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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 4) (5/14/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  In this episode, we're gonna pick right back up where
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  we left off with the Glen Maxwell deposition. McCauley, are
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  you familiar with a person by the name of redacted? Maxwell?
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  I am McCauley has redacted given a statement to the
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  police about you performing sexual acts on her. Maxwell, I
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  have not heard that McCauley has redacted given a statement
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  to the police about Jeffrey Epstein performing sexual acts on her.
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  Mister Pagliuca object to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  I have not heard that McCauley. How do you know redacted? Maxwell? Redacted,
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  redacted and redacted McCauley was redacted under the age of eighteen.
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  Mister Pagliuk objects to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  I don't recall how old redacted was McCauley. Did she
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  tell police that Jeffrey Epstein assaulted her sexually? Mister Pagliuca
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  objects to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I never
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  heard that McCauley did or redacted recruit or bring girls
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  to the home that were under the age of eighteen.
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  Mister Pagliuca object to the form and the foundation. And
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  I think this has been asked and answered already. McCauley,
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  you can answer the question Maxwell, I have no idea
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  what redacted did. McCauley. You never observe redacted with girls
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  under the age of eighteen at Jeffrey Epstein's own Mister
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  Pagliuca object to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell, The
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  answer is no, I have no idea. McCauley. Do you
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  know redacted? Maxwell? I do. McCauley, what is your relationship
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  with redacted? Mister Pagliuk objects to the form and Maxwell answers,
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  what do you mean what is my relationship McCauley. Are
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  you friendly with them? How do you know him? Maxwell?
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  He is the husband of redacted. McCauley, is redacted one
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  of your friends? Maxwell? Yes, McCauley. Did you ever send
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  Virginia to redacted to give him a massage? Mister Pagliuca
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  objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell, No, McCauley,
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  did you ever instruct Virginia Roberts to have sex with redacted?
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  Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell,
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  I have never instructed Virginia to have sex with anybody ever. McCauley.
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  How old was redacted when she met Jeffrey Mister Pagliuka
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  objection to the form and the foundation? Maxwell, I have
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  no idea, McCauley. Was she under the age of eighteen?
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  Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation? Maxwell,
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  I just testified. I have no idea how old she was. McCauley.
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  You testified she was your friend. You don't know how
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  old she was when she met Jeffrey Maxwell. That happened
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  sometime in the seventies. How would I know, or the eighties?
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  I have no idea. Can you testify to what your
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  friends did thirty years ago? McCauley, You don't ask the
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  questions here, miss Maxwell? What about redacted? When did you
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  first meet redacted? Maxwell? I don't recall the exact date, McCauley.
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  Did you hire redacted? Maxwell? I don't hire people. She
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  came to work at the house to answer phones. McCauley.
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  Where did you meet her? Maxwell? I just testified, I
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  don't recall exactly where I met her. McCauley. Was one
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  of your job responsibilities to interview people that would then
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  be hired by Jeffrey Maxwell. That was one of my responsibilities. McCauley,
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  do you recall interviewing redacted? Maxwell? I don't recall the
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  exact interview. No, McCauley. Do you know what task redacted
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  was hired to perform? Maxwell? She was tasked to answer
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  the phone. McCauley. Did you ever ask her to rub
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  Jeffrey's feet? Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell.
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  I believe that I have read that, but I don't
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  have any memory of it. McCauley, did you ever tell
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  her redacted that she would get extra money if she
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  provided Jeffrey massages? Maxwell? I was always happy to give
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  career advice to people, and I think that becoming somebody
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  in the healthcare profession, either exercise instructor or a nutritionist
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  or a professional massage therapist, is an excellent job opportunity.
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  Hourly wages are around seven eight nine dollars an hour,
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  and as a professional health care provider, you can earn
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  somewhere between as we have established, one hundred to two
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  hundred dollars, and to be able to travel and to
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  have a job that pays that is a wonderful job opportunity. So,
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  in that context of advising people for opportunities for work.
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  It is possible that I would have said that she
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  should explore that as an option. McCauley, did you tell
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  her that she would get extra money if she massaged
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  Jeffrey Maxwell. I'm just saying I cannot recall the exact conversation.
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  I give career advice, and I have done that. McCauley.
