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The Secret to the Rise of the Socialists | Episode 347 · V

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to Vince on a Tuesday. It's so
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  Speaker 1: good to see everyone.
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  Speaker 2: I'm back.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Tan rested and ready after a nice vacation. I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you all about it in just a moment. Great
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  Speaker 1: to see you, though. You're the best audience anywhere, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad to see you back here again with me.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody who was pinch-hitting for me during my
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  Speaker 1: time off to include the great Haley Karania and Sean Farish.
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  Speaker 1: God bless them for that. Thank you very much, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you. What a great team to work with here
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  Speaker 1: at the Silverlock. Operation. Appreciate those guys. We will discuss
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  Speaker 1: a lot today. What happened while I was gone? We've
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  Speaker 1: got updates on the Save America Act, of course. We
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  Speaker 1: always have to touch on that. And then what's going
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  Speaker 1: on with these socialists, you know? And the craziness that's
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  Speaker 1: behind their movement. Of course, there's a lot of infighting
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  Speaker 1: going on on the left, but who's voting for the
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  Speaker 1: craziest possible Democrats? I've got some details, some data that
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  Speaker 1: we're going to dive into. And also, speaking of data,
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  Speaker 1: did you see these numbers that just came out about
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  Speaker 1: the COVID jabs leading to a whole bunch of unborn
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  Speaker 1: children being aborted in utero. Terrific data. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk to Jay Bhattacharya coming up with the Trump administration.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get his reaction to that and so much more
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed. So, aloha, first and foremost. I did go
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  Speaker 1: to Hawaii. That's where we went. We went to Hawaii.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason for that is it's Hawaii. How cool
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  Speaker 1: is Hawaii? But actually, the motivating factor for us to
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  Speaker 1: go to Oahu is the fact that I lived there
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  Speaker 1: as a kid. For those of you who've been with
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  Speaker 1: me for a while, you'll know that my father's a Marine,
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  Speaker 1: Marine General, retired after 36 years in the United States
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  Speaker 1: Marine Corps. And one of his duty stations during his
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  Speaker 1: time in the Corps was the Kaneohe Marine Corps Base,
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  Speaker 1: Marine Corps Base Hawaii. And so as a kid, I
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  Speaker 1: lived there for Three years on Oahu. But up until
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  Speaker 1: this moment in my life, I've never been able to
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  Speaker 1: share it with my wife and my daughter. And so
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  Speaker 1: I said, why don't we go to Hawaii? So I
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  Speaker 1: took them. And we spent a week there. And in
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  Speaker 1: addition to seeing some of the touristy things, of course,
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  Speaker 1: we were there on Waikiki Beach. It was all very
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  Speaker 1: wonderful in that way. But I got to take my
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  Speaker 1: wife and my child around to places that meant a
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  Speaker 1: lot to me in my childhood that up until this
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  Speaker 1: point they haven't been able to see. So we went
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  Speaker 1: to the town of Kailua. Kailua, which is on the
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  Speaker 1: eastern side of Oahu. And that's where my school, my
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  Speaker 1: middle school was, Kailua Intermediate, for those of you who
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  Speaker 1: are familiar with the area, was where I went to
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  Speaker 1: middle school. So I brought my wife and my daughter.
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  Speaker 1: We got to see that. And I took them around town,
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  Speaker 1: showed them these various places that I got to hang
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  Speaker 1: out as a kid. It was wonderful. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 1: I showed them the, you know, the regular awesome stuff
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  Speaker 1: that I was very well aware of in Oahu. Because
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  Speaker 1: when we'd have family members come to visit us, I'd
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  Speaker 1: take them to all these various locations. So I got
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  Speaker 1: to take my wife and my daughter there, including Sea
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  Speaker 1: Life Park. And we took them, I took them hiking
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  Speaker 1: on Diamond Head, which was great. My wife and daughter,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, are in much better shape.
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  Speaker 2: Than I am.
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  Speaker 1: So they handle Diamond Head even easier than I did.
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  Speaker 1: But it was, it was wonderful. And then, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we did a whole bunch of Polynesian Cultural Center and
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  Speaker 1: the Dole Pineapple Plantation. And by the way, in the
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  Speaker 1: midst of all of this, we ran into great viewers
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  Speaker 1: and listeners of this program. And thank you. It was funny,
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  Speaker 1: including I saw one gentleman who I had met in
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  Speaker 1: Virginia who was there at the Dole Pineapple Plantation and
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  Speaker 1: walking out the door after we got a chance to
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  Speaker 1: tour the pineapple maze and be reading Dole Whip. I'm
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  Speaker 1: walking out the door and this guy goes, Vince?
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  Speaker 2: And I go, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And he goes, hey, I met you in Virginia. I go, well,
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  Speaker 1: we've come a long way to meet again.
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  Speaker 2: It was great.
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  Speaker 1: It was super great. Anyway, really nice to see everybody.
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  Speaker 1: What a wonderful time and a great experience. And the
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  Speaker 1: big I would say the big highlight of the week, though,
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  Speaker 1: in addition to getting to share all of that with
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  Speaker 1: my family was we got to take a really nice
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  Speaker 1: trip to the USS Arizona. Now, if you ever go
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  Speaker 1: to Oahu, I'm telling you, this is a must stop.
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  Speaker 1: to see this grave site for well over a thousand
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  Speaker 1: men who died, perished on that day in December 7th
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  Speaker 1: of 1941 in Pearl Harbor. You've got to check this out.
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  Speaker 1: You have to go, you have to see it. And
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  Speaker 1: because it just helps you really appreciate the value of
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  Speaker 1: our American history and the sacrifices that so many have
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  Speaker 1: made to keep this great country going, including the men
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  Speaker 1: who perished aboard that ship. And, you know, One of the,
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk about this maybe in more depth today on
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  Speaker 1: the big national radio show, but just to give you
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  Speaker 1: kind of a quick summary here. I had the privilege,
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  Speaker 1: I brought my wife and my daughter with me, of course.
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  Speaker 1: We had the privilege of joining a small group from
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  Speaker 1: the Hawaii Department of Transportation. We took a little tour
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  Speaker 1: boat with them that was arranged by the Navy. And
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  Speaker 1: we got on this little tour boat and right after
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  Speaker 1: we essentially did like kind of a small museum tour
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  Speaker 1: that they have there. We get on the tour boat.
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  Speaker 1: They took us around all of the various sites inside
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  Speaker 1: of Pearl Harbor along Battleship Row to see each of
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  Speaker 1: the different spots and kind of talk about them in
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  Speaker 1: some depth, which was nice. Just remarkable stories. If you
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  Speaker 1: haven't really stared at all of the specific details about
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  Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor, I encourage you to do that. But here's
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  Speaker 1: one that really stands out to me. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: USS Nevada was struck. This battleship was struck by the
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  Speaker 1: Japanese alongside the rest of these ships that were docked
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  Speaker 1: in Pearl Harbor. And they tried to basically get the
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  Speaker 1: Nevada out of the harbor. The Nevada was already struck.
