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Crossbows shouldn't be allowed during bow season? · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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All right, folks, BDP episode 4700.
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I don't know how many episodes, but it's a good day.
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We got a couple guests. Actually, everyone here has been
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a guest on the podcast once before.
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Tove has been on the podcast. David has been on at least one
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time, twice, 2 Times Now. We got a second timer, a third
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timer, third time and then the hosts of the show.
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So what we were we were just have an interesting talk right
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before this podcast started that I kind of want to get into You
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were we were talking a little bit about string jumps and what
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do you think? It's a good topic, huh?
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It is. It really helps a lot to film
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stuff and you get the real picture of string jump and in my
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after watching it several times and watching it drop.
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Were. A spotted shot is coming in
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money right at the heart and the animal jumps and I've seen them
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being spined. I've seen that and I've seen
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them just totally being gone. I mean this shit.
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The arrow was perfect, but the animals not there anymore.
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So my conclusion doing this a little while is try to expect
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that. And of course there's, there's
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supposed to be a big difference between the alert animal that's
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looking at you versus one that is not.
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And, and I think that's true, but there's other theories on
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that. But if it's going for the heart,
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my theory is aim low. If you know it's going to be a
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lethal shot, aim way down in the pocket and it compensates
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because they'll drop and you get a little forgiveness of the drop
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and you could still hit the hearts.
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And that's, that's sort of a summary of what's going on, what
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I think. What do you think about that
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summary Big D that was kind of you two were the catalyst of
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that discussion, so. What do you think?
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I always get a kick out of those Instagram posts where they show
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the animal and then they break it down by like quadrant.
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Right. Like, yeah, ABCDEFGHD, you know
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all of that. And it's just like, I don't
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know, because as like mostly a whitetail hunter, I have never
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shot an arrow at a mule deer before.
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I, I honestly think like it's not actually on the animal.
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It's like below the animal. There should be another quadrant
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where they're, it's below their animal because I actually have
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footage of me shooting at a shooting at a buck where it's,
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it's at 3535 to 38 yards or something like that.
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So it's, it's not a, it's not a poke.
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And the, the deer is got its nose in the ground looking for
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acorns. Some, you know, anything that's
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dropped out of a tree and it's totally off guard.
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Didn't hear anything that I was doing.
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And the air arcs towards the towards the deer and around
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about 5 feet away, it just ducks right out of the way.
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So it's a, it's a tricky, tricky thing that honestly for for
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whitetail, I think it's a good idea to aim low always.
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I don't really have a lot of experience with mule deer,
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especially at the further yardages.
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But I mean, if it's going to duck out of the way at, when in
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the arrows, like 5 or 10 yards away at 35 yards, I mean, it
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really puts you in a bind about where to aim and stuff like
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that. So, you know, I, I, I don't have
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an answer on that. And I have also heard that mule
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deer do not sometimes do not drop.
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I've also seen a deer that was alert actually not drop for
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whatever reason. I don't know, it's like, I think
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a lot of times it's dependent on the animal versus A and a deer
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that has no idea that no idea that you're there and the sound
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of the shot really scares them and makes them drop and run
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away. It's a, it's a tough, it's a
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tough top topic to address because it's it, it could be a
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deer by deer basis. And you know, I, I, I don't have
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any, you know, expert opinion on it per say, but it's, it's
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definitely a problem. So I've talked to people who use
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heavy arrows. I've talked to people who use
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really light arrows. For me, that deer drops so fast
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that I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference between
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the arrow weight in terms of how fast it gets there.
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But it's a tricky topic that I'm sure that a lot of people have
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lost deer too. I mean the the deer that I have
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on video, you can see in the video the broadhead scrape its
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back and a puff of fur so. I mean, it's brutal.
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Yeah, it's, it's a, it's a brutal thing to experience, but
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it's all part of the learning process.
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And when you have one of those, it's tough not to get down about
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it, but you just got to you. You got to make a plan for your
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for your next shot, so. Yeah, no, I agree.
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I think that, you know, I think the there's really only three
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things you can address to potentially make this problem
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less. I could throw a fourth one in.
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Here's the here's what I think could help avoid string jumps #1
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quiet. Make your bow as quiet as
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possible, right? I think that's big #2 make your
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arrow as quiet as possible. So quiet veins.
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Right now I'm running the Blazers, which are really good.
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Veins are classic, but Blazers are a little loud.
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So boning made a new vein called the alpha and it's like lower
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profile, it's softer. It's supposed to fly just as
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well but be much quieter because of the design of the vein.
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It's longer and not as high. So quieter vein, quieter bow.
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I hear your point. I still think speed is going to
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help you just because the quicker you get to it, you got
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to like dude, when you go frame by frame and you see how fast
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those deer react, even if you can cut 3 feet off, you know
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what I mean? Like I think it's big.
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And then to add a last thing, it would just be not to aim for a
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miss, but like aim really low to where, you know, if you do hit
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him and he doesn't react at all, you're hitting like just above
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the, you know, just above the the rib cage diaphragm, like
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right, right above the brisket, Yeah, where you'll still kill
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him. But if he does react, you have
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that leeway. But I think if you were to
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address every single one of those things, I think that's
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going. To be the best way to.
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Mitigate or reduce string jumps. Now, the other thing that I
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think is a tricky 1 is I've heard, I don't know if there's
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like a science on this or a video study, but I've heard that
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for like whitetails specifically out of tree stands.
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And I have shot only three whitetails right out of out of
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tree stands. And I hit them all in the same
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exact place. I was aiming in the pocket.
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I hit all of them, you know, that far below the back top, top
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of the lungs, all of them, they reacted the same amount.
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And I shot them all between about 20 and 30 yards.
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I've heard that for whitetails, some guys like to shoot them at
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more like 50 because they say that the reaction is peak
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between like 20 and 40 yards. Beyond that, your bow is
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further. So it's like quieter, quieter
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and. From whatever the sound takes a
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little bit more. Your air travels faster than
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that sound maybe can get, I don't know.
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But I. Have the math a little bit.
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I think the sound would still get there before the arrow does,
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but that's still less time to react.
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Yeah, I suppose so. I don't know if that's I prefer
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to shoot stuff closer, like I like shooting stuff at 10 yards,
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you know, is what I like 20 yards.
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But I could see some logic to it.
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But if a deer were to walk by at 20, am I going to pass him and
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be like, let me wait till he goes to 50?
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Like no, I'm not going to do that, but it is an interesting
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one. Like it would be an interesting
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video study to go sit in the tree stand and shoot 5 to go on
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dope patrol. Shoot 5 dose at 20 or less.
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Or let's say let's shoot 5 dose from 30 or less and then let's
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shoot 5 from 50 or 50 or more and see if the reaction.
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Signed me up. And see if the reaction time is
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any different. Do you have a wait list for dope
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patrol or? Go to Oklahoma.
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You got to hit up Seek One or go to Oklahoma, baby.
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Yeah, but but anyway, I think it's an interesting topic.
