Latest / Brian Thomas / Gary Benoit - BOOK - Vanguard of the Americanist Cause
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you. Real quick listener to lunch. Going
- 0:03Speaker 1: to be a Matt Tree brewer today. Summit Park, Luash
- 0:05Speaker 1: location and without further adom really excited about talking with
- 0:07Speaker 1: Gary Benoy. He's the editor in chief of The New American,
- 0:10Speaker 1: which is a political affiliate of the John Birch Society,
- 0:13Speaker 1: and author of the book We're going to be speaking
- 0:15Speaker 1: about today Today Vanguard of Americans caused a close look
- 0:18Speaker 1: at the John Birch Society. He's been a member of
- 0:20Speaker 1: the JBS since joining as a teenager back in nineteen
- 0:24Speaker 1: sixty eight, been a member of its staff since seventy seven,
- 0:27Speaker 1: editor of The New American in nineteen eighty six, and
- 0:29Speaker 1: he's assumed his current position is editor in chief since
- 0:31Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Over the years, he served as director
- 0:34Speaker 1: of the Birch Society's Research Department, editor of the John
- 0:37Speaker 1: Birch Society, Bolton, and the publisher of The New American.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Welcome to the fifty five Case Morning Show, Gary Benoy.
- 0:42Speaker 1: It's a real pleasure to have you on the program, Sir,
- 0:45Speaker 1: It's a.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Pleasure beyond Brian and thank you so much for inviting me.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Oh happy to and you know I was thinking about it.
- 0:51Speaker 1: John Birch Society has been the target of the slings
- 0:54Speaker 1: and arrows of outrage for years. You know, we people
- 0:57Speaker 1: call conspiracy theorists, and then we kind of call pattern observers,
- 1:01Speaker 1: and you hear these crazy ideas and these and these
- 1:04Speaker 1: conclusions about things, and you dismissed them as all, come on,
- 1:09Speaker 1: that's not going on. And then next thing, you know,
- 1:11Speaker 1: wait for a few years, and it turns out, well,
- 1:13Speaker 1: you know what, that conspiracy theorist ie pattern observer turns
- 1:17Speaker 1: out to be right. That's basically the John Bursa Society.
- 1:20Speaker 2: And that's absolutely true. And of course there were people
- 1:22Speaker 2: who dismissed us many years ago because they did think
- 1:25Speaker 2: that what we're saying was crazy. And a perfect example
- 1:29Speaker 2: would be the John Birch Society's position to get us
- 1:31Speaker 2: out of the United Nations. And back in the nineteen
- 1:34Speaker 2: seventies we had a major billboard campaign to get us
- 1:36Speaker 2: out of the United Nations. I remember people, yes, and
- 1:40Speaker 2: people laughed at that, because, my goodness, isn't the United
- 1:43Speaker 2: Nations mankind's last us hope for peace. But what we
- 1:46Speaker 2: were saying at the time is no, that's not true,
- 1:48Speaker 2: that this is a world government trap and that an
- 1:51Speaker 2: organization large enough to bring about global peace could also
- 1:55Speaker 2: use the power to impose global tyranny. And over the
- 1:58Speaker 2: years people realized that that is the case, and more
- 2:00Speaker 2: and more people agree that we need to get out
- 2:02Speaker 2: of the United Nations. So that's just one example of
- 2:05Speaker 2: where people thought we were crazy but then learn all
- 2:07Speaker 2: over time that we were correct.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's one of the benefits Gary and
- 2:10Speaker 1: I might observe Gary about the modern age. As critical
- 2:15Speaker 1: as I may be about the garbage that the Internet
- 2:17Speaker 1: is and all the downsides of it, at least we
- 2:20Speaker 1: have real time information about what is going on, like
- 2:23Speaker 1: how many people paid attention to UN votes outside of
- 2:26Speaker 1: the John Birch Society and those within the UN going
- 2:28Speaker 1: back to the sixties or seventies, Like, what are they doing?