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  Speaker 1: They had already hit it with this torpedo. And they
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  Speaker 1: basically got the ship underway and they were heading out
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  Speaker 1: of the harbor. And as the Japanese see that this
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  Speaker 1: battleship is on the move, they begin concentrating all of
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  Speaker 1: their firepower on the Nevada for a reason. They're trying
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  Speaker 1: to use it to block the exit path for the harbor.
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  Speaker 1: And if they did that, if they blocked the channel,
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  Speaker 1: the US ships would have been absolutely stacked. The ability
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  Speaker 1: to get ships in and out of Pearl Harbor would
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  Speaker 1: have been destroyed entirely. So the captain of the Nevada
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  Speaker 1: runs the entire ship aground intentionally, which was a heroic
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  Speaker 1: and quick thinking decision because it meant that we could
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  Speaker 1: actually keep moving the entirety of the United States Navy
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  Speaker 1: that was concentrated there in Pearl Harbor. It's just so
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  Speaker 1: many amazing stories of heroism that day. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: then we get to the USS Arizona, we stop there.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the wonderful things for me was having
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  Speaker 1: my daughter and my wife, but my daughter, especially as
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  Speaker 1: I raised her, to be able to contemplate that we
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  Speaker 1: were standing over a gravesite. You know, when you stand
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  Speaker 1: at the USS Arizona, it's just a little memorial building
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  Speaker 1: that stands over the top of the wreckage of the ship,
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  Speaker 1: which you can still see below the waterline. For those
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  Speaker 1: of you who've been there, you know all about this,
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  Speaker 1: but just so people understand what this is. And there
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  Speaker 1: are thousands of men underwater, still inside that grave. And
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  Speaker 1: in fact, as people have died through the years who
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  Speaker 1: were survivors of the USS Arizona, many of them, their
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  Speaker 1: families have actually entombed their bodies inside of the Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: And so we're standing there, and I think this is very, it's,
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  Speaker 1: I can tell my daughter is very affected by it.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the most amazing things about the Arizona
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  Speaker 1: to this very day is that the fuel that was
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  Speaker 1: within the ship when the ship went down, they were
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  Speaker 1: maxed out. They had about every last drop of fuel
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  Speaker 1: inside of that ship that they could possibly have. It
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  Speaker 1: was about 1.5 million gallons of fuel inside of the
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  Speaker 1: ship itself. And so when the ship goes down, the
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  Speaker 1: fuel that's within it, the Navy had to make a
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  Speaker 1: decision with that wreckage? Do we go in and do
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  Speaker 1: we drain the fuel? Or is that effort too risky?
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  Speaker 1: Are we going to cause an ecological disaster? And the
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  Speaker 1: Navy realized the latter is probably true. We can't drain it.
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  Speaker 1: If we attempt to, we may release one and a
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  Speaker 1: half million gallons of fuel into the water here in
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  Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor. So instead, they made a calculated decision. The
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  Speaker 1: fuel is going to continue to leak slowly for many years.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, each day, the USS Arizona leaks about a
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  Speaker 1: gallon of fuel, a gallon. So at the memorial, you
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  Speaker 1: will see a fuel sheen, an oil sheen, right at
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  Speaker 1: the top of the water, a small one, but noticeable
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  Speaker 1: every day that you go to the USS Arizona. They
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  Speaker 1: call it the tears of the Arizona. And it was
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  Speaker 1: visible that day when we went. It was last week, Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: And my wife, my daughter, we got to see this again.
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  Speaker 1: And I had seen it many times before as a child,
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  Speaker 1: but now as an adult looking at this. And boy,
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  Speaker 1: I tell you what, what an emotionally resonant experience. And
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  Speaker 1: God bless the souls of the men who are aboard
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  Speaker 1: that ship. God bless everybody who has served in the
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  Speaker 1: United States military, and especially those who have paid the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate sacrifice. Thank you for your service to this country.
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  Speaker 1: We really value you. We really value you. And anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it was an amazing thing. So I hope that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: too tedious for you. I just wanted to give you,
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  Speaker 1: I really wanted to take you inside Hawaii is a
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  Speaker 1: nice trip. And I did say to my wife, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, should I tell the audience I went to Hawaii?
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  Speaker 1: I feel so decadent to say I went to Hawaii.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, yes, everybody wants to know, tell them what
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  Speaker 1: you were up to. I was like, okay, fine. I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you. And, uh, and it was really nice. And
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  Speaker 1: thank you to the Navy, uh, for, for putting us
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  Speaker 1: on that boat and, uh, giving us that experience. That
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  Speaker 1: was a really, really valuable one. And it means the
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  Speaker 1: world to me, uh, that I could share that with
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  Speaker 1: my daughter. So thank you for that. And thank you.
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  Speaker 1: American flags in the chat. We've got so many great
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  Speaker 1: American flags in the chat. Um, Yeah, I do have
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  Speaker 1: some jet lag. AH Pinto asked, it's a six hour
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  Speaker 1: time difference in Hawaii. So it's been, let's just say
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  Speaker 1: it's been utter chaos trying to figure out the sleep schedule,
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  Speaker 1: but we're here. We're feeling good. I've got my blackout coffee.
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  Speaker 1: I feel, I feel very good.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's dive into the things that happened while I was away. I,
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  Speaker 1: apparently there was some sort of like $ 20 burrito debate
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  Speaker 1: while I was gone. That was, I was kind of
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  Speaker 1: paying attention to it. I was like, what the hell's
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  Speaker 1: going on? There's a $ 20 burrito debate. You want my
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  Speaker 1: quick and dirty on that? Affordability really matters. And every
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  Speaker 1: single person should be encouraged to work as hard as
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  Speaker 1: they possibly can for their own success. Both of those
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  Speaker 1: things really matter. I know that doesn't make anybody happy,
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  Speaker 1: but I actually take both positions, which is that like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: America's leaders should work really hard to make life affordable,
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  Speaker 1: usually by getting the government out of the way. And meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: nobody should be told that it's impossible for them to succeed.
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  Speaker 1: America is a story of people succeeding against all odds.
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  Speaker 1: And so you should work your ass off to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I actually take, in that sense, I take kind of
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  Speaker 1: both positions here. The government shouldn't be driving up costs
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  Speaker 1: by like, let's see, how did Joe Biden do that?
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  Speaker 1: By printing trillions of dollars we didn't have. And meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: young people should be working their tails off to succeed
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  Speaker 1: for themselves and for their families. That's just true. These
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  Speaker 1: are just true things. I don't know why this is
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  Speaker 1: some big controversial thing. And no, I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: a great thing that burritos can run $ 20. That's crazy
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  Speaker 1: to me, a $ 20 burrito. So there's the quick and
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  Speaker 1: dirty on that. Also, the Senate adjourned this past week,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't pass the Save America Act. Oh, what
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  Speaker 1: a shock. I go away for two seconds, and then
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  Speaker 1: they don't pass the Save America Act. Now I feel
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  Speaker 1: guilty about going on recess. Now, of course- This is
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  Speaker 1: something of a fait accompli. You know, these guys were always,
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  Speaker 1: you know, destined, it seems, to take a recess without
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  Speaker 1: actually doing what we wanted. The Senate's been driving all
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  Speaker 1: of us crazy all year long. But here they are,
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  Speaker 1: the Senate, adjourning by voice vote.
