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The Surprise That Made Cath Cox Cry, Sarah Klau Fallout & Sharni on Survivor · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: Music Spring has sprung. Spring in Australia where you go
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  Speaker 1: to sleep in a winter woolly blanket and wake up
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  Speaker 1: needing a personal cyclone fan because summer decided to arrive
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  Speaker 1: at 9am. 9th of September, spring has sprung. Already time
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  Speaker 1: for me to start putting my spring cleaning off until
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  Speaker 1: next year, but you're on No Dribble. Strap in! Music
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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we
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  Speaker 1: talk about netball. We talk about so much more. My
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  Speaker 1: name's Carolyn Swindell.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Kath Cox.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Liz Ellis in my spring green today.
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  Speaker 1: You are spring green. Someone's sporting a summer tan already
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  Speaker 1: and I tell you, it stinks.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. I am very, very dark if you have a
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  Speaker 2: look at this. Well, see, we're going to Bali tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And you can't go all pasty, can you? So I've
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  Speaker 2: done the double up. There's a couple of coats on.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is now I want to marinate as much
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  Speaker 2: as possible, but it means I've got a drop sheet, Liz,
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  Speaker 2: because we've got our beautiful no dribble pink chairs. I've
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  Speaker 2: got a towel underneath me.
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  Speaker 3: So have you done that this morning?
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  Speaker 2: I've done it this morning, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Did you do it by yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is the thing, yes, because I can't
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  Speaker 2: justify spending money on a spray tan when I have
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  Speaker 2: all the tools at home and I've got a thousand
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  Speaker 2: different tans. So I did it this morning, but what
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  Speaker 2: I realised is when you're home alone, there's that top
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  Speaker 2: little middle part of your back that's going to forever
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  Speaker 2: be white because I could not, no matter how hard
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  Speaker 2: I tried, reach it.
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  Speaker 1: Are we going to be doing that after recording today?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I did. I was thinking about bringing it for
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  Speaker 2: you but then you wouldn't be able to reach it either.
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  Speaker 3: I can imagine Carolyn with like a little paint thing,
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  Speaker 3: just painting the little white patches.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there are plenty of little footstools in this house.
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  Speaker 1: We have a number of steps in every room and
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  Speaker 1: if my step gets moved, I'm enraged. It's like you're
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  Speaker 1: welcome to use my step but put it back in
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen when you're done with it. I need to
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  Speaker 1: know where it is at any given time.
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  Speaker 2: Is it for the kitchen mainly?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a.
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  Speaker 1: Kitchen one and there's also one in the, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what we call the room with the bookshelves, the library.
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  Speaker 1: We don't call it that, but we should call it that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so there's a couple of them. They shouldn't be moved around,
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  Speaker 1: but they do. There's no respect, no respect given at all. But, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you smell like a holiday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry about that. I'm being very careful not to
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  Speaker 2: put my arms down on the chairs and stuff at
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  Speaker 2: the moment. I can't guarantee your toilet seat won't be
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  Speaker 2: brown by the time I leave.
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  Speaker 3: So do you anticipate being that tanned or will you
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  Speaker 3: get a bit lighter?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, that's the problem with this stuff. 95% of
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  Speaker 2: it washes off. That's why I've gone hard early, as
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  Speaker 2: you can see. You look like Warnie. There's a few
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  Speaker 2: coats on me that will come off in about six hours.
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  Speaker 1: I have no expertise. I've had two fake tans in
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  Speaker 1: my life and I got professionals involved both times and
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  Speaker 1: I felt ridiculous both times.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny, isn't it? There's always a part to it.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm sitting here now and I can already tell
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to have white lines across my stomach where
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  Speaker 2: my fat rolls are.
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  Speaker 1: Sit up straight.
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  Speaker 2: And you know the bit just under your bum as well?
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  Speaker 2: Like I've had a few spray tans before and they
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  Speaker 2: always tell you to bend over to get that little
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  Speaker 2: bit under your butt so you don't get that white
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  Speaker 2: line there. You don't know what I'm talking about, do you?
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  Speaker 1: Well, of course I know the line under the bar.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, for God's sake, that's been part of my life.
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  Speaker 2: But the tan one. I mean, it's not going to
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  Speaker 2: be the best job, but it's better than the pastiness
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  Speaker 2: I was before.
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  Speaker 1: And what time do you fly out tomorrow?
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  Speaker 3: Four o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be having a champagne at the airport by two
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  Speaker 2: if all goes to plan.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: And if volcanoes stop erupting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not great. Good luck with that. You might
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  Speaker 1: get stuck over there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as long as I get stuck there and not here.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though. Your tan makes you look 28.
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  Speaker 1: Does it? Yeah, I think so. 28 or maybe 45.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing how much better it does make you feel.