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And my buddy Travis that filmed all my hunts in South Africa, he
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was really big on quiet veins, right.
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So he ran bonings that were not the alphas.
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They were like a longer version. So they were like probably 4
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inches long, but really soft and really low profile.
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And when him and I would shoot, I would shoot my Blazers and he
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would shoot his boating veins. I, I wish I knew the name of
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them. And it was a noticeable,
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noticeable sound difference, you know, and that's the human ears
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behind. That for a slower but a shooter
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myself, I think that would be like something I wish I had
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before even leaving in a couple weeks, like those alphas.
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Just something different to to try out to make you know,
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anything more quiet, more quick, more, you know, penetration like
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anywhere I can get, the more. Well, they have the not trying.
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They have the new Alpha and the new Altus.
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Oh yes, that that one looks good.
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Oh, I think I've been calling them atlases.
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Is it? Alt Now aren't they the.
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Not. Sure, aren't they the pretty
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much the same vein? But I think 1 is softer material
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than the other I believe. I believe it seems like softer
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would help. I think so.
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The only one with softer I've seen which everybody seems to
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say it doesn't matter like they straighten out in flight, is
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that the softer ones seem to crinkle so fast.
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I agree, you just need them against anything or you go deep
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in the target. Yep, or you can just shoot after
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shooting that arrow enough times.
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James saw it with the What were those?
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So when I shot the Silent Night bands, they were silent nights
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are supposed to be super quiet and they're supposed to be super
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light. So that hope so yeah, that's
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their like thing. But they would warp so like
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you'd look at them and they would have like weaves.
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And I never noticed any difference in shooting quality
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like group size or anything like that.
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And when I. If my mind I would just think
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it, but yeah, they do well when I Adam just fine, but they just.
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Look, when I picked Josh's brain about it and I was like, hey,
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why are these warped? And he said I had to do with
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like the speed of the bow and and this, you know, like
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temperature changing temp. But he said that it doesn't make
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a difference because the once the bow let's the arrow go, it's
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so fast that those little warps are going to get like
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straightened out by the by the air, you know.
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So he he sends kind of thought it was a nothing burger, but I
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don't know. Yeah, it's an interesting topic.
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It is, man. It's.
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Important. It's important for sure.
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I mean, more animals are wounded and not killed without question
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by string jumps more than anything else.
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I would agree. No doubt about it.
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I would agree. So yeah, I don't know.
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I thought it was a fun topic. When you guys were talking about
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it, I was like we should definitely hit it on the pod.
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I think in the Midwest it's more to do with the fact that no
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one's practiced. Yeah, that does happen a lot in
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I think. And what's the nice of it more?
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And you're allowed to. You can say what?
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A shooting happening there. He can say whatever he wants
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because he's from Ohio, so he came to he yeah, Whatever you
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got, you got it. From Florida, you got a ticket
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there he's going to get. Killed in the comments.
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I wouldn't. So bet the white tail hunters
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would be like. You know they, they know.
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They know the deal. They know even even if they even
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if they refuse to admit it, they know the deal.
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I think there's just, there's a lot more attention to weapon
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seasons in the Midwest and the East then there is in the West.
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A lot more people switch over from archery, which is only a
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month long, to rifle season. Shotgun, you know, Turkey season
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rolls around, they get the shotgun back out and then
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there's maybe a little bit of target happening in there over
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the summer. Maybe for some states it's just
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too hot for them and then they roll back into archery seas.
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Then they get the bow back out from underneath the bed.
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Well, you really want me to get killed?
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In the comments I'll talk a lot about crossbow runners.
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Geez. I have a bone to pick about
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crossbow hunters. You know I've never shot 1
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before. So here's my hot take.
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I don't really. I know that's a big thing.
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A big debate is like crossbow. I of course is crossbows aren't
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really a thing out West. Like it's more so people that
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maybe have like a medical injury that then could use a crossbow.
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Now I know out where you're at. A lot of times a crossbow season
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is during archery season. My hot take, and again I don't
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really have a any skin in the game here at all, but to me it
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makes more sense that crossbow would be in the season with like
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muzzle loader or shotgun rather than archery.
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And by a rifle season. No, not rifle, because to me a
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crossbow is more similar to like a primitive muzzle loader or a
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shotgun, not a rifle. What do they have on them for
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sights? Oh, they have oh like really
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like sites. Red dots all.
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And then, correct me if I'm wrong, Arizona I think might
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also be one of them. I only know this because I saw a
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lady up in arms about it on one of the female hunting pages.
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I follow that their state just banned the use of bipods for
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them with their crossbows. And to me, if you got a bipod
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and a red dot on your archery weapon.
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Out. Couldn't you say to say anything
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about a Garmin site though? On a compound boat, I mean a.
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Garment. A lot of states have outlawed
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that. No, not a lot.
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I mean there's some, but like, I mean.
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Do you have electronics or lighting?
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Yeah. Oh yeah, that's true.
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That's true. Yeah, good point.
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I don't know how much archery. Is considered primitive.
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Like you cannot use a light in the majority of states, you
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cannot use an electronic site. Well, they even that dot from 40
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yards away if you got something that magnifies it, I guess.
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See, that's hard to argue because a lot of people do also
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a lot of take them out for hunting season.
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But you can technically run a a clarifier and a lens.
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So like, there's a bit of magnification, but like, I don't
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know, there's just something about having like a red dot, a
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bipod, A tripod holding your weapon, like all this stuff that
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like, to me, we are taking away from the primitive nature of the
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archery season. You make you make an excellent
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point, and just to give you an idea, I thought that Ohio
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hunting regulations were pretty strict until I came out here.
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Ohio hunting regulations are actually the easiest you'll ever
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find. So archery season is from about
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September 29th, 28th, something like that, to February 2nd.
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Every day in between that gap, it doesn't matter if you're in
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gun season, it doesn't matter if you're in muzzleloader season,
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You are allowed to take a deer. You are allowed to take a deer
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in between that gap no matter the season, and that includes
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compound bows and crossbows. Here's the problem with that.
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A lot of people get a crossbow and basically they treat it like
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a gun. OK, so if you are in, if you've
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got a 4570 and you're in a basically a brush gun, you might
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be able to get away with shooting a deer in brush.
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You cannot get away with shooting a deer like that with a
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crossbow in brush because no matter what the system is,
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you're still deal, you're still dealing with an arrow.
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And, and we've all seen slow MO footage of a twig deflecting
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that arrow into oblivion. So my deal with crossbow hunters
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is they think that, oh, it's the same system as basically an
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AR15. You've still got the same safety
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functions as an AR15. So they treat that like an AR15
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or a gun. And so they think, oh, I can
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shoot this, you know, 75 yards through brush and be OK with.
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It. No, no, no, no, not sketch.
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That's not, that's not what. That's not what's going on.
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David came to just upset the audio.
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I love it. I.
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Will take I will Tayetta. Loves this me I'm on her he'll.
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Just load pins in me. I'm going.
