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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 23) (5/19/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  This episode, we're going to dive right back in to
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  that Glaine Maxwell deposition and pick up where we left off.
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  Now the next section, McCauley is asking about Glaine Maxwell
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  and her friendship with the Clintons. McCauley, are you friends
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  with the Clintons? Maxwell? I am McCauley. Did you attend
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  the wedding of Chelsea Clinton a few weeks after the
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  date was set, let's say, a few weeks after you
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  left to go see your mother who was ill. Maxwell.
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  I don't recall exactly when I left, but it was
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  before a few weeks before. I don't remember the exact
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  timing of that, so I'm sorry. Can you repeat your question, McCauley,
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  did you come back to the United States to attend
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  Chelsea Clinton's wedding? Maxwell? I attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding, but
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  I don't know if I came back specifically for that
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  or not. McCauley, when we were looking at the flight
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  logs earlier, there was a flight where you ended up
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  in redacted. I believe it was in redacted. Do you
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  know how you got clearance to land at that redacted. Maxwell,
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  I need to have a look at whatever the document is, McCauley,
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  it's one of the flight logs. It was on the
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  flight with redacted. When we were talking about you landed
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  at redacted. I know you're a pilot. Do you know
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  what you had to do to get clearance to land
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  at the naval base? Well, that's nice landing at naval bases.
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  Mister Pagliuca. If you need to look at something to
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  answer the question, you can. If you can't answer the
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  question without looking at something, just indicate such Maxwell. Regardless,
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  I wouldn't have any knowledge of that McCauley was redacted
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  traveling with you on the flights that you were on
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  with redacted Maxwell, I would have to look at the document.
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  I wouldn't know if she was on all of them
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  or not. I don't know, McCauley, do you recall her
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  being on any of them? Maxwell, To the best of
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  my recollection, I think she was. I don't recollect exactly
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  what flight she was on or not. McCauley was one
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  of the co conspirators physically in the non constitution agreement?
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  Is that correct, mister Pakliuka. Objection to the form and
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  the Foundation. Maxwell, I have never seen the document, but
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  my understanding, I believe is that she was. McCauley. Did
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  you ever stay the night ever at redacted's house? Redacted?
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  Have you ever stayed the night there? Maxwell? In his
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  home Redacted? Maxwell? Yes, Maxwell, I don't believe I did. McCauley,
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  are you aware of anybody providing Jeffrey with two twelve
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  year old girls as birthday presents? Mister Pagliuca objection to
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  the Form and the Foundation? Maxwell, No, McCauley. Are you
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  aware of anybody ever providing Jeffrey with French girls under
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  the age of eighteen as a birthday present? Mister Pagliuca
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  objection to the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell, No. McCauley.
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  Do you know whether redacted provided girls under the age
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  of sixteen to Jeffrey for the purposes of sex? Paglue
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  objection to the Form and the Foundation, Maxwell, I am.
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  The answer is no. I don't know anything about that. McCauley.
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  Did you ever witness redacted bringing girls under the age
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  of eighteen to any of Jeffrey's residences? And we're talking
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  about Jean Luke Brunell here, I would guess mister Pagliuca
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  objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I don't
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  recollect redacted coming to the house with girls period. McCauley.
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  Do you when I say house, I'm including the US
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  Virgin Island home. Do you recollect redacted bringing foreign girls
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  under the age of eighteen to the US Virgin Island's house. Maxwell,
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  I don't recollect anything like that. Perjury, one hundred percent
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  perjury right here, there is not a doubt in the
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  world that Jean Luke Brunell was bringing these girls to
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  America from Europe and elsewhere for these idiots to abuse.
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  And speaking of Jean Luke Brunell, maybe somebody should ask
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  Steve Manouchin what he was doing working with the dude. McCauley,
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  do you know how Jeffrey Epstein made his money? Maxwell? No,
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  McCauley was redacted one of his clients. Maxwell, I have
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  no idea, McCauley. What do you know about the relationship
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  between Jeffrey Epstein and redacted? Maxwell? Are you talking today, McCauley, yes, today, Maxwell,
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  I have no idea. McCauley. Did they have a business relationship? Maxwell,
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  I have no idea, McCauley, did they have a business
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  relationship during the time that you were working for Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell,
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  I believe in the nineties when I was there, they
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  had a business relationship. McCauley, Did they have any other
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  kind of relationship? Pack Leuka objection to the form and
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  the foundation? Maxwell. The only relationship I am aware of
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  is the business relationship, McCauley. Do you know why less
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  Wexner sold the New York House or gave the New
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  York House to Jeffrey if you know, mister Pagliuka objection
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  to the Form and the Foundation. And just so we're
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  aware in the redaction here it's redacted, but it's obviously
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  less Wexner. So when I can fill their redact in
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  with confidence, I'll do that. Maxwell, I know nothing about
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  that transaction. McCauley, Can you list for me all the
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  girls that you have met and brought to Jeffrey Epstein's
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  house that were under the age of eighteen? Mister Pagliuca
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  objection to the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell, I could
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  only recall my family members that were there, and I
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  cannot make a list of anyone else because that list
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  it never happened that I can think of McCauley, I'm
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  talking about the time you were working for Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Can you list all the girls that you found for
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  Jeffrey Epstein that were under the age of eighteen to
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  come work for him in any capacity? Pagliuka objection to
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  the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I didn't find the girls. McCauley,
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  you choose the word, Pagliuka. If you have the question,
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  ask it, you don't choose the word. McCauley. List all
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  the girls you met and brought to Jeffrey Epstein's home
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  for the purpose of employment that were under the age
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  of eighteen. Pagliuka objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell.
