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Hour Two | Saints Trade Talk, Eye in the Sky & Chris Olave’s WR1 Statement · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into off the bench presented by all-star toyota oh
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  Speaker 1: town with jacob hester.
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  Speaker 2: And terrifying and terrible live from the.
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  Speaker 3: Haunted raising canes.
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  Speaker 1: Studio here's jacob hester and.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTV.
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  Speaker 5: Again, if you do want a breakdown of LSU's game
• 1:03
  Speaker 5: last week against Texas A & M to get you
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  Speaker 5: ready for this game against McNeese... You can go check
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  Speaker 5: out Eye in the Sky with Hester and Flint on YouTube.
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  Speaker 5: That episode is out. It's an hour and 20 minutes
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  Speaker 5: of film breakdown. Offense and defense. More offense than defense,
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  Speaker 5: but a lot of good defensive plays as well in
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  Speaker 5: there with Blake Baker and the plan they had to
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  Speaker 5: stop Marcel Reese.
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  Speaker 3: And you can check that out again. See, you did
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  Speaker 3: a me there.
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  Speaker 6: You did it, Matt.
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  Speaker 5: Marcel Reese is a fullback.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You were probably teammates with him.
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  Speaker 7: I was.
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  Speaker 2: Raiders.
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  Speaker 3: Marcel Reed. I bet I did.
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  Speaker 5: You know what's funny? I bet I did that on
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  Speaker 5: the broadcast and didn't even know it.
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  Speaker 6: You probably did.
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  Speaker 3: I've done it multiple times on this show, and I
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  Speaker 3: corrected myself last week.
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  Speaker 5: You've done Marcel Reese? Yeah. Because of your teammate?
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  Speaker 2: Golly.
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  Speaker 7: Good player.
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  Speaker 5: And fullbacks love.
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  Speaker 3: High five.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, definitely the better Marcel.
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  Speaker 5: He's a good player. Marcel Reed.
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  Speaker 3: I did word association, though, last week. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: he likes to read.
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  Speaker 8: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: Was he? I guarantee.
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  Speaker 6: Couldn't read that defense.
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  Speaker 5: Got him. I bet I said it on the broadcast.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really care. I'm going to pull back the love.
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  Speaker 6: I'll say we were filming the film.
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  Speaker 3: Filming the film.
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  Speaker 8: And we were maybe an hour and 15 minutes in.
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  Speaker 8: And Matt goes, all right, let's move the defense. And
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  Speaker 8: I was like, oh, we're going to defense.
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  Speaker 6: Awesome.
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  Speaker 7: Matt's like, we're going to take a brief intermission.
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  Speaker 3: Nah, no.
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  Speaker 5: We did the first time we did.
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  Speaker 3: It was like 55 minutes of offense probably. I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: No, we were an hour in.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, relax, everybody.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. He did look at me and be like,
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  Speaker 5: you're taking medicine?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, Jake was like getting real restless over here. I
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  Speaker 9: was like, bro, come on, we're watching a film. I
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  Speaker 9: can do this for hours.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I could too, but also.
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  Speaker 3: You were a little bit antsy.
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  Speaker 5: Other shows and other commitments.
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  Speaker 3: That was new. Taking medicine. Got to stay on schedule.
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  Speaker 5: I have the same medicine you have, bud.
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  Speaker 8: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: I do have to do my guy Norv's podcast today, though.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. You've done that a couple times now, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Are you, like, weekly?
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 5: No, they've been doing it for about a year. It's
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  Speaker 5: my second time on.
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  Speaker 7: Norv Turner's got his own podcast?
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  Speaker 5: Him and his daughter, Stephanie, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then Scott, his son, who's been a longtime
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  Speaker 5: NFL coach, coordinator a couple times. Like, he's on it
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  Speaker 5: a lot as well. Oh, yeah. God, something like family something.
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  Speaker 5: I'll have to look it up.
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  Speaker 6: Anyways.
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  Speaker 9: I've got an interesting question for everybody. I don't know
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  Speaker 9: where you were going with this segment, but something popped
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  Speaker 9: in my head earlier.
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  Speaker 5: I was just trying to promote our film review.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Well, it's a fantastic film review.
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  Speaker 9: But if you want to look back, let's think about
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  Speaker 9: the Saints right now. I've been thinking about the 2025
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  Speaker 9: quarterback draft class, of course, with Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 3: You look at the top three picks.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, hell, you could look at the top six picks,
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  Speaker 9: which would be Ward, Dart, Shuck, Milrow, Dele, Gabriel, Shador.
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  Speaker 9: But of the top three, between Cam Ward, Jackson Dart,
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  Speaker 9: Tyler Shuck, if you're the Tennessee Titans or the New
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  Speaker 9: York Giants, and you were offered a straight-up trade for
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  Speaker 9: your quarterbacks and Tyler Shuck, So Cam Ward for Tyler Shuck,
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  Speaker 9: Jackson Dart for Tyler Shuck. Are you immediately making that
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  Speaker 9: decision as the other teams or not? At this point
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  Speaker 9: in their career, Jackson Dart has proven the Giants right
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  Speaker 9: with their pick, but he just can't stay healthy.
