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UK Column News Podcast 3rd July 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, third of July twenty twenty four, just after
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one o'clock. Welcome to the UK, call them News and your house make
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Robinson joining me in the studio today. We're back in the studio. Charles
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Mallett, thank you, Mike good oftenoon All and Vanessa Billy from Damascus will
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get started with the general election, and we'll just want to begin by saying
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good luck to everybody that's standing as an independent. We've put Andrew Bridging on
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here as being possibly the most well known independent, but nonetheless lots of people
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standing is independence. And also good luck to anybody standing in some of the
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smaller parties that generally don't get any media coverage whatsoever. And we'll see how
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that goes tomorrow. Nobody is holding out for a terribly satisfactory results across the
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board. You know, no matter who wins, whether it's a Tory or
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Labor, we know who it's likely to be. But in Northern Ireland the
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issue is around the dup, of course. And here is sir what's his
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name? Hike Godness, I can I have Jeffrey Donaldson. Thank you,
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Sir Geoffrey Donaldson, who is back in court today on allegations of abusing well
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sexual impropriety, let's put it that way. And his wife also in court
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on charges of aiding and a betting, and this of course leaves up in
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a bit of trouble and we wait to see what the result of that is
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going to be. Meanwhile, in France, of course, what have we
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got over there? We've got Marie Lepenn apparently on the verge of success.
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So Macron called this snap election because of what happened at the European parliamentary elections.
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But it seems that the French electorate not so happy with them, so
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they obviously although it was inconclusive in the first marine Le Penn was very successful
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at that wasn't decisive, but that continues. But this, I just thought
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this tweet Charles was fantastic from Kenneth ross Ad stake in the French and US
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elections are the defense of Ukraine's democratic future from Putin's colonial invasion and with it
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the prospects for democracy in Europe. The far right has a different plan and
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I had to respond to this on Twitter by saying, yeah, peace,
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because you know, it is an incredible situation that now if you are pro
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peace, you're labeled as far right, and you're apparently feared by the mainstream.
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Absolutely, that's completely the way it's gone, and it will continue to
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go I think. I mean it's relentless. Yes, So we'll see what
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the result is tomorrow or sorry, we'll see what the result is on Friday.
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But the voting taking place tomorrow and hopefully Andrew Bridging will succeed, as
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will many of the other indo. But in the meantime, as we talked
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about earlier on just after the election was called, there was a wash up
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and legislation and so on. But it's not just legislations affected by the election,
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no, it's not. And in addition to talking about independents and the
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struggles that they face, we've talked about the systemic issues which restrict what we
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might consider to be the democratic process. We'll just go through the wash up
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as it is described by Parliament, by the House of Commons, which in
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effect means that certain bits of legislation that were in Parliament are effectively scratched.
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And here we see that on the prorogation of Parliament on the twenty fourth,
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there were just two days for a wash up so rather than looking at what
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did get through, we'll look at what didn't. And of course on the
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government side, which is of significance, Criminal Justice Bill therefore hanging in the
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balance and effectively has been wiped off the slate for now, and just a
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reminder that contained things about nuisance begging and certain prevention orders which we've spoken about
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many times before. On the Private member's bill side, again things we've touched
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on in the past, the Disestablishment of the Church of England Bill, which
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will come on to contextualize later, the Fetal Sentience Committee Bill again which was
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hijacked by the pro abortion lobby, the Police Declaration Bill, essentially trying to
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create a situation by which police would have to declare membership of and affiliations to
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certain societies, the sites of special scientific interest concerning natural England in particular.
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And then of course the Holocaust Memorial Bill, which is worth noting because it's
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a hybrid bill and therefore because of its status as a hybrid bill, it
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says that on the twenty second and May, or rather sorry, after the
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motion on twenty second and May, the bill could be reintroduced in the new
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Parliament. Well. Now, given the airtime and the influence behind it.
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I would suggest that absolutely it will be seen again. And a reminder on
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the petitions front that if you have start a petition or signed a petition to
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the government, a reminder that that has all been wiped as well, so
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we'll have to be started again after the election. Now, the other thing
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we've talked about, of course is the nature of information, and in particular
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I've talked about offcom and the Electoral Commission, the process by which independent candidates
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are in effect suppressed and pushed out of media space and indeed the public space.
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So it is an information war. And on that front, i'd highlight
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a report just published by Global Witness in which they say that an investigation reveals
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content hosted by bot like accounts on x has been seen one hundred and fifty
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million times ahead of the UK elections, and they think this is cause for
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concern. Now I've titled this slide what about AI because they say that when
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the conversation we're seeing online isn't authentic because it comes from bots accounts run by
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computers that have been programmed to look like humans, then there is cause for
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huge concern. Now, the reason, of course I've the reference to AI
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is that in every other arena, in effect, we are being told repeatedly
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the content that is created by humans for computers to operate, supposedly, generatively
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and independently, is absolutely the thing that we do want. And yet,
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of course in this situation, they are choosing to take the opposite line.
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Now, scratching the surface and finding out where Global Witnesses influences, funding and
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alliances come from, we'll just have a quick look at some of those that
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are involved now. Simon Taylor, co founder of Global Witness, also involved
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and in the launch in two thousand and two with George Soros and other ens
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including Transparency International and Save the Children Fund. And then we've got Patrick Alli,
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another co founder involved, or at least as a former president, described
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by a former president of the Open Society Foundations as somebody who's helped bring together
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issues of human rights, corruption, the trade in natural resources and so forth.
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And then we've got Fatima Hassan who's South African human rights lawyer, but
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she led the Open Society Foundation for South Africa for six years, which of
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course is associated with Soros. Now, as if to prove my point that
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Global Witness is in effect a tool of censorship. I put a video on
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x Twitter this morning and Kenny, who knows more about tech than I ever,
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will put it into the Google Gemini AI program and asked it to do
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something for him well, and asking it to summarize and read a little bit
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of context for it exactly so, and highlighted in read there it says that
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it removed the mention of Soros funding to avoid perpetual, perpetuating conspiracy theories,
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and it shortened the sentence about social media censorship. Now, I never suggested
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anything other than the fact there was a link between Soros and the Open Society
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Foundations and Global Witness, which is evident on their website. Now this takes
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us towards which of course is to be regulating this space and other spaces besides.