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  I've already how he characterized. My job was to find
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  people adults, professional people to do the jobs I listed before,
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  pool person, secretary, house person, chef, pilot, architect. McCauley, I'm
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  asking about individuals under the age of eighteen, not adult persons.
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  People under the age of eighteen. Maxwell, I look for people,
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  or tried to find people to fill professional jobs in
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  professional situations. McCauley. So Virginia was under the age of eighteen, correct, Maxwell.
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  I think we've established that Virginia was seventeen, McCauley, Is
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  she the sorry go ahead? Is she the only individual
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  that you met for the purposes of hiring someone for
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  Jeffrey that was under the age of eighteen? Mister Pagliuca
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  Objection to Form and Foundation mischaracterizes her testimony. Maxwell. I
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  didn't hire people, McCauley, I said met Maxwell, I interviewed
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  people for jobs, for professional things, and I am not
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  aware of anyone aside from now Virginia, who clearly was
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  massus age seventeen. But that's at least that's how far
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  we know that I can think of that fulfilled any
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  professional capacity for Jeffrey. McCauley, List all the people under
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  the age of eighteen that you interacted with at any
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  of Jeffrey's properties. Maxwell, I am not aware of anybody
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  that I interacted with other than obviously Virginia, who is
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  seventeen at this point. Maxwell Exhibit twenty one. Email mark
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  for identification. McCauley. I'm showing you what's been marked is
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  Maxwell twenty one. It's from an email dated January twenty first,
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  twenty fifteen, from Jeffrey to you. Is that you you
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  can take a moment to take a look at it
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  is that a statement that Jeffrey Epstein wrote for you
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  to be issued to the press. Pagliuca objection to the
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  form and the foundation. Maxwell. The question was McCauley, is
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  this a statement that Jeffrey Epstein wrote for you to
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  be issued to the press. Pagliuca, same objection, Maxwell. Is
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  there any other emails that you have that surround this
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  that would allow me to know what? Does this have
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  a context? McCauley, These were produced by your counsel, so
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  to that extent that there are emails that surround this,
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  this is what we were given Maxwell. Okay, I don't
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  know whether he wrote this. Obviously he wrote this and
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  send it to me. I don't know if this is
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  a post a phone call we had. I can't recollect
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  exactly McCauley. Do you know if this statement was issued
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  to the press. Maxwell? The only press statement that was
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  issued is the one that you have, McCauley. When the
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  paragraph refers to you being in a long term committed
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  a relationship with another man, who is that other man? Pagliuka,
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  You don't have to answer that, McCauley. I'm asking the
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  identity of a witness in a statement. She is giving
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  Pagliuka she didn't give the statement. McCauley, Jeffrey is writing
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  to her. I'm asking who is he referencing to a
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  long term relationship. You're going to refuse to let her
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  answer the question. Pagliuca. Yes, McCauley, I would like to
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  state for the record he is refusing to allow her
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  to identify potential witnesses in this litigation, So we will
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  get back to that question later on. McCauley, do you
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  recall when you were traveling with Virginia Roberts that you
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  would be responsible for holding her passport? Pagliuka objection to
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  the Forum and the Foundation. Maxwell I already testified. I
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  don't recall traveling with Virginia. McCauley. Do you recall whether
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  Jeffrey Epstein, when he was traveling with a minor, someone
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  under the age of eighteen, someone would hold their passport.
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  Mister Pagliuka object to the form. Maxwell, I couldn't testify
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  to what Jeffrey did or didn't do. McCauley, you never
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  observed him gathering a miner's passport and holding it during
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  one of the trips you were on. Maxwell, I don't
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  have recollection of that. McCauley. Are you familiar with a
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  company called Hyperion Air Incorporated? Maxwell? I am, McCauley. Is
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  that a company that you are affiliated with? Maxwell? No, McCauley.