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  Speaker 1: God, we had an amazing– in the group chat on
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  Speaker 1: the weekend, we had an amazing chat about 28 and 45,
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  Speaker 1: and I have been doing some research about these. So
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about– What age, if you close your eyes,
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  Speaker 1: what age do you think you are? And I said
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was, I closed my eyes and I'm 39. Liz,
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  Speaker 1: I think you said 28?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Or did you say 39 and I said 45?
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have said 39. I would have said younger.
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  Speaker 3: 25.
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  Speaker 2: 25.
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  Speaker 1: Well, 25, so there's now six stages. Demographers used to
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  Speaker 1: say that there were four stages of life, child, teen,
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  Speaker 1: adult and old. Now there's six. Child is zero to 12.
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  Speaker 1: Adolescent or training adult is 13 to 28. Training adult.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe that's why I was thinking that I'm 28
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  Speaker 1: or 29 because I'm just on the cusp of adulthood.
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  Speaker 1: An adult is now 29 to 45. There is a
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  Speaker 1: lifestyle period that I'm in, 56 to 64. Retirement, 65
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  Speaker 1: to 76, and old is now 77.
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  Speaker 2: So....
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was very interesting. So you are a
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  Speaker 1: child until you are 28 now. That would let a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people off the hook. But yes, both 28
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  Speaker 1: and 45, I did promise that I would do some research.
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  Speaker 1: We were all going to bring interesting facts. about 28
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  Speaker 1: and 45 today. I think I am the winner. 28
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  Speaker 1: and 45 are both triangular numbers. So you know when
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  Speaker 1: you're setting up the pool table and you've got the
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  Speaker 1: rack with the, how many balls are there? Nine, because
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  Speaker 1: it's one and then two and then three and then four.
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  Speaker 1: Both 28 and 45 are triangular numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Numbers.
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  Speaker 1: So you could, if you had a really big one,
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  Speaker 1: you could do 28 balls in a perfect triangle, you
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  Speaker 1: could do 45 balls in a perfect triangle. Not that
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  Speaker 1: many numbers fit into that. That's impressive.
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  Speaker 3: Good work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So 28 is also a perfect number, which means,
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  Speaker 1: of course, I don't need to explain this to you, Catherine,
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  Speaker 1: but I will explain it to Liz. It's divisible by 1, 2, 4,
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  Speaker 1: 7 and 14. And if you add all of those together,
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  Speaker 1: they equal 28. So those are my 28. I've got
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  Speaker 1: 28 and 45 interesting facts. So what did you bring?
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  Speaker 2: Was this actually homework?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This is the first I'm hearing of it.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: Where was this?
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  Speaker 2: On the group chat?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, on the group chat.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, did not see that. Or maybe I chose not
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  Speaker 2: to see it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God, it was the best group chat we've
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  Speaker 1: ever had, I reckon.
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  Speaker 2: On our no dribble.
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  Speaker 1: On our no dribble group chat.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: Because I was talking about country code of Denmark is 45.
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  Speaker 1: No country has 28. Yes, so we're talking about 28
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  Speaker 1: and 45. Liz, I hope you brought something.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, I've got nothing about that.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean you've got nothing?
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  Speaker 2: On our group chat.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the group chat.
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  Speaker 3: Catherine, this is very much the dog ate my homework
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  Speaker 3: sort of scenario.
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  Speaker 2: No, but the good thing is I have proof that
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  Speaker 2: the dog ate my homework.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to look at your settings. Liz, did you
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  Speaker 1: do the homework? Have you got anything interesting?
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  Speaker 3: I do. I've only got one little thing, but I
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  Speaker 3: managed to make 28 and 45 to do some homework
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  Speaker 3: to make it netball related, which doesn't always happen on
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  Speaker 3: this podcast, but I've made it netball related. So the
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  Speaker 3: Netball Australia Hall of Fame currently has 44 members of
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  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame and 27 athlete members. At the dinner,
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  Speaker 3: which is in October, we will induct our 28th athlete
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  Speaker 3: and the 45th member of the Hall of Fame overall.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that cool?
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  Speaker 2: That's a very good one. How did you find that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I found that out. I did because I have
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  Speaker 3: the best job that I get to do as chair
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  Speaker 3: is to ring the people who we are inducting into
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  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: My phone hasn't rung.
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  Speaker 3: Bugger. I know.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe your settings are wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Your settings are wrong. Because the last person I have
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  Speaker 3: to speak to to congratulate them is Catherine Cox. What?
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  Speaker 1: Would that be Catherine Cox, Netball Australia Hall of Famer 2026?
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  Speaker 1: Are you serious?
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  Speaker 3: She will be the 28th athlete and the 45th overall.
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  Speaker 3: There's a 28 and 45 for you, Catherine.
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  Speaker 2: Are you actually serious?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'm tearing up.
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  Speaker 3: I might tear up too. Congratulations. Oh, don't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm seriously chewing up.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 3: So there you go. Thank you. Holy shit. Oh, dear.
