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2-04-26 Hour 2 - Jared Bednar/Vic's chat with Garett Bolles/Vic asks Terrell Davis about Broncos RBs · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: All right, it's that time of the week. We'll be
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  Speaker 2: joined by Jared Bednar shortly as the Avs play their
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  Speaker 2: last game before the Olympic break tonight, they take on
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  Speaker 2: the Sharks, so we'll talk to them about that as
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  Speaker 2: well as I think this is the last time we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk to him for a few weeks. I would assume, right,
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  Speaker 2: that's ain't coming on during the break. Oh wait, why
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  Speaker 2: would he? I ain't coming on?
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  Speaker 3: That is true, You aren't even coming on the show. No, well, uh,
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  Speaker 3: there's a few.
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  Speaker 2: Things I want to ask him, by the way, because
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  Speaker 2: once we get through this three weeks, we'll have like
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  Speaker 2: what a two week ramp up to the deadline, right,
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  Speaker 2: the trade deadline?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's about yeah, something like that, maybe a little
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  Speaker 4: bit less than two weeks something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll talk to him a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: that as well. The Avs, obviously they're on a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a skid right now. It looks like they're
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  Speaker 2: just trying to get to the break and then figure
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  Speaker 2: things out.
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  Speaker 3: And reset afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: Because you look at the standings again, they're still in
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  Speaker 2: good shape. They're five points up on Minnesota with three
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  Speaker 2: games in hand. There's six points up on Dallas with
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  Speaker 2: two games in hand. But as you've struggled most both
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  Speaker 2: of those teams.
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  Speaker 3: Have done nothing but win.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Dallas is on a five game win streak.
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  Speaker 2: Minnesota's on a four game win streak. Some of the
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  Speaker 2: rumors that I saw from guys like Pierre Lebron Elliott
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  Speaker 2: Friedman that they're sniffing around trying to add Dallas is
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  Speaker 2: some big time players to that lineup already.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, good for them. I hope that they do.
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  Speaker 4: My point is this is that what are they getting
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  Speaker 4: the bread?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's a lock a good question.
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  Speaker 2: Now let's go out and talk to the coach, head
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  Speaker 2: coach the f Jared Bednar joined every Wednesday, Coach, how
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  Speaker 2: you doing good?
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  Speaker 3: Are you doing well?
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  Speaker 5: So?
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  Speaker 2: I know that this little stretch that you guys have
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  Speaker 2: been on has been difficult. You've had guys out lost
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  Speaker 2: some games at a higher clip obviously than earlier in
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  Speaker 2: the year. How much of that is due to trying
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  Speaker 2: to fill guys in with big, big guys being out
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  Speaker 2: due to injury, and how much is that maybe looking
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  Speaker 2: ahead for this Olympic break in the long stretch that
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  Speaker 2: you're you're gonna have off of hockey soon.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's a little bit of both, you know,
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  Speaker 6: Like I think every guy that you lose out of
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  Speaker 6: the lineup, you know, makes winning more difficult. I think
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  Speaker 6: we have a lineup it's playing right now that's certainly
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  Speaker 6: capable of winning every night. But there's been a little
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  Speaker 6: drop off in our game. And it's not just one area.
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  Speaker 6: It's kind of been bouncing around a little bit, or
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  Speaker 6: on most nights it's pretty consistent. It's just like there's
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  Speaker 6: a drop off in our offensive production on some nights,
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  Speaker 6: the defensive games not there. You know, Goaltending wasn't quite
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  Speaker 6: as good as it was before. Finishing on the other
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  Speaker 6: end isn't quite as good as it was before. So
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  Speaker 6: it's kind of just five to ten drop off in
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  Speaker 6: our entire game, and that's leaving games up for grabs
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  Speaker 6: and up the chance, you know, And so yeah, we're
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  Speaker 6: off a little bit. Whether that's a break coming up personnel,
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  Speaker 6: I think it's a culmination of all things right now,
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  Speaker 6: because we're playing some we're playing some really good games
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  Speaker 6: in there too, like the Detroit game, the Toronto game,
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  Speaker 6: But we're having a tough time like sort of putting
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  Speaker 6: the package together on a nightly basis eats a bunch
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  Speaker 6: of real desperate teams.
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  Speaker 4: In your experience, though, what's the what's the best way
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  Speaker 4: to fight through that with a really good hockey club?
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  Speaker 3: Because you are still number one in the National Hockey League?
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  Speaker 7: How do you fight through that?
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  Speaker 8: Is it is?
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  Speaker 5: It?
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  Speaker 7: Is it attention to detail?
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  Speaker 4: Is it take a break? Is it clear your head?
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  Speaker 4: How would you how would you go through that? Like?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, before Yeah, I think it's I think it's like
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  Speaker 6: that's where we're talking like a little bit of the
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  Speaker 6: dog days, like everyone knows his breaks come in there
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  Speaker 6: going to know? Is the deadline will be soon after that?
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  Speaker 6: It's yeah, I don't know. We get number one, We've
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  Speaker 6: got to get these guys healthy. I think that's getting closer.
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  Speaker 6: It looks like Landy and that Cash will be able
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  Speaker 6: to go for the Olympics. Neither one's going to play
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  Speaker 6: tonight for us. That's a big like with OC, Landy
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  Speaker 6: and Neckish and I know we've been without OC, but
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  Speaker 6: you're you're talking about an impactful, whole nother line that
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  Speaker 6: help seeks sort of keep momentum games. So it's been
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  Speaker 6: a little tough sledding creating scoring chances and finishing those
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  Speaker 6: scoring chances because some of your finishers are out. It's
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  Speaker 6: it's complete for me. Just focus mentality. This is mind
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  Speaker 6: over matter type stuff. But just you know, that's easier
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  Speaker 6: said than done trying to fix that at this point.
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  Speaker 6: Just keep the guys focused on the right things, trying
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  Speaker 6: to give them a solid game plan, motivate them as
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  Speaker 6: much as we can to go out and have a
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  Speaker 6: real good stuf to the game. Like the start is key.
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  Speaker 6: I think like you get a lead, then you feel
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  Speaker 6: good about it and things kind of start to snowball.
