Latest / Patriots Unfiltered / Pats From the Past, Episode 52: Bill Parcells
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- 0:07Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode fifty two of Past from
- 0:11Speaker 1: the Paths from the Past, and we have probably one
- 0:15Speaker 1: of the most distinguished guests we've ever had. He's here
- 0:19Speaker 1: today because he's being inducted into the Patriots.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.
- 0:23Speaker 1: It's the one and only Bill Parcells and coach. It's
- 0:27Speaker 1: just a treat to see you again.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Thank you very much, and it's good to be back here. Yeah,
- 0:31Speaker 3: in New England and obviously very humbled by the honor.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Yeah, let me let me move this a little closer. Right, Yes,
- 0:40Speaker 1: I have you been back. When's the last time you
- 0:43Speaker 1: were here?
- 0:44Speaker 3: Well, I was here with the Dallas Cowboys playing against right, Okay, yeah, yeah,
- 0:49Speaker 3: I've been here just a couple of times to play.
- 0:52Speaker 3: But no, I haven't been.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Back because I remember, you know, when the border war
- 0:57Speaker 1: ended and you did that phone call with the New
- 1:00Speaker 1: England media and you said, yeah, you know, I'd love
- 1:02Speaker 1: to come up sometime and just see a game.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Still wait, I love, We'd love to have you anytime
- 1:08Speaker 2: you want.
- 1:08Speaker 3: You know. You know, So I'm in Florida in the
- 1:12Speaker 3: winter late season and in the winter, and uh, I'm
- 1:17Speaker 3: racing horses in the summer. Most of the time. Yeah,
- 1:20Speaker 3: but I do like it here, and I feel good
- 1:23Speaker 3: enough to come back and see what's going on.
- 1:26Speaker 2: That'd be great. That great. I know that.
- 1:27Speaker 1: I know everyone would treat you, you know, like a
- 1:31Speaker 1: king if you came back. I can tell you. You know,
- 1:33Speaker 1: I know Julian Edelman's going in today, but I.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Think Fred and I both believe that this is Bill
- 1:37Speaker 4: Parcell's dad.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. And Matt Smith is here too.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Matt is our executive.
- 1:45Speaker 4: You don't you would never remember this, which I wouldn't.
- 1:47Speaker 3: I wouldn't blame you.
- 1:48Speaker 4: But wait, back when in ninety five, when you were
- 1:52Speaker 4: doing the TV show, I was doing the TV show,
- 1:55Speaker 4: Mike Lynch.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Mike Clinch, Yeah, you remember that. I got it.
- 1:58Speaker 4: Yeah, Coach, you'd wont two super Bowls.
- 2:03Speaker 3: You had some health concerns. I think people scratch your heads.
- 2:07Speaker 3: Why did you come back?
- 2:08Speaker 4: What was it about coming back that you wanted to
- 2:10Speaker 4: come back and white here?
- 2:11Speaker 2: Well?
- 2:12Speaker 3: I just loved the profession. And you know, it's if
- 2:17Speaker 3: you see yourself as something, which is what I do
- 2:20Speaker 3: and it's all I ever did. And you know, those
- 2:26Speaker 3: health concerns completely disappeared, and I said why not? And
- 2:31Speaker 3: so I still enjoy it and that's how I want
- 2:34Speaker 3: to do and so I did it.
- 2:35Speaker 2: But you were picky.
- 2:37Speaker 1: How did James Orthwine convince you to come to the
- 2:40Speaker 1: Patriots because you probably had options.
- 2:42Speaker 2: I'm sure I.
- 2:43Speaker 3: Did have two options. I remember mister Orthwine wasn't the
- 2:49Speaker 3: one that really talked me into it. I can't remember
- 2:53Speaker 3: the name of the fella that came down. I was
- 2:56Speaker 3: in Florida. They flew down and we talked down there.
- 3:00Speaker 3: The then general manager was Patrick Forte. Yeah, he came
- 3:03Speaker 3: on the plane playing with us. We talked back and forth,
- 3:07Speaker 3: got a few things straight and I said, I'll let
- 3:09Speaker 3: you know tomorrow. And I knew I was going to
- 3:12Speaker 3: do it, I think, and so we got back to it.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:16Speaker 1: So Mickey Corkran was your high school coach, and I
- 3:20Speaker 1: know he was an environmentor to you for a long time.
- 3:23Speaker 2: Did you talk to him before you came here.
- 3:26Speaker 3: Yeah, but he you know, he's a coach at heart.
- 3:30Speaker 3: He wants to see his boy coaching, right, so because
- 3:33Speaker 3: that gives him something to do on Sunday. So he
- 3:37Speaker 3: was all for it. You know, I always liked this area.
- 3:42Speaker 3: I live very close to here now and it's been
- 3:46Speaker 3: it's been fun. I've always liked to hear and it's
- 3:49Speaker 3: a special place for me.
- 3:50Speaker 4: So when the when the when the draft was coming
- 3:53Speaker 4: around to coach Parcels, you know, I think the alleged prognosticators,
- 3:57Speaker 4: it's bled Somyer bleds Omayra.
- 4:00Speaker 3: Is that a tough decision for you at the time?
- 4:01Speaker 3: Not for me. I had a little contention with the
- 4:08Speaker 3: personnel director at the time, named Charlie Army. He was
- 4:12Speaker 3: he felt like Meyer was a safer pick. But I
- 4:16Speaker 3: watched every pass that Drew blessed so through on film
- 4:21Speaker 3: for two years. I watched every pass he threw, and
- 4:25Speaker 3: when I was done with that reel, I was convinced
- 4:28Speaker 3: that's who I wanted.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it about that reel that?
- 4:32Speaker 3: Well, he's a big, strong guy, six' five or, six
- 4:34Speaker 3: whatever it, is and he had a good. Arm they
- 4:37Speaker 3: were playing in a passing offense At Washington, state and
- 4:42Speaker 3: he had a lot of experience in the passing, game
- 4:44Speaker 3: and you, know you never know when you. Pick you
- 4:48Speaker 3: don't know to ever know exactly what you're. Getting, yeah
- 4:51Speaker 3: BUT i thought there was a good chance to be.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Successful he did a good.