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  Speaker 3: So you know how you got your dinner invitation and
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  Speaker 3: you told me you couldn't afford flights?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: We'll cover your flights.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I can't believe it. Holy crap.
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  Speaker 1: There was no homework. This was all a set up. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God.
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  Speaker 3: Seriously.
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  Speaker 1: Your setting's a Hall of Fame compliant.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Catherine Cox is going to be inducted into the Netball
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  Speaker 1: Australia Hall of Fame on I think it's the 30th
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  Speaker 1: of October.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 1: This year down in Melbourne and so richly deserved. It
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  Speaker 1: is a.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we've got a whole range of problems now because
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  Speaker 2: now I'm going to have tans dribbling down my face.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. There'll be two other athletes inducted, but I can't
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  Speaker 3: tell you who they are. But you are an excellent company.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Far out.
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  Speaker 2: That just hit me. I didn't expect to react that way.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'll make sure I have something positive and constructive to
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  Speaker 2: say when it actually happens.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's nothing negative about what you're saying at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: You're just you're just having a moment and it's, it's huge.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Wow. That's exciting. I'm literally gobsmacked.
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  Speaker 3: Yay. So we'll be there to celebrate with you.
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  Speaker 2: I might have to bring my mum down with me.
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  Speaker 3: You absolutely should.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That would be nice.
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  Speaker 1: You must.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that would be great.
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  Speaker 1: I will.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. We'd love to have Francie there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, dear. Oh, my God, how good. I thought you
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  Speaker 2: were taking the piss then for a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Surprise. I just like watching your face do the cackle.
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  Speaker 1: What? What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 1: We've not been on the phone all morning talking about
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  Speaker 1: how do we do this and what we really wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do was make you, like, super confused.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it doesn't generally take much, but that one
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  Speaker 2: really had me going. Oh, wow. I'm still in shock.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: It's lovely. Yeah. It's wonderful. Yay.
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  Speaker 2: Yay!
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. Yeah, out of all the netballers in
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  Speaker 3: all the gin joints in all the world, There are
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  Speaker 3: only 28 who will be in the Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 3: and you'll be in.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. And so three will be inducted that night
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  Speaker 1: and we will find out after that night who the
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  Speaker 1: other two are.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, three will be inducted and one person will get
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  Speaker 3: the service award for excellent service.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: When were you inducted?
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  Speaker 3: It's an excellent question.
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  Speaker 1: 2011, was it? I was looking at this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God, that's a while ago.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, because Evelyn was a baby.
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  Speaker 1: Online.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow. It was like I was still breastfeeding because
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  Speaker 3: I had to get it dressed. Like if I accidentally
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  Speaker 3: just leaked, it didn't really matter.
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  Speaker 2: So 15 years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I know, but I'm an old duck. You kept playing
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  Speaker 3: for quite some time after I'd retired.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, is there a criteria
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  Speaker 2: about having to be retired for a certain amount of
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  Speaker 2: time or is that something else am I thinking of?
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  Speaker 3: Certainly the Sport Australia Hall of Fame there is criterion.
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  Speaker 3: And I think with Netball Australia is too. And you've
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  Speaker 3: just hit the limit of my knowledge because our History
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  Speaker 3: and Traditions Committee are in charge of this subcommittee.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Yes. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: I think they were just waiting for me to be
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  Speaker 3: chair so that I could congratulate you. That's what they
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  Speaker 3: were waiting for.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, everyone. Wow, wow.
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  Speaker 1: Well, should we just have a little break so you
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  Speaker 1: can collect yourself and then we might come back and
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: talk about some more. Nipple.
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  Speaker 3: Nipple.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so look, there is something that we need to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. It is not what we want to see
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  Speaker 1: coming out of our sport. Obviously, by now, probably everyone
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: is aware that Sarah Clough pled guilty to some common
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: assault charges. She has been, she's not received a sentence
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  Speaker 1: for that, but she admitted to having used violence against
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: a bouncer when she had been drinking a few months ago.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not what we want to be talking about,
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  Speaker 1: but we obviously do have to be talking about it today.
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  Speaker 3: And in having said that, thanks, Carolyn, I am going to,
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  Speaker 3: given my role as chair of Netball Australia, there is
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  Speaker 3: an integrity process that is in train. And in order
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  Speaker 3: to maintain the integrity of that integrity process, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to step out literally of this conversation and I'll leave
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  Speaker 3: it to you too. Thanks, guys.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously we need to talk about this. I especially
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  Speaker 1: need to talk about it after having gone so hard
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: the other day about violence in sport and with sports
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  Speaker 1: people and Let me just say there is no excuse
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  Speaker 1: for violence anywhere. So that is a full stop sentence.
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  Speaker 1: That's where that goes. But I will say. that we
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  Speaker 1: look at these things differently because it is not a
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  Speaker 1: systemic issue for netball. If you Google this, if you
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Google netballer alcohol assault, there's one entry that comes up.
