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A Life In Movies: Pat Byrne · All The Right Movies

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  All the rent movies. Hi everyone, welcome to ATRM
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  Meets, the movie interview show brought to you by All the Right
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  Movies. My name's Luke.
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  On the show we talk to people in entertainment about 5 films that
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  they've personally picked out that are important to them,
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  movies that they love. Today I'm talking to a musician
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  who came to prominence in 2012 as the winner of TV and music
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  show The Voice of Ireland. Since then he's released 3
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  studio albums to great acclaim, including his most recent Into
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  the Light, which came out in summer 2021.
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  It's a pleasure to welcome Pat Byrne.
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  Hi Pat, great. Have you on the show?
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  How you doing? Hey Luke, thanks for having me.
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  Delighted to be here and excited to talk about movies.
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  Great. Make it feel like it's a job.
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  That's that's a wonderful thing. Yeah, yeah, I struggle.
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  I often struggle to justify just watching films and say that I'm
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  working. I felt so because I watch movies
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  all the time and my girlfriend kind of hates it because she's a
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  very outdoorsy person. Yeah.
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  So it was nice yesterday to say I'm sorry I have to watch some
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  movies. I'm doing podcasts tomorrow and
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  it's this is real business right now, so.
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  That's the only excuse you need. Thanks for giving me that
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  excuse. It's a pleasure.
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  So where you're at, where you're talking from?
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  I'm in Austin, TX. I moved here four years ago,
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  right straight from Ireland, and I've been living here ever
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  since. I love it here.
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  And I've been riding out the pandemic.
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  Wow. Yeah.
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  But it's been great. It's a good place to be.
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  So have you still been able to do stuff with the new album like
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  tour and with the COVID restrictions?
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  Yeah, I was actually the the COVID restrictions helped me a
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  lot. So obviously I had a great year.
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  Well, first of all, everything got cancelled.
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  I had a year of of touring planned and that all got pulled
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  from under me. So I had nothing to do.
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  Ended up writing the album and then launched A Kickstarter
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  campaign online. I was doing all my shows online.
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  It was like Facebook live streams.
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  That's the only place I could perform.
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  And because of that, got to do this Kickstarter and raised 30
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  grand and and made an album all during the pandemic.
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  And because the pandemic was in full swing, all these great
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  musicians who normally would be on tour were available to
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  record. And so I got them.
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  And yeah, I got these really great musicians in Nashville to
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  record and spent the year making the album.
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  And then as soon as the album came out, the restrictions kind
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  of lifted and I was able to tour.
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  So it worked out and yeah, and and I'm in Texas.
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  So like I know back in the UK and Ireland, it's a whole, it's
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  a different ball game. It's been a nightmare for
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  people. But but it's been pretty wide
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  open for most of the time over here.
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  You know, there was a few, there was, there was like maybe six or
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  seven months where it was nothing was happening.
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  And then after that, things slowly open back up and you know
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  it. It's been pretty easy.
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  So we're going to get into your favorite film.
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  So are you. Is it your top five films?
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  Is it once you have a personal connection with or ones that you
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  go to the most? I don't know I Olivia, yeah,
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  Olivia who who said who arranged this?
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  Thank you, Olivia, because I love this.
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  And just text me and she was like, pick 5 movies that you
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  love. And that's such a stressful
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  thing to answer because if you asked me today, it would
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  probably be a different five. Yeah.
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  But at the time I was like, well, here's 5 movies that I
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  undeniably love and I just sent them.
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  But it could have been 10s of others, you know?
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  Yeah. And I didn't want to pick all
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  classic. Like these are definite the
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  best. Like if you check any top ten
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  list, they're going to be in there.
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  I want to try and mix it up with some newer stuff that I've seen
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  recently. And so I think I got a fairly
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  varied list. Yeah, I think it looks, it looks
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  eclectic to me. OK, so do you want to introduce
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  talk about your first film? Well, the one I had seen most
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  recently was Memories of a Murder.
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  I know it's not the newest movie, but it was that Bong Joon
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  Ho movie. Was it his first?
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  One of his early ones? Second.
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  Film. Second, yeah.
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  And I was late to the party with him and my first movie I saw was
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  Parasite and it blew me away. And after that went back, I
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  still haven't made it through all of his back catalog, but
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  just a few weeks ago, I saw Memories of a murder.
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  And I remember like after it was over, I was like, I think that
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  might be the best movie I've ever seen.
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  Wow. One of those moments.
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  And you don't normally get that. And I have, I've only seen it
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  once. I haven't rewatched it.
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  And but I was like, I need to put that in the list because
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  it's just, it blew me away. I remember that last scene just
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  kind of shook me to the core and it was so clever and just so
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  many great teams in there. Yeah.
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  And I just think he's a great filmmaker, you know, Everything
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  I've seen that he's done is kind of mind blowing so.
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  Yeah, I mean, it put me in mind. I don't know if you've seen it.
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  It put me in mind of Zodiac David Fincher.
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  Yeah, absolutely. Kind of like that police
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  procedural thing where there's an ambiguous ending and they're
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  like chasing down leads, dead ends and stuff like that.
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  But that came out before Zodiac, I believe, so I don't know if
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  that was an influence on Fincher.
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  I'm sure it was it seemed the more I've researched the movie
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  and Bong Joon Ho, he's kind of an influence on everyone.
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  And, and I, I see, you know, I like Tarantino and I, he
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  obviously he loves movies more than anyone.
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  And just when you listen to him talk about movies, memories of a
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  murder kind of comes up in his top 10 frequently.
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  And he just, it just seems to be a very sighted movie.
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  And Zodiac was one of my favorites too.
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  I think this, I think Memories of Murder is is superior and
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  there's something about I love David Fincher, but there's
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  something very precise that sometimes it's like a bit cold
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  and it's hard for me to totally. I totally appreciate everyone
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  he's done though and I'm a fan of his and I like all of his
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  movies, but I don't know. Memories of a Murder hit me
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  harder and there was something a bit more raw about it and the
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  kind of real life story was. Do you know the real story
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  about? The serial I read up, I read up
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  a little bit on it. The guy was caught a couple of
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  years ago. Yeah, after the movie came out,
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  Yeah. I mean, so it was the same as
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  Zodiac where it's an ambiguous end and no one knows who who the
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  killer is and it's very unresolved.
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  But in real life they caught the killer and several fabricated
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  things that were put in the movie came out to be true.
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  Really. Like he pretty.
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  Yeah. So it just was a eerily great
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  piece of storytelling, they thought.
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  And the fact that he kind of predicted some of the real life
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  events was very incredible. Yeah.
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  I really like the the crossover of the two leads, the guy who's
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  coming from Seoul, who's very much by the book and he's very
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  methodical. And you can't, you can't just
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  beat a confession out of out of a suspect.
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  And then he crosses over and the the case gets the better of him.
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  I mean, yeah, the both. And the other guy crosses over
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  to he's this childish, very instinctive, reactive, masculine
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  guy who can't deal with things properly.
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  And he, you know, he thinks if he looks someone in the eye, he
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  can tell if they're guilty or not.
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  And then by the end of it, he's the, he becomes far more logical
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  than he, he's looking at that one suspect at the end and he
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  can't figure out if he's guilty or not.
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  And he's man enough to admit it. And then the other guy, who all
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  up until this point has been the methodical review, the evidence,
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  calm guy is trying to shoot him and kill him even though he
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  knows he's been faced with the evidence that he's not guilty.
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  You know, yeah, I love the the two of the the dichotomy, the
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  two different masculinity, different forms of masculinity.
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  And all the while, there's this female detective in the
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  background who's like, given this great advice and is totally
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  well spoken, and everything she says turns out to be the right
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  course of action, and she's just kind of being laughed at and
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  overlooked the whole way through it.
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  Yeah, because it's set in the 70s.
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  So I guess that sorry, it's set in the 80s.
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  So I guess that I don't, I don't know, maybe the culture in
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  Korea, but I would imagine that if that was an American film or
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  an English film, then because it's a female character,
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  particularly in a position that she was in a police officer,
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  then she's marginalized. She's not taken seriously.
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  Yeah, absolutely. And she's the one who's coming
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  with all the logical explanation and all of the information.
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  Yeah, she's the one who had that.
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  You know, she just found out about the DJ who's playing the
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  song, and please only play it when it rains.
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  And oh, it's just, it's fantastic.
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  And and and yeah, it's it's clear that the police force in
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  Korea were quite corrupt back then.
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  And it is true that they were, you know, torturing suspects and
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  trying to be confessions out with people because they were
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  just I'll equipped to deal with the situation.
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  And yeah, that's very clear in the movie.
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  It's like a hopeless situation where they're just.
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  I love that scene where the, the childish one decides that the
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  the killer shaves his pubic area.
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  Yeah. And so he suggests that we need
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  to find people who have no pubes.
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  And he actually goes to bath houses, and that's how desperate
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  they were. He goes to bath houses to try
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  find people who are shaved. And yeah, yeah, we're just kind
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  of really, they're just throwing the kitchen sink at it and it's
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  very desperate. Yeah.
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  Sorry. Our dog is acting all right.
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  And they even suggest to go to the the monastery over the road
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  on the to pull out suspect. Yeah, it gets very desperate
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  that time. Great.
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  So have you got a favorite scene in that film?
