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- 1:02called Lord and as always, back in the Captain's chair once again,
- 1:07it's your boy, DJ ben I mean a Ka Lando, Californication, Chewba
- 1:12Ka Khan, the Riz, Skywalker, Jedi Master, Daylight, Soul Hand,
- 1:19Dolo Tylo Bent here in the spaceship tonight, and as always, I'm
- 1:26joined by Tatiana King, the Grand that is a tech also known as the
- 1:30Lord of Lightsabers, Lambo col Risian Jen and Juice Urso, Gucci Mandalorian Good
- 1:38Grief Karga and Moishanna Saya. And if you don't know what that's referred to,
- 1:42please go listen to our review of episode three of The Acolyte. Please.
- 1:49I just I just realized that her last name was Anna say this week,
- 1:52and I was about to be like Mama, say my say Mama.
- 2:00Oh yeah, that's right, folks, we are back to rev review recap,
- 2:05react to the fourth episode of as I like to call it, the
- 2:09Alkohali. I don't know, I don't know if I'm pronounced. It's act
- 2:14all the first act, right, I just gave it to like I guess
- 2:17gave it to the Houston accent and the butcher of names. You know,
- 2:22how do you know? If you're a long term listener of For All Nerds,
- 2:24you know that I am the butcher of names the act of like she
- 2:29yes, you know, I don't know whatever. We're back to review episode
- 2:32four. If you've been listening, we reviewed the first two episodes, which
- 2:37we were both kind of about, and then you know, the third episode
- 2:42came around. Shout out to the YouTube comments I saw somebody talk about Oh
- 2:46all, y'all talking about in the episode one and two is three, so
- 2:49I guess ial come back next week. And I'm like, well, maybe
- 2:51you should because one and two were kind of underwhelming, and then yeah,
- 2:55and then three came around and we were like, okay, okay, you
- 2:59know the whole flashback episode. If you peep last week, I mean hopefully
- 3:01you did. You know it was a flashback episode. Moesha was introduced,
- 3:07and you know it didn't that's and for those don't still don't realize, Mosha
- 3:13is May and Osha after they've done their fusion dance. Yes, you know.
- 3:23I had to break down that clip on Twitter because our comedy stylings were
- 3:27incredible, Like there was a Wonder Twins reference and then you made a the
- 3:32DBZ reference and then we flipped it. And when I'm cracking up laughing,
- 3:37I already knew you was going to go to Mosha from Mosha already felt it,
- 3:39you know the vibes coming. I already knew Moasha was coming as soon
- 3:46as you said motion. That's why if you watch the video, I'm already
- 3:47falling out because I already knew Moesha was coming. It was right there.
- 3:53It was easy. And then I come back with the Ray J reference and
- 3:55this is all in like twenty seconds, folks, unscripted, just off the
- 3:59throom. This is legit plastic material watching right here, folks. This ain't
- 4:03just content. This is art. You know what I mean it is?
- 4:08It is art. We love to do it basically. So yes, to
- 4:11your point. Mid first two episodes, the third episodes where it hit for
- 4:15me, we connected where I could. I think we both did. But
- 4:17that was when I was like, okay, we got something solid. Yeah,
- 4:21And now episode four, this is the last of the episodes that we
- 4:25got ahead of time. Guys, So what were your thoughts now? You
- 4:31did say last week, you did say about how you were nervous about the
- 4:36direction that the show would go, and you said you you think you hope
- 4:41they wouldn't do this. But a lot of Star Wars properties do this that
- 4:44they lean back on familiar ground and the ship that they've done before, like
- 4:49especially like there's there's rarities you don't like, andor but like where they seem
- 4:55to be going and trying to do something new, and then they just spec
- 4:57slided so that I'm episode four, mmm, like we said, Episode three
- 5:03was on that upswing. I have to say. Episode four, you know,
- 5:05it was back to form fan damn, and it's fob because I've seen
- 5:12out there loving this show. And then I saw Forbes say, you know
- 5:16what everybody saying, the show is mediocre. And first of all, what
- 5:21is Forbes doing talking about this? But Forbes talks about everything, which is
- 5:26weird. But Lane, I know, but that's all. There aren't no
- 5:30lanes anymore, you know what I mean. Everybody's different than anything. I
- 5:32don't. I don't want to hear ship from a wealth. We'll talk about
- 5:36that later. But anyway, I saw Joe Budden talking about ninety seven.
- 5:40It's like, you know, but he's a he's he's a person media personality
- 5:43that he actually didn't talk about anything and and has interest. That's fine,
- 5:47I'm talking about fucking Forbes. I don't care about that. But any well,
- 5:50they called a mediocre. I would not call the show mediocre weird,
- 5:54it's not mediocre. But no, it's not mediocre. But this episode,
- 5:59I was worried about certain things, and I felt like this episode started them
- 6:03already where we're already only an episode four and OSHA's Change Your Heart and this
- 6:10is it osh right, I got that one right right? Yes, the
- 6:12Evil Twins, Evil Twins, the good Son. Yes, the good Son's
- 6:17change of heart in this episode felt so unearned and all right back to this,
- 6:23like there's supposed to be this whole mystery of like and we still we
- 6:26talked about that last week. Who really killed the witches because they just got
- 6:30taken out? The fire did not kill the witches because first of all,
- 6:33you saw a little rumble and crumble around them when when they was laying out
- 6:38like you know, doing the death polls. But they something happened to the
- 6:42witches before anything else with the fire. That shit wasn't even there. That's
- 6:46what we're hoping because like Osha seems so confused, right, like she knows
- 6:51what happened. Either she knows that she killed the witches or she knows she
- 6:56didn't kill the witches, but she's out hunting the Jedi like she didn't.
- 7:01She's hunning the Jedi, saying, y'all are responsible for the death of my
- 7:05parents and my family. And I'm just like, well, wait a minute,
- 7:09and what is it? Yeah, you know, wa there one mic.
