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One Piece, 736-738 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes seven thirty six through seven thirty eight,
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  Speaker 1: sending a shockwave, The Worst Generation goes into Action, the
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  Speaker 1: birth of the Legend, the adventures of the Revolutionary Warrior,
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  Speaker 1: Sabo and the Brothers Bond, the untold story behind Lufi
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  Speaker 1: and Sabo's reunion. In these episodes, we get lots of
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  Speaker 1: Sabo info here, and I really was a little sorry
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  Speaker 1: to see him sail off into the sunset. Well fly off,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, but I'm hoping that we see him sooner
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  Speaker 1: rather than later. Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: show everyone.
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  Speaker 2: I am Natasha, Hello, and I'm Florian.
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  Speaker 1: Florian is here everybody. Yay, welcome back, Welcome back. So
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  Speaker 1: why did you choose this episode?
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  Speaker 2: Well, in general, because it's like the end of the arc,
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  Speaker 2: like we have some episodes left there still on the island.
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  Speaker 2: But I felt like I was there in the beginning
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  Speaker 2: and now I wanted to make a check in, and
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  Speaker 2: I also like sample.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I had mentioned this on a previous episode, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to mention it again just because this is such
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  Speaker 1: a Sambo heavy group of episodes. But I went to
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  Speaker 1: the One Piece pop up restaurant in Austin in like
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  Speaker 1: late May or April or something, can't even remember, and
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  Speaker 1: my friend, while I was like on the road with him,
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  Speaker 1: said something about how they have been cosplaying Sabo a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and I had only just found out that Sabo was
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  Speaker 1: still alive the previous recording, so I was just like,
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  Speaker 1: thank god I had watched that beforehand, because I really
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  Speaker 1: did think Sabo was dead. I took it for granted
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  Speaker 1: that Sabo was dead, and I don't know if I
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  Speaker 1: ever mentioned any suspicion that he was still alive, but
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  Speaker 1: it was like, if I ever mentioned it, it had
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  Speaker 1: been a sort of well, you never know, we never
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  Speaker 1: saw a body, you never know. But I really did
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  Speaker 1: accept it. I didn't think he was still alive. So
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  Speaker 1: I am so relieved that I had at least gotten
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  Speaker 1: there for this recording before they brought him up to me,
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  Speaker 1: because I would have been so pissed to find out
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  Speaker 1: that way. And the one thing about this group of
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  Speaker 1: episodes that I found very funny is that his involvement
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  Speaker 1: with the Revolutionary Army, it never even entered my mind
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  Speaker 1: that he would know Lufy's dad. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: it didn't occur to me, like Dragon is the Revolutionary Army.
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  Speaker 1: I should have known, you know, like never even entered
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  Speaker 1: my mind, not one time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they would say, it's like it's still like
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  Speaker 2: the biggest well not the biggest, but the organization that
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  Speaker 2: we know the least about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably m bear.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I I like, I'm gonna be honest,
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  Speaker 2: I am thinking he was dead as well. But it
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  Speaker 2: happened in a flashback, and usually when it happens in
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  Speaker 2: a flashback, they're actually bad.
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  Speaker 1: That's true that I think that's what it was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but but this time I really like it. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just gonna say right now, first time watching this Eye
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  Speaker 2: kind of was like, like, how do I say that
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  Speaker 2: stand in for Ace? You know, like basically mmm, But
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  Speaker 2: he's his own character and has his own things going on,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like and actually now even in these two episodes,
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  Speaker 2: his character is different from Aces. Like Ace was way
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  Speaker 2: more hot headed, I would say, and he is a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more well I would not say cal, but it's.