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  Did you ever have redacted massage you? McCauley, I did,
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  McCauley how many times? Maxwell? I don't recall how many
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  times McCauley was there sex involved Maxwell? No, McCauley, did
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  you ever instruct redacted to massage redacted Maxwell? I don't believe.
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  I have no recollection of it. McCauley, did you ever
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  have sexual contact with redacted? Mister Pagliuca object to the
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  form and the foundation. You need to give me an
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  opportunity to get in between the questions, and that goes
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  for anything that involves consensual sex on your part. I'm
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  instructing you not to answer. McCauley, did you ever have
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  sexual contact with redacted Maxwell? Again, she is an adult. McCauley,
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  I'm asking you, did you ever have sexual contact with
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  redacted Maxwell? I've just been instructed not to answer. McCauley
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  on what basis, Maxwell, you have to ask my lawyer, McCauley,
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  did you ever have sexual contact with redacted that was
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  not consensual on Redacted's part? Mister Pagliuca, you can answer
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  non consensual. Maxwell. I've never had non consensual sex with anybody. McCauley,
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  not redacted. Mister Pagliuka objection. Maxwell. I just testified that
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  I never had non consensual sex with anybody ever, at
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  any time, at any place, at any time, with anybody, McCauley.
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  So if redacted were to testify that she did not
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  consent to a sexual act that you participated in, Maxwell,
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  I just told you that I have never, under any
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  circumstances with anybody, at any time, in any place, in
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  any form, had non consensual relations with anybody. McCauley. Did
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  you introduce redacted to redacted? Mister Pagliuca objection to the
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  form and the foundation. Maxwell, I've again read that redacted
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  claimed that she met me, or that she said she
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  met redacted. I don't know if I was the one
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  whom the introduction or not. McCauley, do you know a
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  female by the name of redacted? Maxwell, I do McCauley,
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  how do you know her? Maxwell? Redacted McCauley, so she
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  worked for you? Maxwell, Yes, McCauley, did you hire her?
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  Maxwell again, Jeffrey hired people. McCauley. Did you have sex
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  with her? Mister Pagliuca, This is the same instruction about
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  consensual or non consensual. McCauley was redacted under the age
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  of eighteen when you hired her. Maxwell, No, I didn't
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  hire her, as I said Jeffrey Epstein did. McCauley. Did
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  you ever have sex with redacted? Mister Pagliuka objection to
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  the form and the foundation. Maxwell, How would I know
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  what somebody else did? McCauley, You weren't involved in the
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  sex between Jeffrey redacted and yourself. Maxwell. We all ready
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  to this, McCauley interrupts her. Were you involved with sex
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  between Jeffrey redacted and yourself? Mister Pagliuka, Everyone is talking
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  over each other. You are the question again. You know
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  what the instruction is. If there is any consensual issue involved,
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  I instruct you not to answer. Maxwell. Moving on McCauley,
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  So you're refusing to answer that question. Maxwell, I've been
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  instructed by my lawyer to that. McCauley keeps hammering away.
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  Did you ever have sex with Jeffrey redacted, Virginia and
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  yourself when Virginia was underage? Maxwell? Absolutely not, mister Pagliuca,
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  We've been going for about an hour. I would like
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  to take a five minute break, please, McCauley. I'm almost done,
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  mister Pagliuka. You're not going to allow us a break. McCauley,
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  as soon as I get through my line of questioning,
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  which is perfectly appropriate, McCauley. Did redacted travel with you
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  and Jeffrey to Europe? Virginia? I'm sure she did. McCauley.
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  What is she doing today? Maxwell? I have no idea. McCauley.
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  Do you speak to her regularly? Now? Do you speak
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  to her? Maxwell? No? McCauley. Do you know where she lives? Maxwell? No. McCauley.
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  Do you know what country she lives in? Maxwell? No. McCauley.
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  Where's the last place you know that she lived? Maxwell?
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  Last place I knew for sure was in Los Angeles. McCauley,
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  when did she stop working for you? Maxwell? Two thousand
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  and one, two thousand and two, McCauley, what task did
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  she perform for you, Maxwell. She helped me with moving
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  in and out of houses, construction. She was a general help.
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  She helped with buying things that needed to be purchased,
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  if I needed her to stand in for me during meetings.
