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Helping People Reclaim Their Lives with Richard Taite · The Trauma Therapist

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Trauma Therivers podcast. My name is guiming
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  Speaker 1: Ferson and I interview incredible people who share the story
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  Speaker 1: of how trauma has shaped their lives. And a big
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  Speaker 1: and our sponsors. So five, four, three, two and one,
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  Speaker 1: our folks, welcome back to the podcast. Very excited to
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  Speaker 1: have as my guest today. Richard Tate Richard welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me doctor, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: So. Richard is founder and executive chairman of Career Treatment,
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  Speaker 1: Wellness and SPA, executive chairman of One Method Treatment Centers,
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  Speaker 1: and the former founder of clip Side Malibu, which he
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  Speaker 1: sold in twenty eighteen. A leading figure in the addiction
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  Speaker 1: treatment industry for over a decade, Richard has built a
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  Speaker 1: career dedicated to helping people reclaim their lives from substance
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  Speaker 1: use and mental health challenges. He's also the host of
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  Speaker 1: We're Out of Time currently We're Out of Time podcast
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  Speaker 1: currently ranked number three in Apple's Mental health category, where
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  Speaker 1: he explores urgent issues around treatment, recovery, and wellness. All right, Richard,
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  Speaker 1: before we could go in here, share with our listeners
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  Speaker 1: where you're from. Originally and where you are.
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  Speaker 3: Currently, Well, I'm in Santa Monica currently and I was
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  Speaker 3: born in Encino and for.
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  Speaker 2: Those okay, I don't know, that's the valley.
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  Speaker 3: So I spent the first eighteen years of my life
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  Speaker 3: in the valley, and I've lived in Los Angeles my
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  Speaker 3: entire fifty nine years.
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  Speaker 1: Wow wow, all right, So how did this start for you?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I grew up in a household where
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  Speaker 3: I had a mentally ill brother when we still called
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  Speaker 3: it retarded, that's how long ago it was. My brother
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  Speaker 3: would be fifty read today, I'm sorry, fifty seven today.
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  Speaker 3: And he passed away a little while ago because what
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  Speaker 3: they found afterwards was his corpus closum was severed. So
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  Speaker 3: he passed away in twenty sixteen. I think he was fifty, right,
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  Speaker 3: And you imagine going through fifty years on this earth
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  Speaker 3: like that, and the suffering that he must have. It's
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  Speaker 3: like heartbreaking, right, it's too much. And so he was
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  Speaker 3: constantly getting beaten. I was constantly getting beaten.
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  Speaker 2: And so that I.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about at your house or just out in the world.
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  Speaker 3: No no, no, no, by our dad, Okay, constantly I'm not
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  Speaker 3: talking about And sometimes if we're lucky we got the belt.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I got the brass handle with the cane. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I mean this was about This was more than just
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  Speaker 3: the times, is.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say.
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  Speaker 3: And so you know, I had no model for anything.
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  Speaker 3: I always felt less than the model that was given
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  Speaker 3: to me was I'm going to treat people horribly to
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  Speaker 3: make myself feel better.
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  Speaker 2: That's how my dad did it, so that's how I
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  Speaker 2: did it.
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  Speaker 3: So I had no friends, and I stole pot out
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  Speaker 3: of my father's drawer at twelve years old, and I started.
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  Speaker 2: Smoking it with one of the only two friends.
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  Speaker 3: I had, and I didn't feel like a piece of
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  Speaker 3: shit anymore. I didn't feel less than I didn't. My
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  Speaker 3: head wasn't chewing on me. It felt good. And I
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  Speaker 3: smoked pot every single day from that day forward until
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  Speaker 3: I found cocaine, and I loved cocaine. But then what
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  Speaker 3: happened was I smoked it for the first time out
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  Speaker 3: of a glass pipe.
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  Speaker 1: How old are we talking now?
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  Speaker 2: Sixteen?
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  Speaker 3: And every minute I could do that, because it was expensive,
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  Speaker 3: every minute I could do it, I did it every minute.