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  Speaker 1: Just I wouldn't say. He doesn't seem like motivated by
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  Speaker 1: anger as much as as did. He was a really
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  Speaker 1: angry guy, and he got more control over that later
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  Speaker 1: on in his life. As a kid, he was real
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  Speaker 1: pissed all the time. But but I think that that
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  Speaker 1: still was like a major thing for him. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: a really good point about the like is he a
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  Speaker 1: substitute for Ace? That I didn't really think of as
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  Speaker 1: being a concern, but I could see how in a
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  Speaker 1: different like, if he were handled differently, it would definitely
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  Speaker 1: feel that way because having him turn up right as
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  Speaker 1: Ace dies, not really right as but you know, like it,
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  Speaker 1: it definitely could feel kind of cheap. But I really
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel that way at all. I was like relieved
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  Speaker 1: because it seemed like Ace, you know, Lufy had these
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  Speaker 1: two brothers and both of them are dead. That fucking sucks,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so Sambo turning up alive instead of it
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  Speaker 1: feeling cheap, I was just like, thank god Lufy's got
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  Speaker 1: somebody still from his like old childhood, because otherwise I
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  Speaker 1: just felt sorry for him, even though I know that
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  Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't have seen it that way. He's got
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  Speaker 1: he's come to terms with Sabo's death since then, But
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  Speaker 1: it was just there's something about when a person dies
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  Speaker 1: wanting someone who knew them around to talk about them with,
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  Speaker 1: and like Lufy didn't really have anybody like that. His
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  Speaker 1: crew had met Ace a couple times, but like briefly
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  Speaker 1: and not really gotten to know him very well. And
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  Speaker 1: not that Lufy is somebody who sits down and like
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  Speaker 1: has vulnerable conversations about grief or anything really, but it
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  Speaker 1: is nice to know that there's somebody out there who
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  Speaker 1: remembers Ace the way that Lufy remembers him. You know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I really liked I mean jumping to the
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  Speaker 2: almost the end, but I like when they met in
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  Speaker 2: the Colosseum and like we before did not see the
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  Speaker 2: scene like we like how we played out. We just
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  Speaker 2: saw that Sabo was there and then he cut away.
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  Speaker 2: This time we kind of see their conversation and it
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  Speaker 2: made me TV eyed. I'm gonna be honest, it really
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  Speaker 2: was like how Lovie is sorry that he couldn't save
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  Speaker 2: As and saboys just like, dude, I'm just so happy
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  Speaker 2: that you're still alive, Like, and I'm sorry that I
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  Speaker 2: was not there, you know, Like it is so bittersweet.
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  Speaker 1: I was really because like when the conversation happens between
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  Speaker 1: the two of them, like, we see the moment that
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  Speaker 1: Sabo pops up and Lufy is just like, you're not
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  Speaker 1: my brother, but I couldn't. As the conversation goes on,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wait, we didn't see this part, right, No, no,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't see this. It took me a moment to
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  Speaker 1: remember because I think it's a time when he pops
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  Speaker 1: up and then we don't follow up. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: why don't we get to see what's going on with Sabo?
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  Speaker 1: And then so many other things happen and I just forgot,
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  Speaker 1: you know, But I'm kind of glad I forgot, because
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  Speaker 1: I think I had been annoyed at having to wait
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  Speaker 1: this long to see Lufy's reaction to him. But okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so let's let's back up and talk about the seven
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  Speaker 1: thirty six sending a shock wave the Worst Generation goes
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  Speaker 1: into action. Remind me, I know that Saraphim informed me,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't remember what the Worst Generation thing is
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  Speaker 1: because Saraphim like told me, and I don't think. I
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like I should remember, but I don't,
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  Speaker 1: and so it went right out of my head once again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Worst Generation is like it's not an official
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  Speaker 2: official title. But they just keep calling it that. It
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  Speaker 2: is kind of Loofy solo and like all these pirates
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  Speaker 2: that were at Suba ODI when Loofy punched the celestial directon,
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  Speaker 2: there was like a whole bunch and they were like
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  Speaker 2: all the new rookies who were like really promising and
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  Speaker 2: apparently the worst generation because they make the most trouble.
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  Speaker 2: Like Law is also a part of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so it's not everybody like within like ten
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  Speaker 1: years of Lufy's age group.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty much about that. I would more like to say
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  Speaker 2: maybe like even two or three, Like it's not even
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  Speaker 2: ten years because Cavendish, for example, is not one of
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  Speaker 2: them because Kevendish is like, no, he would be an
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  Speaker 2: older generation and so he's mad at them because they're
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  Speaker 2: stealing the spotlight from him.