- 4:55Speaker 4: Job he sure did the end of the ninety three,
- 4:58Speaker 4: Season coach, parcels when you ran off those wins at the,
- 5:01Speaker 4: END i think a lot of people here remember The
- 5:03Speaker 4: miami game here at the end Of. December he hits
- 5:05Speaker 4: A temptson down the sideline with that long pass at
- 5:09Speaker 4: that point in. TIME i know it doesn't necessarily carry,
- 5:11Speaker 4: over but did you were you think of?
- 5:13Speaker 3: Yourself you know what we might be onto something? Here you?
- 5:16Speaker 3: KNOW I i was fairly confident in, team even though
- 5:22Speaker 3: the record wasn't showing that. YET i KNEW i had
- 5:28Speaker 3: enough good, players and we were getting them every year
- 5:33Speaker 3: more and. More SO i felt like if we could
- 5:36Speaker 3: just keep a good attitude and develop a good toughness
- 5:40Speaker 3: and general overall expecting to win kind of, thing that
- 5:46Speaker 3: we might have a shot and fair.
- 5:49Speaker 4: Enough one of my crosses to Beer coach is working
- 5:52Speaker 4: With Scott zolac. TODAY i Love, zoe But zoe tells
- 5:57Speaker 4: me SO i want to know what's accurate or what's not.
- 5:58Speaker 3: Accurate, Okay, well first of, all he's a slight. Exaggerator
- 6:05Speaker 3: this is WHERE i want to find out if he's
- 6:07Speaker 3: really exaggerating or. Not so the way he tells the story.
- 6:11Speaker 4: Is The minnesota game in ninety, four you guys are
- 6:14Speaker 4: down a, Bunch and he said that he went up
- 6:16Speaker 4: to you at halftime in the locker room and, said
- 6:17Speaker 4: you gotta let the kid call his own, plays AND
- 6:20Speaker 4: i think he tells it you looked at him and,
- 6:22Speaker 4: said you know, what you want to coach the team,
- 6:24Speaker 4: now and you turn on the hill and walked.
- 6:26Speaker 3: Away he then says that after you.
- 6:29Speaker 4: Meeting you And ray are talking about you know what's
- 6:31Speaker 4: going on the second, half that you, said all, right,
- 6:33Speaker 4: everybody here's the, Deal, drew you're calling your own, plays
- 6:36Speaker 4: and that you looked At zoe and, said good. Idea
- 6:38Speaker 4: now That's Zoe's in terms of it's pretty.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Close here's what. Happened but first of, ALL i had
- 6:46Speaker 3: a little visual prior to. Halftime we had been in
- 6:52Speaker 3: a two minute offense for six or seven, minutes SO
- 6:55Speaker 3: i had seen That minnesota was just playing one stand
- 7:00Speaker 3: defense against, it AND i didn't know whether they had anything.
- 7:04Speaker 3: Else so that's really WHY i agreed to do, it
- 7:08Speaker 3: BECAUSE i knew we could hurt that one standard defense
- 7:12Speaker 3: because we'd already heard it.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Before they, have, RIGHT i think they still play that same.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Defense BUT.
- 7:19Speaker 1: I want to go back to when you got. HERE
- 7:20Speaker 1: i know you coached here in eighty as a linebackers,
- 7:23Speaker 1: coach so you were familiar With Foxboro stadium and the.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Facilities but, really by the time you got here in ninety,
- 7:29Speaker 1: THREE i, mean it had even. Deteriorated more, like what
- 7:33Speaker 1: did you think about the facilities?
- 7:35Speaker 3: HERE i already knew about. It i've been, Here i'd seen,
- 7:38Speaker 3: IT i passed. IT i that you, know it doesn't
- 7:45Speaker 3: make any difference what the facilities look like if you
- 7:48Speaker 3: got good players.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Sitting in the meetings and that. Shit, yeah so we
- 7:52Speaker 2: had a.
- 7:53Speaker 1: Chance, well speaking of good, players WHEN i say the
- 7:56Speaker 1: phrase circle the, wagon, guys who comes to mind on The? Patriots,
- 8:03Speaker 1: Well Vincent brown.
- 8:07Speaker 3: Timp?
- 8:07Speaker 5: It, Yeah Ben, Coates, Yeah turner And gash sure, yeah hold,
- 8:16Speaker 5: on hold, On Maurice. Hurst, okay let me think of somebody.
- 8:28Speaker 3: Else.
- 8:30Speaker 2: ARMSTRONG i was gonna, say what About bob Cratch, maybe.
- 8:33Speaker 3: YEAH i brought him here with. ME i know it.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Did yeah.
- 8:38Speaker 3: Not armstrong was. Good, no oh, Yeah i'll tell you
- 8:41Speaker 3: something about. Him in my second year here With Blood,
- 8:45Speaker 3: soap we threw over seven hundred. Passes he didn't give
- 8:49Speaker 3: up any. Sex, yeah, none. Zero that's pretty.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Good some of the battles he had With Bruce Smith
- 8:55Speaker 1: Buffalo Epic.
- 8:57Speaker 3: Epic that's.
- 8:58Speaker 4: Right, Yeah i'll throw a couple of the names towards your,
- 9:00Speaker 4: coach because those are the guys that when you drafted,
- 9:04Speaker 4: them those are the guys that were really core players
- 9:07Speaker 4: for Coach belichick's. Area we're talking about guys Like Teddy,
- 9:10Speaker 4: Bruski willie.
- 9:12Speaker 3: McGuinness you're talking about my, boys ted Ted, johnson Ty.
- 9:17Speaker 4: LAW i Know Adam, viniti Who fred AND i believe
- 9:21Speaker 4: should be here with you today going into The Patriots
- 9:24Speaker 4: hall Of.
- 9:24Speaker 3: Fame And, fred what's the little? Guy what's a little guy's.
- 9:27Speaker 4: Name that was drafted out of MARSH i know there's
- 9:29Speaker 4: a really famous wide receiver From.
- 9:31Speaker 3: MARY i think.
- 9:33Speaker 1: He's one of the smartest football Players i've ever, Heard
- 9:36Speaker 1: Troy Troy.