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  Speaker 5: That's the problem. And he is at his best when
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  Speaker 5: he plays that style.
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  Speaker 9: He is at his best when he plays that style.
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  Speaker 9: But they love him as a quarterback. They want him
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  Speaker 9: to be healthy, and he's been good. Cam Ward, on
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  Speaker 9: the other hand, has not been good. But is it
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  Speaker 9: his fault? I think the jury's still out if it's
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  Speaker 9: a good pick or not. We all kind of think,
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  Speaker 9: I think we all kind of hope that Cam Ward's
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  Speaker 9: really good because we like his style of play. We
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  Speaker 9: think he's got a dog mentality. He's got a really
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  Speaker 9: good skill set. But it's an interesting question to me
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  Speaker 9: because Tyler Shuck has now been the one that is
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  Speaker 9: proven the most to have, you know, sustained health for one,
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  Speaker 9: to be clutch, to have consistency week in, week out,
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  Speaker 9: albeit like maybe not the best like win-loss record in
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  Speaker 9: the world, but he's been the more consistent person and
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  Speaker 9: reliable person.
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  Speaker 3: So do you think if you were those other teams,
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  Speaker 3: you're making that trade?
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I don't spend a lot of time thinking on it. Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Cam's got a good skill set, but just look at
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  Speaker 5: the completion percentage. Look at the poise.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 9: Look at the anticipation. Would Tyler Shuck be very good
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  Speaker 9: in Tennessee? I mean, they have not surrounded Cam Ward
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  Speaker 9: with much, right?
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  Speaker 7: I liked a lot of the moves they made in
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  Speaker 7: the offseason.
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  Speaker 5: Had they not, though?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you drafted Cardinal Tate. Whatever you think about him,
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  Speaker 7: they at least tried to upgrade there. They added Wondell Robinson,
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  Speaker 7: who's coming off 1,000 yards, I think, back-to-back seasons. They
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  Speaker 7: tried to shore up the O-line as good as they could.
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  Speaker 5: Your receivers are Calvin Ridley, Cardinal Tate, Wondell Robinson.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: Gunnar Helm's a decent tight end. Tony Pollard was 1,000-yard
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  Speaker 5: back last year. Tajay Spears is a good third-down back.
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  Speaker 7: You drafted Nick Singleton from Penn State.
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  Speaker 5: Just think, Cam, the thing that he still hasn't done
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  Speaker 5: yet is throw with anticipation, and he holds on to
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  Speaker 5: the football. Now, their offensive line's not great. But right now, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'd go Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 3: I would, too.
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  Speaker 9: But it's interesting to think not too far removed from
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  Speaker 9: that draft.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 9: Cam Ward has literally started every game since he's been there.
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  Speaker 9: And I don't think that's good either. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 9: think that's a positive thing.
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  Speaker 5: Jackson Dart didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Shug didn't.
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  Speaker 5: Jackson Dart is not doing it this year. Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I just feel like from the Giants and the Titans' perspective,
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  Speaker 9: I feel like they're probably sitting there and justifying it
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  Speaker 9: in their head. We still don't really know what we
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  Speaker 9: have with Cam Ward. But the Giants are like, we
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  Speaker 9: found our guy, but is our guy ever going to
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  Speaker 9: be there consistently? Tyler Shuck's kind of like, at least
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  Speaker 9: in this, we got a short sample size at least,
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  Speaker 9: but he's proven both those things wrong. So you look
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  Speaker 9: at that draft class, he has, I think he sits
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  Speaker 9: on top of it right now as far as the
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  Speaker 9: quarterback draft class. Now you got some young guys. You
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  Speaker 9: got some young guys that haven't played yet that I
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  Speaker 9: think have, Will Howard, I think is going to be
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  Speaker 9: somebody to keep a, keep an eye out on the
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  Speaker 9: next couple of years and that system that they're in
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  Speaker 9: and learning from who he's learning from over there with
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  Speaker 9: the Steeler. So it's, we'll see, but I bring this
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  Speaker 9: up to say, I was thinking about that earlier about
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  Speaker 9: that draft class. And I think the saints for, you know,
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  Speaker 9: the couple of years between now and when drew bruise retired,
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  Speaker 9: like the, Who's it going to be? What's it going
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  Speaker 9: to be? The Derek Carr experiment? Like, you got a
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  Speaker 9: guy and you got a guy. And I know everybody
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  Speaker 9: kind of knows that. But not only did you get
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  Speaker 9: a guy in that draft class, I think you got
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  Speaker 9: the guy in that draft class in the second round.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't really think– I mean, I wouldn't spend
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  Speaker 3: a lot of time debating it.
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  Speaker 9: And for different reasons. We're sitting here in South Louisiana,
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  Speaker 9: of course. So I think we're biased. But I also
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  Speaker 9: think we're– I would think most people from coast to
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  Speaker 9: coast would have the similar opinion. And finally, people are
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  Speaker 9: talking about him.
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  Speaker 5: And they'll talk even more about him after this game
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  Speaker 5: because it's going to be primetime. This is going to
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  Speaker 5: be Monday night.
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  Speaker 3: I would love for him to show out this weekend.
