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10-16 H1: What's On Tap, Mike on The Mic & ICYMI · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 3: and Christopher Kidd with you as well, as we'll take
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Speaker 3: you through the next four hours. It'll be a Monday
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Speaker 3: on a Friday. Monday morning quarterback coming your way, and
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Speaker 3: so four hours pretty much of not just recapping last
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Speaker 3: night's sucky loss to the Denver Broncos, 17-14 in overtime
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Speaker 3: on Thursday Night Football, but also It's game day again
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Speaker 3: for the Huskies, so we'll spend a little bit of
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Speaker 3: time on the Dawgs and a lot of bit of
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Speaker 3: time on the Hawks here on this Friday. And so
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Speaker 3: we welcome you in to the radio program. Christopher Kidd
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Speaker 3: is here. Anders Hurst is here. My name is Chuck Powell,
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Speaker 3: and we have a 3-3 football team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Didn't see that coming. Did not see that coming.
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Speaker 4: I struggle to really find a lot of positives from
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Speaker 4: last night.
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Speaker 2: There are some for sure, but at the end of
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Speaker 2: the day, you're 3-3. Well, a dominant defense. Yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 3: McDonald's defensive genius was on display again. It was just
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Speaker 3: unfortunately after two touchdown drives, and you thought that would
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Speaker 3: be enough, holding a team to 14 points to get
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Speaker 3: the win.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's... It's weird because I almost think you
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Speaker 4: could make the argument that defense is even playing better
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Speaker 4: this year than it was last year, which is crazy
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Speaker 4: to me that now they're 3-3 with all that stuff.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, there's just so much to get to. Obviously,
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Speaker 4: the turnover is going to be a huge conversation, but
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Speaker 4: I just... For me, it's a disappointing loss. Now is
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Speaker 4: the time where I'm starting to get concerned, personally. If
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Speaker 4: you look at the schedule, upcoming schedule, you look at rivals'
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Speaker 4: upcoming schedules, I know we don't really want to predict that,
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Speaker 4: oh yeah, they're a favorite in every game, so they're
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Speaker 4: going to win every game. But at least the way
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Speaker 4: the Seahawks are playing right now, yes, you could still
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Speaker 4: say it's kind of fluky, but it's... Not really just
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Speaker 4: a one-off anymore. That you keep finding ways to lose,
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Speaker 4: whether it's turnovers, whether it's penalties. And this is the
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Speaker 4: point where I start to switch the dial a little
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Speaker 4: bit to, I'm a little concerned about this team right now.
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Speaker 2: I'm not. I mean, yes, in terms of winning the division.
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Speaker 2: All right. Three and three start.
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Speaker 3: Three and a half game hold now because San Francisco
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Speaker 3: is going to win this week against Washington.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: That, and then if you also want to tie that to,
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Speaker 3: you know, this team's never won without home field advantage,
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Speaker 3: never won at all without home field advantage throughout the
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Speaker 3: entire playoffs.
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Speaker 2: Okay, if you're in the boat that we.
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Speaker 3: Have to have home field advantage throughout the entire, then yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'd start worrying about that. But I still think that
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Speaker 3: there's a team here that, like it did a year ago,
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Speaker 3: got better and better and better as the season went along.
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 3: I expect that to happen again. This year, obviously the
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Speaker 3: defense is for real. We didn't do anything to tarnish
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Speaker 3: our number one defensive ranking last night, that's for sure.
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Speaker 2: No, we did not.
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Speaker 3: So that's actually been strengthened after that loss last night,
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Speaker 3: that performance loss.
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Speaker 2: Last night.
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Speaker 3: And so I'm not worried big picture about this, but
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Speaker 3: certainly we've got a quarterback situation that has to be
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Speaker 3: discussed and figured out because you're not going to get
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Speaker 3: where you want to go if Sam Darnold's going to
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Speaker 3: play that way. And certainly here at the radio station
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Speaker 3: between Greg and his just don't turn the ball over edict.
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Speaker 3: And Hugh, who has gone out of his way on
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Speaker 3: numerous occasions to enlighten us to different statistics that actually
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Speaker 3: have more of an impact than turnover ratio on whether
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Speaker 3: or not you win a football game. I mean, we've
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Speaker 3: had that discussion for quite some time and Hugh will
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Speaker 3: be on the show again today. And so we'll certainly
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Speaker 3: bring it back up and get his two cents on
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Speaker 3: what he saw last night. Uh, so we've had that
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Speaker 3: ongoing debate, but the truth of the matter is you
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Speaker 3: can't lose turnover battles three to nothing. You can't when
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Speaker 3: your defense has pretty much said, all you got to
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Speaker 3: do is get in field goal range two different times
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Speaker 3: down the stretch once in regulation. And you ended up
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Speaker 3: getting in field goal range at the very end of regulation.
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Speaker 3: And then in overtime you, Your defense was playing so well.
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Speaker 3: Denver was so inept offensively. The defense is just like,
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Speaker 3: here you go, Sam. Just don't turn the ball over. Well,
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Speaker 3: you can't turn it over in that situation. You can't
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Speaker 3: lose 3-0, and you can't turn the ball over when
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Speaker 3: your defense is handing it.
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Speaker 2: To you and just saying, all right.
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Speaker 3: Just go hand mom the chocolate chip cookie tray. Just
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Speaker 3: walk over and hand it to her. And then you
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Speaker 3: fumble it on the way over and we got chocolate
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Speaker 3: chip cookies all over the floor.
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Speaker 2: Right. So that can't happen. And we got an issue there.