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Oh yeah, I love it. I love it.
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I will take let him. Back.
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From the crossbow. OK, he's starting the war.
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You can you can go. Comment and blow up his page 614
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Archery on YouTube. There we go.
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Go blow him up. There we go.
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But Arizona did just restrict the crossbow regulations to
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people who actually have like a medical reason to use a
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crossbow. Like they've had reconstructive,
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reconstructive surgery on their shoulders.
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Maybe it's an 89 year old going out to hunt and like we're
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totally fine with that. But they but they relaxed the
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they relax the regulations for crossbows in Arizona.
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I don't know how long ago and basically what what ended up
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happening was when elk season, deer season would open up in a
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lot of these popular in these popular units, they would end up
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closing that week when in in reality you've got two 2 1/2
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weeks to hunt. It would be closed in five days.
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So because shrew Archers. Wouldn't have a chance to get
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any kind of season. Correct.
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Oh, correct. And it was getting out of
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control where you could just go and get a crossbow.
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And, you know, people my age were getting crossbows and I
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don't want to say lying about, you know, something, but you
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know, the, the crossbow hunters were closing the season in five,
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sometimes 3 days. And it's just it, it was, it was
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crazy. So they just push that to you're
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going to, I don't know what the regulations are now full, Full
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disclosure, but they have since upped it, upped the regulations
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to what it would take to get a crossbow tag.
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So. Like I'm I'm a say it, y'all can
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hate me. Oh boy, buckle up.
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This is not archery. Oh, Jesus.
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I am looking at some pictures right now, this dude in his
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chair, with a bipod, with a scope, with a shoulder like
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comfort. Dress.
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Correct. And to top it off.
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That looks like the Midwest too. They shoot from three like the
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minimums start from 300 to 500 feet per second.
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Averages being between 370 and 420.
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You tell me whose archery bow compound gets 420 feet a second?
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But it's and can put a scope. On it, it's a shorter, lighter
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arrow. It's a bolt.
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It's a bolt. Yeah, I know.
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That's why they. Call it so.
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I mean to be fair, Brianna with her draw length.
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Based. It's basically a few inches from
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all I mean, and I only get 250 feet a second.
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Yeah, I don't know everything about what that picture looks
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like. Looks like rifle hunting to me,
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no? No, what a what an unbelievable
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topic. I'm just stewing on this topic.
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You're going to have to can this whole video, no?
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Even not let them go. Let me extend an olive branch to
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the crossbow hunters in the Midwest, OK?
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I want to talk after this. Yep.
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So he's been stewing over. He's stewing.
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Now in Ohio, it is not unusual for deer hunters to harvest 1/2
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a million deer a year. That is like that.
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And, and honestly, in Ohio, wow, they would call that a good year
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where they need to harvest that much to keep the population
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down. Healthy, OK, yeah.
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Keep cars there, there. There have been years where all
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throughout season, whether it's archery or gun or muzzleloader,
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it's more like 350,000 and you can see that they were kind O
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DNR was kind of hoping for a little bit more.
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So that's where the crossbows come to come into play and where
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there won't be any regulations in Ohio when it comes to
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crossbows and everybody's kind of OK with it.
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I just have a personal problem with a lot of people going out
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and think that they're shooting an AR15 at a deer when it should
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be. Basically, you take the weapon
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system away, you're still shooting an arrow at something,
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and it's not a 4570 with a 500 grain projectile crashing
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through brush and with enough kinetic energy to do what it
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needs to do to get. There to the right spot.
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Yep, I like that you're throwing in the the handicapped stuff and
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the older stuff because I'm getting older.
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I don't know if you noticed that.
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None of you? No, not at all.
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I had not noticed, no, not a single bit. 6 I mean, you had
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your shirt off earlier today and I was like, that's peak dad
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injury. You look pretty good dude.
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Project. As you put me as Cheryl, well,
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that was insane. I.
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Love it. What I can see, what I can see.
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How Connie fell for you, man. Yeah.
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She was trying. She was trying to help the
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stupid. Just a big old punk of meat just
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just sitting there in this, in his, in his comfy chair.
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Yeah. Yeah, Well, I appreciate you
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throwing in the the caveat for handicapped hunters because I'm
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trying my best to keep shooting a boat.
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I'm trying, but I love archery so much that I realize, you
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know, reality, age is reality. And someday I'm going to have to
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switch to a crossbow and I probably won't go to a rifle.
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Nothing bad about that, but I'll probably switch to a crossbow.
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Or when when you got bone on bone arthritis and stuff like
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this. Reality sucks and, and I like
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that. And, and we all know Danny's a
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friend of the show and. He, he, he.
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He's in a wheelchair and he's got a he can't shoot a boat
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anymore. He gave it his best shot.
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Yeah, I saw him at a shoe and he had that wheel, he had that
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chair with the with the tracks on it.
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And I was like, I was like, hell yeah, man.
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And he just doesn't have the muscles to hold up anything.
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So he uses everything. You know, he uses a tripod, he
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uses, you know, advanced sites and we're all happy.
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Yeah, I definitely think that there's a point to where, you
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know, certain people should be allowed to use certain things or
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there should be certain seasons for it or whatnot if it's
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comparably different. And that's all fine and dandy.
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It's when you start to mix them into certain seasons.
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And like if the numbers just don't equate that, like, you
24:25
know, you're penetrating the animals with the same amount of
24:27
kinetic energy as a bow and you can shoot about the same
24:31
distances as a bow and you're using the same primitive stuff
24:34
on it as you would a bow. You know, that's what I'm like,
24:38
OK, maybe it should just be its its own season or maybe it
24:42
should be mixed in with you know, would not mix it with
24:44
muzzle loader. I mean, that's about, as you
24:47
know, the next primitive step up from well, I'm, I'm.
24:50
Actually, here's why I comped them Right.
24:53
Let's say you're doing a iron sights muzzle loader, not the
24:55
new ones that can shoot 506 hundred yards.
24:58
These guys are telling me as far as you want with the new ones.
25:00
Yeah, but a lot of states are making it to where if you're
25:03
going to hunt muzzle loader, they either have two muzzle
25:05
loader seasons, one for like the iron sights and the ones they
25:09
have different rules are how you load out.
25:10
I've never heard or the long range ones, but here's my point.
25:14
Let's say that in let's just take Ohio for example, let's say
25:17
that they only allow you to use the more primitive muzzle
25:20
loader. Let's just say for for my point
25:23
here, right, OK. So you can only use the.
25:25
More primitive muzzle loader, a shotgun or a crossbow in one
25:30
season, right? My thing is.
25:33
Each one of those weapons, I think your effective range is
25:36
relatively comparable with each one.
25:38
That's what I'm saying. So like a crossbow, I think 100
25:41
yards probably you're pretty much you're you're that's it.
25:44
That's the Max about, you know, that's a poke.