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  Speaker 2: Cut one.
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  Speaker 4: Watch.
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  Speaker 2: I move to adjourn pursuant to the previous order. The
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  Speaker 2: question's on the motion. All in favor say aye.
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  Speaker 5: Aye.
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  Speaker 3: All opposed say no.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: The ayes have it.
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  Speaker 6: The motion's agreed to.
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  Speaker 1: The ayes have it. The ayes have it. And so
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  Speaker 1: a voice vote. Now, what's unusual about that, insofar as
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  Speaker 1: anything that was unusual there, is that a voice vote
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  Speaker 1: took place at all. Usually that recess happens by unanimous
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  Speaker 1: consent and nobody is there to voice their opposition to it.
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  Speaker 1: That actually happened this time because Mike Lee and a
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  Speaker 1: couple of other senators raised their voices in opposition. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that didn't sound, I don't know about you, but that
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  Speaker 1: to me did not sound like What was the number?
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  Speaker 1: Like like two dozen people or whatever it was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be. It didn't feel like the full strength of
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  Speaker 1: the people who claimed that they were going to fight
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  Speaker 1: for us. But Mike Lee was among them. And he said, look,
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  Speaker 1: this is the first time in decades where anything like
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  Speaker 1: this has even happened. Cut to watch this.
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  Speaker 6: OK, so it's about 5 a.m. and we just wrapped
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  Speaker 6: up in the Senate. Long night of voting. We got
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  Speaker 6: top-blanched confirmed as the Attorney General, and that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 6: We got the government funded through December 11th, and that's
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  Speaker 6: a good thing along the lines of the White House priority.
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  Speaker 6: And tragically, the Save America vote on the voter ID
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  Speaker 6: component failed. Not a single Democrat joined us. Are we
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  Speaker 6: going to have to keep fighting on that one? We're
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  Speaker 6: not done. We're just getting started. We had the voice
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  Speaker 6: vote on adjourning. And it failed. They outvoted us. That
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  Speaker 6: was the first time, as far as I'm aware, in
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  Speaker 6: decades when any vote has been held on any significant
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  Speaker 6: recess or adjournment. And I hope to have more of
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  Speaker 6: those in the future. I don't know what else to
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  Speaker 6: say other than thanks to all those who encouraged us
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  Speaker 6: to keep going, to keep fighting. We did our best.
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  Speaker 6: Left no stone unturned. I wish the outcome had been different,
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  Speaker 6: both as to adjournment And as to these votes. But
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  Speaker 6: this fight's not over. We're just getting started.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I don't know about you. That video drives me
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  Speaker 1: a little crazy. It drives me a little crazy. And
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  Speaker 1: here's why. It's because, like, you know, it just, it
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  Speaker 1: bums me out. It bums me out. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he says we're just getting started. Now, in fairness to
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  Speaker 1: Mike Lee, he's right. This is the part of a process.
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  Speaker 1: One way or another, we're getting what we want. If
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  Speaker 1: we don't get what we want, the country collapses. So
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  Speaker 1: here are your options. One way or another, you get
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  Speaker 1: election integrity or you don't and the whole thing collapses.
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  Speaker 1: You understand the stakes here. And so when he says
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  Speaker 1: we're just getting started, he's right about that. Now, it's
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  Speaker 1: frustrating that it's not done yet. It's frustrating they're on vacation.
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  Speaker 1: It's frustrating that he was one of just a handful
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  Speaker 1: of voices to vote opposition to going into recess. But
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  Speaker 1: what are our choices here? Either we get this done
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  Speaker 1: or we are done for. Again, I've said it not
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  Speaker 1: just today, but I've said it before. American history is
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  Speaker 1: full of stories of Americans succeeding against all odds. And
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  Speaker 1: right now the odds are stacked against us in the
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  Speaker 1: United States Senate. And not just because every Democrat opposes
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  Speaker 1: But we have to get this done and we have
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, we're just getting started. But boy, that's
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: very frustrating. It's hard to sound like Mike Lee in
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the midst of all of this. Now, the Senate, it's
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: on vacation, but it ain't on actual recess. You understand
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: what's going on with the recess, right? It's a pro
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: forma session yet again. You want to see how crazy
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: this is? Look at what Chad Pergram has summarized. Chad,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Senate pro forma schedule through mid-September. Every three to four days,
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  Speaker 1: they gavel in. 10 a.m.
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  Speaker 6: Yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: 8 a.m. this Thursday, 1.30 p.m. next Monday, 11.30 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: the following Thursday, then Monday, then Thursday, then Monday, then Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: then Friday, then Tuesday, then Thursday. They just boom, boom, boom.
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  Speaker 1: They just gavel in. They just keep gaveling it. That's
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: all they do. They don't do the job of the
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  Speaker 1: American people. They gavel. And why do they do that?
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Why do they bang a gavel when they're supposed to
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: be on vacation? Kind of seems inconvenient that a United
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: States Senator has to show up and bang a gavel.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: What is that about? The answer to that, quite unfortunately,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: is that the Republicans who run Congress are staying in
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: pro forma session to prevent the president of the United
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: States from having a recess appointment power. If there's a
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: better explanation for this, I've never heard one. The answer
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: is only to preclude the president of the United States
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: from having his recess appointment power. Now you explain to
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  Speaker 1: me how this makes it so that you're upholding the
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  Speaker 1: agenda of the American people. Now, look, I get it.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: They finally confirmed Todd Blanche.
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  Speaker 6: Great.
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  Speaker 1: But there's all sorts of people the president of the
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• 18:43
  Speaker 1: recess appointment power, and the Republican Congress is denying him.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: That would be both Mike Johnson and John Thune. This
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: is a joint conversation between the House and the Senate,
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  Speaker 1: and they're in pro forma session.