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  Is there? Was there a one that stood out
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  for you? Yeah, like I said, I haven't
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  watched it again. But I mean, the scene for me,
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  like maybe my favorite scene ever and anything is the end
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  where he goes back to the that original scene from the first
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  scene where he discovers the first dead body.
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  And he's looking at the area and there's a little girl and she's
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  like, oh, it's funny. There was a guy here looking at
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  this area just last week. And he was like, really?
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  What did he look like? And the girls just says, he's
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  just a regular looking guy, just just like you.
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  And he looks around for a second.
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  He stares down the lens and it's like he's looking at you.
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  It's like, is it you? Are you the killer?
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  He's like, because everyone in Korean, he's a, it's a famous
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  case. They know he hasn't been found.
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  And I just was like, if you're in a theater looking at that and
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  you're beside like you're amongst 100 people.
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  It must have been a very bone chilling moment when this actor
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  staring and it's like a 5 second stare into the lens and you're
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  thinking it could be someone in here.
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  Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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  I just thought it was so clever and so powerful and I almost
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  started crying when it happened. It was.
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  It was really electrifying. Yeah.
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  Incredible. And it had me on on the edge of
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  my seat as well, because I didn't know that it was going to
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  be ambiguous. I was expecting maybe a
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  resolution and then, but I knew there was only maybe 5 minutes
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  of runtime left, so it kind of dawned on me that I wasn't going
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  to get what I wanted. I suppose that's natural, but to
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  leave it as it was was, yeah, like, like you said, one child.
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  So just then, Pat, then what about like your earliest
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  memories of watching movies? Like the earliest ones that you
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  can remember as a kid? Are there any of that spring to
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  mind? When my parents had a lot of
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  random movies on VHS that I would watch over and over, one
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  of them was like ATV movie The Death of the Incredible Hulk.
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  It was the was it Bill Bixby played him in that TV series.
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  I think that's his name. It was kind of very camp, over
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  the top, funny soundtrack. I would watch it over and over
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  and become obsessed with the Incredible Hulk because at that,
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  when you're at that age, you don't really have a critical
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  filter. I didn't anyway.
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  I just, I just like that this man turned green.
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  And so that's my earliest memory of watching movies.
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  And then like a little bit older, 7 or 8, I remember
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  watching Tom Hanks is that thing you do, you know the movie he
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  directed? And and I kind of made me fall
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  in love with music. It made me want to be in a band.
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  And I I just loved that movie from a really early age.
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  And that's when I rewatched all the time.
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  And then back to the future. Obviously it's, I think everyone
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  cites that as one of their early movie look, because it's just a
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  perfect movie. It is, it's really is flawless
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  and it's so entertaining and any age group can can enjoy it.
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  The older you get, you see more in it and it's those kind of
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  movies, those fun instant movies.
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  I really fell in love at an early age and then I went to
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  college and started watching The Sopranos and sought out more
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  kind of deep thinking movies and character based stories.
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  And, and since then, I've just kind of, I spend any free minute
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  I have either reading about movies that are coming out or
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  watching old movies that I haven't seen or yeah, you know,
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  trying to catch up. Yeah, I mean, it's difficult to
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  get. I mean, I've got a list and it's
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  getting longer and longer the more I do this and I'll never
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  get to the end of it. Which is great, you don't want
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  to ever get to the end when you can't think of something to
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  watch, so it's nice to have a list to work through.
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  So what about your second film then, Pat Watch which one of you
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  choosing the second film? And what else is on that list
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  is, oh, the lighthouse. Have you seen the lighthouse?
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  Yes, I have. Yes, I watched it.
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  Actually, I watched it today for the first time.
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  I know it was critically. Oh, no way.
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  Yeah, I know it was critically acclaimed and I just never got
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  around with it. Doesn't it's not the most
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  appealing of films to look at, like from the surface.
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  So that's possibly what put me off.
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  Yeah, when I when I looked at the list today, I was like,
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  that's kind of out of place on this list.
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  I don't know if it's deserves to be there but also it was the
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  best movie I saw that year and it was like one of the best
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  cinema experiences I had and I I wasn't expecting much going into
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  it and I just thought the performances were amazing.
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  It was such a original and creative idea for a movie.
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  I think Robert Eggers is like a genius and I can't wait to see
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  what he does next. I hadn't seen The Witch when I
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  watched Lighthouse and I went and watched it afterwards.
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  Love the witch. Still think Lighthouse is better
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  though. And you know the language in it
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  is so rich and like authentic feeling and it's almost
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  Shakespearean. Like the story, the way it
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  unfolds. I just was from I went to see it
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  with my friend. Actually, it's funny with the
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  Lighthouse because you could see it with 10 people and everyone
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  could think something different because I went with my best
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  friend the first time and both of us looked at each other
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  several times, like our Jaws job, how much we were loving it.
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  And like, these scenes are amazing.
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  And the scenes when they're getting drunk together, we were
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  like, yeah, that's like us. Yeah, great.
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  And then I watched it with my girlfriend yesterday because I
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  hadn't seen it since that first time.
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  And I was like, if I'm going to talk about this, I should watch
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  it again. And what?
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  And she hated it so and it kind of influenced my view.
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  And I was like, did I love it that much?
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  But I know I did. But but Lighthouse was one of
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  those for me because it, you know, it doesn't have a concrete
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  end. There's no this is exactly
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  what's happening. It's very much left here
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  interpretation and you can come away feeling different things
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  about what happened, which I love.
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  I don't need to be told exactly what was happening.
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  And, and actually, because it wasn't that me and my friend for
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  the rest of the day and night talked about what we thought
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  about the movie, which for me is way more interesting than a
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  neatly tied bowl at the end of, you know.
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  So I just thought it was really original and one of the coolest
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  things I've seen in recent times.
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  It was the even the way it looks is just a beautiful, like each
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  frame is like a work of art. And Willem Dafoe and Robert
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  Pattinson are just at the top of their games and, and, and he's
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  an exciting new filmmaker. So I thought I'll put that in
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  and put something new in there. Yeah.
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  I mean, yeah, I think I agree with you.
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  It's it's one of those films where if you go to see it at the
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  theater, you'll expect a few people to walk out, right?
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  It's not for everyone. I will say, though, it's better
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  in the theater because the soundtrack is so menacing and
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  and disturbing, which my girlfriend keeps turning it
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  down. You know, on some TV sets when
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  people are talking, it's much quieter.
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  And then when there's like action scenes or whatever, it
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  gets much louder. Yeah.
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  And she's someone who likes to turn it down during those parts
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  and turn it back up when when there's when there's some
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  dialogue, which really pisses me off because for me, the sound is
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  there for a reason and I don't get bothered by loud noises.
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  But in the cinema, I was just subjected to all of that.
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  And it really, my senses were assaulted and I loved it.
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  And so I think seeing it in the cinema was better than watching
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  it at home. And it's that it's that weird
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  framing where it's like just a sliver in the middle of the
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  screen, which kind of creates this claustrophobia, which I
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  liked and thought it was cool, but it's harder on a TV because
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  you lose so much of the screen. And but it was great in the in
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  the cinema. Yeah, that aspect ratio really
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  struck out for me as well. That kind of keeping you tight
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  in to the frame. This, you've got to look at this
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  and also as claustrophobic film anyway, so you just get that
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  sense from that, that choice. He's great at making you feel
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  like you're going insane with these people.
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  Like, and Willem Dafoe is like, how long have we been there?
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  Has it been five weeks? Has it been two days?
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  And and you're like, Oh my God, that's the scariest thought ever
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  I've had. I've had moments like that in my
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  life where I'm like, I'm not sure how long I've been here.
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  And it's really scary. So I just, yeah, it was a great
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  depiction of just two men on an island by themselves going and
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  saying nowhere to go. And you really got, you got that
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  feeling yourself as a viewer. So yeah.
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  I mean, it looks and sounds fantastic and those
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  performances, Robin Pattinson, I mean, willing to for you and
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  always guaranteeable. Robin Patterson's putting in a
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  lot of really great performances recently.
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  Oh my God. I don't know if he's ever done a
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  bad performance. Like, obviously I don't like
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  Twilight. I just don't.
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  But. But that's not his fault, and he
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  just hasn't been bad. I can't wait to see what he does
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  with Batman. Yeah, yeah.
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  About that. Yeah, I, I watched some
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  interviews with Willem Dafoe about the movie, and he loves
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  the movie and all that, but he's from a very traditional theater
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  background and Pattinson isn't. And it was interesting that the
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  two of them have very different approaches to to the scenes
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  because Willem Willem Dafoe would want to rehearse it and
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  rehearse it and get it perfect. And Pattinson was like, well, if
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  we keep rehearsing it, we'll lose some of that, like visceral
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  reaction, like it's only going to happen once.
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  And then recreating it is kind of you lose some of the
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  authenticity or something like that.
• 19:39
  And it was interesting that it sounded like it got pretty
• 19:41
  heated between the two of them, which I think just helped the
• 19:44
  movie because they're supposed to be so different.
• 19:47
  And you can see how much they're conflicting.
• 19:50
  And there's genuine rage in Pattinson's eyes at several
• 19:53
  times when he's, like, getting getting angry with the fall.
• 19:56
  And it's just cool to hear those back stories.
• 20:00
  And they were really on that island.
• 20:02
  And it was like horrible conditions.
• 20:04
  Yeah, I think it was shot in Canada.
• 20:05
  I think was shot in Nova Scotia. That makes sense.