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  Speaker 1: If you Google NRL alcohol assault or AFL alcohol assault
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  Speaker 1: or pretty much any other sport, you get pages and
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  Speaker 1: pages and pages of examples of this. So clearly, Our
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  Speaker 1: sport is needing to come to grips with something here.
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  Speaker 1: Like there may be some processes that need to change.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. There is an integrity investigation that will
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  Speaker 1: have to occur. There will be internal processes there. But
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  Speaker 1: I think it is really important that we differentiate there.
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  Speaker 1: between one incident and many, many, many years of examples
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  Speaker 1: of this happening with the men's sports. And so, I
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  Speaker 1: know the men with boats are going to get upset
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  Speaker 1: with me, but this is, you know, What we are
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  Speaker 1: looking at generally is there is higher incidence of violence
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  Speaker 1: on men to women, and often women are fearful for
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  Speaker 1: their life or for sexual assault. So there are huge
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  Speaker 1: differences in these things, and the sports have been responding
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  Speaker 1: to them differently. The men's sports have been responding to
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  Speaker 1: them differently. So the NRL has probably the most stringent
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  Speaker 1: in Australian sports here. And the reason I'm responding to
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  Speaker 1: this is there's a number of people in our Facebook
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  Speaker 1: group who are saying, well, she's got to be stood down.
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  Speaker 1: This should be the end of her career. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: involved in any integrity investigation with this. I am not
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  Speaker 1: as convinced that it is that black and white because
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  Speaker 1: it is not a systemic issue. So the NRL has
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: a No-fault stand-down where athletes get paid when they are
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: charged with an offence carrying a maximum court penalty of
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  Speaker 1: 11 years or more. So the CEO has a discretion
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  Speaker 1: to stand down a player if there has been violence
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  Speaker 1: against a woman or child involved, but it's only when
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: they have been charged with an offence with a maximum
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: court penalty of 11 years or more. We are looking
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: at here an athlete who was charged with an offence
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  Speaker 1: carrying a maximum of two years in prison. And the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Australian sister, under Australian law, an offender with no prior
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  Speaker 1: criminal convictions has a 2% to 3% chance of jail
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  Speaker 1: for a common assault charge. So there are a lot
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: of people coming out really hard saying her career should
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: be over. There's been some unfair advantage because she's an athlete.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I think those things are justifiably angry, but I think
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: they are somewhat misguided and a I think it's important
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: we have the discussion, but I think it's also important
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: that we point out the vast difference between female athletes,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: professional athletes, and male professional athletes.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I was actually a little perplexed when I saw this
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: because there is absolutely no excuse for violence, as you say, 100%.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: So Sarah Clough is in the wrong. I was shocked
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: that it was Sarah Clough. This is someone who is
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: one of the shyest people I have ever met. She
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: doesn't like winning player of the match because she doesn't
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: want to be interviewed. So It kind of shocked me
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: that it was her. But the other thing that's really
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: been of interest is around the timing of this. Sarah
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Clow didn't play the weekend in question because of injury.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Because of injury.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: But is out on the piss.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then we're not sure what Netball Australia knew
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: before she went to the Commonwealth Games. And I will say,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: setting aside, you know, again, no excuse for violence, but
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: that's this has got a bit of a stench about
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: it to me, the timing of it. And so that's
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: something I will be reserving judgment, but I'm really interested
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: to know what comes out there. And I don't know,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: you know, she is a young person. If I had
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: a young person in my life who was that same age,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: who was in that same situation, I would not be
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: assuming that they– I would be encouraging them to be
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: seeking advice and I really hope that she was getting
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: good advice on what– because it does look like there's some–
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: there was some judgment issues there around who knew what when.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And as a Swifts fan going along, cheering my team
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: and watching them not doing that great last season. There
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: is a bit of a burn about this, but I
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: think that's very different to a massive systemic issue here.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: So anyway, we will watch and we will watch with interest.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I've got some actually some good netball news, so let's
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: get Liz back in here.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, hang on.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Here she is.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: She's back. Well, thank you, Liz. We didn't talk much
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: about you while you were away. No, in fact, we
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: didn't talk about you at all. But there is some
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: beautiful netball news that came out of the weekend, and
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: it is a shame when we see these big things
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: overshadow the many, many wonderful things that happen. The Murray
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Little Shield occurred on the weekend. So this is the
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: All Ability Nationals, and they occurred in Melbourne this past weekend.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: And big thanks to long-time dribbler Terry Ellison, who is
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: involved in the coaching of the New South Wales team,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: who kept me up to speed on the excitement of
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Shall I give you a report?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Only if New South Wales won.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: You might want to drop off the podcast.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Only if netball was the winner.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Netball was always the winner.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Netball was absolutely the winner. So the gold medal match
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: was between New South Wales and Victoria.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Oh!