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  Speaker 5: So this is, again, this is with Tyler Shuck not
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  Speaker 5: starting to start his career. But of that draft class,
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  Speaker 5: he's the leader in passing yards, passing touchdowns, completion percentage,
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  Speaker 5: yards per attempt. Those are all pretty big. Those are
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  Speaker 5: all ones that play.
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  Speaker 3: Those are those those play.
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  Speaker 5: Now, you know, give Jackson Dart his credit, too. He's
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  Speaker 5: got the highest passer rating, the lowest number of interceptions,
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  Speaker 5: rushing yards, rushing touchdowns and total touchdowns because of the
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  Speaker 5: rushing touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: He has been really good.
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  Speaker 5: But Jackson Dart's played also two more games than Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 9: And Jackson has been really good when he's been available.
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  Speaker 9: You just don't know as an organization how much is
• 9:48
  Speaker 9: he going to be available. And this last injury wasn't
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  Speaker 9: him in his playing style. It was in the pocket,
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  Speaker 9: making a throw, not doing what he normally does. He
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  Speaker 9: just got hit in the wrong spot in the knee.
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  Speaker 5: Tyler Shuck started 14 games, completed 68% of his passes, 3,301 yards,
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  Speaker 5: 18 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 93.6 quarterback rating. Cam Moore, 20 games,
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  Speaker 5: 60% completion percentage, 3,600 yards, 17 touchdowns, eight interceptions, 80
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  Speaker 5: quarterback rating. Jackson Dart, 64%, 16 games started, only 2,500
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  Speaker 5: passing yards, but does have 18 touchdowns to five interceptions.
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  Speaker 5: Shador Sanders, eight games started, 56% completion percentage, 1,400 yards,
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  Speaker 5: seven touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 68 quarterback rating. And then there's
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  Speaker 5: some other guys like Dylan Gabriel, Quinn Ewers.
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  Speaker 3: So we did it. Saints win.
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  Speaker 5: They got the best quarterback.
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  Speaker 9: I think that number's right on Cam Warts. Did you
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  Speaker 9: ask George Paul Thomas? Because he can't get a number
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  Speaker 9: or a logo right.
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  Speaker 3: Or a face. Well, the face, I don't think he's
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  Speaker 3: allowed to get that right.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: But some of them's not even a likeness.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. It's a question that I'll bring it
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  Speaker 5: up in the afternoon show. You know, obviously that's all
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  Speaker 5: 32 teams.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. And see what the people think.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What do y'all think?
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  Speaker 5: And my producers are giant fans.
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  Speaker 3: So, hey. Let's throw it out there. If you had
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  Speaker 3: to redo this, we're going to go back and we're
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  Speaker 3: going to redraft. What are y'all doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think Tyler Shago is number one overall. Very easily could.
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  Speaker 3: And he's your quarterback. So, you should feel really good
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  Speaker 3: about that.
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  Speaker 5: We got him.
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  Speaker 9: And not only is he on a rookie contract, he's
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  Speaker 9: on a second round rookie contract.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. So, you get it. You don't get that fifth-year option.
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  Speaker 3: You don't get the fifth year. It's only year two.
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  Speaker 3: We'll think about that next year.
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  Speaker 5: This is an opportunity for him on Monday night, and
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of things surrounding this game, obviously, with
• 12:03
  Speaker 5: the Saints and Falcons playing in the Dome and Hurricane
• 12:06
  Speaker 5: Katrina and when that happened, and we all remember that.
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  Speaker 5: So there's a lot of things that a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people are looking forward to in this game. So there's
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  Speaker 5: going to be high emotions, but there's going to be
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  Speaker 5: a lot of eyeballs on it as well.
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  Speaker 3: There's going to be a lot of eyeballs. And Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 5: Has a chance. There's still people out there that call
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  Speaker 5: him Tyler Show.
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  Speaker 3: They do.
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  Speaker 7: And then they say they're fans of him. They're like, oh,
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  Speaker 7: Tyler Show.
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  Speaker 5: I'll be watching a car break, and it'd be like Tyler.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how many people Monday is going to be like,
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  Speaker 3: it's showtime?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's national media that's still calling him Tyler Show.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, are you in a cave somewhere the last year?
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  Speaker 5: What are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: It's interesting, right?
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  Speaker 9: So I was looking at the viewership for Monday Night Football.
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  Speaker 9: It averages about 16 million, which is less than the
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  Speaker 9: Sunday afternoon game for Monday night.
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  Speaker 5: That's surprising.
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  Speaker 9: That's surprising to me. That was a real quick Google
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  Speaker 9: search here. Usually Google is pretty reliable, right? More than
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  Speaker 9: George Paul. More than George Paul for sure. Either way, though,
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  Speaker 9: I mean, Monday night football is Monday night football. So
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  Speaker 9: the entire country can tune into the same game.
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  Speaker 5: There's going to be corners of this country that don't
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  Speaker 5: know Tyler Shuck, or at least they don't know how
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  Speaker 5: good he's played to this point. And, again, almost completing
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  Speaker 5: 70% of his passes. So it's a big stage for him.