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  Speaker 2: This is gross.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is so gross. They're in that August recess.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: You know, because they earned vacation. It's so crazy. It's
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: so crazy to me. Now, Todd Blanche is in place,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: which is good news. He's basically still in place. The
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: only thing that really changed is his title. He went
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  Speaker 1: from acting attorney general to full-time attorney general. But now
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that he's got the job and now that he doesn't
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: have Thom Tillis and John Cornyn and bitter Bill Cassidy
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So now we got Todd Blanche. He's an attorney general. Congrats, Todd.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: You earned it, brother. Appreciate you being there. He's done
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: good work in that capacity. Now, what could he do
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: with the job? Well, how about this? What if he
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: prosecuted Anthony Fauci? Anthony Fauci was just referred this past
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: week to the United States Department of Justice for contempt
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of Congress. He's been held in contempt of Congress by
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, voted to
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  Speaker 1: hold him in contempt of Congress. And they referred him
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: for criminal prosecution now. Because Anthony Fauci has been obstructing
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: a lawful, legitimate, constitutional, congressional investigation. Let's prosecute him. Let's
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: go for it. Let's test it. This is a big
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: opportunity for Todd Blanch to begin writing at least some
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: of the wrongs. Although, in fairness to the Justice Department,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: they've already prosecuted Anthony Fauci's top lieutenant. But why don't
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: we go for the little dog, the diminutive big dog,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci? Go after that guy. Boy, does he deserve it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: How about going after him? That would be a useful
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: act as the Attorney General of the United States. And
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: in fact, the evidence against Anthony Fauci is only growing.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Did you see this news about Anthony? And we'll get
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: to this coming up with our great guest. Jay Bhattacharya
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: is going to join us here in a few minutes.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: But you see this horrific news that Anthony Fauci, this
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: is not shocking, but it is appalling. Anthony Fauci knew
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that babies were getting slaughtered by the COVID jab, but
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: he refused to tell the public. We know this thanks
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: to Senator Ron Johnson and Senator Rand Paul, who just
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: got a hold of these text messages and shared them
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: with the public.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Dr.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Fauci was so concerned in January 2021 that the second
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: dose of the COVID shot quote, theoretically could be associated
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: with miscarriage in the first trimester. Senator Rand Paul and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I released the text between Anthony Fauci, Rochelle Walensky, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Vivek Murthy below. While I've been conducting oversight for years,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: now that we have the documents in Fauci's government-issued phone,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: my investigation has only just begun. And here's the message
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: from Fauci. He says, quote, I asked around a bit
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: more and another issue came up that you need to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: be aware of. Since many people have significant cytokines storm
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and fever after the second dose, this theoretically could be
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: associated with miscarriage in the first trimester. Now, he says
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: this January 25th, 2021. This is when Joe Biden is
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: president of the United States. Anthony Fauci is his top
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: COVID stooge. And he's admitting privately, he's like, guys, I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: think we could be killing kids at scale here. And
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: yet he never said anything about this in public. not
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a word about this. In fact, Vivek Murthy said the
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: same thing. Vivek Murthy was the surgeon general under Biden.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: And here's what he said in private. Bill Malusian captures
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: these text messages in which he says, this is really helpful. Thanks.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I've been hearing the concern about the mRNA causing mutations
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: in the developing fetus as well. That's a really good
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: point regarding the cytokine storm post-second dose. And then another one, Tony, Rochelle,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: did you see this announcement today from the WHO saying
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: they advise against pregnant women taking the Moderna vaccine because
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: of lack of data? It has led to a flurry
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: of questions. What is your take? I imagine we will
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: all get asked about this. So now, if this was
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: actual science, they would be having this conversation in public.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: They'd be saying what they know, what they don't know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: what the weaknesses are, what the risks are. You notice,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: by the way, just to take you back in time,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: That every other drug on the market that's advertised on
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the free market, like you see a television ad, it
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: includes a never-ending series of side effects. Side effects include.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And then they give you a sing-song voice where they
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: tell you all these awful things that could happen to you.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: You notice that the COVID jab never had that? In fact,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: your tax dollars were used to advertise the COVID jab
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: without any side effects being disclosed. You remember all of this?
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, the big... COVID jab companies were
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: all given immunity from any sort of litigation. The whole
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: thing was one gigantic, corrupt, and totally atypical scheme. And
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: these guys are hiding data about the deaths of children?
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: In fact, the data is really shocking because not only
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: were they hiding the fact that these children were at risk, they,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: inside of the data, we find out Katie Pavlich has
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: this that the miscarriage rates were catastrophic for women in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: their first trimester. For the babies, the women are miscarrying,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the babies are dying. Here's what Katie Pavlich writes. The
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: mandated and doctor-recommended COVID-19 shot for pregnant women was effectively
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: an abortion shot, according to new documents just released by
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Senators Johnson and Paul. The authors claimed a miscarriage rate
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: of 12.6%, but the raw data revealed an 82% miscarriage
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: rate in women who were vaccinated during the first trimester.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: This is consistent with the 81% miscarriage rate noted in
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the Pfizer 5.3.6 post-market data. These figures mirror the effects
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of chemical abortion drugs, such as RU486. You know, what
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: were the officials saying about this? Were they admitting the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: risk here? Were they saying, hey, look, there are things
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: we don't know. Maybe you should be cautious. Or were
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: they telling every pregnant woman to get the jab no
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: matter what? Well, I don't know. Here's Rochelle Walensky. This
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: is Vigilant Fox pulling this clip. And this also looks
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: like it's from Real America's Voice in the War Room
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: pulling this. Thank you to all of them for referencing this. Here's...
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Here's the clip of Rochelle Walensky and what she had
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: to say in September of 2021. Is it safe to
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: get vaccinated while you're breastfeeding? It absolutely is safe to
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: get vaccinated. So I would say if you are thinking
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: about getting vaccinated, there is no bad time to get vaccinated.
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  Speaker 1: Get vaccinated while you're thinking about having a baby, before
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  Speaker 1: no bad time. There's no bad time to murder your child.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: was the message from the Biden administration. But they wouldn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: acknowledge that that's what was actually happening. More in a
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: moment with Vivek, excuse me, with our great guest, Jay Bhattacharya. Vivek, boy,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: can you imagine if we had him on? Jay Bhattacharya
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: is going to join us here in a moment. We'll
• 27:37
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• 27:43
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  Speaker 1: Let me welcome to the program now the great Jay Bhattacharya.
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  Speaker 1: He's the director of the National Institutes of Health, former
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  Speaker 1: he was right about COVID. quite famously, which is why
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  Speaker 1: As always, Jay, great to have you back on the show, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to be back, Vince.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me start with what I was just talking about,
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  Speaker 1: this data that shows that the COVID jab in the
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  Speaker 1: first trimester apparently had devastating effects on on unborn children.
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  Speaker 1: And yet this data, somehow it was entirely kept from us.