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  Speaker 6: If you're playing from behind, it's becoming more difficult to
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  Speaker 6: on some nights. The mustard the energy right. So it's
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  Speaker 6: a little bit of a struggle. I don't think there's
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  Speaker 6: one easy way to fix it. You just got to
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  Speaker 6: try to reel the guys in here in dialom in
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  Speaker 6: for one more game before the break.
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  Speaker 2: You said that to Landiskog and Nature's are going to
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  Speaker 2: be playing in the Olympics, is logan O'Connor going to
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  Speaker 2: be ready after this break.
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  Speaker 6: Too early to tell, but he has now been on
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  Speaker 6: the ice, you know for the last five days. I
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  Speaker 6: believe the gym work is ramping up again. You feel
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  Speaker 6: solid in his plan for return to play, and then's
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  Speaker 6: just a batter of like how quickly can he get
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  Speaker 6: everything up to speed respond? But this break is certainly
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  Speaker 6: if there's one guy in our team, that's going to
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  Speaker 6: do him a lot of good. You know, there's some
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  Speaker 6: positive in this break for us. It's getting healthy Logan
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  Speaker 6: I think it's going to really is planning on staying
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  Speaker 6: here and really using this time to try to get
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  Speaker 6: going as close as he can to joining the team
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  Speaker 6: coming out of the break. And then you know guys
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  Speaker 6: like Landy Tasier that have missed significant time, they're gonna
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  Speaker 6: like they're pages back in Landy's you know, got another
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  Speaker 6: week before the Olympic Games start, which is going to
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  Speaker 6: do him good. And getting those guys back and playing
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  Speaker 6: some high level hockey. They should be full stride and
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  Speaker 6: full go after the break. And then we're just hoping
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  Speaker 6: to stay healthy through the Olympics with all the guys
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  Speaker 6: we have going.
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  Speaker 4: Let me, I'm got me ask you a question I
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  Speaker 4: don't know the answer to. Have you ever owned a
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  Speaker 4: muscle car? Like when you're growing up as a sketch,
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  Speaker 4: what did you you ever have like a like a
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  Speaker 4: sixty nine Charger or something like that.
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  Speaker 6: My brother had a seventy two Chevelle. Oh, I have
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  Speaker 6: a seventy two Chevy K five Blazer right now. I
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  Speaker 6: bought a few years back. That was kind of my
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  Speaker 6: dream truck and the one with the full top that
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  Speaker 6: comes off. And I bought that at Barry Jackson told me,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, five years ago, that's sort of my
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  Speaker 6: baby I like to drive around.
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  Speaker 4: That's awesome. Well, here's another dumb motionalogy. Okay, let's take
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  Speaker 4: your brother chevell seventy two Chevelle, and man, he wants
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  Speaker 4: to get on the back roads of sask and he
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  Speaker 4: wants to open it up right and then he runs
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  Speaker 4: into a roadblock. Now and like the cops are like, listen,
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  Speaker 4: we're looking for a lost dog. You know, you gotta
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  Speaker 4: go and for your team and a team that loves
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  Speaker 4: to skate and.
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  Speaker 3: Go north and attack.
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  Speaker 7: To have a.
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  Speaker 4: Team stack up in the neutral zone and at their
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  Speaker 4: blue line for sixty minutes and then flip the puck
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  Speaker 4: back out to your blue line eight hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 4: seven times. I was angry and just in the booth
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  Speaker 4: looking at Johnny Lyles and Ryker, going, I can't do
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  Speaker 4: this for a Ferrari that wants to go. How do
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  Speaker 4: you not get frustrated?
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  Speaker 3: It's a terrible analogy. I thought it was really good.
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  Speaker 6: You have to like that is just discipline, mindset sort
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  Speaker 6: of understand. That's part of like when we game plan
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  Speaker 6: for a team. It's like you if you put pressure
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  Speaker 6: on a team on an entry or on a four
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  Speaker 6: check and they throw it back out in the nutrils
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  Speaker 6: on back to you, and you like, to me, it's
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  Speaker 6: a it's like who's going to break first? If you
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  Speaker 6: can turn that puck around and get on another good
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  Speaker 6: four check and they throw it out again and throw
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  Speaker 6: to Eventually, like the third time or fourth time you
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  Speaker 6: put it in, you may come up with it and
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  Speaker 6: now you've got them fatigued a little bit and you
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  Speaker 6: can play a zone play and hopefully get something going.
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  Speaker 6: It's we've run into that in the playoffs that you
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  Speaker 6: know Pete de Bores teams did that a lot. San
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  Speaker 6: Jose Dallas and you you have to stay patient, and
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  Speaker 6: you have to stay disciplined, and you have to continue
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  Speaker 6: to make real good puckice decisions so you're not trying
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  Speaker 6: to make something out of nothing, and then them attack
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  Speaker 6: on a transition play and catch you with with the
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  Speaker 6: wrong amount of numbers going the other way and catch
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  Speaker 6: an odd bad rush and and hurt you right like
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  Speaker 6: that's it. So it becomes a mind game more than
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  Speaker 6: more than like you know, physical part of the game.
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  Speaker 6: You have to be willing to kind of stay with
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  Speaker 6: it and execute your game plan because eventually you're going
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  Speaker 6: to come up with a putt that you play offensive
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  Speaker 6: zone or create a rush opportunity. It's like who's going
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  Speaker 6: to break first in those situations. So it can be
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  Speaker 6: frustrating because you're not going to create as many chances
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  Speaker 6: as you normally would in a game, But it's all
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  Speaker 6: about just creating more than they get and capitalizing on
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  Speaker 6: a few of them.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I hate it. Number one. Number two.
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  Speaker 4: I know, if you if you could, just if you could,
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  Speaker 4: just like like you saw in Detroit, if you get
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  Speaker 4: a lead and you force them out of that, then
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  Speaker 4: that's where you're you know, your power, your speed, you're
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  Speaker 4: attacking notion and take care of your own end and
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  Speaker 4: then attack out of that. That's where that's where it
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  Speaker 4: can really work for you, right, no.
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  Speaker 6: Question, that's why the starts so important. That was not
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  Speaker 6: the ideal. I mean that as it turns out, right,
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  Speaker 6: like they score the first shift of the game, they
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  Speaker 6: catch us on an OWD man rash. We kind of
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  Speaker 6: like swoop in on it, sweep in on it, and
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  Speaker 6: they punch it by us, and then we can't get
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  Speaker 6: a tracker back as we run into the crowd, and
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  Speaker 6: they capitalize first shift of the game. And now they're
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  Speaker 6: playing with the lead. They can if it's a good
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  Speaker 6: discipline team like Detroit is. Right now, they can stay
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  Speaker 6: in that structure and you don't force them out that
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  Speaker 6: structure the entire night. Now, we we created enough chances
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  Speaker 6: to win that hockey game. Again, it's lower numbers than normals.