• 20:09
  Those accents of they are from like just off the coast of
• 20:13
  Canada, right? Like because they sound so
• 20:14
  Irish. I was like, at first I was like,
• 20:16
  these are really bad Irish accents.
• 20:18
  And then I was thinking, yeah, it's those kind of, that's where
• 20:21
  the pirate thing comes from, isn't it?
• 20:23
  Just off that east or West Coast, East Coast of Canada and.
• 20:27
  So I think it's set in New England and my and I had a
• 20:30
  problem with, not a problem with the accents, but I was
• 20:32
  questioning where they were coming from and I did notice
• 20:35
  that I noticed that they did. Sound like Irish accents.
• 20:39
  Then I thought bad Irish accents.
• 20:41
  But then I thought, well, maybe. You know, immigrants, it was set
• 20:45
  in late 1800s, so that would have still been happening.
• 20:48
  So maybe second, third generation of immigrants from
• 20:51
  Ireland over to America. Right.
• 20:53
  I think and I think that is a genuine accent that existed.
• 20:56
  Like I think and especially willing to fall, his character
• 20:59
  seemed like he was kind of nailing it and never never waved
• 21:04
  from this one accent. He decided.
• 21:05
  Whereas Pattinson kind of had that Irish thing at the start
• 21:08
  and then it became Boston. And then at times he just sounds
• 21:12
  very straight like middle America.
• 21:14
  And I don't know if that was on purpose because he's kind of
• 21:17
  he's trying to be this different person at the start.
• 21:19
  He says his name is Winslow and it turns out Winslow some guy
• 21:23
  who died and he took his identity and maybe that's why
• 21:26
  he's accent to slip in. The first time I watched it, I
• 21:28
  was like in Pattinson is just not getting the accent as good
• 21:31
  as well before. But after watching it yesterday
• 21:33
  I was like, it's felt more purposeful that the action
• 21:35
  changed so. And I would be surprised.
• 21:38
  Just more stuff to talk about, really, yeah.
• 21:41
  Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:42
  And I would be surprised if, considering the the exact in
• 21:46
  nature of this film and the witch as well, that I'd be
• 21:50
  surprised if it allows something as sloppy to be to be thrown
• 21:53
  into the film. Exactly.
• 21:54
  That's another thing when the Foe said about, well, about
• 21:57
  Eggers is like, it was so precise.
• 22:00
  This everything you heard was written on the script.
• 22:02
  There was no improvisation. Yeah, it was all, you know, he
• 22:06
  really knew exactly how it was going to look and how it was
• 22:09
  going to play out and what they were going to say and where the
• 22:11
  cameras were going to be. He's very precise, which it
• 22:13
  didn't feel like to me. Whereas with Fincher you can see
• 22:18
  it's it's a maths equation almost where everything is on
• 22:20
  the screen. And famously he'll make them do
• 22:23
  every scene 100 times and they lose actors.
• 22:27
  A lot of actors don't like working with that because they
• 22:29
  lose their whatever it is, the authenticity of delivering the
• 22:33
  lions. Whereas I didn't feel that way
• 22:35
  watching this. It almost felt like these two
• 22:37
  were improvised and like just. It was very free flowing I
• 22:41
  found. Yeah, I mean the language and
• 22:43
  there's some monologues in there by both of them that that are
• 22:46
  really impressive. Oh my God, so good and so funny.
• 22:50
  Like I I laughed so hard at several times.
• 22:54
  Even though it's like a dark, I don't think it's a scary movie.
• 22:57
  It's just a disturbing kind of dark movie, but it has these
• 23:00
  hilarious moments. And that one monologue when
• 23:04
  Willem Dafoe is, I think Robin Pattinson said he doesn't like
• 23:08
  he's cooking or something. Yeah.
• 23:10
  And there's like a 10 minute monologue where he's just
• 23:13
  completely sick, damning him and saying what he'd like to do to
• 23:16
  him. And it's so Shakespearean and an
• 23:19
  awful. And then he says, OK, I like
• 23:21
  your cooking. It was so epic.
• 23:26
  But yeah, the monologues I loved.
• 23:28
  Yeah, incredible. I mean, he's desperate for him
• 23:30
  to tell him that he he likes his lobster, isn't he?
• 23:36
  Yeah, and, and, and the movie is not above the occasional fart
• 23:40
  joke. You know, even though it's like
• 23:41
  an A-24 very critically acclaimed art house movie,
• 23:45
  there's moments where he just farts and it's funny.
• 23:48
  Yeah, it is funny. So do you have have you picked
• 23:53
  out a favorite scene for this one?
• 23:56
  Oh, that's tough. God, I suppose that monologue,
• 24:01
  that Willem the fall monologue. If I had more time to think, it
• 24:04
  might be different if I could watch it again.
• 24:06
  But but that that scene where he goes on a tirade abusing William
• 24:10
  Pattinson. It's just I love the writing and
• 24:13
  I love how he delivers it. And there's also a scene where
• 24:16
  he it's another monologue scene and it's when Pattinson starts
• 24:20
  questioning, he's getting super paranoid and he's questioned
• 24:25
  everything with him before, has told him and when before like
• 24:30
  just comes back at him with this another like long damning
• 24:33
  monologue. And he's always don't blink.
• 24:35
  And it's like a 2 minute scene. And I'm like after about 20
• 24:38
  seconds I realized he hadn't blinked.
• 24:40
  So at that stage I'm just staring at he's always waiting
• 24:42
  for them to blink and they don't.
• 24:43
  And it's just his performance is so amazing.
• 24:46
  So maybe that is sticking out in my memory, but really there
• 24:50
  isn't 1 scene I can pick that I just like.
• 24:53
  I just like it all. Yeah, I mean, pretty much
• 24:55
  everything on there is hypnotic and it just holds you.
• 24:58
  It is immediately. Yeah, absolutely.
• 25:04
  Look at you, handsome lad with eyes bright as a lady come to
• 25:10
  this rock playing the tough. You make me laugh with your
• 25:15
  false grum. You pretended to some mystery in
• 25:20
  your quiet dudes, but there ain't no mystery.
• 25:26
  You're an open book. A picture says IA painted
• 25:32
  actress screaming in the Footlights.
• 25:34
  A bitch What wants to be coveted for nothing but being born?
• 25:38
  Crying but the silver spoon, what should have been yours?
• 25:43
  Now look at here, crying. Boo Boo.
• 25:51
  What you're gonna do? Will you kill me?
• 25:56
  Will you? Will you kill me?
• 25:58
  Like you've done that goal I did.
• 26:00
  Liar. So you mentioned about watching
• 26:05
  that thing we do that thing we do.
• 26:06
  Is that what it's? Called that thing.
• 26:07
  You do that thing. You do the Tom Hanks film and
• 26:09
  that got you into music, So what kind of music influenced your
• 26:14
  style? Well, I'm from Ireland, so like
• 26:16
  I have a big Irish influence of Irish traditional music.
• 26:20
  I love all the old folk singers like Luke Kelly, I love Paul
• 26:23
  Brady and, and there's contemporary writers in Ireland
• 26:27
  now like Mick Flannery and Declan O'Rourke and they always
• 26:30
  continue to inspire me. And that's what I listened to
• 26:32
  growing up Glen Hansford in the Frames.
• 26:35
  And then when I got older, I, I really loved Americana music
• 26:39
  and, and, and you know, classic American songwriters like Bob
• 26:44
  Dylan and Paul Simon and Springsteen and Neil Young and
• 26:48
  Tom Petty and Van Morrison and all those guys.
• 26:50
  Incredible. That's when I started, you know,
• 26:53
  singing and, and wanting to be a songwriter.
• 26:56
  And that was maybe in my mid teens actually, before that I
• 26:58
  was a drummer and I I played exclusively in like metal bands
• 27:03
  and punk bands and that really, I think like most people, I'm 32
• 27:07
  and and a lot of people my age, when you're when you're 12 or
• 27:09
  13, you discover metal and you're, you're early teens at
• 27:12
  least are spent wearing all black and going to live music
• 27:16
  club. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:17
  And I love System of a Down and Nirvana and Metallica and, you
• 27:22
  know, I still love a lot of that music.
• 27:23
  It's not really what I listen to, but when I started singing
• 27:25
  is when I started listening more to songwriters and, and my world
• 27:31
  opened up a bit more. And and then since moving to
• 27:33
  Texas, there's great Texas music I love.
• 27:36
  There's writers like Guy Clark and Townes Van Zandt and Oh
• 27:39
  yeah, just great storytellers and people who are great with
• 27:44
  words and building characters. And it's suppose that spawns
• 27:49
  from my love of movies. I love character driven movies.
• 27:52
  Yeah. And when a songwriter is able to
• 27:55
  build a character or a scene in that way, that's what I really
• 27:58
  love. So.
• 28:00
  I think you can, from what you've said there, you can
• 28:02
  definitely hear that in your music.
• 28:04
  It is. And it's not something that I've
• 28:06
  heard at all. It it maybe once or twice, but
• 28:10
  the IT seems to be a mixture of that Americana influenced by
• 28:15
  your location and also your your roots from Ireland as well.
• 28:20
  So. There's a perfect blend of that.
• 28:22
  I've noticed that instantly. Well, thank you.
• 28:26
  Yeah, that's that's kind of, I'd love if that's how people have
• 28:29
  thought about my music because that's how I feel.