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Speaker 3: And then the third thing, and I think this might
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Speaker 3: be my biggest point of emphasis personally about Sam Darnold.
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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I agree with you more so
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Speaker 3: than I agree with Greg. It's not just as easy
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Speaker 3: as don't lose the turnover battle. I agree with Hughes'
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Speaker 3: assessment when he says there are bigger things that will
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Speaker 3: determine the outcome of a football game than just whether
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Speaker 3: or not you won the turnover battle. So his statement
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Speaker 3: is he's not promoting it's okay for Sam Darnold to
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Speaker 3: turn the ball over. What he's promoting is I can
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Speaker 3: live with a turnover as long as Sam Darnold is
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Speaker 3: ripping it.
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, let it rip. That was his edict last year.
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Speaker 3: When Sam had a little bit of the turnover problem,
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald was asked about it. We want him to
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Speaker 3: let it rip. So if you're Brett Farving the thing
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Speaker 3: and you are throwing an interception and a half a game,
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Speaker 3: but you're throwing three touchdowns a game, He'll take that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you take that all day long.
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Speaker 5: Of course.
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Speaker 2: If that's the Sam Darnold we're getting.
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Speaker 3: But what we're getting in the last two weeks, only
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Speaker 3: the last two weeks, because the first two weeks when
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Speaker 3: he came back, he was letting it rip.
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Speaker 1: Yes, he was.
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Speaker 2: But in the last two weeks, what.
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Speaker 3: We're getting from Sam Darnold is somebody that's not making
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Speaker 3: big plays and is still turning the ball over in
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Speaker 3: the worst times possible.
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Speaker 2: And that is unacceptable. And he knows it. Yes. And
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Speaker 2: Coach McDonald knows it.
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Speaker 3: And I'm sure Hugh is going to tell us the
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Speaker 3: exact same thing coming up at 8 o'clock today. Sam is,
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say the phrase because I don't
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Speaker 3: even agree with the phrase of the seeing ghosts, but
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Speaker 3: he's not playing confidently. And getting hit 17 times by
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Speaker 3: the defense.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't help. Doesn't help.
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Speaker 3: And he was leaving passes short last night. He was
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Speaker 3: late on his reads, therefore late on his throws on
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Speaker 3: occasion last night. He was leaving balls short to his receiver.
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Speaker 3: Did he throw Cooper Cup a decent ball all night
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Speaker 3: long in the game last night? He threw a couple
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Speaker 3: short to JSN as well.
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Speaker 2: JSN still finishes with his 12 catches, 134 yards. The
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Speaker 2: guy's amazing. So good. And he made some good throws
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Speaker 2: and he showed off his toughness.
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Speaker 3: He took some big hits last night, but it wasn't
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Speaker 3: a consistent what we saw from Sam Darnold a year
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Speaker 3: ago type of performance. It's a different Sam Darnold right now.
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Speaker 3: And I'll just Circle back, Anders, to the conversations between
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Speaker 3: Greg versus Hugh on this topic.
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Speaker 2: And if the.
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Speaker 3: Answer is Sam's so worried about interceptions right now that.
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Speaker 2: He's not doing anything well, then that speaks to Hugh's argument. Correct.
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Speaker 2: It's a process.
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Speaker 3: If we have put it in Sam's head, don't turn
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Speaker 3: the ball, don't turn the ball, don't turn the ball
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Speaker 3: over to the point now where he's not playing.
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Speaker 2: Carefree, let it rip, confident.
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Speaker 3: Football, which he's not, then that's probably a bigger issue
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Speaker 3: than committing two turnovers a game. Because by the way,
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Speaker 3: he hadn't committed a turnover. He was operating with zero
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Speaker 3: turnovers last night, late into the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 2: But then the timing of them and then the atrocity.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they were just.
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Speaker 3: Horrible, horrible, horrible interceptions. And he did not let it rip.
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Speaker 3: They were soft. They were underthrown. And frankly, they looked
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Speaker 3: like passes thrown by a quarterback playing the position scared.
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Speaker 2: And I don't mean scared physically, like these Broncos are
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Speaker 2: really hitting me hard. No, I'm talking about I can't
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Speaker 2: make a mistake right now. Oh my God. I just
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Speaker 2: made a mistake right now.
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Speaker 3: And then to do it twice in the span of
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Speaker 3: a half hour on a game where pretty much everybody watching,
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Speaker 3: including herb street and the booth is like, this game's over.
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Speaker 2: Broncos can't do anything.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: All the Seahawks have to do is not turn the
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Speaker 2: ball over. Oh my God. He just turned the ball
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Speaker 2: over again twice. Yeah. So, I mean, it's a big topic,
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Speaker 2: but yeah.
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Speaker 3: I can live with Sam Darnold losing the turnover battle
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Speaker 3: here and there. I think you're going to win most games,
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Speaker 3: but you can't lose it by three and you can't
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Speaker 3: lose it when the other team's handing you the win.
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Speaker 3: You can't turn the ball over. And if you are
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Speaker 3: going to play let it rip football, then you got
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Speaker 3: to let it rip. Because we didn't get big plays
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Speaker 3: out of Sam last night.
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Speaker 2: We got a few.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: We got a few here and there. Certainly more than
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Speaker 2: what Denver got.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the craziest part about it. We lost
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Speaker 2: a football game.
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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold commits two horrible turnovers, and that's the biggest
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Speaker 3: reason why we lost the football game. And yet we
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Speaker 3: had the best quarterback on the field last night.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Because what was playing in Denver wasn't even playing quarterback. No.