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So just a reminder really of the part about the funding of offcom and
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e who pays the piper calls the tune. So, as they state in
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this article, we want to address some misunderstandings about how we're funded. Contrary
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to what some people think, Ofcom is not funded directly by taxpayers or the
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government. Most of offcom's funding comes from fees paid to us by the companies
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we regulate. Now, you will have watched enough UK column news about the
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MHRRA to know that that is not a sensible system to get people to mark
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their own homework. But nonetheless, that is in fact how offcom is structured.
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So we look at something from their annual reports. They say strengthening offcom
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for the future. I say strengthening censorship and they say that to develop our
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understanding of the technologies used to deliver online services. As we prepare to regulate
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online safety, it remains a priority to stay ahead of industry changes and to
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ensure this, they've invested in learning and development and conducted specialist recruitment. Now
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what would that mean, Well, it means that they're going to deepen their
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understanding of the technology industries. They've hired colleagues from Meta, Google and bodies
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such as the Internet Watch Foundation and NSPCC. In October twenty twenty one,
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we welcomed a new chief technology officer from Amazon with a brief to oversee the
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growth of our technology, data engineering, and analytics functions. So, given
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the background to this, and as discussed at the start, the suppression that
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we've seen of particularly independent candidates it seems more clear and more likely than ever
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that regardless of the result of the general election result, it will be the
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corporate and supernational influences upon the new government that will continue to push the censorship
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mechanism, control mechanism and all the measures that come with it in the same
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direction. But of course we wait and see exactly how that's going to manifest.
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Indeed, now on the subject of censorship, on the subject of trust,
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because trust is very closely linked to censorship, the lower of the trust
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in the social and sorry in the mainstream media, then the more censorship of
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alternative narratives goes on. Well, somebody, quite a nuther of people were
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pushing a report by Statistic around the social media over the last couple of days.
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This was from June the twenty eighth, and the question is where do
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people distrust news media? And this is from Floren's aunt, and he's saying
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the rise of missing disinformation on social media and increasing perception of bias and the
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reporting of legacy legacy media outlet's has led to trust in media institutions declining over
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the past years. As a result, Statistic Consumer Inside survey of thirty eight
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countries shows whether people trust or distrust the media, and how it differs by
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a geographical region. So let's just bring their graph on screens that we can
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have a look at this, and this is where the people brackets dis trust
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news media share of respondents who don't trust mainstream media in their country of residents.
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And they're showing that the UK, the United States, parts of South
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America, Australia, India are sitting around the sixteen to twenty percent of people
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not trusting the mainstream news media, in Canada, in Brazil, in South
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Africa, parts of Europe, Republic of Ireland, China it's around the ten
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to fifteen percent. France is doing pretty well there at twenty one to twenty
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seven percent according to this particular survey. And they're saying one, this is
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one thousand to ten thousand online respondents eighteen to sixty four years per country,
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surveyed between April twenty twenty three and March twenty twenty four. So that's what
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they're saying, But that those statistics to me seemed a bit low based on
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what we'd seen in many other similar surveys over the years, So maybe they
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should have statistic should have done some looking at their own data from previous years.
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So let's bring this one on screen. News consumers with a great deal
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or quite a lot of confidence in the press in the United Kingdom as of
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September twenty twenty two by generation, and we see that the percentage of pre
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war So that's people in there, I suppose seventies and idies now who have
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quite a lot or a great deal of confidence in the press. In the
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UK, it's only twenty five percent, and it goes down to five percent
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once we get the generation Z or gen Z. So you know, that
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doesn't seem to quite tally. I mean, I appreciate the ones looking at
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distrust and the others looking at a great dealer or quite a lot of confidence,
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but still the figure seemed to be quite there's quite a bit of disparity
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there. And then if we look at the press gazette. Now this is
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from twenty twenty three, the UK has the second lowest level of trust in
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press in survey of twenty four countries. Only Egypt reported lower levels of trust
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in press than the UK. So this was from March twenty twenty three,
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and when they updated this in January twenty twenty four, trust in media UK
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drops the last place in Edelman survey of twenty eight nations. The annual survey
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asked how many people trust the media to do what is right? So I
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would suggest that the the graphic that's being center around social media at the moment
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on statistic is vastly underestimating the levels of distrust in the mainstream press that we
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have in the UK and across the world, particularly the Western world. And
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there are many other sets of data that might be a bit more accurate on
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this, but anyway, we'll talk more about this an extra no doubt.
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Now let's move on. Then we mentioned Egypt there Finessa, Let's welcome you
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to the program, and well, what is going on in Egypt at the
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moment? Well, many things going on in Egypt, but I'm going to
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focus today on basically the EU debt quagmire that Egypt is being put into.
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So report in the last couple of days from Politico EU finalizers up to one
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billion in aid to Egypt as part of a migration deal, and similar deals
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were made with Genesia, Oritania and Turkey took curb immigration from the Zionis genocide
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in the occupied territories and in Gaza into Europe. We saw a very similar
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affair, of course, during the regime change war in Syria and the migration
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process from Syria into Europe, which was being basically damned as in putting an
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obstacle by Turkey. So I apologize for this very creepy photograph of our favorite
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Bonda Lion on the left meeting with President Ceci and Caira a couple of days
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ago. And why am I comparing it to Vonderlyon and Zelensky, Because in
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my opinion, Egypt is rapidly heading towards becoming the Ukraine of West Asia.