- 2:31Speaker 1: I have no idea what you oh?
- 2:32Speaker 2: There?
- 2:32Speaker 1: It is the UN downtown New York. What are they doing?
- 2:34Speaker 1: We have no idea. Nobody paid attention to it. You know,
- 2:37Speaker 1: Walter Conkit wasn't selecting pieces for his thirty minute news
- 2:41Speaker 1: program about the evils or what's going on inside the
- 2:44Speaker 1: United Nations. Now we know we have crazy dictatorships and
- 2:51Speaker 1: countries put on like, for example, the Human Rights Council. Like,
- 2:54Speaker 1: wait a second, they throw gay people off of buildings,
- 2:57Speaker 1: and yet here they are as part of the UN
- 2:58Speaker 1: Human Rights Group. This does make any sense, I guess,
- 3:03Speaker 1: leading me to my question, Gary, why are we still
- 3:06Speaker 1: part of it? Is it really just one giant, concentrated
- 3:12Speaker 1: spy organization where people from the various like the CIA
- 3:16Speaker 1: and MI six or five and are just gathering information
- 3:20Speaker 1: about foreign nations. It seems convenient to just draw that conclusion,
- 3:23Speaker 1: considering that apparently nothing gets done there.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Well, actually, I think behind the scenes, some things are
- 3:30Speaker 2: getting done, but they are things that are bad for
- 3:32Speaker 2: American independence and things that are bad for freedom. And
- 3:36Speaker 2: it's a step by step process. It's like putting a
- 3:38Speaker 2: frog into water and then you'd gradually turn up the
- 3:41Speaker 2: heat and before you know it, the frog is boiled.
- 3:43Speaker 2: And that is the same thing today. And a good
- 3:45Speaker 2: example of that strategy would be all the propaganda with
- 3:49Speaker 2: regard to climate change. Once upon a time that you
- 3:52Speaker 2: used to be called global warming, now they call it
- 3:54Speaker 2: climate change. I think that's easier to big out people
- 3:58Speaker 2: regarding climate change because the weather does changed from season
- 4:02Speaker 2: to season and whatnot. But that use is a pretext
- 4:07Speaker 2: to bring about a global green regime, which ostensibly is
- 4:12Speaker 2: a safe planet Earth, but in reality is intended to
- 4:15Speaker 2: enslave planet Earth's Earth, where a few people will control.
- 4:19Speaker 1: The many global wealth, deep redistribution, that's what it happens, yeah, right,
- 4:24Speaker 1: taking away from the rich countries, force them to cut
- 4:26Speaker 1: their own throat in the name of removing plant food
- 4:29Speaker 1: from the environment. How preposterous is this, gary that we
- 4:32Speaker 1: have come to the point where plant food carbon dioxide
- 4:35Speaker 1: has been labeled a pollutant that we need to get
- 4:38Speaker 1: rid of.
- 4:38Speaker 2: I mean, it really isn't crazy, isn't it? Because any
- 4:43Speaker 2: school child, even the people in elementary school, should know
- 4:46Speaker 2: that CO two is the gas of life. And yet
- 4:50Speaker 2: this is now being portrayed by the would be totalitarians
- 4:53Speaker 2: and the people that are able to beguile looking at
- 4:56Speaker 2: CO two is a pollutant. So it is absolutely crazy.
- 5:00Speaker 2: But the good news is that more and more people
- 5:02Speaker 2: are waking up, more and more people realize that freedom
- 5:05Speaker 2: is under attacks. So the problem now is not so
- 5:08Speaker 2: much trying to point out to people that something is wrong.
- 5:11Speaker 2: That was a big problem back in the nineteen sixties
- 5:14Speaker 2: and nineteen seventies, and whatnot. But the problem today much
- 5:17Speaker 2: more so, is to show people that there is something
- 5:20Speaker 2: that can be done about it, and that the erosion
- 5:22Speaker 2: of our freedoms is not happenstance, that it has happened
- 5:26Speaker 2: because powerful people and high places are planning it that way.