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  Speaker 1: Before it was I thought he was like around the
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  Speaker 1: same age as Zoro, but Zoro just gives like very
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  Speaker 1: old man vibes too, So that's also part of it,
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  Speaker 1: just how grumpy he is with everything all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not like definite, like there's no metric
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  Speaker 2: to it. Really, it's just like right title.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so that I like this the grouping them
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  Speaker 1: this way I'll have to sort of keep track of
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  Speaker 1: like who is part of this mentally, but yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: episode is like mostly well, I won't say mostly, but
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  Speaker 1: I will say in large part focusing in on everybody
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  Speaker 1: who got fucked over by do Flamingo getting taken out,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people who had deals with him, who
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  Speaker 1: were getting their weapons from him, or who were going
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  Speaker 1: to be getting those like manufactured fruits. Yeah, and it
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  Speaker 1: has resulted in a lot of them being It's a
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  Speaker 1: very Scooby Doo sort of reaction where it's like, and
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  Speaker 1: we would have gone away with it too if it
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  Speaker 1: weren't for you meddling kids. They're just basically looking at
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  Speaker 1: Loofy and his cohorts as the monkey in the works.
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  Speaker 1: Is that the way you say that the monkey wrench,
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  Speaker 1: the wrench in the works. I think it's a wrench
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  Speaker 1: in the works, the wrench in the.
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  Speaker 2: Works, or monkey's paul. I know that one, but that's
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  Speaker 2: something different, the monkey's paw.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's monkey on their back that I'm thinking of,
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't work either, because monkey on your back
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  Speaker 1: usually refers to like addiction. Never mind, I I the
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  Speaker 1: defense rests, but you get what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I know it is like a big part of this,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, no, they have like a target on their
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  Speaker 2: back now even more not only by Kai, about by
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  Speaker 2: a lot of other people as well.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really into this, Like this got me very excited
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  Speaker 1: because the whole thing this thus far has just been
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  Speaker 1: that Loofy and his crew have become well known enough
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  Speaker 1: that when they run into people who know who they are,
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  Speaker 1: those people have been like, well, I want to take
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  Speaker 1: down this dude because he's got an overinflated reputation or
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  Speaker 1: he thinks he's a big shot, and I just want
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  Speaker 1: to prove that he isn't. And that motivation is fine
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  Speaker 1: and well, but it does sort of get weak after
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  Speaker 1: you've done it like thirty times. And now all of
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  Speaker 1: these different pirates being like you ruined the trade agreement
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  Speaker 1: that I had that kept me ruling over this whole island.
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  Speaker 1: That is a very very legit beef. To have this
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  Speaker 1: feels like something, you know. Yeah, so I'm extremely down
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  Speaker 1: with this turn of events, and I feel like it
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  Speaker 1: could be the gift that keeps on giving for a
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  Speaker 1: long time, and I would I would be fine with that. Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Bernadette is in the chat saying but what about Big
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  Speaker 1: Beg a beij b e g E. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: this is isn't the generation more about the time they
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  Speaker 1: became a pirate, which is why they're the worst generation,
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  Speaker 1: because it's so many troublemakers at the same time. That
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  Speaker 1: would make sense to me. Yeah, I thought that was what.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what Big Bege is.
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  Speaker 2: Though it's it's one of the pirates. We see him
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  Speaker 2: briefly in these episodes. But yeah, it's more, it's not
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  Speaker 2: about the age, like I think she says that because
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  Speaker 2: before you said something Sorow and Kevendish being the same age.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not about the age at all. It is like,
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  Speaker 2: at what point did you become a pirate?
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha? Okay, I see, I see. Oh, And Bernadette says
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  Speaker 1: something about having joined the discord about the middle name discussion. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I miss that. I'm sorry. I just apologizes to everybody
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  Speaker 1: who like the middle name thing works for I'm not
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  Speaker 1: trying to be shitty, but I just don't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: But I don't you know what I think, Bernadette. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: I did see that was it a little while ago,
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  Speaker 1: and it was about how with like Japanese naming conventions,
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  Speaker 1: the middle name is different because I feel like it
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  Speaker 1: was something that the explanation actually worked, and I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I just only it's been you know, a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks since my last recording, so it's been a while.
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  Speaker 1: Bernadette says, yes, okay, right, right right. I'm sorry. I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember the details of it, but I remember reading
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  Speaker 1: it and being like, ah, okay, because it just otherwise
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  Speaker 1: just was not making sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway. I don't know, I have not seen it, sorry, Bonadet.
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  Speaker 2: And I had like a lot of studying going on
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  Speaker 2: the past week.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's been a very packed May for a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people. I don't know what's going on astrologically,
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  Speaker 1: but I know my mother would be like Taurus is
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  Speaker 1: trying Capricorn or something like that. Oh my god. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so sorry, Florian. But just really briefly, I want to
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  Speaker 1: do an aside here to talk about the Chopper reveal
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  Speaker 1: of action. Just briefly.