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It is absolutely mired in debt. So the EU on Saturday finalized a deal
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for the disbursement of up to one billion. The overall fund that is being
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given by the EU to Egypt is above seven billion, but this is basically
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macro financial assistance within their partnership geared at curbing irregular migration and boosting the North
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Africa country's economy. Signed a memorandum of understanding for the financing during the EU
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Egypt Investment Conference in Cira that included President abdolfat LCCI and European Commissioned President on
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the Lion, and if we look at what they're actually going to be investing
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in. As I said, compare this to Ukraine, where, of course
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much of Ukraine's resources and industry has been taken over by foreign investors. The
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Egypt partnership has been strongly criticized by human rights groups. You see it as
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another EU cash for migrant control deal. The macro financial assistance of up to
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one billion will provide a total of up to five billion in favorable loans to
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Egypt. The agreed policy actions covers three pillars, promoting macroeconomic stability, improving
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the business environment, enhancing Egypt's competitiveness, and supporting Egypt's green transition. They
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also signed the Green Sustainable Industry Program supported by thirty million EU grant, the
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help Egyptian industry to invest in pollution reduction, decarbonization, energy and resource efficiency,
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and three financing agreements worth a total of thirty six million as part of
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bilateral corporate programs. But then let's have a look at Egypt's entire debts.
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So total debt is one hundred and sixty five billion, which I actually think
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is underestimated, including twenty eight percent to Gulf Arab States, the UAE,
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Saudi Arabia, Qait Kata and others including Jordans that have heavily invested and actually
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effectively bought up sectors of Egyptian territory, particularly within the Sinai and on the
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Red Sea coast. I've actually written at my Substacker series of three articles talking
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first of all about the economic trap and then CC deepening ties both economic trade
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and SAW and in fact, during twenty twenty four, Egypt's exports to Israel's
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sword as did the UAE and Jordan, despite the fact that Israel is conducting
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a genocide in Gaza. And then finally the mafia bosses that are running the
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business and including the Gaza four CC in the Sinai. Now this was put
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out by WikiLeaks yesterday. A verified document from the Israeli Ministry of Intelligence in
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October twenty twenty three suggests ethnic cleansing force displacement of Gaza civilians to Egypt would
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yield positive and long term strategic results. The document and visions of three stage
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process, including the establishment of ten cities in Sinai in the opening of humanitarian
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corridor, followed by a construction of cities in northern Sinai from which there would
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be no return. Now we have actually reported on this previously, but I
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did take a very quick look at the document and if we see, the
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document also states that the US must be harnessed. This is translated from Hebrews,
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so the English might be a bit all over the place. The United
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States effectively must be harnessed for remove to put pressure on Egypt to absorb Gaza
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residents, and to harness other European countries, particular Greece, Spain and Canada.
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Isn't European, but you get the picture, to help absorb and settle
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the refugees who will be evacuated through Gaza. The document was said not to
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be distributed through the US Office to officials, but only to Israeli government and
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security. And then further on in the report on the document, in relation
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to the difficulty that Egypt will have an obligation in international law to allow a
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population transition because Egypt is objecting to mass migration of Gazan refugees into the Sinai.
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Although we have also reported on the fact that Egypt has apparently been preparing
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an open air compound on the Egyptian side of the Rafa border. I think
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that was back earlier this year. The US can contribute to the move by
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exerting pressure on Egypt, Turkey, get out, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates
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to contribute to the initiative or re sources or absorption of displaced persons. So
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what I believe is effectively going on here, Egypt has very little control or
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very little sovereignty right now. As I said, it's completely mired in depth.
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What we are seeing I financial incentives and incentives of cooperation and collaboration from
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the EU and from the IMF, which I think is going to be used
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to leverage Egypt in the future to accept refugees from Gaza so Vanessa. Assuming
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that this is the plan, that they tend to build these tense cities and
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then eventually build real cities to accommodate these people. What's Egypt's attitude to the
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Palestinians. Will they eventually see Palestinians being brought into mainstream Egyptian society or are
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they going to try to build a water further wall around this new infrastructure.
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Yeah, I mean this is this is what I expect will happen if this
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goes ahead. As I said, all of these plans are effectively planned.
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Nothing concrete is being put into action right now, and Egypt publicly is saying,
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you know, very vehemently that it doesn't agree to guards and refugees coming
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into the Sinai. The main reason it doesn't want that, of course,
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is then it considers that that will put Egypt at risk of being attacked by
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Israel if from US continues their resistance from inside Egyptian territory. But in my
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opinion, with the mass investment by the UAE and Saudi Arabia, particularly in
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the Sinai to build luxury settlements and projects akin to the Neon project, which
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we've also talked about previously, they will want to basically segregate the Palestinians and
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put them behind apartheid walls very similar to those that, of course we've seen
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in the occupied territories built where the Zionists to hide them from view. Basically,
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that's my opinion. Yeah, okay, okay, thank you very much
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column and even the weather mostly cooperated, it did, yes, okay.
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And a quick advert for this going on on Sunday the seventh, So that'll
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be this Sunday. I guess in Bath do you trust your council? Now?
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This is Bath and Northeast Somerset Council. They've signed you up to a
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smart city trial according to this advertisement, and the question is do you consent?
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So join the rally for sanity and that is on the seventh at two
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pm at the Guildhall which is at the Bathness Council building in Bath. So
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joining them for that if you can. Where does that take us? Juries?
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Now? We have been talking about juries for quite a long time.
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It is a fundamental part of our national infrastructure and part of our fundamental part
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of our freedom actually, and most people don't understand the role of jury.