- 5:29Speaker 2: And the purpose of the John Birch Society, which is
- 5:31Speaker 2: founder of the nineteen fifty eight by a man named
- 5:33Speaker 2: Robert Welch, the purpose is number one, to expose that conspiracy,
- 5:39Speaker 2: and the other purpose is to bring about less government,
- 5:43Speaker 2: more responsibility, and with God's help, a better world. And
- 5:47Speaker 2: the John Birch Society is not a political organization at
- 5:50Speaker 2: least not in the political sense. Obviously he does deal
- 5:52Speaker 2: with political activism or political issues. But our belief is
- 5:56Speaker 2: that if we create the awareness and we get people
- 5:58Speaker 2: organized and involved well, that that will be the sea
- 6:02Speaker 2: change that will make the difference, That that will effect
- 6:06Speaker 2: how people go into when they go into voting boots,
- 6:08Speaker 2: that that will cause people to hold the seat of
- 6:11Speaker 2: the politicians who take an oath to the Constitution to
- 6:13Speaker 2: the fire and ensure that they either support that boat
- 6:17Speaker 2: and how they vote, or that they themselves will get
- 6:20Speaker 2: voted out of office.
- 6:22Speaker 1: Look Estha Gary Binoyd. He is the author of a
- 6:24Speaker 1: book you need to get a hold of, and it's
- 6:25Speaker 1: a Lincoln on my blog page, sir, that people can
- 6:27Speaker 1: easily get a copy of Vanguard. The American has cost,
- 6:29Speaker 1: which talks about the John Vertus Society's history, what they've done,
- 6:32Speaker 1: what they've accomplished, the challenges they face, and of course
- 6:35Speaker 1: his history with them. Now, let us give us a
- 6:37Speaker 1: nefarious example of how this climate nonsense and plant food
- 6:41Speaker 1: that's killing the world. United Nations Agenda twenty thirty. When
- 6:44Speaker 1: I read the information about this, I think it's creeping
- 6:47Speaker 1: into the greater Cincinnati area. Our current mayor is interested
- 6:50Speaker 1: in what they call the connected communities, the sort of
- 6:53Speaker 1: one size fits all concentrated housing. Does this sound familiar
- 6:56Speaker 1: to you?
- 6:57Speaker 2: What it sure does. It's actually of the seventeen development
- 7:02Speaker 2: goals for the United Nations, Sustainable development goals. Of course
- 7:06Speaker 2: they call it sustainable development, but what is really meant
- 7:09Speaker 2: by sustainable is that ostensibly the affluent lifestyle the American people,
- 7:17Speaker 2: the family home, having private transportation, being able to get
- 7:22Speaker 2: in your own car and drive the work and whatnot.
- 7:25Speaker 2: All these things are now considered unsustainable by the powers
- 7:29Speaker 2: that be and by the United Nations, And so they
- 7:32Speaker 2: don't want to say, well, they want to impromise us,
- 7:34Speaker 2: but that what they call it instead is sustainable development.