• 28:31
  And because I grew up playing traditional music and I and my
• 28:34
  accent comes through, I think when I sing and I sound Irish
• 28:37
  and and there's definitely an Irish element.
• 28:39
  But really the songs are Americana full kind of songs.
• 28:44
  So I would love if that's what it was, if it was a marriage of
• 28:48
  the two. Yes, it certainly comes up.
• 28:50
  Comes across like that for me. Great stuff as well.
• 28:53
  Great stuff. Your new albums excellent, loved
• 28:56
  it. Thanks a lot, Luke.
• 28:57
  Cheers. OK, so let's move on to the
• 29:01
  angry dog in the background. Yeah, Samantha's just she's
• 29:05
  gearing them up to go for a walk.
• 29:06
  It's been a long process, but I think we're finally getting them
• 29:09
  out the door. OK, So what about film #3?
• 29:15
  Which one are you going for? For film #3.
• 29:20
  Could you help me with the list? What else is on the list?
• 29:22
  Raging Bull. Raging Bull.
• 29:24
  Yeah, I watched that last night as well.
• 29:26
  And again, and talking about character driven things, like
• 29:30
  that's really the one. I mean, it's first of all Robert
• 29:34
  De Niro. His performance is like probably
• 29:38
  his best. I don't know if it's hard to say
• 29:40
  that about Robert De Niro because he's done so many.
• 29:43
  It's a real, I forgot how hard a movie it is to watch.
• 29:46
  Like I I've still haven't we watched it again last night and
• 29:49
  I think it might only be my second time ever watching it
• 29:52
  because it's not exactly a re watchable.
• 29:54
  It's not like Goodfellas. It's not like some of Scorsese's
• 29:57
  other stuff. It's just this great character
• 29:59
  study where this man completely destroys himself and it's so sad
• 30:04
  and it's there's nothing redeemable about him.
• 30:06
  You don't like him. And it just left me with this
• 30:09
  awful feeling all night. And even this morning I woke up,
• 30:12
  I was like, God, I shouldn't have watched Raging Bull right
• 30:14
  before I went to bed. But but it's just undeniably
• 30:17
  amazing. And it's like, you know, it's so
• 30:21
  much toxic masculinity and and, and misogyny.
• 30:25
  It's really not a boxing movie. It's just about this man who
• 30:28
  destroys himself because he can't handle his feelings.
• 30:31
  And yeah, and it's a great scene that sums up a lot of it for me.
• 30:35
  Where he's convinced Joe Pesci, who's also amazing in it is has
• 30:40
  had sex with his wife and he walks down the street to beat
• 30:44
  him up and gets into the house and he's just arriving and you
• 30:47
  see Joe Pesci like giving his son a really stern talking
• 30:51
  because he's not eating He's like eat that fucking dinner.
• 30:54
  I'll drop this fork in your eye or something like, well, this
• 30:57
  explains it all. Like because they're brothers
• 30:59
  and they obviously were treated that way and now he's treating
• 31:01
  his kids that way and it's a cycle of masculinity that's and
• 31:05
  it's going to keep going. And then he beats the shit out
• 31:08
  of them and they don't talk and it's just such a stupid, it's
• 31:12
  just really animalistic, stupid masculine behavior.
• 31:16
  But it's this it's perfectly depicted on the screen.
• 31:19
  And and even that last scene where he still can't own up to
• 31:23
  it, that it was like he quotes the what's it on the waterfront
• 31:27
  scene where. Yeah.
• 31:28
  He's like, it wasn't your fault. It was Charlie.
• 31:30
  You know, he's he's blaming it on Joe Pacey's character.
• 31:33
  Like, that's the reason he's in this mess.
• 31:35
  And he's. Yeah.
• 31:37
  It's. I don't know how Jake Lamar felt
• 31:40
  about watching the movie. Like it.
• 31:42
  I don't know how anyone could be happy.
• 31:45
  Yeah. It's based on his book.
• 31:46
  He helped with the, he trained De Niro.
• 31:49
  Yeah. And he was very involved in it.
• 31:51
  And it seems like he was happy with the movie.
• 31:53
  But I mean, it's so damning, there's nothing you're.
• 31:57
  Not coming out of that with any redeemable qualities.
• 32:00
  No. And I don't know if that would
• 32:02
  happen today. Like, you know, like the Queen
• 32:04
  movie that came out. I know they wanted to.
• 32:07
  I know Sasha Baron Cohen was really wanted to make that
• 32:11
  movie. Yeah.
• 32:12
  And warts and all and show like the gritty side and and I
• 32:16
  understand an artist not wanting that kind of movie to be made
• 32:18
  about them, but they went with the more like let's just make a
• 32:22
  glorified movie, which I didn't like that much, I'll be honest.
• 32:25
  No, I wanted to. That's why I wanted to see the
• 32:28
  the outrage and the excess and I wanted to see the water kind of
• 32:32
  grime of it, which has been widely reported.
• 32:34
  So making a film, which I'm a big Queen fan and I have been
• 32:38
  for since I was a kid. So, so not telling the story,
• 32:44
  changing the timeline, changing the way things happened, I don't
• 32:48
  know. I felt a bit of a cop out.
• 32:50
  Yeah, I thought so, too. But also, if I was Brian May and
• 32:54
  someone's making a movie about me and my friend who, you know,
• 32:58
  I wouldn't, I would probably want some kind of censorship on
• 33:01
  it as well. But as a fan and as an art
• 33:04
  lover, it wasn't the right thing.
• 33:05
  And I think Sasha Baron Cohen would have done an amazing job,
• 33:09
  and he just is. He would have been such a great
• 33:11
  Freddie Mercury. I know.
• 33:13
  What's his name? Got the Oscar.
• 33:16
  Rami Malek. Rami Malek, yeah, I don't know.
• 33:18
  I thought he was good as he was definitely good as he.
• 33:21
  Oh, he was, and he came across the physicality of it.
• 33:24
  Yeah. That Live Aid performance, I
• 33:26
  mean, it's just, it's ready. That was great and it was really
• 33:30
  well made and all, but just the movie as a whole that I just
• 33:33
  didn't do it for me. Whereas Raging Bull is like,
• 33:37
  there's not here. They are not glamming that open
• 33:39
  anyway. No hide.
• 33:40
  They don't even really talk about his boxing training at
• 33:43
  all, which is so cool. And the the, the, the boxing
• 33:48
  scenes kind of serve as just a way for him to let out the rage
• 33:51
  that's building up in his personal life.
• 33:54
  Yeah. They're like just these boiling
• 33:56
  point moments in the movie. So yeah, I much prefer that kind
• 34:01
  of movie. Yeah, than the Bohemian
• 34:03
  Rhapsodies of the World. Yeah, I agree with you as well.
• 34:06
  It's a film that I've maybe only seen twice before really
• 34:10
  watching it, because it isn't, it isn't an easy, easy watch.
• 34:15
  Yeah, there are a lot of tough situations, tough language.
• 34:20
  Vicky is 15 and that's that's hard to bear.
• 34:25
  And also, yeah, Jake is, I mean, he's a despicable character, but
• 34:29
  I think it's it's a measure of De Niro's performance that do
• 34:34
  still feel sorry for him right at the end when he's he's left,
• 34:37
  he's crumbled. He's got nothing.
• 34:39
  It's like I'm overweight. Another thing to talk about.
• 34:43
  Yeah, well, you, you pity him like it's so sad at the end.
• 34:47
  It's the most tragic thing when when you see him do any stand up
• 34:50
  routine, which is like this. Very middle of the road humor
• 34:53
  that that's kind of delivered with no class and and he's
• 34:57
  drinking and he's overweight. And then you see there's like 4
• 34:59
  people at the bar and two of them are heckling them and it's
• 35:01
  like wow what a fall from a completely self-inflicted fall
• 35:06
  from great. Like there's no one else to
• 35:07
  blame in the whole movie. Thanks.
• 35:11
  Thanks for laughing. Spread it around.
• 35:12
  Now the first night I was here, I said to the owner of the
• 35:17
  journey, I said listen, where's the Tarlin?
• 35:20
  He said you're in. Come on, let's go, let's go.
• 35:25
  Hey, why don't you leave me alone?
• 35:26
  I'm trying to do my routine up. Yours.
• 35:28
  And pal, you're going to force me to make a comeback?
• 35:32
  Ronnie. Fuck you and a horse you rode in
• 35:36
  on and the whole cavalry behind you.
• 35:40
  Funny. Man.
• 35:44
  That's why I'm here. Give another drink, piss in it
• 35:50
  for me. It's just so sad.
• 35:53
  And then the near the the fact that it's probably, it could be
• 35:55
  the first time an actor has been so committed to a role to gain
• 35:59
  the weight. I know Paul Schrader, the
• 36:01
  writer, that was like the one big argument about the movie
• 36:05
  where he was like, no, you can't gain the weight.
• 36:07
  Well, it's too unhealthy. We'll make prosthetics and and
• 36:10
  De Niro insisted, no, give me give me 3 months.
• 36:12
  I'm going to gain the weight and it's going to work.
• 36:14
  And it totally does because you see when when you realize it's
• 36:18
  actually real, because there's so many scenes where his shirt
• 36:21
  wide open and the belly's hanging out and you're like,
• 36:23
  that's not prosthetic. And you can hear it in the way
• 36:26
  he talks. His breathing is not as good.