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  Speaker 5: It's a big stage for the Saints. It feels like
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  Speaker 5: they're much better than a 1-2 football team, but that's
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  Speaker 5: where they are. You are what your record says you are,
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  Speaker 5: I guess. And so this is an opportunity to go
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  Speaker 5: get yourself to 2-2.
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 5: Falcons will be 1-3. The Buccaneers are playing with Jalen
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: Daniels as their starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to win any games with Baker.
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 9: Would Saints fans be feeling way better right now if
• 13:55
  Speaker 9: they would have lost to the Ravens but beat the Raiders?
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  Speaker 9: Because that's the 1-2 everybody thought. Did anybody predict 2-1?
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  Speaker 5: Actually, I actually think that you can lean on that
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  Speaker 5: Ravens win.
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  Speaker 9: But I think everybody's disappointed that we're not 2-1 now.
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  Speaker 9: Even though everybody and their mama predicted 1-2. going into
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  Speaker 9: the season after the first three games, right?
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  Speaker 7: Because you felt like you stole a game, and then
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  Speaker 7: you felt like you now have one stolen from you.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: The Raiders wouldn't have won that game, though.
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  Speaker 9: But not one person predicted the Saints would be 2-1
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  Speaker 9: after three games. They're 1-2. They're right where they need
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  Speaker 9: to be. They won a game they shouldn't have, and
• 14:30
  Speaker 9: they lost the game they shouldn't have. Well, potentially, I mean,
• 14:33
  Speaker 9: the team you lost to is 3-0 right now. We'll
• 14:36
  Speaker 9: really see where they're at against the Chiefs this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: But, like, it's– I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I feel like people are a little bit more disappointed
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  Speaker 9: because you let that last one slip.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're more disappointed in.
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  Speaker 9: That than the one that they– which I agree with you, though.
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  Speaker 9: You should be more hopeful because you did. You won
• 14:53
  Speaker 9: a game you weren't supposed to against a really good
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  Speaker 9: team on the road. But let's not act like this
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  Speaker 9: record's any different than what anybody thought it would be.
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  Speaker 5: I think the Raiders are good, and I think you
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: beat a good Ravens team, and you had a chance.
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  Speaker 5: You threw the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Into the end zone with a chance to beat the
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  Speaker 3: Lions on the road.
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  Speaker 9: You had a 60-yard field goal, which 60-yard field goals
• 15:14
  Speaker 9: are getting made routinely, so you put yourself in a
• 15:17
  Speaker 9: good opportunity to win it.
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  Speaker 7: All right, we.
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  Speaker 5: Will step away. We've got more coming your way. Stay
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  Speaker 1: Tigers turn talkers.
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  Speaker 7: This is Off The Bench.
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  Speaker 2: If I fall a long way Pick me.
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  Speaker 5: Up and dust me off.
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  Speaker 8: And if I get too tired to make it.
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  Speaker 2: Give me my breath so I can walk If I
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: need some other love then Give me more than I
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: can stand When my smile gets old and faded.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Wait around, I'll smile again. Shouldn't be so complicated.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: Just hold me in them.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Or just hold me again.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Can you help me?
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I'm bent. I'm so scared.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: That I'll never get put back together.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Keep breaking me in.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: And this is how.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: Shout out Rob Thomas. Shout out Mashbox 20.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: Is he still doing stuff?
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Does Rob have to do stuff? No. Probably not.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: I mean, he doesn't have to do stuff just based
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: off of Smooth.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: Like, I know Matchbox 20 was before Smooth, but... Yeah.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: Smooth was theory Matchbox 20, you know, and then he
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: went out and did his own thing.
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: That alone probably gets him so many royalties.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: Robert Kelly Thomas is his full name.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Rob Thomas.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: What you doing over there, bud? Oh, dude, I'm... cruising
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: the internet right now.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: You on Tiger Droppings?
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Can I say what you said
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: because I thought it was pretty funny?
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So y'all know us. The only time we ever
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: go to Tiger Droppings is to make fun of ourselves
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: for people that make fun of us.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: We love it. It's what we do.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: Y'all rewind a little too much.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: So Alondra went and was saying on the film review
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: the negative comments were we rewind the play too much
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: and it's too long.
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: And sometimes you spend too long.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: On one play.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you were in a film room, like a
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: real film room, you would, you'd hate it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: And that's basically like, is it, wasn't what y'all were
• 18:56
  Speaker 8: thinking with the film review just to like tell people
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: was that you wanted it to feel like you were
• 19:01
  Speaker 8: in a film session.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: With actually, exactly. So that's exactly what it is.
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: If you want it, no offense to Brooks Austin, but
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: if you want like 60 second quick hit, like 30,
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: 15 minute video, video sure go watch brooks austin but
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: it's not going to be what it is on eye
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: in the sky.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: It's not jimbo would rewind before the ball was snapped
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: for three and a half minutes.
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah oh they'd look at how quick the o-line gets
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: out of their stat but.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Do like oh my god motion it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: Was a three-hour process yeah.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: So that's like to a longer point it's what we're
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: trying to do but i do i do find it
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: funny that you said for over half my life i've
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: been being judged on tiger trappings.