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  It was a very wide ranging job. McCauley. Did she
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  ever bring females to perform massages on Jeffrey? Mister Pagliuka
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  objection to form and foundation? Maxwell, what are you asking me, McCauley,
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  did redact? It was it ever redacted responsibility to bring
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  females to the house for the purpose of massaging Jeffrey Maxwell?
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  Redacted's job was to help me with the house and
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  work in homes. It was not her job to whatever
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  you just said, bring messuses. McCauley. Did she do that? Maxwell?
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  I have no recollection. I have no idea. McCauley. Did
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  you pay herd acted or did Jeffrey pay her? Maxwell?
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  Jeffrey McCauley, do you ever recall how much she was paid? Maxwell?
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  I do not, McCauley. I think we can take a
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  break now. After a short break, everybody's back and we
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  are on the record and starting disc number two. McCauley,
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  Miss Maxwell, I asked you about Virginia Roberts earlier. Can
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  you describe what Virginia roberts duties were when she was
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  with mister Epstein. Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and
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  the foundation. Maxwell, I believe that Virginia was a massus McCauley.
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  Was Virginia required to dress up in any way for massages?
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  Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, I
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  have no idea, McCauley, did you provide Virginia with outfits
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  to wear for certain massages? Maxwell? I have no idea
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  what you're talking about. McCauley. For example, did you ever
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  provide Virginia with a schoolgirl outfit to wear for a massage? Maxwell,
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  I have no idea what you're talking about, McCauley, so
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  you didn't provide her with that, Maxwell, as I just testified,
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  I have no idea what you are talking about. McCauley.
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  I was trying to interpret whether you didn't understand what
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  a schoolgirl outfit was or you were saying that it
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  didn't happen. Maxwell, I clearly know what a schoolgirl outfit is.
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  I have no recollection of providing anybody with a schoolgirl
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  outfit McCauley, did you have a set of outfits used
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  by the massage therapists that would include things like a
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  schoolgirl out there, or a black patent leather outfit, or
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  anything of that nature. Mister Pagliuca object to the form
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  and the foundation. Glenn Maxwell, that would be just another
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  one of Virginia's lies. McCauley, you didn't have anything like that, Maxwell,
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  I did not. McCauley, did you have a basket of
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  sex toys that you kept in the Palm Beach House?
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  Mister Pagliuka objection to the form and the Foundation. Maxwell,
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  First of all, what do you mean, McCauley, a laundry
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  basket that contained sex toys in it? Mister Pagliuca, objection
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  to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, can you ask
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  the question again, McCauley, did you have a laundry basket
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  that contained sex toys in it in the Palm Beach House?
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  Mister Pagliuca, objection to the form and the foundation. McCauley,
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  did you have a laundry basket of sex toys in
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  the Palm Beach House? Mister Pagliuca, same objection, McCauley. You
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  can add, Sir, Maxwell, I don't recall anything about laundry
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  baskets full of sex toys. McCauley, do you recollect having
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  sex toys at the Pond Beach House? Maxwell, you have
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  to define what you were talking about, McCauley. A sex
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  toy meaning a vibrator of some kind. Sometimes they are
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  called dildos of that nature, anything like that. Maxwell, I
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  don't recollect anything that would formerly be a dildo, anything
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  like that. McCauley, how would you describe the sex toys Maxwell?
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  I wouldn't describe sex toys. McCauley. Did you ever have
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  anything that was of an electronic nature that would be
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  used during sex? Mister Pagliuca, objection to the form and
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  the foundation. Maxwell, I have no idea what you were
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  referring to. Maxwell, Exhibit three marked for identification redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted, redacted.
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  We're talking about four pages of redactions. Then, finally, mister Pakluka,
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  objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, First I
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  have to read this. McCauley. Sure, I will stop the
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  clock while the witness is reading. Mister Pagliuca. No, McCauley, yes,
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  if she is going to read the whole document, I
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  will stop the clock, mister Pagliuka, if you've given her
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  documents to refresher recollection. We are on the clock here,
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  miss McCauley. Then we will take it up with the judge.
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  Mister Pagliuca read whatever it is you need to answer
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  the question, McCauley. I'm going to set the documents aside
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  and I'm just going to ask you a question independent
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  of the document. McCauley, do you recall having a basket
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  full of sex toys? Maxwell? I already told you I
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  did not. All right, We're gonna wrap up there, and
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  in the next episode we'll pick up where we left off.
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  All of the information that goes with this episode can
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