25:47
Same with the shotgun for sure. Yeah, maybe even last probably
25:51
7060. I don't know a lot about it.
25:54
And then with a muzzle loader, you're probably a primitive 1,
25:57
you're probably talking 100 is like a poke, you know what I
26:01
mean? So to me, that's why I can
26:03
understand that crossbow in with them, not with rifle.
26:06
Because with rifle, you know, you can shoot hundreds of yards
26:09
no problem. And then with a bow, you know
26:12
you're looking, 50 people might get you.
26:15
For that, you're looking 50. Or less, you know what I'm
26:18
saying? So to me, I try to look at it
26:20
based on distance. In pairing seasons with stuff
26:23
where your distance is somewhat comparable, the technology to me
26:28
I don't think really makes a difference.
26:29
I mean, sure you could have a red dot, but you still got to
26:32
squeeze through the trigger, make a good shot and if it's.
26:36
And it's humane. And it's humane.
26:38
For me it's more of a distance thing.
26:39
So that's why to your point, I would put it, I could see that.
26:43
Sorry, probably. Wouldn't put it.
26:45
With archery season, no I, I. Wouldn't either.
26:47
That's what I'm saying the. You're correct, unless it's
26:50
someone. With an injury or age or
26:51
something, yeah. You're you're correct in that
26:54
the technology these days really doesn't make a a whole lot of
27:00
difference. But I will tell you that it
27:04
makes a difference in the shooters overconfidence.
27:08
So if you've got, yeah, like back in the day when you had
27:12
those like Tasco scopes that were like were like 4 1/2 to 10
27:17
or something like that, you had a range of, you know, a six, a
27:21
500 yard shot was a poke and you didn't want to do that, I'd say
27:25
3. But now, so it's a poke Now I've
27:28
got, I've got a four and a half, a 3 1/2 to 27 on one of my
27:32
rifles that you can, you can I, I shot 1000 yards and you know
27:38
it like I missed a couple of times, but at 1000 yards I was
27:43
actually shocked at how well I could hit that.
27:45
So that's overconfidence because of your equipment and what you
27:50
think you can do or you watch other.
27:51
People do with that same Yep. Well, and then you think.
27:54
Then you think, oh, well, we I've got a little bit of wind
27:56
here that makes no difference. Yeah, it does.
27:59
Just because you can see that target and see every D, you can
28:03
see all the spots on those deer or elk or something like that.
28:06
You can see how many times it's got.
28:09
Doesn't mean that your projectile is going to land
28:11
where you want it to. It takes a lot of skill and I
28:15
think a lot of hunters are overconfident because of their
28:18
optics on their weapons. So and and I mean, it's kind of
28:22
the same thing with with bows. I got I got, I know a guy who
28:26
who put A10 power lens on his scope and he joked with me that
28:31
he could see the nuts on a ticket 30 yards, you know, And
28:35
as he's a Kansas boy, he's hilarious.
28:37
I love him to death. But I mean, a female tick.
28:40
Yeah, exactly. But but, but you know, all of
28:44
that, all of that technology on your bows and on your weapon
28:47
system leads, it only leads to overconfidence because with the
28:52
even with the amount with especially with like rifle
28:55
projectiles, they've come a long way.
28:58
But they haven't come that long away to where the wind and your
29:05
elevation and stuff like that doesn't make a difference
29:09
anymore. There's a lot of, I think
29:11
there's a lot of your shaking it.
29:12
Doesn't stop your nerves. Exactly, it doesn't.
29:14
Stop you punching the trigger and stuff like that.
29:17
And that can lead to injured animals as well.
29:21
That will make it to, Oh yeah, three or four years before
29:24
they're killed by another person.
29:25
And then you find out, you start to, you know, quarter the animal
29:30
and you find a shotgun slug in its leg, actually.
29:33
So the goat that I shot in Hawaii had been shot like
29:37
probably within the last three months maybe he was healed up.
29:41
He was fine until I shot him again.
29:43
But he was he he, he was fine until I shot.
29:48
Him again and. Then.
29:50
He wasn't. Yeah.
29:52
So actually. I don't know if we ever talked
29:54
about this, but this is another I think pretty cool discussion
29:59
too. So that goat comes in right?
30:03
Here's about 15 in this group. And as they're coming, I can see
30:09
the one in the back is a big one, right?
30:11
So I'm like, OK, I'm gonna wait for that one in the back and I'm
30:13
gonna shoot them. They were all filtering through
30:15
about 20 yards, but it's like straight downhill.
30:18
So he was a black, a black sheep.
30:20
And they're different colors. So I'm like, OK, when I see a
30:23
black one, I just got to be. I need.
30:24
That's just what color he was. I'm, you know, you pick that
30:27
one. Well, he had the biggest.
30:30
Horns, Jeezo. Big He had the.
30:33
Biggest horns? Let me explain.
30:35
That let me explain what happened this.
30:37
Podcast off the rails, so this goat.
30:40
These goats start filtering through and I'm like, I know
30:43
he's the last one and I see him come through.
30:46
One comes through, 2 comes through, three comes through.
30:48
They're standing there like and finally I see this large darker
30:52
complexion sheep Walker. So I draw on this goat and then
30:59
I realize I go, that's the wrong one.
31:01
That's a female, right? He thought all the.
31:04
Blankets looked the same. Jeez, O peek.
31:07
Jeez, O peek, kind of. And only four.
31:09
Or so goats had come by. So now I go, wow, now I'm in a
31:13
pickle. I'm in a draw at 20 yards and I
31:15
have a feeling I'm be waiting here a while.
31:17
So I start holding. So I'm like, oh, I can't let
31:21
down. I'm too close to him.
31:22
So I'm holding the draw and I'm holding, holding, holding.
31:26
And then I hold the draw so long that I have this Daydream.
31:32
I start Daydream and then I like snap back too.
31:35
And I go, oh, he's right there. He's past my window, right?
31:39
So I have the anchor lean forward.
31:41
These goats are small. I mean this he's probably 40
31:45
lbs, right? So maybe not even he is pretty
31:49
small. So dude, I shoot this goat and I
31:53
see the arrow hit like right where you'd want it to hit, but
31:57
I see that my arrow sticking out like the whole way.
32:01
I got like no penetration and it sounded like I cracked a rock,
32:04
right? So I'm like.
32:07
Not what you love to. See, you know, but then he
32:09
started running and I saw him like go head over heels off this
32:12
Cliff, right? So I'm like, wow, I know I I got
32:15
him, but like, why did my arrow go so shallow on such a small
32:19
animal at such a short distance? So I start, I go get the goat.
32:23
I start processing them, quartering them out and I
32:27
actually boned them out. Turns out my.
32:29
Arrow had entered right behind the shoulder, but it exited in
32:35
the actual ball socket, so I squared up the ball joint.
32:39
Probably the hardest part on the body that you can hit.
32:43
Now here's what's crazy. The broad head was fully
32:48
deployed, but it's one of the beast.
32:50
Broad heads. Beast.
32:51
Broad heads. Beast Broad heads.
32:53
Broad heads. One of the.
