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The Muster Full Show: 09/10/26 · The Muster on Hokonui

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Speaker 1: Friday afternoon and a beautiful afternoon in that one as
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Speaker 1: well as we catch up with Nathan Abernethy of Regional Food. G'day, Nathan.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, g'day, Andy. You're not wrong. What a cracker it
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Speaker 2: is out here today. No, looking absolutely beautiful. So we're
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Speaker 2: just getting things... It's nice to have an opportunity to
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Speaker 2: be outside and get things looking tidy rather than being
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Speaker 2: in the showroom like we've perhaps been for the last
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Speaker 2: few months because it's been that miserable out there. But no, look,
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Speaker 2: things are looking great and I think for the weekend
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Speaker 2: and certainly the next few days, uh hopefully we've um
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Speaker 2: we've broke this bad weather's back and uh and it's
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Speaker 2: it's looking pretty positive out there so um but look
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Speaker 2: it's another friday rolled around they're rolling around really fast
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Speaker 2: and as we get closer to christmas they seem to
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Speaker 2: roll around faster don't they um but no no look
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Speaker 2: it's um it's busy here today as i say we're
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Speaker 2: we're just getting things lined up we've got a we've
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Speaker 2: we've taken over a new yard across the road which
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Speaker 2: has given us a little bit more room so uh
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Speaker 2: so we're just playing around with our vehicles and and
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Speaker 2: getting things looking good but We've just got plenty coming through,
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Speaker 2: lots of new vehicles in at the moment, plenty of
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Speaker 2: good Rangers coming through, both new and second hand. We've
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Speaker 2: got a lot of new stock that's just come through
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Speaker 2: so if anybody's certainly thinking or been thinking about updating
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Speaker 2: their truck, come in and have a look because there's
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Speaker 2: probably about seven or eight different models of Ranger we've
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Speaker 2: got here at the moment. From the two litre engine
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Speaker 2: right up through to the V6, three litre diesel as well.
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Speaker 2: Lots coming through the second hand and actually we've just
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Speaker 2: had something really unusual come through this morning. that I
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Speaker 2: know they're really, really popular. This is a 2022 Suzuki Jimny.
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Speaker 2: Those wee vehicles, they're a neat wee vehicle, and they're
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Speaker 2: a great vehicle for even on farm. You see a
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Speaker 2: lot of people with them now. A good alternative to
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Speaker 2: side-to-sides and stuff. This vehicle's travelled 40,000 k's or thereabouts.
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Speaker 2: It's in a colour called, well, I don't know what
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Speaker 2: it's called, but we probably are calling it Taliban Tan.
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Speaker 3: It's sort of a tanny sort of a colour.
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Speaker 2: And for $ 28, 990, including GST. that's a great vehicle for somebody.
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Speaker 2: So they're not big, they're just great vehicles for around town,
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Speaker 2: but they're also great vehicles for off-road and on the
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Speaker 2: farm as well. So plenty of Ford Everest in at
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Speaker 2: the moment, as well as a few other SUVs, plenty
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Speaker 2: of double cabs coming through. Andy, we've got finance on
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Speaker 2: the spot. The guys out in the workshop and the
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Speaker 2: parts department are really busy. We service all makes and models,
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Speaker 2: parts for all makes and models. And not to forget
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Speaker 2: the guys up in Belclutha. If there's anything we can do,
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Speaker 2: certainly pick up the phone or come in and see us,
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Speaker 2: and we'd love to take care of you.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Nathan. Enjoy your weekend.
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Speaker 2: You too, Andy.
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Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokonui. Andy
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Speaker 1: Muir here. The show's brought to you by Peter's Genetics.
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Speaker 1: on a Fri-Yay with sunshine and blue sky. Phil Duncan
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Speaker 1: of Weatherwatch giving us a rundown on the weather for
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Speaker 1: the South over the next seven days, very shortly, but
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Speaker 1: it's looking pretty good over the weekend anyway. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: joining us. Quite a bit to get through for the hour,
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Speaker 1: but starting off with this, The Beef and Lamb Spring Shout.
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Speaker 1: These have been really well attended, and tonight it is
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Speaker 1: at Waimumu at the Turupu Hall, starting at 7 o'clock
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Speaker 1: this evening. So something to go along to, of course,
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Speaker 1: thanks to the team at Beef and Lamb New Zealand.
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Speaker 1: The music today is Collective Soul. Something a bit rockier.
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Speaker 4: Hōkanui' s five-day forecast with Twin Farm, Tehrom and Softex.
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Speaker 1: The proof is in the progeny. tehrom.co.nz This afternoon, sunshine
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Speaker 1: with calm variable winds and a high of 21. Saturday,
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Speaker 1: sunny with calm variable winds, 8 and 21 again. Sunday,
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Speaker 1: partly cloudy with breezy nor'westerlies, 7 and 22. Monday, sunshine
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Speaker 1: with light nor'westerlies, 9 and 22. And Tuesday, showers of
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Speaker 1: breezy nor'westerlies, 9 and 20. So temperatures, Clinton 9.8, Heriot 10,
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Speaker 1: Northern Southland 10.7, Riverton 11.9, Te Anau 12.3, Winton 10.8
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Speaker 1: and Woodlands 10.8. Let's get that grass growing. Phil Duncan
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Speaker 1: of Weatherwatch starts us off looking at the forecast for
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Speaker 1: the south over the next seven days. And Nigel Woodhead,
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Speaker 1: farming in South Otago. Thinking about tractor season, tailing as well,
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Speaker 1: quite a bit on the table there in our regular catch-up.
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Speaker 1: Doug Avery, the resilient farmer. Now, Doug's been there and
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Speaker 1: done there when it comes to having his moments on
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Speaker 1: the farm. He wrote a book a few years ago,
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Speaker 1: really interesting read as well. Just talks about mindset too
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Speaker 1: after an adverse weather event we've experienced down here. Michelle
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Speaker 1: Watt joins us for the Country Crossover and Elliot Smith
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Speaker 1: out of Newstalk ZB looks at the All Blacks against
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Speaker 1: the Wallabies. And as well, a legal wrangle is developing
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Speaker 1: between the Chiefs and Super Rugby. And the Papua New
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Speaker 1: Guinea Chiefs. Effectively, the NZR is taking on the NRL.
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Speaker 1: Interesting times. So without further ado, we'll start the hour
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Speaker 1: decks with Phil Duncan. This is the muster brought to
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Speaker 1: you by Peters Genetics. This is the muster on Hockanui.
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Speaker 1: Time to catch up with Phil Duncan out of Weatherwatch.
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Speaker 3: And I'm here to remind you of.
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Speaker 1: The One of the great cassettes of all time, that
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Speaker 1: Jagged Little Pill by Alanis Morissette. Good afternoon, Phil. G'day, g'day.
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Speaker 5: Yes, I agree. That was one of my first albums.
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Speaker 1: Undefeated Alanis Morissette. As is weather watching your forecasting. Look,
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Speaker 1: we've had a pretty, we've had a purple patch down
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Speaker 1: here in Southland recently.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the weather's really changed, really across the country. And
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Speaker 5: it's funny because I've been using the frost maps in
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Speaker 5: my daily weather videos, and this week is the first
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Speaker 5: week in a long time that there is nothing showing up,
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Speaker 5: like nothing, not even on the tops of the mountains.