- 7:13But then in this episode she flips it and it's like halfway through the
- 7:16episode to suddenly really kind of I didn't feel like it was earned. It's
- 7:20suddenly like, hey, I don't have to do this, I don't have
- 7:23to be on this revenge tour anymore. I can just, you know,
- 7:27go be with my twin because she's alive. Fuck it, you know,
- 7:30like instead of but why would you go on to revenge tour if there's a
- 7:33chance your twin is alive in the first place? But she didn't think there
- 7:36was. I don't think she thought that there was a chance, Nigga.
- 7:39You And that's the question was gonna that's a question I'm gonna race. I
- 7:44don't think she knew whether her twins live. But I'm like, wait a
- 7:46minute, Nigga, you're the one who basically had had a false death.
- 7:50So I call it a trap door death right where it's like you didn't really
- 7:54die, but you you know, we see you fall. You're the one
- 7:57who people think is gone to what's going on now? That lead to a
- 8:00further mystery. Maybe something happened with her mind in some wine white situation and
- 8:03the mass she was she was told something else then than what we see,
- 8:09And that's also been the tenants of this show that they had been pushing since
- 8:13the beginning. There was like don't believe Even Master Soul says that when he's
- 8:16talking to the Young Lanes, he's like, don't trust your eyes, don't
- 8:20trust the things you see. Like that has been part of the thread that
- 8:24they've been building for this show thus far. So I can understand later if
- 8:28they're like, oh, you know, but it also feels very like,
- 8:31to your point, a bit unearned, and it also feels like a cop
- 8:33out, like, oh, she just didn't know by none of this because
- 8:35she was my wipe and dah la la lah. And I'm like, okay,
- 8:39yeah, like I don't believe you. I don't know. You need
- 8:43more people, And especially if they do that like certainly like we got a
- 8:46flashback or the Master of Mind wiping her, it's like you should have shown
- 8:52that before. I kind of feel something, you know, like because right
- 8:56now her motivations are so strange, because like we said, she's on this
- 9:01revenge story and then she's not pretty much in this episode. Here's a different
- 9:05question for you. Okay, so then I want to get to my real
- 9:09It's also sentiment based on the fact that you're not really in love with and
- 9:16not to say you have to be in love with these characters, but I
- 9:18don't know if you really like Osha as a character. I'm I'm not very
- 9:22convinced of Osha as a character because I don't understand OSHA's motivations right. And
- 9:28it's the same way in this episode I questioned May's motivations. Right. May
- 9:35has a moment where she's talking to Jedi Master Soul and he's like, I
- 9:39want you to come on this mission with me, and she brightens up talking
- 9:41about you want to be back in the Jedi order. Hey, but you
- 9:45can tell that. But see when she was watching the Young Wings doing a
- 9:48judo practice, you can tell she was just like, damn, I want
- 9:52that life again. I want that life back. I'm tired of being a
- 9:54little, you know, grease monkey on the outside of ships. I want
- 9:58to be out there. I want to be where the people are. You
- 10:01know what I'm saying, Like she she want to be up there. I
- 10:03get it, you know what I'm saying. Remember I told her she'd been
- 10:07on her aerial ship. She and and keeping right because she had the best
- 10:11ship. You know, she had a bunch of women down with her,
- 10:16and they had powers. I really don't understand that, you know, like
- 10:22I don't want to fail princess that has command of the seven Sies. Nope,
- 10:26I don't want it. So, you know, she brightens up and
- 10:30it's like, yeah, I want to be a Jedi again. And he's
- 10:31like, nah, not really, and it's like, what why would you
- 10:33want to be a Jedi again? You left off your own will. It
- 10:39wasn't like anything as far as we know, terrible ship was happening. Nothing
- 10:45was just like that. That's an important point. Then we don't know what
- 10:48exactly was it, Like did you just just drop out like you like,
- 10:52I'm tired of this college course. Here's the withdrawal or did you was there
- 10:56something of substance that made you go? You know what? This isn't for
- 11:01me. I don't like it's we can not explained, And I don't think
- 11:05that's a part of mystery that has to me. That's nothing to do with
- 11:09mystery. That's like, can you give me you're missing a foundational block for
- 11:13me, like you don't understand these characters. And that's why I said,
- 11:16And then let me let me correct what I said earlier about loving the characters,
- 11:20just understanding the character. You don't have to like anybody, but do
- 11:24you understand do you understand to your point the motivations, whether the character is
- 11:28the antagonist, protagonist, whatever, good quote, bad quote, What do
- 11:33you get it? Like case in point, my favorite Lex Luthor, I
- 11:39get it, Yeah, I get it. Then nigga hate that Nigga is
- 11:41Kendrick, He hate that nigga Clark Superman fine, but you get why he
- 11:48makes it. It makes they make it very clear through story and experience why.
- 11:50I don't see the why here yet? Yeah, you know, I
- 11:54don't ever agree with lecturecause he really believes the Superman that's holding back humanity,
- 11:58right, and he and youn't have to agree, but you want to see
- 12:01and like Superman says that you could have helped humanity all the time I was
- 12:05here, you just wanted to fuck with me. So yeah, jealous bitch,
- 12:09But ask that before you want to get there, like ma, before
- 12:20you wanted to I wanted to ask that question about did you even understand the
- 12:24character to really and is this now affecting like how you even viewing this story?
- 12:30Yeah, because I'm not understanding these niggas or Osha are both making choices
- 12:35when I'm like word fam like for reals, and then it's getting back into
- 12:43that goofy you know Disney Star Wars and I don't want to blame Disney because
- 12:48a lot of cats out there and be like, oh, the Disney's fault,
- 12:50and Star Wars has always been fucking super uber goofy's mixing with bits of
- 12:56darkness, you know, but it has a lot of goofiness, like when
- 13:00she's like, I'm sensing my you know, her out there again. I'm
- 13:03sorrying like she's feeling the connection to the forest again, and it's like,
- 13:07what it's because then you train, now they're on the planet Pandora, and
- 13:13now you can feel the earth around you. I'm like, since when?
