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Ep. 492: Foundations - Muzzleloader Hunting Strategies, Part 2 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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  Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson. Everyone, welcome to the Wire to Hunt Foundations podcast,
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  Speaker 1: which is brought to you by First Light. This episode
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  Speaker 1: is all about having some fun with your muzzleoader. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: we take things a little too seriously when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to deer, and that can suck the joy right out
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  Speaker 1: of the hunt. This week's show is all about going
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  Speaker 1: into the woods with your muzzleloader and trying out some
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  Speaker 1: you know, I guess, I don't even know if you'd
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  Speaker 1: call them unconventional tactics. Maybe they're not as popular as
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  Speaker 1: they used to be, but they are a hell of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun, often more fun than the kind
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  Speaker 1: of girl of warfare strategy that we we preach all
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  Speaker 1: the time, where you can't make a mistake and you
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  Speaker 1: you know, give these deers so much credit. So some
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  Speaker 1: of the things I planned to go through in this
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  Speaker 1: very episode, you know, they're not relevant just to you know,
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  Speaker 1: somebody carrying a smoke bowl in the woods, right Like
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  Speaker 1: you could use these for rifle hunting. You use some
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  Speaker 1: of these for bow hunting. Whatever you carry into the woods.
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  Speaker 1: The next couple of weeks, the next maybe month before
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  Speaker 1: the season ends, We've got you covered. My home state
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  Speaker 1: of Minnesota's muzzled or season last just a shade over
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  Speaker 1: two weeks. And it was on the very last day
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  Speaker 1: of that season, probably in like two thousand and four
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  Speaker 1: or so, that I had had enough of sitting in
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  Speaker 1: my bow stands freezing my ass off. We had several
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  Speaker 1: inches of fresh snow and the conditions were just perfect
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  Speaker 1: for sneaking around. I had super standards, and I had
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  Speaker 1: one afternoon to get it done. So I set out
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  Speaker 1: toward a patch of timber that starts high and ends
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  Speaker 1: low along a meandering trout stream on that farm. At
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  Speaker 1: that time, that was one of the few spots with
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  Speaker 1: good patches of real cover, which wildly enough were created
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  Speaker 1: by a tornado. This is a total aside here, but
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  Speaker 1: that experience of having an old growth deciduous forest get
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  Speaker 1: partially raised by a summertime twister changed the way that
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  Speaker 1: whole property hunted for the better. It went from being
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  Speaker 1: pretty bad all over to having one pocket of clear cut,
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  Speaker 1: level thick stuff, and you can imagine that's where most
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  Speaker 1: of the bucks hold up. It was one of my
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  Speaker 1: first lessons on micro climates and just how much can
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  Speaker 1: change in the deerwoods from year to year from things
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  Speaker 1: that are way way outside of man's influence. It also
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  Speaker 1: really made me appreciate having good betting cover where I
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  Speaker 1: can hunt anyway. That afternoon, I set out for that
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  Speaker 1: patch of tim birth that was thicker than the surrounding
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  Speaker 1: areas because it always has deer in it. I started
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  Speaker 1: to still hunt my way through the woods, looking for deer,
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  Speaker 1: looking for fresh tracks, and kind of just enjoying a
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  Speaker 1: nice early winter time in the woods. I guess I
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  Speaker 1: must have zoned out a bit, because after covering a
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  Speaker 1: couple hundred yards, I caught movement up the trail was
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  Speaker 1: a fox squirrel's tail waving slowly back and forth. You
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  Speaker 1: know how they do that when they're thinking about getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to really bark and blow up, but they're just
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  Speaker 1: kind of kind of kicking it around in their little
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  Speaker 1: squirrel head. What that squirrel was focused on was a
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  Speaker 1: pair of does, and they were maybe fifty yards away
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  Speaker 1: from me down the trail. I quickly moved to a
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  Speaker 1: nearby tree, used it as a rest, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: really know what happened other than I must have rushed
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  Speaker 1: the shop, but I missed badly. It wasn't my finest moment.