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Speaker 2: He was just, I'm the handoff guy. Yeah. Or the
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Speaker 2: screen guy. Yeah, I'm handoff back. Yeah. That's what I am. So,
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're not going to have Greg today.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But we will talk to Hugh today. But that's the
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Speaker 2: way I saw it last night.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's funny that we're talking about the whole–
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Speaker 4: because I think Hugh's biggest point about the– it's not
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Speaker 4: just don't turn the ball over. It's the process of
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Speaker 4: thinking that as a quarterback.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Of you can't just go into the game thinking, oh,
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Speaker 4: I just can't turn the ball over. That's all I'm
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Speaker 4: thinking about right now. Because honestly, that's what Bo Nix
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Speaker 4: looked like last night. And that's what it comes out to.
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Speaker 4: That's the result of that, right? And yes, I agree
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Speaker 4: with that. The process needs to be, hey, I need
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Speaker 4: to play aggressively, throw the ball down the field, and
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Speaker 4: throw the ball into tight windows where we don't, there
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Speaker 4: could be a question mark. But in my head, I'm like,
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Speaker 4: I got to trust my receiver. I got to trust
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Speaker 4: where I'm throwing and trust my read. And I agree
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Speaker 4: with all of that process. But that process needs to
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Speaker 4: slightly alter at certain points in the game.
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Speaker 2: Because the two times... Well, that's just it. He did
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Speaker 2: not turn the ball over the entire game.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: And this speaks to what Hugh said about we can't
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Speaker 3: make this all about, Sam, don't turn the ball over.
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Speaker 3: because at the moment when we didn't need him to
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Speaker 3: turn the ball over is when he turned the ball over.
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Speaker 2: And I think maybe it was in his head, just
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Speaker 2: don't turn the ball over, just don't turn the ball over,
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Speaker 2: just don't turn the ball over.
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Speaker 3: Who can be successful that way? So this is one
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Speaker 3: of those instances where we've had a little bit of
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Speaker 3: a debate with our two regular football experts, our insider
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Speaker 3: and then our expert. And I think they both actually
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Speaker 3: are coming out Correct. I mean, clearly Greg was right.
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Speaker 3: This is one of those games where if you don't
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Speaker 3: make bad turnovers, I don't see how Denver can move
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Speaker 3: the ball on you consistently enough to put enough points up.
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Speaker 2: To beat you. That is true.
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Speaker 3: We lost the game because Sam Darnold turned the ball
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Speaker 3: over late in the contest.
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Speaker 6: Period.
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Speaker 2: End of story. So from that standpoint, dead on, dead
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Speaker 2: on analysis. But I also think Hugh is.
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Speaker 3: Right because Hugh's statement is, we don't want our quarterback
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Speaker 3: playing scared that he's going to turn the ball over.
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Speaker 3: We did not have that a year ago and won
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: I agree.
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Speaker 3: But we, in the last two weeks, have had that.
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Speaker 3: And he's played terribly. When he came back from the injury...
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Speaker 3: You know, first time with a new offensive coordinator. Didn't
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Speaker 3: play in the preseason. Had been injured. First two games,
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Speaker 3: he made a couple bad turnovers, without question. But he
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Speaker 3: played the position well. That Commander's game, we were one
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Speaker 3: of the better offenses ranked by PFF and the entire
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Speaker 3: National Football League that week.
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Speaker 2: But we still lost the game.
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Speaker 3: We were also one of the best defenses in the
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Speaker 3: National Football League that week.
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Speaker 2: And we still lost the game somehow. It was an anomaly.
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Speaker 2: And so.
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Speaker 2: We're not getting even the version of Sam that we
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Speaker 2: got two weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: And maybe it is, maybe he is getting hammered. Maybe
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Speaker 3: it is a different offense. Maybe it's Brian Flory and
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Speaker 3: not Clint Kubiak. Who's like, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you did it again. But make no
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Speaker 3: mistake about it. I mean, his mistakes were the reason
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Speaker 3: that the Seahawks lost last night. There were other things
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Speaker 3: that certainly can be criticized.
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Speaker 2: Yes, there was.
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Speaker 3: Hell, I even wrote for the first time in two
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Speaker 3: and a half years, that was S-H blank T defense
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Speaker 3: down on my notes on a early touchdown drive by
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Speaker 3: the Broncos where they were not doing anything of note
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Speaker 3: that was interesting except for the fact that they just
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Speaker 3: kept getting first downs. So even that, even as spectacular
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Speaker 3: as they were defensively in the second half, there were
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Speaker 3: things to criticize about the defense last night.
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Speaker 2: A missed field goal?
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 4: That could have changed things from Jason Myers. Obviously, the
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Speaker 4: Rashid Shahid fumble gets overlooked because it was the first turnover.
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Speaker 4: But that's a huge moment in the game as well.
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Speaker 2: Agreed. Just so just there was a.
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Speaker 4: Lot to the offensive line was as bad as I've
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Speaker 4: seen it since Mike McDonald took over.
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Speaker 2: Donald was harassed. Yes.
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Speaker 3: We think about how good we played defensively last night
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Speaker 3: in the big picture. Four quarterback hits on Bo Nix. Now,
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Speaker 3: part of that was he was playing the position terrified.
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Speaker 3: He was pooping in his.
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Speaker 2: One second. He was pooping in his Oregon panties. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So we couldn't get to him because he was bailing
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Speaker 3: out on plays immediately. But Sam got hit 17 times
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Speaker 3: last night.