- 9:37Speaker 3: Football now you, well we got him at The. Patriots
- 9:40Speaker 3: i'm going to tell you a true. Story my Friend Jim,
- 9:42Speaker 3: donnan WHO i knew from, years was the head coach At.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Marshall this is right close to the end of the.
- 9:49Speaker 3: Draft it WAS i never heard of, him so he,
- 9:53Speaker 3: said he called. Me he, Said, BILL i got a
- 9:55Speaker 3: little returner down, here he, said he caught a hundred
- 9:58Speaker 3: balls for.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Us he, said you.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Might you might need to come down and look at,
- 10:02Speaker 3: HIM i, Said Bobby greer, DOWN i, Said, BOBBY i
- 10:06Speaker 3: want to know one. Thing can he be our punt
- 10:07Speaker 3: returner comes? Back he, SAID i think he. Can't we
- 10:11Speaker 3: drafted him in the last seven way.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Back, yeah, yeah, yeah, YEAH i mean now he was
- 10:19Speaker 1: back and forth.
- 10:20Speaker 3: Though, YEAH i, KNOW i know he was back and,
- 10:23Speaker 3: forth but he finally developed his own niche and became
- 10:28Speaker 3: a slot third receiver and, yeah, YEAH i loved.
- 10:32Speaker 2: It, Now LIKE i, said he had such a high FOOTBALL.
- 10:35Speaker 3: IQ i know he's. Good.
- 10:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:38Speaker 4: Yeah you were still in it at the, time so
- 10:40Speaker 4: you're dealing with your own team and everything like. That
- 10:43Speaker 4: were you able at the time to like take a
- 10:45Speaker 4: little look back and, go, wow look at What Troy
- 10:47Speaker 4: brown developed. Into look at What Teddy bruski.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Did you couldn't miss. Him he was all over the,
- 10:52Speaker 3: highlights all over the film ON, tv all the game film,
- 10:56Speaker 3: up still in. It i'm Watching source Of pride for, you.
- 10:59Speaker 3: Coach oh, yeah, yeah all of. Them and, McGinnis are
- 11:06Speaker 3: you kidding? ME i love McGinnis and there's just so
- 11:11Speaker 3: Many Curtis Curtis.
- 11:13Speaker 1: MARTIN i want to talk about him in the, second
- 11:16Speaker 1: BUT i remember that first TIME i met, you you
- 11:18Speaker 1: told me coaching is, teaching. Yep And i'll never forget that.
- 11:22Speaker 1: TIME i was At Bryant college and it was after.
- 11:25Speaker 1: Practice Ty law had just been, drafted and you were
- 11:29Speaker 1: working with him on the sideline because you noticed that
- 11:32Speaker 1: he was when he was one on one, deep he
- 11:35Speaker 1: was going up with this hand instead of the other,
- 11:37Speaker 1: hand and you showed him how if you go up
- 11:38Speaker 1: with the other, hand you gain at least a foot,
- 11:42Speaker 1: Wise AND i remember, that And i'm, like, yeah coaching is.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Teaching is, teaching.
- 11:48Speaker 3: YEP i liked him.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Too oh, yeah take a busload all Those and With
- 11:54Speaker 1: bruski when he got, here he was a pass, rusher
- 11:57Speaker 1: but you had to teach.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Him you got to because we're going to make you
- 12:01Speaker 2: more of a.
- 12:01Speaker 3: Linebacker, well when we drafted, him we didn't know what
- 12:05Speaker 3: we were going to do with, them but we knew
- 12:07Speaker 3: he could at least play special teams for, sure and
- 12:11Speaker 3: so we started with that, premise and then we worked
- 12:14Speaker 3: them into The nickels, defense and pretty soon he's playing
- 12:16Speaker 3: regular in the Nickel. Yeah now he's on, Television, LIKE
- 12:21Speaker 3: i KNOW i helped get him that.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Job he's a big, shot, Right oh?
- 12:24Speaker 4: Yeah uh in ninety, Six, bill was there a time
- 12:29Speaker 4: or a game in ninety six where you thought to, yourself.
- 12:34Speaker 3: We're gonna be.
- 12:35Speaker 4: OKAY i think we might be. Okay here we got something.
- 12:37Speaker 4: HERE i think we got a team that can. Contend
- 12:40Speaker 4: if you remember a moment or a game that said
- 12:42Speaker 4: that to you or was it a progression through the.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Year you, know that's a tough. QUESTION i can you,
- 12:50Speaker 3: KNOW i coast a lot of. GAMES i can't always
- 12:53Speaker 3: measure more sure together and think. Back but you, Know
- 12:59Speaker 3: buffalo had been in their heyday and we were starting
- 13:04Speaker 3: to get back control of, them AND i knew they
- 13:07Speaker 3: were a Super bowl. Contender SO i felt like once
- 13:11Speaker 3: we started having some success against, them that we won't
- 13:14Speaker 3: have a. Chance. NOW i want to tell you a
- 13:16Speaker 3: story On venetari. Too, okay we signed him for five hundred.
- 13:21Speaker 3: DOLLARS i always tease him about, that and you, KNOW i,
- 13:25Speaker 3: said how's? That how's that decision to send him with
- 13:28Speaker 3: The patriots working? OUT i just talked to him the other.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Day he's just. Called SO i think he tells the
- 13:33Speaker 3: story of like he's.
- 13:35Speaker 4: Nervous matt's, here, right your, guy he's the, incumbent and
- 13:40Speaker 4: he's so he's sitting, there what are my chances of?
- 13:42Speaker 3: Everything like?
- 13:42Speaker 4: That and he says that you told him one one preseason,
- 13:44Speaker 4: game you're Doing you're kicking this.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Game let's see how it. Cos and he made.
- 13:50Speaker 4: The, kicks had a good preseason, game and whenever it
- 13:52Speaker 4: was you made the, Decision, hey by the, way you're
- 13:54Speaker 4: gonna be our.
- 13:54Speaker 3: Kicker and he.
- 13:56Speaker 4: Was still is he, serious, like, Like i'm going to
- 14:00Speaker 4: be the kicker of this? Team and he was he
- 14:01Speaker 4: couldn't really believe.