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  Speaker 1: It was one of those times in the outdoors where
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  Speaker 1: you believe you're about to go from zero to hero,
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  Speaker 1: only to go from zero to zero or less than zero.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I'm not really good at math. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: they took off and I checked the time, an hour
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  Speaker 1: left of daylight. I resigned myself to look for another deer.
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  Speaker 1: I also thought that i'd walk along their tracks, because
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  Speaker 1: they had cut back down into a valley that would
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  Speaker 1: keep them on the property I could hunt. I had
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  Speaker 1: never pulled that Northeast trick of walking down a deer
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  Speaker 1: in the fresh snow, and it really didn't expect to then.
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  Speaker 1: But those tracks circled around a spot I knew well,
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  Speaker 1: and I could see they dropped straight down in the
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  Speaker 1: valley in a way that might give me a shot
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  Speaker 1: if they were still there. This was because those tracks
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  Speaker 1: were etched into the fresh powder that showed they perfectly
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  Speaker 1: cut around a limestone outcropping that not only randomly houses
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  Speaker 1: a coyote den underneath it most years, but provides one
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  Speaker 1: hell of a vantage point from on top of it.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I might just be able to crawl up
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  Speaker 1: on it and glass those dose up. Once I peeked
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  Speaker 1: over the edge, I saw there was no need for glassing.
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  Speaker 1: Both of them were bedded like thirty five yards below me.
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  Speaker 1: It was a gift of an opportunity to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: and also happened to be one of the biggest does
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  Speaker 1: I've ever shot in a lifetime of shooting a lot
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  Speaker 1: of dos. That moment was one of those times aimes
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  Speaker 1: during hunting where a mistake led to a new direction
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  Speaker 1: which led to an Aha moment. While I had killed
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  Speaker 1: a few deer still hunting with my bow up to
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  Speaker 1: that point, I always kind of wrote it off as
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  Speaker 1: a way to satisfy my wander lust and my desire
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  Speaker 1: to be in the woods while walking around. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: really think of it as much of a good strategy
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  Speaker 1: for killing deer. But that's the thing about white tail hunting.
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  Speaker 1: It's what we think we know that we don't that
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  Speaker 1: teaches us the most. Now, while I wouldn't advocate this
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  Speaker 1: type of strategy without the right conditions, I would say
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  Speaker 1: that you can have some fun with it if mother
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  Speaker 1: nature serves up the right weather. I'd also say that
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  Speaker 1: you might be able to pull this off a rifle
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  Speaker 1: hunting in the general season, but it's a different thing
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  Speaker 1: when there might be several hundred thousand people in the
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  Speaker 1: woods with you. That's why I like it so much
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  Speaker 1: for muzzleloader hunting, because that's usually a low participation season
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  Speaker 1: and the odds of running into other hunters and screwing
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  Speaker 1: up their hunts pretty low. To sneak around strategy is
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  Speaker 1: a phenomenal way to learn ground while you're actively hunting,
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  Speaker 1: and a kind of mirrors what a lot of solute
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  Speaker 1: killers do on public land with their archery gear. You know,
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  Speaker 1: whether you're chatting with Andy may or Zach Farrenbau or
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  Speaker 1: somebody else who just gets it done wherever they go.
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  Speaker 1: The idea of moving, moving, moving until the deer show
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  Speaker 1: you to stop is undeniable, even if it makes a
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  Speaker 1: lot of us kind of uncomfortable because we're unfamiliar with it.
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  Speaker 1: So while following fresh tracks in the snow isn't exactly
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  Speaker 1: the same thing, some of the same benefits apply. Plus,
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  Speaker 1: as I've mentioned, sure, it's fun if you've got enough
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  Speaker 1: room to roam, and you don't need snow to do
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  Speaker 1: this either. A good buddy and I drove down to
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  Speaker 1: Nebraska in the middle of December to try to see
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  Speaker 1: if we could find a white tail or a mule
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  Speaker 1: deer with our muzzle orders. Our destination was an enormous
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  Speaker 1: chunk of public land, thinking we would probably be able
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  Speaker 1: to walk down a buck since we had three days.
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  Speaker 1: Our hunt took place in the sand hills, and what
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  Speaker 1: I learned after about six hours of that trip was
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  Speaker 1: it my ea scouting for it really sucked. I also
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  Speaker 1: learned that the rifle season had really put the deer down.