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Speaker 2: Including... That rib shot at the end where he just
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Speaker 2: took it. Yeah, he did.
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Speaker 3: He saw the guy coming. He's like, I got to
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Speaker 3: try to get this. And he got it to Barner somehow.
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Speaker 3: That could have been an interception. He could have thrown five,
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Speaker 3: six interceptions last night. He's just not playing the position
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Speaker 3: confidently at this stage. And that's the concerning part. To
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Speaker 3: go back to your original point, that's what you like, okay,
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Speaker 3: now I am starting to get a little worried. If
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Speaker 3: you're starting to get a little worried, that's what you
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Speaker 3: need to be worried about. we're going to get healthier
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Speaker 3: at running back.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think the offensive line faced a really good defensive
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Speaker 3: opponent last night. But the fact that we couldn't take
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Speaker 3: advantage aggressively of a secondary that was down three starters last.
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Speaker 2: Night, I mean, those were backups. Yes, they were.
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Speaker 3: Picking off passes and knocking them away from our receivers.
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Speaker 3: So we've got a Sam Darnold issue. There's no question
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Speaker 3: about it.
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Speaker 2: Should we bench him?
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Speaker 3: No. That's my answer, and I don't even have to
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Speaker 3: hesitate about it. Drew Locke was given three chances as
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Speaker 3: a professional to prove he should be a starting quarterback
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Speaker 3: in this league, and he failed at every single one
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Speaker 3: of them.
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Speaker 2: And this offseason, Drew Locke could have.
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Speaker 3: Been signed by any team in the National Football League
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Speaker 3: to be their starting quarterback.
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Speaker 2: Or backup. Or backup, but could have been the starting
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Speaker 2: quarterback for any team out there.
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Speaker 3: And there are a lot of teams with bad quarterback situations,
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Speaker 3: and no one wanted him. He played really, really well
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Speaker 3: in those first two games. And I'm glad he's on
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Speaker 3: our football team. I think we've got not just one
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Speaker 3: of the better, one of the best backup quarterbacks in
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Speaker 3: the National Football League.
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Speaker 5: Agreed.
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Speaker 3: But when he was given a third opportunity to try
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Speaker 3: to prove he can be a starting quarterback, he failed
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Speaker 3: miserably as a New York Giant. When Sam Darnold was
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Speaker 3: given a third opportunity to be a starting quarterback, he
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Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: So, no, I am not changing quarterbacks at this point,
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Speaker 3: but we do have to have a better performance out
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Speaker 3: of 14. We got to have a more confident performance
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Speaker 3: out of 14 because he lost the team the game
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Speaker 3: last night.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's time for a quarterback change, but
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Speaker 4: I won't scoff at someone who does.
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Speaker 2: I'll put it that way.
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Speaker 4: It's worth the conversation, but I don't think it's time.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's on tap for the
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Speaker 2: rest of the show.
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Speaker 2: All right, 17-14, the final score.
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Speaker 3: The Seahawks are 3-3 and will be.
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Speaker 2: At risk of being under.
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Speaker 3: 500 when they host the Kansas City Chiefs next Sunday night.
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Speaker 3: Monday morning quarterback comes your way on a Friday. We
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Speaker 3: will not have Greg Bell today. He is going to
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Speaker 3: be traveling back from Denver. So instead, first time we're
18:36
Speaker 3: having him on the show, and I'm very excited about it.
18:38
Speaker 3: Andrew Destin, who's the new Michael Sean Dugar at The Athletic,
18:42
Speaker 3: covering the Seahawks for The Athletic. So we get to
18:45
Speaker 3: chat with him for the very first time on this show.
18:47
Speaker 3: So he'll sub for Greg today at 7.05. uh, this morning,
18:52
Speaker 3: NFL week, number six, Houston and Jacksonville might be the
18:55
Speaker 3: best Sunday game that we have. And you're going to
18:58
Speaker 3: have to get up early to watch it. Cause it's
18:59
Speaker 3: in London again. So a six 30 start there. Um,
19:03
Speaker 3: the rest of the schedule, not very impressive. Carolina at
19:05
Speaker 3: Philadelphia is at least interesting. Uh, maybe the most interesting
19:09
Speaker 3: early game on Sunday with Philadelphia now without Jalen hurts.
19:13
Speaker 3: So they're without their starting quarterback, starting running best running back,
19:17
Speaker 3: best receiver, best offensive lineman. I mean, who's had more
19:22
Speaker 3: things thrown in their way than the Philadelphia Eagles so
19:24
Speaker 3: far this year? So they'll host the Carolina Panthers. Chargers
19:28
Speaker 3: at Chiefs maybe is the best late just because of
19:31
Speaker 3: the curiosity as to whether or not the Chargers will
19:34
Speaker 3: ever win a football game. Sunday night will be Dallas
19:36
Speaker 3: at Green Bay. College football week number seven is here.
19:39
Speaker 3: Number four, Ohio State. And number five, Indiana will meet
19:43
Speaker 3: in the Big Ten Conference. No doubt the best game.
19:46
Speaker 3: of the weekend, and it will kick off at 9 a.m.
19:49
Speaker 2: It's the big night. game this week. And so that's
19:53
Speaker 2: your biggie. And it's going to happen early.
19:56
Speaker 3: But you also have 16 Mississippi State versus 22 LSU.
19:59
Speaker 2: Go Mississippi State.
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 3: 6 Alabama versus 14 Tennessee. 13 Mizzou versus 9 Ole Miss.