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  Speaker 2: Really, I just remembered it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't hate it, but I don't love it. But
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  Speaker 1: I also they are saying it's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: out until June of next year, which means to me
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  Speaker 1: that probably the Chopper that we saw wasn't even fully finished.
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing by the time we see him for real,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna look a little bit different still. And I
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  Speaker 1: was also I kind of expected it to be the
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  Speaker 1: same voice actor. I don't know why. I just thought
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  Speaker 1: they would, you know what I mean. It's not a
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  Speaker 1: bad thing to choose, but I didn't realize that. I
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  Speaker 1: was just expecting it until he spoke and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what what is this? I think his voice is probably
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  Speaker 1: much more appropriate for live action than the voice actor
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  Speaker 1: would be for live.
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  Speaker 2: Action, Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, but maybe
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  Speaker 2: the voice actor, like for the enimey. I mean, there
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  Speaker 2: are a voice actor, so I guess they can change
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  Speaker 2: up their voice. But I'm happy with it. Again, it's
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  Speaker 2: not perfect, but it could have been so much worse,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm also okay with it, like more on the
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  Speaker 2: good side, honestly. So Yeah, I just hope that they
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  Speaker 2: that he does not get like the what its ghost
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  Speaker 2: treatment in Deeper Rons, but they cannot do that with Jopper.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, where he's like barely on screen because of the
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  Speaker 1: price of rendering him. Yeah, no, I get what you.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, but they can that's I mean.
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  Speaker 1: They could, but I really, yeah, I also hope that
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  Speaker 1: they don't. I kind of wanted him to be a
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  Speaker 1: little cutesier. He's like longer and narrower than I expected,
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  Speaker 1: and not as like like round and toddler, like you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. He looks almost more like an
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  Speaker 1: adolescent when kids start to grow faster than their body
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  Speaker 1: can almost keep up with and so they get like
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  Speaker 1: weirdly gangly. He sort of looks like he's in that stage.
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  Speaker 1: But this is all very much like nitpicking. Overall, I
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  Speaker 1: think he looks so much better than he could have.
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  Speaker 1: They could have done a lot wrong with Chopper. This
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  Speaker 1: was a difficult thing to have to rend like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't have been mad if they decided
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  Speaker 1: to do like a full on puppet. I think that
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  Speaker 1: would have been kind of cool. But you know, but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to mention it because it got It
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  Speaker 1: was a big deal. Florian was keeping me in the
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  Speaker 1: loop of it dropping because I don't follow the pages
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  Speaker 1: for this stuff because I don't want to get spoiled.
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  Speaker 1: They'll post on any official pages, I'll forget that I'm
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: following them, and then when a season drops, I don't
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: get to watch things as they air, but they'll post
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: about the latest episode and I'll accidentally see it. So
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I just don't follow anything just out of an abundance
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  Speaker 1: of caution. So I need Florian to keep me apprized
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  Speaker 1: of the developments that happen.
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  Speaker 2: I will, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So returning to this, I was talking about all of
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  Speaker 1: the other pirates who got their shit interfere with. We
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: also get a little bit more here with the apology
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  Speaker 1: on behalf of the Marines from uh thank you. I
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  Speaker 1: always I get everybody's names messed up. Fujita also goes
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  Speaker 1: by something else though, what's the other name that people
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  Speaker 1: call him? Doesn'ty? That's it? That's it, Yes, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's why I get confused sometimes. The
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  Speaker 1: last recording that I did, he like he had apologized
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: within that episode, and I kind of was like shitty
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  Speaker 1: because I was just pissy about the world and an
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  Speaker 1: apology being feeling like very thanks for fucking nothing. But
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: this episode really makes it clear what an effect, a
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  Speaker 1: real material effect, his apology has on everything. So I
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  Speaker 1: appreciated that. How did you feel, like, did you have
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  Speaker 1: the same reaction as me at the beginning with the
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  Speaker 1: with the apology or were you like cheering for him
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  Speaker 1: the same way that Saraphim was.
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  Speaker 2: I was, I don't know, like I honestly cannot remember,
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  Speaker 2: so I would say it was kind of like indifferent,
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  Speaker 2: probably because I was just more were not more interested,
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  Speaker 2: But I was just like, where does this go? You know,
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  Speaker 2: like kind of I like the move, but we did
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  Speaker 2: actually do something. You know, we see and we see
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  Speaker 2: some ripples here, definitely, as you said, like we see
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  Speaker 2: some Okay, now this has an effect. But is it
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: just like I don't know, a one time scandal and
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: then everybody just moves on with their lives or with
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  Speaker 2: this actually changed something? And I mean you have to
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: wait and see. I guess it's a it.