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  Speaker 1: And Anthony Fauci and all these other people, they knew
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  Speaker 1: about it. They were talking amongst themselves about it, but
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  Speaker 1: they refused to acknowledge it to the public. What do
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  Speaker 1: you make of this?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was irresponsible. Just full stop. I think
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  Speaker 2: that when you have a new product like that COVID
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  Speaker 2: vaccine was in I think there were those texts for
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: January 2021. And you're an official who has worked very
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  Speaker 2: hard to get those products on the market. Even if
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  Speaker 2: you aren't, you're a top sort of public health person
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  Speaker 2: who's everyone's advice, you're looking for advice. You have an
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: obligation to share your honest thoughts about potential harms to
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: people that might take the thing. And instead what they
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  Speaker 2: did is they were reflecting the scientific debate that was
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: happening at the time around the COVID vaccine for kids
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: and for pregnant women privately. But publicly, they exuded a
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: confidence that they did not deserve to have regarding its
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: safety for those populations. For me, when I was looking
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  Speaker 2: at it back then, I was thinking, you know, COVID
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  Speaker 2: is a really damaging disease for older people, really high
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: rates of death. And The balance for me made sense
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: for older people that if you can prevent death, maybe
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: there's some side effects, but they might be worth it
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: to prevent death from COVID for old people. And for
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: young people and for pregnant women, we should have been
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: far more careful. In fact, I articulated that and got
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: all kinds of grief for it in 2021. But then
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: it went beyond that, Vince. They also went all in
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: on mandates. They pushed very hard that every single person
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: should be vaccinated with a COVID vaccine irresponsibly, when we
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: now know privately they harbored doubts regarding the safety of
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: those products, or at least the balance of risks and
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: harms for those products for pregnant women and potentially even
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: for children. It was just irresponsible of them not to
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: reflect that in their public utterance.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Well, and I would say not just irresponsible, but downright tyrannical.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you are having a real robust scientific
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: debate amongst yourselves, but not acknowledging to the public on
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: which you are imposing all of these impositions, like COVID
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: jabs and losing jobs and destroying lives and killing unborn children.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is tyrannical behavior. And it worries me
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: that this was considered kind of normal inside of the government,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: that people are like, that you would have a debate
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: like this, but then not acknowledge it to the people
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: who are supposed to be in charge, which is the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: voting public.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Vince, it was even worse. The Biden administration, what they
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: did is they systematically went out into social media and
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: other advertisers of shows like yours, and they would say,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: if you amplify these doubts, we're going to censor you.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: We're going to destroy your company. So I was shadow
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: banned in Twitter, basically blacklisted on Twitter. The day I joined,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I believe, based on the pressure of the Biden administration,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: going to the old Twitter before Elon, saying, look, if
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: you don't shadow ban these ideas, not me specifically, but
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: these ideas, we're going to destroy you as a company.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: The Biden administration went to Facebook and literally forced them
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: to suppress private messaging groups regarding vaccine injury to the
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: COVID vaccine. Yes. Again, with threatening their company if they
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: didn't comply. That kind of censorship, I can't even imagine
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: what was going through their heads. They must have thought
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: that they were so morally justified in pushing the COVID
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: vaccine for everybody that it was worth violating the First Amendment. Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: And if we'd had the First Amendment, the public could
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: have seen that robust scientific debate you're talking about. The
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: result would have been so much different, so much better,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I think, Because I think when we allow the public
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: to see how we scientists are arguing with each other,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: that gives a more honest reflection of what the reality
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: is than the, you know, I am the top guru
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: of all science and you must listen to me.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: How deeply embedded, when you arrived at NIH, how deeply
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: embedded was this worldview, would you say? This idea that like, hey,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: we are the science and the public better listen to us.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: What have you found and what have you had to
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: deal with?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: You know, that's been the heartbreaking thing because I don't
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: believe most scientists are like that, Vince. Most scientists want
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: an honest conversation about the data. I mean, we go
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: into science because we don't know the answers to all
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: the questions. We discover the answers in the context of
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: learning from looking at data, arguing with other scientists about
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: how to interpret it, asking for new experiments. That process
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: is what brings people into science to begin with. And
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: the vast majority of people at NIH are like that.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: They want that. It was the leadership. of some parts
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: of the NIH that embrace this sort of almost authoritarian
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: view of what science should be, this top-down, I am
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: the science and I know best and therefore you should
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: listen to me, that is actually antithetical to science. Most
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: people at the NIH are not like that, Vince. And
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: to me, that's been one of the, I mean, I
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: already knew that to some extent because I have so
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: many good colleagues in the NIH before I became director
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: of it. It's a really great place that has resulted
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: in countless advances that have benefited the lives of millions
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: and basically billions of people. And it will continue to
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: So was the staff horrified by the leadership then? In
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: other words, there's a lot of good people there, you said.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: It's like a Stockholm syndrome.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. I mean, it's like a Stockholm syndrome. What
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: you have is people who, you know, they understand what
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: the leadership is asking of them. And so it's hard
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: to speak up in that context. You could get fired.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Your career as a scientist could be over. I mean,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: the former head of the NIH actually wrote an email
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: to Tony Fauci calling for a devastating takedown of me,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: my colleagues from Harvard and Oxford at the time when
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: we argued against lockdowns. Under that kind of abusive leadership,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: you're going to get people who just clam up silent when,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: in fact, they have scientific doubts. I think that's the problem.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: To my mind, it was that leadership that took on
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: this sort of godlike capacity to make decisions for millions
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: of other people rather than letting the scientific process play out.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Most scientists want the scientific process to play out because
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: that's how we learn. That's how we get to truth.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: So speaking of the scientific process, I saw that recently
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: the Trump administration has banished this very dangerous gain-of-function research
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: the federal funding for gain of function research in order
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: to make viruses more deadly and infectious to humans. And
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Jay, but there's never been
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: a time that we've truly established that this gain of
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: function research has resulted in a net benefit for humanity.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: It's always been like crazy lab leaks and peril and death.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: And at some point you're like, well, let's stop doing that.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: It's actually the definition of insanity for us to keep
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: doing this. So the Trump administration is ending this. What
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: can you tell me about that?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've helped with this process, and now we
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: have a policy that will make sure that we don't
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: ever fund this dangerous kind of work again. In 2010
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: or 2011, there was a big debate going on in
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the scientific community whether we should be allowing scientists to
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: make viruses more dangerous. The argument in favor, which was
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: favored by Tony Fauci and Francis Collins, then the former
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: head of the NIH, said that, look, the knowledge we
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: gain from this will be worth it, even if there
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: is a risk of lab leak. In fact, there were
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: an op-ed in the Washington Post with that literal sentence,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: or very close to that sentence, in it. And the
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: argument was that we could predict which virus is going
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: to make the leap, and then we can develop vaccines
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: and countermeasures in advance. I agree with you. There's no
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: evidence that there's a single bit of human benefit that
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: has come from this research. Just the analogy I'd give
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: is to.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: The beginning of the nuclear age. Enrico Fermi, brilliant physicist,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: launched the nuclear age in 1942 by doing an experiment
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: where he started the first nuclear chain reaction on a
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: squash court in the University of Chicago. He's a brilliant
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: mathematician and physicist. He was worried that if he started
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: this nuclear chain reaction, maybe he couldn't stop it. It
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: would set fire to the world. And so he did
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: a calculation. What is the probability of a catastrophic explosion
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: coming out of this nuclear reaction he started? And he
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: calculated a probability of zero. And then he did the experiment.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Under the new Trump regulation, what happens is every scientist
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: that's going to do a biological experiment is going to
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: be required to do that calculation. Are you taking a
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: risk that will risk the well-being of the entire world?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Can you cancel a pandemic with what you're doing? And
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: if that risk is more than zero, we will not
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: fund that research.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: That's a big deal. Thank you for doing that. Long overdue,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: for sure. And by the way, wasn't Anthony Fauci's involvement
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: in funding gain of function in Wuhan interesting? Wasn't he
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: like using some sort of like creative definition for gain
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: of function in order to justify how he was getting
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: away with this?