- 13:16And again it just feels more of that unearned or unrecognized thing, like where
- 13:22is that foundational block that would have made me understand? Now? You can
- 13:26sure as a viewer, you can just try to fill in the gaps to
- 13:28yourself. It's not hard to make the mental connections, but it's just like
- 13:33it's it still feels like almost a stretch, like so what triggered this to
- 13:39happen? Just because maybe you're closer to your sister, you're physically closer,
- 13:41so then your powers combined. Captain Planet Like, I don't, I don't
- 13:46understand, So I just would like to know. And I know so many
- 13:48people will listen to this and be like, you know, you guys are
- 13:50nitpicking. I can understand that too, But I would then implore you to
- 13:54explain to me how does this happening? I would ask anybody, and if
- 14:00no one could give me like a very clear, straight answer, well you
- 14:03gotta go back to chapter fifty five of you Know the Old Like, I
- 14:07don't. I don't need that. I want the story of the Accolade.
- 14:09I want the story of May and Osha and all these people and how this
- 14:13comes about. I don't want to know about who did what two hundred years
- 14:16ago, and like that's not what I'm here for. And that's and that's
- 14:18what I mean when I'm just like, there's something missing or misunderstood here and
- 14:24and maybe it'll be revealed, but if it be revealed later, I'm like,
- 14:26well that was kind of backwards, yeah, And I'm like, do
- 14:30we have to have another flashback episode for this series to make sense? Is
- 14:33that what's going to happen, or we're gonna have another flashback showing why you
- 14:37know, young May leaves and why Osha gets corrupted. I would love to
- 14:41know what happened with her with the Jedi, because I did, because there
- 14:45was there's literally been no explanation made about why she just stopped training. It
- 14:48was just like she stopped for what reason? Why she just stopped you know,
- 14:54she just wasn't fucking with it no more. I'm like, okay,
- 14:56girl, And it seems like that's something that the Jedi just wouldn't all loud.
- 15:01I even know, you could drop out like that or at least keep
- 15:03more tabs on you afterwards, because it's like you have power. You're definitely
- 15:09not even a weak little Jedi. You know, you come from a line
- 15:11of power and where just to let you ride like that feels dangerous. He
- 15:18didn't let you ride us again, we can't screit you up. It feels
- 15:20like a bit of an oversight, but yeah, and I mean that is
- 15:24typical of the Jedi being trifling, and so there is that, so I
- 15:28could see that being the case. But I would like some, you know,
- 15:33just a little bit more explanation there and for those to say that we
- 15:35are in n it picking. Now you want to nitpick. Here's just my
- 15:39one other note before my major thing. I want to talk about. My
- 15:41one other note was at one point, Osha calls them Jedi scum, and
- 15:46it's like Jesus Christ, It's just like it's because you've heard it in every
- 15:52Star Wars series ever, it's always Jedi scum, just like in the earlier
- 15:56episode when what's his name with Yord with the weird dreads is like, I
- 16:03have a bad feeling about this. He has to kill more dreads and he
- 16:07does have his but yeah, yeah, and New York says I had a
- 16:12bad feeling about this, which is another line that has been in every Star
- 16:17Wars thing ever, And to me, it's like, come on, fail
- 16:22these things. Yeah, I have a bad feeling about this as one,
- 16:25but Jedi scum, Like why would you you know? It's like is that
- 16:29just every the SIPs just called them scum every time we see the thing?
- 16:33Is I also didn't know because the way she's the character said it also sounded
- 16:37unsure, like she was just trying to amp up Camire, like yeah,
- 16:41all came here, you know, I'm down with the cause, right,
- 16:45that's what I thought. I thought that that was purpose. Maybe it's just
- 16:48a phrase that they phrase. It's a phrase that pays, and you know,
- 16:52she it's like hal hydra. They might it might be like hal hydra.
- 16:55It might be it might be a niggas die every day. Just somethings
- 16:59a throwaway line and you just say to express what's going on in the moment.
- 17:02But also to your point, I still think they're relying on it.
- 17:04Case in point, what Yes, Star Wars has always had like a goofy
- 17:10side to it from the beginning, but I felt this episode directionally backslid because
- 17:15I felt like the whole thing felt like a power point. There was the
- 17:18fucking wipe from the right, right from the left, Its all from the
- 17:22bottom circle. Like I just I'm just like a nigga. How many of
- 17:27these scene change effects that we go like every other scene was doing that now
- 17:32when you sparently are used for a particular effect or context. I get it
- 17:36because they've been using it throughout this the show, but this episode just felt
- 17:41particularly egregious for me. I was just like, guys, I get it,
- 17:45y'all are part of the Star Wars universe. Let the story speak for
- 17:48itself. I don't need the catchphrases. I don't need the wipes, the
- 17:53crawl like I get it. Like y'all, y'all did that set up this?
