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Episode 17: Servant-Leadership · Coaching For Life

• 0:09
  SPEAKER_01: The Coaching for Life Podcast with Monty Williams and Will Davis.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Coaching for Life Podcast with Monty Williams and Will Davis, a conversation that we pray encourages you to pursue the Christ Center Life.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it's always a great day to spend some time with my good friend and co-host, Monty Williams.
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  SPEAKER_00: And today, Monty, we're talking about leadership and specifically servant leadership.
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  SPEAKER_00: We see many examples in Scripture of servant leaders and none greater than Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as followers of Christ, we are to imitate him.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you think about a servant leader, it's someone who never seeks to impose their authority or power over others, but someone who seeks to serve first.
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  SPEAKER_00: And other than the cross, which was Christ's greatest display of servant leadership, we also see in John 13 when Jesus washed his disciples' feet.
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  SPEAKER_00: You think about this scene as the disciples came into this house and they don't make a move to wash each other's feet.
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  SPEAKER_00: They saw it as the work of a servant, but no house servant was there to welcome them.
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  SPEAKER_00: No one is there to wash the street grime from their feet.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're all proud, too proud to do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we can imagine them sitting around, maybe still debating on who among them was the greatest.
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  SPEAKER_00: And perhaps during a lull in the conversation, they hear the sound of water being poured into a basin.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the disciples look up and they see, to their shock, the master is there with the towel of a servant wrapped around his waist, and he goes one by one to each of them and he starts cleaning their filthy feet.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is such an amazing example, but I know you also have a not so great example of servant leadership.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean it before I get into that, I think it's so easy when you're around someone of stature to get caught up.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, I think that's just a a natural tendency of our flesh.
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  SPEAKER_02: It may be human nature, it may just be um something that we all deal with.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um whether it's a pastor that we've all looked up to for years, it's there's there's a tendency to want to be in that position.
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  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes you may use the idea of service so that you can get what they have and not have the right heart about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And when we look at Mark 10, um, the main characters here are James, John, and Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_02: And in verse 35, uh, James and John, they they have uh a request of the Lord.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they they wanted in verse 37, it says they wanted um this glorious position at the right and left sides of Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um the problem is they wanted it for themselves and they didn't really think about their other spiritual brothers in the process, which caused a problem later on.
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  SPEAKER_02: And in verse 38, Jesus gives them a divine perspective.
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  SPEAKER_02: He says in verse 38, but Jesus said to them, You do not know what you are asking.
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  SPEAKER_02: Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, or to be baptized with the baptism with which I am baptized?
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  SPEAKER_02: In verse 39, we see these eager beavers say, We are able, not knowing, not counting the cost of their request.
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  SPEAKER_02: And in Mark 1039, um, we see a bunch of mad disciples because they were left out of this request.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Jesus gathers the group in verse 42 and he tells them, Don't be like the Gentiles who look for opportunities to Lord over others with their positions of supposed power.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like that's what we talked about.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I can imagine, you know, myself being like that, you know, being around Jesus and seeing him, you know, in my eyes, perform, you know, and and the crowds around him.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's just he's just doing what only he can.
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  SPEAKER_02: But that's that can be intoxicating.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, I I remember as a coach, you know, being in certain positions around Greg Popovich, uh, Coach K, Nate McMillan, and having to, you know, hopefully catch myself and say, that's that's not me, that's not for me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, but it is intoxicating.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh when you see people who do what you do and they've had a great deal of success, you're like, I want that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And God is calling us to serve in the positions that we have, and he'll provide, you know, all that we need, and and a lot of times more than we deserve.
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  SPEAKER_02: And in in verses 43, 45, we see this mic drop moment.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh for me, is is how when I read it again, I saw it as a mic drop.
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  SPEAKER_02: Jesus says, But it is not this way among you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Rather, whoever wants to become prominent among you shall be your servant.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then he goes on to say, For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.
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  SPEAKER_02: It reminds me of Matthew 23, 12.