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you can see this in the exchange that
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Tony Fauci has with Rand Paul and some of those
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: famous Senate hearings. Yes. The game that Tony Fauci is
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: playing is that he and others had worked on a
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: regulatory process to say, look, if you're working on a
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: list of dangerous, one of these viruses from a list
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: of dangerous viruses, Ebola or something like that. and you're
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: making them more dangerous, then you are doing gain of function.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: But what if you're working on a virus that comes
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: out of a bat cave in China no one's ever
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: heard of that's not on any list, and you make
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: that one more dangerous? Well, that's not dangerous gain of
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: function because it's not on the list. The new idea
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: of how we regulate this is we ask the scientists
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: and we ask the institutions where they work to assess
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the risk of the experiment causing catastrophic harm. whether it
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: comes from a list or not. That is something that
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: scientists who are working in this area are fully capable
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: of doing. And there's going to be an independent body
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: that will oversee it and look and say, well, look,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: you got that calculation wrong. There actually is a risk.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: We're not going to allow you to fund it.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter what you call it. It's about
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: how much is this a risk to humanity.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. It's a very different way of thinking about it.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: And Tony Fauci was using this loophole to fund research
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: in dangerous areas that he shouldn't have funded, frankly. And
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: I think that if we'd had this new regulation in
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: place back then, that research would never have been funded.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Jay Bhattacharya, this weekend you were on CBS with Margaret Brennan,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: where I was not surprised by her treatment of you.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: It was also ridiculous. But she was basically, as I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: understood it from watching the interview, accusing you and the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Trump administration of somehow being responsible for a shooter taking
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: aim at the CDC last year. She's saying that he
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: was guided by vaccine misinformation. Can you take us inside
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: that interview? What was that like sitting there as you're
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: listening to, like, you're being accused of murder, and meanwhile,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you're thinking to yourself, wait a second, misinformation? That's what
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you've been doing.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean... I don't know, I'm not really good
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: at hostile exchanges. So I mean, there's some sense of
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: like frustration I had, because I thought, I just wanted
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: an honest conversation with her. And what she did was
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: exactly what you said, right? There was a very tragic
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: event that happened in the CDC about a year ago,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: where a crazy man decided to start shooting up the CDC.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: And he, you know, I don't really know that it's
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: productive to get in the heads of a crazy man.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: He said things about the vaccines. I have no idea
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: what motivated him to go shoot He went into the
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: childcare center of the CDC to scope out the place
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: the day before he went shooting.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: In other words, there's no justification for murder, which is
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: kind of the point.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was a heroic cop named David Rose,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Officer David Rose, who gave his life protecting the people
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: of the CDC. And so when I became the acting
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: director of the CDC, I ordered that the street that
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: leads into the CDC be named after this officer. And
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: that day was supposed to be a celebration of his life.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: So my last day at the CDC, and I was
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: celebrating his life and his sacrifice. We invited his family
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: to come down. I talked with David Rose's mom. I
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: called his wife a few months before. I mean, it
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: was a somber day because we were celebrating the sacrifice
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: of a heroic man. It should have been about that.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: To accuse Bobby or me or the president of spreading
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: misinformation and causing the shooting is just, it's frankly unhinged.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: So I wasn't sure how to manage that in the moment.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I think the issue is that, and you nailed it,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of the misinformation that was put out regarding
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the COVID vaccinations, the lockdowns, the school closures, natural immunity,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: all of that was promulgated by the government. And the
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Biden administration leaned into that by suppressing any discussion that
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: dissented from the dogmatic opinions that they had. And for
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: whatever reason, Margaret Brennan wouldn't acknowledge that fact. I mean,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: it was just a reality. And somehow, CBS is supposed
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: to promote you know, sort of say what, at the
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: very least, let the public debate happen. She seemed to
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: be taking a particular side on it, and frankly, an
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: unhinged side. Right, sure.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't just the Biden administration. It was their
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: handmaidens in the media that were carrying water on behalf
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: of the Biden administration. So that's how you end up
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: with people taking ivermectin to try and handle this, and
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: then being accused of using horse dewormer like they're psychopaths.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: And that was the media who was doing that water carrying.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: So it's no wonder that the public is absolutely staggered
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: by the number of lies that are coming out of
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: the Biden administration and the media, which is supposed to
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: be scrutinizing the Biden people.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: You know, Vince, the thing is, there's a philosophy here,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: which I entirely oppose, which is that in order to
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: get people to do what you want, what you do
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: is you control what they see and say. That's the
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: philosophy that I think Margaret Bannon has. My philosophy, and
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: this is how we led the NIH and the CDC,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: is let there be public discussion about when there's controversies,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: let people have their say. Science moves slowly. And if
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: you give it an environment where it can grow, that
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: kind of debate is very, very productive. With the NIH now,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I put a policy in of academic freedom, where people
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: are allowed to have those kind of conversations. Do I
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: know the answers to all these questions? The answer is no,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I'm not an expert in every area.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: And just because I believe it as the head of
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: the NIH, therefore it's true. Well, that's ridiculous, Vince. And
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the new NIH, we don't do that, right? We allow
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: the debate and we encourage researchers to focus on the
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: most important problems so that the work of the NIH
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: can actually improve your health and the health of millions
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: of others. It's a very different kind of philosophy. And
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: you saw that play out in that little clip with
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Margaret Bennett I had. You saw that play out all
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: through the through the pandemic. This idea that you must
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: control the information from above, and if you control it,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: good things will happen. I reject that philosophy entirely.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Finally, in terms of placing trust back in the hands
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: of the American people, you had a big announcement yesterday
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: in the Oval Office about the vaccine schedule, saying that
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: parents are not compelled to inject their children with a
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: thousand things at once. Can you tell us what the
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: decision was yesterday and what led to that?
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's a couple of things. So one is
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: the primary thing that led to that is the passion
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: that the president and Bobby and others in the position
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: have that we need to get answers to parents who
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: have autistic kids. Like you see this large rise in autism.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Why is that? We don't know the full answer to that.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: At the NIH, what we've done is we've sponsored science
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: to actually give permission to science to ask that question.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: A lot of scientists are fearful to even ask those
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: questions because what if they get the wrong answer and
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: then they get canceled or some devastating takedown happens? We've
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: turned the page on that. Last year, we started the
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Autism Data Science Initiative, funded 12 major teams to ask.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: And it's a complex biological question. I mean, I'm not
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: going to sugarcoat it. I don't know the answer to it,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: why autism has risen. But I want the answer. And
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I want scientists to do their honest thing to try
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: to figure out the answer. And that's what we've been
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: working at at the NIH. So that was the first
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: part of it. The second part of it, again, philosophically,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the letters you can look at itself. The second part
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: of it is what you emphasized and was right. which
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: is that parents should be able to play a real
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: role in decision making about the health of their kids.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't feel compelled to say, OK, you must take
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: if you if you have worries about the sequencing of
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: how the kids are vaccinated or whatever, you should have
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: some autonomy. And there's a philosophy there. You know, the
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: president has very strong feelings about breaking up the MMR
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: vaccine into three or sequencing so that you sequence out
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: the vaccines in different rates. Different parents have different ideas
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: about this. And many times parents feel like they're compelled to,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: you must do it this way or you're a bad parent. Yes.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: What this EO does, and it's a real important moment
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: in public health, it says, look, that's the wrong way
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: of doing things. We in public health, we in science
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: should be working alongside you as parents, giving you the
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: best advice that we have, best evidence we have, and
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: treat you with respect. And so you can make good
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: decisions for your kids. You know, in Europe, they don't
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: mandate childhood vaccines for the most part. A couple of
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: countries do, but most of them don't. yet their rates
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: of uptake for the basic childhood vaccinations is higher than
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: it is in the United States.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: So two quick things, if I have your time, I
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. The hepatitis B vaccine is always
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: the one that stands out to parents. They're like, why
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: do I need to vaccinate my child against hepatitis B?