32:54
Blades broke in half, right. So it was 1/2 happened.
32:58
So it was a half a blade and the other one was a full blade.
33:02
The entrance wound was about like that big.
33:05
It was about like the size of a spear.
33:06
Big, big entrance. Now, here's the trippy part. 2
33:09
inches. Yeah, 2, two inches.
33:11
So I go show this to Josh Beaumar.
33:15
I send him. I send him the video.
33:16
I said check this out. I hit the ball joint.
33:18
You could see it. The broadhead's in the ball
33:20
joint when I pull it out, I show him a blade's broken and he
33:24
goes, dude, honestly, he said. That's actually really cool that
33:28
that broadhead is fully deployed with half a blade broken because
33:33
the beast is spring loaded. So like a rage or a sever, they
33:38
work off rotation. So if that blade breaks, the
33:41
other one folds back into the feral because it doesn't have
33:45
something pulling against it to keep it open really.
33:48
But he's like, dude, look at the amount of damage.
33:50
That thing's still dead. Sure it broke, but you still
33:53
have 1/2 inch of blade on the on one side, a full blade on the
33:57
other side, and they're both fully deployed.
34:00
They're both fully deployed. And he goes and he literally.
34:03
He literally pulled out a broad head, sent me a video and he
34:06
said look cut. He cut the one off and pushed it
34:09
into something. Sure enough, rotated right into
34:11
the pharaoh, but with the beast it was still fully deployed.
34:16
And I was like, dude, I hadn't even thought about that, but I
34:19
was like, that's a really good. Education.
34:23
Great education, so I've seen. I've seen broad heads.
34:26
I was just impressed. By that is what I was trying to
34:28
get to and like a broad heads are going to break like I've
34:30
shot rage for I've shot rage for a decade.
34:33
I've broken blades off those I've broken now a beast blade.
34:38
But I I was impressed when I heard the explanation.
34:41
And one thing I want to say about David Hauser, who kind of
34:45
is a head engineer for Beast and an phenomenal Archer, they put
34:52
so much thought into the product.
34:55
When you hang out with them, it's insane.
34:57
Like they had thought about this variable that's so rare to
35:00
happen, but still wanted to make it cool.
35:03
So I just thought that was a a cool thing.
35:05
That was a good, good. Discussion you know, my my
35:08
minimal experience with beast is I can't believe how well they
35:12
hold up because they don't break very often because I I have shot
35:17
the other brand and and I like them like rage or grade.
35:20
Yeah, yeah, I like. Them a lot and they're right.
35:23
I am amazed that you can you can for if you're Turkey hunting or
35:27
something like that, you know, there's no problem.
35:30
Use them rage two or three times and guys who are on a budget,
35:34
these things aren't cheap. It's impressive they're only
35:37
getting. More expensive, yeah.
35:40
So rages deploy like this, correct?
35:43
They deploy. Kind of back a little bit back a
35:47
little bit, yeah. So I've all.
35:49
And the the beast deploys like that, but it's spring loaded.
35:54
Spring loaded, Yeah. So I've seen a lot of broadheads
35:57
that deploy like this. Yeah.
35:59
Do the job. Like the Grim Reapers.
36:01
Grim Reapers. Or.
36:02
A lot of B3, all their B3 ones deploy like that, but they
36:07
deploy like this, but and so they go into the animal like
36:10
that, but when they come out, it's slowed down so much that it
36:14
causes them to close when they exit the animal.
36:18
So you go to retrieve your broadhead and they're closed
36:22
because and and so you go, holy crap, they didn't deploy at all.
36:27
Well, they did you. Just.
36:28
Did. But but the but it going a full
36:32
pass through will will slow it down enough to where the inertia
36:36
the inertia makes them close again.
36:39
Don't actually. Know if they deployed in the
36:41
animal Here Here's a cool. Part I like about Grim Reaper is
36:45
number one. I have a buddy that uses them a
36:48
lot and I've seen them shoot a very, very big animals and they
36:53
they work super well. I like, I like the four blade
36:56
idea a lot. A lot of them are four blade and
36:59
you got to give it to Grim Reaper.
37:00
They're very reasonably priced compared to a lot of others.
37:03
I believe they're 4 packs and they're a little bit cheaper.
37:07
But you know, one thing I think is cool about Beast as well, not
37:11
to make it a beast AD, but like they confront, they just say
37:15
yeah, they're expensive, but like there's so much technology
37:18
baked in, like they should be expensive.
37:20
So anyway, quick AD team BBS the code if you want to save money
37:23
on Beast and also Kawasaki, we throw Kawasaki in the AD
37:27
segment. No code for.
37:29
That one, no. Code for the Kawasaki.
37:31
Unfortunately, the one thing that I will.
37:33
Say about Beast that I like Grim reapers.
37:36
They'll come with one practice head, which pisses me off
37:40
because you get 3 broad heads in there and one practice head and
37:47
beast, although they are like a little bit more expensive.
37:51
You can buy a three pack of practice heads where I don't
37:55
think you can do that. Now they, or at least I'd not
37:57
see that's a big deal. It's a big.
38:00
Deal. It was.
38:01
One practice tip and only two broad heads in the pack and I
38:05
was like Oh my God. I mean, to fill a Clipper you
38:08
got to buy 2 packs of these things.
38:09
Yeah, but they have since changed that to where you'd buy
38:13
the practice set and you buy a full pack of three now.
38:16
And I was like that. That tool was much better and I.
38:19
I. Almost prefer just buying the
38:22
three broad heads and then just getting a three pack of practice
38:25
heads. So you can, you can literally
38:28
you don't have to sit there and like shoot 1 arrow, pull it and
38:31
then that one flew fine and then and then put another practice
38:34
head on another arrow, shoot it. And it's just it's just so much
38:38
easier to get a pack of three practice broad heads plus some
38:41
more shooting you do. With that broad end
38:44
configuration, the better, you know, And then and then right
38:48
when you get near the hunt, you can refine it and say, OK, I'm
38:52
going to actually shoot a real head or something like that.
38:54
So trust it in your mind if you hunt.
38:57
Enough, you know, and you're you're rebuying packs and packs
39:01
of broad heads and whatnot like then you stack up.
39:03
Your then what am I stacking? Up all these practice steps for,
39:05
you know, like you just buy your 3.
39:07
In fact, you put them on your 3 arrows to, to practice around
39:11
and what not make sure your grouping is correct or a tune
39:13
your butt a little bit if need be and then you're done.
39:16
Whereas if you just buy one set of broad heads or even 2, you
39:21
only got 2 practice tips. And so that's a slight bummer.
39:26
You know, if you want to shoot more than that in a group, you
39:28
got to go pull every 2 * 2 arrows only.
39:30
Like I say, it takes three to make a group, you know, And then
39:34
the opposite end is once you start stacking up purchases,
39:37
it's like, what do I need 15 practice tips for?
39:41
Yeah. So you just buy the three pack,
39:44
be done with it, save them. Yeah.