- 17:56And to your point, you said, maybe they did that in the
- 17:59beginning to make sure people knew this was Star Wars. Heart Fine, do
- 18:03that in the beginning and give me something else. Yeah, I'd have to
- 18:07rewatch and or to see how many of those times they did it. I
- 18:10remember them doing it, but I'm sure they do it, and maybe they
- 18:12just do it everywhere. I feel like in this episode because it's not something
- 18:18and or just you know, it feels it. It doesn't feel like this
- 18:22where it doesn't have that feeling of Star Wars you know is a Star Wars
- 18:26show. And the reason I'm harping on that is because of that point,
- 18:30Like I want the story can be strong and I want them to rely on
- 18:33story. Maybe that's hard because you have such a hard fandom to uh to
- 18:38please, and you have a hard corporate overlord to appease. And it's just
- 18:44like, yo, I have to even though I'm trying to tell a new
- 18:45story, I still got to stay within certain guardrails. That's the case,
- 18:48I get it. It's also like damn really yeah, but once again,
- 18:53we hate I hate to keep bringing up and or type what and or show
- 18:57that you don't have to exactly do that. You can tell really good stories
- 19:02that don't have even a light sabringdon not one like not one something that people
- 19:07are like, you know, this ain't star Wars with a and I've heard
- 19:08people call in or not star Wars. Yeah, there were other characters that
- 19:12were not Jedi, they're not real lightsabers, and it's called star Wars was
- 19:18about the war in the stars, you know, like this is what it's
- 19:22about. So I don't know, but this some good things that I really
- 19:29did like about this episode. I thought the jungle was really beautiful. I
- 19:32loved all the shots of Manny and a man of walking through the things and
- 19:37everything it looked, you know, really dope. Yeah, you fucked with
- 19:41them. Kel Knaka caught the bad one, but was living a life for
- 19:45a little bit. Actually I can't say he was. His home was a
- 19:49hobble. Well, first of all, that wasn't a hobble to him.
- 19:52He chose that place. That's the only thing. Y'all gotta understand these Jedi
- 19:56are choosing their path. That the other nigga who chose to be silent for
- 19:59two years and be a bitch, he didn't have to do it. He
- 20:03chose that life and just sitting there floating on the fucking invisible pedestal. Kum
- 20:07Knaka is a not a Chewboka, is a wookie and chose to be on
- 20:11pandora. Okay, I have to say that he's right up there. He's
- 20:15one level below bitch of the other nigga who was floating like hiding out,
- 20:19yeah, hiding out like now see, in this case, I do blame
- 20:23the Jedi, and I do blame I do feel Oshra because these niggas both
- 20:29did But again they did some shit that I don't understand why they did it
- 20:33because like if they thought that somebody else killed these witches, yeah, then
- 20:38they would be out looking for him, right And if they didn't think somebody
- 20:41if they were like, yo, I killed these witches, ye, Both
- 20:44for these niggas turn bitch instead of just fessing up to it. Nobody wants
- 20:48to fess up. It gave me thanos cooking plantings on that farm a farm
- 20:53planet where they just like I did what I needed to do and I'm just
- 20:57gonna go by my time. That's how with Ko Knacka was doing, I
- 21:00was just like, okay, you just is it gives me sailor moon when
- 21:06my man throws the cloak, you know my job he mask because you didn't
- 21:12do anything. I just no accountability. And yes, that's part for the
- 21:18course for the Jedi as well, the lack of accountability. So it's just
- 21:22like, well, fucked up and did a bad thing. I'm gonna go
- 21:25to the spat planet. And so that's why it's like, why would May
- 21:27want to get back down with these whole ass But she always had to me,
- 21:33And that's what I'm saying. I think that's just maybe she never grew
- 21:34up from that. Just the fact that that as a child, that that
- 21:38wonder of something different and something beyond the witches and this planet and the area
- 21:45of the little Mermaid effect that was, that's I think that's just never truly
- 21:48left her. God damn boy like, and then for her to be in
- 21:53proximity to them, you know, her love of soul in the past is
- 21:57continuing to to be riled back up. And then she sees the young Lades
- 22:03Jackie lawn. You see Jackie moving doing her tight chie and she's like,
- 22:07oh you know that shit, Lou look fired though. Oh you know,
- 22:11I could use a I could use a light saber, like I just that
- 22:15grass is green on the other side mentality. But I feel like she has
- 22:18that every every single day, and I don't know she has a little and
- 22:22that's why I'm like, maybe she hasn't really grown out that she still has
- 22:25and her sister as well, they still have a lot of growing up to
- 22:26do. Well, we only got four more episodes, so the better start
- 22:30growing because there is no growth in this episode. That was that was my
- 22:33thing. It felt like nothing really moved other than you know, we set
- 22:37up to, you know, get to that ending. Well, let's talk
- 22:40about that. Let's talk about that set up, like all right, but
- 22:42before we get to that, I do I do because one last thing I
- 22:45want to pick up is Daphne Keen as always is doing great work. Jackie
- 22:51Lawn. Uh yeah, I mean that's all I can say. I love
- 22:53her. You know, she mates every scene she's in better. I think
- 22:56she's killing it. I believe Jong Jay too, you know, yeah,
- 23:00Grandmaster Grand Jedi. Grandmaster Jedi was gonna call him, you know, he
- 23:06is the prototypical Jedi, prototypical an idiot. So so they have this weird
- 23:15like almost alien inspired trek through and I keep calling the planet Pandora. It's
- 23:19actually what's the name of the damn planet that they on right now? Who
- 23:25knows something? Talking with the t oh I want I wanted to call it
- 23:30thanals. But the point is they on day on day in the Amazon,
- 23:33and you know, there's animals and shit flying and there's just a random moth
- 23:38giant moth comes to try to try to bite them, and you know,
- 23:42it's just like a bunch of randomness that I don't think it has anything to
- 23:45do with story, right, Like especially I thought it was kind of funny
- 23:49when so it was like get behind me, I got this and it was
- 23:52just like very and it reminded me of the first fight. It was like
- 23:56very disappointing. It was just like it flew at him that he said bomp,
- 24:00and then it was over and then they moved on and then we got
- 24:03you know, wiped from the right, and I was just like, what
- 24:06was the point of that, What was the point of that scene? Like,
- 24:08does you know we know souls nice, be nice with it. It
- 24:14may may seem dumber. I mean, sorry, but it does. But
- 24:18she was touching the things. I'm like, bitch has an egg or an
- 24:22animal, Like when you see these trees with all this shit, nigga,
- 24:25what I'm not touching nothing? Nothing? You want to plan You never been
- 24:29on number one. It could just poison you instantly, you know, death,
- 24:34But what do you know? No? No, So they going to
- 24:37nature hike, they get they trying, they almost get to to kill Knaka,
- 24:44but and and of course and actually what's the face makes it there first?