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  Speaker 6: That they had lower numbers normal I thought we checked
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  Speaker 6: real well in that game, Like we've made some mistakes.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously they did as well, but we didn't capitalize on
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  Speaker 6: a couple of our really good looks, and so we
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  Speaker 6: don't get the check, don't even the game or go
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  Speaker 6: ahead in the game, and then they're gonna The longer
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  Speaker 6: the game goes on, the more they're going to dig
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  Speaker 6: into that structure of just throwing it out into the
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  Speaker 6: neutrizone and throwing it in, and it's up to us
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  Speaker 6: to sort of break them out of that and square
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  Speaker 6: up the game. And so they have to open it
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  Speaker 6: up a little bit if they want to win.
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  Speaker 3: Head coach the F J.
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  Speaker 2: Benner with this as he is every Wednesday, eight o'clock.
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  Speaker 2: It's all brought to you by mister Ruter Plumbing, proudly
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  Speaker 2: rooting for Colorado's hockey team. You know, you brought up
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  Speaker 2: the word discipline, and I know you've been asked a
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  Speaker 2: million times about the power play how to improve that.
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  Speaker 2: But another byproduct to this, you guys lead the league
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  Speaker 2: in shorthanded goals allowed. Is that a discipline thing or
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  Speaker 2: is that bad luck? What do you attribute that to?
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's definitely not bad luck. It's it's it's a
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  Speaker 6: discipline things. It's the power play, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 6: create something out of nothing. A lot of them are
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  Speaker 6: coming at the end of the power play when they're
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  Speaker 6: tired and they're pressing to try to get something because
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  Speaker 6: they want to get rewarded for their work and then
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  Speaker 6: and it's like, so it's kind of turned on. It's
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  Speaker 6: going the other way too many times here recently, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I think we thought that stretch early in the year.
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  Speaker 6: Then we kind of dug our way out of that,
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  Speaker 6: except some of those habits of pressing laid in power
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  Speaker 6: plays to try and make something happen, and not staying
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  Speaker 6: disciplined in getting above pocks. If there's fifty to fifty
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  Speaker 6: pucks to be one, the word just hanging around below
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  Speaker 6: it's sort of cheating for offense and they're going the
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  Speaker 6: other way. So it's that to me, is that the
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  Speaker 6: mentality and a habit that you have to break that
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  Speaker 6: we've kind of addressed a couple times over the season.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people do ask me about the power
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  Speaker 3: play coach.
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  Speaker 7: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what to say, because on any given
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  Speaker 4: night it's something different. It could be shot volume, it
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  Speaker 4: could be you know, only play is great, it could
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  Speaker 4: be you can't even enter the zone. It doesn't seem
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  Speaker 4: to be any one thing on any given night.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how to talk to people about that
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  Speaker 3: or explain it to people.
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  Speaker 7: How would you?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's difficult. Because you're wrong there. The thing is
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  Speaker 6: that I'm trying to get our guys to focus on
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  Speaker 6: now is like you can't carry the baggage of you know,
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  Speaker 6: the fifty some games we've played now into the next game.
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  Speaker 6: Like we you know, set up the game plan trying
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  Speaker 6: to get everyone on the same page. It changes, you know,
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  Speaker 6: a little bit, depending on what kill we're facing. This
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  Speaker 6: few different ways that teams like to try and kill
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  Speaker 6: against us, and then there's always going to be something
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  Speaker 6: available there. It's there. There's a work portion of that
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  Speaker 6: that has to be on that that's been inconsistent. There's
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  Speaker 6: an attack mentality that has to be on, and then
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  Speaker 6: a little bit more like puck management, execution and everyone
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  Speaker 6: sort of working in tandem with one another. That is
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  Speaker 6: a key to it. And so if you look at say,
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  Speaker 6: like the Detroit game, we have two power plays in it.
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  Speaker 6: The power play was lethal, we just didn't put it
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  Speaker 6: in the back of the net. We are definitely not
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  Speaker 6: scoring easy on our chances on the power play, like
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  Speaker 6: we are five on five. But I don't see any
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  Speaker 6: way but to just sort of get them on the
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  Speaker 6: same page, make sure they know what they're supposed to do,
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  Speaker 6: and then try to execute through it. But if you're
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  Speaker 6: taking fifty games of baggage and that sort of frustration
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  Speaker 6: of mentality into every game, then you're not going to
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  Speaker 6: have success. Right. I look at the Detroit game and
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  Speaker 6: I go, okay, repeat it, repeat it tomorrow night, and
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  Speaker 6: you guys will score. Yeah, you have six seven scoring
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  Speaker 6: tens and two power plays. It's a good clip. You're
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  Speaker 6: looking for those quality chances. Someone needs to put one
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  Speaker 6: in the back of the net and get the snowball
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  Speaker 6: rolling downhill a little bit. And it's been frustrating because
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  Speaker 6: they're not getting rewarded for some of the good work
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  Speaker 6: they do. And then on the other side of it,
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  Speaker 6: like you said, we're already giving up chances pressing. So
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  Speaker 6: it's it's become a little bit of a monster of
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  Speaker 6: its own that we have to break the cycle on.
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  Speaker 6: And when we do, I believe that it can start
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  Speaker 6: to find some traction.
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  Speaker 2: A couple more For you, coach, I always appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 2: Tried to get this to you last week and then
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  Speaker 2: got super loud. He had to go to a meeting.
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  Speaker 2: Just curious the trade deadline. I know it's weeks away,
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  Speaker 2: but after this break it'll be coming up pretty quick.
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  Speaker 2: You guys have been very aggressive in the past making moves,
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  Speaker 2: trading for goalies and centers and everything else. How comfortable
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  Speaker 2: are you with this year's roster compared to the last
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  Speaker 2: two three years?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, definitely more comfortable. We've had so many ads at
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  Speaker 6: the end of the season the last two years because
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  Speaker 6: we've started thin for cap reasons and knowing know if
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  Speaker 6: we need something and the team and the top guys
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  Speaker 6: and the sort of our core is performing that we
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  Speaker 6: go and try to add it. We're a much deeper
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  Speaker 6: team when we're healthy than we've been in the past
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  Speaker 6: two years. So I feel a lot better about the group.