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  Speaker 1: We had split up for most of the day, going
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  Speaker 1: into areas we thought were the most likely to hold
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  Speaker 1: a buck. My buddy had actually found a couple and
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  Speaker 1: had missed. I hadn't seen a deer in six hours
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  Speaker 1: of hiking, but I did find plenty of spots where
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  Speaker 1: other hunters had set up recently. I also realized that
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  Speaker 1: I was somewhat checked out and not hunting the way
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  Speaker 1: I should be. We met up for an early afternoon
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  Speaker 1: lunch of pocket rocket soup on the tailgate of his truck,
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  Speaker 1: after which we decided to go in where he had
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  Speaker 1: had his encounter. It was more of the same, which
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  Speaker 1: is frustrating when you can glass, a ridiculous amount of
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  Speaker 1: good looking cover and not turn up a deer. But
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  Speaker 1: that happens in the real world. It happens a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Right after gun season, we had maybe half an hour
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  Speaker 1: left when we had a little conversation at the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of a draw about heading back to the truck. It
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  Speaker 1: was a long day and we were smoked. But I
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  Speaker 1: looked at my on X and I saw that there
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  Speaker 1: were two ridges left in front of us that we
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  Speaker 1: hadn't looked at yet. So we had a choice. We
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  Speaker 1: could hunt them at the best time of the day,
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  Speaker 1: or we could hunt through stuff we had already seen.
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  Speaker 1: So we made the obvious choice. And as soon as
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  Speaker 1: I stuck my head up over the first ridge, I
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  Speaker 1: saw a buck standing on the next one, playing his day.
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  Speaker 1: It was as if he was just placed there in
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  Speaker 1: the wide open waiting for us. That two year old
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  Speaker 1: white tail waited just a couple of seconds too long,
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what we were. And I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you what, there was a lot of celebrating going on
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  Speaker 1: when he tipped over in the yellow december grass. On
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  Speaker 1: that hunt, it felt like we had about ninety thousand
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  Speaker 1: acres of public land to ourselves and While it wasn't easy,
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  Speaker 1: sure it was fun. It got even more fun the
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  Speaker 1: next day when we found a really good meal deer
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  Speaker 1: buck that made the amazing, life saving decision to not
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  Speaker 1: walk in front of my buddy when all eight of
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  Speaker 1: his girlfriends did. If you're more of a pioneer than
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  Speaker 1: a settler in the deer woods, and you own a
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  Speaker 1: front stuffer, then there are opportunities out there to cover
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  Speaker 1: ground and fill tags while having a hell of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun. Now let me say this again, or
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  Speaker 1: explain it more fully. We have the tendency to internalize
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  Speaker 1: hunting advice, and a lot of that these days involves
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  Speaker 1: developing an amazing and then volume hunting it. If you
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  Speaker 1: don't have that option, then it's all about grabbing your
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  Speaker 1: saddle and going mobile over and over and over with
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  Speaker 1: your ambush sites. Both of these are good, do them
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  Speaker 1: if you can. But there is a third way to
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  Speaker 1: which the muzzler is ideally suited, and that's the still hunt,
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  Speaker 1: or in some situations you can more call it a
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  Speaker 1: spot in stock whatever, I don't care. Or you can
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  Speaker 1: do the tracking hunt like I did on that dough
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  Speaker 1: you know, seventeen years ago. Now that was one of
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  Speaker 1: those things I had heard about growing up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: those model to hunters wearing red plaid and simply walking
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  Speaker 1: down a big woods buck. I honestly thought that was
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  Speaker 1: mostly bullshit when I read about it. But then I
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  Speaker 1: did a mini version of that myself and realized that
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  Speaker 1: just because I think something is impossible or very unlikely
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  Speaker 1: doesn't make it so. Deer hunting is a wonderful route
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  Speaker 1: to take for many of those types of epiphanes, And
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  Speaker 1: of course you don't have to track one or still
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  Speaker 1: hunt one kill them. You can also take a page
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  Speaker 1: right out of the Rifle Hunters playbook and do a
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  Speaker 1: deer drive. But before that, let me explain how I
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  Speaker 1: feel about deer drives before I get into this one.