- 24:48Not Osha, but but the may May make it their first. No
- 24:51Ocean, you had it right, sorry, no no, no, no,
- 24:53no, no no no no no no. Osha is the good one.
- 24:57May wait man back earlier. No we didn't, I said sorry,
- 25:03Maybe I did say it wrong, Yeah, no, because homegirls always looking
- 25:07for Osha. Osha is the good one. Osh's the one that's hanging out
- 25:11with Soul's the one that's hanging out with Soul. May is the one,
- 25:17right, Yeah. Anyways, the bad twin makes it there and sees that,
- 25:27you know, kil Naka got killed and that's obviously that's set up right,
- 25:30like to make it like, oh, you're always gonna have to because
- 25:33remember she she was already sewing dout with with Kmie. She was just like,
- 25:37oh, you know, asking all these fucking questions, how is my
- 25:40sister? What my sister like? What she talked to you about? Then
- 25:41you know her as you mentioned her tricking him and saying, I ain't got
- 25:45to do this shit, no more tricking him up. And I think what
- 25:48you said the other day, which was like your prediction of who you think
- 25:52this master is, Yes, there's nobody else that could be at this point,
- 25:56Oh no. And I was just on the internet that people are you
- 26:00know, making that all right falks like we said, if you haven't watched
- 26:04this now deep into the view. And I did not want to really go
- 26:07that hard on this last week because I'd already figured it out by the third
- 26:11episode. I had heavy hints by the second episode, but I was trying
- 26:15to let people live and you know, not spoil it. And now I
- 26:18feel like I'm already been scooped. But this nigga's the fucking master dog Camire
- 26:22is the master. Anybody else, It's no one else it could be.
- 26:26It's so painfully obvious in this episode that I can't believe people are still saying
- 26:33it's a theory because it's it's just shoved down your throat in this episode,
- 26:38Ayo that it's you know, came here comm here earlier says he doesn't know.
- 26:44You know, he the Master owns him, you know how he does.
- 26:48He just owns people. We owe him things, blah blah. He
- 26:51deflects on how he ever knows him. They get into the woods when she
- 26:55starts talking about how she wants to flip and you know, have a change
- 26:57of heart, he's like that once again. He adopts that other voice that
- 27:00I talked about before where he's like, he'll kill you, you know,
- 27:03real quick. And then he specifically says, no one can get through this
- 27:10stuff, you know what I mean without a guy. Your only way to
- 27:12get here is with a guy. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
- 27:18And then she's like, yo, there's no way he can get through to
- 27:19me. I'll tie Cameier up and bounce and jets to Kaka kil Knaka dead
- 27:26up Jedi, cut lightsaber to the chest, and then the Master rolls up
- 27:33and also just again just for Clarity's sake. May is the assassin's sister.
- 27:37Oh yeah, is a sister that's with with what's face sol on them?
- 27:41But obviously May is being played. We know this may be used, and
- 27:47even I've been calling her Nebula, the green Nebula, part of the Jedi
- 27:51orders. Oh yeah, she was just like, you know, there's a
- 27:53larger situation at work, which is also the ongoing theme and story of Damn
- 27:59Near every Star Wars, Star Wars, Yes, story and film is the
- 28:03menace. She's a smaller piece of the greater puzzle or or she or she's
- 28:07the first ball to get rolling of a bigger plan. The other reason why
- 28:11I was just like, who the fuck else could it be? But Camier
- 28:14is because of what you explained to me. You reminded me of rather about
- 28:18storytelling, right, like, at least good storytelling anyway, that it can't
- 28:21just be some random that we've never met before. No, it can't be.
- 28:25It has to be someone you've already been introduced to. That's how mysteries
- 28:27work. It's someone like in any murder mystery, the suspects. By the
- 28:32time someone's murdered, you've already met all the suspects. Because it can't be
- 28:36someone new because or you meet the suspects right after their murder whatever, but
- 28:40you can't start trying to figure out who it is and then suddenly there's a
- 28:42new person. It's like, oh, it's this dude at the end,
- 28:45you know, when you're trying to figure out and then the detectives like,
- 28:48it's none of these people, it's somebody else. What that doesn't matter,
- 28:52you know, it's like, why were you telling me this story? Then?
- 28:55Why did you include that person in it? So it had to be
- 28:57someone that we knew already. So that that was my big suspect, because,
- 29:00like we said, there's not many characters, so I'm like, it
- 29:03has be someone we know. And Camier started at the front of me in
- 29:07episode two when he was so willing to kill when he talks about how all
- 29:11the Jedi have a weakness, his hatred of the Jedi, when he starts
- 29:14talking about how they think they found peace and all this stuff, that's what
- 29:18they're all searching for, blah blah blah. So that was another big tip
- 29:22off. Then the third tip off was when he knew where kill Knaka was
- 29:26and he's like, you know, I can get to him easy, no
- 29:29problem. And Jill Knacka is a Jedi who's been hidden from everyone, and
- 29:33then he talks about I got close enough to know where he's at and killing
- 29:36knocking then know who he was. I love your pronunciation by the way you
- 29:40call him kill Knacka. That's on some kill manger kill knaka. Shit.
- 29:45I don't funk about this nigga obviously, because my man gets served like the
- 29:48sucker. And then the last one, like I said, is he leaves,
- 29:53she leaves him tied up, and then suddenly the Master shows up at
- 29:57the end. It was just like Voldemort. Yeah, I will say he
- 30:03definitely was terrifying. I've watched the episode a couple of times now. Every
- 30:07time he shows up, he's scary. You know that move how he pulls
- 30:11the lightsaber up and flies off wirkup. I didn't pick up when he eated
- 30:17all of them at once. I said, oh, yes, something's happening.