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Victoria won 25-19 and Terry said they were a well-drilled,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: strong and fast team. The bronze medal match came, the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: WA Swans were too strong for the South Australian Rubies
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: in that, but amazing. Apparently the whole comp is just
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: everyone cheering for everyone else and officials and players and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: so much joy. There was a four-all draw between the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: ACT Bluebells and the Northern Territory Dragonflies that was apparently
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: just a joyous occasion to behold and, yeah, a wonderful thing.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And particularly like to give a call out to the APTA.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: family who made a donation. They lost their daughter Sheridan
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: last year and Sheridan loved her netball and so they
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: made a donation to the Confident Girls Foundation and the
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Murray Little Shield and thank you very much to the
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Apter family for That beautiful, beautiful gesture and in Sheridan's memory.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: That's lovely. Thank you. Well done. I love the photos
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: out of the Murray Little Children. Oh, it's so good,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: isn't it? You know, like I love Super Netball and
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Diamonds photos and the athletes are so fierce and strong
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: and like it shows them at their best. And then...
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: The Murray Little photos are so different, but it also
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: shows the sport at its best as well. And it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: so joyous. Like the joy just comes through the screen,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't it? It's fantastic. And I think I say this
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: every year, but we've got at Ballina, and I know that,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: you know, at other associations I've been at, so I
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: played at Caringa and I played at Hawkesbury. There was
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: always an AWD, an Athletes with Disabilities team, who was
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: in one of the divisions. And so the team that
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I coach plays against them. And it's just... the most
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: beautiful part of your round. Like you're not playing for points.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: You're not playing to try and win. You're trying, you're
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: playing to try and bring the opposition into the game
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: and to give them a good Saturday afternoon. And like
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I coach 15 year old girls, they spend so much
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: time being really very cool until they play these games.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: And then they walk off with the biggest screams on
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: their face. They're like, oh, that's fun. And you go, yeah,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: that's right. And it's such a good thing. Like I
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: think our athletes, our kids get as much out of
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: it as the AWD kids that we play against, which
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: is just so valuable. It's fantastic.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I've asked Terri if I can be part of
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: her coaching team next year. She's politely agreed. Oh, yay!
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Terri, Terri, Terri, if you don't want Carolyn there, maybe
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: just DM Catherine or me and we'll talk about it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: But if you're okay with that, then that's cool too.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: She said yes under duress.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: So for dribblers who don't know, I am the highest,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: currently the highest accreditation holding coach in this netball chat.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: That is true.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I'm intermediate oh I know my team oh my god
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: speaking of coaching I think I I think I was
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the problem on Friday night we so my little team
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: played semis or prelims whatever we call it the first
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: week of the the finals and we had beaten this
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: team twice before throughout the season so we were feeling
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: pretty confident game started really well yeah half time we
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: would have been up by a couple But I cannot
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: leave a player on the sidelines. I had an injured
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: player that couldn't play with a broken arm. I had
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: another player on the sidelines. And I just thought, do
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: you know what? This is going well, yes, but I'm
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: not leaving her on the side. Good.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: They're 10. They're 10.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Excellent coaching.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: And people before the game were saying, oh, I reckon
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: we've got to go for the win. I just can't
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: do it. There's no way in the world I'm leaving
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: a kid on the side not getting involved. So they
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: didn't play as well when the change made. I made
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: some more changes in the final quarter. We lost the game.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: But do you know what? I so don't care.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: No.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And I even said to them before the game, I
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: don't care the result of this game. If we lose,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: we lose. I care about you not trying. I care
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: about you not having fun. That's what it is about.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: There is no pressure on you. Let's just go out
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: there and do that. You could see they were upset,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: but I was like, I'll take ownership of that one.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not leaving a kid on the sideline.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: But also, two minutes later, they would have been over being.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Upset, right?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, they would.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: One second later, as soon as someone brought out the lollipop,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: they'd have skipped off and beside themselves.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I 100% endorse what you did there. I think that,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you know, there's no, you know, once they start to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: get to reps and stuff, when they're playing reps, I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: understand that it's a different equation in the rep games. But, like,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: you know, club games, it's meant to be about fun
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and They're 10.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah. So, yes, it was disappointing, but it means
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: there's no training now.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's good.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Which is fortunate, given the look at me.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Well, Catherine, that is excellent coaching. Similarly, my under-15s team,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: we're now playing under-16s cadet, but mainly we're 15. We
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: won our semifinal on the weekend, and this is the
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: team that last year won our grand final. And last
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: year we trained every week. I was really hard on them.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: And this year I was like, no, we won the
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: grand final. No training because we've got kids who play
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: basketball and have got lots of other things on. So
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I said, no training. We'll just turn up. Saturdays are fun.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: We're back in the grand final next week. We won
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: the semi-final. And I said, okay, who wants to train
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: this week? And they all looked at me and they
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: were like, no. I was like, okay, see you Saturday.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I like that too. Not everything
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: is the World Cup. In fact, only the World Cup
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: is the World Cup.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Yes. All good luck though.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: That's exciting.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Coaching like a bloody hall of famer there, Catherine. So
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: at least it's coaching like someone who's been in the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: hall of fame a while and a bit more.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Does she think the kids are catching it by osmosis
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: or something?