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Speaker 5: And as you go into the weekend, especially around Sunday
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Speaker 5: and then going into the start of next week, it
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Speaker 5: gets even warmer. So, yeah, definitely seeing a lift in temperatures,
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Speaker 5: as we're seeing in Southland, Gore is going to be
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Speaker 5: into the 20s for the next few days ahead through
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Speaker 5: to the start of next week. And we're forecasting 21, 22.
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Speaker 5: There is a chance if the sun's out and you've
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Speaker 5: got the right conditions that it could go another degree
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Speaker 5: or two higher than that, which means we might be
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Speaker 5: looking at 23s or 24s possibly this weekend. So, yeah,
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Speaker 5: it's going to be a warmer weekend, although there could
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Speaker 5: be a little bit of cloud around And because we
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Speaker 5: do have high pressure and it's that time of year
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Speaker 5: where the nights are still a little bit cool and
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Speaker 5: the days are warm, you end up with fog patches
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Speaker 5: or low clouds. So we've got that possibility over the
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Speaker 5: next few days as well.
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Speaker 1: But let's not kid ourselves. It isn't quite time to
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Speaker 1: pack up the fire just yet, or is it?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's spring. And so with spring, you know, people
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Speaker 5: always do the, oh, so much for spring when you
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Speaker 5: get a cold change. But the, you know, the reality
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Speaker 5: of spring is it is winter slowly fading away. and
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Speaker 5: hints of summer slowly coming in. And so next week,
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Speaker 5: it is a reminder that we're only just leaving winter.
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Speaker 5: So there's a cold front coming through. It comes through
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Speaker 5: on Tuesday later in the day, or, you know, sort
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Speaker 5: of Tuesday p.m., and brings a little bit of rain.
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Speaker 5: It may not necessarily be a huge amount, but you
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Speaker 5: might get, it could be 20 millimetres over Tuesday and
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Speaker 5: Wednesday coming through. And then Wednesday's colder, back to a
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Speaker 5: high of only 12 degrees, so 10 degrees taken off
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Speaker 5: your maximums, And the overnight lows drop down to five.
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Speaker 5: And then as we get to Thursday and Friday, the
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Speaker 5: maximums drop to 11 and fairly cloudy and overnight lows
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Speaker 5: of four with the wind chill getting down around two
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Speaker 5: or three. So it's going to be a little bit cold,
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Speaker 5: a little bit damp. a bit cloudy next week. So
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Speaker 5: just keep that in mind for the newborn livestock, the
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Speaker 5: newborn lambs in particular. I think newborn calves probably won't
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Speaker 5: be too stressed with that, but the lambs might be.
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Speaker 5: So it's a little bit cold and damp next week.
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Speaker 5: And then it slowly kind of warms back up again,
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Speaker 5: not very quickly, still got overnight lows of four, but
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Speaker 5: the maximums go up to sort of into the teens
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Speaker 5: by next weekend. So it's It's a bit of a reset,
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Speaker 5: and it'll feel cold because of the warmth that we've
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Speaker 5: got between now and the start of next week.
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Speaker 1: We had fog in the south this morning. Unseasonal.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I always think of the weather in
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Speaker 5: six-month boundaries. So if you think of the weather we've
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Speaker 5: got now, here we are in the middle of October.
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Speaker 5: So you go November, December, January, February, March, April. That's
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Speaker 5: the opposite of where we're at. So to have fog
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Speaker 5: in April is really normal. And so fog at this
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Speaker 5: time of the year is normal, provided that we don't
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Speaker 5: have wind. And so you can still get fog. It
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Speaker 5: doesn't usually linger as long as it does six months
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Speaker 5: from now, simply because the days are getting longer rather
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Speaker 5: than shorter. But we do get fog patches, and it's
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Speaker 5: usually to do with the fact that you've got these
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Speaker 5: sort of big differences in temperatures, kind of like what
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Speaker 5: we get in six months from now as well. And so, yeah,
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Speaker 5: we do get fog, but it usually burns off quicker
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Speaker 5: at this time of the year. But you can get
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Speaker 5: foggy patches through October, and they're usually less likely in
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Speaker 5: November because just simply the days are so long.
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Speaker 1: The temperature was around 17 degrees yesterday, but various parts
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Speaker 1: of the region were talking about easterlies, and there was
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Speaker 1: a bit of a nip in there. Is this going
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Speaker 1: to be a theme for the next week or two?
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Speaker 5: So we've got, at the moment, part of that reason
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Speaker 5: is we've had high pressure, or actually, at the moment,
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Speaker 5: high pressure is east of Dunedin. and south of the
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Speaker 5: Chatham Islands. And that placement just kind of brings in
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Speaker 5: that nor'easter down the coastline and spills over into Southland.
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Speaker 3: It's not warm.
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Speaker 5: Nor'easters at this time of the year aren't warm anywhere
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Speaker 5: in New Zealand. They are kind of a cold wind.
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Speaker 5: They warm up more in northern parts of the country
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Speaker 5: going into summer, like where I am in Auckland at northeasterly.
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Speaker 5: Summer can be beautiful because it's subtropical. But at this
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Speaker 5: time of the year, they're pretty miserable. Next week, like
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Speaker 5: I said, we get this northerly wind. That's why it
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Speaker 5: warms up in northwesterlies. And these winds are coming from,
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Speaker 5: you know, the Coral Sea and Queensland and New South Wales.
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Speaker 5: So that's why it's not cold. By the time we
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Speaker 5: reach Wednesday, the airflow is coming from south of Tasmania.
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Speaker 5: And so that's why it gets colder next week. And
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Speaker 5: that sticks around. You know, we've got these colder winds
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Speaker 5: through to next weekend. And then next weekend, when I
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Speaker 5: said it warms up a little bit, that's because we've
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Speaker 5: got the next big high crossing over the country, light
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Speaker 5: winds again. And then the following week, so we're talking
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Speaker 5: about the 19th of October onwards, it's more of a
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Speaker 5: westerly flow. And the next high will be up over
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Speaker 5: the North Island, which means you'll probably get a burst
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Speaker 5: of northwesterlies going into sort of that week. And so
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Speaker 5: a couple of cold fronts coming through and temperatures changing again.
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Speaker 5: So we still see very much a spring weather pattern.
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Speaker 5: The longest weather map I've got that I'm looking at
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Speaker 5: right now goes through to the 25th of October, Labor Weekend,
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Speaker 5: I think. And that forecast shows westerly winds and temperatures
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Speaker 5: West Coast rain, cloud and showers for you guys, and
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Speaker 5: lower temperatures with the polar boundary up over Christchurch and Greymouth.
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Speaker 5: So we're not done with spring at all, but it's
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Speaker 5: not going to be as wet as it's been, and
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Speaker 5: the cold snaps are getting fewer and further between, but
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Speaker 5: they're still coming in this month.
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Speaker 1: So this is classic El Nino that's still to be experienced?
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Speaker 2: 100%.