- 30:19And then what happened the white the episode over, I was like episode
- 30:23yeah, but again, I just I'm still very upset how they nerve,
- 30:32like, don't tell me. These are all powerful, you know, like
- 30:34Master Jedi, and then they get got by like a half the time they
- 30:41Tay May like this episode. They spent a great deal of the episode talking
- 30:44about how May is trained, but she ain't all that. Not May.
- 30:45Yeah, man, May is trained, but she ain't all that Like she
- 30:48she leads with her emotions and that I like, you know she's strong,
- 30:52but you know she she ain't got it all the way. But I'm like,
- 30:53but she served two of y'all already easily, technically easily so and in
- 31:00my head, I'm like easy because I'm like, ain't no way, Like
- 31:03if y'all at least maybe y'all not on Soul's level, but if y'all supposed
- 31:06to be at least on Soul's level, why is like things happening like this?
- 31:10So like, no, they're Jedi masters. They're on Soul's level.
- 31:11They are all Jedi masters. They are supposed to be nice. They're not
- 31:15even Jedi Knights. They're Jedi masters. It's another level of it. I
- 31:19don't see it. I don't see it. Like and again, I don't
- 31:22know if this is just now script or what, but I don't like it.
- 31:26Now. The crew is Soul are not all Jedi masters, Soul Master.
- 31:30The rest of them is yeah, Knights and Pataws they scrubs. I
- 31:33guess Killer is a knight and the rest of the Padawans they're all scrubs comparatively.
- 31:37And that's fine, But that makes sense to me because they made that
- 31:41very clear. But don't tell me and then don't show me some mid stuff
- 31:45happening and like like dirty trick type fighting that they fall for. I'm like,
- 31:51and that's why I keep questioning. It's like, Yo, it's the
- 31:52Jedi stupid or are they like? Which one is it? It's like,
- 31:56are they stupid? Are they nice? Well? The thing is, what's
- 31:59his name? The Master is a sith lord of some sort, so he
- 32:04is supposed to be dumb, powerful as we They made that clear. He
- 32:07was done. I'm talking about how the fuck then may get that going?
- 32:12I mean we are in no way. Yeah, we've already distressed how to
- 32:15make get this and but then that's again it's the ineptitude of the Jedi.
- 32:19Like you said, the Gomora of the Jedi is over here. They're like
- 32:22we talked about this. How they are like, oh who could this be?
- 32:23You know, like nobody could threaten us? Oh my god, Yes,
- 32:29she's green like Gamora, but I call her Nebula, because she talked
- 32:30like Nebula did that stuttered. Hey guys, she's nowhere near was Nebula.
- 32:37Don't ever compare it to my lady to love the council. Yeah no,
- 32:46see that's Nebula. This girl talked like like a slack jaw. You talk
- 32:54like that, bro, They all sounded like slack jawn yokles at that council.
- 33:00I just again, I don't know. I it's just this is convenient
- 33:04storytelling or what. But I this is, this goes. This is like
- 33:07a Marvel problem about the power sets. Like sometimes you want them to be
- 33:10all powerful. Sometimes you don't. Sometimes you want them to be seasoned and
- 33:15well versed. And sometimes it's like, oh, look to the left,
- 33:17what's over there? Wow? Like I'm just like, come on, like
- 33:21it doesn't make sense, so like so fuck him up, Like I don't
- 33:31know, but yes, that being said the Master, the sith Lord or
- 33:36whatever he's supposed to be, that man got it. He got it.
- 33:38And and to your what we said that it brought me to attention, like
- 33:44whoa, Okay, now we're getting something that that matters because all that other
- 33:47shit, that a lot of shit that happens episode didn't matter so not at
- 33:51all because it wasn't explained why people were feeling this way besides saying and and
- 33:55and again made this say this changes everything, And my sister's alive. But
- 33:59we were like, well, why did you think she was dead? You
- 34:01was the one that went to the negative zone, so the negatives, and
- 34:05then when you see her alive, why do you know? Why don't you
- 34:08have that realization? Then when y'allk you mad time, like why did you
- 34:15just suddenly you know, why did you go be like go on this mission
- 34:19to kill this nigga when you could have just been like that she felt forced.
- 34:24But to your point, you saw your sister before you went to Pandora
- 34:29Planet. Yeah, convenience storytelling. I don't know, so the story could
- 34:35happen. Shout out to pitch me pitch meeting on that one. Yeah,
- 34:39that's a famous woman, So the story could happen because that's you know,
- 34:43that's what's happening right here. So what do we expect going forward? Then?
- 34:46Then? I don't know, man, Like you know, I feel
- 34:50like I feel like we're gonna get another flashback up and sold that it's going
- 34:52to have be like wow, Yeah, you gotta explain this shit, bro.
- 34:57Yeah, and and then I'm gonna have more and what what I'm really
- 35:00hoping that doesn't happen, but I feel like it is is we're gonna a
- 35:04flashback episode next week instead of having the fight that we want to see,
- 35:07and then you know, they're gonna make us wait for the rest of the
- 35:12fight with the Master. Yeah, with the Master, and then episode six
- 35:16will have him slaughter most of them Jedi at the beginning of it, and
- 35:20we'll be like, oh, the show's ope again. And then by eight
- 35:22their powers will combine and everything will be good and I'll you know, want
- 35:25to throw my TV off the wall. I feel like my my sentiments for
- 35:31these first four episodes have been very EKG like up up, like very just
- 35:37kind of you know, it's hasn't been consistent yet, like it stayed mid.