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So I was quite interested to see this article in the Guardian yesterday activists arrested
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on suspicion of contempt after London court protests. So this was eleven people that
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were outside at Crank Court and we're holding up various banners and placards trying to
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explain the role of a jury. Eleven arrested, it says in the sub
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headline. There after holding placards outside court, the judge said could be interpreted
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as interference with a jury. I think if we're talking about interference with the
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jury, we need to be looking at what judges are doing with respect to
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juries. But anyway, what the Guardian didn't say anything about was the group
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that was actually involved in this protest. So here's their website. It's called
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Defend our Juries. Now I'm going to say straight out here this is not
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the type of group that people watching the UK column News I would imagine would
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be wanting to support, because these people are mainly linked to climate protests and
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so on. But I have to say that in terms of explaining the situation
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with juries, that website does quite a lot to explain it in a very
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clear and concise way. So if you can suspend your disbelief on the climate
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issue, I recommend reading what it is that they say. And well,
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we can talk a little bit more about this in a second, but let's
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just look at a little bit of video from that website and see what they
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have to say. We have this right in the UK which is really really
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important, and it's been there since sixteen seventy and it's the right of juries
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to acquit a defendant based on their conscience, so regardless of what a judge
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thinks, or what the government of the day thinks, or what the media
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think, but on their conscience. And this right is really it's puts the
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moral sense of ordinary people at the heart of our criminal justice system. The
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blank banners at the moment, they're becoming a bit of a signifier for just
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how gagged defendants and protests are becoming across this nation of ours, and indeed
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across the rest of the world as well. They're becoming a symbol of resistance
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in themselves. In recent months, a retired social worker in a sixties held
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up a sign which was pertaining to that right of juries to acquit according to
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their conscience, and she was arrested by order of a judge and threatened with
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imprisonment, and twenty four others since then have been threatened with the same thing
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for the same action. So they're describing it as acquittal on their conscience.
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We might call it an element by jury or jury nullification. We've been talking
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about this for many, many years. But let's just have a look at
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the ways that the juries are being undermined at the moment. So banning those
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engaged in campaigns of political resistance from explaining their motives and beliefs to the jury,
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these are things that the judge. The judges tend to do, telling
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the jury that motives, even if articulated, are irrelevant and must be ignored.
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That's commonplace, banning references to juries, right to acquit the defendant as
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a matter of conscience, directing the jury that defenses such as necessity, proportionality,
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or reasonable excuse are not available, and finally, threatening to move to
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judge only trials. And this last one is a particular threat, but nonetheless
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they're absolutely right and highlighting all those other instances. And of course this doesn't
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just apply to people that are campaigning on climate issues. This applies to people
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that are campaigning and protesting on a whole raft of different issues. So again
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you may feel that you don't want to support this particular group because they are
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pro climate change, but we should be supporting the message here because this is
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something that applies to everyone, not just people that are promoting the climate change
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narrative. Now, as I say, this is something that we have been
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talking about for many, many years. So this was something that we put
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on screen several years ago. We have been in constitutional crisis for years.
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Break up of the nation city states, abolition of juries, prevention of public
29:49
oversight and court cases, removal of separation of pars, wholesale privatization of public
29:55
services, investigatory pars, the part to do anything. The list does go
29:59
on. But the jury is absolutely fundamental constitutional freedom that we have in this
30:07
country. It's a key part of the judicial system and it's a key part
30:10
of holding government to account. Now, if you don't understand what nullification by
30:15
jury means, it means that, for example, if government passes a piece
30:18
of legislation which a jury feels is inappropriate or doesn't work in a certain set
30:25
of circumstances, the jury can find someone who's being prosecuted under that legislation innocent
30:30
of any criminal offense, and of course that sets a precedent in common law.
30:36
So this is an extremely powerful tool for juries. It's something that most
30:41
juries don't understand, and it's something that really needs much broader understanding. As
30:45
I say, we've been talking about this for years. This is an article
30:48
from Malcolm Massey in twenty twelve jury Nullification A part of the People. It's
30:52
quite a short article. If you haven't read it, please do read it,
30:56
but most importantly please do share it. Of course, we would encourage
31:00
everybody to have a look, to have a listen to a dissonance guide to
31:04
the Constitution, and we talked about an Alma by jury in episode two of
31:10
that, so if you haven't heard that series, please listen to it.
31:15
I cannot oversteered the importance of this. Yeah, it is phenomenally important,
31:19
and I think that you're absolutely right to point out that the group that you've
31:23
referred to by largely being composed of climate activists and perhaps sort of social justice
31:30
warriors as they might be referred to, should be in a way neither here
31:33
nor them. And there are obvious examples that can be cited where dury notification
31:37
has played out in recent years, most notably those that were in court for
31:42
criminal damage on the pushing of the statue of Edward Colston into the Bristol Harbor
31:48
and the smashing of enormous plate glass windows at a Barklay's Bank building, and
31:52
both were overturned by juries. But the key issue here, and this is
31:56
exactly like the sort of defense of free speech, is that if you want
32:00
to maintain the system, you have to accept the consequences no matter what they
32:06
may be. You can't equivocate about it. And I think that's the central
32:08
point that has to be grasped here. And if sometimes it doesn't play out
32:12
in the way that you hoped that it would, well that's the system indeed.
32:16
And just to finish on the attack on the right to protest, the
32:21
BBC has been doing a bit of work here, So let's put this one
32:22
on screen and there we go. Slow Walk protests banned at twelve hundred locations.
32:29
So this is an investigation that the BBC did. I just wanted to
32:31
highlight a couple of points out of this. The scale of efforts by all
32:36
companies and public bodies to protect their premises from environmental protesters can be revealed in
32:40
new BBC analysis. More than four hundred demonstrators are named in court orders that
32:45
restrict protests at more than twelve hundred locations. The civil injunctions and force in
32:51
places like all terminals, petrol stations, race tracks across England and Wales also
32:55
apply to persons unknown, meaning anyone can be prosecuted. The anti protests and
33:00
junctions limit what people can do, who they can associate with, and where
33:05
they can go. The punishment for breaching one can be up to two years
33:07
imprisonment for or an unlimited fine, a heavier penalty than for the equivalent offenses
33:13
and criminal law. It have been taken out by all companies including Shell,
33:16
so O n X on mobile, National Highways for Transport for London account for
33:22
five more, and the other two were taken out by local consuls. And
33:24
again you know, of course the excuse for this draconian break crackdown on protest
33:31
is the likes of just Stop Oil and so on. But if just Stop
33:37
Stop Oil's behavior is resulting in this type of limitation on the right to protest,
33:42
that right, that limitation on the right to protest applies to us all.