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  Speaker 3: When I was twenty seven, I stopped smoking pot, and
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  Speaker 3: all I did was cocaine. That was it, smoking it
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  Speaker 3: and shooting it. But I couldn't put it in my
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  Speaker 3: own arm. What happened was is I'd get you know,
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  Speaker 3: working girls to literally inject me. They're my phlebotomist, right,
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  Speaker 3: And that's what happened to me. And I tried to
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  Speaker 3: get sober for three years. I couldn't even get thirty days.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you initially try to get sober? What was it?
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know, inherently right, your best self knows
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  Speaker 3: that this is wrong. You know that this is keeping
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  Speaker 3: you from who you were always meant to be. But
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  Speaker 3: then you go, I mean that's your core, right. But
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  Speaker 3: then what ends up happening is it's a hard life.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's exhausting, it's it's you know, it goes
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  Speaker 3: from all fun to fun with problems to all problems.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is how this thing progresses. So you
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  Speaker 3: can't do this. I was doing it on average. I
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  Speaker 3: was up without eating for an average of six to
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  Speaker 3: eight days at a time, Okay, I mean I was
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and forty seven pounds, dripping wet, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, it becomes a bad time and then
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  Speaker 3: the final straw is you run out of money, and
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  Speaker 3: then you have nowhere to live, and then you live
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  Speaker 3: in these crack motels for thirty dollars a day, and
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  Speaker 3: then you end up just sleeping on a boat on
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  Speaker 3: the marina that you snuck on because you know, you
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  Speaker 3: can't figure out anything else, you know, I mean, that's where.
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  Speaker 3: And then you humble yourself to go to your friend
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  Speaker 3: to ask for one thousand dollars to put you in
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  Speaker 3: sober living because you've got nothing and no one to
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  Speaker 3: go to. So I'm driving to Orange County to the
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  Speaker 3: only friend that I haven't completely taken advantage of, right,
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  Speaker 3: and then he gives me one thousand dollars in gash
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  Speaker 3: and I said, uh uh uh uh, that turns into
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  Speaker 3: crack coupons. Walk me across the street and get a
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  Speaker 3: bank check. That's what he did, Walk me across being
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  Speaker 3: got a bank check for eight hundred and fifty dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Then went with me to fill up my tank, get
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  Speaker 3: a cart and a cigarette, some beef jerky. Have twenty
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  Speaker 3: bucks in my in my fill up the tank, have
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  Speaker 3: twenty bucks in my pocket.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how I started my new life. How was that?
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like you're lucky to be alive.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was spending about one hundred thousand bucks
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  Speaker 3: a month on crack and other drugs and.
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  Speaker 2: Working girls.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so the next question is where the hell a
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  Speaker 1: you're getting that money from.
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  Speaker 2: I was practicing law without a law of license.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds like another podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, So were you were? You have limitations? Is run?
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  Speaker 2: I'm completely comfortable with this. Were you going to sty
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  Speaker 2: Addicts are a problem?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, We're going to do what we need to do
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  Speaker 3: in order to you know, quiet the mind and not
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  Speaker 3: feel horribly. That's that's just you know, we we have
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  Speaker 3: our growth, we have our growth cycle.
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  Speaker 1: So you get into rehab. Was what was that process
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  Speaker 1: like for you?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
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  Speaker 3: So I didn't want to do a rehab. I had
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  Speaker 3: no interest in doing a rehab. I wanted a mends
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  Speaker 3: sober living because that's where I went and that's what
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  Speaker 3: I know. Right, So I just started, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: was doing a lot of therapy. I was being taken
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  Speaker 3: through the stages of change, right, They're moving me gently
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  Speaker 3: through and I was getting a lot out of it.
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  Speaker 2: And I was one of the worst addicts I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: So I started giving these guys treatment three times a week.
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  Speaker 3: I'd have my therapists come down, spend three times, three
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  Speaker 3: times a week.
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  Speaker 2: Down there and deal with it right.
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  Speaker 3: And the state comes down and tells me I'm practicing illegally,
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  Speaker 3: and like, what are you talking about? They said, we're
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  Speaker 3: giving treatment. Said no, I'm not. They said, yes you are.