39:46
And now every time you're buying a pack, you're getting your full
39:49
set of three. Actual I I agree.
39:51
That is nice. David, did you draw any tags
39:54
this year? My friend, I have a deer.
39:57
Rifle tag in Arizona, OK, it won't tell you where because
40:01
don't do that. Don't do that.
40:04
So I've got. My, I've you know, this is a
40:06
hunting, an archery hunting podcast, but I do have my 7mm
40:11
Remington magnum all tuned up and ready to go.
40:14
But I have some, I have AI have a spot where I'm looking to
40:18
archery hunt as well. So in Arizona, the hunting
40:23
season bleeds into January. So we're I'm I'm if I don't get
40:31
a or if I if I don't get a deer in August or something like that
40:37
with my bow, I can always go to the rifle tag.
40:40
Obviously if you get a deer in in August with your bow, can't
40:43
use the rifle tag. But if I don't get a deer in
40:47
August with a bow, if I don't get a deer with my rifle in in
40:51
November, then I can roll on into December and January.
40:56
And in December, if I get a deer in December with my bow, I can
41:02
then get an over the counter tag for January.
41:06
Yeah, so but that means I can't put in for the rest of 2026 for
41:12
a deer tag. You can get a bonus.
41:13
Point correct. Yeah, that's.
41:16
Barely or I can just put. I put all my points for elk and
41:18
sheep even though I'll never get a sheep.
41:22
I would have but. We can't do my friends that I
41:24
get. To for it I'm like can can I get
41:26
to? Go back.
41:27
Yes. I wanna go.
41:29
Back we were talking about all this rifles, smoke pole, scroll
41:37
pole. Is that Muslim?
41:39
Motor to you? I've never heard that before.
41:43
That's awesome. So there's.
41:46
Have you ever heard sliver Slinger?
41:48
No Sliver Slinger. That's.
41:53
What I'm going? To be that sounds, that sounds
41:55
very. Sexual.
41:57
Sort of smoke folds it. Does it?
42:00
Does sounds like something. You say when you live in the
42:03
swamp Sliver sling in tonight this.
42:07
Podcast is off the rails. This thing's crazy.
42:12
You haven't heard? Of sliver slingers, that's what
42:15
that's what the rifles call us Archers.
42:18
So what were you getting to? What I'm getting to do is 2
42:21
things and I'll probably forget one of them. 1 is, is, is back
42:28
to the, the thought process of the man in the arena.
42:32
Have you, if you study Teddy Roosevelt and, and the
42:35
discussions about the man in the arena.
42:39
And I and I would say what I'm referring to is when we talk
42:44
about all these different functions and we get pissed off
42:47
at the guys who govern this stuff.
42:50
They're in charge of it, the game commissions of each state.
42:55
Give them some credit. They're taking all our input and
42:59
they got to make a decision. You know, so it's tough.
43:03
Give them credit and and say don't call them stupid and
43:07
everything because they really aren't.
43:09
They're they're there because they're hunters and they want
43:12
things to go right. So they got some tough
43:15
decisions. Mechanical Brog, you know where
43:18
they've all been through. So that's that's sort of my
43:21
point on that one. Well, I got to keep.
43:23
Up with innovation. Innovation.
43:25
And, and, and, and what we're doing.
43:28
And another thing too, you got to remember that guys really,
43:33
really, really want to hunt. And, and they go, well, they got
43:37
a rifle, you know, they got a bowl, the one under the bed
43:40
you're talking about. And they, they pick A tag
43:43
because I got really good odds if I go for a bow in that zone,
43:47
you know, so everybody wants to hunt, everybody has a desire to
43:52
hunt. And they, they, some of this,
43:55
these decision processes like a bow hunter is going, that guy
44:00
shouldn't be bow hunting. He shoots 2 weeks before the
44:03
season and he shouldn't be out there bowl hunting.
44:07
So, yeah, I'm, I'm breaking some rules right here, but you know
44:11
what I mean, That that that is a driving force for people putting
44:16
in for a certain tag is they go, I got AI got a bowl, I got a
44:21
muzzle loader, I got a crossbow, I got a big rifle, you know,
44:26
and, and, and they're all hunters and they all love to
44:29
hunt and they want to do they want to be successful.
44:33
So yeah, let's, I mean, I mean, for me the biggest thing is
44:36
always to. Just as long as people are
44:37
hunting legally, legal and. To the.
44:40
Rest of their ability, then I'm supportive, you know what I
44:43
mean? Because I think there's hunters
44:44
especially, especially as time goes on and it's a broken
44:47
record. But like with with more
44:49
legislation constantly getting pushed to ban hunting or strip
44:52
back hunting rights or sell public land or whatever it might
44:55
be, it's more important than ever to just support all hunters
44:59
as long as they're doing it legally.
45:00
And then beyond that, bro, I'm never going to hate on somebody
45:03
for shooting a crossbow or a muzzle loader, a rifle or bow.
45:07
I choose to hunt with a bow, but that doesn't make someone who
45:11
hunts with 30 out six, you know, with, with grand Pappy.
45:15
Like that's great too. You know what I mean?
45:17
Like, there's different types of hunters, but we're all in this
45:21
together, so it's so important to stick together and for me,
45:23
that's always the big show. And the lethality of everything
45:27
we're talking about is lethality and we're getting better and
45:31
better at that. So we got to work through this
45:34
maze and our decision makers have to make those decisions
45:38
well and not. Not only that, but like, you
45:41
know, if it even if we made it all archery hunting in Arizona,
45:47
they they would not reach their quotas for what they're they're
45:50
looking to harp. That's huge balance because.
45:53
Because I know, I know a unit in Arizona where they had I think
45:59
10 tags available and it's a it's a big ass unit and there
46:05
were only two deer harvested with a bow.
46:08
And I know both of those people. So I mean the the rest.
46:13
And that's two out of 10 tags that they were looking that they
46:17
that they gave out or you mean a quote, a quota, yes.
46:21
Is it what the percentage they? Wanted because that's like 2 out
46:25
of 10. I yeah, Did I get that?
46:27
Well, the quota is. Different than A tag allotment.
46:29
Quota is like meant to be filled I think by the end of season is
46:32
the target, but that's only for the.
46:35
In Arizona for example, the quota only is for archery.
46:38
So like all the other stuff, correct.
46:41
Doesn't. You're right.
46:42
Someone has to be in there doing the math and go, OK, our success
46:45
rates are in this unit, are with a rifle are generally, let's
46:49
just say 50%, right? We need to give out.
46:52
We want 100 deer killed, so we need to give out 200 tags.
46:55
Yeah. You know, there's a lot that
46:57
goes into it, a lot of adjustments.
46:58
And as you know, we'll close it with this.
47:01
It's a good quote by a good philosopher named Isaac Newton.
47:05
If it fits, it ships. And that's basic, yeah.
47:10
Yeah, it might be. Nostradamus I'm not sure but
47:13
see. One of those.
47:14
CEO of. Amazon.
47:15
Whatever. Oh, basic.