20:05
Speaker 3: 2 Notre Dame versus 10 BYU. 18 Oklahoma State versus
20:10
Speaker 3: 20 Tennessee. Houston so that's a hell of a lineup
20:13
Speaker 3: Huskies will be at Purdue tonight that's right it is
20:16
Speaker 3: game night for the dogs who desperately need a victory
20:21
Speaker 3: on the road we'll spend a little bit of time
20:23
Speaker 3: on it during the course of our show today college
20:25
Speaker 3: football playoff expansion it is going to happen I do
20:29
Speaker 3: have to comment on this I don't have time now
20:31
Speaker 3: we will get to it later on in the program
20:33
Speaker 3: but The.
20:34
Speaker 2: Kraken got a point out of the Tampa Bay Lightning.
20:36
Speaker 2: Massive point. Kind of feels like a victory. It does.
20:39
Speaker 3: So 4-3, Tampa Bay wins over the Kraken last night
20:42
Speaker 3: to snap their three-game winning streak, but they still got
20:45
Speaker 3: a point, and this has been... officially a very successful
20:49
Speaker 3: road trip for the Kraken. They'll play at Florida against
20:52
Speaker 3: an even better team tomorrow, 3 o'clock start time tomorrow
20:56
Speaker 3: for the Kraken and the Panthers. Sounders will be home
21:00
Speaker 3: against Montreal tomorrow night at 7.30. The WNBA playoffs start tomorrow,
21:05
Speaker 3: or finals, I should say, start tomorrow, and we are
21:08
Speaker 3: four days away from the NBA season, and I hope
21:10
Speaker 3: we have, Anders and I, a little bit of time
21:12
Speaker 3: to discuss this The Milwaukee Brewers gloriously swept.
21:16
Speaker 2: Let's go, baby. The Los Angeles Dodgers. Oh, my gosh.
21:21
Speaker 2: They were up.
21:22
Speaker 3: If you watched only the football game, Dodgers were up 4-0.
21:26
Speaker 3: Shohei had hit a home run, and everybody was sure
21:30
Speaker 3: that the tide had turned. And they're not dead. And
21:32
Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Brewers just kept battling back and back and back.
21:37
Speaker 3: And there was a moment where they showed the faces
21:40
Speaker 3: in the Dodgers dugout, and they had quit. It was
21:43
Speaker 3: like the fifth, sixth inning, and they had, including their manager,
21:47
Speaker 3: there was just this look on Dave Roberts' face of like,
21:49
Speaker 3: we're done.
21:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, can't beat this team. So good. I love it.
21:56
Speaker 2: Go Brew Crew. Go Brew Crew.
21:58
Speaker 3: Cleveland, Tampa Bay, they will play game four tonight in
22:02
Speaker 3: Ohio at 5 o'clock. All right, we're going to hear
22:04
Speaker 3: early from Mike McDonald today. Schedule gets rearranged. after a
22:09
Speaker 3: thursday night game but we want to hear plenty from
22:12
Speaker 3: coach mcdonald so that's next on sports radio 93.3 kjrfm
22:16
Speaker 3: yeah um and so yeah you can see it a
22:19
Speaker 3: little bit he's uh he's searching for answers and and
22:22
Speaker 3: also searching for how do i comport myself publicly uh
22:27
Speaker 3: when i am so frustrated uh with the way my
22:30
Speaker 3: team's playing football.
22:31
Speaker 4: Well and you know that The kind of way he's acting,
22:35
Speaker 4: but the way that the type of press conferences that
22:37
Speaker 4: he's giving is giving me vibes of a guy that
22:39
Speaker 4: just shoot out his team for the second straight week.
22:43
Speaker 4: And then he has to come out and talk to
22:45
Speaker 4: the media. And it's like, man, I just screamed at them,
22:48
Speaker 4: but I have to somewhat change my tone outwardly.
22:53
Speaker 2: Publicly, I should say. Or he wanted to scream at them. Yeah, maybe.
22:56
Speaker 2: Didn't scream at them. That kind of. And is bottling
22:59
Speaker 2: up all those frustrations.
23:00
Speaker 3: Anyone that's ever been in a relationship knows what that's like. Yeah.
23:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
23:07
Speaker 4: Right now, the Seahawks are Mike McDonald's. Tough relationship. Yeah, exactly.
23:14
Speaker 2: He's not thinking about breaking up or anything.
23:17
Speaker 3: But he's like, you know, maybe we need.
23:19
Speaker 2: A little time apart right now. I'm going to go
23:21
Speaker 2: hang out with buddies this week. Yeah.
23:24
Speaker 3: Tonight.
23:25
Speaker 2: Some guy time.
23:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
23:26
Speaker 2: You hang out with your girlfriends. And then let's meet
23:29
Speaker 2: with a better attitude. I need to cool down. Yeah.
23:33
Speaker 2: But I will say this.
23:34
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he's three and three, and it's
23:36
Speaker 3: not what any of us really expected this year. But
23:40
Speaker 3: I think the genius of Mike McDonald was again on
23:42
Speaker 3: full display. And this is something that is happening every game. Hell,
23:47
Speaker 3: it happened in the Cardinals game. You get till halftime
23:51
Speaker 3: to score points on us. And then once I have
23:56
Speaker 3: 15 minutes... And that was a really short halftime, by
23:59
Speaker 3: the way. Prime Video really does not... they didn't break
24:02
Speaker 3: at the two minute drill or the two minute break.
24:05
Speaker 3: And they did the halftime. I mean, I just made
24:07
Speaker 3: like a bowl of rice.
24:08
Speaker 2: I love it.