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  Speaker 3: I said, they have a therapist three times a week.
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  Speaker 3: That's hardly treatment. They said no, no, it is treatment.
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  Speaker 3: No doctors, no psychiatrists, no nurses, no nothing, just therapy
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  Speaker 3: and they can you imagine? And so I had no idea.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't provide more than I promised. It's what they needed,
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  Speaker 3: so I provided it. So when I found out it
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  Speaker 3: was illegal, I had my attorney and best friend go
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  Speaker 3: get me licensed.
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  Speaker 2: And that's how it started.
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  Speaker 1: So at that time, were you to what degree were
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  Speaker 1: you in recovery? I mean, to what degree were you
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote sober?
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  Speaker 3: That's such a great quest question nobody nobody ever asks me,
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  Speaker 3: and I never volunteer it because it sounds so insane.
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  Speaker 3: Eleven months I had sober when I opened my Men
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  Speaker 3: Sober Living. Eleven months I had the men Sober Living
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  Speaker 3: for a year. So that was twenty three months I
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  Speaker 3: had sober when I opened cliff.
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  Speaker 2: Side, and I was.
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  Speaker 3: The biggest single loser in AA history, and I opened
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  Speaker 3: arguably the finest treatment facility in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know. But you know I didn't
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  Speaker 2: go to law school. Well it's not sure.
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  Speaker 3: I failed out law school and I practiced for thirteen years,
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  Speaker 3: so this is par for the course.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, so there's something obviously it's kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of chairman of a healthcare corporation. What the hell's happening?
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  Speaker 1: There's a missing piece of the puzzle here. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: you you painted this picture or you describe your life
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  Speaker 1: as an extremely addicted, dangerously addicted individual who got into care,
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  Speaker 1: got into treatment. How did what was that bridge where
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  Speaker 1: you were like, Okay, I want to help people. I
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  Speaker 1: want to create a better space for people.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Well, like I said, I watched a few minutes of
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  Speaker 3: you and Frank Anderson, who is beyond impressive by the way. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: he's the academic. I'm the field research guy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I didn't just lose a quarter century twenty five
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  Speaker 3: years to addiction.
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  Speaker 2: Get that.
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  Speaker 3: I spent twenty two years giving people their families back.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't think I know this ain't theory.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that was the prelude to answering your question, which
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  Speaker 3: I entirely forgot.
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  Speaker 2: God, I hope you're editing.
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  Speaker 1: This question, like what question was? I mean, you talked
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  Speaker 1: about your experiences as an addict, and again, it's amazing
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  Speaker 1: you're alive, but you got into treatment. But at what
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  Speaker 1: point do you say to yourself, all right, I want
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  Speaker 1: to start helping people. I want to create a program
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  Speaker 1: to help people.
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  Speaker 3: So because I was so bad, and you know, I've
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  Speaker 3: had this experience. If I knew how to get sober,
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  Speaker 3: and I didn't, you know, pass that along and help
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  Speaker 3: other guys, I felt like a piece of garbage. See,
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  Speaker 3: you got to understand something about me, Okay. Even though
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  Speaker 3: I was a loser in AA and it took me
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  Speaker 3: three years to get thirty days, I kept trying.
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  Speaker 2: I showed up all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I'd show up, stand up, humble myself, and then you
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  Speaker 3: know people, I'd go up to every newcomer, even though
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  Speaker 3: I had no time, and I would take them to breakfast,
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  Speaker 3: and literally, you know, these guys are hard up right,
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  Speaker 3: and so I'd be like, come on, let's go to breakfast.
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  Speaker 2: We go to breakfast, and then you know, right next.
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  Speaker 3: Door is a place to get your hair done, so
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  Speaker 3: we'd go get our hair done.
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  Speaker 2: And then the next door to that is the nail place.