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  Speaker 1: As a young hunter who only bow hunted, I hated
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  Speaker 1: deer drives with a passion. I spent a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time post gun season scouting and archery hunting and rabbit
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  Speaker 1: hunting and squirrel hunting and shed hunting. And every year
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  Speaker 1: I found dead bucks that had slug holes in their guts.
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  Speaker 1: When I say every year, I'm not lying either. Some
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  Speaker 1: years i'd find several. I knew the groups that shotgun
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  Speaker 1: hunted the ground I hunted were big into deer drives,
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  Speaker 1: and I naturally assumed that they were just flinging lead
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  Speaker 1: without any serious follow up. Now I don't doubt that happened,
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  Speaker 1: but I also know that I was only speculating and
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  Speaker 1: looking to get piste off at the folks who are
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  Speaker 1: hunting quote unquote, my dear. The reality with it was
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  Speaker 1: that just like bow hunters, muzzle er hunters, and probably
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  Speaker 1: spear at laddle hunters, there are good shots to take
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  Speaker 1: and there are bad ones. Everyone takes both if they
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  Speaker 1: hunt long enough, and the bad ones are tough even
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  Speaker 1: if you give it a real serious effort. Recovery wise,
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  Speaker 1: it's a long story long. I've somewhat changed my tune
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  Speaker 1: on deer drives, even though they don't really do much
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  Speaker 1: for me personally, at least to be the poster on
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  Speaker 1: the end. I do love being a driver, and I
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  Speaker 1: really don't know why. I also love small, well planned
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  Speaker 1: deer drives with a muzzleloader when the conditions are just right.
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  Speaker 1: The last time they were for me, I was hunting
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  Speaker 1: a piece of public land in the Twin Cities with
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  Speaker 1: my dad. I knew there was a gnarly patch of
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  Speaker 1: river bottom cover that probably held a few deer, even
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  Speaker 1: though the gun season had just raged through. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: the whole reason we decided to go do a little
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  Speaker 1: one man drive in there was because someone else had
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  Speaker 1: walked through our first setup and I really kind of
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  Speaker 1: wanted to see what the sign looked liked in that bottom.
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  Speaker 1: So my dad posted up for a close shot where
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  Speaker 1: a bluff butted up to the river in a classic
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  Speaker 1: pinch point type of spot, while I circled way around
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  Speaker 1: owned the wind direction was perfect for him and would
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  Speaker 1: allow me to step into the river bottom and get
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  Speaker 1: winded almost instantly. That's exactly what happened, and as anyone
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  Speaker 1: who has been on a successful drive can probably relate to,
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  Speaker 1: I went full froggy and jumped when his gun went
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  Speaker 1: off and scared the ship out of me. Not only
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  Speaker 1: was the whole bottom covered in fresh tracks, a group
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  Speaker 1: of does had bounded out of the cover and stopped
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  Speaker 1: it right in front of him for an absolute chip shot.
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  Speaker 1: I'm far far from an expert I'm putting on deer drives,
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  Speaker 1: but that one shook out exactly the way it was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to, and it was pretty dang fun. And it
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  Speaker 1: was also you know, maybe not really like a real
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  Speaker 1: deer drive. It was more like a subtle nudge coupled
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  Speaker 1: with an eye towards the wind and the terrain, so
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  Speaker 1: it felt like there was some strategy involved. This is
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  Speaker 1: a great option if you want to get together with
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  Speaker 1: a buddy or two and have an active hunt, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not easy. I can put you in a position
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  Speaker 1: to take a not so great shot if the deer running,
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  Speaker 1: My advice is to try hard to push them in
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  Speaker 1: a way where they aren't going to go full greyhound
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  Speaker 1: past the standards, and if they are, just to let
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  Speaker 1: them keep going. But I also advise you, if you're interested,
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  Speaker 1: to try it. Just like with the earlier strategy of
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  Speaker 1: sneaking around a couple of well planned deer nudges, there's
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things for you. It keeps you hunting
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  Speaker 1: oftentimes during the hours of the day we're sitting on
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  Speaker 1: stand would not be very productive. But better yet, it
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  Speaker 1: gets you into spots to look around. Think about this
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  Speaker 1: this way. Most of the hunting advice you're given from
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  Speaker 1: traditional media is built on the promise of do this,
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  Speaker 1: then kill a buck. It's point A to B stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and some of it is good, relevant and worth consuming.