24:09
Speaker 3: And by the time I was done with my bowl
24:10
Speaker 3: of rice, I came back and it was second half already.
24:13
Speaker 2: I love it. Uh, so he used, he uses that halftime.
24:16
Speaker 3: Like I got 15 minutes of extended time with you
24:19
Speaker 3: right now.
24:19
Speaker 2: We're going to fix everything defensively, defensively. And they did.
24:23
Speaker 2: I mean, the Broncos had.
24:26
Speaker 3: 124 yards of total offense at the 515 mark of
24:31
Speaker 3: the second quarter, which still isn't great.
24:34
Speaker 2: I mean, that's still good defense.
24:35
Speaker 5: Yeah.
24:37
Speaker 2: They had 44 yards the rest of the game. And
24:41
Speaker 2: that was with an overtime.
24:42
Speaker 3: Yeah. So three quarters, 44 yards. In three quarters, and
24:50
Speaker 3: you still lost the game. So when Mike McDonald, and
24:54
Speaker 3: I keep bringing this up, says, I hate it, early games,
24:56
Speaker 3: that is such a window into his soul. And we didn't,
25:02
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, the Seahawks defensively did
25:04
Speaker 3: not struggle in the first half of games because he
25:07
Speaker 3: had more film on the other team. So you were
25:10
Speaker 3: getting four hours of slobber knocker defense. four quarters, I
25:15
Speaker 3: should say, of slobber knocker defense by the end of
25:17
Speaker 3: the season. But if you remember back to the beginning, it,
25:22
Speaker 3: He has to see what the other team's trying to
25:24
Speaker 3: do against him. And then he makes adjustments on the fly.
25:27
Speaker 3: And then by the time you come out to halftime,
25:29
Speaker 3: you can forget about it. You're just not going to
25:31
Speaker 3: move the football on this defense. And that happened again
25:33
Speaker 3: last night. Even the second touchdown drive should not have happened.
25:36
Speaker 3: Byron Murphy had a face mask that extended a third
25:39
Speaker 3: and ten. And I don't even know if it should
25:41
Speaker 3: have been called because it looked like he touched the
25:44
Speaker 3: face mask and let go immediately.
25:46
Speaker 2: And yet he got called.
25:47
Speaker 3: Ernest Jones had a face mask later in the drive
25:49
Speaker 3: that was far more egregious.
25:51
Speaker 2: Than that one.
25:52
Speaker 3: And so the defense, I thought, did its job. Problem
25:56
Speaker 3: is a quarterback making two horrible turnovers late in the game.
26:00
Speaker 3: Here's coach Mike on the mic.
26:03
Speaker 6: I think he's trying to throw a whole shot and
26:04
Speaker 6: cover two. And we'll look at what they're playing and
26:09
Speaker 6: how they made the play.
26:10
Speaker 2: But we have to.
26:12
Speaker 6: Take care of the ball. Sam knows that. You know,
26:16
Speaker 6: he told the team that, you know.
26:20
Speaker 4: He doesn't even finish. The funny thing is, if you
26:23
Speaker 4: listen to the whole clip, he's kind of stumbling. I
26:26
Speaker 4: don't know what else to say. You've got to take
26:29
Speaker 4: care of the ball. He's really trying not to throw
26:31
Speaker 4: his guy under the bus at this point.
26:33
Speaker 3: I think he's going to stand by him. I think that, look,
26:38
Speaker 3: I don't have any defense for those two interceptions.
26:40
Speaker 2: None.
26:41
Speaker 3: We'll see if Hugh does. See if Hugh saw something differently.
26:45
Speaker 3: I'm not an expert, so from my point of view...
26:48
Speaker 3: all on Sam, and I thought he threw both of
26:51
Speaker 3: those balls scared and left him short. But he does
26:55
Speaker 3: have a little bit of reason for being maybe a
26:58
Speaker 3: little gun-shy last night because he was harassed.
27:00
Speaker 2: The whole damn game.
27:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Mike mentioned this multiple times. I watched the
27:04
Speaker 4: press conference right after the game. Unprompted, at least three
27:08
Speaker 4: different times, he said, our quarterback is getting hit too much.
27:11
Speaker 4: Our quarterback is getting hit too much. Our quarterback is
27:13
Speaker 4: getting hit too much. When talking about other aspects of
27:15
Speaker 4: the game.
27:16
Speaker 2: 17 of them versus four.
27:17
Speaker 3: We only got Nick's four times 17 hits on Sam
27:21
Speaker 3: last night.
27:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I mean, that's obviously something that... Mike McDonald
27:26
Speaker 4: thinks is a big issue at this point in time.
27:28
Speaker 4: The right side of the line looks terrible. Christian Haynes
27:30
Speaker 4: and Bo Stevens. I never thought I'd see the day
27:33
Speaker 4: where we'd miss Anthony Bradford, but that day is here.
27:36
Speaker 4: It is here right now. Abe Lucas looks like he's
27:38
Speaker 4: regressed from last year as well.
27:40
Speaker 2: I just, I don't know, man.
27:42
Speaker 4: That's obviously going to play into a guy that's not
27:45
Speaker 4: used to getting out of the pocket very much. Kirk
27:47
Speaker 4: Herbstreit mentioned this multiple times. Sam Donald's type of quarterback,
27:50
Speaker 4: he's a timing quarterback. He takes two steps, one hitch, boom,
27:53
Speaker 4: he's throwing, right? He's not a guy to roll out
27:56
Speaker 4: and kind of do things off script very much, and
27:58
Speaker 4: you saw what that happens because that was that second interception.
