, and we are going to be super, super active on YouTube where our lives will be and all that sort of stuff.
• 1:36:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's awesome.
• 1:36:56
  SPEAKER_02: You can find us over on all of the cool social platforms.
• 1:37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Excellent.
• 1:37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 1:37:01
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you so much, guys.
• 1:37:03
  SPEAKER_00: And guys, thank you.
• 1:37:04
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for listening.
• 1:37:06
  SPEAKER_00: Remember, the truth is out there.
• 1:37:08
  SPEAKER_00: God is with you, and everyone always ends up in the kitchen.