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  Speaker 1: But it neglects the real secret sauce to becoming a
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  Speaker 1: skilled deer hunter, which is a wide variety of experience. Sure,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: you could sit for three hours a season on a
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  Speaker 1: stand and that's going to give you a lot of experience,
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  Speaker 1: valuable experience. But so is a sneaky deer drive in
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  Speaker 1: the thick patch of cover in December. The deer that
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  Speaker 1: you move or don't move, or don't move in the
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  Speaker 1: right way. Those deer tell you a lot. Being where
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  Speaker 1: deer should be at that time of year, that tells
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  Speaker 1: you a lot. While it's probably a low, low odds
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  Speaker 1: type of hunting, if booners are the only deer in
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  Speaker 1: your hit list, the odds are high that you'll learn
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  Speaker 1: something about what dear generally like to do. And it's
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  Speaker 1: also fun. I know that so many of the voices
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  Speaker 1: in the white tail space push a very serious narrative
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  Speaker 1: and often seem to have as much fun on stand
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  Speaker 1: as you would in the dentist chair getting a root canal.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I recently watched a series about hunting White
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  Speaker 1: Tail Box, where the host, who is a very well
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  Speaker 1: known hunting celebrity and authority, could not have seen more
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  Speaker 1: bored if he tried. Honestly, it was kind of painful,
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  Speaker 1: and while a lot of big bucks died on that series,
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  Speaker 1: it really didn't look like fun. It looked like he
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  Speaker 1: was putting in the motions necessary to kill a huge
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  Speaker 1: deer where he knew he'd kill them and it worked.
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  Speaker 1: But you're not like that, and if you feel that coming,
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  Speaker 1: consider heading it off by having some fun. That might
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  Speaker 1: mean a still hunt, or a deer drive with a
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  Speaker 1: muzzle or a rifle, or if you've got a hell
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  Speaker 1: yeah attitude your bo The worst you can do is
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  Speaker 1: spend some time in the woods learning about deer, and
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  Speaker 1: the best you can do is fill a tag. Probably
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  Speaker 1: won't be on a huge buck, but it could be,
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  Speaker 1: Or it could be that you spend a Saturday with
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  Speaker 1: a trusted hunting buddy and end the night with a
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  Speaker 1: short blood trail on a delicious dough or a scrapper buck.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't fill a tag that time spent going
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  Speaker 1: a bit unconventional with a front stuffer, We'll give you
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  Speaker 1: a leg up on the remaining days of the bow season,
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  Speaker 1: because after all, there's still time left that we are
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  Speaker 1: going to get to the point of the season where
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  Speaker 1: a lot of folks say the hunting gets easier because
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: of that previously mentioned need to load up on carbs
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  Speaker 1: and cakels is the disappears in the real winner sets in.
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  Speaker 1: Even if that advice is largely bullshit for you, because
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  Speaker 1: it mostly will be, there are other ways to stay
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  Speaker 1: on the action as the clock winds down. The next
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks of this podcast will be dedicated to
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  Speaker 1: that time frame for all of you die hard folks
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  Speaker 1: out there looking to fill a tag when most of
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  Speaker 1: your competition is curled up on the couch under a
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  Speaker 1: blanket watching a bunch of Southern i of bucks turned
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  Speaker 1: into ghosts under the drawal of a monotone voice over.
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  Speaker 1: If you'd rather be in the woods than subject yourself
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  Speaker 1: to that, keep listening. I promise you we will figure
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  Speaker 1: out together how to kill the most difficult deer in
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  Speaker 1: the woods during the most difficult time of the season.
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  Speaker 1: That's it for this week, folks. I'm Tony Peterson and
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: this has been the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast. Please
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• 16:26
  Speaker 1: white tail hunting information and check out our Wired to
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  Speaker 1: Hunt YouTube channel as well.