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  Speaker 1: Like what actually it accomplishes? Will it remains to be seen.
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  Speaker 1: But the fact that the powers that be seemed genuinely
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  Speaker 1: pissed off at him for apologizing, I feel like that's
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  Speaker 1: the thing I like that points to something will come
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  Speaker 1: of this, or they wouldn't be so mad about it,
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  Speaker 1: which isn't necessarily true, but it like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's me giving the benefit of the doubt a little
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  Speaker 1: bit here because he pushes back a lot more the
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: reason that I was so shitty is because lip service
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to the correct side of a cause, especially after the fact,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: is just the way so many governments choose to operate.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: They try and pretend they were on the right side
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: of things from the beginning when there's just so much,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: like verifiable evidence that they were the baddies, and they
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: now want to not acknowledge that, especially like the United
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: States is particularly head in the sand about our complicity
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: regarding any sort of oppression. So it's a hot button
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: issue for somebody like me who has become more aware
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: over the past decade of how full of shit we
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: are pretending to support causes when it's like you actually
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: went and tried to frame civil rights leaders for things
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and got them executed, and now you're trying to act
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: like we're celebrating Martin Luther King Day. Get the fuck
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: out of here, you know, But when we actually see
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: him on the phone with a kau thank you, the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: fireball man, the very angry fireball man. Yes, a Kayanu
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: is fucking heated over this pun intended, And it's basically
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: like you made us look really fucking bad, and we
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: lost a ton of credibility and Fujiitura is like, if
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you're worried about credibility, how about you do the right
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: fucking thing. There's an idea about you do the thing
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: that you want to take credit for. How about that?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And uh Akahnu, he is the establishment, like that dude
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: is the status quo, and he does not appreciate this
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: at all. So for me, seeing the way that Fujitura
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: spoke to Akahnu made me go, Okay, this is more
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: than just lip service trying to make a public statement
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: for the sake of optics. He's trying to make a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: public statement so that they can't get out of it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And we wind up seeing the conversation that he had
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: with Smoker where the Marines took credit for how Crocodile
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: was taken down when actually it was the straw hats,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and Smoker is like, this whole system that we've got
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: in place is garbage, and those dudes came in and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: saved everybody, and then the Marines wanted to act like
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: they hadn't let that whole bullshit happen. It's nonsense, And
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: so Fujitura is like, Okay, we'll find a way to
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: like make sure that's not how it happens next time.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: So with all this backstory added into it, much much
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: more satisfying.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, no, I like we just see a little
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: bit of Smoker and Tashii as well. Yeah, and they're
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: like on the way to wake up Punk with the kids,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and I just like it because I don't know, like
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Smoker SEMs to have a lot of friends in the marine,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: like people listen to him, like the Eye Sky as well,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: like in the past said that they were friends, and
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I mean he saved him, like now Kusan Cusan, That's
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. And also he No, I like,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Smoker has like some friends even though he is not
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: agreeable with how things are done, and I just kind
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: of love it, you know, like like I feel like
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: he's the one that stirs things up and everybody in
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the background is like yeah, m hmm, like he's like.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's He's one of those people that he's got
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: like this weird charisma, despite the fact that he does
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: not try to cultivate that at all. It's like a
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: charisma despite himself. He's so ornery and and silent so
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: much of the time, but he's got such like competent
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and presence that people are just like, this guy's onto something. Yeah,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and I just keep like, I really enjoy Smoker, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that he's still been like in the mix,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: but I want him to be more of a part
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: of things even still than he has been, because I
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: find him he's just very compelling. Ta Shigi being the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: one that has to look after the kids. I'm side
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: eyeing you so hard for this soda. Oh my god,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of course, but uh, at the very least, I'm glad
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that we got a check in with them as well,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: see how the kids are doing all that stuff. Oh
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and Bernandane the chat says Smoker is super authentic, which
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I think is why he is so liked. I think
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you're right that people to a degree, people can sense that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I say to a degree because our current president would
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: really be lie my point. But I think what I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: mean is more about in person, when you are directly
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: under somebody's command or you meet somebody, you can get
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a better sense of them. And I think that he
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: is so no nonsense and to like, when you're the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Marines are like very much nonsense a lot of the time.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: It's probably refreshing to some of these dudes to find
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: another guy who is just like no artifice, no bullshit