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Speaker 5: Yep, it's classic El Nino, it's classic spring. In saying that,
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Speaker 5: we are having some anomalies with temperatures and you know,
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Speaker 5: a few bits and pieces here and there. But overall,
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Speaker 5: it is pretty classic. There's nothing really jumping out. There's
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Speaker 5: no major storms at the moment either. We're not seeing
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Speaker 5: a lot of severe weather around the country. And sometimes October,
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Speaker 5: you know, the MetService team can be just every day
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Speaker 5: belting out all these severe weather warnings. At the moment,
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Speaker 5: they've got a pretty quiet period of weather. So for
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Speaker 5: this time of year, it's not too bad. But El
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Speaker 5: Nino tends to do that. El Nino tends to remove
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Speaker 5: a lot of the storms, and we just get this relentless...
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Speaker 5: kind of spring-autumn weather pattern.
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Speaker 1: Now, Phil, you've got a sophisticated weather system there called
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Speaker 1: the Weather Watch Generator 5000 Weathertron. Put him for Te
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Speaker 1: Anau tomorrow. Te Anau Young Farmers has their annual bark up.
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Speaker 1: What's happening?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no AI in this system.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's looking for tomorrow, did you say?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, tomorrow in Te Anau.
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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, it's looking good tomorrow. 20 degrees, overnight low
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Speaker 5: of 9 degrees, Partly cloudy, probably mostly sunny. It's a
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Speaker 5: beautiful day. Yeah, it should be a good one. It's
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Speaker 5: a good one across the whole South Island, really, tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: It's a good day for a good day, Phil Duncan
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Speaker 1: of Weatherwatch. Always appreciate your time.
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Speaker 5: Thanks very much, mate. Have a good weekend.
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Speaker 1: Phil Duncan of Weatherwatch. Make sure you give him a
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Speaker 1: follow on his social channels as well as YouTube. Nigel
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Speaker 1: Wood heads up next, based in South Otago. This is
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Speaker 1: The Muster. Welcome back to the muster as we look
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Speaker 1: out over Main Street and there's blue sky in abundance.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful day here. Nigel Woodhead, farming in South Otago between
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Speaker 1: Balclutha and Milton. Good afternoon. The state of play. Do
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Speaker 1: you have the big yellow out?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, afternoon. And excuse the background noise. There's a squirrel
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Speaker 3: flying over with a bucket underneath it, which means there's
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Speaker 3: a bit of your air about to go on somewhere,
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Speaker 3: I'd say, by the look of it. Yep, beautiful, beautiful day.
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Speaker 3: primo October spring day, so we'll take it. Great.
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Speaker 1: Are you drying out there compared to where you're at,
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Speaker 1: given we've had a bit of good weather recently? I
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Speaker 1: suppose that's a straightforward answer, is it?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, we're probably looking about as good,
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Speaker 3: if you look over the farm, looking as good as
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Speaker 3: we need to be, really, considering how things were a
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Speaker 3: month ago. So, no, no, we're ticking along pretty good.
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Speaker 3: We Covers are starting to come back. There's actually a
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Speaker 3: wee bit of grass starting to lift in front of
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Speaker 3: yews or underneath yews and lambs that are set stock.
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Speaker 3: We were just talking off air. I'm shuffling some hoggets
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Speaker 3: with their lambs at foot around at the moment because
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Speaker 3: I must have cocked my mass up or something. They
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Speaker 3: ended up getting set stock a bit lighter than what
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Speaker 3: they would usually be set stock at. So there's a
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Speaker 3: bit of feed underneath them. So we'll just tighten the
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Speaker 3: old hoggets up a wee bit. and then bring some
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Speaker 3: ewes onto the hoggart block just to give them a
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Speaker 3: bit more space as well. So just a bit of
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Speaker 3: shuffling around to try and make sure we look after
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Speaker 3: some pasture quality and keep everything adequately fed, yeah.
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Speaker 1: What are your gateways like?
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Speaker 3: Oh, some of them are like trying to drive over
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Speaker 3: the moon, driving through all the rut, especially... Like, just the... Oh,
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Speaker 3: there's one laneway. We actually just finished the fencing in
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Speaker 3: the winter, actually, and we haven't got rock down on
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Speaker 3: the laneway yet, and we had a paddock of Swedes
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Speaker 3: out down there. We'd taken baleage and hay through the winter,
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Speaker 3: so the track was up and down that laneway a
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Speaker 3: fair bit in the wintertime, and, yeah, it's a bit
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Speaker 3: of a bombsite, and it's the main access to one
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Speaker 3: part of the farm, so... Yeah, but it's getting close
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Speaker 3: to being dry enough now. We'll probably stick the grub
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Speaker 3: or rotospike on and give everything a bit of a
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Speaker 3: knock around and flatten them back out again. The worst
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Speaker 3: thing you can do is flatten all your ruts out
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Speaker 3: and then have an inch of rain and then they
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Speaker 3: turn back into ruts and soup again. So it's got
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Speaker 3: to get the timing right.
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Speaker 1: Geordie, you spoke yesterday of over 500 mils for August
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Speaker 1: and September, which is a lot of precipitation, anyone's language.
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Speaker 1: I suppose you guys, you had a lot of rain,
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Speaker 1: but not those figures?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, nowhere near 500. I actually haven't sat down and
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Speaker 3: totalled with that.
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Speaker 4: But, I mean, they got to a stage, if I'm honest,
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Speaker 4: where whether it was 50 mils or 500, the fact
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Speaker 4: that we were getting some moisture every day just meant
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Speaker 4: it stayed wet. Like, you know, we were saturated at
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Speaker 4: the start.
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Speaker 3: And then there's more rain on top. You know, just
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Speaker 3: like I say, we were that wet and it was
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Speaker 3: raining that off and like I say, whether it was
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Speaker 3: 50 or 100 or 500, it probably wasn't a whole
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Speaker 3: lot in it because once it got saturated and muddy,
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Speaker 3: it just, you know, it was muddy and it was
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Speaker 3: saturated and it was what it was. So no, we're
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Speaker 3: nowhere near that sort of total. Yeah, that's a whole
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Speaker 3: lot of rain, man, and it just makes life makes
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Speaker 3: life difficult, all right.
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Speaker 1: Tractor work and tailing, the obvious. When do you hope
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Speaker 1: to get the tailing gates up and running?
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Speaker 3: Tailing, I spoke to the contractor about a week, 10
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Speaker 3: days ago, start of the month, and I told him
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Speaker 3: I didn't want to see him for a long time.
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Speaker 3: I said, go and do someone else for a while,
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Speaker 3: but it sounds like he's in the area. He's got
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Speaker 3: a few jobs to do around here, and then he's
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Speaker 3: got to shoot back up inland from Dunedin for a
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Speaker 3: few days, and then he'll be back out late next week. So, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: we're still a week away at least yet, which is fine.
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Speaker 3: I reckon the last few years we've probably just been
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Speaker 3: early enough. So, yeah, it'll be good. Yeah, we're sort
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Speaker 3: of usually around that 12th of October. I reckon it's
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Speaker 3: just early enough potentially. So, yeah, we'll probably be around
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Speaker 3: the 15th or something next week, which is good to
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Speaker 3: get some tails off. That'll be essential. We'll do everything
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Speaker 3: apart from the hoggets in one day, which is great.