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  Speaker 6: Like we have the goaltending set, We've got a great cores,
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  Speaker 6: We've got four lines that can play, you know, when
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  Speaker 6: we get them all back healthy. And I think we're
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  Speaker 6: a better team going into the deadline this year for
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  Speaker 6: sure than we've been over the last few years.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Last thing for you, coach, and always appreciate it.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I know with the Olympics coming up, you're gonna have
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: a chance to sit down and watch your players and TV,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: which you don't get to do very often. How much
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: of that is going to be excitement watching them play
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: for their home countries and how much are you gonna
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: be holding your breath every time they get close to
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: taking a hit.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: It'll be more excitement. And the games of the game,
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: I think they're all going to go play hard. The
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: harder you play and the harder you compete, I'd say
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: in these it's going to be physical for sure, But
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: it's it's every game is so important that there's not
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: as much I don't know, it's just it'll be a
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: clean style game because you're playing Olympic rules too, So
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: it's like, I'm just excited for those guys their opportunity
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: go represent their countries and and go chase gold, you know.
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: So it'll it'll definitely be more excitement. But I'm certainly
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: going to be hoping that they all come back, you know, healthy.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: They won't be as arrested as some of the other guys.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: But every team's kind of in that same boat. We
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: got a lot of guys going and we'll manage that after.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: But I'm excited for these guys and the opportunity to
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: go over there, and I'm excited to watch them play
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: as well.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: You know, I know you've dressed for a theme before
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Military Knights and that sort of thing. Uh, We're gonna
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: have a little sendoff for the the Avalanche players who
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: are going to the Olympics before the game tonight against
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: the Sharks. I'm gonna wear my USA stuff. I got
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: a USA pin already on my U on my blazer,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: I got my red, white and blue tie. I'm gonna
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: look the part tonight for Team US A.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: Well, Broccobroco appreciate that.
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: I like it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, I'm certainly wait better.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: This is another one of those more makes a statement
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: and I don't know what because I know him.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: He's all, well, yeah, I'll be wearing red and white.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: What is on what is on coaches agenda for the
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: next three weeks? What's the number one thing you want
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: to do in some free time.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: I'm going to Hawaii for the first time in my life. Oh,
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: that's awesome, taking the whole family and going to get
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: away for a little bit. And I'll be back to
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: do some work that last week before season opens up
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: and guys come back to town and get him focus on
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: getting him back roll and again coming out of the break,
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: the busy stretch coming out of that break by five
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: and seven nights right out of the gate with crazy
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: twenty seven and fifty two days to finish the year,
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: so it shall be a sprint to the finish. So
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: we'll have to be rested and prepared ready for that
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: and mentally reset and ready to go.
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm about wear in my USA pin tonight.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah a loha coach.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Uh, you have a good break, But get that win
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: tonight first, then we'll talk to you here in a
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: Coach sounds a good fellow. Thanks my coach.
• 18:55
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• 19:02
  Speaker 4: You dismissed that like you're a comedy what They're just
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: so good for you with the uy.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: No, this is what you did. I'm gonna be wearing
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: my USA pin tonight. Then you just stopped talking. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: don't know what else to say. I'm just supposed to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: say I'm going to represent Uh yeah, you.
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: Always just go to that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: If you missed any of that, it'll be on the
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: podcast shortly. But a lot more to get to this morning.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Stick around it's official. By the way, mos, I have
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: to watch that entire Bill Maher Marshaun Lynch conversation. I
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: just showed you a minute and a half of that
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: where Bill Maher talked to Marshawn about going to a
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: strip club and it's different worlds.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: They responded to Earth in Mars.
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: It's pretty interesting.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Just imagine what Marshan would say that I can't say
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: on the air, and then Bill Maher calling them bulbous butts.
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• 20:10
  Speaker 3: What have been doing, Vic, What have been doing?
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: I just ran into Terrell Davis, you guys saw him earlier,
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: so I did a quick walk and talk with TD
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: and I asked him specifically about the Broncos run game.
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: Nelly is getting that fed from Jesse, and you're gonna
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: want to hear what he had to say about how
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: to fix the Broncos run.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Get a number thirty in the backfield, that'll be easier.
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he looks like he still do it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: Dude.
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: Terrell Davis is always better shape now than he was.
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: I think when he played crazy.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: If you have a thirty Hall of Famer in the backfield.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: But I can't even express to you what an awesome
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: player he was and what a great.
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: Luxury was in the second half.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: I remember, it's it's man, you got a Vick, you
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: got a fourteen point lead, and you know what he's
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: doing late in the third quarter.
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: He is punishing fools.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: He's picking up six extra after ramming two guys in
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: the head and continuing on.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: It's what anner I know.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I want to hear your your conversation with Garrett Bulls Vick, who,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: by the way, he was named Walter Payton Man of
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the Year that.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: It was the Community.
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: Service Page community a different award. Okay, just start naming guys.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: In there whenever he won something cool for being the.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Tom anyway, congrats, dam I I want to hear this
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: conversation and what his answer was for the run game.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: In just a second, I have a war arguing about
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: a football but most you's right, what's the easiest way
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: to fix it? I don't know. Get a Hall of
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Famer back there, that'll help me.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: Hey, why is the why is the Colts run game
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: so good?
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: You got Jonathan Taylor?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, name a single offensive lineman Barry Sanders had
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: You can't. Barry Sanders was great?
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: Hey those when the Eagles, you got yourself a saquon
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: and his legs are as big as Vicks trunk.
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's like, come on, man.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So Nellie, while you're you're finding the TD interview, you
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: have what the bulls?
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: What did Jared Bednar say? By the way, unfortunately I
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: wasn't here for that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: Look it up.
• 22:20
  Speaker 8: Just give me an abbreviated version. Where's where's his mindset?
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: Right now?