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: It's a sexually transmitted disease or something that you get
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: through needle usage. It doesn't even make any sense and
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: yet babies are being forced to get this. I think
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: that's always been one of the standouts where it's like, well,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: wait a second, why am I doing this? Does that
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: strike you as real?
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I mean, imagine a policy where you
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: test the mom for hepatitis B, she's negative, there's no
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: high-risk behaviors. You can wait. I mean, I personally got
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: the hepatitis B vaccine when I first started med school.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: That's when I started, you know, because I get needle
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: sticks potentially, so it's a risk, right? So that made
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: sense for me to wait. I think the idea of
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: one size fits all for every single vaccine. I mean,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I think that's the philosophy that the president's fighting against.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: And I agree with the president on this. I think
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: we should be treating people with respect, communicating clearly what
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: the risks are, and then giving the best scientific evidence
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: there is when you're making the recommendations.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: And then finally, what about pediatricians? Because realistically, you're right,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: parents should be given the choice to be able to
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: make these decisions for their kids ultimately. But a lot
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: of parents, which makes sense, they trust their pediatrician on this.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: The pediatrician is going to be like, hey, you should
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: do this. This is good for the kid. What about
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: that relationship? Are pediatricians under some sort of immense pressure
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: to jab these kids a thousand times or are they
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: going to be liberated to use actual science now?
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think, I mean, I generally, as
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: a general matter, I have a lot of respect for
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: doctors and especially the doctor-patient relationship I view as sacred.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: And so a good doctor won't let that happen, right?
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: They'll give you their honest idea. What we've seen in
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the last few years is that we've seen pressure from
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: groups like the American Academy of Pediatrics on pediatricians to
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: toe the party line, if you will. And it's just
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: really counterproductive. The emphasis from these groups should be to
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: empower physicians to walk alongside their patients and help them
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: make good decisions instead of saying, we must do this.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: In California, there was a law that Governor Newsom signed
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: called AB 2098 that actually said to doctors, if you
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: step outside this party line, you can lose your license.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: That fortunately was overturned by the courts. But that kind
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: of philosophy is essentially destroys the doctor-patient relationship. It puts
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: doctors and patients in a very difficult place because doctors
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: then have to say, if I violate the party line,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: am I going to lose my license? And patients are
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: going to say, do I trust my doctor? Are they
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: acting on my behalf or on someone else's behalf? It's
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: a very bad place to be. I think with this
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: new EO, I mean, it's going to take time, but
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: we've started to turn the page toward a, I hope,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: a more healthy relationship between patients and doctors.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you for restoring science. The Director of National
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  Speaker 1: Institutes of Health, Jay Bhattacharya, thank you for your time
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  Speaker 1: this morning, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Ben. It's always good to talk. All right.
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  Speaker 1: There's Jay Bhattacharya. I think I took him a little long,
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  Speaker 1: so I appreciate his patience with me today. I just
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: have so many questions about what's going on in the
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  Speaker 1: world and the efforts to try and fix these things up.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you again to Jay for being with us today, Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Bhattacharya.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Let us move on to the socialists now,
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  Speaker 1: because I've got to talk to you about these psychopaths
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  Speaker 1: and what they're up to. This is super important. Last week,
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  Speaker 1: one of the other things that I wasn't here for
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  Speaker 1: was this election in Michigan of El-Sayed. So this guy,
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  Speaker 1: what's his name again? Abdul Rahman Mohammed El-Sayed is now
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  Speaker 1: the Democrat nominee for United States Senate in Michigan. And
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  Speaker 1: how is it that he got this job? How did
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  Speaker 1: the socialist guy win this contest? And the answer is, well,
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  Speaker 1: won by the skin of his teeth. He won by
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  Speaker 1: a point. There was some thought process that he was
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  Speaker 1: going to win by some massive margin. He did not
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: win by a massive margin. He won by a point.
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  Speaker 1: But in so doing, who voted for him? Who voted
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  Speaker 1: for this guy? And the answer is college-educated liberals. College-educated
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  Speaker 1: libs are the ones who are voting for these socialists.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I want to bring you to a woman
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  Speaker 1: by the name of Frances Gill. Frances Gill is a
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  Speaker 1: part of the leadership of the Democrat Socialists of America.
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  Speaker 1: She is. And here she is, cut eight, talking about
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  Speaker 1: how it's college-educated liberals, Democrats, who keep voting for all
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  Speaker 1: of these socialists across the country. And once you understand
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  Speaker 1: this component of the rise of the socialists, everything really
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  Speaker 1: starts to make sense. Watch this. Cut eight.
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  Speaker 2: Watch.
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  Speaker 3: Abdul Al-Sayed's victory in the Democratic primary in the Senate
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  Speaker 3: in Michigan. Of the 15 counties where a majority do
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  Speaker 3: not have a college degree, he lost every one of them,
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  Speaker 3: over 15. In the counties with high education, like you,
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  Speaker 3: he won. So how can you say you're for the
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  Speaker 3: working class when working class counties in Detroit and elsewhere
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  Speaker 3: voted against your candidate?
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  Speaker 5: I think what we're seeing is that people who are
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  Speaker 5: highly educated in this country were promised this path of
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  Speaker 5: economic success. If you go to college, if you get
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  Speaker 5: the degree, if you go down that path, you're going
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  Speaker 5: to be guaranteed economic success. But really what we're seeing
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  Speaker 5: is that there's this huge downward mobility problem. where people
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  Speaker 5: are putting in the money, taking out hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 5: of dollars of student loans. You know, I have a
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  Speaker 5: half a million dollars in student loan debt personally, and
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  Speaker 5: not seeing that translate into actual economic success because our society,
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  Speaker 5: the scales are so tipped in one direction to benefit
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  Speaker 5: the rich and the wealthy.
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  Speaker 1: Half a million dollars? In student loan debt? She has
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  Speaker 1: half a million freaking dollars in student loan debt? First
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  Speaker 1: of all, what lenders are continuing to give money to
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  Speaker 1: the socialist lady with no sign of any economic success
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  Speaker 1: going into the future? Half a million dollars? And you
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  Speaker 1: listen to the way she talks about this. If I
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  Speaker 1: take out massive amounts of loans to go to college
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  Speaker 1: to get a left-wing education, I will have guaranteed, she said,
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed economic success. That's what I was promised. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't have that. Therefore, I'm a socialist now. Do you
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  Speaker 1: understand the series of events that have occurred here? And
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  Speaker 1: they all involve the destructive force of Democrats in the
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  Speaker 1: American political system. So it's Democrats that are running most
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  Speaker 1: of these institutions of higher education in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: It's Democrats that are saying everybody needs to go to college.