47:17
Sir, it's been a pleasure. Great job, Brianna, been a
47:20
pleasure. David, you're star of the show
47:22
today. Good, good work on that.
47:24
And again, any hate comments go over to 614 archery dot.
47:28
Yeah, YouTube and yeah, subscribe, then go by a Kawasaki
47:33
Ridge and we'll see you in the next podcast.
47:38
Thank you for watching and. I remember.
47:42
I remember you were out to dinner in Yuma and you were
47:46
talking about how Tori got a notification it is OK of a reel
47:53
where you were like, what's going on with this?
47:55
And then you like, all the sudden you were looking at the
47:58
analytics and it was flat, flat, flat, flat.
48:00
And then Eiffel Tower. And.
48:04
Instead of being like, oh, my gosh, this got however many
48:07
millions of views after two years, you were like, why the
48:10
fuck did that happen? And you started to do, like, an
48:13
autopsy on what? On, like, what was going on with
48:18
this video? Yeah.
48:20
And literally like, I want to know why this all the sudden
48:27
super super big. Isn't that interesting?
48:29
Well. But other people would just be
48:31
focused on the view count. You were like focused on why did
48:36
all of a sudden this get crazy popular like basically
48:40
overnight? Oh yeah, from a two year from a
48:43
2 year old reel, right. And I was like, I was like, I
48:46
don't, my mind does not think that way.
48:50
Yeah. I'm focused on the video quality
48:52
and stuff like that. Yeah.
48:54
And you're like, I want to know why this?
48:57
Happened the. Way it did.
48:58
Yeah, it is interesting too. I always say that social media
49:04
it's. A moving.
49:05
Target right? So I'm always having to adapt to
49:09
new platforms. For example, when I started, it
49:12
was really just YouTube and then couple years later we added
49:15
maybe three years later added Instagram and then couple years
49:19
later added Facebook and TikTok. And now we've added Snapchat and
49:24
we've added a podcast, which is on Spotify and Apple.
49:28
So basically you always have to be hitting the, it's like whack
49:33
A mole, hitting stuff, learning how to do it.
49:34
And then, and then for me, I mean, obviously I always say
49:38
like social media, making the videos isn't like inherently
49:41
what I do for money. But without the social media and
49:45
all the platforms, none of the other stuff that I do earns
49:48
money. So that's how I always try to
49:50
explain it. So yes, the videos do make some
49:53
money for sure, but the website makes a lot more, the
49:57
sponsorships make a lot more. And without the viewership and
50:01
the social media, I don't have any sponsorships and no traffic
50:04
on the website, right? So that's why it's like
50:06
important to stay with this stuff.
50:09
But yeah, to your point, I mean I am very into the analytics and
50:13
kind of like know when trying. To know my.
50:15
Best of what to do and like this idea, what made me want to do
50:19
it, And I've wanted to do it for a long time, of course, is
50:23
Bryson Dechambeau, A golfer, did a similar series where every day
50:27
he would shoot a golf shot over his house and try to make a hole
50:30
in one. And each day he'd get another
50:32
shot. And I was loved it.
50:33
You know, every day on Instagram, it would be like you
50:35
wanted to see if he made it, you know, and he made it on day 14.
50:40
So we'll see when we make it. But but yeah, that's so a lot of
50:44
times for me, it's like an idea. I'll see that.
50:46
I'm like, I'm intrigued by this, but it's never from archery or
50:50
hunting. I always get ideas from like
50:52
something else and then bring it in.
50:55
And then a lot of times once I do it, I've noticed I'll see
50:58
other people in archery and hunting like kind of use do do
51:02
the same ideas, which to me is cool.
51:05
I I, yeah, I'm not offended by that.
51:07
I think you should. But I do find a little joy in
51:10
being like, hey, I did that idea first.
51:12
You know what I mean? I do like that.
51:14
And I think to young creators, this is such a random bit at the
51:19
end, but I like it. Yeah, the young creators, I
51:21
think that. And I do have kids come up at
51:23
TAC and be like, how do you do it?
51:24
Like what? What has been the worked, you
51:27
know? And for me, it's like, I think
51:29
the more you can be inspired by stuff that is not in the space
51:34
and bring it to the space, I think is far better in my
51:38
opinion, than seeing what other people are doing in the space
51:40
that's working and go, I'm going to copy that because your
51:43
audience is the same, you know what I mean?
51:45
It is my audience is the same as every other archery and hunter
51:51
audience. So if I copy an idea from or I'm
51:55
inspired by an idea that Hush does, well, whoever watches my
52:01
video is going to be like, oh, I've seen that idea on Hush, you
52:03
must have got it from Hush. But if I pull it from Bryson de
52:06
Chambo's channel, they probably don't watch his channel, you
52:10
know what I mean? So it's like a fresh idea.
52:13
And I know that's kind of random tangent, but we're closing out
52:16
here. It's not random.
52:18
We all try to be original, yeah. But in reality, there's no such
52:23
thing as an original thought Nobody has one.
52:26
Yeah, my. Idea for this series is not
52:28
original, but it is original in the space.
52:31
Yeah, you know what I mean. But David, you got some gifts
52:34
here. I do.
52:35
And. These these are for your
52:38
engagement. Thank you, Sir.
52:39
You congratulations to both of you.
52:42
I'm very happy for you. Thank you.
52:44
And these? Are Shabbat time.
52:47
Yeah. Haven't heard that one, my dad.
52:52
Said. The same thing with my sister,
52:54
yeah, when my when my brother-in-law proposed.
52:57
So I mean, yeah, that's a that's a common thought.
53:00
But because you guys have been so kind to me in a world of
53:04
assholes, you guys have been so kind to me.
53:07
I know I have two gifts from you.
53:09
One of you you're going to find very, very functional and I
53:13
think you're going to like one of them.
53:15
It's 5050 whether you're going to absolutely hate it or not.
53:19
OK. I will start with the gift that
53:21
you guys are going to find functional.
53:22
Here is the package, and here is a California legal knife that
53:28
you can open. Are you ready?
53:30
Yes. Wait.
53:31
Hold on by the. Step.
53:32
Why were you holding it? Over here.
53:34
Well, I was going to let you. Like I just used.
53:37
It I used. It the wrong way, Anna do not
53:38
cut. Your did you this is it's a
53:41
dangerous. This looks bad.
53:44
There you go, that was some. Of the worst.
53:46
Other than earnest knife work the other day, that was bad And
53:49
maybe go ahead and. Pull that out of there and this
53:51
is. Because this is because it's
53:53
strictly irritates. Oh bro, I've been wanting.
53:56
The lens. This means we still have not.
53:58
Ordered what it irritates. The little fuck out of me as a
54:01
video nerd that you guys don't have as the filter.
54:04
For every other photographer. Thank you bro.
54:06
You I walk one. I know I still have a blade
54:08
dude, thank you. I literally I can't tell you how
54:11
many times that I have gone to Brianna and go, hey, can you
54:14
just order me one of these ND filters and then it doesn't
54:16
happen. So I appreciate that bro.