33:45
And even if we don't agree with what just Stop Oil is doing,
33:50
and I personally don't, then we've we've still got to support their right to
33:53
do it because that is our right to also protest as well. So that
34:00
is the main point I want to make there. But Charles worthzar take us
34:04
to the Church of England. It does. The Church of England never far
34:07
from a controversy of their own making. And here on Twitter we have reference
34:13
to the publication of a document about the heresy of racial injustice. And the
34:19
document in question is Progress on Racial Justice across the Church of England Dioceses,
34:23
and this was published yesterday. The accompanying text is racism is a heresy and
34:29
a sin. And as Christians, we have a responsibility to eradicate racism and
34:32
exclusion in all its forms in the Church as well as our wider society.
34:37
Now that may well be the case, but if racism and the concept of
34:40
race is reframed, then the outcomes are slightly different. So what we'll do
34:45
is just have a quick look at a video that's been produced by the church
34:49
to accompany this document. So I've known no other church. This is my
34:55
church. I grew up in the Caribbean seeing reflection of myself in leadership within
35:01
the church, within society as a whole. And then I came to England
35:07
in nineteen seventy nine as a teenager and I looked around me and I couldn't
35:13
see reflections of myself in leadership within the Church of England. It's hard to
35:20
describe to someone who is used to being the majority culture what it's like walking
35:27
into a church and feeling like you're the only one. It's just a very
35:31
hard feeling to capture, and I guess minorities from every ethnic group just learn
35:36
to deal with that. If you don't see yourself, then you don't know
35:40
that you are welcomed, that you can be part of. And so even
35:45
though the church itself can be saying with words you belong, you're welcome,
35:52
everything about the situation communicates to you I'm not part of this and I'm not
35:58
welcome. Quite strong language and inferences being drawn there. But the point I
36:05
want to make is that racism appears to have shifted, according to the Church
36:08
of England, into now something that may be viewed as passive. Rather than
36:13
taking active steps to discriminate discriminate against people of a different race, it's now
36:19
deemed that it's okay to turn up in church and think that the institutional the
36:22
people must be racist because they don't look like you. This comes from the
36:28
Committee for Minority Ethnic Anglican Concerns, who describe their role as being to identify,
36:34
monitor and take forward concerns of Bame Anglicans and make recommendations for change.
36:39
So this is the key part. It is all about change, whether necessary
36:44
or not. Further, they encourage the church take positive action to increase the
36:47
inclusion and representation of BAME people across the church. They encourage them to pursue
36:52
vocations and to work with them to understand issues relating to BAME young people.
36:59
Well, I would say that perhaps they're creating these issues and indeed indoctrinating them
37:04
in order that they understand them in the way that the Church wants them to
37:07
promoting understanding of racism, racial issues and cultural diversity, again reframing there advising
37:13
and supporting the church and for example, interestingly the UK Minority Ethnic Mental Health
37:17
Toolkit, as though the issue of mental health might be different depending on the
37:22
color of your skin. So the hijacking and the corruption of phrases like inclusion
37:30
and diversity is extreme in this instance, it really is. And to suggest
37:35
that the Church of England is now no longer an organization where people are brought
37:39
together by shared a shared belief system, but instead it must be according to
37:45
skin color or some other cultural point is quite extraordinary or not given the background
37:52
noe that we trace this back to what's called from the meant to action.
37:55
And this was precipitated by the death of George Floyd in May twenty twenty,
37:59
when most of the world was subjected to believing that Black Lives Matter was something
38:05
I actually had to pursue and subscribe to, no matter what the beliefs they
38:08
may have had previously. So this was starting in June twenty twenty to implement
38:13
significant cultural and structural change. Well, it looks like that is happening,
38:17
and also that apologies and lament should be accompanied by swift actions leading to real
38:23
change. Well, just a couple of years later, the Church Commissioners researched
38:29
identifying historic links to Transatlantic chattel slavery. Obviously there's been a lot on that,
38:35
but the bit that I want to get to, which is of great
38:37
significance, is the funding side of it. So now here we have the
38:42
most recent report from the Church Commissioners about the investment policies of the Church,
38:47
and there's a timeline on the right there which is probably too small to read,
38:52
but the point of it is that in recent years, the amount of
38:54
commitments towards net zero in particular and increasingly what being called racial justice is very
39:02
notable, and I've got arrows here that their spending plans are helping the church
39:07
to transition to a lower carbon approach step change in the area of racial justice,
39:10
and also that within the last three years there's an increase of one point
39:15
two billion, which represents about thirty percent of the spending. So where's that
39:20
going twenty twenty two figures here are highlighted because in the areas of housing,
39:24
diocesan investment, racial justice and net zero there was no funding allocated in twenty
39:30
two, but in twenty three at amounts to around eighty million. Now I've
39:35
written about this before, but the top twenty holdings in the church are very
39:39
indicative of where the Church of England is attempting to push society. So within
39:45
those top twenty holdings are companies like Applied Materials which has pharmaceutical divisions, Danaher
39:51
which has genomics which we've talked about many times before, analog devices looking at
39:55
electronics, surveillance and countermeasures, and of course Merk precision medicine with regard to
40:00
the cancer genome. But also and Mike was talking about this on the News
40:04
on Monday, and Debbie spoken about it many times before human derived colon organoids.
40:09
But on the net zero side, of course, we have Google.
40:12
This will be covered in more depth later, but on the net zero front,
40:15
of course, the hypocrisy is outstanding. Google have announced figures just today
40:21
or yesterday, and you see there the bottom line of each twenty twenty two
40:24
there has been a significant uplift in what they call their greenhouse gas emissions between
40:29
year twenty two and twenty twenty three. So the Google of failing and the
40:34
Church of England are still pouring money into them and all the rest of it.