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  Speaker 3: We get the nail place, and now he's got a
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  Speaker 3: therapeutic alliance.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, he's like locked in.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm like, hey, dude, let's go get some clothes,
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  Speaker 3: and we go get some leviyes and spend five hundred
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  Speaker 3: bucks on the clothes right in the shoes, right, And
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  Speaker 3: then you roll up to the Z for Living and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, dude, you want to keep living like
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  Speaker 3: this like a scumbag?
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  Speaker 2: Of course not.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, go here for a month and your tight and
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  Speaker 3: I'd put them in sober living for a month.
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  Speaker 2: Another thing you created, this so living. No, no, no, no, I.
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  Speaker 3: Knew right from wrong even though I was suffering. Still
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  Speaker 3: I still and this has always been part of my DNA.
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  Speaker 3: I'd always pay for other people to go to sober living.
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  Speaker 3: Also when I was I'd always have somebody on my couch.
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  Speaker 3: It's called CouchSurfing, right when somebody's got nowhere to go,
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  Speaker 3: just like I had nowhere to go, so they'd be
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  Speaker 3: on my couch. Well, I couldn't stay sober. So I
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  Speaker 3: would literally make certain that my housekeeper filled the fridge
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  Speaker 3: for these people who were staying in my place, make
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  Speaker 3: certain that they could get to AA meetings, and then.
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  Speaker 2: I would go to a hotel for a week to.
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  Speaker 3: A month and go on a run and do drug
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  Speaker 3: So it's not a stretch for me to have always
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  Speaker 3: wanted to leave a place better than I found it.
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  Speaker 2: That's just how I'm wired.
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  Speaker 3: So I hope that answered your question because that's you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's just the way it works for me.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk. First of all, let me just remind
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  Speaker 1: everyone I'm speaking with Richard Tate. He is the founder
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  Speaker 1: and executive chairman of Career Treatment, Wellness and SPA.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus Richard, Yes, sir, damn yeah, I know. Well, why
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  Speaker 2: the hell do you think I've got the number?
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  Speaker 3: It's two as of yesterday mental health podcast in the country.
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  Speaker 3: People seem to either think I'm interesting or think I'm
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  Speaker 3: actually mental and fun to listen to.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about how things evolved from there such
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  Speaker 1: that cliff Side happened. How how does that happen?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's what that's exactly what happened. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: knew how to get well. I went through the trance
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  Speaker 3: theoretical model of behavior change with Margie Fetting and rest
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  Speaker 3: her soul. And once I knew how to get sober,
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  Speaker 3: the only thing I knew was therapy in AA and
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  Speaker 3: so you know, that's how we started in Sober Living
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  Speaker 3: and turned it into the treatment center.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, but that's there's one thing to have a
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  Speaker 1: treatment center. There's another thing to have cliff Side.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, No, that was that was the best at
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  Speaker 3: the time. That was the single most exclusive, high end
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  Speaker 3: drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world. And Carrera
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  Speaker 3: is that times ten. I mean, it's it's it was full.
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  Speaker 3: It was full with a wait list. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: forgot my social media. I right when I sold Cliffside,
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  Speaker 3: I had no social media, so nobody even knew I
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  Speaker 3: was back for like six months, and I'm like, oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, Google doesn't work, nobody watches TV.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell am I gonna do?
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  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I was on the
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  Speaker 3: cover of the LA Business Journal and we filled up
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  Speaker 3: like this. I had no idea how it happened right away,
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  Speaker 3: I mean on the cover and every in LA and
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  Speaker 3: like I said, I've lived in La my fifty nine years.
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  Speaker 2: I don't go anywhere. I work around the clock, right.
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  Speaker 3: So everybody knew immediately that we were back, and we
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  Speaker 3: were full within sixty days, all the time, all the time.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, Carrera is a different animal. It's one of one.
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  Speaker 3: It's if you end up, if you have the ability
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  Speaker 3: to go to Carrera and you end up somewhere else,
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  Speaker 3: you're livid, livid. And it was built that way.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I have two questions here, as you were recovering,
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  Speaker 1: as you were getting sober, what was your relationship like
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  Speaker 1: with your with your father in your mind?