28:01
Speaker 4: He's good at avoiding the rush in the pocket, but
28:04
Speaker 4: he's not a type of guy to get outside the
28:05
Speaker 4: pocket and make a bunch of plays.
28:07
Speaker 2: I think he's capable. He is capable. I'd like to
28:09
Speaker 2: see him run more, frankly. I mean, he can run
28:11
Speaker 2: a little bit. I agree. He had a big carry
28:13
Speaker 2: last night, but.
28:15
Speaker 3: There was certainly some inconsistencies with how confident he was
28:20
Speaker 3: with his throws last night.
28:22
Speaker 2: Big picturing it at 3-3. Mike was not a man
28:26
Speaker 2: of many words last night in his press conference, but
28:29
Speaker 2: he spelled it out.
28:30
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're going to look at everything. As coaches, you
28:32
Speaker 6: watch the tape and you evaluate the execution. There's numbers involved.
28:37
Speaker 6: There's things that we can gain information that might not
28:41
Speaker 6: be to the naked eye. We're going to go down
28:44
Speaker 6: all those avenues and we'll see what comes out of it.
28:48
Speaker 6: I'm probably thinking a lot of the same things you
28:49
Speaker 6: guys are thinking. It's just a matter of backing it
28:51
Speaker 6: up and making sure we're going down the right path
28:54
Speaker 6: and finding the right solutions.
28:55
Speaker 5: I like that.
28:56
Speaker 6: Yeah.
28:58
Speaker 2: Yeah. What are we thinking?
29:00
Speaker 3: Quarterback can't make those turnovers when the defense is handing
29:04
Speaker 3: you a victory. Um, running back room played pretty well
29:09
Speaker 3: considering their limitations that they have. I mean, that's your,
29:13
Speaker 3: that's your fourth and third, fourth, fifth string running backs
29:16
Speaker 3: that you have on a running back room that was
29:18
Speaker 3: questioned to begin with. Yeah.
29:20
Speaker 2: Um, Don't really have a definitive number two receiver. The
29:27
Speaker 2: offensive line, as you said, did not play well last night.
29:31
Speaker 2: And I actually wrote down nasty.
29:33
Speaker 3: Words about the defense, the way that they played that
29:35
Speaker 3: first touchdown drive by the Broncos.
29:37
Speaker 2: And I don't remember the last time I wrote down nasty.
29:40
Speaker 2: words about our defense. Yeah, it happened twice in a row.
29:42
Speaker 2: Two long drives against them, which is rare. Yeah.
29:44
Speaker 3: Myers missed a kick. Dixon had a terrible punt. Terrible punt?
29:48
Speaker 2: What was that?
29:49
Speaker 1: Yeah.
29:50
Speaker 2: Like a 20-yard punt? So a lot went wrong, and
29:53
Speaker 2: you still had a chance to win the game. It
29:55
Speaker 2: feels like we say that every week.
29:56
Speaker 3: And you lose it 17-14 in overtime. We will chat
30:00
Speaker 3: with Hugh, Monday morning quarterback, starting at 8 o'clock. Andrew
30:03
Speaker 3: Destin is going to join us, filling in for Greg
30:05
Speaker 3: Bell today. He's the new beat writer for the Seahawks
30:08
Speaker 3: for the athletic. Greg's going to be in the air.
30:11
Speaker 3: So we'll pinch hit today with Andrew. Looking forward to it, actually.
30:15
Speaker 3: Our first time we've had him on the show.
30:16
Speaker 2: Coming up next, though, we do this every Friday.
30:19
Speaker 3: And, yes, most of the show, the very large portion
30:23
Speaker 3: of the show, is reacting to the Seahawks' loss.
30:26
Speaker 2: But it is game day. for the Huskies as well.
30:29
Speaker 2: And so every Friday.
30:31
Speaker 3: In case you missed it, we replay a little bit
30:33
Speaker 3: from Rick Neuheisel, our Tuesday conversation, and we'll do it
30:36
Speaker 3: again today and we'll do it next.
30:38
Speaker 2: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Hey, great morning to you all.
30:56
Speaker 2: Chuck in the Mornings here on this Football Friday. Yeah,
30:59
Speaker 2: we don't know a lot of good stuff to talk
31:01
Speaker 2: about here today. A loss last night to the Denver
31:03
Speaker 2: Broncos on Thursday night. Football 17-14 in overtime. We'll talk
31:08
Speaker 2: to you, Millen, about it.
31:09
Speaker 3: Coming up at 8 o'clock till 9.40. Our Monday morning
31:12
Speaker 3: quarterback session on a Friday, of course, will take place.
31:16
Speaker 3: Andrew Destin, the new Michael Sean Dugar at the Athletic,
31:21
Speaker 3: is going to fill in for Greg, who is traveling
31:23
Speaker 3: right now at 7.05. But it is also game night
31:27
Speaker 3: for the Washington Huskies. There'll be an action in Purdue
31:31
Speaker 3: to take on the Fighting Cliff Avrils this evening. You
31:33
Speaker 3: can hear it right here at Sports Radio 93.3 KJR-FM.
31:37
Speaker 3: Rick Neuheisel is our college football insider slash expert.
31:40
Speaker 2: Knows a little bit about Dawgs football.
31:42
Speaker 3: And he joins us every Tuesday at nine o'clock and
31:44
Speaker 3: every Friday I replay some of that conversation. And we
31:47
Speaker 3: usually do replay for you his comments on the Huskies.