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: You've got social media, you've got well.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I asked him how much of the struggles recently are
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: due to injuries and due to you guys looking ahead?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: And he so, he said, it's probably a combination of both.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: You know, you feel that that break's coming and it's natural.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: It's a dog days of the season sort of thing.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: And vic you know, one thing he does not do.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: He doesn't excuse anything away.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: He'll give you.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: He'll give you examples of why things are broken here
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: at times, or why they're there and lack of discipline
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: or it's too much pressing and you know. But he
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: doesn't shy away from what goes wrong with his team.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Here's where I struggle at times.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Oh here's a big one though, Vic, just just quick memories.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: You're gonna say he said that Landy and Nat just
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: look like they're gonna play in the Olympics. It's too
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: early to say on Logan O'Connor, but he is trending
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the right way towards maybe coming back after the break.
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: Very good. See, I just wanted an abbreviate version. I'm
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: not sure I need all of Moser's thoughts on that.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Ohead, your thoughts. What people are texting in. They they
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: want heads for some reason, they want heads to roll.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Why didn't you ask why Kale can't hit the net? Okay,
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask the coach, well the why the best
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: defenseman in.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: The planets ain't hitting the net? Right now?
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen to yourself and and I'm not I'm
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: not I'm not trying to. I understand people are passionate
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: about their team. I understand that they they want Cale
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: to hit the net. I understand they want McKinnon to
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: to dangle guys, you know, one hundred and eighty feet
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: and go top shelf. I get I get that, Okay,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: But the game is hard. It's an eighty two game season.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Does anybody realize, you know, the Dallas Stars how many
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: how many points back of the Abs right now, Brett six?
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Six points back of the ass the Dallas Stars are?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: You know, they went through a stretch where they lost
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: twelve of fifteen games. They lost six in a row,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: won a game, lost four in a row, won a game,
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: lost two in a row. I mean, they lost twelve
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: of fifteen and that was reason. Now they've won how
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: many row have they won?
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Four?
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I think they're at five, four or five?
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, they've won four or five in a row. Now, yeah,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: they won five in a row. But before that they
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: lost twelve of fifteen. But is anybody in Dallas going,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: oh my god, you know, ask these knuckleheads why they
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's the way it goes. The Abs,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: by the way, as we sit here right now are
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: still the number one scoring team in the entire National
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Hockey League. Their goal differential is still by far the
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: best in the league. Nathan McKinnon still leads the league
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: in goals. They have by far the best home record
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: in the I mean, it's there's still so much that's positive.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: A But this is why I shut up, because I
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: knew you were going to say.
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: Something I just wanted.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I don't want to people want their pound of flesh
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: because the team is in a rut, and I'm like, man,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: teams go through ruts. It's still the best team in
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: the league.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I saw this the other day.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: It's like you guys talk to Bednar every week and
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: just toss some softballs and I'm like, okay. So when
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I asked the question of shorthanded goals, you lead the
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: league in those.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: What is what attributes to that?
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: He said, Do you want me to say something like
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: the Bears radio station where it's like your connection is
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: as bad as your power play right now, or something
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: I don't I don't want.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: To ask it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: But his reaction was this br It's like, is this
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: this is the bad Like he goes.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not bad luck.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: He did say that. Yeah, like I said, he's a
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: discipline or bad luck he is it ain't He.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Was like, hees it ain't bad luck. I can promise
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: you that he knows that they're blowing it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: I do want to hear this Garrett Balls interview. So
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Nelly that that you got a cue up?
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Go ahead?
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, go ahead, Victor.
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you just set it up. So Garrett was in
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: a suit yesterday here at the media center with this family,
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: and he had a bunch of people with him and
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: We're like, why is he running around in his suit?
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: I did not know that he is the recipient of
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: the nflpa's Alan Page Community Service Award. He started a
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: foundation and the foundation funds research and therapy work for
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: people kids, primarily with a proxia, which is a disease
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: his son has and it's a disability that forces you
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: to learn how to speak out your words. His son
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: has issues with speaking out his words. So he sees
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: a speech pathologist and he's got a clinic that he funds,
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: and he's gone out of his way to fund this
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: for a bunch of kids in Denver and really poured
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: out his heart and soul into this. So this is
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: why he's here. We talked about his turnaround from a
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: guy who his rookie season was you know, flagged off
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: and people said, what is this, what's going on to
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: what he is today? And he's a pro bowler today,
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: he's a man end of the year today. He is
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: truly a role model. That is Garrett Bowles.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: Can you believe how far you've come? Cursonally since you
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: mentioned this, Look at where you are today.
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: You're winning National Awards, You're winning the NFL Awards. You
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: surprise yourself at all. I'm always surprised, but I never
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: doubt on myself. You know, I want to create a legacy.
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: That's the most important thing to me is I'm having
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: a legacy that my family and my kids can look.
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: Back and know that dad did what dad did. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: there's nothing better than creating a legacy and having your
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: son right next to you the whole time.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: And that's who we are.
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: You know, we love God, we love people, and we
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: want people to have a voice on a platform. We
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: want people to express themselves and to be able to
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: share their stories and deliver their dream like me and
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: my wife are doing, and to be that voice in
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: that platform for now, only the Broncos organization, but for
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: the NFL PA at the NFL and to be able
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: to to do the things that I'm doing, that's truly
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: a blessing and I'm being ungrateful to be recognized.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I know you're here with friends for the Pro Bowl,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: but does the hurd AFC Championship? Do you still feel it?
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: You still think about it?
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: I mean, obviously I'm frustrated, and you know, I've had
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: some time to reflect on that game. But at the
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: end of the day, I know where our team's going.
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: I know what we're going to do to change some
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: things to get back to where we belong. We were
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: three points away, so still stings, still frustrating, But at
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: the same time, I'm focusing on what'sn't born, and that's
• 28:24
  Speaker 10: this week and what we're doing here, not all along
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: with my foundation, but with my fellow nominees and my
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: other my fellow Pro Bowlers that are here with me,
• 28:33
  Speaker 10: to be able to celebrate the accomplishments that we've done
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: this season.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: Last point, Garrett, I know your offensive line is one
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: of the best in the league.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: How do we get the run? Da ho Doly make
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: something that you don't lean.