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but it is funny, isn't it? Like
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: this year I've just, I've been so relaxed and the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: kids have been relaxed. They're playing with the smile on
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: their face and But, and Catherine, I think, I think
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: your move to play everybody is correct. Like last year
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: in the under 14s grand final. And I made the
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: decision at the start of the year that it should
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: be made the grand final. Everyone plays. And everyone played
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: in the grand final and, and we won and everyone
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: felt good about it. I would much rather that. Like
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: you said, Carolyn, in the, in reps, in the world cup, yeah,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: not everybody gets a turn, but when you're playing club
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: and everyone's got you there. And for some of, like
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: in our team, the girls who are the rep players
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: and that sort of stuff, some of them are rep
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: basketballers as well. So they can't be there every week.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: And it's the kids who aren't rec players who turn
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: up week in, week out. They're the ones who get
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: us there. They're the ones who are going to get
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: us home.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: The thing is, on the Monday training, I actually pulled
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: them in. I said, I want to know how you
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: want to play this. Are we going for the win?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Is that the single focus here? If that's the case,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: some people might not take to the court. Are we
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: all happy with that? And they all agreed to that plan.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I was the one that broke it because I just
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: couldn't cope with it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, so they're all agreed with that we're going to
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: win at all costs.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: But I think they all say that thinking that they're
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: going to be the one on the court too, right?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Like is that person speaking up that thinks they're going
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: to be on the sideline? It was me that broke.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I just thought I just can't do it. And you've
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: got your whole life to be under pressure and– To
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: be fighting for stuff right now, let's just have fun
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: and I'll take this one.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: I'll never trust you again, but well done.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: That's right. There's a trust issue there. But we had
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: a conversation last week, Kath. I meant to talk about it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: You didn't start shooting until you were 16. Yeah. You
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: were a defender before then. That's amazing, isn't it?
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And, you know, we had that great conversation in last
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: week's Friday's episode about– you know, one particular association with
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: some quite onerous requirements for rep and whatever, at 12.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, one of the greatest shooters
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: the game has ever known and you didn't even start
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: it until you were 16 years old. It's like just chill.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Everyone chill.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but how many times do we hear that? Like
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Rebecca Sanders didn't debut for Australia until she was 23
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: or 24. You don't have to be the best right now.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: You're not going to get overlooked, particularly if you're a
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Sydney kid or you're in a big city. There's opportunities everywhere.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Everyone just calm down and enjoy the ride. Don't burn
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: your kids out. Let them enjoy it. Let them enjoy
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: all sorts of things because ultimately it's making them better
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: at whatever it is they decide to settle on.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Yes, yes. My son went to regional athletics today
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: for discus and thankfully it wasn't that far away. Are
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: you serious? Yeah.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Just add another one.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, it's for school, right? Anyway, I turned up
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: and I ran into the school principal and he goes,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I hear you were dissing book week. And I'm like, no,
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: I don't need you to be listening to my podcast.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Anyway, it turns out they are having book week next week.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: So I must have got the message mixed up. And
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I said, oh, look, Austin's going to come as a
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: soccer player. And he said, they all do. I said,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: good chats. Thanks. Have a good day. But we got
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: the car the way home and Austin came middle of
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: the field. And I said, are you disappointed? He goes, no,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: not really. I said, that's good because you didn't do
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: any practice, even though you do, in fact, own a
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: discus and live on a farm. So there's heaps of room.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: And it turned out the only thing he cares about
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: is where the good milkshake shops are. So this was
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: today at a place where there's a good bakery. He
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, I can get a good milkshake and
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: a sausage roll, so that's why I wanted to come. But, yeah,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: that's a good attitude.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's a great attitude. I would Google where the
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: best coffee is no matter where I am. How does
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: he know this is a good milkshake in the bakery?
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Is he on the Googles as well?
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: No, because his father took him there one time. They
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: do things without my knowledge and consent all the time.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Love it. He's across all the good stuff. Poor Liz.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: We should move on from this though. It's obviously very
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: painful for her when her husband does the sports run
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and she doesn't have to be there. Okay, we'll have
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: a little break, come back, and there's some other stuff
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that's happened in the netball world and surrounds that we
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: need to be talking about.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Ooh.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Survivor.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Are you ready?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: How bloody exciting.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: How good.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: And do you know how long I have thought about
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Sharni Leighton or Sharni Norder, whatever she is at the minute,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: doing a reality TV show? Because she's such a big personality.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: She's made for it. I can't believe it took this long.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Kerry Podmast is also in it, I saw. Yep.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: So they've got Olympians. Who I was in the jungle
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: with for the I'm a Celebrity. So he put it
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: on our rice and beans. chat from the jungle last night. Who, who, who?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Adam Cooney.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, is he?