31:52
Speaker 3: And I just simply asked him to get the conversation
31:55
Speaker 3: started to tell us about the state of Washington Huskies
31:59
Speaker 3: football as he sees it.
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Speaker 5: Listen, DeMond is still a heck of a player, but
32:03
Speaker 5: DeMond will benefit by watching that film and not the
32:07
Speaker 5: film that he played in, but the juxtaposition of when
32:11
Speaker 5: Brown went into the game. Isaiah Brown went back and
32:14
Speaker 5: threw the ball almost to the first choice every time.
32:17
Speaker 5: And in so doing, lit up the statistics.
32:20
Speaker 1: What was he?
32:20
Speaker 5: 28 of 39 for 251. Three touchdowns. Three touchdowns. You
32:25
Speaker 5: just go back and take what they give you and
32:27
Speaker 5: you put it on the money where they can make
32:30
Speaker 5: a play. Too often, DeMond is going back and then
32:33
Speaker 5: trying to climb back in the pocket, whether it be
32:35
Speaker 5: his inability to see because of his height or because
32:39
Speaker 5: he's trying to play backyard football and be a hero.
32:42
Speaker 5: You just take what they give you. And I still
32:44
Speaker 5: think now Washington cannot survive by having minus three yards rushing.
32:49
Speaker 5: That's never going to be a recipe for success. And
32:53
Speaker 5: falling behind 27 and nothing is never going to work either.
32:56
Speaker 5: But they are on to something. I wouldn't shock me
32:59
Speaker 5: that Elijah Brown gets the start this week and they'll
33:02
Speaker 5: pick up where they left off. But they could use
33:05
Speaker 5: a little Iowa esque. you know, thinking as well. And
33:09
Speaker 5: if they'll, and if they'll do that and get back
33:12
Speaker 5: to running the football and having a guy get it
33:14
Speaker 5: out of their hands on time, maybe they can go
33:17
Speaker 5: into Purdue and, and get it done against a team
33:20
Speaker 5: that's pretty hot right now. They, Purdue, Iowa, Minnesota last week,
33:25
Speaker 5: they ran for over 300 and held Minnesota to less
33:29
Speaker 5: than 50 yards rushing.
33:30
Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah, and that's real, you think?
33:33
Speaker 3: I mean, because here I thought Minnesota was about ready
33:37
Speaker 3: to make a statement this year, and all of a sudden,
33:39
Speaker 3: Purdue just slaps them down. Egypt boy, 195 rushing yards
33:44
Speaker 3: on Saturday.
33:45
Speaker 5: This is the old adage of, you know, you get
33:48
Speaker 5: a little too high. There was a euphoria in Minnesota
33:51
Speaker 5: by capturing the little brown jug with their victory over
33:55
Speaker 5: Michigan for the first time since the late 70s. And
33:59
Speaker 5: they looked at Purdue and said, well, Purdue can't beat us.
34:02
Speaker 5: And this is what happens to you when you think
34:04
Speaker 5: that this is a I mean, you saw Minnesota. They
34:08
Speaker 5: came into Washington and punched the Huskies in the mouth.
34:14
Speaker 5: So this is going to be a great challenge for Washington.
34:18
Speaker 5: But I think they go in there with a little
34:20
Speaker 5: different mindset, especially if DeMond is not playing, that they're
34:24
Speaker 5: going to run the ball, be physical, and get the
34:27
Speaker 5: ball out of their hands. They're not going backwards. And
34:29
Speaker 5: if that's the case, this will be a fourth-quarter game.
34:32
Speaker 3: Talking college football with Rick Neuheisel, thanks to Taco Time
34:35
Speaker 3: and to, of course, Coach Neuheisel as well, every Tuesday
34:39
Speaker 3: at 9 o'clock. And I got one more thing to
34:41
Speaker 3: say about last week, and that will transition us into
34:44
Speaker 3: the unbelievable schedule on Saturday that we're going to get
34:48
Speaker 3: to entertain and sample. But you were right. I mean,
34:54
Speaker 3: Indiana did win, but they didn't, you know what, all
34:57
Speaker 3: over their.
34:57
Speaker 2: Corn in Nebraska on Saturday. I have to confess. Yeah.
35:03
Speaker 5: Listen, I had Nebraska. I had Nebraska in this game.
35:07
Speaker 5: I thought it would be the end of the 30-game
35:10
Speaker 5: losing streak. Instead, it is now extended to 31 games
35:14
Speaker 5: against ranked opponent. They fall and don't get it done.
35:18
Speaker 5: But Nebraska played their tails off. Indiana still, to me,
35:22
Speaker 5: feels vulnerable. I like Ohio State in this matchup. Maybe
35:27
Speaker 5: I'm giving the Buckeyes too much credit. There's some concern
35:30
Speaker 5: with the health of their offensive line. And Indiana will
35:35
Speaker 5: be a different team in front of their home crowd.
35:37
Speaker 5: But I still think I've seen enough vulnerability in games
35:41
Speaker 5: against both Nebraska and Northwestern that I like the Buckeyes.
35:45
Speaker 3: Coach Neuheisel, if you want to hear the entire conversation,
35:47
Speaker 3: do so on our podcast, 93.3 KJR.com. A little more
35:50
Speaker 3: time on some college football later in the show, but
35:53
Speaker 3: you know what the primary topic is going to be today.
35:56
Speaker 2: We'll chat with.
35:57
Speaker 3: Andrew Destin next from The Athletic. Also your headline, Sports
36:00
Speaker 3: Radio 93.3 KJR FM.