- 14:02Speaker 3: It, well the reason he couldn't believe. It one of
- 14:05Speaker 3: the hardest things to do as a coach is to
- 14:09Speaker 3: give up a player who has been, productive clutch everything
- 14:15Speaker 3: you've ever, wanted but now he's just too old and
- 14:18Speaker 3: he can't do what he used to. Do and that
- 14:20Speaker 3: Was Matt. BARR i mean he kicked us into the
- 14:24Speaker 3: Super bowl with one, kid. Yep AND i Loved. MATT
- 14:28Speaker 3: i MEAN i, did And matt got, it he knew
- 14:32Speaker 3: AND i just, Said matt got to do we gotta try.
- 14:35Speaker 3: THIS i, said it doesn't, Work i'll bring you. Back.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Yeah that was.
- 14:38Speaker 3: It, yeah is that the hardest part of the.
- 14:40Speaker 4: Business coach parcels when you've got a guy like you just,
- 14:43Speaker 4: said this guy got you into the Super.
- 14:45Speaker 3: Bowl but you, know they're your. Guys you live in
- 14:48Speaker 3: them every day for eight, hours for half the, year
- 14:51Speaker 3: for ten. Years it's more than just coach. Player it's you,
- 14:56Speaker 3: know you know everything about. Him you know all the, issues, problem, family,
- 15:00Speaker 3: kids this, everything and you, know so it's hard to
- 15:05Speaker 3: give up on. Them and especially if you know they're still,
- 15:09Speaker 3: needy you, know if they still need the, money if
- 15:12Speaker 3: something's happened that they you, know they're not smart with
- 15:16Speaker 3: their investments and things like. That you it's. HARD i,
- 15:20Speaker 3: think you know, what you gotta be cold. Blooded the
- 15:23Speaker 3: training is rolling and you were on it or you're.
- 15:26Speaker 4: Off we were talking with Coach rabel this, week you,
- 15:30Speaker 4: know just he was wanted to talk about what great
- 15:34Speaker 4: what it was great that you're going in and That
- 15:36Speaker 4: julian's going. In and he said that you talked to
- 15:38Speaker 4: him in twenty. Eighteen he, said you took the time
- 15:41Speaker 4: to speak with him and he was just starting out At,
- 15:42Speaker 4: tennessee and he said he gave you some unbelievable advice
- 15:44Speaker 4: And the way he told it to me was. Unbelievable he,
- 15:47Speaker 4: said take these guys out to lunch if you. Can
- 15:50Speaker 4: if you've got a problem with the, guy get to
- 15:52Speaker 4: know him a little. Bit it's not just enough to
- 15:54Speaker 4: bring him into your office and do. Things you got
- 15:56Speaker 4: to get to know what makes these people. Tick and
- 15:59Speaker 4: he was, saying that's. IT i, said he'll never ever forget.
- 16:02Speaker 4: You that's very it's very nice of you to be
- 16:05Speaker 4: able to share like that with somebody in the.
- 16:07Speaker 3: Business, well you, KNOW i felt an. Obligation you're a.
- 16:11Speaker 3: COACH i had coaches help me WHEN i was, young
- 16:14Speaker 3: AND i made up my mind WHENEVER i had that
- 16:18Speaker 3: opportunity THAT i would follow. Through AND i have.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Absolutely you, know going back To, VINITARI i remember in,
- 16:26Speaker 1: practice you, know giving him the business when he was
- 16:31Speaker 1: trying to kick make, it you, know casting a shadow
- 16:34Speaker 1: over the ball or squirting it with water something like
- 16:37Speaker 1: that distract. Him oh, Yeah so what was that point
- 16:41Speaker 1: where you, said you know that not only where is
- 16:45Speaker 1: he going to be our, kicker but he could be
- 16:48Speaker 1: one of the.
- 16:49Speaker 2: Best, well.
- 16:51Speaker 3: You, know the first game we played was In buffalo
- 16:54Speaker 3: and it Was. September single Digits, september AND i remember
- 17:01Speaker 3: it was like sleeping up there In, september and so
- 17:05Speaker 3: the weather conditions were very bad and he missed a
- 17:08Speaker 3: couple of kicks in the.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Game, yeah so.
- 17:12Speaker 3: You, know everybody's looking at me, sideways including my own, coaching,
- 17:16Speaker 3: RIGHT i, say, hey you, know settle. Down we let him.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Kick the second, game HE i think he was one for.
- 17:23Speaker 3: Two you, know he missed another, one so it was getting.
- 17:26Speaker 3: Close the third game we had an over an overtime Game.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Jacksonville that's, it you got a good vite and we
- 17:35Speaker 3: had to kick to win the. Game AND i remember
- 17:39Speaker 3: thinking to, MYSELF i hope you make it sound because
- 17:42Speaker 3: if you, don't you're going to be on the. Bus
- 17:44Speaker 3: and he knew. THAT i, think, NO i think he
- 17:45Speaker 3: did tell him. That but, right, well not for long
- 17:48Speaker 3: is WHAT nfl stands.
- 17:49Speaker 4: For AND i think he certainly felt the heat after
- 17:52Speaker 4: The buffalo, game, like oh, no that's, right is this
- 17:55Speaker 4: what's going to? Happen and That jacksonville kick propelled not
- 17:58Speaker 4: saying that that's a, reason but on his, way that's.
- 18:01Speaker 3: Right it was a good impathus for.
- 18:03Speaker 1: It and.
- 18:06Speaker 3: Was he not a?
- 18:07Speaker 4: Kicker Coach PARCELS i remember another story that he always
- 18:10Speaker 4: used to tell us The walker tackle in The dallas,
- 18:13Speaker 4: game and he said That you pulled him aside after
- 18:15Speaker 4: that and, said, listen, well what did you tell?
- 18:18Speaker 3: Him, WELL i don't, know BUT i know he won
- 18:21Speaker 3: all his teammates respects right, there and all the. Coaches
- 18:26Speaker 3: so he was. In he was one us now because
- 18:29Speaker 3: of what he, did just that one. Play and you,
- 18:34Speaker 3: know not many kickers will do, That Herscha walker right. Right.
- 18:40Speaker 1: You you Mentioned Curtis martin, earlier AND i want to
- 18:43Speaker 1: talk about him a little.