• 36:28
  It's affecting his whole life. And without De Niro doing that,
• 36:33
  it just wouldn't have been as as believable.
• 36:35
  It's like what Christian Bale does for every movie now, but De
• 36:38
  Niro was the first to do it. Yeah, I think he held that
• 36:41
  record for, well, he held it until I think Vincent D'onofrio
• 36:45
  put on loads of wear to be private pile in full metal
• 36:48
  jacket. Oh wow, really?
• 36:51
  Yeah, because he was a thin guy. And then you.
• 36:53
  Put your no way. Yeah.
• 36:55
  I didn't know that. I just assumed that was a big
• 36:57
  guy. Yeah, I.
• 36:59
  Did like throughout the 80s he did that even more.
• 37:03
  What amazes me slims down and then he's he's still got a
• 37:05
  little bit of puppy fat for King of Comedy and I think that's 82
• 37:09
  and then he puts on wait for Al Capone in 87 and then in
• 37:12
  Midnight Run he's this skinny guy a year later.
• 37:14
  It's a remarkable. Right and taxi driver, he's this
• 37:18
  clown he. Can.
• 37:18
  Yeah. Yeah, in amazing shape.
• 37:21
  Yeah, A King of Comedy was one I almost put on the list as well.
• 37:26
  That and Raising Bull I love so much.
• 37:28
  Because they're not the typical Scorsese movies.
• 37:31
  Like there's there's no massive set pieces or they're not
• 37:37
  typical gangster movie. You know, I know Scorsese kind
• 37:39
  of does everything but but I just love the how kind of
• 37:43
  understated those two are and how interesting the character
• 37:46
  characters are. King of cup And did you like the
• 37:48
  Joker? The the Joker The very much I
• 37:53
  absolutely loved it. And that's I don't understand
• 37:56
  why it's such a mixed like the reviews seem so I know it's
• 38:00
  probably the political like the thing of, yeah, glorifying
• 38:03
  violence or whatever, but whatever.
• 38:05
  I mean, that's. Yeah, I, I think Phoenix's
• 38:08
  performance is incredible. I love the tone, the script,
• 38:11
  amazing. I love the character and the
• 38:13
  building of that character. I mean, it's not, it's not the
• 38:16
  most sunny of films to watch, but I was blown away by it.
• 38:20
  Me too and and for me it's a re re watchable one.
• 38:23
  It's also fun. I think it's fun to watch.
• 38:26
  Like it's it's terrible what's happening.
• 38:28
  But I mean, it's so well executed and the performances
• 38:31
  are great. And that moment when he kills De
• 38:34
  Niro was character. It's just it's shocking and it's
• 38:38
  like the tension there is unbelievable.
• 38:40
  But like that's that's totally from Taxi Driver and King of
• 38:43
  Comedy and and De Niro's performances.
• 38:46
  And yeah, I just I love King of Comedy.
• 38:50
  I remember renting it on DVD because I hadn't heard of it.
• 38:52
  It wasn't like a well known Scorsese hit or anything, and I
• 38:57
  got it on DVD way back in the day just because I thought it
• 39:00
  looked like a fun comedy and rob heroes in it and it wasn't what
• 39:04
  I was expecting. But yeah, that could have been
• 39:07
  on this list too. I really love that.
• 39:08
  Movie, it's huge. There's the I think Scorsese's
• 39:11
  film after that was After Hours, and that's probably even more
• 39:14
  low key than I didn't see After Comedy.
• 39:17
  Oh, it's fantastic. Well.
• 39:19
  It's great, well worth checking out.
• 39:21
  There's actually a lot of Scorsese movies I haven't seen.
• 39:24
  I realize I've seen a lot too, but there's so much.
• 39:27
  There's so many, yeah. OK, so talked about your your
• 39:32
  music and obviously everything's going great, it's working out.
• 39:36
  But did you have anything in mind or anything back up as a
• 39:40
  secondary career if it didn't work out?
• 39:43
  Not really. I kind of think not having a
• 39:47
  backup is what made it, made me stay doing it.
• 39:50
  You know, I had a star for it for a long time.
• 39:53
  And you know, it's not like I'm making lots of money now, but
• 39:57
  I'm able to pay rent and survive and play shows all the time and
• 40:01
  people are listening. So that's was always my goal.
• 40:04
  But you know, an early age, you don't believe it's possible
• 40:07
  because I had no, I'm from a tiny village and there was no
• 40:09
  one really to look to that was making a living off art or
• 40:14
  creative endeavors. So it always felt like play
• 40:16
  time. But when I was like 15 or 16, I
• 40:20
  started playing in local pubs and making a living that way,
• 40:23
  like making more money than my friends.
• 40:25
  Because if you're getting £100 to play in the pub, that's more
• 40:28
  than your friend is getting for working at the local shop, you
• 40:31
  know. So at the time I was like, maybe
• 40:34
  I can make a living. And my parents, you know, we're
• 40:36
  very supportive of it. They love that I play music and
• 40:38
  they've never tried to steer me in any other direction.
• 40:41
  So I was lucky in that sense that I didn't have this pressure
• 40:44
  to find a career, but I went to university.
• 40:47
  I thought I was going to maybe become a teacher, but it really
• 40:51
  was just because society tells you you need to figure something
• 40:55
  out. And then things started
• 40:58
  happening for me and I was able to make a living playing music.
• 41:00
  So I dropped out of college and and have never looked back.
• 41:04
  I never really had a nine to five so.
• 41:06
  Fantastic. Yeah.
• 41:07
  Well, I mean, it's so. I mean, that's the amazing
• 41:09
  success story. Follow your dreams and and you
• 41:12
  and it worked out for you as well.
• 41:14
  And the last thing you want to do is stifle that by saying,
• 41:16
  well, if it doesn't work, I'll give it six months and then.
• 41:19
  That's how I feel, yeah. Because honestly, if I had done
• 41:22
  that, I would have went, I would have just went with the safety
• 41:24
  net because I wasn't that good at all.
• 41:27
  And I still feel like I'm getting better, but, but you
• 41:31
  know, I've been doing it for 15 years professionally now.
• 41:34
  And so of course I'm getting a bit better.
• 41:36
  But if after five years, I also had this job where I could make
• 41:39
  $500 a week or something, not even that much, I would have
• 41:43
  just done it for the for the comfort of having some money
• 41:47
  and, and I wouldn't have got better.
• 41:49
  I just got better because I had to and because I it's all I did.
• 41:52
  So yeah, for me not having that safety net is the reason I'm
• 41:55
  still doing it. And I think fantastic if you
• 41:57
  really believe that's what you want to do and that you can do
• 42:00
  it. I think having a safety and
• 42:01
  that's just going to stifle you so.
• 42:03
  Yeah, yeah, OK, So what about film #4 Pass?
• 42:08
  Which one are we going for? That one is back to the futures
• 42:13
  in there isn't. It Yeah.
• 42:15
  Why have you chosen this one? Well, because it was getting
• 42:18
  very heavy, the list in there, something in there that's not so
• 42:24
  dark and unwatchable. And I don't know if there is a
• 42:27
  more watchable movie than Back to the Future.
• 42:30
  And honestly, aside from it not being dark, it's perfect.
• 42:34
  Like it's probably the best movie of the list because it's
• 42:36
  just there's no waste of time that the amount of enjoyable
• 42:42
  concepts that every kid and every person would love to
• 42:46
  explore. Like going back in time and
• 42:48
  seeing your parents in school. Like yes, you actually as if
• 42:52
  Back to the future didn't exist. It's something you discuss with
• 42:54
  your friend. Like it's just great to see it
• 42:56
  executed so well on screen. Like something you wish you
• 42:59
  could do. The DeLorean looks cool.
• 43:01
  All the characters are iconic. Like Doc, is it Doc Brown?
• 43:05
  His name is Doc. Brown.
• 43:06
  Yeah. Who actually saw?
• 43:09
  Drinking a coffee a few months ago.
• 43:11
  Really. I was staying at my.
• 43:13
  My girlfriend's brother has an apartment in Soho.
• 43:16
  Really nice place. And it's above this coffee shop
• 43:20
  that that Christopher Lloyd drinks coffee in like every
• 43:25
  three or four days. Like, he's there all the time
• 43:28
  and you're just going to see him when you walk out.
• 43:30
  Wow. Street.
• 43:30
  So I saw him there, which was cool.
• 43:33
  Yeah. Beside the point, though.
• 43:35
  So, yeah, just all the characters are great.
• 43:37
  Marty McFly, the coolest. You just want to be him when
• 43:41
  you're a kid. There's just everything is in
• 43:43
  there. It's hilarious.
• 43:45
  It's scared, really scary, really tense and just time
• 43:49
  travel. I mean, it's yeah, it's
• 43:52
  fantastic. And I love Robert Zemeckis as
• 43:54
  well. Like everything.
• 43:55
  Most of what he's done. I love.
• 43:56
  I love Castaway. I love I loved Fly.
• 44:00
  I'm a big Zemeckis fan but. Yeah, really.
• 44:03
  Masterpiece. Oh, it's fun.
• 44:04
  I mean, some of the concepts, some of the ideas.
• 44:07
  I just, I, I'm, I'm constantly surprised.
• 44:10
  It's just, it's a. Soundtrack.