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he was in the jungle with us and
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: he was fantastic. He's such good value. So he's going into,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: he's done Survivor as well. He put on our group
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: chat last night. And then when I saw Shani this morning,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, my God, two of my faves in
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: the one show. I'll be glued to it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I will be too. But it doesn't start until 27.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I know. I saw the ad today. That's too long.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm an idiot and show that I really don't,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not very up to speed on my reality TV shows.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I said to Adam, so when can we vote? He's like,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: you don't vote in Survivor.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: No, it's a shame you don't vote because they have
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: to have some reality shows where the netball community can't
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: vote because it's an unfair advantage because we actually care
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: about our people. Hey, what reality show would you do?
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: What would you?
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I think we've had this show before, haven't we?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I've been asked to do SAS a few times.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Hell no.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: No.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, God, no one.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Needs to see me crying on television.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Price should do SAS.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: There's so many netballers that would be good at SAS.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Kate Maloney.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Sharni would be good at it. Oh, my God, Kate
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: would be amazing.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine? Yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, she'd be hard to break.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: What would you do, Carolyn? Yeah.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: What would you do out of all of them?
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I'd do Dancing with the Stars.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, would you?
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Would you?
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I think that would be so fun, so fun to learn.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I'd like to do Survivor, but I just– I've got–
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I'm a bit thin-skinned, so it's like I probably– what.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Do you mean? Why would you vote for me?
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Well, we know what you do and
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: do well, Elizabeth. I've actually hit Gordie up about coming
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: on the block with me.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, that'd be cool. I've been asked to do Dancing
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: with the Stars, but my answer is there's not enough
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: alcohol in the world to make me dance on television.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Giraffes on ice skates are not that good.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Actually, I'd like to do Nailed It. Have you ever
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: seen Nailed It? So it's a great one out of
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the US and they get– and it's– Oh, the cooking show?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: The cooking show.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, that would be great.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: And they get a cake and they say, now you
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: have to make a cake like that and people have
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: got three hours and it's always hopeless. It's always hopeless
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and it looks so fun. We could do a no
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: dribble nailed it. That would be fun.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, we could. That would be so much fun.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Liz and I have done Celebrity, ooh, what was it called?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: What was it with Grant Denya?
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: What was that called? That was fun. Is it Celebrity
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Name Game or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I've also been on Family Feud. We did Annette Buller's
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Family Feud. That was great fun as well.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: And then we did a cooking one.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, that was Ready Steady Cook or some other.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: With Polenta.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: With the Channel 9 thing happening, if we all get
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: jobs there, I'm desperate to go on Tipping Point. I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: love that show.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Catherine, I keep saying you need to go on Maths.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: No, not a chance in the world. Nup. Can you imagine?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I'd go on The Bachelorette.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: And you'd be the bachelor.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Not the bachelor. You'd be the golden bachelorette now, though.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, dear.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: But, you know, at least you'd end up with blokes
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: with jobs, right? What's the difference? You're golden.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Is it over 50?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that they have a specific age
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: for it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: No, you're right.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: It's normally in the 30s or something.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not 25, I'm sorry.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: No, I keep forgetting.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Not even 28, although you might be 28th.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Are you 28th?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Athlete to be in the netball australia hall of fame
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: um oh yeah that was that i i was very
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: excited to see that and i look forward to watching
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of good talk about that do
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you remember some weeks ago and i'm madly scrambling looking
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: for my phone here but we had a someone was
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: asking if um netball goes into the olympics how does
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it work with great britain and how do they all
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: participate and if i could find my phone i could
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: explain it to you because we have a lovely dribbler
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: sarah Sarah Gandon from the UK. Where is my phone?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Well, why don't you look for your phone? And I'm
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: going to give you guys an update because I know
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: you haven't slept since last week about my credit card
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: and the wand.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, stop it.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I thought you were giving us an Olympic update.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, I've got nothing yet.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, God, okay.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I am as intrigued about the wand, though. That happened
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: in real time last week when I thought the last
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: time I saw my wand with the credit card in
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: it was in my car. And I started to think, oh,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: my God, there's so many places you can lose one
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: of those things in like a big woofer Land Cruiser,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: which is what I had. And anyway, we had a
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: spring clean of the garage on the weekend. And you
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: know where I found my wand and my credit card?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Where?