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Speaker 3: And track the work. Haven't started yet, but I'm waiting
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Speaker 3: on a contractor to come, I'm a local fella to
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Speaker 3: come and plough all of the Swede and Fodderbeek ground,
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Speaker 3: which we don't usually do, but we just, you know,
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Speaker 3: it was that wet, we made that much of a
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Speaker 3: mess of it. If we were to put the grubber
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Speaker 3: and the rotospike in there, we'd just spend so much
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Speaker 3: time trying to beat down big hard lumps of soil
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Speaker 3: that we're all soupy in the winter and trying to
18:09
Speaker 3: beat them back down again, I reckon it's better just
18:11
Speaker 3: to bury them and get some fresh topsoil up on
18:14
Speaker 3: top of the ground to give us a reasonable seedbed
18:17
Speaker 3: and it'll get all planted out in grass in time
18:19
Speaker 3: and the grass roots will get that harder, lumpier stuff
18:24
Speaker 3: back into reasonable soil structure in time. It's the best
18:29
Speaker 3: thing for or soil structure is grass growing and get
18:33
Speaker 3: some roots into it. So that's what we'll do. So
18:35
Speaker 3: I'm waiting on him. He'll be early next week, I think.
18:39
Speaker 3: So conditions are good now for Matt, I reckon. There's
18:43
Speaker 3: a couple of damp spots I might throw the grubber
18:45
Speaker 3: through in the weekend, just open them up. But he
18:47
Speaker 3: should get all that ploughed, no problem at all next week.
18:50
Speaker 1: Just a massive shout-out to all the contractors out there,
18:52
Speaker 1: whether you're tailing or you're getting the tractors in the paddocks,
18:56
Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty full-on over the next few weeks, Nige.
19:00
Speaker 1: And if it's anything to go by, a couple of
19:02
Speaker 1: photos on social media yesterday, be prepared to have the
19:05
Speaker 1: sneak chain handy.
19:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I might have seen those same photos, actually.
19:10
Speaker 1: Mr Shallard.
19:14
Speaker 3: Not naming names.
19:15
Speaker 1: Not naming names. No, there's various ones around.
19:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, and, look, it's always just what happens this time
19:22
Speaker 3: of year. We've all got jobs to do. Contractors have
19:27
Speaker 3: got a list of farmers ringing and wanting jobs done,
19:29
Speaker 3: and so you start to push the boundaries when things
19:31
Speaker 3: get a bit tight. But, yeah, there's no substitute for horsepower,
19:36
Speaker 3: so you just keep adding tractors on the front until
19:38
Speaker 3: you get it out. But, yeah, look, we shouldn't have
19:43
Speaker 3: to worry too much about that around here. But, yeah,
19:45
Speaker 3: definite shout-out to all the contractors who are under the
19:47
Speaker 3: pump It's a busy time. of year anyway without being
19:54
Speaker 3: put back. Again, Hayden, who's coming to do this ploughing here,
19:58
Speaker 3: he said he usually likes to make a start on
20:00
Speaker 3: his ploughing in September, just get the odd early lee
20:03
Speaker 3: paddock tipped over and just make a start. But he
20:05
Speaker 3: hasn't turned a wheel yet. he hasn't done anything so
20:10
Speaker 3: everybody's everybody's behind it's just life like I said 10
20:17
Speaker 3: days ago when my tailing contractor rang and said when
20:20
Speaker 3: do you want to do some tailing the idea of
20:22
Speaker 3: a land cruiser and a tailing pen getting around the
20:24
Speaker 3: farm just wasn't even anywhere near doable at the time
20:28
Speaker 3: but you'd get around a piece of cake there now.
20:31
Speaker 1: You do quite a few calves there too as well
20:33
Speaker 1: do budding and the likes must be coming up Yeah, so.
20:37
Speaker 3: The last of them will get debutted this afternoon. So
20:41
Speaker 3: we rear, well, traditionally we've reared sort of 60-odd. We
20:45
Speaker 3: bumped it up a bit last year, and then friends
20:47
Speaker 3: of ours bought a lifestyle block this year that's got
20:51
Speaker 3: a big set of covered yards on it. So we
20:57
Speaker 3: have filled that with calves as well, so we're rearing
21:00
Speaker 3: about 140 in total. And yeah, so the ones over it,
21:04
Speaker 3: Our friends' place are getting debuttered today, which are the
21:07
Speaker 3: later ones, but they are looking an absolute picture. I'll
21:10
Speaker 3: tell you what, the calves are enjoying the warmth as well.
21:13
Speaker 3: You know, the old sun-filled shed, the calves just laying
21:16
Speaker 3: there in the sun, it's really awesome. So we'll get
21:18
Speaker 3: the last of them debuttered and they're probably, well, I
21:23
Speaker 3: think we've only got, what have we got, about 20,
21:27
Speaker 3: 22 or 23 still on milk at our place, the
21:29
Speaker 3: rest of them are weaned. Southern are still in the
21:32
Speaker 3: shed just eating pellets and straw. They'll go outside the
21:34
Speaker 3: next few days and we've got a handful out in
21:38
Speaker 3: a nice sheltered paddock. So yeah, that time of year.
21:42
Speaker 1: Must be a pretty good lifestyle block if it's got
21:44
Speaker 1: a set of covered yards on it.
21:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's actually the homestead and yard off a
21:51
Speaker 3: farm that went to trees. Yeah, so it's for 12
21:57
Speaker 3: or 14 hectares we put a land and then they've
22:00
Speaker 3: got a bigger set of covered yards than we do
22:01
Speaker 3: on their 14 hectares so we just sort of said
22:05
Speaker 3: to them in the wintertime would you be open to
22:08
Speaker 3: filling your shed up with calves and they're doing the
22:11
Speaker 3: feeding and everything, we just paid for everything got all
22:14
Speaker 3: the sheds set up and we'll pay them per head
22:17
Speaker 3: for their time and labour and the use of the
22:19
Speaker 3: shed so it works well for them and it works
22:23
Speaker 3: well for us because it's one thing, we've wanted to
22:26
Speaker 3: rear more calves for years but we're just really limited
22:28
Speaker 3: on shed space so um it's it's essentially giving us
22:32
Speaker 3: shared space that we don't have to build a big
22:36
Speaker 3: shed ourselves here.
22:37
Speaker 1: Who are your mates name give them a shout out.
22:39
Speaker 3: Oh kelly and toilet they're um doing a bloody good
22:42
Speaker 3: job i'll tell you what their calves are over there
22:44
Speaker 3: look an absolute picture they're big and round and glossy
22:47
Speaker 3: and looking epic so um yeah they're doing a doing
22:50
Speaker 3: a real good job which is pretty cool because it's
22:52
Speaker 3: first time they've read calves but um Yeah, hopefully it
22:57
Speaker 3: works for everybody. It's a bit of a trial run
22:59
Speaker 3: this year, but if it keeps working, then we might
23:01
Speaker 3: keep doing it in the future, and maybe even they
23:04
Speaker 3: might get to a stage where they can raise some
23:06
Speaker 3: calves themselves and sell them on the open market.
23:09
Speaker 1: Good on you, Nige. Always a pleasure to catch up.
23:11
Speaker 1: Enjoy the weekend.