- 18:44Speaker 2: Bit so Boy, wonder Boy.
- 18:45Speaker 1: Wonder AND i remember that first, year his rookie, year
- 18:48Speaker 1: he had that first good, game and you came through
- 18:50Speaker 1: the locker. Room you're, like, yeah one, Game wonder because everybody.
- 18:54Speaker 3: Was, everybody it was all around, them you, know, Right.
- 19:00Speaker 2: But he was he was something.
- 19:01Speaker 3: Else he was a special kid in my life.
- 19:04Speaker 2: On and off the.
- 19:04Speaker 3: Field you know where he came from and what he. Became,
- 19:09Speaker 3: yep that makes me, cry, sorry.
- 19:11Speaker 2: No, here go go for it because HE i mean
- 19:15Speaker 2: SO i.
- 19:15Speaker 3: Am always in close contact with. Him. Okay you know
- 19:19Speaker 3: there's a few, people a few. Players this is one
- 19:21Speaker 3: of the most gratifying things about this. Profession there are
- 19:25Speaker 3: a few players they call you On Father's, day and
- 19:28Speaker 3: he's one of.
- 19:29Speaker 6: Them.
- 19:29Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah i'll just tell you that means a. Lot
- 19:32Speaker 1: that's really he. Is he doesn't just talk to, Talk
- 19:36Speaker 1: he walks it and you, know like be on the
- 19:40Speaker 1: bus head buried in That, bible and you.
- 19:42Speaker 2: Know he was the real.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Deal AND i remember the story the. Rookies you, know
- 19:48Speaker 1: they would come and grab you out of your room
- 19:49Speaker 1: and cut your, hair and they went into his room
- 19:52Speaker 1: and he's studying His bible and they couldn't do it to.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Him like hands.
- 19:57Speaker 3: Off he's. Good he's doing very.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Well and then one of the first things you did
- 20:01Speaker 1: when you left The, jets which by the, Way i'm
- 20:03Speaker 1: still mad, about is uh.
- 20:06Speaker 3: Is you?
- 20:06Speaker 2: You you got him over there with?
- 20:08Speaker 6: You.
- 20:08Speaker 3: Yeah, YEAH i got to try to get good.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Players, yeah and he's one of The he's The hall Of,
- 20:13Speaker 2: famer no.
- 20:13Speaker 3: Question they changed the rules the poison.
- 20:17Speaker 2: PILL i, know, LISTEN i lived through it.
- 20:20Speaker 3: All they changed the rules yeah after that.
- 20:24Speaker 2: One oh, yeah but smart.
- 20:26Speaker 4: Business that ninety six fog game coach parcels against The,
- 20:30Speaker 4: steelers the division around in the, playoffs and the image
- 20:34Speaker 4: THAT i remember Is martin running away from. Everybody hard
- 20:37Speaker 4: to see him because of the. Fog Bledsoe's bletsoe's running
- 20:41Speaker 4: behind him with his finger up in the. AIR i
- 20:43Speaker 4: mean that was a special moment for people here In New.
- 20:45Speaker 3: England it was behind the. Team they didn't really.
- 20:48Speaker 4: Know here comes the Vaunted Pittsburgh steelers and you guys
- 20:52Speaker 4: thumped him that.
- 20:53Speaker 6: Day.
- 20:53Speaker 3: Yeah it wasn't even. Close, no it was. Good. Yeah
- 20:57Speaker 3: i'll tell you a very uh funny story that happened
- 21:01Speaker 3: in the. Game. Gosh Rod woodson was playing right corner
- 21:06Speaker 3: for The steelers left corners and this. Happened and so
- 21:12Speaker 3: we were on like a full mode attack in this
- 21:14Speaker 3: game and we hit a pass on him down the
- 21:19Speaker 3: field that was, contested and he had been smiling at,
- 21:25Speaker 3: me okay before the, play AND i said to. Him
- 21:32Speaker 3: he came back and he was flying up back. Again
- 21:35Speaker 3: it's not funny, now Rods. Am he, said, yeah it's still, funny,
- 21:39Speaker 3: coach it's still. Funny they would Beat Terry glenn beat
- 21:42Speaker 3: him to the four yard. Line, YEP i, said he came.
- 21:46Speaker 3: BACK i, said how about it, now it's still, Funny, Rod, no,
- 21:49Speaker 3: coach it's Fun.
- 21:51Speaker 1: SO i, mean you were known for being funny and
- 21:56Speaker 1: having those you, know.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Ways to get you to needle your. Guy where did
- 22:01Speaker 2: you get that? From is? That was that just? Natural or, yeah.
- 22:05Speaker 3: It's got to be. Yourself, yeah you, know and you
- 22:08Speaker 3: Know i'm. CONFRONTATIONAL i had a very confrontational, mother highly,
- 22:13Speaker 3: confrontation and So i've always been let's let's get it
- 22:18Speaker 3: out on the table and let's settle.
- 22:20Speaker 2: It now and where or? Not so you grew up that, way, yeah.
- 22:23Speaker 3: Exactly.
- 22:24Speaker 2: Yeah, now So.
- 22:25Speaker 4: Lock talks about, practice he said the needle was usually
- 22:29Speaker 4: out during stretch where that was the time to bust
- 22:32Speaker 4: balls at that point in, time and nobody was. Immune
- 22:35Speaker 4: somebody was a little heavy is weight you're gonna get
- 22:37Speaker 4: him with the, Weight you're gonna get him on all
- 22:39Speaker 4: kinds OF i have.
- 22:40Speaker 3: To get myself with.
- 22:41Speaker 4: That but he said that that was like he reveres
- 22:46Speaker 4: that time and thinks back at that time about that's
- 22:49Speaker 4: the special. Camaraderie that is what football is all.
- 22:52Speaker 3: About it is and you, know it's you can't explain
- 22:56Speaker 3: it to. People there's just something it's kind of like
- 23:00Speaker 3: a a like a. Magnet it just it keeps you.
- 23:07Speaker 3: Together it's just, yeah and the, man it's als fair.
- 23:12Speaker 3: Too it's if you're sensitive at all business, Right, no,
- 23:16Speaker 3: shot that's, right because the more they find out you're,
- 23:19Speaker 3: sensitive they make it, worse that's.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Right so, yeah, Yeah and it wasn't just the.