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  Speaker 3: Can I say, can I say something before or that
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  Speaker 3: other than my children being born? This time, I am
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  Speaker 3: most proud of Krrea. Let me just give you an example.
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  Speaker 3: The other day, I went just unannounced. I showed up
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  Speaker 3: to our Malibu location, which was my beach house.
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  Speaker 2: By the way. So it's perfect.
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  Speaker 3: And I show up and it's exactly what I want.
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  Speaker 3: All I want is perfection. It's a love call. It's
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  Speaker 3: like being in the womb. It was beautiful, it was perfect.
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  Speaker 3: I've never been more proud to own a center, never,
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  Speaker 3: And I am left and I cried the whole Helm.
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  Speaker 3: It's beautiful and even better than that is One Method,
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  Speaker 3: because we're scaling to a thousand beds to treat the military, veterans,
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  Speaker 3: their families and ordinary folks with HMOs, and we're treating
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  Speaker 3: them all These people can get treated for two hundred
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  Speaker 3: fifty bucks or five hundred bucks for the month for
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  Speaker 3: their deductible I've never been a part of something like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's the greatest thing I've ever done. How did you.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously you have people working with you to create this,
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  Speaker 1: How did you Where did you get these people from?
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  Speaker 2: Where did you get all? Right, you're gonna love this story.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna love this story. So I bought One Method
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  Speaker 3: from an acquaintance of mine. It turns out I bought
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  Speaker 3: nothing but a money pit initially, right, So I was
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  Speaker 3: working with four old employees of mine right when the
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  Speaker 3: non compete five year period ended from Cliffside. So I
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  Speaker 3: show back up at the beach house and I tell
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  Speaker 3: the girls I just bought a center called One Method,
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  Speaker 3: And they just start packing their stuff and they get
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  Speaker 3: out to look at it, and they come back with
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  Speaker 3: the blood literally rush gone from their faces. They're like ghosts,
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, you bought nothing, and I'm like, what
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  Speaker 3: are you talking about. I met the staff, I met
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  Speaker 3: the clients. They're like, dude, you've been gone five years.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, man, would you forget that there's three shifts
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  Speaker 3: that's all they had, and no nurses.
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  Speaker 2: We can't even build for it. You bought nothing but
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  Speaker 2: a drain. You killed us.
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  Speaker 3: You killed us in the first week rich And I
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  Speaker 3: was like, guys, calm down, just go home. It'll be
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  Speaker 3: fixed in the morning. So I, naturally, I cried myself
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  Speaker 3: to sleep, screen into.
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  Speaker 2: A billow, and when I woke up in the morning, I.
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  Speaker 3: Was quiet, and it hit me, everybody comes home today.
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  Speaker 3: So I picked up the phone and I called ten
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  Speaker 3: of the best practitioners in the industry that still worked
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  Speaker 3: at Cliffside, and I said, guys, sorry for the late notice,
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  Speaker 3: but everybody comes home today.
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  Speaker 2: And they said, we're doing it again.
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  Speaker 3: I said, oh yeah, and they said, well, let me
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: go give my notice and I'll call you right back.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: And ten people in one hour gave their notice. Must
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: have felt like the end of a Godfather movie. But wait,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: there's more. Just like the Shamwell commercial. Good part of
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  Speaker 3: this is our best part is I told the president
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  Speaker 3: of my company. Let's stay lean. We got six months
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  Speaker 3: to ramp up. We're not even going to have a license.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: We can't bail, we can't do anything. Okay, please, let's
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  Speaker 3: just all roll up our sleeves, just the ten of us,
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  Speaker 3: and now fourteen because we've got you know, we started
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: with four and it we all know, we're all the best.
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  Speaker 3: We can do it, no problem.
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  Speaker 2: Rich.
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  Speaker 3: Ten days later, the president of my company walks into
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  Speaker 3: my office and she says, they're calling. I said, who's calling?
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  Speaker 3: She said, the people from Cliffside. I said, what do
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: they want? She says, they want to know what's wrong
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  Speaker 3: with them. They want to know why they can't come.