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: I mean, obviously, our run game was dominant this year
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: at points. I mean obviously, you know, with JK going
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: down was frustrating, but we saw JK, you know, his
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: his spirit and we love him dearly. But we saw
• 29:00
  Speaker 10: Harvey doing the things that we needed to do to
• 29:03
  Speaker 10: get things going. We were right there. Man, when we
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: lost by three points, I had nothing to do with
• 29:07
  Speaker 10: our run game. It just had things. We had some injuries,
• 29:09
  Speaker 10: we lost our quarterback Sid he stepped in what he
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: needed to do, and you know, the ball just didn't
• 29:14
  Speaker 10: bounce our way. We gotta we got to figure out
• 29:17
  Speaker 10: how to sustain drives better, make sure that we're you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 10: pushing the ball downfield on third down and doing the
• 29:24
  Speaker 10: little things. And we focus on the little things, which
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: as we've done for the last three years, we're going
• 29:29
  Speaker 10: to continue to be in the playoffs and continue to
• 29:31
  Speaker 10: make runs.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Would you be comfortable with Davis web call plays?
• 29:35
  Speaker 10: Hey, listen, if he's gonna call plays or SP's gonna
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: call plays. We have the same people around our building,
• 29:41
  Speaker 10: the same coaching staff. I'm just looking forward to seeing
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: what happens and the amazing things that we're going to
• 29:46
  Speaker 10: do this this come up here.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Congratulations crowd, Thank you, thank you very much, appreciate it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: That is Vick with Garrett Bulls yesterday. I don't know
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: if I totally buy it that the running game was
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: not a problem.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I buy that, but.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: I understand, like if you're one of those players, it
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: would be really hard Vic for I mean you to
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: look at it the way that maybe we do or
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: the fan base does. They were right there and they
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of them are saying the same things that
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I almost think they shouldn't say this out loud, Like
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Cortland Sutton said this yesterday. This is from Gorilla Sports.
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: You'll draw yourself crazy sitting there thinking about the what ifs,
• 30:32
  Speaker 11: and so I eventually got over to what IFFs, but
• 30:34
  Speaker 11: I haven't got over the situation. I tell my boy,
• 30:37
  Speaker 11: I said, maybe after the game, I'll get over it.
• 30:38
  Speaker 11: One super Bowl ends, I'll get over it. But best
• 30:41
  Speaker 11: of luck to both of those teams who're out there
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: performing doing that thing. You know, everyone knows the Broncos
• 30:46
  Speaker 11: should have been in there, but it's uh so.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Cortland said that I heard PS two saying, I've heard
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Garrett bull say it. I don't I just shoot on
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: the other foot, if Drake May got hurt after the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Divisional round and the Broncos beat them ten to seven,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: they're in the super Bowl.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: And I heard Patriots people saying that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: Like, oh, shut up, yeah, I know, but you're not
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: Patriots people. We're talking on behalf of the Broncos. You
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: had it laid out on a platter for you, and
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: then the worst case scenario unfolded. Your quarterback got hurt
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: in a mindless play late in the game, and then
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: it snowed at the worst possible time. I mean, think
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: about the misfortune. Think about the years from now when
• 31:20
  Speaker 8: we look back at the twenty twenty five AFC title game,
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: the misfortune that hit the Broncos in the worst possible time.
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: It's it's awful. Now. When I asked Garrett Boules there
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: about how to fix the run game, did you guys
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: catch it there? His immediate response was, well, we had
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: a great run game, you know JK. And then he
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: caught himself said, you know what RJ was doing, But
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: it's the running back. According to him, it's the running back.
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: It starts with the running back. And he's not the
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: only person who feels that way. Terrell Davis. You're gonna
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: hear from Terrell Davis soon. He said the same thing.
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: You know, I always assumed and this is me watching
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: it starts up front. You got to open up the holes.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: Terrell Davis says, no, starts at the running back. You
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: heard Garrett Bowles immediate response, We had a dominant run game,
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: and then JK went.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Down that I don't know if it was dominant, but
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: it was good. It was a good run game with JK,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: this would have been saying the whole time. And by
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: the way, Garrett Bull said this immediately the day after
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: they lost the AFC Championship game. He did the answer
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: and at the very end he said, we just need
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: a couple more playmakers in here. Like I I it's
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: funny when I bring this up, I go, the easiest
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: way you can fix things is by getting better players,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: like when you brought this up, and I totally understand
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: where you're coming from. A few days ago, Vick, well,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Mike Shanahan was able to do it with Tatum Bell
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: and Orlanda's Gary and everybody else that was not considered
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: all pro level talents. Well, he's an all world level coach.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That's in in schemer like.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: The walls, but the way the way they blocked, the
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: way those old Broncos teams blocked the cut blocking when
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: was allowed.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: They were superb at it.
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: So listen.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Mike Anderson was a good back with Orlandis. Gary was
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: a good back, Tatum Bell was a good back, Clinton
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Portis was a good They're all good backs and there
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: and the scheme allowed them to be better backs. Perhaps
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: they would have been someplace else. Terrell Davis was by
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: far a huge stud that he's one of the best
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: backs I've ever seen.
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I appreciate it. I appreciate the hell out of TV.
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: When you listen to player interviews, especially players that still
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: feel the pain of a loss, and players that understand
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: that teammates then they don't want to offend teammates. You
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: have to parse through the noise. You have to sort
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: of whittle it down to what they really mean. They're
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: not going to offend each other. He's not going to
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: throw RJ. Harvey under the bus. He's not gonna do that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: He's not gonna throw his plate caller under the bus.
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: But you have to listen to how he presents his
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: answer and to me listening to Garrett Bowles again answering
• 33:59
  Speaker 8: that question. It's the running back, It's the running back. Yeah, Nelly,
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: do you have Terrell Davis available? We just did a
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: little walk and talk with TD I do. And why
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: don't we get to that next? Oh, because we're at
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: the top of the hour. Look at Nelly run the
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: show the way that Powder should be running the show.
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: Nelly is now operating the show on his watch. He
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: is the captain.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Now, you just kept bumping your gums, you know what
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I mean. So we'll get to that in just a second.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Terrell Davis and little walk and talk with Vic. Next,
• 34:31
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• 34:34
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• 34:38
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• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Now, Vick's getting a lot of great interviews. I love
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: the Garrett Bowles thought that was great. I like Pat
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: from Wichita yesterday. I thought he was great. All the
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: stuff hell the hell of get there, Nick Benito, and
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: I asked certain yesterday. This is all all good stuff. Hey,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Pat's a good struggle, good guy.