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah for sure one of the half who among
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: us right among us it's it's great I love it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: That's why. You know what? I love it, though.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I really do.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: That's why. That's why.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: Have haters, then you ain't doing it right.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Well, for sure. And it's not even about haters. It's
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: just like.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: Oh, the passion.
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: People feeling passionate enough to say stuff and have a
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: community together.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I think it's all great.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I think it's fantastic. And I do.
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: I love. I've actually watched the film of us watching film.
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: I try to take. Feedback and criticism.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: Well, that's why I went to go look.
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: Like, I usually, I don't care to go on tiger
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: droppings because people are real mean on there.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: And I don't love seeing mean stuff about myself.
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: But, like, I went to go look because I'm okay
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: with taking constructive criticism and getting feedback to give to y'all.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: You got to, for sure.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: So, like, the feedback is fine, but I just feel
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: like it was invalid feedback.
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: Well, we'd like to present the best we can. And,
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: you know, there's a lot of different content out there
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: to be consumed. And there's different types.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: This is going to be a very in-depth.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: Of not the whole game, but specific plays and not
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: always sexy plays. Right.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: It's like plays that can.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: That three-yard check down is probably the one we spent
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: the most time on. Because it's important to the offense.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: But shout out, we are going to make a change.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: So.
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: Thank you, I guess.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: For sure. Yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Our plan is to, we'll do an offense and then
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: we'll do a defense. So we'll put out two videos
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: a week. Yeah.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Break it down a little bit. Maybe three if there's
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: an intro.
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: Like, so next week we'll have Kentucky and I'd love
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: to do a little breakdown of them.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Could be a little bit of different.
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: I think that'd be more interesting than reviewing the LSU
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: McNeese game.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: We'll do some, but yeah, definitely to your point, Linger,
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: we need to put Kentucky in there. You've never seen
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: a screen.
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: Never in my life have I seen a screen drawn
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: up that way.
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: I mean, Blake Baker, he's probably losing sleep this week
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: over all those wide receiver screens he's going to see
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: next week.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: It is kind of funny that those two know each
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: other very, very well. Joe and Blake, they've been together
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: in multiple spots, Louisiana Tech and LSU, and now they're
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: going to be facing each other.
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: It does make me wonder over there in Kentucky, like,
• 21:54
  Speaker 9: how much of it is Joe's offense? And we know
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: Joe has had success. Last year, obviously, dealing with a
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: quarterback that wasn't completely healthy, and there was a lot
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: of issues. And we've certainly done our fair share of hating,
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: and rightfully so, for the product that was put on
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: the field last year.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: But he has had success in the past.
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: So it does make me wonder, like, how much of
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: it is his offense?
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: As compared to the head coach's offense.
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: Obviously, with the offense of mine, that's why he got
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: hired there, was the success that he had.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Had on offense. So, like, how much is what?
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: We'll find out. Yeah, and Will's offense at Oregon was thriving, obviously.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: And Will's a great offense of mine. And, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: his fingerprints are going to be all over, obviously, whatever
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: the offense looks like. So, we'll certainly do a breakdown
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: of Kentucky before we get to that game next week.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: Excited for that one.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Last two times LSU's gone there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Hadn't gone great.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Losses.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: 07.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Those things must have.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we were one up. 07 and what, 21?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. 21.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: I mean, that was the final nail in Orgeron's coffin
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: was that game.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: That place was rocking. I do not remember that game.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, that was Levis's final year in Kentucky. They
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: were good, too.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: They had Chris Rodriguez.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Great catch on the sideline, but then he got hurt. Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: fracture or whatever.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: He did yeah that was that was the game uh
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: chris rodriguez a running back didn't we'll let us say
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: that recently that they're not 32 quarterbacks better than him
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: yep you gotta have that confidence.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: He's with the jets right now is he yep.
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: Gino smith feeling frisky gino smith playing well he's on
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: my feeling frisky Category yesterday.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Am I amazing? He was playing for the Raiders yesterday.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Somebody in our OTB Fantasy Football League just dropped C.J.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Stroud and picked up Geno Smith. I just saw it
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: come across our phone. Was that you?
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: That was me.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Geno's been put on numbers.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Completion percentage is way up there, over 70. I think
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: he leads the NFL.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: Also picked up Khalif Raymond. Dude's the leading receiver for
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: the Bears. We all had that at the beginning of
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: the year.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: I just looked at it. Looks like I lost last
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: week by 19 points.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: You smoked Jake there.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: I think I'm like last place in our league.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: That was a funny text.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: I haven't paid attention to ours.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Smoked you. Yeah, I have. I'm usually pretty famous in
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: my leagues for not paying attention.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: I don't believe that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: But this year I'm focused.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Locked in.
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: It does help that Huck is doing fantasy for the
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: first time, and he's got to do it from my phone.
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: So he's always like, hey, can I check my lineups?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Can I see it? So it reminds me.
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, yeah, I should probably go look at
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: this thing because obviously I'm going to win. But I'm
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: not famous for doing a lot of mid-season transactions like Taylor's.
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: How many moves have you made probably? I think these
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: are actually the first two. I just made them back-to-back.
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: Your waiver claims all the time.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: I did a trade yesterday for the first time.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Did you trade Jamar?
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: No.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: No, silly.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Silly. No, why would I do that?