40:37
Now, if you want to look further into this, I did write
40:39
about this in some detail based on previous reports by the Church Commission in which
40:45
it was very clear that despite their ethical investment policy, they are actually investing
40:49
in pornography, weapons of military grade military use, and embryon extent sem cells.
40:54
Now, obviously we've just seen that that's now moving into areas of sort
40:58
of AI and surveillance and all manner of other things. So none of this
41:02
is accidentally and I returned to the original point, which is what the Church
41:06
are doing, are trying to force change and it is very hard to look
41:10
at the Church of England now and believe that it is a meeting point for
41:15
people who share a belief within the context of faith. It seems to be
41:21
about every other agenda apart from that very one thing which should bind the people
41:24
that belong to it. Yes, okay, Well let's move back to the
41:29
Middle East and what is the list on Israel and their plans post whatever it
41:36
is that they're doing at the moment genocide? Yeah? Well, I mean,
41:39
you know, I'm trying to keep an eye on the ball and following
41:43
the direction of travel because there's an awful lot of confusing and contradictory rhetoric from
41:49
Israeli officials, US official, UK officials, EU officials. But what's interesting
41:54
is that Israel keeps coming back to this post genoside gaza plan. So this
42:00
was in the Financial Times Israel to test sorry hamas free bubbles in post war
42:07
gaza plan. Doesn't that sound huddly? So let's have a look at what
42:12
they're looking at doing a Israel as preparing to test an experimental model for running
42:16
post war gaza by creating a series of bubbles that are designed Actually takes me
42:22
back to COVID that are designed to be Hummas free, but have been met
42:27
with incredulity by many people briefed on the plant. The pilot scheme a template
42:32
for what Israel imagines would follow the war, will be launched in the northern
42:37
Gaza neighborhoods of Atatra and Beathanun and beate Lahya, which have been coming under
42:44
a heavy bombardment again. But even with the Israeli military on the cusp of
42:49
starting the pilots, there is widespread skepticism over their viability given the violent opposition
42:57
of Hamas and the resistance actions, infighting in Israeli Benjamin Netanyahu's government over the
43:04
details and tippid backing from Arab states, and it has been described as a
43:08
fantasy project. So let's just have a quick look at the map just to
43:13
see where these so called bubbles are going to be piloted, so a Tatra,
43:20
baked Laya and Beitann while in the north and then going on as it
43:24
continues in the Financial Times. The second person with knowledge of post war Gaza
43:30
added that Israeli attempts to identify local Palestinians who could run Gaza in famas as
43:36
stead have been ongoing since November without any significant success. This plan is just
43:42
the latest iteration the idea in Israeli minds us that someone the Arab states,
43:46
the international community will pay for it, and locals in Gaza will run it,
43:51
but no one is fighting. The person added and continuing just with on
43:55
the ground humanitarian bubbles would then an effect, be run by reps from the
44:00
international and Arab coalition. So back to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UA,
44:06
Jordan, local PA Palestinian authority that are very much seen as proxies of the
44:12
Zionist government and private contractors and business people. Several people familiar that there were
44:19
also plans to train up a local Palestinian force from inside guards of takeover security
44:23
and the humanitopian bubbles, which we assume are going to be programmed and deradicalized
44:30
from a Zionist perspective. Such a force would consist of former PA security personnel
44:37
who would either travel to Jordan or the West Bank for training under the auspices
44:40
of US Lieutenant General Michael Fenzel, the Jerusalem based security coordinator between Israel and
44:46
the PA. The PAS an influential intelligence chief, has already been vetting candidates
44:52
from inside guards or with several thousand men identified as potential recruits according to two
44:58
people. So let's go back to report that we did on UK column News
45:02
a few months ago when we talked about Netanyahu's dystopian vision for post genocide Gaza.
45:09
And you will remember then the so called safe zones that have now been
45:14
rebranded as humanitarian bubbles, whether the so called deradicalized Palestinians would be segregated and
45:22
corraled and potentially to be used of course for slave labor. So you know,
45:29
we keep coming back to the same idea, the same project, the
45:31
same plan, and I think it's important just to keep our eye on that
45:36
ball while everything is going on very much to confuse this. Yeah, thank
45:42
you for that. Now let's just quickly move on to Ukraine. And well,
45:45
the Netherlands has announced that it is exporting twenty four F sixteen's to Ukrain
45:52
eminently, and well, I'm just still wondering who's going to actually fly these
45:55
things? First of all, so are they going to be flown by Western
45:59
person? Well, is there anybody in the Ukrainian Air Force has actually been
46:02
trained to fly them? Yet? I don't think so. It takes a
46:05
significant amount of time to train someone to fly one of these jets, and
46:08
since it was only a couple of months ago that we saw the RAF announcing
46:13
that some Ukrainian pilots has gone through basic training, they're not going to be
46:19
in a position to fly these just yet. But in the meantime, the
46:23
Russians have released some video of them destroying if we can get it to run,
46:30
here we go destroying SU twenty seven's on the ground. So I believe
46:36
there were two actually destroyed, several others very badly damaged in this drone attack,
46:42
And so it's pretty clear that the NEF sixteen's heading into Ukraine aren't going
46:47
to last too long, even if they do have anybody to fly them,
46:52
or they do get off the ground. In the meantime, there's an argument
46:55
going on about intermediate missiles intermediate range missiles moment because well, if we think
47:01
back, the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty was signed by Gorbachev and Reagan in
47:07
nineteen eighty seven, and they both countries at that time agreed to abandon nuclear
47:14
and conventional ground launched, ballistic and cruise missiles with a range of three hundred
47:17
to three thousand miles, let's say. But then at beginning in twenty fourteen,
47:22
the US was busy accusing Russia of being a non compliance, so they
47:25
were already building a narrative at that stage, and then they withdrew from the
47:30
Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty in twenty nineteen. Russia said that they would refrain
47:36
from manufacturing or deploying any systems as long as the US didn't deploy them anywhere
47:43
in the world. But there's been noise of the US doing quite the opposite
47:47
of the moment. So ni Putin is talking about restarting manufacturing of these.