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  SPEAKER_02: It says, Whoever exalts himself shall be humbled, and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's like I've been there, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've I've got the t-shirts, I got the vest, I got the sport coat, I got the parker, I got the hat for that one.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh you and I have gotten to know uh Max Lucato.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, you've probably known him longer than I have, and we, you know, we've read his books, and he has a new book out called Unbreakable Courage.
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  SPEAKER_02: And one of the quotes from another gentleman, uh Charles Atchley, I think is his name, um, it says, if you're too big to do the small things, you're too small to do anything big.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's what I don't think, I know that's what God calls us to do is uh lock in, commit to these seemingly small things, lock into service, because service is not something that is glorified in our society.
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  SPEAKER_02: Everything is power, power, power, and have people serve you, serve me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Jesus is like, no, the greatest among you is a servant.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's Mother Teresa.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's the people at the San Antonio Food Bank, it's you know, EMTs, it's the the nurses at our local hospitals that are just knocking it out of the park by just taking a cup and lifting the straw up so someone can drink.
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  SPEAKER_02: What an act of service.
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  SPEAKER_02: No one sees it, no camera, and Jesus says, You're great.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it just it it changes, you know, the way you think about your life, your job.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm I'm coaching high school now, and I, you know, I can't eat the kids, so I I gotta serve them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Some days I want to just boy, what'd you you know?
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  SPEAKER_02: But Jesus has, God has put me, us in these positions where we can serve people.
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  SPEAKER_02: And one of the coolest things that I've seen is serving someone that can't do anything for you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um it's amazing how internally gratifying that is.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like God has this chip in us that makes us feel something we can't feel any other way when we serve that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's such a counter-cultural thought.
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  SPEAKER_00: The last shall be first.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it goes against any everything that the our society stands for.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Jesus said in Matthew 20, similar to the Mark 10 passage, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant.
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  SPEAKER_00: And whoever wants to be first must be your slave.
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  SPEAKER_00: And sadly, when we think of that word slave in our culture and in our social structure, that word bears such horrifying connotations as as we grieve over one of the saddest chapters in our nation's history.
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  SPEAKER_00: But as believers in Christ, we are servants or bond slaves of the Lord Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we take on that mentality and that mindset, we can look to redeem that word and selflessly serve Christ and put the interests of others above and uh and beyond our own needs.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we see this so prominently in Paul's letter to the Philippians and Philippians chapter two, one of these anchor passages for the both of us, where Paul writes to the Philippians, Do nothing from selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider one another as more important than yourselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Paul then goes on to say that Jesus emptied himself, taking on the form of a servant.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that phrase emptied himself is the Greek word conosis, and this is the famous conosis passage that has been greatly debated as we think about how did Jesus empty himself.
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  SPEAKER_00: He didn't empty himself of of his glory, he didn't subtract anything from his deity as God, but rather by addition, he assumed and took on our frail humanity.
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  SPEAKER_00: He never ceased being God, but he humiliated himself by taking on the form of a servant.
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  SPEAKER_00: God took on flesh in the person of Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was sinless.
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  SPEAKER_00: He is the perfect God man, and he took on human nature in order to take away our sin.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we can't get over what an unbelievable display of sacrifice that was.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we spend the rest of our lives thanking him and worshiping him for this free gift of salvation that we have in him.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jesus is the epitome of a servant leader that we are to emulate, but I know we have all kinds of different examples of selfless service, and I know that you have experienced this in your own family.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this this one will bother you and everyone that lives in your home being a Texas AM.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what we call you guys, because it's, you know, you're I wouldn't say disciples, but then I thought I think to myself, yeah, that's that's what they are.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: I I it's funny because when you come back to Texas, you just think you're gonna see um UT people everywhere.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_02: And you you you do, but I have to admit, I and maybe because I'm connected to Baylor and I'm connected to you guys, I just see AM and Baylor people everywhere.