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: No, I got, I needed a receiver bad.
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: So I got DK Metcalf and Cortland Sutton for Roma Dunzay.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Who had to go. I had to get rid of him.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he struggled.
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: I had Waller and Juwan Johnson, so I got rid
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: of Waller. And then I needed Kyle Munangai gone, too.
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: So I gave him that for DK and Sutton.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Okay. DK's going to have some games now.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: He's going to have some game.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: He's going to have some game.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: I have him in, I think, in our league. And
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: he's put up.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: He's going to do numbers.
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: He's been hit or miss.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: The way that Aaron's playing. Yeah. Aaron's playing pretty darn well.
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Pretty darn?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Pretty darn well. No reason to celebrate it. Say darn.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I'm just looking at my team right.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: I need to do some stuff on ours.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Let's do something.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: I need to do something. I think I'm like one
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: and two.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I'm two and one. Not a big deal. Got to
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: win a record.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: One and two, it's not great.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Come on, bro. Lamar Jackson looks like he's questionable.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Anyways.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: It's your fantasy football segment.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I wonder if.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: As many people do it now with the daily fantasy
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: as an option.
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: I think it's probably cut into the regular because that's
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: why I hadn't paid attention the last couple years is
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: because I've been into the daily.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: The daily's fun. Because, I mean, for, you know, three bucks,
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: you can get into a pretty good little pot.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Have I ever won any big pot?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: No.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Man, there was this one game last year, and.
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: I know a lot of people have had these, where
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: I was doing, like, the Like Sunday night or Monday night.
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: One of the big ones, right? It's like $ 10 or $ 15.
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: The winner gets a million bucks. There was a minute
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: left in the game, and I was sitting at six
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: figures on the win, the win total. And some crazy
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: play happened. I can't remember the exact, and I ended
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: up winning $ 150. Still a great return on investment, but
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: I was at six figures with a minute left.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: In the game. Were you spending it in your mind?
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I'd already spent it.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: How many cards can I buy?
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Six figures in a minute. I know.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: What happened?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Do you remember? I don't know.
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: There was a turnover and a long field goal.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: There was a turnover. I can't remember exactly, but it
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: swung pretty heavily.
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: That means that I was in six figures, but not
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: that many points.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: But then, yeah, 150.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: I'd have to take a walk after that.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: But you see him, though. You see this. You see
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: those people, like, every week.
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: They go to look at the results, and they're one
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: guy has this off-the-wall lineup that hit, and he won
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: a million dollars.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Like, why would you ever put that together? Yeah. All right,
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: we'll take a break. We've got more OTB coming your
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  Speaker 5: All right, welcome back in OTB here live from the
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  Speaker 5: Razor Cane Studio. Reminder, we'll be at Rouse's tomorrow. A
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 5: We need to have a discussion about a certain Saints player.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: And that is Chris Alave.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Good player.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Great player. Because there seems to be a notion that
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: he's not a number one receiver. I don't care who
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: you drafted number eight overall. I don't care what the
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: optics of drafting a receiver number eight overall were, or
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: currently even are.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Don't care.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Chris Alave is a number one receiver. Number one receivers
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: come in all shapes and sizes and skill sets. You
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: can make the argument the best receiver in the NFL
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: right now. Is Jackson Smith in Jigba? Is he 6'5, Matt? No.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: Is he 215 pounds?
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I actually don't know.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: He's not. I'll answer that for you. When you look
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: at Chris Alave's career.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: I appreciate the honesty. I have no idea.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: He's not 215 pounds.
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: 205?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: 2022.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: 72 catches, 1,000 yards. Averages 14.5 yards per catch. All right,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: let's go to 2023. 87 catches over 1,100 yards, 13
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: yards per catch. Now, he did get injured in 2024,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: so he only played in eight games, but he was
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: on pace to have right at 1,000 yards. Let's go
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: to last year, 2025. Plays in 16 games, 100 catches
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: over 1,100 yards, nine touchdowns a year ago. You look
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: at this year, 27 catches, 375 yards, 14 yards per catch,
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: second in the NFL in receiving yards. Don't allow his
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: size or what a number one receiver in your mind
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: is supposed to look like. Chris Alave is a number
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: one receiver. He's one of the top ten receivers in
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: the National Football League. So he's for sure your number
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: one receiver. There's a reason that Chris Alave got the
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: contract that he did. Now, the injuries that Chris Alave's
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: had that people try to use as their argument, those
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: are things that are out of his control. It's not
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: like he's had hamstrings and ACL and MCL and foot
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: and ankle concussions, which is now why he wears the
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Guardian cap. He had blood clot issues, which seems like
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: he's gotten on the other side of that. I don't
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: know why. I don't know who started it. I don't
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: know why it continues on down the road. Chris Alave
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: is your number one receiver. Chris Alave around the league,
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: when you talk to coaches, is respected as a top
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: 10 guy at his position. I had a conversation with
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: the coach that won the world championship last year. And
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: we were talking about different receivers and which ones kind
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: of give issues. And we were talking about his receiver,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Jackson Smith and Jigba. And he brought up Chris Alave.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: And I didn't bring it up. He brought it up.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: He said, you know guys like JSN and Chris Alave?