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: Butler is next level though, And for those who missed
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: it in the first hour, we'll have it in the
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: last hour as well.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: But but I can imagine vic. Hey, I caught up
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: with Kerrie Strugg the other day. She's here promoting like a.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? You know what?
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: That is the lamest attempt. Moser's is gonna leave. He's
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: going to Spain for like two weeks. Mosure just saw
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: and we'll get through all Davis in a second. That
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: is the most blatant shoehorn of a topic I've ever
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: seen in my life. You went around, he just saw
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Greeney on ESPN and talk about the gutsiest performances in
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: sports history. And Carrie Strugg was on there and most
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: just had to say her name to talk about it.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: That's all that was. Oh good God. By the way,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: we'll get to TV in a second.
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: Freak.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Can somebody explain this one to me?
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Lindsey Vaughan was just airlifted from a ski lift because
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: she fell into a ratio, and then she's going to continue.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: To participate in the Olympics. She said this, I'm not.
• 36:04
  Speaker 12: Letting this slip through my fingers. I'm I'm going to
• 36:09
  Speaker 12: do it and this story so I'm not letting myself
• 36:12
  Speaker 12: go down that path.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: I'm not crying.
• 36:14
  Speaker 12: I'm my head is high, I'm standing tall, and I'm
• 36:19
  Speaker 12: going to do my best and.
• 36:20
  Speaker 10: Whatever the result is, that's what it is.
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: But you can never say I didn't try.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Somebody explained this to me as somebody who's never skied before.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: It feels like there's a lot of stress on your knees.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: How do you do that?
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Well, it can't be well, I don't know. Listen, I
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: read the article. She's already over in Courtina, Italy.
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: I read the article where last week she had a
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: crutch that she had to crutch around you know it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: And now she's doing box jumps, working out in the pool,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: skiing high speed with a weighted vest. So it's obviously
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: not a torn acl Well, I mean.
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: They say it's a ruptured aco.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Well, here's where texture Aaron says. My mother is an
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: orthopedic surgeon here in Colorado. She said this about the
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Lindsay vonn injury. It's likely her ACL was already torn.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: She had no swelling, and she is only a week out.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: A brand new, fully torn ACL generally has a ton
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: of swelling early on. They say Elway towards ACL likely
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: in high school, played his whole career without one. So
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: she's saying like, because there's no swelling, she can get
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: through it. I still think that sounds ridiculous.
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: I I you know, listen, I don't know medically how
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: this affects her. I know that everybody's different. Every ACL
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: is different. I know that Elway played without one his
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: entire career, different circumstances that happened early in his life.
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: He adapted to it, right, he adapted. This is an
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: adaptation of a torn ACL a month later. That's crazy.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: I don't know how you do it. And you're going
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: downhill a week later. Yeah, I don't know how you
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: do it. I don't know how it happens. Is she
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: tougher than most? Maybe she is tougher than every.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Dingy, Hey mosh, how about you put her in the
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Kerry strug category of she's milking it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: It must not be that bad. How about that?
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: You want to do that to Lindsay von huh.
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: No, man, I just can't wait to get the Sunday
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: at nine am. You know what that is?
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: What's that?
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Actually it's Wednesday, next Wednesday at nine am. What the
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: men's doubles loose fund?
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: Okay, got it? Can't wait. It's gonna be awesome.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: VIC talked to Terrell Davis and Vic, anything you want
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: to set up before this?
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah? I mean this. This helps try to answer the question.
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: You know, I asked him a little bit about the
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: AFC Championship game, and then we got into the run game.
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: And there's no better authority to talk about a run
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: game than the greatest running back in Broncos history, Hall
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: of Famer Terrell Davis, who was walking around here doing
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: his interviews. And it's the age old question, chicken or egg?
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: Is it the running back or is it the offensive line?
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: What makes the running game?
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: Go?
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Listen to TD.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I gotta ask you what was going through your mind
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: when we watched the second happened from that AFC Championship
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: be man, it's hard.
• 38:51
  Speaker 13: It was hard at watching Offensively, we couldn't get anything
• 38:55
  Speaker 13: done and obviously.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: You know, the weather wasn't ideal, but it may.
• 39:00
  Speaker 13: It's like you have a team that you know, you're
• 39:02
  Speaker 13: not scoring courts, you're not moving the ball, you're not
• 39:03
  Speaker 13: really being effective. That's it hard for me to watch,
• 39:06
  Speaker 13: right And you know, I know we we put a
• 39:09
  Speaker 13: lot of sock and stint of coming in and being
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: a backup quarterback, and but it wasn't realistic for him
• 39:15
  Speaker 13: to come in there and have to do a lot
• 39:16
  Speaker 13: mone He hasn't played in two years on those conditions.
• 39:19
  Speaker 13: So you know, fencipally we played, you played well. Kind
• 39:23
  Speaker 13: of get a run game going TV. Does that start
• 39:25
  Speaker 13: up front or is that starting in the backfield? Where's
• 39:27
  Speaker 13: that started it start? I think it starts with the back.
• 39:30
  Speaker 13: It starts with the backs. The backs. You know, I've
• 39:32
  Speaker 13: always felt like this, man, the harder I ran, the
• 39:34
  Speaker 13: better they blocked.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: The better day blocked the harder I ran.
• 39:37
  Speaker 13: So there's it's it's a relationship that the back and
• 39:41
  Speaker 13: the officer of line starts to generate this this this
• 39:45
  Speaker 13: you know, kind of all right, I understand what's happening.
• 39:48
  Speaker 13: We're gonna block more. I understand how you run, so
• 39:50
  Speaker 13: I'm a block according to that. It's just in this
• 39:54
  Speaker 13: stage of football, all the rotating backs coming in, I
• 39:56
  Speaker 13: just don't know how you can get a back and groove.
• 39:59
  Speaker 13: You know, it's just difficult to established run game when
• 40:03
  Speaker 13: you got four people rotating into a game.
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: Right, and then let's.
• 40:07
  Speaker 13: Say, if I know I'm getting let's say die touches
• 40:10
  Speaker 13: in the game, I want to pass up a two
• 40:12
  Speaker 13: yard run trying to hit the six yard front because
• 40:15
  Speaker 13: I got to make the most of that running. So
• 40:17
  Speaker 13: you don't have the you don't have the luxury of
• 40:18
  Speaker 13: setting things up and playing chess. You know, everybody else
• 40:22
  Speaker 13: is you. You know, now you got to play check
• 40:23
  Speaker 13: if I want to play chess, right, That's that's kind
• 40:26
  Speaker 13: of how I use the analogy of backs.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: Nowadays, you've gotten too thin. I feel like I can
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: tackle you right now in the open field.