47:53
Will come onto the likelihood of that in a second. But let's just have
47:57
a look at Dimitri Paskov here, because he was commenting on whether there would
48:00
be any disclosure if there was a deployment of intermediate range missiles by Russia,
48:07
and he's saying, it's obvious that such information is hardly likely to be disclosed,
48:12
after all, this is an extremely sensitive field related to defense and security.
48:15
At the same time, you see that the President is raising this issue,
48:19
and accordingly, as the process with production and so on on fold,
48:22
some information will be accessible. So again an escalation here, But again This
48:29
seems to be Russia reacting to what the United States is doing. But the
48:34
United States been building this narrative for quite some time now. In the meantime,
48:38
we're seeing a lot of stuff in the Western press about whether Russia is
48:43
actually capable of building these things. So here is I think this was Irish
48:49
media, Sorry I not the branding off the top of this apologized for that
48:53
Russia has become so economically isolated that China could order the end of the war
49:00
in Ukraine. Of course, this is a hit piece on China and really
49:01
suggesting that China could step in and deal with Russia here, But the main
49:06
thrust of the article is that as a result of sanctions, Russia's economy is
49:10
so destroyed that it's impossible for it to continue expanding its military industrial capability.
49:19
Well that's a bit strange because this particular article seems to not be in line
49:23
with this article from Russi which published around the same time. It's entitled the
49:28
Methodology for Degrading the Arms of the Russian Federation. It says since its full
49:35
scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia has continued to access critical components from abroad,
49:40
expanded the production of core weapons and continued to increase the sophistication of some key
49:46
capabilities. So you know, the suggestion that Russia is unable to continue manufacturing
49:53
weapons is completely ridiculous. But we continue the narrative suggesting the Russia is carrying
50:00
out a hybrid war in the rest of Europe here and that it's doing so
50:05
in a much more kinetic way. So this is from the Institute for the
50:09
Study of War. We just expand the graph of the graphic. It's showing
50:14
Western Europe and a number of incidents which are being blamed on Russia without any
50:17
particular evidence. For example, an arsen attack on a warehouse containing Ukrainian aid
50:23
in Scotland. In Germany, planned arsen attacks and explosions foiled by the authorities
50:30
in the Czech Republic, a field arsen attack targeting at bus depot. What
50:34
on earth would an arsenal attack on a bus depo have to do with Russia?
50:37
But okay, this is their claim. And of course we were mentioning
50:40
the fires in a couple of battery establishments recently in South Korea and this one
50:46
in Glasgow, and the claim that Russia was somehow behind those as well,
50:52
and At the same time, the Wall Street Journal pushing out this narrative that
50:55
Russian saboteurs behind arsen attack at German factory. So you know, this is
51:01
a continuing narrative. But in the meantime, the Sun, just in time
51:06
for the election here has true fears of Britain's armed forces no longer credible,
51:10
amid cuts to record low Warrens ex Defense Chief Lord Dannatt and Charles just in
51:17
two seconds. I mean, this is something that we have been talking about
51:21
four years and I'm glad to see that the mainstream media finally starting to catch
51:25
up. Well. Absolutely, But my take on it would be the reason
51:30
this is being done is in order to galvanize people for either conscription or national
51:34
service, to make people sort of have some sense that the nation is in
51:37
peril. We've got the threat from Russia, but also we've got the armed
51:39
forces that are in an insufficient state, and therefore you've got to step forward
51:45
and do what's right. I think that's the way it's being played. Yes,
51:47
Vanessila, let's come back to you and well, genocide tech is how
51:52
this is being branded. Yeah, I mean, this is just extraordinary.
51:57
This was highlighted to me on x yesterday by an Italian investigative journalist. The
52:04
Jerusalem Press Club organizers the twenty twenty four Israeli tech media tool. So it's
52:09
inviting press from all over the world in while it is committing an ongoing genocide
52:16
in Garza and has been for nine months to come and actually view the tech
52:22
that is being used by the military to carry out that genocide. I mean,
52:25
it's just extraordinary. Imagine if Russia were to do this. So I
52:31
just I didn't have much time, so I quickly had a look at the
52:36
Some of the organizations involved includesbra cyber software identifying misinformation and bad actors in the
52:44
social media battle deployed by Elon Musk in his due diligence for I guess Twitter
52:51
now X. So I had a very quick look at this Syabra and it
52:55
becomes suddenly very interesting. Basically, an organization that uncovers the good, bad
53:02
and fake online. Does that sound familiar to anyone. Bear in mind,
53:07
we've been talking consistently about the intelligence agencies or brigades within Israel that are then
53:17
leaving the forces to establish their tech setup, and so let's have a look
53:23
at who is involved in SABRA and look at the trans atlantic connections. So
53:29
Mike Pompeo, formerly President Trump's kind of point man on the Middle East,
53:35
but in particular on Syria, is a board member at Sabra's dedication to proactive,
53:43
cutting edge threat detection alignes perfectly, and I'm excited to work WITHBRA as
53:49
they provide a vital shield against nefarious manipulation efforts online. Then I had a
53:55
quick look at the three CEO and co founders, but I just picked one
54:00
out because that was the most glaring connection to Israeli Intelligence. Also co founder
54:07
and CPO. The other two also have similar connections. He was formerly head
54:13
of department at Israeli Military Intelligence and team leader and project manager again at Israeli
54:19
Military Intelligence, which could be Unit eight two hundred. I mean, there
54:22
are various units within the IOF that he could have been referring to. And
54:30
then I just wanted to also show what Stefania Mariti had put out on X.