54:18
So. That's that's from the same
54:21
company that I order my ND filters and I believe it fits on
54:25
your lens. Cool.
54:25
All right, If it doesn't, I don't know what to do about it.
54:28
Ask me what lens we. Had.
54:30
Yes, I did. That's the one I.
54:31
Didn't answer it, did I? I've been.
54:33
Did I answer? It you did not.
54:35
Yeah, I didn't. Planning this for a.
54:37
Long time now, to be fair, you did answer me on the what kind
54:41
of lens do you have and stuff like that.
54:43
But I hope to Christ it fits. We did go with the.
54:47
Tamron, but yes. Yes.
54:49
And that's the same great lens. That's what I use.
54:53
And then I was probably enjoying it, Yeah.
54:56
So basically what that will allow you to do.
54:58
The knife up real quick. Figure it out just.
55:02
Press the button and it'll. Wait, yeah, and you can like
55:04
close though maybe just give it to.
55:05
David to close, Well, you're gonna.
55:08
Need it in a SEC. OK, so keep.
55:09
You good? Yeah.
55:10
OK, So what do? What do we got next?
55:12
OK, I got a grill piping on. Krill piping hot this I try I
55:17
tempted to ship this and then every place that I I was told
55:23
that I went to yeah, California legal, by the way, California
55:27
legal. It is completely legal in the
55:29
state that I am, late that I'm in.
55:31
We live in the Communist Republic.
55:35
There's nothing. Illegal about it.
55:36
That's that's why I bought it and why I brought it here.
55:39
It's it has to do with certain amount of inches, you know.
55:44
So is it inches? Yeah, that have more inches.
55:46
Exactly if it. Has more inches.
55:48
It has more penetrate penetration.
55:50
I've always heard that a shorter.
55:51
Thrust sometimes can be better for it can, yeah, and and.
55:55
I prefer smaller knives because they're they're very more more
55:58
useful. They can fit into more space
56:00
well, especially you know how to use them well.
56:02
Exactly. You can get around a little, but
56:04
sometimes it serves like a. Lot of stuff that you can't get.
56:07
Through. Much with yeah, but that but.
56:09
I mean, that's when you just bring a bring a bigger light
56:11
knife. But I've found that with this,
56:14
with this knife, bring it and mix it.
56:15
Into the party with the other knife Exactly, but.
56:18
With the smaller knives, I prefer the smaller knives
56:20
because there's a. Smaller knife.
56:23
Of that knit I feel to go out of this podcast I wanna like I feel
56:26
that the. Smaller knives work way better
56:28
for what I'm using. If I'm not using that, I'm using
56:31
my Ruschetti. So OK, I hate.
56:34
To be a bastard, but we gotta wrap this up.
56:36
Yeah, I. Gotta grill and then you'll need
56:38
this. I found out that this is illegal
56:41
to ship anywhere, which is complete bullshit, but that's
56:45
fine. Would you like me to do the
56:47
night thing? I think, yeah, maybe you have me
56:49
do and this is this. Is the product that 5050 you're
56:52
either going to love or you're going to hate, so anywhere.
56:57
When I used to. Drink.
56:58
When I used to drink liquor, I would preferably go to this
57:03
brand. So it's liquor, jinx.
57:07
It's liquor. Which is illegal to ship in the
57:11
United States for some reason. Really.
57:14
Yeah. I.
57:15
Did that any listeners illegal? To ship in the United States in
57:17
in. In some states, you probably
57:19
have to. Be licensed to ship exactly you
57:23
probably. Have.
57:23
To have which is. One of the reasons why I'm here
57:26
today, because I wanted to. I wanted to get this to you.
57:28
Yeah, that's cool. That's very kind.
57:30
Of you making the journey to come hang out like a fun nice
57:34
bunch. Not how I would open Christmas.
57:36
Presents all right here we. Go.
57:38
What do we got here? We got a Lagavolin single malt
57:44
Scotch whiskey. Yes, we love.
57:46
Whiskey. Yes, we do.
57:48
Now I. Should mix this with.
57:50
My Pepsi. That's blasphemous to me.
57:54
Blasphemous. That's blasphemous to me because
57:58
I drink Scotch straight with no ice because the taste.
58:03
So what you're going to taste when you when this hits your
58:08
lips and your tongue, it's going to taste like you're licking a
58:11
campfire is basically what it's going to taste.
58:14
Well, I want to be. There.
58:15
Yeah, exactly. I love this taste but it's 5050
58:21
whether you guys are. Going to like it let.
58:23
Me. Take a look.
58:23
Yeah, let me take. The thing off this is.
58:26
This is premium Scotch whiskey, so I just wanted to tell you
58:30
guys. Thank you, Sir.
58:31
That is so, so kind of you. You are a dear friend of mine
58:35
and I appreciate it. That's so kind and you're you're
58:39
a legend. So you, you guys have been very.
58:42
Kind to me. So I I appreciate you guys.
58:52
Might not be. My favorite, but I still.
58:55
Appreciate this, I may re gift it to.
58:59
I may re. I smell it.
59:01
They're coffee got. It and I'm like basking in the
59:04
smell. Tove.
59:06
Tove take a swig. What do you think?
59:08
It's like I open a kit. You had to have a.
59:10
Caveat here. I I have never liked Scotch, so
59:14
OK, OK so so. Let's see what we got.
59:17
I can. Smell it.
59:26
It's got really good. Flavor.
59:27
Yep, he took that like. A The smell.
59:32
To me. It's I've been in the medical
59:34
field. I It's a little medicinal, the
59:37
smell a little bit like cleats. The slosh, a little bit like the
59:41
alcohol you wipe on the patient. Yeah, you go with the surgery,
59:43
try a little bit. Yeah, try a little bit.
59:46
We're going to close out with this right here.
59:48
Oh, this is it. See this is.
59:51
It Brandon McDonald would love this.
59:53
I'm sure I know he would with his cigars.
59:56
Oh, oh what? Oh, if you if you, if you pair
59:59
this with meat. It's I put a match.
1:00:02
With me it being. It's not, it's not horrible.
1:00:05
It's very tasty. It's just very tasty.
1:00:07
Thank you, Sir. Very.
1:00:08
Good. I really appreciate it.
1:00:09
I love for sure one of the gifts.
1:00:13
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
1:00:14
You hate the I don't hate. It I just.
1:00:16
I mean to try again when it comes to you.
1:00:18
Mention the house. That doesn't mean it won't get
1:00:21
used, guys. It has been an absolute
1:00:24
pleasure. David's a legend. 614 archery
1:00:26
Tove here is going to be featured on a On a Bitch and
1:00:29
Hunt here pretty soon. Oh yeah, and Brianna, she's just
1:00:32
a legend and a nice lady as usual.
1:00:35
And yeah, we'll see you in the next one.
1:00:38
Thank you for watching. Now go cook some meat.
1:00:40
I'm going to go cook some.