- 23:24Speaker 1: PLAYERS i, know media, guys the older guys and a
- 23:28Speaker 1: lot of them will be here. Today who revere you
- 23:31Speaker 1: because you had a way of handling a press conference
- 23:35Speaker 1: where you wouldn't get about any, information but you did
- 23:37Speaker 1: it in an entertaining way and so.
- 23:40Speaker 3: You, know we're supposed to collect, information not.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Extremes that was one of the first things you told
- 23:45Speaker 2: me as. Well and like you had this, way this charm.
- 23:51Speaker 1: About you that you could needle them and give them
- 23:53Speaker 1: a hard, time but they'd still be smiling when you were.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Not like they had good press corp here and experienced
- 24:00Speaker 3: you know. What the Late will McDonald was a close
- 24:02Speaker 3: friend of. Mine yeah you know. That you, Know borges
- 24:05Speaker 3: and Mad, yeah you know they were. All, YEAH i
- 24:08Speaker 3: knew him.
- 24:08Speaker 1: All and you know you had to respect MANN x
- 24:10Speaker 1: because he'd do his always and he'd give you an
- 24:13Speaker 1: f but he'd be in that locker room the next
- 24:15Speaker 1: day and if you had something to say.
- 24:17Speaker 3: Say he was always on my.
- 24:19Speaker 1: Case oh, yeah, yeah but you respected, HIM i.
- 24:22Speaker 3: Did.
- 24:23Speaker 2: Yeah is he?
- 24:24Speaker 3: COMING i don't, KNOW i don't.
- 24:26Speaker 2: KNOW i don't. Know he's down In. FLORIDA i know.
- 24:28Speaker 4: That. Yeah and my guess as you respected the people
- 24:31Speaker 4: that were there every, day like not just one off.
- 24:34Speaker 3: Guys you, know the guys that. Working, yeah they gotta. Work.
- 24:39Speaker 4: Yeah well we uh we're good.
- 24:42Speaker 3: Here, okay so you know what that. Means that usually
- 24:47Speaker 3: means it's about eight more.
- 24:48Speaker 4: Questions, yeah maybe what on that talked a little About
- 24:52Speaker 4: Vinitary Pro Football hall Of fame For Audam.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Vinitary do you believe so on roller? Skates?
- 24:59Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah should be in already.
- 25:02Speaker 3: On roller, skates yeah.
- 25:04Speaker 1: Yeah and then, uh our owner has been up a few.
- 25:09Speaker 2: Times tell me why you think you should get come? On, yeah,
- 25:15Speaker 2: yeah all is he's getting truss.
- 25:17Speaker 3: Me he's getting in.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Well sooner than you. Think, YEAH i, Hope SO i.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Hope so you don't have to. Hope, okay you said that's.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Happened you know some people are doing, those.
- 25:29Speaker 4: AND i think THAT i think this own is probably
- 25:31Speaker 4: pretty easy as well. Coached but one of your, proteges Coach,
- 25:34Speaker 4: belichick he's just to same set of roller skates That
- 25:38Speaker 4: vinitari's got he's going in on roller.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Skates yes he, is no. Doubt.
- 25:43Speaker 4: Yeah when when you got out of, it, coach and
- 25:47Speaker 4: you could look at some of the people that you
- 25:49Speaker 4: mentored or worked, with you, know guys Like bill you know,
- 25:52Speaker 4: today guys Like Sean, Payton Aaron glenn And New york
- 25:55Speaker 4: guys that you've, had do you is there a curiosity
- 25:59Speaker 4: and an interest that you want to see what these
- 26:00Speaker 4: guys now that's out of.
- 26:01Speaker 3: IT i pay close attention all the guys THAT i
- 26:04Speaker 3: worked with that are head, Coaches hot bowls And. Tampa you,
- 26:08Speaker 3: know it's just you Can't it's human. Nature you gotta
- 26:12Speaker 3: find out what they're. Doing you know they, say mama's
- 26:14Speaker 3: gotta know if that's. It, yeah you gotta.
- 26:17Speaker 2: Know, yeah it must be great to see them doing.
- 26:20Speaker 2: Well oh yeah.
- 26:21Speaker 3: It Is, Bill and you, KNOW i Know Al grove
- 26:23Speaker 3: is going to be here.
- 26:24Speaker 2: Today. Yep it's keep. Shoveling that's, right you got a.
- 26:29Speaker 3: Dig. Yeah he brought that shovel out there on the,
- 26:32Speaker 3: sideline stayed there all.
- 26:33Speaker 2: Year. Yeah, yeah, good that was.
- 26:35Speaker 3: Good.
- 26:35Speaker 2: Yeah mouse. TRAPPED i remember all the things that you.
- 26:38Speaker 2: Use you remember the? Mouse oh, yeah, sure, yeah.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Because he used to hang the mouse traps when you
- 26:43Speaker 1: know the media was talking about all this team is
- 26:47Speaker 1: not good and don't don't, listen don't don't take.
- 26:49Speaker 2: It don't take the, cheese.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Right that's, right don't take the. Cheese.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Yep, well, coach it's been it's been an. Honor it's
- 26:57Speaker 1: great to see you. Again BUT i hope it's not
- 26:59Speaker 1: the last time you come.
- 27:00Speaker 3: Back, Okay, WELL i want to say it's an honor
- 27:02Speaker 3: being here And i'm very humbled by the.
- 27:04Speaker 4: Award, YEAH i think IT'S i think you being, here.
- 27:08Speaker 4: COACH i think it's a very big deal for a
- 27:11Speaker 4: lot of fans In New. England you, know they welcomed you.
- 27:15Speaker 4: Back you're a big part of why this stadium is still.
- 27:18Speaker 3: Here you.
- 27:19Speaker 4: KNOW i think people look at the success that they've,
- 27:21Speaker 4: had you, know and it's been tremendous, success but people
- 27:24Speaker 4: like Yourself Bledsoe. Craft you, know you built the foundation
- 27:29Speaker 4: for football. Fans you, know you, guys you couldn't get
- 27:31Speaker 4: arrested in this. Area we're playing football until you guys came.