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  Is that a company that Jeffrey owns? Maxwell? I knew
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  it back in two thousand and one, back when I
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  was working. I have no idea what that is today. McCauley.
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  What about je Ge Are you familiar with that company?
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  Jege Incorporated? Maxwell? I don't recall it. McCauley. You don't
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  recall it, Maxwell, It vaguely rings a bell. I don't
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  remember what it relates to. McCauley. What about the Jeffrey
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  Epstein Virgin Islands Foundation Incorporated? Are you familiar with that company? Maxwell? No, McCauley.
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  How about Jay Epstein in Company Incorporated? Maxwell again, I
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  don't recall his business names and affiliations. McCauley. How about NESLLC?
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  Are you familiar with that name? Maxwell? Again? I think
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  that was one of his businesses, but I don't recall. McCauley.
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  Do you know what that business did? Maxwell? I don't, McCauley.
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  How about New York Strategy Group Incorporated? Maxwell, I don't, McCauley,
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  What about Glenn Maxwell Company? Are you familiar with that company? Maxwell?
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  I never heard of it. McCauley. Is that a company
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  you are on record of being either a board member
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  of or having a position of authority in. Mister Pagliuca
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  objection to the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell, I've never
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  heard of that business. McCauley, what negative on flattering, private
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  or potentially embarrassing information? Does Jeffrey Epstein know about you?
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  Pagluka objection to the Form and the Foundation? Maxwell? I
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  imagine none. McCauley, does he know does he have any
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  knowledge of any illegal activity that you have conducted? Pagliuca
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  object to the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell. If you
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  want to ask Jeffrey questions about me, you would have
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  to ask him. McCauley, have you ever been involved in
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  any illegal activity in your lifetime? Mister Pakliuka objection to
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  the Form and the Foundation. Maxwell. I can't think of
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  anything I have done that is illegal. McCauley, have you
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  ever been arrested? Maxwell? I have a DUI in the
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  UK a long time ago. McCauley. Is that the only
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  rec you have on your record? Maxwell? Yes, McCauley, I
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  will mark as Maxwell twenty two. This email, this is
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  dated January twenty first, twenty fifteen. It's from Jeffrey Epstein
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  to you, forwarding the Guardian, and I would like you
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  to look at the chain of emails so you understand
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  and have an appreciation for who is on this. It's
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  a three page document. The bottom of the email appears
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  to be a message from There is a at the
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  very bottom there is the signature block for redacted, redacted
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  and redacted. And above that there is a message from redacted.
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  Do you see that? Maxwell? Uh? Huh, McCauley, Do you
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  know who redacted is? Maxwell? I do not, McCauley. Above
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  that there is a message from redacted and you. It says,
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  so this isn't getting better, latest from our chums at
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  the Guardian. And above that will you see on January
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  twenty first an email from you where you wrote see
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  below and right above the chain you will see Jeffrey
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  Epstein to you on January twenty twenty first, and his
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  statement to you is this will now end. But I
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  think a dismissive statement is okay? What did he mean
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  by his statement? This will now end? Mister Pagliuca, objection
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  to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I have no idea. McCauley,
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  did you discuss with them what he meant by that
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  statement this will now end? Maxwell, I don't recall McCauley.
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  Was he taking action to ensure that that quote? This
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  will now end? Maxwell, I have no idea, McCauley, Maxwell.
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  Exhibit twenty three email marked for identification. This is an
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  email from If you look at the chain at the top,
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  you will see it's from you to Jeffrey on January
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  twenty seventh, and the email at the bottom of the
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  chain is from Jeffrey to you on January twenty seventh.
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  He states, what happened to you and your statement? Question
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  mark question mark, and you put at the top. I
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  have not decided what to do Maxwell. Uh huh, McCauley,
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  Why was Jeffrey interested in making a statement for you
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  to the press? Pakliuka objection to the form and the foundation, Maxwell,
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  I don't know that he was interested. We made a statement,
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  and then I was being advised to make additional statements,
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  and I never did. McCauley, Was Jeffrey communicating with you
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  regularly on the additional statement you might make? Pakliuka objection
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  to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell, No, I've communicated
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  with him very little, as little as possible. McCauley, Why
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  did you feel that you had to keep him informed
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  of statements you were making to the press Pakliuka objection
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  to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell. I didn't feel
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  I had to McCauley. Then, why were you communicating with
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  them about statements you were making in the press Pakliuka
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  objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell. In so
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  far as this is the case, it's really all about Jeffrey.
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  It's not a case about me. All Right, folks, We're
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  gonna wrap up right there, and in the next episode
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  we'll pick up where we left off. All of the
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