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  Speaker 3: And I said how many? And she said fourteen? And
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I said take them all. And six followed, and then
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  Speaker 3: I hired the hr person after that, So thirty one
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  Speaker 3: people came from cliff Side. So we're not a year
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  Speaker 3: and five months old or ten months old. We're twenty
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: two years old, okay. And then the next sixty nine
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  Speaker 3: were by invitation only. So where I got the people
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: was the first hundred were by invitation only, and when
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: someone got too busy and they said, Rich, I need
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: the support. Will you hire me somebody, i'd say no,
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  Speaker 3: hell now, okay, but it's not.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Just hiring hiring people, it's hiring the right people.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: It's the right people these are.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: But my point is you obviously have some incredible acumen
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to an ability to pick and choose and find those people.
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  Speaker 3: Only the good souls need apply. That's my that's my hook.
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  Speaker 3: I've got a love call thing going on. Okay, if
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: you're desensitized to the process of helping another human being,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: you don't get hired forget shown the door. I mean,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: you know, I was born at night, but when last night?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know a good soul when I see one.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: And that's why.
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  Speaker 2: I see a good soul.
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  Speaker 3: We wrap them up, we bring them into the family,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: and we keep them forever. I mean, this is you know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: this isn't I don't have a lot of turnover. Okay,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that's not in an industry where there's all turnover.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: We don't have turnover. That's not that's not our issue.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Richard. As we kind of wind down here, when you
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: were going through recovery process, what was working for you,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: what quote unquote helped you.
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  Speaker 3: And.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: What did you want to bring to the treatment centers
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: that you have.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Well, I was a different guy when I got sober, Right,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: I got sober in a room with five bunk beds
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: and ten.
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  Speaker 2: Guys in the room, and you know where a guy.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Would be farting or sneezing or coughing, and they roll
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: over in their bed in the bottom, and I'm swinging
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: around up top, and I'm two feet from the cottage
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  Speaker 3: cheese ceiling, and I'm like, God, what did I do
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: to my life? But I'm a different guy now, And
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: if I had these problems now, there's no way in
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: hell I go to that place, just no chance. I
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: wouldn't even discuss it. Now, does that mean I should die?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look at how many people I've helped. I've
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: probably given ten thousand people back to their loved ones.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: When I say I we.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I employ over two hundred and fifty
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: people soon to employ thousands. Let me ask you a question.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Am I leaving this place better than I found it?
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Of course I am, okay. So what I did was
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I wanted to create a place for me Today, I
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: have three guys. I had three guys a couple months
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: ago in my place at once, and they all owned
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: soccer teams, not in the same leagues, but real soccer teams. Now,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: one guy is eh, he's selfish, he ain't ever gonna
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: make it.
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  Speaker 2: The other two.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Humility, beyond kind like you wouldn't know, philanthropic now, learning
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: how to be good fathers what you don't think. These
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: guys are better people, so they're gonna become First of all,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: you become better people.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: You got a better chance to stay it sober.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Right, self care turns into self esteem, which turns into
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: self love. But these guys are on a different plane.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: So when you help them, the trickle down effect is
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: something you can't even measure, and that makes me feel good.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Well all right, Richard, I mean I feel like I
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: could talk to you for many more hours, and I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: think there's much more to talk about. We'll have to
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: have you back. But for people who want to learn
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: more about you, what's the best way.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Well, always go to Carrera Treatment dot com at c
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: A R R A r A Treatment dot com. You
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: can always reach me at Richard Tate t a I
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: T E. Official on all the social media platforms, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: of course the We Are Out of Time podcast with.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Richard Tate on YouTube.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Very proud of that about almost ninety thousand subscribers already
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: and getting the getting the word out about fentanyl, and
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: so that we can make certain that parents don't have
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: to bury their children, and of course doing the mental
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: health work like you're doing as well.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Appreciate that. We'll have all that link up here at
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the show notes page at the Trauma Therapist podcast dot com. Richard,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: amazing and inspiring. My god, I can't wait to have
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you back. Thank you so much.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, doctor, pleasure is all mine. Thank you for having
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: me