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Those are the ones that are hard to cover. That's
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: the two names that he used. Mike McDonald's a pretty
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: good football coach. So I don't know why people are
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: reluctant to give themselves over to Chris Alave.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Again, don't use injuries.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: Those aren't because of his size. It wasn't because he
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: can't take a hit. No, he had a concussion issue,
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: which he's now tried to fix by changing his equipment.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: So far, so good.
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: Do you think it's red zone success? that people judge
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: a lot, the sexy plays down in the red zone, because.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: He's got 20 touchdowns in his career.
• 34:38
  Speaker 9: But the stat that's lacking this year, the only stat
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: that's lacking this year is touchdowns, and that would look towards...
• 34:44
  Speaker 9: He's got one touchdown on the year. Jackson Smith, he's got...
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: JSN's got six, but they have equal amount of targets,
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: equal amount of receptions. He's got 30 more yards than Olave,
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: but they're one and two in the NFL this year,
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: but the big different differentiator is six touchdowns to one touchdown.
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: So I think I do think people get wrapped up
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: and look, I'm guilty of it. I was guilty of
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: it this off season about talking about, you know, he's
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: not your traditional number one guy because of the highlight plays,
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: like in the red zone, like making the catches in
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: the ends. Like you just don't hadn't seen that this season,
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: but like every other, every, everything else is top of
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: the top of the line.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: It's also your scheme. It's also Tyler Shuck has six
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: touchdown passes to tight ends.
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: A hundred percent part of it as well. And I,
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: and I'm with you on that. And I'm not saying,
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: I just say, do you think that's what.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: People nationally playing devil's advocate, playing.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Devil's advocate a little bit? Because what he's shown on
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: the field is.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: He's averaging 125 yards per game.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: I was on the train, but now after what I've
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: seen this season, but I've said like, I like Olave.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: I need him to prove it. More consistently than he
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: had before.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: I think two years ago, I was right there. I
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: was right there. There was something I wanted to see.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: I just need a little more consistency from him.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: I think over this last two years, he has. Yes.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: That's what I was going to say, is that after
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: this season, he looks really good. And I have no
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: issues with.
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: Him being the wide receiver one, getting the wide receiver
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: one money. And even after Ross explained it after... They
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: gave it to him.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: I was starting to lend myself over to it.
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: But now, after what I've seen through three games, I
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: can get on the Alave train.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: I do love that he signed with the Guardian cap. Like,
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: he's like the face of the Guardian cap.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: You should be. Look, I was late getting on the
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Alave train. I think a.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: Lot of people were.
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: We were all talking about halfway through the season last year,
• 36:43
  Speaker 9: he was having to make big plays, but he didn't.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Make the game-winning play.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: The contested, like, yeah.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: Last year.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: Early in the season.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: The thing that I did a bad job of was
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: looking at the play design as well for Chris Alave.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I felt like he should have been involved in it sooner.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: There was things like they were drawing up for Rashid
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Shahid that should have been drawn up for Chris Alave.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Because he's got that ability.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: You're right. They use the tight ends a lot.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: They do.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: They're big bodies.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: I get it. I get like John Johnson played receiver
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: in college. I get him being the red zone target.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean Chris Alave is not a top receiver.
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: That's why people get too far down the rabbit hole
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: of trying to make this in their brain, what the
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: number one receiver should look like. And again, I'm guilty
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: of it as well, because like you would think that
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: he's going to be the go-to guy in all parts
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: of the field. Like when you get closer to the
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: goal line, the less part of the game plan he is,
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: or has been at least at this point of the year,
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: maybe that's, maybe that's just all about, you know, fortune
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: and the game plan, whatever. But obviously the game plan
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: is to throw it to bigger guys and, in the
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: red zone because the tight ends are getting a lot
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: of the touchdowns. So it's not– he's kind of out
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: of the game plan a little bit closer. And I
• 37:55
  Speaker 9: think what people try to, like, in their brain, build
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: this number one receiver is he's always the game plan
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: every place on the field.
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: You and I talked about this.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: Huff, how is Olave not a receiver who shouldn't get
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: top money? Just because I know who you listen to,
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: I'm telling you he's a top receiver. The coach that
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: won the goddang championship last year brought him up.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: As a guy, it's hard to stop. I'm trying to
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: really make a point here.
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: Me and Matt talked about this. I think it was
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: when you were out doing the training camp stuff. It
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: was when Drake London got his big contract. And I
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: asked you, what is the difference between Drake London and
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: Chris Alave? And we got to the point, Chris Alave
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: is just not tall enough. That's basically all we could
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: come up with. With Alave, it just seems like somebody
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: one time threw out that, oh, it's the injuries. Oh,
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: it's the contested catches. And everybody just kind of ran
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: with it. Like, yes.
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: But is it some people just running with it or
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: people just like have an opinion on a game that
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: they've watched?
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: I mean, maybe, but like, okay, with injuries. 2024, he
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: played in eight games.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Awful.
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: He was hurt all year. Sucked for him. Since then,
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: he's missed four games in three years. So, I mean,
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: outside of that one year, the injuries hadn't really been there.