54:36
I'm convinced that this is one of the most monstrous and shameful initiatives that
54:39
I have ever seen in twenty three years of journalistic profession. A tour for
54:44
journalists to publicize the technology which among other things helps the war or the genocide
54:50
of Israel against Gaza. And I would absolutely, one hundred percent agree with
54:54
that. It is absolutely horrifying and I'm going to dig further to see are
55:00
there any British media were involved in the tour? Okay, thank you for
55:06
that, Vanessa. Let's move on then back to the UK and well,
55:12
no, in fact, to Finland first of all with bird flu. Absolutely,
55:15
but I know you are right to say the UK because of course we
55:17
will be there soon. Yes, Finland has proved to be the first Domino
55:21
to fall. An announcement here from the Global Center for Health Security Finland to
55:24
start bird flu vaccinations for humans in world first And if you've been watching UK
55:30
column you will know that this was inevitable, but nonetheless it was a race
55:34
to see who'd get there first. The Finish Institute for Health and Welfare declared
55:37
that Avian influenzas begin vaccine to be offered to persons at increased risk of infection.
55:44
Well, what exactly does that mean? They say it's to be offered
55:47
to people of eighteen or over to risk of being infected with a influenza because
55:52
of their work or other circumstances, which is of course a little bit cryptic
55:59
and could be applied to almost anything. But the significant detail here, and
56:02
it won't come as a huge surprise, is that no avian influenza infections in
56:07
humans in Finland so far so it has never been detected in humans in Finland.
56:13
Nonetheless, it says that it may be contracted from sick or dead animals
56:16
or from their excretions. However, the avian influenza virus is poorly transmitted to
56:22
humans and in general cases of infection are very rare. It goes on to
56:27
say that the subtype H five N one, which has caused disease in wildfarmed
56:30
animals in Finland in the past few years, has also been linked with severe
56:35
or fatal cases of the disease in humans. So they can't quite make their
56:39
mind up, but this would be the point to make it clear and remind
56:43
you that, of course, to be able to ascertain that there is bird
56:46
flu in existence in the first base means reliance on the PCR test, and
56:52
as we have been through many times, carry Malis, the man who invented
56:54
it, made it very clear that it was not possible to tell from the
56:58
PCR test whether whether you'd identified something that would make somebody ill or something ill
57:04
or that had them made the mell or that it could be passed to another
57:07
person, or that it is evidence of something that may be referred to as
57:12
a virus. So nonetheless they push on, and of course the goal to
57:16
all of this is to get vaccines into people. And we've been talking about
57:21
the European Medicines Agency and all the various things that they have on offer here,
57:23
so we'll just look at the specifics of this now. And they say
57:27
that there are four pandemic preparedness influenza vaccines that have been authorized in the EU
57:32
and telling me that they can be rapidly modified to protect people. I've highlighted
57:38
the text there below. Again they reiterate it can be adapted to protect against
57:43
any pandemic influenza virus strain if necessary, and they are only for use if
57:50
the WHO or the EU were to officially declare a pandemic, which has not
57:54
happened. And I've inserted the word yet. Also at the bottom, of
57:59
course, they blow the horn about the coronavirus disease vaccine, but also the
58:05
H one N one in two thousand and nine, which was a swine flu
58:07
vaccine that ended up being withdrawn, so interesting that they would nonetheless draw attention
58:13
to that. We go back to something that I mentioned several weeks ago,
58:16
which is this premise that this test results. I'm not going to refer to
58:23
it as an illness because it is simply a test result, and they're referring
58:27
to it as findings of influenza of avian origin in non avian wildlife. Well,
58:31
I rate to the Animal and Plant Health Agency to ask questions about exactly
58:36
what they meant by avian origin, and they've just got back to me today,
58:39
funnily enough. So the first question, of course, was which other
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illnesses do they test for? And the answer is no other tests are carried
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out. Well, that's absolutely to be expected, because if you want to
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look for something that you're going to call avian influenza, then that's the only
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thing you would look for. Also, how do they determine that it's of
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avian I think they've probably missed the point of my question, but they say
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by molecular analysis. Now that is not scientific rigor, that is closed loop
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reasoning, and I'm afraid does not meet the threshold that we should be expecting.
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I also ask for statistics on the number of tests. This is now
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in the UK over the last few years. So we look at twenty twenty
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two, of the one hundred and six tests conducted in the field, the
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return of negative results was ninety five, the absolutely overwhelming majority of twenty twenty
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three. Similar story, one hundred and fifty tests with one hundred and thirty
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six negative results. And again I'm not trying to give any credence to the
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PCR test, because even if it is looking for a particular thing, of
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course, the amplification cycles make the result meaningless whatever you do with it.
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In this particular instance, and in twenty twenty four, little red arrows there
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because of course the number of tests is twenty two and the number of negative
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results is also twenty two, exactly the same case. That will be a
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lot of the rest of the world. But here we are gearing up for
1:00:00
injections into human beings. Now, if you missed it, I gave effectively
1:00:07
a run through of how to establish a pandemic back on the twenty ninth of
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May, which is the sort of overlay of the COVID template. So i'd
1:00:14
recommend that you do look at that. And then the only other thing which
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I don't have a slide off, but you might be interested to go and
1:00:20
look at, is birdflusummit dot com. Now, if Event two oh one
1:00:24
means anything too, which was conducted in twenty nineteen and was effectively a tabletop
1:00:29
exercise about a forthcoming coronavirus pandemic that played out almost exactly to the letter of
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Event twoh one, Birdfoo summit dot com, should be of great interest.
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It happens in October this year. I'll be keeping a very close eye on
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it and reporting on it in due course. Okay, Charles, thank you
1:00:45
very much. Thank you very much to Vanessa for joining us. We've got
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to finish there for today. I hope everyone has enjoyed today's program. If
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you're a UK column member, join us for extra in a couple of minutes.
1:00:58
Don't forget the interview at one pm tomorrow with J Michael Waller. But
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otherwise we'll see at one pm on Friday. See you then, Bye bye. M