- 7:38Speaker 2: And what you were just talking about is a part
- 7:40Speaker 2: of that strategy. This whole idea of fifteen minute cities
- 7:44Speaker 2: and of regulations ostensibly to protect the environment, But what
- 7:49Speaker 2: an actuality is intended to control us, to control the
- 7:52Speaker 2: American people. And if that sounds crazy, I would say,
- 7:55Speaker 2: just look at what happened in twenty twenty with COVID,
- 7:58Speaker 2: where in the name of fighting COVID, what happened we
- 8:02Speaker 2: were told to stay in our homes unless we absolutely
- 8:04Speaker 2: have to go out. Well, we were told we could
- 8:07Speaker 2: not go to work. Businesses had to close. Of course,
- 8:11Speaker 2: large big box stores such as Walmart stayed open, but
- 8:15Speaker 2: mom and pop stores were told to close, and of
- 8:19Speaker 2: course even churches were shuttered. And who could have believe
- 8:23Speaker 2: before twenty twenty that something like that could have happened
- 8:26Speaker 2: in the United States of America. I look at that
- 8:28Speaker 2: as a trial balloon, is to what did thetalitarians want
- 8:33Speaker 2: to accomplish in the future, to make that permanent and
- 8:38Speaker 2: to control us completely, using as a pretext environment and
- 8:41Speaker 2: other issues.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Yeah, they certainly did trample on a right to free
- 8:44Speaker 1: exercise the religion and the right to assemble, which are
- 8:47Speaker 1: both guaranteed by our constitutions. Seems to me the First
- 8:50Speaker 1: Amendment just got chucked out the window in the name
- 8:52Speaker 1: of oh, I don't know, social distancing, which was a
- 8:55Speaker 1: made up consen as a concept as well. We did
- 8:57Speaker 1: learn a lot from that, and I don't know ask
- 9:00Speaker 1: kind of read tee lees, but I think we are
- 9:01Speaker 1: all much smarter and much more in tune to that
- 9:05Speaker 1: kind of nefarious element going on. I'm not quite sure
- 9:10Speaker 1: that they can necessarily get away with it like they
- 9:12Speaker 1: did last time, or am I being too optimistic.
- 9:14Speaker 2: I don't think they can to the same extent, But
- 9:16Speaker 2: I would say the biggest problem today is not, as
- 9:19Speaker 2: they said earlier, trying to convince people that something is wrong.
- 9:22Speaker 2: The big problem today is convincing people that something can
- 9:25Speaker 2: be done about it. And the way to do that
- 9:28Speaker 2: is number one, to recognize that if we are going
- 9:31Speaker 2: to save and restore our freedoms, we have to do
- 9:34Speaker 2: it ourselves. We cannot depend on somebody else to do it.
- 9:37Speaker 2: We cannot depend on a particular politician to do it.
- 9:40Speaker 2: We have to do it ourselves. And the way to
- 9:42Speaker 2: do that is to become informed, become organized, apply concerted action,
- 9:47Speaker 2: and work in communities all across the country to bring
- 9:50Speaker 2: about the great awakening, and again to insist that the
- 9:53Speaker 2: people who represent us in Washington and the people who
- 9:56Speaker 2: represent us in the state houses that they buy by
- 10:00Speaker 2: the constitution. Of course, the constitution itself shows that there
- 10:03Speaker 2: is still hope because we still have the Constitution. And
- 10:08Speaker 2: as long as we have it, as soon as people
- 10:10Speaker 2: get organized and insists that we abide by the Constitution,
- 10:14Speaker 2: I believe that will solve the problem. But it's going
- 10:16Speaker 2: to take a lot of hard work.
- 10:17Speaker 1: It seems that part of the un and Jena is
- 10:19Speaker 1: also depopulation. And I know quite a few listeners always
- 10:22Speaker 1: bring this up regularly, and I mean, I guess it
- 10:26Speaker 1: doesn't work. China totalitarian regime where you have no rights.
- 10:29Speaker 1: They had the one child policy and they are really
- 10:32Speaker 1: struggling and suffering from it mightily. You look at any
- 10:35Speaker 1: country in the world where this sort of Western concept
- 10:38Speaker 1: of selfishness and refusal to bring new life into the
- 10:41Speaker 1: world in spite of how great it is to do so,
- 10:44Speaker 1: has really taken hold. So Western countries have been convinced
- 10:47Speaker 1: that having babies is bad. We're a bunch of cockroaches
- 10:50Speaker 1: killing the planet. It's too expensive to have children. Mom
- 10:53Speaker 1: and dad both need to work. I mean, that's been
- 10:55Speaker 1: kind of baked into the cake as well as this
- 10:57Speaker 1: religion of climate change.