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: Contested catches. Guys, this year, he's 11th in the NFL
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: in contested catch rate.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: He catches.
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: It is 50% of the contested passes that are thrown
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: his way. That's 11th in the NFL. He's ahead of
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: Jackson Smith and Jigba. He's ahead of Jamar Chase. He's
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: ahead of Parker Washington. So, like, it just seems like, like,
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: we need to move past that and, like, accept the
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: fact that Olave... a lot of a fan, but it just,
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: what else are we going to throw at him now?
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: It just feels like people are overly critical of him
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: when all he does is go out there and make plays.
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: I don't, I don't understand it. I don't. And again,
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: it's not like we weren't reluctant to give ourselves over
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: to it. We had to see it. I think we've
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: seen what he is and not what he can be, no,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: what he is and what he's going to be moving
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: forward and he deserves the contract that he got. He
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: is a top 10 receiver. Look at the analytics of
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: the last two years. He just, he is.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Numbers that Taylor just gave you.
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Conversations with coaches around the league, right? They hate having
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: to design something to try to stop him because he's
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: also an incredibly high football IQ guy. He understands how
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: to run a route. What do I mean by that?
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: He knows the speed.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: He knows the windows. He knows how to get open
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: and so look when Jordan Tyson comes back right number
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: eight overall I realize where you drafted him that's only
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: going to help Chris Alave that's only going to take
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: pressure off Chris Alave Vele's been good too I'm going
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: to give him his credit he's been good when Jordan
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: Tyson comes back just imagine what player you're going to
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: get with Chris Alave so he's a top 10 guy
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: he's your number one receiver and he's going to be
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: for a.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Long time right now playing like top five yeah.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: We'll take a break. More O2B when we come back.
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  Speaker 1: Tigers turn talkers. This is Off the Bench.
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  Speaker 7: I have the tendency of getting better.
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  Speaker 7: Welcome back in OTB. Daniel, we do not rewind on
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: this show.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: It's the other show.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: It was damn rewinds.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Who would have thought Chris Alave would get the chat going?
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: Everybody needs to calm down.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: We got 318 Slander in the chat.
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  Speaker 5: We got LP Slander. We got White Bread Slander. We
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  Speaker 5: got Tay-Tay Slander.
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  Speaker 6: I'm catching a strain there.
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  Speaker 7: I got it twice because I got LP.
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  Speaker 6: It was more of a joke.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: Daniel said, we only make fun of minorities like Alondra.
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: Are we saying this chat is spooky today?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: It is spooky season.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: We got Matt, I mean Huff in here. All caps.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Not you.
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: Since we're here trying to say we never talk about
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: how awful the refs are, that is a constant conversation
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: that we have on this show.
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: Jake suggested the idea, which is a brilliant idea, of
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: having the refs go to a press conference and answer
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: questions after the game, which they absolutely should.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: We have Mike Pereira on the NFL. I didn't know
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: how it was going to work out because I didn't
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: know how he was going to be, if he was
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  Speaker 5: just going to be like standing up for the– no,
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  Speaker 5: he does not. And I got to apologize because I
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  Speaker 5: thought he was just going to stand up for the guys.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: He does not. No?
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Respect. He doesn't hold back?
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Nope. If he thinks it's against the referees, he's been
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: pretty open about it. Like, nah, it's a bad call.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: Oh, there goes my.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: There's really no good refs out there.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: My stray. Alondra sucks, too.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: True.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: Well, at least it's two. That means we suck.
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: Y'all suck. We're all awful.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Foxhole.
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah, all refs think. But it's not their fault. It's
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: a really hard job. Some are better than others. And
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: it's okay to make mistakes.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: There's no doubt. Players make them every game. You could
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: have the best game of your life and you're going
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: to have a mistake.
• 45:02
  Speaker 9: You're going to have a lot of mistakes in the
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: best game of your life. It is not realistic to
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: think refs are going to see every little thing when
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: people are running that fast and there's 22 people on
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: the field. It's not going to see everything. You're going
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: to miss some stuff. You're going to make some bad calls,
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: some bad judgment calls. How much better has the review.
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: Like the whole process of the review got in the NFL,
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: like the fast review, like this gotten so much better.
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: No longer are they under the tent for like five
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: minutes looking at stuff. They turn those things around pretty
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: quickly and it's improved a lot. And I think it
• 45:37
  Speaker 9: improves every year. And it should be, it should help
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: the rest because what they do is, is really tough.
• 45:42
  Speaker 9: But again, there's no good refs out there. There's just
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: some that are better than others.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: I think the replay assistant too, like on ones that
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: are clear and obvious being like, Nope, Hey, Change it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: It's the best.
• 45:55
  Speaker 9: One of the better referee changes that has been put
• 45:59
  Speaker 9: into the game of football in a while.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: It's been great.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: It could be better. It could be better. It could
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: be better. Everybody's trying. And the league apologized to the Rams.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: They're like, no, that actually wasn't pass interference. You should
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: have won the game. Oh, thanks.
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: I sent y'all one.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: Cool.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: The other day that the SEC put out, what was it?
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: It was the onside kick.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: I wish more people would just risk it and do
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: onside kicks.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's fun.
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