• 44:12
  Film the soundtracks amazed and that power of love right at the
• 44:15
  start, yeah. So great, but like even the
• 44:19
  little moments where I can't remember the exact music, but
• 44:23
  there there are movies and is it John Williams?
• 44:26
  It's not John Williams. Is it it's?
• 44:27
  Alan Silvestri. Alan Silvestri.
• 44:29
  OK, But it has that John Williams thing where, yeah,
• 44:33
  they're just very memorable moments throughout.
• 44:35
  And yeah, the soundtrack does half the work even.
• 44:39
  It's just, it's perfect. It really is and so digestible
• 44:44
  and easy to rewatch. Oh and yeah, just the rewatch
• 44:47
  ability of it is just fantastic. Yeah.
• 44:50
  That scene right at the end, the Johnny B Goode scene, just
• 44:55
  always gets me. He just absolutely love it.
• 44:58
  And I think is that him playing it?
• 45:00
  I think he is a guitar player, isn't he?
• 45:03
  Yeah, I think he, yeah, I think he, it's not his voice, even
• 45:07
  though it sounds like him, but he did learn.
• 45:10
  He learned the the chords. Yeah.
• 45:11
  He's a convincing guitar player. You know, he just looks like a
• 45:14
  cool front man. It's just so funny as well.
• 45:18
  Yeah. All that scene where the band
• 45:20
  leaders, like on the phone to. Who's is he on the phone to?
• 45:25
  Chuck Berry. Chuck Berry, Yeah.
• 45:26
  Yeah, yeah. I think I found that sound
• 45:28
  you're looking for. Yeah.
• 45:31
  Yeah. Doesn't he try and play?
• 45:33
  He tries to play Van Halen first or something.
• 45:35
  Yeah, he's tapping like Van Halen.
• 45:38
  Oh, no, He ends with Van Halen. And that's what he was, Yeah.
• 45:41
  He does a bit of Pete Townsend some windmills.
• 45:44
  Right. Yeah.
• 45:45
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 45:47
  It's just fun. You know, it's kind of, it'll
• 45:49
  always be up there as one of my favorite movies ever and from an
• 45:52
  air. Like it's one of those few that
• 45:54
  you see when you're 10 and you absolutely love it, and then you
• 45:57
  rewatch when you're 30 and you still love it.
• 45:59
  Like, yeah. Whereas a lot of times you'll go
• 46:01
  back and watch your stuff you loved at that age and it's
• 46:03
  doesn't really stand up. Whereas this just will always
• 46:08
  like, if I can't wait to have kids to show them this movie,
• 46:11
  going to love it more than that. And that's out at the time.
• 46:13
  Like it's just, it's timeless. It's fantastic.
• 46:16
  No pun intended. The characters, I mean, just
• 46:20
  incredible. And obviously Marty and Doc, but
• 46:24
  Biff as a bad guy is just TomTom Wilson.
• 46:28
  He's he's incredible. And Chris Mcglover as George
• 46:32
  McFly is just amazing out of control.
• 46:35
  It's sad what happened to him. Do you know the controversy with
• 46:38
  the with the second movie and. Yeah, didn't he?
• 46:41
  He didn't. He didn't.
• 46:43
  There was something contractual. He didn't get paid what he
• 46:45
  wanted to something like that. It was something like that.
• 46:48
  And so he pulled out of filming and then they got a different
• 46:51
  actor and put like prosthetics on him to make it look like it
• 46:54
  was him, which kind of is bad form.
• 46:58
  Yeah. And then so he sued them and
• 47:00
  actually, I think changed the law where you can't do anything
• 47:04
  like that anymore, like using there's likeness.
• 47:06
  And but yeah, so he he has a real bitter taste about the
• 47:09
  whole franchise, I think. And that's sad, but but he was
• 47:12
  amazing in it. Like such a perfect not nerd.
• 47:16
  Incredible. Something about the the sequel.
• 47:19
  I always like you said, you're always the it's something that
• 47:22
  you always think about. It's something like a kid you,
• 47:25
  it's just you look and wonder at.
• 47:26
  It's something about the sequel that that Almanac, the greatest
• 47:30
  sports Almanac. Yeah, I think I think about that
• 47:32
  every week if I'm watching, if I'm watching sport and I think I
• 47:36
  wish I had a greatest sports Almanac.
• 47:39
  Me too, yeah. And when you're young, yeah,
• 47:42
  there's something about all the props and everything that's
• 47:45
  mentioned. That sports Almanac just feels
• 47:47
  so Hollywood in my memory and like, beautiful.
• 47:50
  And as a kid, you lost after it you just because it's such a
• 47:54
  obviously that's what you'd want if you travel time.
• 47:57
  Like that's how you make your money and just very clever
• 48:00
  things. I actually can't talk much about
• 48:02
  the sequels because I know I watched them when I was a kid.
• 48:05
  I haven't rewatched them as much.
• 48:07
  I don't know if did they suffer like did they go down in quality
• 48:10
  or was it? Yeah, I mean, it was, I think
• 48:14
  they're still got, they're still got well received.
• 48:17
  I mean, it's going to be tricky to follow Back to the Future
• 48:20
  because it's so perfect. But I think the third one got
• 48:23
  better, better received than the second which, and that's the one
• 48:27
  that's in the Wild West. Yeah, the second one, actually,
• 48:31
  of all the movies, has a lot of the imagery that stuck with me
• 48:34
  the most, the way they depicted the future and the hoverboards
• 48:39
  and just the clothes he wore, which I think probably
• 48:42
  influenced a lot of fashion. Oh yeah.
• 48:45
  And that stuck with me a lot. The third one I actually saw
• 48:49
  more recently, and I remember thinking, yeah, this is really
• 48:52
  good. I mean, none of them are the
• 48:53
  first one, but no. But they all have things in them
• 48:56
  that are amazing as a trilogy. It's just obviously a classic
• 49:00
  thing. Yeah, the writing is great.
• 49:02
  Yeah, really is did Roberts to make us write it and and direct
• 49:06
  it? Like is it all him or did it?
• 49:08
  He he recorded with Bob Gale. I think he was his writing
• 49:12
  partner on some of his earlier films, films like I want to Hold
• 49:15
  Your Hand and Use Cars. Right, I haven't seen.
• 49:20
  I want a used cars has got Kurt Russell in.
• 49:23
  It's an early performance from Kurt Russell, so it's not bad.
• 49:25
  It's not bad. Worth checking out.
• 49:28
  I don't want to hold your hands about Beatlemania.
• 49:31
  It's actually about The Beatles, like they're at they it's.
• 49:34
  About no, it's about no, they don't feature.
• 49:35
  And it's about like the fans of Beatlemania.
• 49:38
  Is it like a documentary? No, no, no.
• 49:40
  It's like comedy. Oh wow, OK, I'll check that.
• 49:43
  I just watched get back. You know the the apple, right?
• 49:46
  Yeah. Or the Disney Plus thing.
• 49:49
  It's maybe the best thing I've ever seen.
• 49:52
  Wow. Oh my God, it was unbelievable.
• 49:55
  It's 9 hours, something like that, Eight hours.
• 49:58
  And I wish it was longer, like it was over as like because it's
• 50:01
  like hanging out with The Beatles every day I watched it
• 50:04
  like I would watch an hour and then go about my day and then
• 50:06
  come back and watch another hour.
• 50:07
  I didn't even episodically kind of split it up.
• 50:10
  I just whenever I had time, I put it on.
• 50:12
  But it's something you could rewatch for sure.
• 50:14
  Or you could just put on in the background and while you're
• 50:16
  doing the dishes and just have it there because it's not like
• 50:19
  it's not like there's this real storyline.
• 50:21
  There is a storyline, but in general it's random scenes of
• 50:26
  them hanging out writing songs like with such ease and it's so
• 50:30
  natural to them to write absolute hits and they love each
• 50:34
  other so much, which is great to watch.
• 50:37
  We shouldn't be talking about The Beatles thing, but it's I
• 50:39
  recommend getting stuck into that.
• 50:41
  Yeah, I think that's going to be a watch over Christmas for me.
• 50:44
  Yeah, it's very inspiring. So what about Back to the
• 50:48
  Future? Favorite scene?
• 50:49
  Have you got 1? Again, that's a tough one to to
• 50:52
  single out a scene and what's coming to my mind.
• 50:56
  I I like the scene where he's his mother fancies him and she's
• 51:01
  trying to get with him in the car.
• 51:04
  Yeah. Or something like that.
• 51:05
  And then Biff gets in the car and he comes out and beats up
• 51:09
  Biff, and that's just a very satisfying moment where he like
• 51:12
  punches beef and. That's where George clocks beef.
• 51:14
  Yeah, I mean. George Clocks, yeah.
• 51:42
  Are you OK? Pat, you and you said that
• 52:04
  you're, you're in Austin and that's where you that's where
• 52:06
  you lay your head now that's that's where you call home.
• 52:09
  Yeah. How did that come about?
• 52:10
  Because you're from Southern Ireland originally.
• 52:13
  Yeah, well, I'm a musician. It's all, it's all I've ever
• 52:17
  done. And traditionally January is
• 52:19
  like a quiet month. And so I would always take
• 52:21
  January to myself to travel, go somewhere new.
• 52:24
  And in 2017, I, I decided to just, I'd never really explored
• 52:29
  America. I'd visited New York a few
• 52:31
  times, but I was like, I'm just going to go and travel and see
• 52:34
  different parts of America. And I came to Austin because I
• 52:38
  had a friend who lived in Houston who is actually my
• 52:42
  manager now, right? And he was like, come on down to
• 52:45
  Austin. I think you'll love it.