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  Speaker 1: It's Democrats that are underwriting that college experience through massive
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  Speaker 1: amounts of federal subsidies. It's Democrats who've created this entire
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  Speaker 1: corrupt and inefficient and useless system. And so the kids
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  Speaker 1: are taking out massive loans, massive loans, half a million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. You know, the average U.S. college student right
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  Speaker 1: now is taking out $ 43, 000, not half a million, $ 43, 000
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  Speaker 1: a person. In other words, they're starting their careers, $ 43, 000
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  Speaker 1: in the hole. And what did they get out of
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  Speaker 1: that education? That they're more educated than everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: And what?
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  Speaker 1: They're educated in left-wing propaganda. They go to school. They
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  Speaker 1: become more socialist. They're told that that's preferable to capitalism.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, if you look at the survey data on
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  Speaker 1: this subject, let me show you this report from Axios.
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  Speaker 1: This just came out a couple weeks ago. Poll. College
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  Speaker 1: students prefer socialism to capitalism. Socialism beats capitalism among U.S.
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  Speaker 1: college students in a new Axios Generation lab poll. Again, remember,
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  Speaker 1: these are supposedly kids that are going to school because
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  Speaker 1: they want to get an education so that they can
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  Speaker 1: join the free market and compete in it and make
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of money. That's what you would normally think.
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  Speaker 1: But instead, they're going to these institutions. They're being trained
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  Speaker 1: to become socialists. They're leaving with $ 43, 000 in debt on average.
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  Speaker 1: And then they're upset that they can't become gainfully employed
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  Speaker 1: in a world where they have no marketable skills. 67%
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  Speaker 1: of survey respondents say that they hold a positive or
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  Speaker 1: neutral association with the word socialism, compared with just 40%
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  Speaker 1: who say the same about capitalism. The data continues. 34%
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  Speaker 1: of surveyed two- and four-year college students say they have
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  Speaker 1: a somewhat or very positive view of socialism. 17% say
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  Speaker 1: the same about capitalism. Negative views of capitalism outweigh negative
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  Speaker 1: views of socialism by an even greater degree, 53 to 23.
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  Speaker 1: There's a stark partisan difference, 47% of Democrat respondents and
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  Speaker 1: 31% of independents, but just 5% of Republicans react positively
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  Speaker 1: to socialism. 45% of Republicans but just 17% of independents
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  Speaker 1: and 7% of Democrats have positive reactions to capitalism. Of
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  Speaker 1: the overall respondents, 46% identify as Democrats, 14% as Republicans,
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  Speaker 1: and 40% as independents. All right, I want you to
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  Speaker 1: understand the data here. Look at this. They surveyed thousands
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  Speaker 1: of college students across the country. They only found that
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  Speaker 1: 14% of them said they were Republicans. The rest were
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  Speaker 1: Democrats and so-called independents, which means, I would say invariably, Commies, socialists,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these so-called independents are people who think
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  Speaker 1: that the Democrat Party is not radical enough for them
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  Speaker 1: to identify themselves as Democrats. And so the college system
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  Speaker 1: is churning out these little socialists who have massive amounts
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  Speaker 1: of debt underwritten by the American taxpayer, and they're coming
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  Speaker 1: out going, you know, we need more of power. We
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  Speaker 1: need more taxpayer dollars. We need our debt to be
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  Speaker 1: wiped out. Remember when Biden tried to forgive everybody's college debt,
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  Speaker 1: forgive meaning put the bill on you, whether or not
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  Speaker 1: you went to college? Remember that? That was all a
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  Speaker 1: campaign stunt. It was all to suck up to the socialists,
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  Speaker 1: the kids who've been trained within school to be socialists,
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  Speaker 1: the kids who have this massive debt that they can't
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  Speaker 1: pay for because they can't get real jobs using the
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  Speaker 1: nonsense that they've been taught inside of these schools. It's
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  Speaker 1: all one gigantic self-licking ice cream cone. It is a
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  Speaker 1: means for power for the left. We are seeing the
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  Speaker 1: poisonous fruit of all of those efforts right now. And
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  Speaker 1: these socialists, they're not for working people. They're not for
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  Speaker 1: the kinds of people who are working their asses off,
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  Speaker 1: who didn't go to college, who are fighting for every
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  Speaker 1: last dollar, who are using their hands for a living.
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  Speaker 1: It's not for those people. They pretend like they are.
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  Speaker 1: They pretend like it's not for them. It never was
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  Speaker 1: about them. It was always about these pampered, useless kids
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  Speaker 1: who got trainings in socialism and not in any marketable skill.
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  Speaker 1: That's the unfortunate reality of all of this. You know
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  Speaker 1: how much college debt there is right now? And this
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  Speaker 1: is a big deal. The college debt actually matters. You
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  Speaker 1: know how much college debt there is? There is more
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  Speaker 1: college debt in the United States right now than there
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  Speaker 1: is credit card debt. We are approaching $ 2 trillion in
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: college debt right now. That people are taking out student loans,
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  Speaker 1: approaching $ 2 trillion. In the very same moment, the latest
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: data on credit card debt, $ 1. 25 trillion in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: So in other words, Americans have more student loan debt
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  Speaker 1: than they have credit card debt. Did you know that?
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  Speaker 1: Nearly $ 2 trillion compared to 1.25. Now, credit card debt
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  Speaker 1: is already huge. It should not be that high. That
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  Speaker 1: is not a good sign for the economy, that people
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  Speaker 1: can't make it paycheck to paycheck. They're living off of
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  Speaker 1: credit cards. That doesn't work. You have to stop that.
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  Speaker 1: You have to drop that dramatically. But one way to
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  Speaker 1: do that is to not have other debts, not to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: be in massive college debt. That's a crisis. So you
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: want to fix the affordability problem. You want to get
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  Speaker 1: to a place where Americans are flourishing. You want to
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  Speaker 1: tackle socialism. Tackling the crisis in higher education and the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: government's role in it should be a number, a top
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: tier priority. Right there, up there with deporting illegal aliens
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  Speaker 1: from the United States and securing our borders. Restoring America,
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  Speaker 1: making it great again, means having real institutions of higher learning,
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  Speaker 1: not putting people into paralyzing debt and not training them
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  Speaker 1: to become socialists who then leave school and then vote
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  Speaker 1: for whack jobs like El-Sayed because they want to take
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  Speaker 1: more money from taxpayers rather than to produce something for
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  Speaker 1: themselves and their country. Does that make sense? I hope so,
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  Speaker 1: because the closer you look at this, the more it
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  Speaker 1: begins to make a lot of sense. This has been
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  Speaker 1: a part of a long-running effort of the left, and
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  Speaker 1: these are the poisonous fruits of their efforts. I've got
• 1:01:35
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