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: In my son's cricket bag. So I don't know what
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: he's been doing with it. Oh, my God. If there's
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: a 10-year-old boy who's happy to dance down the street
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: with a pink wand, I'm like, you go for your life, mate. Anyway,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: he reckons he didn't buy anything with it.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I reckon there's a stack of milkshakes on there by
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the sound of it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I do. And it's a debit card, so I wouldn't
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: have noticed. I'm just a bit hopeless. Anyway, there you go. Oh,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: that's good.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It wasn't in the car. I lost an American Express
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: card and the last person to use it was my son.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: And so we've had him searching for weeks. It's like
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: there's no charges going on there. I had a close
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: eye on it. It's like, all right, this will show up.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: It'll be in the house somewhere. I ended up cancelling
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: the bloody thing. They got me a card the next day.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: So remember those ads in the 70s from American Express
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: when it's like, oh, what kind were they, Traveller's Checks?
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: And they had them there the next day. Well, I
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: got my new American Express card the very next day and,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: of course, we found it on the weekend just gone
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: on a couch where my son was playing, a recliner
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: couch where he was playing on the Xbox and he
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: left it in the reclined position and And I swore
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: and went over to put it back and then it's like,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: there's my credit card. So it's fallen out of the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: back of his pants at some stage. And because he's
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: been studying, he hasn't been gaming at all. So it's
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: like the couch hasn't been in use. But, again, a
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: happy story.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Because it's just the annoying thing is having to reset
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and give you a new card number to everything to
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: wreck debits.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: So annoying. All right, I found it. So this is
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Sarah Gandon who has come from the UK. It's still
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: in the UK. Just listening to your episode where you
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: ask about what the UK teams would do if we
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: got netball into the Olympics. I was the team manager
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: when we took a Great Britain team to the first
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: World University Championships. We had selectors from Wales, Scotland and
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: England and the head selector was the Welsh head coach.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: We had trialists from all three of those countries. Our
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: head coach was English. Assistant coach was Scottish. I'm Scottish.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: She was the team manager. Our physio was English. All
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: players were English in the end. Dodgy. But the Northern
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Irish players entered as an all-Ireland team. They had their
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Northern Ireland unis, head coach, staff, and I think they
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: were all from Northern Ireland. Anyway, Sarah's team, Team GB,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: did win gold, beating South Australia in a final that
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: went to extra time, and some of their players went
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: on to win the gold in the Gold Coast, Nat Medcalf,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Beth Cobden, Jodie Gibson, Kadeen Corbin. It was a shame
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Australia and New Zealand didn't send teams. It was a
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: great comp in Cape Town.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Beat South Africa or beat South Australia?
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: South Africa. Did I say South Australia?
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: You know what I also said last week when I
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: was talking about all of the players that, you know,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: how many gold medal New Zealand players are going to
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: be in Super Netball, how many silver medal Jamaican players.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: And then I went, and how many gold medal winning
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Australian players?
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: And it's like.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: There were no gold medal winning Australian players. I'm sorry.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: That was a complete wishful thinking slip of the tongue.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: But I did get that wrong. And no one came
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: at me, which I thought was really nice. We're all
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: in denial. Maybe no one's paying attention to what I say.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: That's about all we've got time for. I'm in Canberra
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: this Saturday night at the Canberra Theatre as part of
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the Sydney Comedy Festival, so Canberra dribblers, come and see me.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: And don't forget to buy your tickets for our Constellation
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Cup event.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: We have one special guest coming, confirmed, maybe two, and
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: they will blow your mind.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Blow your mind. It's very exciting. I wish we could
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: talk about it, but we can't. But I've also, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: said to Paige, are you coming, Paige Hadley? And she said,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: are you going to invite me? I said, of course
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to bloody invite you. So maybe we'll have Paige.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: So that is because she said she would but, you.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Know, that was unfair.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: But we have some unnamed extra special guests.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I can probably name one of them. She did
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: say she's coming.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, name her and then she can't pull out. Yeah, yeah, 100%.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Yes. Briony Akel.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Briony Akel. Assistant coach of the Silver Ferns.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: She's coming to join us. Great call, Liz Ellis, because
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: she can't now. Yeah.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so she'll be there with us. So that is
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: on the 24th of October. Get your tickets through our website, nodribble.com.au.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: That is all we have time for on this Hall
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: of Fame episode, my favourite episode I think of all
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: time actually.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Because I went mute?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: No, because it's really special to be involved in this.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Being here when you found out this news, you're well deserved.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: And thanks to Netball Australia for letting us be involved
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: in sharing this news. This is the podcast with all
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: the goss lately, right? Yeah. I mean, only confirmed gossip.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: We don't actually gossip gossip. But anyway, that's all we've
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: got time for. We will be back on Friday with
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: another episode. Thanks for joining us. My name's Carolyn Swindell.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I'm Hall of Famer Kath Cox.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm Kat's friend.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Also a Hall of Famer and I'm not.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: But anyway, see you. We'll find you a little Hall
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: of Fame. Bye.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: We can.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Love it. Bye.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Bye. Bye.