• 52:46
  I didn't know about Austin. I didn't realize the reputation.
• 52:49
  It's the live music capital of the world.
• 52:51
  It's home to all this great music, like it's one of the most
• 52:55
  cultural like musical towns I've ever seen.
• 52:59
  And probably that there is. And so I arrived and the airport
• 53:02
  had this great music plan. Like there was a live band in
• 53:05
  the airport and I was like, wow, this is a good stare.
• 53:08
  I got in a taxi and I was like, bring me to your favorite bar.
• 53:13
  And he brought me to this place called Mean Eyed Cat, which is
• 53:15
  like a Johnny Cash themed bar, which was a cool bar, but there
• 53:19
  was no one in it except this one old man who looked like Santa,
• 53:23
  had this great beard and a cowboy hat.
• 53:25
  And he was really friendly. His name is Winker.
• 53:27
  And turns out he's this legend who goes around to all the geeks
• 53:31
  taking photos and everyone knows him.
• 53:32
  And he was like, come with me to this bar around the corner.
• 53:35
  It's called Don's Depot. And there was this musician
• 53:38
  called Chris Gage playing who's like a famous piano player who
• 53:42
  played with Jerry Jeff Walker and all these famous Texas guys.
• 53:46
  And he was just one of the best musicians I'd ever seen.
• 53:48
  He was just playing in this bar and he I got talking to the
• 53:52
  barmaid and he eventually asked me up to sing and then I was
• 53:57
  like, this is the best place I've ever been.
• 53:59
  It from that moment I knew obviously I spent another two
• 54:02
  weeks in the town and saw all this great music and met these
• 54:04
  great people. But I, when I came back to
• 54:07
  Ireland, I couldn't shake the feeling of being in a town,
• 54:10
  being able to play original music to this community that
• 54:12
  adore it and eat it up and they just want to hear original
• 54:16
  stuff. Which in Ireland I was doing a
• 54:17
  lot of cover gigs at the time. I was playing weddings and
• 54:20
  playing in pubs and really soulless stuff that they were,
• 54:24
  it was paying the bills, but it wasn't feeding my soul in any
• 54:27
  way. And I was like, if I go to
• 54:29
  Austin I could probably start writing songs and actually be
• 54:35
  proud of what I'm doing. So I made the plans to tie up
• 54:38
  any loose ends at home, sold my car, stopped taking bookings and
• 54:42
  the following year got a visa and moved over and never looked
• 54:45
  back. Thankfully it worked out really
• 54:46
  well. Like hit the ground running and
• 54:48
  met some great people and and it's been it's been amazing.
• 54:52
  I don't it feels like home as well.
• 54:54
  Obviously I miss Ireland. I love Ireland, but but I've
• 54:57
  found a home for myself here and I see myself growing old in
• 55:00
  Austin, you know? Wow, incredible.
• 55:03
  Big change of of lifestyle and do you feel as though like the
• 55:06
  landscape or the the history of the the city or or the
• 55:10
  surroundings have an impact on on your songwriting?
• 55:13
  Hugely, the stuff I listen to has changed a lot since moving
• 55:17
  here, like the people I mentioned earlier, like Guy
• 55:20
  Clark and Towns Vanzant and James Mcmurtry.
• 55:23
  And, and aside from that, the people who are just playing now
• 55:26
  regularly embarrassed around town, who I get to see all the
• 55:29
  time are incredible and totally changed the way I write songs
• 55:33
  and, and I get to play with them.
• 55:36
  So I play with these great musicians all the time and
• 55:39
  they've made me become better at music, at the the technical side
• 55:43
  of playing guitar. I'm just better at doing it now
• 55:46
  because of being around these people and seeing and I'm
• 55:49
  totally entrenched in it all the time.
• 55:51
  I live, I live around music 24/7 and my friends are musicians.
• 55:56
  And really, it wasn't like that for me at home.
• 55:59
  I would go and do my wedding and get paid.
• 56:01
  But really, you're playing Brown Eyed Girls four nights a week.
• 56:05
  And yeah, you're not learning anything.
• 56:07
  You're not growing and you're not.
• 56:08
  I wasn't, right? I didn't write really until they
• 56:11
  moved here. So it had a huge effect on my
• 56:15
  music and. Wow, quite a journey.
• 56:19
  Absolutely, yeah. I was 28 when I moved here and I
• 56:22
  hadn't finished the song at that stage, so, so I was very late to
• 56:26
  the game. But it was good to be surrounded
• 56:28
  by pros and really talented people.
• 56:31
  And that's kind of, I feel like I'm getting better all the time,
• 56:35
  you know? Cool.
• 56:36
  OK, So what about film #5 what's your final pick?
• 56:40
  But. You tell me, Luke.
• 56:42
  I can't remember what I said. Cuckoo's Nest.
• 56:46
  Oh, of course. Well, yeah, I mean, I think most
• 56:50
  people who've seen it would put it up there and it's just it's
• 56:53
  another perfect one. Jack, Jack Nicholson just being
• 56:57
  amazing, the story so great and classic characters.
• 57:03
  It's another one I haven't seen in a long time, but but the
• 57:07
  first time I watched it, it was another one of those moments
• 57:10
  where maybe that's the best movie I've ever seen.
• 57:13
  He can't really improve on it. And and you love the characters
• 57:17
  and it's a fun film to watch. It's not Yeah, it's not a
• 57:20
  difficult watch. It's just beautiful and there's
• 57:24
  great messages in there and. It's got a great mixture, a
• 57:27
  great balance of that, the dramatic and the and the comedic
• 57:31
  as well. It really does.
• 57:32
  Christopher Lloyd in there again.
• 57:34
  Yeah. And Danny, a young Danny DeVito
• 57:38
  being super lovable. And.
• 57:40
  And you just love Jack Nicholson's character so much.
• 57:43
  You love his kind of rebellious and how sad it is that that's
• 57:47
  kind of. They're trying to take that from
• 57:49
  him and make him conform. And Milas Foreman, I think,
• 57:53
  didn't he? He says he wrote it, or sorry,
• 57:56
  who wrote it. It's Lawrence Halben and Ball
• 57:59
  Goldman who wrote it, and it's adapted from the the novel the
• 58:04
  Ken Ken, Ken Ken Kesey, I think something like that.
• 58:10
  And he used to host these like acid taking parties and and
• 58:14
  stuff in his house. And I think it was the movie
• 58:17
  came directly out of an acid trip.
• 58:19
  He said he took acid nowhere the whole movie came to and he wrote
• 58:22
  it down and that's where it came from, which I kind of a lot of
• 58:26
  times when I watch movies like especially Lighthouse, I'm like,
• 58:31
  this came from an acid trip. It just seems that these ideas
• 58:34
  are ideas that come to you when you're tripping really hard and
• 58:38
  you're trying to make sense of things.
• 58:39
  But yeah, I just thought that was interesting that he wrote it
• 58:42
  while he was tripping. Wow, Didn't I know that it was
• 58:46
  it was Kirk Douglas who he was in the stage player for it and
• 58:51
  he wanted to bring it to the big screen, but nobody, nobody would
• 58:54
  take it. And then he gave the rights or
• 58:57
  he sold the rights. And then Michael Douglas bought
• 59:00
  the rights. And he he was a pretty sure he
• 59:02
  was an Oscar win and producer before he was even Michael
• 59:04
  Douglas, which I always find fascinating.
• 59:07
  I remember reading that, yeah. So it had been a play for a long
• 59:10
  time. I.
• 59:12
  Think it was published in the 50s.
• 59:14
  OK. I think it's one of those movies
• 59:17
  that kind of you can go back like Back to the Future for me,
• 59:20
  and obviously not as popcorn and fun as Back to the Future, but
• 59:23
  you can always go back. And it's an it's an uplifting,
• 59:26
  life affirming movie while also being very tragic.
• 59:29
  And yeah. Great characters.
• 59:31
  That's kind of maybe a theme with a lot of the movies I've
• 59:33
  chosen. I love the characters and the
• 59:35
  performances as much as anything, and that's kind of
• 59:38
  what I seek out in movies. And Jack Nicholson's at the top
• 59:42
  of his game in this one, so. Yeah, and such a triumphant
• 59:45
  moment when Chief leaves, he finally breaks free at the end.
• 59:49
  That's the scene, isn't it? Yeah, That's amazing.
• 59:52
  And Nurse Wretched is such a great villain.
• 59:55
  Yeah, Like just so stern and doesn't really understate it,
• 59:59
  but like. She's representing everything
• 1:00:02
  that is holding him down, you know?
• 1:00:04
  Yeah, yeah. But she's not, I mean, she's in
• 1:00:07
  a certain respect. She's not like a super villain
• 1:00:09
  or she's not doing anything terrible.
• 1:00:11
  No, I mean, it's it's Jack Nicholson's character.
• 1:00:14
  That's that's that's the breaker, basically.
• 1:00:17
  He knows that. He knows the rules.
• 1:00:20
  Right. But you're kind of on his side
• 1:00:22
  as well because the rules are there to be broken.
• 1:00:25
  And, you know, he's making life better for all these other
• 1:00:27
  patients and. Yeah.