- 35:44It's consistently mid. Not episode three, no, no, but average
- 35:51mm hmmm. Because this episode was bad, Like you think this episode was
- 35:58bad? Episode four, I didn't think it was good, you know what
- 36:02I mean? I hate coinything bad, but oh it was like I couldn't
- 36:09get over how the obvious it's the Master thing, you know that was or
- 36:16maybe just obvious to me and like and like I said, if y'all been
- 36:19listening to every review, I'm not good at murder mysteries and ship like that.
- 36:22I can't think of a murder mystery move I've ever watched for I was
- 36:24like, Oh, that's the killer, you know, I just don't.
- 36:28I don't have that type of brain where I think of things like that.
- 36:30But this one was like, God, damn, this is the Master.
- 36:32There's no other way. But what if it's not? And it's like the
- 36:37Mirrors Evil Twins, I'm just they know that that's what happened. I have
- 36:50we been introduced. My job is done here besides the random like rodents and
- 36:57robots who we didn't talk about the roaded, We didn't talk about Basil.
- 37:02What was the point? Like, this is what I don't It made me
- 37:06think of a Basil from Austin Powers. This is what I find corny.
- 37:09And again that's just this is me personally. A corny thing about stores is
- 37:13that the introduction of these animals and people animals that it's like, are you
- 37:19are they Are you trying to make them cute? Are you not trying to
- 37:22make them cute? Like trying to make them, and I'm just like,
- 37:24but is isn't that the grown ass man that's trying to help you out out
- 37:30what I mean? It's just like, I don't it's niggas of oh shit
- 37:35calling him an it nigga got a name and that's why your I was almost
- 37:39called him Yondu fucking Yondu Jr. Is like his name is a puzzle,
- 37:45like like like like he was upset. Yeah, and then he's like,
- 37:47I took the time to learn his language. You know, most people just
- 37:52learn wookie, but your nigga get the fuck out of here. Don't nobody
- 37:53care about that. Nobody care You're you're about to get stabbed up by you.
- 37:57You should have learned better lightsaber fighting you about to so you got basle
- 38:01Bozzle is not the Master. So I'm just like, who else half the
- 38:07half the Jedi were being where is the end? Because he got screamed screaming.
- 38:12The nigga is screaming like a smoke alarm and just standing there screaming.
- 38:16They never go back to him. He's just standing in the middle of the
- 38:19forest screaming at the top of the Master cut him down on his way in,
- 38:28and he's a little he's a little he's a little rat type type nigga,
- 38:30so he's fine. He could floated by. And I don't want them
- 38:37to off him because that cute shit needs to go like all that, you
- 38:43know what I mean? That would that would flip it like right, They
- 38:46never killed when a little cute niggas like that, but they cheated the nigga
- 38:50with a name like a dog gore here and sniff this all right, go
- 38:57find me, nigga said, I tracking to keep up my tracker like this
- 39:00fucking terrible. So we know, we know Basil, we know all these
- 39:07random robots, Pip, annoying little Pip and and but the reason I'm naming
- 39:14these other randoms who else have we met? Who else has been on screen
- 39:17that has had a name besides in the canteena all the random robotic on the
- 39:23planet they left, and that ain't domestic And that nigga's super slim. Yeah
- 39:27yeah, the mass is skinty. So is it nebula slash like Nope,
- 39:35nope slash memorial. No. I mean they can't get there without a guide.
- 39:39There's only other one other person in the forest, That's what I mean.
- 39:44It's like because I'm also seen online like people saying and maybe you know
- 39:49this is before they're they're they're watching episode four, they're like nah, like
- 39:52that's obvious that it's camere because like, no, he can't be act like
- 39:57but I'm like, well, what if it is just that? What if
- 39:59it is and it is the truth? Yeah? It is that that.
- 40:02Like I didn't want to beat it one last week, you know, to
- 40:05really be like, look, dog, it's the cam here, it's the
- 40:07master. But I should have you sure. No, I was sure last
- 40:10week, but I just didn't want, you know, cause I knew it
- 40:14was like I didn't want to spoil it. I guess for people, but
- 40:17I should have said it there so people could be like, oh, Ben
- 40:20always be called on these things, you know, because that was one where
- 40:22I fucking knew it dog he was. I was sure by episode two.
- 40:25I was leaning hard damn. But episode three when he's like, I know
- 40:30where to find dude, I'm like, nigga, because you're the master,
- 40:36you know that episode three, that's episode two. That's I'm saying. By
- 40:38the end of episode two when he's like, yo, I know where to
- 40:40find him, I knew he was at those skits where someone walks in the
- 40:45store and they're like, I need to speak to the manager, and the
- 40:46person who goes bet goes in the back room comes back as the same person.
- 40:52Yeah, you want to come out, maybe speak to your manner her
- 41:00one moment. Help Pierre, you come out here, right yo. I
- 41:13don't but listen, we gotta we gotta start predicting what's happening, man,
- 41:17going forward. I know we kept saying we don't know, but goofy.
- 41:22Things have to get solved, man, for it's so catching the bad one.
- 41:28Is he gonna make it to the end? I don't know. That's
- 41:35debate. You don't know. I'm putting money on your getting taken out.
- 41:39Oh he's the sympathetic character and he's too pretty boy and he's been talking too
- 41:45much ship. So he done. I hope they keep Jackie. Please leave
- 41:49Jackie gonna know. Yeah, you're right, sold done, niggas. You
- 41:52know, the masters never make it. It's always your pattern on mates.
- 41:55It's sold done right now, or gets done up in his first fight,
- 42:02damn yeah, or maybe soul gets done one of those, like gives me
- 42:08junior master Vibes just got his first report. Yeah, he's a Knight now.
- 42:13He definitely told her he just made Knight from Padawan tonight and the Master,
- 42:16so he's one of those two is done in this fight, one of
- 42:22the two I get. I put money on it. Charles Barkley, Garon
- 42:25Tate. I'm trying to who. So wait, who did the Master eat?