- 10:58Speaker 2: Has it not absolutely I agree to completely Bryant. And actually,
- 11:03Speaker 2: if we could go back a few years, let's say,
- 11:05Speaker 2: go back to the nineteen fifties. And I was born
- 11:07Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty three, so I remember the last part
- 11:10Speaker 2: of the fifties. I remember the sixties. But back then
- 11:13Speaker 2: it was very common for a family and family size
- 11:18Speaker 2: is back then were bigger, but very common for a
- 11:20Speaker 2: family to have just one way journer, and typically that
- 11:24Speaker 2: was the dad. Typically he just worked one job. Oftentimes
- 11:28Speaker 2: he just had in high school education. And yet he
- 11:31Speaker 2: was able to support his family, again a family size
- 11:34Speaker 2: typically being much larger than today, and he was able
- 11:37Speaker 2: to experience he was able to live the American dream.
- 11:41Speaker 2: He was able to own his own home, he was
- 11:43Speaker 2: able to have a car in the drive right way,
- 11:45Speaker 2: and so forth. Yet look at where we are today.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Or in order to achieve these things, you have both
- 11:51Speaker 2: the husband and the wife working. Yet people deciding, well,
- 11:54Speaker 2: we cannot have children. We have to postpone that, or
- 11:57Speaker 2: we only can have one or two children because things
- 12:01Speaker 2: are so tough we can't afford it otherwise. And also
- 12:06Speaker 2: what can you accomplish today with a high school education
- 12:10Speaker 2: in terms of earning the kind of living where you
- 12:12Speaker 2: can live the American dream today? And of course many
- 12:15Speaker 2: young people growing up are watering, will I ever be
- 12:18Speaker 2: able to buy a home? Will I ever be able
- 12:20Speaker 2: to have as good a lifestyle as my parents have?
- 12:23Speaker 2: So that is the transition that has taken place in
- 12:25Speaker 2: this country over a couple generations. And in John BURGESSIY,
- 12:29Speaker 2: we believe that it is not happenstance that that has
- 12:31Speaker 2: been happening by design because of this conspiracy, and an
- 12:35Speaker 2: includes not just communists. I mean, it's easy to say
- 12:37Speaker 2: communist conspiracy, and there is such a thing, but it's
- 12:41Speaker 2: also a conspiracy of insiders. It's also the deep state.
- 12:44Speaker 2: It's also people who are not themselves members of the
- 12:46Speaker 2: Communist party, but they don't mind working with the Communists
- 12:49Speaker 2: because they believe in the same thing communist do. Let's
- 12:52Speaker 2: not forget that monopoly. Total monopoly would be total government.
- 12:56Speaker 2: You cannot have a bigger monopoly than that. And what
- 12:59Speaker 2: happened when government has total power? And say people in
- 13:02Speaker 2: big business, big medium, big government, and whatnot, they're working
- 13:07Speaker 2: together and they will work with communists in order to
- 13:10Speaker 2: consolidate more and more government leading to total government, and
- 13:13Speaker 2: more and more internationalism leading to world government. So that
- 13:18Speaker 2: is the danger, and the solution is to simply expose
- 13:21Speaker 2: that conspiracy.
- 13:22Speaker 1: And get a copy of the book Vanguard of the Americans,
- 13:25Speaker 1: cause a close look at the John Birch Society, the victories,
- 13:29Speaker 1: some of the challenges they faced over the years. Hey,
- 13:31Speaker 1: they were on the front lines of these accusations of
- 13:35Speaker 1: craziness and conspiracy theory. But as we find out, you
- 13:39Speaker 1: wait long enough, guess who was right. Apparently it was
- 13:41Speaker 1: a John Burst Society. Gary Benoy, thank you for sticking
- 13:45Speaker 1: it out for all those years and being on the
- 13:47Speaker 1: front lines of the regular attacks. I'm sure you've got
- 13:50Speaker 1: a lot of callous to show for it, but you're
- 13:51Speaker 1: a great example to hold out for others to rise
- 13:55Speaker 1: to the challenge themselves.