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  SPEAKER_02: I meet them all the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um but this particular instance um reminds me of the culture of joy uh that is the foundation for the Baylor basketball program.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it resonates throughout the campus, I think, because Coach Drew is um so beloved there.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's an acronym, uh Jesus Others You.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's such a way to look at service.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um when you think about basketball, you think about hard work, you think about uh discipline, sacrifice, uh putting the work in, you think about lifting weights, you think about play calls, X's and O's.
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  SPEAKER_02: But the foundation for this particular program is is joy.
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  SPEAKER_02: And coach is well known for his his faith, and you don't know you could read his book and you get it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I got it in a different way when they started to recruit Elijah, and we were there for a couple of days on his his first visit there.
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  SPEAKER_02: And as soon as, you know, when you're around Coach Drew, you're just like, Yeah, this dude is different.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like it just it comes off of him.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he serves in that way.
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  SPEAKER_02: He serves by putting Jesus first and then others and then himself.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it it had such an impression on me as a dad.
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  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, when your kid is playing basketball, you want him to be in a good program that's going to allow for him to play and and and progress and all of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: But as a father, I wanted him to be around that kind of man that would serve him, serve his heart, and and emulate it on a daily basis, and not try to take the place of the Lord in Elijah's life.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like Coach Drew is always pointing these kids to the Lord.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he takes a group of players to church pretty much every weekend, and it's an act of service that's it's contagious.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's something that I look up to.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because I don't look up to it in a way where I envy him in a bad way.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just I'm thinking like that's what I need to do more of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: I need to live this out the way that he does.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so the culture of joy um has had a huge impact on me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then the word joy has had an impact on me for a long, long time because my daughter, Lael, um, her middle name is Joy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Lael comes from Numbers 324, and it means of God or belonging to God.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the story behind that is so, so stinking cool because it goes back to what you taught on recently in 1 Samuel, because I prayed that prayer.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, we were having trouble, in my eyes, having a child, and um I prayed that prayer that Hannah uh seemingly prayed so that she could have her first child.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we had Lael, and we named her Lael Joy.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just telling you that to see someone, um, your own kid, live out their name.
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  SPEAKER_02: She is the most joyful, exuberant, beautiful kid, young lady.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I I just I've never met anybody like her.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, she can talk to a rock.
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  SPEAKER_02: She's she can she walks into a room and everybody's like, there's Lael.
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  SPEAKER_02: And she just it comes off of her.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I know, I believe that that is something that God gave her.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um it's not just seeing the positive, it's having this heart set and this countenance about you no matter what's going on.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: And she's she typifies that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm I'm as you can see, I'm proud that my kid, uh, my daughter, um, someone who's special to me and and to our family, has has that kind of uh reputation, but it's really who she is.
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  SPEAKER_02: She's someone that has joy that just comes off of her on a daily basis.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, that's beautiful when when that happens.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: You you name your child and they live up to that name as you just said, Lael Joy, and and we have that in common with with our daughter, Katherine Joy, Kate, and and the same kind of thing, you know, when these when these ladies, whether it's Lael or Kate, they walk into a room and and their smile brightens up uh the whole room, and it's a contagious joy.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that example from uh Coach Drew and and the Baylor basketball team joy, Jesus others you.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: And that would be a great blessing if we could have Coach Drew some time on this pod.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just putting it out there.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'll send I'll send this to him when we get done.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ben get on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when you think about that example of Jesus again from John 13, he's washing these twenty-four dirty, stinky feet of the twelve disciples.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's washing those who were closest to him, his inner circle of Peter and John, but he's also washing the feet of those who were about to betray him.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, the feet of Judas Iscariot.
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  SPEAKER_00: And after Jesus was done, he said, Do you know what I've done for you?
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: You call me teacher and Lord, and you are correct, for so I am.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: But it's interesting that Jesus doesn't say, Now you wash my feet.
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  SPEAKER_00: He says in John 13, 15, for I gave you an example so that you also would do just as I did for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Basically, now follow my example.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now you go and say to your brother or your sister, I'm your servant for Jesus' sake.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's amazing how we see so many forgotten, behind the scenes servants that were so valuable to the work of the ministry in the New Testament.