• 40:33
  Speaker 13: Yeah, well I have I have no It's all good man.
• 40:37
  Speaker 13: I'm getting known. My joints are beat up. I got
• 40:38
  Speaker 13: to lose to the great. Yeah, appreciate it, thanks, buddy,
• 40:40
  Speaker 13: say it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: I really do believe I could drop him right now
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: if we're doing the Oklahoma dro He's lost so much weight.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I really believe.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I want to see it, and I want to see
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: your teeth get knocked out.
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: I'm dead, honest. I think I can bring him down.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I'd like to drop you.
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: But there's the answer.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: He's not a fan of the rotating back thing. He's
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: not a fan of a guy going in for one
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: series being replaced the next. He's not a fan. He
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: thinks it's it's harder on a run game to get going.
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: It's it's harder on a running back to get his feeling.
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: He's probably lying.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: He's probably not wrong about that, Vick. I mean, if
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: you're imagine the offensive line of the Broncos in the
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: late nineties, and you're you, you're your Bell cow is TD,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: and you know how he runs, you know where he
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: wants to run, you know his favorite gaps and so
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: on and so forth, and you know his game, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: so they work together as such an awesome unit. I'll
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: give you an example, even before Dobbins got hurt, I
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: mean they were. Harvey got his fair share, did he not, Brett?
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: Sure he did.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, let me give an example of the Indianapolis Colts.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor got three hundred and twenty three carries this
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: year for fifteen and eighty five yards. DJ Giddens before
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: he got hurt Week ten, twenty six carries.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Amir Abdullah he's still around. Yeah, fourteen carries.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: I mean you got if you've got a bell cow,
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: it was them, That's what That's what the Colts do
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: because they've got one of those guys.
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: They just don't grow on trees anymore.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Well, Sean Payton's always done this, even when he's had
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: really good backs, like mark Ingram split time, Alvin Kamara
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: split time.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: Like he's a system.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's the system, but it's also like it's
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: just how talented are your guys back there?
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: And maybe R. J.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Harvey wasn't ready, which breeds another sort of concern in
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: and of itself. Running backs don't need years to get it.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: They kind of get in the league and either they
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: go or they don't, you know what I mean. Now
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: the other stuff like maybe past protection on third down
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: that might be a learned skill, but can you find
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: a hole and hit it?
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: Okay, So let's just wear the jury here and we're
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: hearing all these different witnesses come to the stand. You
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: heard Bulls what he had to say. You heard Terrell Davis,
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: We've heard certain We've heard from a different different folks.
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: I mean, what is our judgment what's the problem with
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: the Broncos, right gate a better back. Okay, that's our
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: conclusion where we're coming together as a jury. Now we're
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: voting on this. Do we have a verdict?
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I find it hard to believe that a Broncos offensive
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: line comprised of those players and the kind of investment
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: they've put into that offensive line from one side to
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: the other. They've spent a lot of money on those
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: big uglies in the trenches. Like I find it hard
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: to believe that they're very good at pass blocking, but
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: run blocking they just can't seem to do.
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: Crap.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: I find that hard to believe that you're investing that
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: kind of money in your tackles and your guards and
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: your center and you don't think they can run block.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: If RJ. Harvey's in Indianapolis, does you run for fifteen
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: hundred yards?
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: Well, no, tailor no, because Taylor's is final.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: If Jonathan Taylor's here, do you have a good run game?
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: If you switch around r J.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Harvey and Jamier Gibbs, Yeah, does Jamier Gibbs have a
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: you have a good run game?
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: B Jon Robinson, Yeah that's your ants yea.
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: But yeah, how do you get me a B seon.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: No, it's difficult. You're gonna have to trade up this year.
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: If you're gonna go do it, Hey, don't use your
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: first Trump pick on a dB that you don't use
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: too often. Maybe I don't know, I don't I don't
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: have the answer.
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: Well, again, I don't know what.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Maybe they didn't see.
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: A running back that made that kind of a difference though.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know what Ashton genty is going to become.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know what Amrio, Amari and Hampton is going
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: to become. Eventually, he got injured this year too and
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: then came back. I don't know what they'll become.
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: I have no idea. I guess Tom, you know it's
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: a good point.
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: Ashton genty' is a hell of a running back.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: He didn't do much, No, I mean, he he ran
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: for nine to seventy five and today's dan ain't that?
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: Ain't that?
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: Ain't he didn't do anything?
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: That doesn't that sort of crater your argument there?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Well, it depends, like maybe Ashton Gent's nasaca as we thought.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Trent Richardson was the second overall pick in his draft
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and he was out of the league three years.
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: Later he was a stud.
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: He was pretty special.
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Trent Richardson, though he is a big man.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: There's a combo. You have to have a decent offensive
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: line too. Do you think the the offensive line is
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: at least decent? Yeah, or at least decent.
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: Well, it's again, it's rated is one of the top
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: offensive lines in football, exactly right, different ratings for run
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: game in pass game.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, but do you think Sean Payton and George Peyton
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: are going to invest millions and millions and millions and
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: millions of dollars in that offensive line if they.
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: Don't think that they can run? Come on, man, I
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: don't make many guarantees. I don't make many guarantees. I
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: guarantee you that the Denver Broncos, either via free agency,
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: they're gonna have some money now to spend. They've got
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: that Russell Wilson money. Either via free agency or the draft,
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: they will invest in a running back. Okay, and it's
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: not just JK. Dobbins. He could come back, he sure could.
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: He could.
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: But it's going to be another one. It will be
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: another running back to the mix.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I just think we get confused on like was the
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: running game good or not it was good like JK.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Dobbins was on pace before he got hurt for a
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: twelve hundred yard season that would have put him top
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: top nine in the league. The names surrounding Hi would
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: have been McCaffrey, Gibbs, Tyrone Williams, like that's a good
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: running game, but he got hurt and he seemed to
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: be your only decent back uh three oh three, five
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: oh four oh nine two five get back the Nuggets
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: their loss from last night along with the double Dipperoox
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: next
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Double dipple Deroo