- 27:35Speaker 2: ALONG i was. Here you couldn't give tickets away and
- 27:37Speaker 2: now we have archery in the.
- 27:39Speaker 3: State that's.
- 27:39Speaker 4: RIGHT i use, that by the, way all the. Time
- 27:41Speaker 4: we sometimes call it canniball practice if it's a really bad.
- 27:44Speaker 1: Day, yeah people SAY i bought my season tickets the
- 27:46Speaker 1: day That Bill parcells was, hired because, good we had
- 27:50Speaker 1: a legitimate. Coach, Finally, yeah thank you very. Much, yeah thank,
- 27:55Speaker 1: you thank.
- 27:55Speaker 3: You.
- 27:56Speaker 2: Coach, yes.
- 28:01Speaker 1: All, right so we have a surprise guest, here the,
- 28:03Speaker 1: Owner Robert. Kraft so you heard somebody was in. Town
- 28:07Speaker 1: you decided to stop.
- 28:08Speaker 6: In, yeah, well, actually you you want to know. Something,
- 28:12Speaker 6: sure we almost were classmates in. College do you remember
- 28:17Speaker 6: is That?
- 28:17Speaker 3: Columbia?
- 28:18Speaker 6: Yeah, SEE i couldn't believe. It AND i played freshman football.
- 28:23Speaker 6: There we would have been on the same. Team oh,
- 28:27Speaker 6: wow in the world The Ivy league And Armie navy
- 28:32Speaker 6: had lightweight. TEAMS i switched to that much soft for,
- 28:36Speaker 6: media but. Freshman and you know, what the last Time
- 28:40Speaker 6: columbia won A Super, bowl this, Guy Bill, campbell was nineteen.
- 28:45Speaker 6: SIXTY i guess when we would have been soft would
- 28:49Speaker 6: have been.
- 28:50Speaker 3: THERE i knew the baseball coach was Named John wincoln
- 28:53Speaker 3: and he was the one that really was pushing me
- 28:56Speaker 3: to go. There AND i was going to play football,
- 28:59Speaker 3: Too but he who was the guy.
- 29:00Speaker 6: That, really can you imagine we would have been on
- 29:03Speaker 6: the same. FRESHURE i got a picture of the. Freshman
- 29:08Speaker 6: i'll show it to you IF i can get BECAUSE
- 29:10Speaker 6: i have another PICTURE i want to show.
- 29:12Speaker 3: You look good by the way it really looked. WELL
- 29:15Speaker 3: i got to go in the Next.
- 29:17Speaker 6: Friday them you are, no BUT i. Never so here's
- 29:24Speaker 6: the thing. THERE i was a fan with my sons
- 29:30Speaker 6: watching watching The, patriots and we had gone to the
- 29:34Speaker 6: games in the old, stadium and then we got the.
- 29:39Speaker 6: Stadium i'll never forget the last game Against. Miami, yeah
- 29:47Speaker 6: and the way we won that you won the last four,
- 29:51Speaker 6: games and.
- 29:54Speaker 3: That was in ninety. Three the FIRST i.
- 29:56Speaker 6: Went down the elevator, ESPECIALLY i Remember jonathan And danny
- 30:03Speaker 6: AND i, said you know, what we can't let this
- 30:07Speaker 6: team go To Saint.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Louis we got to do.
- 30:10Speaker 6: It so my bride said to, me what are you
- 30:17Speaker 6: going to pay for the? TEAM i, said the right
- 30:19Speaker 6: numbers won, ten But i'll probably.
- 30:23Speaker 3: Go to one fifteen to one. Twenty and then we
- 30:26Speaker 3: played one seventy.
- 30:27Speaker 6: Two but you being the anchor and Bled so the,
- 30:32Speaker 6: quarterback and that those last four, games it was just
- 30:37Speaker 6: an emotional.
- 30:38Speaker 3: THING i was going to pay WHATEVER i had to, pay,
- 30:40Speaker 3: GOTCHA i want to keep the.
- 30:42Speaker 6: Team, no but you were the. Inspiration thank you very.
- 30:46Speaker 6: Much you're very.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Kind but, no if we didn't have the, resources it
- 30:49Speaker 3: wouldn't have got. GOING i thank you for.
- 30:52Speaker 6: That, well think how you changed We we hadn't won
- 30:56Speaker 6: a playoff game in eight. Years we never, no, wait
- 31:01Speaker 6: we hadn't been to a.
- 31:03Speaker 3: Playoff we never won a home player.
- 31:06Speaker 6: Game never THINK i was thinking about that BECAUSE i
- 31:10Speaker 6: went to the.
- 31:11Speaker 3: Games the first thirty four.
- 31:13Speaker 6: Years the only home playoff game was against The Houston
- 31:18Speaker 6: oilists nineteen seventy. Eight Earl campbell ran for over one hundred.
- 31:23Speaker 6: Yards so think about. It in the thirty four years
- 31:27Speaker 6: before you, arrived they had never had more than they
- 31:32Speaker 6: never won a playoff.
- 31:34Speaker 3: Game, well it's amazing to see what this has. Become
- 31:38Speaker 3: and it's a tribute to you and all the players
- 31:42Speaker 3: and coaches.
- 31:42Speaker 6: And you know what it. Is, yeah well we're proud
- 31:45Speaker 6: to do you. Know, no but you know what you,
- 31:49Speaker 6: did and it never WAS i got well it might
- 31:54Speaker 6: have been, reciprocal but. No but when you think about,
- 32:00Speaker 6: it the impact that you, had because, No i'll just tell,
- 32:07Speaker 6: YOU i WENT i sat in all four Venues Fenroy, POTT,
- 32:11Speaker 6: bcbu and it Just hovid and it just you, know
- 32:22Speaker 6: those of us that loved. It you came and created
- 32:26Speaker 6: the culture and. Changed, no it's. TRUE i don't know
- 32:31Speaker 6: THAT i would have well and dumb enough to step.
- 32:35Speaker 1: UP i was going to, ask, like if it was
- 32:37Speaker 1: any other coach and they hadn't won those four games
- 32:40Speaker 1: coming down the, stretch is there a chance that you would,
- 32:44Speaker 1: say you know, what, No i'm not going to do,
- 32:46Speaker 1: this and they would have been In Saint.