• 1:00:29
  Yeah, yeah, I wish. I, I haven't watched that in
• 1:00:32
  maybe like 7 or 8 years. And I, I wish movies stuck with
• 1:00:36
  me as much as, you know, as I wanted them to.
• 1:00:40
  Like I can't. It's hard for me to pick a pair
• 1:00:42
  of scenes from a movie I haven't seen that long.
• 1:00:45
  I don't know if you're like that.
• 1:00:46
  Like if you've watched, it's very easy for me to talk about a
• 1:00:49
  movie I saw last week or yesterday, but go back further
• 1:00:52
  than that. It's just harder for me to
• 1:00:53
  remember details. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:55
  I don't know if it comes with age.
• 1:00:58
  I find that sometimes in my memory, actually my memories
• 1:01:02
  shockingly bad, terrible, like everyday things, everyday things
• 1:01:06
  I'm terrible at. But with films like character
• 1:01:10
  names, years, the release years, what they won at the Oscars, I
• 1:01:14
  know all of that. I don't know, it's just sticks.
• 1:01:17
  I don't know, I. Suppose it's like that with some
• 1:01:19
  things for me, like Back to the Future, although I've seen Back
• 1:01:22
  to the Future probably 20 times, so there's something to that,
• 1:01:26
  whereas I've probably seen Cuckoo's Nest two or three times
• 1:01:30
  and all a long time ago. But yeah, my memory could be
• 1:01:34
  better. So, are you able to remember
• 1:01:37
  your favorite team from Cuckoo's Nest?
• 1:01:40
  Well, I'll say, Chief, you know, throwing the sink out the window
• 1:01:42
  and that's so like, I mean, it just is great.
• 1:02:07
  And I love the soundtrack for that movie too.
• 1:02:10
  It just has this light hearted feel even during the most awful
• 1:02:14
  moments. Like it's it makes it all seem
• 1:02:17
  like a nice story that you could read to a kid.
• 1:02:21
  Yeah, yeah, it is a little late. That's that's Jack Nietzsche.
• 1:02:25
  He worked on Harvest with Neil Young.
• 1:02:27
  I think he worked with the Stones as well.
• 1:02:30
  Oh my. God, wow.
• 1:02:31
  And I think he was only when he worked on harvest, I think he
• 1:02:34
  was only a 19 or 20 year old kid who who just showed up and he
• 1:02:38
  was like multi instrumentalist. He was multi talented and Neil
• 1:02:42
  Young got him in. Cool.
• 1:02:43
  I like when movies use, you know, contemporary artists.
• 1:02:49
  Like did you see Suspiria that recent?
• 1:02:52
  Haven't I love I love the original but I haven't got round
• 1:02:55
  to see in the the remake. And Radiohead, what's, what's
• 1:02:59
  Radiohead singer's name? Tom York.
• 1:03:01
  Tom York. Wow, there's my memory.
• 1:03:03
  He did the soundtrack and I just absolutely love it.
• 1:03:06
  And then Johnny Greenwood from Radiohead do There Will Be Blood
• 1:03:10
  soundtrack. And Paul Thomas Anderson, always
• 1:03:12
  amazing. And anytime Randy Newman does
• 1:03:15
  the soundtrack, I love it. Yeah, I just love when people
• 1:03:19
  trust a singer-songwriter with a soundtrack, like a contemporary
• 1:03:23
  musician who you can hear also doing like, pop songs.
• 1:03:26
  Yeah, the Trent Reznor stuff with that he does for Fincher.
• 1:03:31
  Amazing. It's not necessarily my type of
• 1:03:33
  music, but that the stuff he does for Fincher's films, it is
• 1:03:36
  incredible. Yeah, when you're talking about
• 1:03:38
  soundtracks, it kind of your your your style of music goes
• 1:03:42
  out to window. It's just doesn't suit the
• 1:03:44
  movie. And is it really good?
• 1:03:46
  And he what else has he done? Like I know he did The Social
• 1:03:49
  Network. What other movies did he do with
• 1:03:50
  Fincher? He did The Girl with the Dragon
• 1:03:53
  Tattoo. Oh, right, yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Yeah, and he did Gone Girl as well, I believe.
• 1:03:56
  Oh, he did. OK, I think so.
• 1:03:59
  Very cool. Incredible.
• 1:04:01
  Yeah. Cool.
• 1:04:02
  OK, so I've got just to wrap us up.
• 1:04:04
  I've got just a few quick fire questions, but just answer the
• 1:04:07
  first answer that comes to your mind.
• 1:04:09
  OK, so you're doing a soundtrack for a movie.
• 1:04:12
  Who's the director and who's the star?
• 1:04:15
  Living or dead? Oh, that's so sorry.
• 1:04:20
  It's not more quick fire. I think Scorsese and De Niro is
• 1:04:26
  just the the marriage. I like Paul Thomas Anderson
• 1:04:29
  working with Daniel Dale Lewis as well.
• 1:04:32
  I think that's kind of undeniable.
• 1:04:34
  Fantastic. Two quick fires, sorry.
• 1:04:36
  That's all right. What's your Have you got a
• 1:04:39
  favorite movie soundtrack? And so many like I, it's kind of
• 1:04:46
  an obvious answer that I love the Inception soundtrack a lot.
• 1:04:49
  Oh. It's huge.
• 1:04:50
  I'll just say that Inception. Cool.
• 1:04:54
  OK, in a film about your life, what songs would be on the
• 1:04:57
  soundtrack that's. The Way the World Goes Round by
• 1:05:00
  John Prine and oh, what else? Some Randy Newman song.
• 1:05:11
  Because I just love Randy Newman's, right?
• 1:05:13
  Yeah, You can leave your hat on version.
• 1:05:17
  Yeah, there's two there. Would be cool.
• 1:05:22
  And who plays you in that film? Oh man, I've never thought about
• 1:05:29
  that. John Goodman.
• 1:05:33
  I can't see the resemblance. My friend, my friends always as
• 1:05:37
  a joke say that to me that John Goodman would play me.
• 1:05:40
  So I'm just going to. Oh well, there you.
• 1:05:41
  Go. I'm just John Goodman.
• 1:05:42
  It is. Josh Harm from Queens of the
• 1:05:44
  Stone Age. He.
• 1:05:45
  Would all right he. Would start an acting career to
• 1:05:48
  play me just because he's OK. Ginger.
• 1:05:51
  OK, so out of the five films that you've talked about, if you
• 1:05:54
  could only save one, which would which would it be?
• 1:05:59
  Oh man, I haven't seen it in the longest but like probably one
• 1:06:03
  floor of the cookies Nest is just such a classic.
• 1:06:07
  Although Back to the Future, no, a world without Back to the
• 1:06:09
  Future is not a world I want to be in, so I'll save that.
• 1:06:13
  Fantastic. OK, and finally, if you could
• 1:06:16
  choose one of your songs to play as the credits roll on Back to
• 1:06:19
  the Future. I would ruin the movie.
• 1:06:23
  I don't think any of the any of my songs would help enhance that
• 1:06:26
  movie at all. And God, none of them would fit.
• 1:06:32
  Maybe. I have a song called Capsize and
• 1:06:34
  that's probably the most uplifting, fun song, and it
• 1:06:37
  needs one of those. It can.
• 1:06:39
  Yeah, it does. And that's that is the song that
• 1:06:41
  I had in mind as well. Great song.
• 1:06:43
  Fantastic. Thanks a lot man.
• 1:06:46
  Great. OK, so you've got a new single,
• 1:06:48
  Outpad that's only a Man that came out mid-december.
• 1:06:52
  Fantastic track. Have you got anything, anythings
• 1:06:55
  that lined up for 2022 gigs? Any new music?
• 1:06:58
  Any writing? Yeah, lots of stuff.
• 1:07:00
  I've been writing a lot, so lots of music coming out.
• 1:07:03
  I'll probably just be releasing singles from now on.
• 1:07:05
  The Bacon and album takes a lot of time and a lot of money and I
• 1:07:08
  just don't have that time or money at the minute.
• 1:07:10
  So I'm going to be releasing singles hopefully every couple
• 1:07:13
  of months and then cool kind of get back to Ireland in February
• 1:07:16
  for it remains to be seen if there'll be any live music
• 1:07:20
  happening in Ireland, but if there is, I'll be playing in
• 1:07:22
  February and then I'll be back in August for shows in Ireland.
• 1:07:26
  And I'm doing South by Southwest this year and a singer
• 1:07:29
  songwriters festival in Florida and a few cool festivals around
• 1:07:32
  America. So yeah, just trying to keep
• 1:07:35
  busy and keep keep the momentum going is all.
• 1:07:38
  Fantastic. Yeah, OK.
• 1:07:41
  It sounds great. Look forward to that.
• 1:07:43
  Well, Pat, it's been great talking to you.
• 1:07:45
  Thanks so much for coming on the show, going through your
• 1:07:47
  favorite films. I really appreciate you coming
• 1:07:49
  on the show. It's been great.
• 1:07:51
  Thank you Luke, anytime I have an excuse to watch movies and
• 1:07:54
  make it look like work would be wonderful, so feel free to
• 1:07:58
  return again. I can, I will do fantastic.
• 1:08:02
  I don't tell Lane. Thanks very much, Pat, much
• 1:08:04
  appreciate it. Take care.
• 1:08:13
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• 1:08:15
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• 1:08:17
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• 1:08:20
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• 1:08:22
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• 1:09:38
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