23:13
Speaker 3: Nah, very good.
23:14
Speaker 6: Cheers, Andy.
23:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, and hope all the listeners out there are enjoying
23:16
Speaker 3: the sunshine and getting some jobs done. This is what
23:20
Speaker 3: it should be like, eh?
23:24
Speaker 1: Nigel Woodhead in South Otago catching up on a regular basis. No,
23:28
Speaker 1: he's got to catch up with Nigel. Yeah, just be
23:31
Speaker 1: careful regarding those tractors in the paddocks as well. Sneak
23:34
Speaker 1: chains are going to be a big ticket item at
23:38
Speaker 1: the moment on Imagine. Doug Avery's up next. You're listening
23:41
Speaker 1: to The Muster.
23:41
Speaker 3: So I walk up on.
23:45
Speaker 1: High And I step to the edge To see my
23:52
Speaker 1: world below Welcome back to the muster. Doug Avery, the
23:57
Speaker 1: resilient farmer. He wrote a book with that exact title.
24:02
Speaker 1: Just looking at the season, it's about perspective. It's something
24:05
Speaker 1: that needs to happen at the moment where you've just
24:08
Speaker 1: got to look at what's ahead of you, I suppose.
24:10
Speaker 1: And Doug knows this as well as anybody, given what
24:13
Speaker 1: he's been through in the past. G'day, Doug. Always good
24:15
Speaker 1: to catch up.
24:16
Speaker 6: Yeah, how are you going? How are you going down there?
24:19
Speaker 6: Not so good, apparently, I think.
24:21
Speaker 1: This week's been better, and the forecast is looking, well,
24:25
Speaker 1: what is it, next four or five days at least,
24:27
Speaker 1: you know, early 20s.
24:28
Speaker 6: Oh, that's awesome.
24:30
Speaker 1: It had to happen.
24:31
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All these things end. The tough
24:36
Speaker 6: part is when, and, you know, when you think, well,
24:39
Speaker 6: we've had enough, usually if these extreme events are occurring,
24:44
Speaker 6: they've usually got one or two nasty punches just to
24:48
Speaker 6: make sure that you know they came.
24:50
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing with our Nino being told that
24:52
Speaker 1: it could be wet again towards the end of the month,
24:55
Speaker 1: but just having respite at the moment and looking back
24:58
Speaker 1: at what the last six to eight weeks have presented
25:00
Speaker 1: and just trying to look forward.
25:03
Speaker 6: Absolutely. So it's all, as farmers, we run a marathon,
25:09
Speaker 6: not a sprint. And when you're in the middle of
25:12
Speaker 6: a crisis, one of the most important mental strategies to
25:17
Speaker 6: have is to.
25:19
Speaker 6: To calm yourself down, to learn the skills, which resilience
25:23
Speaker 6: is what I spent my time trying to help pass on.
25:26
Speaker 6: Because when I went into those big dry years, I
25:28
Speaker 6: had virtually none. I'd actually been pretty spoon-fed. And when
25:34
Speaker 6: we went into there, five years of hell. And in
25:38
Speaker 6: the end, I really broke. I still kept looking after
25:41
Speaker 6: my animals, but I was just a shell of a
25:44
Speaker 6: human being. But the other night, I was involved in
25:49
Speaker 6: a webinar down for that area, and Cain Briscoe was
25:53
Speaker 6: on there. And his experience through his hard times and
25:57
Speaker 6: mine were virtually identical. And we both agreed that those
26:03
Speaker 6: tough years were, while not very pleasant, formed the basis
26:09
Speaker 6: for what we both have gone on to have great lives.
26:12
Speaker 6: Everybody in farming will have different environmental processes going on,
26:18
Speaker 6: but virtually no one, no matter where they farm, will
26:22
Speaker 6: ever be exempt from the sword of the environment. And
26:26
Speaker 6: there's two ways I look at that. One is, at
26:29
Speaker 6: least it's the environment, and you can get as angry
26:32
Speaker 6: as you like about what's happened, but you can't hit
26:35
Speaker 6: anything or square it up. It's going to deal to
26:38
Speaker 6: you anyway. But as human beings, we have the capacity,
26:42
Speaker 6: and it's what I've spent the last part of my
26:44
Speaker 6: life trying to do, is help people grow the capacity
26:49
Speaker 6: from these events to make it so that the next
26:52
Speaker 6: time they come, they're more able to cope. You'll never
26:56
Speaker 6: stop the rain. You'll never stop the lack of rain,
26:59
Speaker 6: is what we always say. But you can improve your
27:04
Speaker 6: travel capacity. and as I said before farming's a marathon
27:08
Speaker 6: not a sprint and if you take that approach when
27:11
Speaker 6: these times happen there's sort of really destructive thinking like
27:16
Speaker 6: when you start thinking about what you're missing out on
27:19
Speaker 6: and how much money you're losing or whatever but the
27:22
Speaker 6: far more productive thinking is when you start thinking how
27:26
Speaker 6: can I minimise the damage and that's always damn hard
27:32
Speaker 6: but Even better still, how can I look after myself
27:35
Speaker 6: so that I'm ready to go the best I possibly
27:38
Speaker 6: can when this bloody crap, for want of a better word,
27:42
Speaker 6: is finished? And that's your best shot. And minimizing damage
27:48
Speaker 6: and harm, firstly to yourself and then to your bank
27:51
Speaker 6: balance and to your natural capital, the better you are
27:55
Speaker 6: at that, the sooner you spring back. And that's real
27:58
Speaker 6: hard to dish out when you're getting day after day
28:00
Speaker 6: after day torrential ice-cold rain during lambing or whatever.
28:04
Speaker 1: Just how important is it to give yourself some time
28:07
Speaker 1: to go and do something that you want to do
28:09
Speaker 1: that's off-farm, Doug, because it's too easy at this time
28:12
Speaker 1: of year to get the one-track mind regarding work and workload?
28:17
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's huge. That's huge. And the other night on
28:20
Speaker 6: that seminar, I talked about something that we developed at
28:24
Speaker 6: Bonneveree I went into that time as a little robot worker.
28:30
Speaker 6: I just used to be up earliest, work hardest, work longest.
28:35
Speaker 6: I prided myself on how much work I could do.
28:39
Speaker 6: When I'd been completely mauled by the environmental drought that
28:44
Speaker 6: was thrown on us, I changed my whole entry point
28:49
Speaker 6: into agriculture. And over that time, we developed a thing which,
28:53
Speaker 6: I didn't use these words quite so much, but I was...
28:56
Speaker 6: at the Crusaders headquarters with the Xander McDonald Awards recently.
29:01
Speaker 6: And Colin Mansbridge, the CEO of the Crusaders, used the
29:04
Speaker 6: word servant leadership. And I thought to myself, well, that's
29:07
Speaker 6: exactly what we've been applying at Bonneveree. So, you know,
29:12
Speaker 6: some people haven't got employees, but a lot of farms have.