- 42:31It was like four of them one screens as the niggas the first first
- 42:36he flicked Osha off to the side, but then when the line of Jedi
- 42:39came came at him, he needed all of them. And how many It
- 42:44was your Soul, Jeckie, and who was the other one? Some randos
- 42:49who are dead, That's what I mean, like Fozzle or like I'm just
- 42:52trying to remember who was still screaming still, you know, several miles away
- 43:00screaming. I don't I just it's it is them niggas, is red Shirts.
- 43:06I'm not counting them. I don't know who them niggas and then die.
- 43:08You know they're gonna get murked. The survival will be Jackie and then
- 43:15either Soul or And I'm putting money on your because there's still more episodes,
- 43:21so you're getting taken out. But then it could be the flip, you
- 43:24know, that could be their flip and so get taken out. Because I'm
- 43:28actually looking at this scene again just to like remember, and there was actually
- 43:31other you like you said you call them red shirts, right, Oh yeah,
- 43:34there's a bunch of niggas there. I forgot that there was a bunch
- 43:36of random Oh yeah, there's a bunch of them niggas they getting taken out.
- 43:40I did like the way the Master looked like that that hell helman and
- 43:45look like it looked like a joker type smile. Yeah, like it's just
- 43:46a carve out or cut out into the helmet. Yeah, I think that's
- 43:51part of the helmet. That smile, It's all part of it, that's
- 43:53all. And I before I was talking to about this off air, we
- 44:00always have what we call the basic bitch cosstume of the year that people overdo
- 44:04at all the cons that we go to. Usually it's like Deadpool or whoever,
- 44:08what's my Man? From Walking Dead? Nagan from Walking Dead? To
- 44:12a classic base Mandos, like a bunch of Mandos years ago. I gotta
- 44:16give that one that at least takes a little credit, But it was a
- 44:19fucking lot of Mandos, you know it takes a little bit more work,
- 44:22but it was a lot of them, Wolverine Logan especially another one. And
- 44:28this year this master is going to be a basic bitch costume for Star Wars
- 44:31people, especially because it's a definitely scary costume. People love to actually,
- 44:36you know, be intimidating when they ain't so, but there's certain will make
- 44:40it really look good. I will get them that. No, this is
- 44:44gonna be fired. They're gonna work this. Yeah, yeah, I see,
- 44:47And I see a lot of mashups with this costume. I see the
- 44:52Joker mashup coming already heavy, you know. I see things like that,
- 44:57which is to be corny. But anyway, I think that's about it for
- 45:00our view of episode four of the Acolyte, uh the act right, which
- 45:07ain't at the right. We will yeah, we will be back, just
- 45:10like y'all. Now we are in uncharted territory. We have not seen any
- 45:14of the last four episodes. We will be watching them a real time,
- 45:16y'all. So the reviews might be coming a little later in the week.
- 45:19We'll see mh. But yeah, man, we'll be back. Who knows,
- 45:24hopefully, you know, still four of us left, Still a lot
- 45:27of time left. You know, still we at halftime right now. The
- 45:30game cag either way. KG brok, Yeah it's up. Yeah, it
- 45:36ain't a blowout. You know, it ain't a blowout, you know where.
- 45:38Damn this game sucks. You know, it's like this game will turn
- 45:43around on it. They could still get a win, you know what I
- 45:45mean. You could still get a win out of it. So we'll see
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- 49:54you know, the rest of the year, once it drops, I'll be
- 49:57everywhere doing all kinds of things. So look out. We'll be talking more
- 50:00about it every week. And thank you. Please make sure you pre order,
- 50:04go grab yourself a copy. I promise you, it's so worth it.
- 50:07You know, I wouldn't be saying this if I wasn't. You know,
- 50:08we've been talking about your book for two years. I mean I've been
- 50:12working on it more, but yeah, for more. I know, because
- 50:15we've been talking about it as long as I could talk about it, and
- 50:17I was working on it well before that. I say that just so people
- 50:21understand. And when it comes to the creative process, when it comes to
- 50:22the films you watch, the TVs, you watch the books you read,
- 50:25this stuff is years in the making. It's so like and I've always known
- 50:30that because I've worked on films and stuff before, on TV shows obviously,
- 50:34all these different things, and you know, I've seen how long it takes.
- 50:37I'll think about a friend of mine script today and I say, damn
- 50:38shit, that scrip. I remember when I read it, like, damn,
- 50:40this is a great show and I still never been made it. And
- 50:44I was like ten years ago, like and it happens, you know,
- 50:46and then But we started working on this three plus years ago as far as
- 50:51I can remember. I have to check the exact date, but it's been
- 50:53around, like it's doing on three years. I remember I was talking to
- 50:55somebody today and I was like, Yo, it's doing on three years because
- 50:59it was three years go and it'll be I think it'll be three years in
- 51:01October when Mellow first approached me and asked me, did I want to picture
- 51:07on this? And the food of your labor are about to flourish, about
- 51:10to flourish three years later, and it's well worth every minute of it,
- 51:15so please pick it up. I can't wait for it to be out and
- 51:19everybody and then I can really fucking talk about it. Like I barely even
- 51:22been to tell anybody anything about it because I didn't want to spoil all the
- 51:24story that we have in it. So it's a beautiful space opera. I
- 51:29mean, it's about music, it's about blackness, it's about finding change in
- 51:34your life. It's about when you reach a point in your life and you
- 51:36feel like you're stuck in a point and you need to find a new way
- 51:38through life. It's about rediscovery and the magic inside of you. It's about
- 51:44a lot of different things, man. I think it's a lot of a
- 51:46really beautiful book. And then of course it's Stout the art by fucking Tom
- 51:50Mandrake, first comic Out art by Tom the macon Cole and all the man
- 52:02brows and brows