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  SPEAKER_00: Trevor Burrus, Jr.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there are people that don't get enough attention.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's those who've had amazing ministries of encouragement and support, like Barnabas.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: We just we don't talk about Barnabas enough.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um at the end of Romans, Paul mentions a long list of unsung heroes like Rufus and Gaius and Erastus.
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  SPEAKER_02: In First Corinthians, we see Priscilla and Achilla, um, co-laborers and partners in ministry with Paul.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um at the end of Ephesians, we see this dude, Tychicus.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: And Tychicus was he was used in ways that were just amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: He would go fill in for Titus and Timothy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um Paphroditus is mentioned at the end of Philippians, Elinus and Claudia are mentioned at the end of 2 Timothy, Aristarchus at the end of Philemon.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then there's those who are pretty popular.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, John, we see Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, this is the greatest example of service that we're ever going to see and could ever talk about.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's it's so cool because he does it, and as you just talked about, he does it for all of the disciples, he does it for one who's about to betray him, and he doesn't look for anything in return.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like that was the thing that's so impactful to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like I know in my life, and probably more recent than I want to admit, I've done things looking for something.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've done something looking for God to fulfill not a need, but a desire.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And here we see this example of our Lord and Savior doing it out of love.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Doesn't want anything back, and he does it for all of them, you know, even the one that was going to betray him.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: In Exodus, we see uh Moses leading Israel uh through the the desert.
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  SPEAKER_02: And Nehemiah, uh Nehemiah too, we see, you know, building a wall.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like we just think of building a wall, like that was a tough, tough job.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, tons of opposition on inside and outside, you know, those acts of service um speak to my heart because when we're doing the work of God, it's not always going to be easy and there's going to be challenges.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you may not get what you want out of it in terms of something outside of your need.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I know that I've done things in my career where I I had this hope that it would turn into X or Y.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I know that God calls me to do it just to be faithful.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And to be an example to my kids, or someone that I don't even know that's at that particular job that's watching, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's going to bear fruit that I can't spend, or I can't build my house off of that, or I can't make my portfolio bigger.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's it's going to bear fruit that's going to um show itself in eternity.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's greater than any need or fleshly desire that I can conjure up in my own mind.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we there's tons of examples that we've we've studied and but none greater than the one you just talked about.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like Jesus, his example of service and doing something that quite frankly, if you did it today, people would look at you like you're nuts.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and we actually have a Christmas Um, I wouldn't call it a tradition, but I guess it is.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like we we actually, before we open up our gifts, we pull this particular uh chapter out and I read, and you know, I wash my family's feet.
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  SPEAKER_02: And my boys have gotten used to early on, they were just like, you know, and we've had new members of our family.
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  SPEAKER_02: And as I can remember the first time my stepson Caden was with us for Christmas and I washed his feet.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I know that was like weird for him, but it was it was just our family's way of saying I love you.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we can't say it in the way that the Lord does, because he he gave his best for us, but it was our way.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_02: Before we open up these material gifts, we want to give the gift of love and service.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um so you can tell it's had a huge impact on our family.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, I I think that's a wonderful tradition on Christmas.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you think about service we we serve not to be seen.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as you're talking, it made me think of years ago uh during a worship service.
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  SPEAKER_00: I called Kara up on the platform and and without her knowing, and and any other time she she wouldn't have, you know, enjoyed that, just being surprised in that way.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: But I think it was her birthday, and I washed her feet in front of the congregation.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, it wasn't about being seen and and and look at look at us or look at me in any way, but just to show that example, because then I stepped off the platform and said, I don't want you to leave here thinking anything more of us, but now I want you to go and wash the feet of others.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, you wash the feet of your spouse and your kids and and other brothers and sisters.
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  SPEAKER_00: And in the church, you know, I never want the church to be focused on any one person or any personality.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not about a cult of personality.