29:16
Speaker 6: And one of the magic things about having a team
29:19
Speaker 6: approach to your farming is that when you go into
29:22
Speaker 6: hard times like you're going through down there at the moment,
29:26
Speaker 6: there's more heads to share the load. And so a
29:29
Speaker 6: servant mentality means employing the very, very best people you
29:34
Speaker 6: can when things are trucking along really well and then
29:38
Speaker 6: working with them. to help grow the absolute potential of
29:43
Speaker 6: them and then all of your sudden you'll find oh
29:46
Speaker 6: my gosh I'm loving this I'm loving growing people as
29:51
Speaker 6: became for us actually more important than growing lucerne or
29:55
Speaker 6: crops or whatever and we found when we grew people,
29:59
Speaker 6: the whole joy of farming changed. And the great thing
30:03
Speaker 6: about that is you get buy-in from those people, and
30:06
Speaker 6: at tough times, they help soldier it as well. You
30:10
Speaker 6: can create fun within the team. You can just take
30:16
Speaker 6: turns at actually relieving each other of the absolute bottom-gear grind.
30:23
Speaker 6: And I think there's a lot in that to think about.
30:25
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of people have sort of leadership
30:32
Speaker 6: from the top and are sort of looking down on
30:35
Speaker 6: everyone else in their team. And then when they get
30:37
Speaker 6: tough times, they feel that they have to even lead harder.
30:40
Speaker 6: And often human beings are already near the end of
30:45
Speaker 6: their tether. And, you know, the difference between one person
30:49
Speaker 6: and the next in terms of mental capacity is is
30:55
Speaker 6: not that great, you know. And if you actively use
31:00
Speaker 6: your down times or your bad times to start building
31:05
Speaker 6: a more resilient mindset and capability, the end result's quite amazing.
31:10
Speaker 6: And I feel that I've lived that. I'm sort of
31:14
Speaker 6: off the farm now and living the dream.
31:19
Speaker 1: That's the way we want to see it in life,
31:20
Speaker 1: Doug Avery. Always appreciate your time on The Muster. Enjoy
31:23
Speaker 1: your weekend, mate.
31:25
Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks very much. You take care.
31:29
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31:33
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31:36
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Speaker 1: Country based in Dunedin, formerly of Balclutha and joins us. G'day.
32:03
Speaker 7: G'day, formerly of Balclutha. Thanks for that and reminding everyone
32:07
Speaker 7: down in Balclutha that, you know, I came from there.
32:11
Speaker 1: There was a stat that came out this morning about
32:14
Speaker 1: Balclutha having the least amount of sunshine hours in New
32:16
Speaker 1: Zealand and Nelson having the most. And the mayor there,
32:20
Speaker 1: Jock Martin, saying, well, it's not about the weather, it's
32:22
Speaker 1: about the individuals. And you've got to agree, especially after
32:26
Speaker 1: the spring we've had. So I think it was just
32:28
Speaker 1: one of those clickbait articles that I... I don't know,
32:30
Speaker 1: I clicked on it.
32:32
Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw that as well. I think it might
32:33
Speaker 7: have been actually... Was it on the front page of
32:35
Speaker 7: the ODT, that article as well, about the sunshine hours?
32:38
Speaker 3: But.
32:39
Speaker 7: Yeah, hopefully summer is coming, but then with the super
32:42
Speaker 7: El Nino, as people are predicting, hopefully not too much
32:45
Speaker 7: and not too dry for the farmers down there. And
32:47
Speaker 7: I'm just hoping it's not really windy. There's nothing worse
32:50
Speaker 7: than a whole lot of wind, I don't think, and
32:52
Speaker 7: it dries stuff out just so quickly. And I was
32:54
Speaker 7: talking actually to a farmer from Balclutha, believe it or not,
32:58
Speaker 7: that I met up at the Stern Angus broadcast, Andy,
33:01
Speaker 7: and he was saying he couldn't believe the difference between
33:03
Speaker 7: up there where we were. So we were just 11
33:06
Speaker 7: kilometres out of Pleasant Point, Grass growth up there is nuts.
33:11
Speaker 7: It's amazing. It looks so different. He said he couldn't believe.
33:13
Speaker 7: He said it's like chalk and cheese driving between the
33:15
Speaker 7: two places.
33:16
Speaker 1: Right, MPC ahead of the weekend. Look, quarterfinal stage, Otago's
33:20
Speaker 1: in there. Wellington Lions, no.
33:23
Speaker 7: Yeah, so Wellington Wooden Spooners, which we were just talking
33:26
Speaker 7: about off air, kind of shocked me a little bit
33:28
Speaker 7: because if you'd said a few years ago that Wellington
33:30
Speaker 7: would be at the bottom of the MPC, I don't
33:32
Speaker 7: know that people would believe it. Of course, they beat
33:34
Speaker 7: Southland to the bottom. Southland were, I think, second last
33:38
Speaker 7: in that. And we've got the quarterfinals, which is really exciting. Otago,
33:41
Speaker 7: Hawke's Bay, I think tomorrow at 4 o'clock. I think
33:45
Speaker 7: it is. And then we've got North Harbour and Tauranaki
33:49
Speaker 7: tomorrow as well. Northland and Tasman play tonight. And Canterbury,
33:51
Speaker 7: who are currently the top, are playing Waikato on Sunday
33:55
Speaker 7: at 1.35. Now, Canterbury had a really rocky start, didn't they, Andy?
33:58
Speaker 7: They lost the Shield to start with, but then they
33:59
Speaker 7: had five wins on the trot, I think.
34:01
Speaker 1: That's how they rolled last year. Same scenario.
34:04
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of like that first warm-up game and
34:06
Speaker 7: then they get going and it's all over. But do
34:08
Speaker 7: you think the loss of the All Blacks with the
34:10
Speaker 7: Bledisloe Cup on this weekend, is that going to make
34:12
Speaker 7: a difference?
34:13
Speaker 1: Oh, possibly, but they had to... Actually, not really, because
34:16
Speaker 1: they played the duration of the campaign while the South
34:19
Speaker 1: African series was on.
34:21
Speaker 7: That's true. Yeah, you're right. It could be interesting times.
34:23
Speaker 7: Do you think Canterbury are going to take it out?
34:25
Speaker 1: I think Canterbury is there or thereabouts. I'd love to
34:27
Speaker 1: say likes of Harbour or Northland, especially North Harbour. They
34:31
Speaker 1: took a locals only approach last year with their playing roster.
34:35
Speaker 1: They lost all their games bar that last one. They
34:37
Speaker 1: beat Stags in the last play of the game. But
34:39
Speaker 1: this year, it sounds as though that squad stayed together
34:42
Speaker 1: and they've seen the fruits of their selections, so to speak.
34:45
Speaker 1: So they've done really well.
34:47
Speaker 7: Do you think Otago are going to beat Hawke's Bay?
34:50
Speaker 1: You'll beat Hawke's Bay. Hawke's Bay's goose is cooked. They've
34:53
Speaker 1: lost four in a row. They started strong, but they've wilted,
34:57
Speaker 1: and they should have beaten counties last weekend, let's be honest.
35:00
Speaker 1: I mean, you can say the allure of the shield,
35:02
Speaker 1: but I'll be honest, there was pressure involved in that game,
35:05
Speaker 1: but the standard of rugby wasn't great.