- 32:48Speaker 6: LOUIS i have trouble remembering back five. Years, yeah sort
- 32:52Speaker 6: of go.
- 32:53Speaker 2: Back your memory is pretty good so.
- 32:55Speaker 6: Far ninety three it, WAS i Guess december ninety three.
- 33:00Speaker 6: THREE i just we had bought the stadium out of,
- 33:04Speaker 6: bankruptcy you, know and so we own the same so
- 33:08Speaker 6: we're in the, suite not sitting in the metal, benches
- 33:13Speaker 6: AND i just remember, that the way we won that
- 33:16Speaker 6: and the feeling WHEN i got.
- 33:18Speaker 3: It.
- 33:18Speaker 6: Yeah, no but you, Look you've had a lot of great,
- 33:22Speaker 6: well but you.
- 33:23Speaker 3: Know you remember.
- 33:24Speaker 6: Those i'm special THAT i try to get a golf,
- 33:27Speaker 6: game but he's always driving WHEN i don't go down
- 33:31Speaker 6: there till our season's. Over, yeah, NO i still go
- 33:37Speaker 6: yea to go To. Well we gotta we gotta get
- 33:40Speaker 6: a golf game in this. YEAR i can't play dead
- 33:43Speaker 6: in The western.
- 33:44Speaker 4: Movie your first game is The OWNER rkk In. MIAMI
- 33:52Speaker 4: i vividly recall this picture of this. Video it's pouring
- 33:56Speaker 4: rain before the. Game you're standing in the tunnel with
- 33:59Speaker 4: this guy And Don shultt trying to wait and see
- 34:01Speaker 4: before the game. Starts that wasn't a great result the.
- 34:06Speaker 3: First two, games.
- 34:09Speaker 4: But fians will remember bled sort of coach that was,
- 34:12Speaker 4: like that was. Unbelievable that Was marino De frar that
- 34:16Speaker 4: beat you that. Games so you had to see the
- 34:19Speaker 4: excitement that. First we were pissed probably that they.
- 34:21Speaker 3: Lost, well we scored over, THIRTY i. BELIEVE i remember
- 34:25Speaker 3: it was.
- 34:26Speaker 6: Exciting we had an offense, unfortunate But i'll tell you
- 34:30Speaker 6: in fairness to coaching or our, players because we just
- 34:35Speaker 6: were down there, again it's so, hot and for guys
- 34:40Speaker 6: who want used to training there wearing thirty forty pounds of.
- 34:44Speaker 6: EQUIPMENT i, mean they played a great. Game the same
- 34:47Speaker 6: thing happened In buffalo next week, Too but you know
- 34:52Speaker 6: what it, Was it was no you know what it
- 34:57Speaker 6: was so. Exciting and, UH i think for me. Too you,
- 35:02Speaker 6: know well we went to the.
- 35:04Speaker 3: Playoffs, no that's, good that's what we're supposed to, Do.
- 35:08Speaker 3: Chicago remember the last.
- 35:12Speaker 6: Game the worst part of that season was losing in
- 35:18Speaker 6: the playoffs to his former, PAL i, mean former.
- 35:23Speaker 2: COACHING i know.
- 35:24Speaker 3: We weren't quite ready. Though we had a chance at
- 35:28Speaker 3: the end of that, game and, uh, listen this is.
- 35:35Speaker 3: Vivid remember this, kid we Had Ray. Crittenden, yeah, okay
- 35:40Speaker 3: this game is. Close we get Really Sky Virginia, tech
- 35:45Speaker 3: and so we had a. Chance if we can make
- 35:48Speaker 3: one big, play we might beat. Him right, there a,
- 35:53Speaker 3: post Bro bruce throws a nice post him hits him
- 35:56Speaker 3: right in the shoulder pad and bounces. Off that would
- 36:00Speaker 3: have put us on about the ten yard.
- 36:01Speaker 2: Line, yeah game of.
- 36:04Speaker 6: Inches, no but what what a game and what a
- 36:10Speaker 6: career you?
- 36:11Speaker 3: Had no what you changed?
- 36:13Speaker 6: Everything here you were the icing on the top of the,
- 36:18Speaker 6: cave you, know the finished.
- 36:20Speaker 2: And it was important for you to Have.
- 36:26Speaker 3: Yeah, no oh yeah. No AND.
- 36:30Speaker 6: I wanted the. Fans he deserved it so. Much and,
- 36:35Speaker 6: look our fans are. Competitive so you, know is.
- 36:39Speaker 3: A jersey guy really one of?
- 36:42Speaker 6: Us but that jersey guy changed everything here and And
- 36:49Speaker 6: no brought us a sense of sophistication and you, know
- 36:55Speaker 6: people respected. US i don't think people you, know we're
- 37:00Speaker 6: ever lived in the affair with the team and the
- 37:02Speaker 6: way you.
- 37:03Speaker 3: Motivated, well look what it's become.
- 37:06Speaker 6: Done, OKAY i MEAN i pinched, myself well it's going well.
- 37:12Speaker 3: Now.
- 37:15Speaker 6: Yeah, no And i'm glad To I'm i'm glad this
- 37:20Speaker 6: is And i'm look in my, LIFE i always remember
- 37:25Speaker 6: the people who were good to me when it really.
- 37:28Speaker 6: Counted and you know we might have had our disagreements
- 37:33Speaker 6: and part of, it you, KNOW i was.
- 37:37Speaker 3: NEW i wasn't patient.
- 37:41Speaker 6: Enough, yeah but you were also established and you knew the.
- 37:47Speaker 6: Shortcomings you know what could happen is everything in life
- 37:51Speaker 6: is a learning. Curve but it's important to hang with good.
- 37:55Speaker 6: People and we were really lucky to have. You, well thank,
- 38:00Speaker 6: you And i'm really glad that you're letting.
- 38:04Speaker 3: Us put you in because you deserve.
- 38:06Speaker 2: To you.
- 38:07Speaker 3: Can't, hey this Is.
- 38:10Speaker 7: Evan thanks for tuning in to the. Show if you
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- 38:25Speaker 3: Lot