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  SPEAKER_00: I never want my name to be on a church marquee sign or my face on a digital billboard, because I think that can take the attention off of Christ and put it on man.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: When I think about a servant leader, it's one who exemplifies the humility of Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of course, we can't be perfect like him in that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: We will struggle with pride.
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  SPEAKER_00: But as Paul exhorted the Philippians, he said, Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility, consider one another as more important than yourselves.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I think in terms of you know uh practical words of application, you know, if if anyone's listening and they're struggling in their marriage, I would encourage you to follow that example.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, wash wash the feet of your spouse tonight.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, show humility.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, tell them you know, ask them, will you forgive me for the ways I've hurt you?
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: And see what God does.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think that would be a wonderful step of of application.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: Anything else that we can encourage the listener end just in terms of that that application, you know, I think memorizing Philippians 2, yeah.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that would be a great thing.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I I think is what you just said, like see what God does.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's I think we live, I I can speak for myself and and to a degree where we are in society.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like we don't trust God the way that we need to.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like we we have this culture, if you will, where we don't think that the word is enough.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we want to add to it, we want to gimmick it, we want to doll it up.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and the word is enough.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we we got a chance to go to uh Grace Community Church um about a week and a half ago where John MacArthur used to pastor, and I it was such a cool experience for my boys to be in that environment because it's so similar to where we are um here, but that is a place that you and I know they trust the word of God.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's not that different types of music are bad or different types of dress are bad.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_02: We don't want to be legalist, but when it comes to the word, trust it and see what God does.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: When it comes to this act of service and and what you just talked about, like humbling myself, telling my wife whatever I need to tell her so that I can be right with her, but mostly so I can be right with the Lord and see what he does.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like trust him.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_02: And it's a I can make that guarantee, like he will not let you down.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: It could be something that feels really good, yeah, or it could be something that you need, but he will not let you down.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_02: And if I can encourage any listener from my own shame, it's when I've tried to do it my way, because I didn't wait to see what he was going to do.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: I tried to manipulate, um, I tried to manufacture an outcome as opposed to just simply obeying what the word says, you know, to serve, to love, to lay down my life for my wife and my family, to wash Lisa with the water of the word without looking for some microwave outcome that's gonna tickle my flesh.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: Just do it and see what the Lord does.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_02: And it could be immediate, it could be 10 years from now.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_02: But he's he's faithful and he's always gonna do what's best for us.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: So that would be my encouragement to anybody who's listening.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like, trust the Lord, trust his word, and see what he does.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a great word of application, you know, outserve one another, not for what you might get in return.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's not, you know, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours, but serve the other person like Christ humbly serves us.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so as as we close, let me pray that that God would fill us and the listener with with more of the humility of Christ as we seek to serve one another.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Let's pray.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: Lord, we need more of you in our lives, we need your humility.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: Would we become less, and would you become more as you are exalted in our hearts and in our lives?
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_00: And help us to grow as servant leaders.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: We still have a long way to go.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: We thank you for your example by which you humbled yourself by becoming obedient to the point of death on the cross for us.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: And Lord, we do thank you for the many unsung heroes of the faith, whether they be in Scripture or in our own lives, those that may not be in the spotlight, but they inspire us by their example.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: We think of uh those like Ben, who's uh producing this podcast.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, Lord, we think of other dear servants in our church like Linda and Brian, Casey, Griff, Dana, Colin, Jenny, Tyler, Jody, so many others that we could list and give thanks for.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: And we thank you for these dear servants who who remind us of you.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: Lord, we also want to give thanks uh for Lisa and Kara, our wives, uh those who may not share the sideline or the platform with us, but our ministries would not be possible uh without their support and their prayers and their love.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: So we thank you for them, we praise you for them today, and we do so in the name of Jesus.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you for spending time with us today.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: And remember, whatever it is that you're facing, know that God loves you, He's for you, He's got a good plan for you, and we'll see you next time.
• 30:57
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• 31:00
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