35:08
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love the MPC and Heartland Rugby for that reason,
35:11
Speaker 7: that it's like that grassroots level... rugby and it's so
35:14
Speaker 7: good to watch and the fact that you can watch
35:15
Speaker 7: it all on demand well not Heartland obviously but the
35:19
Speaker 7: NBC is really great and it is great watching as
35:22
Speaker 7: well but as usual go Otago in my box would
35:25
Speaker 7: you switch allegiance to Otago since.
35:26
Speaker 1: They're No I'm just watching it for what it is
35:28
Speaker 1: now my team's not there Fair enough.
35:31
Speaker 7: That's showing some true allegiance.
35:34
Speaker 1: You'll watch it if it's on telly, but Tiana Young
35:36
Speaker 1: Farmer's bar cap's on tomorrow, so I'm going along to that,
35:39
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Look, just to wrap up as well,
35:42
Speaker 1: talking about going analogue.
35:44
Speaker 7: Yeah, so this was a trend that started at the
35:46
Speaker 7: start of the year, Gen Z started going analogue, which
35:49
Speaker 7: basically means going back to the things that we grew
35:51
Speaker 7: up with, Andy, things like digital cameras. Books, records. Do
35:56
Speaker 7: you remember going down to the music store and getting
35:58
Speaker 7: a CD or asking for a.
35:59
Speaker 1: I remember going back down to the record store and
36:02
Speaker 1: buying tapes.
36:03
Speaker 7: Yes, and asking for the music store to order them
36:06
Speaker 7: in or booking one when the new one came in
36:09
Speaker 7: for the band that you loved. All that stuff was
36:11
Speaker 7: really exciting times. I had a Discman. I think it's
36:13
Speaker 7: still at home somewhere.
36:15
Speaker 1: A Discman? Try a Walkman.
36:17
Speaker 7: Oh, Walkmans, they were great. I've got one of them
36:19
Speaker 7: as well, a classic one. It's probably actually worth a
36:21
Speaker 7: bit of money to someone. But Gen Z are even
36:23
Speaker 7: going back to the old headphones with a cord because
36:25
Speaker 7: the sound quality is better than Bluetooth, apparently. So really
36:29
Speaker 7: interesting times. Now, the analog thing, though, what drove this
36:32
Speaker 7: up for me was that a few weekends ago, I
36:34
Speaker 7: decided that I would give this a go. I put
36:36
Speaker 7: my phone on airplane mode and read a physical book.
36:40
Speaker 7: And I tell you what, it did wonders for my brain,
36:43
Speaker 7: made me feel better just that one or few hours
36:45
Speaker 7: of doing that. And there is a lot of evidence
36:47
Speaker 7: to prove that it does help with your nervous system,
36:50
Speaker 7: obviously better attention and memory, we're losing that a little bit,
36:53
Speaker 7: improved sleep, and yeah, it just helps with all those things.
36:57
Speaker 7: So if you're feeling a bit stressed out, a bit overwhelmed,
36:59
Speaker 7: a bit It's too much right now. I'd say go
37:02
Speaker 7: turn your phone on to airplane mode and just switch off,
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Speaker 7: even if it's just for a couple of hours so
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Speaker 7: that no one can contact you. You're not switching through
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Speaker 7: social media. And just chill. Do something that you like.
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Speaker 1: I'd suggest go outside, mow the lawns, get active. Actually
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Speaker 1: get a pen and paper and write things down. Don't
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Speaker 1: compute it.
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Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely. Do you think the younger generation are going
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Speaker 7: to know how to write a letter?
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Speaker 1: Probably not. If you gave them a piece of paper
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Speaker 1: now and said, right, go and write this out and
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Speaker 1: how you'd formally write a letter, they'd have no idea.
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Speaker 7: No, or how to post one. I'm pretty sure in
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Speaker 7: a few years' time, younger people are going to look
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Speaker 7: at post boxes and be like, what are they for?
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Speaker 1: Well, that's like the phone boxes, telecom phone boxes.
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Speaker 7: Does this mean my stamp collection is actually going to
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Speaker 7: be worth money now?
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Speaker 1: Possibly in a wee bit of time. How many stamps
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Speaker 1: you got?
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Speaker 7: I have no idea. They're in a wardrobe at Mum
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Speaker 7: and Dad's. I was a big narrator as a kid,
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Speaker 7: so I collected stamps.
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Speaker 1: No judgment on this show, Michelle. Enjoy the weekend.
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Speaker 7: You too, mate.
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Speaker 1: Go harbour in Northland. Michelle Watt and the Country Crossover, thanks,
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Speaker 1: of course, to Bioactive Soils. Elliot Smith's up next. This
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Speaker 1: is The Muster.
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Speaker 6: Oh, haven't let your light shine down.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the muster. Elliot Smith joins us next.
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Speaker 1: Lead rugby caller on Newstalk ZB. He'll be doing the
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Speaker 1: commentary for the All Blacks Wallabies out of Eden Park
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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Elliot, good afternoon. The Wallabies are in town.
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Speaker 1: They haven't won at Eden Park since 1986. The All
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Speaker 1: Blacks haven't lost there since 1994. Does this play on
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Speaker 1: the mind of Les Kis and his team? Well, I
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Speaker 1: think so.
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Speaker 4: But also, they've got nothing to lose, really, because... The
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Speaker 4: Wallabies teams have come here and failed. And so there's
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Speaker 4: really nothing to lose mentality, I suppose, with the Wallabies.
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Speaker 4: You come over here and you're not expected to win.
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Speaker 4: So anything you do, you know, closing in on a
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Speaker 4: victory or even getting a victory is seen as a positive.
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Speaker 4: You know, I was watching a game last night that
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Speaker 4: was on Sky from 2006. And, you know, that team
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Speaker 4: was stacked with Gregan, Larkin, Takiri, Phil Waugh. a host
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Speaker 4: of other players, and they didn't win at Eden Park. So,
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Speaker 4: you know, others have tried and failed before over the
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Speaker 4: last 40 years for the Wallabies. So I think there's
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Speaker 4: a mentality in their team of, you know, why not us?
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Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be a team of all-stars to
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Speaker 4: do it. And we saw them beat the Springboks a
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Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago. So I don't think it weighs
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Speaker 4: on their mind too heavily. They certainly get asked about it.
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Speaker 4: it plenty through the course of the week and the
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Speaker 4: same with the All Blacks and their Eden Park record.
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Speaker 3: But, you know, I think.
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Speaker 4: For the All Blacks, you know, that they grow an
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Speaker 4: extra league at Eden Park and that record, you know,
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Speaker 4: just grows and grows. At some point it's going to
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Speaker 4: have to fall and, Look, I don't know whether it'll
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Speaker 4: be tomorrow night or not, but certainly for the Wallabies,
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Speaker 4: they come across the Tasman with no fear.
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Speaker 1: As far as the Wallabies and where they're at at
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Speaker 1: the moment, yes, they beat the Springboks. It was very
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Speaker 1: much a changed line-up. What can we read into that?
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you can read it a huge amount.
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Speaker 4: We're still very early in Leskis' reign. He had a
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Speaker 4: couple of games against Argentina, a win and a draw
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Speaker 4: with and then that went over the spring box. So
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Speaker 4: he started about as well as you could hope for
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Speaker 4: a new coach starting their tenure. But I think these
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Speaker 4: two tests will be a real acid test for this
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Speaker 4: Wallabies team. The All Blacks are not at full strength
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Speaker 4: with those injuries that they've got, but this is the
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Speaker 4: barometer for the Wallabies. This is where they really do
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Speaker 4: test themselves and look for... where they're at in the
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Speaker 4: rugby world. So early in Leskis' run, I think it's
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Speaker 4: a good sign of where they're at. We've seen some
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Speaker 4: changes already, I think, for the Wallabies in the way
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Speaker 4: that they're playing. They tend to use the passing game
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Speaker 4: a little bit more, perhaps, than Joe Schmidt did, and
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Speaker 4: a lot of short passing to try and exploit gaps
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Speaker 4: around the park. We saw them have a lot of
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Speaker 4: success with the aerial assault against the Springboks a couple
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Speaker 4: of weeks ago, so I'm sure they'll try that again
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Speaker 4: tomorrow night. So I think this is a really good
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Speaker 4: early test for Les Kiss and co. as to where
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Speaker 4: they sit before they go on the end-of-year tour. You know,
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Speaker 4: just a year out from the Rugby World Cup on
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Speaker 4: home soil, they need to answer some questions. Look, they've
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Speaker 4: got injuries as well. Carter Gordon obviously out for them
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Speaker 4: at the moment, and no Hunter Paisami, but... So both
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Speaker 4: teams go in with a few walking wounded into the game,
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Speaker 4: but that's the way that rugby goes.
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Speaker 1: Who was unlucky selection-wise for this test for the ABs?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think Fabian Holland has to be considered very
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Speaker 4: unlucky from the fit and available players to not get
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Speaker 4: a look in this week. Scott Barrett and Josh Lord start,
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Speaker 4: Tupo Vail on the blind side, and he's a victim
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Speaker 4: of going with Tupo Vail on the blind side there.
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Speaker 4: There is no space for him in the 23. I
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Speaker 4: expect he'd probably play a role next week in Sydney,
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Speaker 4: depending on how tomorrow night pans out. But, yeah, I
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Speaker 4: think he can consider himself very unlucky because the way
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Speaker 4: he's come back from that shoulder injury has been nothing
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Speaker 4: short of remarkable. He was one of the All Blacks'
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Speaker 4: best on that tour of South Africa, but no room
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Speaker 4: for him this week. So I think he can consider
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Speaker 4: himself pretty unlucky. It would have been interesting to see
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Speaker 4: whether Fihifini Anganofu got a run before that injury, the
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Speaker 4: head knock and the hamstring injury that he suffered last
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Speaker 4: week playing for Bay of Plenty. That would have been
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Speaker 4: fascinating as well. And Ethan Blackett, I think, can consider
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Speaker 4: himself a little bit unlucky as well. I thought he
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Speaker 4: played really well in Baltimore last time out for the
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Speaker 4: All Blacks. And with Peter Lachai's selection of open side,
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Speaker 4: it kind of changes the way that they're looking to
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Speaker 4: use their open side when you consider that Jacobson had
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Speaker 4: held that for all the tests to before Baltimore, and
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Speaker 4: then a similar player in Blackadder had come through, an
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Speaker 4: industrious sort of workhorse player. Now they're going with Peter Larkin,
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Speaker 4: who's a bit more explosive. Certainly a change in the
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Speaker 4: balance of that loose forward trio that Dave Rennie selected.
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Speaker 1: Damian McKenzie at first five, Bowden Barrett at 15. I
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Speaker 1: suppose this is always going to occur with these injuries.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so.
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Speaker 4: Look, I would have liked to see Josh Dakin get
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Speaker 4: a go, but when you're steering down the barrel of
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Speaker 4: three straight losses in South Africa, the Eden Park record,
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Speaker 4: everything we've touched on there. I think you need to
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Speaker 4: go with the option that probably is the one that
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Speaker 4: you can back and is most reliable, and that is
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Speaker 4: Damien McKenzie, who's started plenty of test matches at 10 before,
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Speaker 4: although not since last year. Bowden Barrett at fullback. There's
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Speaker 4: a sense of reliability to those two players.
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Speaker 3: Josh Jacob might.
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Speaker 4: Get a look and maybe next week, depending on how
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Speaker 4: tomorrow night goes, but I think that was probably the
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Speaker 4: best option for Dave Rennie at his disposal. Mackenzie started,
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Speaker 4: as I said, plenty of test matches at 10. You
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Speaker 4: know what you're getting there. They're clearly not in the
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Speaker 4: first couple of options that the All Blacks are looking
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Speaker 4: to utilize with Love and Malonga, but it's, I think,
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Speaker 4: a case of needs must.
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Speaker 3: So he gets a go.
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Speaker 4: And look, I think there's a chance for Damian Mackenzie,
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Speaker 4: who's had a mixed season so far. He's being good
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Speaker 4: at fullback without being overly spectacular. Bowden Barrett's only played
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Speaker 4: nine minutes of Test rugby this year, so I think
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Speaker 4: it's a big chance for those two players just to
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Speaker 4: remind and perhaps assert themselves on the Test scene again
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Speaker 4: this season.
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Speaker 1: Regarding the NZR taking the NRL to task with the
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Speaker 1: Papua New Guinea Chiefs, they're saying this name is breach
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Speaker 1: of trademark or copyright for what the Chiefs are for
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Speaker 1: Super Rugby. Is there much in this?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually think there is.
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Speaker 4: I think the NRL have widely misjudged this one. Look,
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Speaker 4: you can probably argue the Blues and the New South
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Speaker 4: Wales Blues, there are a few issues there, potentially, but
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Speaker 4: they've co-existed quite well. But I think the issue is
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Speaker 4: that the Chiefs are going to be playing 26, 27
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Speaker 4: rounds of the NRL each year.
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Speaker 3: They're going to be in market in New Zealand.
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Speaker 4: I think there is the opportunity for contusion for the
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Speaker 4: casual fan, and NZR have the right to protect their
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Speaker 4: a trademark which they've operated with for 30 years so
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Speaker 4: um i'm fascinated to see how it plays out the
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Speaker 4: nrl seem to insist it's a big nothing but i
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Speaker 4: think you know if you're in new zealand rugby if
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Speaker 4: you don't protect your trademarks and you leave yourself wide
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Speaker 4: open so they've got to really protect this vigorously i
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Speaker 4: think you know for us you know sports heads and
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Speaker 4: fans we we know the difference between the two but
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Speaker 4: there's a chance of reputational damage uh you know if
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Speaker 4: there's a Chiefs player in trouble with the law, and
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Speaker 4: there's a headline on a website saying Chiefs star arrested. Well,
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Speaker 4: is it a P & G Chiefs player? Is it
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Speaker 4: a Chiefs rugby player? Whatever it is. So there's a
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Speaker 4: chance of some reputational harm, I think, there for New
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Speaker 4: Zealand rugby. So they're determined to protect their asset, protect
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Speaker 4: their brand. And, you know, I'm not a lawyer, but
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Speaker 4: it's going to be fascinating to see how it all
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Speaker 4: plays out.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Elliot. Have a good call this weekend.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be an interesting test.
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Speaker 3: Sure is.
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Speaker 4: Can't wait.
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Speaker 6: Thanks, Andy.
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