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I'm doing. I think my job is about yeah exactly,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just scrubbing through this episode to see anything else.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Is what did you want to talk about next?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like not a thing that we get,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Like the cutaway is like the worst generation. I don't know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: but for me, it's like at sixteen minutes or something.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: But I don't know how it's on your end. But
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: we see like Bonnie, like truly Bonnie, she's like the
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: pink her girl, and she can't change her age and
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: the age of other people like we saw that before,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: which still is like I feel like it's a great power,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: like a weird combat power.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I had forgotten that this was a thing, and it
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: took me. Like they give you very helpfully, the little
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: banner at the bottom to tell you who everybody is.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Because Bonnie's always eating is also another thing with her. Yeah,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: but yeah, she never felt exactly like she was friends
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: with the straw hats, but she never felt like somebody
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: who was out there trying to fuck with them too much.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And she seems admiring of them. She's looking at the
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: news updates and it's just like, no shit, good for
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you guys. It's kind of delightful.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then we have oh, I never know how
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: to say his name, A ruth. I fel like the
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: monk kind of guy who is on the sky Island.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: This was so weird. Yeah, will you please describe the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: scene for our listeners, because I feel like there's a
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: dude who turns up towards the end of it and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: it's a yeah, there's the whole vibe is weird.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, like we see like the clouds,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: it's not Skybead, it's not the island that the straw
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: has been on. And he's just chilling there surrounded by
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know, girls who tend to his wounds. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm not sure what's happening here? Is it
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: like are they massaging? Is it? I don't know?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: M hm. And basically he comes and he like cruise crew,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the people of his group came and they are like
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: screaming the monster here or something, and this huge shadow
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: is like stumping toward them from the they're from far away,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: and then it cuts away and I think that's all
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: we get.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: He tries to say something like trust me, it's just
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a bird, and I was like, sir, can you please
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: open your fucking eyes and sit up and take take
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: notice of what is happening here? I implore you. But yeah,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Are we supposed to know who it
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: is that's coming at him?
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Not really, I'm gonna tell you. We will, Like now
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: we get in a transition kind of moment, like oftentimes
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: between the islands, we get like check ins, and we
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: will have like some more check ins with the worst
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: generations as well, you know, like to kind of see
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: where what they are up to at the times. And yeah,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: but for right now, we don't know.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, who else do we stop in and see? I'm
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: scrolling through this now.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: One. Yeah, Captain Kid, this is like the three pirates
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: who came together and also made an alliance. Captain Kid,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Basil Hawkins, the tarot card guy I don't know if
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: you remember him.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, with the lines under his eyes, and then that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: weird double elbow.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Guy up yeah, who had like music powers, like he's weird.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: One.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and apparently they are like, Okay, the Strawheads and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: law go after Kaido, but our Twergart is thanks, like
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: they want to go after Shanks. So again we don't
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: see anything more about that, but it's kind of like,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: do you think they would have like what would Shanks
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: do with them? Would it work?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Are they trying to kill him because they want to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: take his Does he have a devil fruit?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: No, he is one of the four Emperors Shanks.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: They just want to take him out like for the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: power move.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, basically, Okay.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: It's so interesting that Shane's got where he got and
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: he has not had a devil fruit. We know he
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: can use hockey, so I'm assuming that's like the way
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: he has made this happen for himself. It's just like
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: people in this universe are so strong because of devil
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: fruits that being able to get that far without one,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: it's almost unbelievable.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: But well, we have Rayley who definitely had not eaten one,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the guy who trained Loofy. Yeah, and he was the
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: right hand man of Roger, And as far as I know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: we don't know Roger if he had anything, so that's true.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: And never even stopped to ask if Roger had one.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I guess I was just assuming he did for reasons
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: like the same reason of just In order to get
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: anywhere in this universe, you probably have to have one,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: but nobody's ever mentioned it, and so it's still possible.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I guess that he has when he just like kind
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: of kept it under wraps or whatever the ability was.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe wasn't like a combat power necessarily, But yeah, that's
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: so that I never really stopped to think about that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: That's true. I have to say, Ace would spank all
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: of these clowns.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I mean a.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Right, Shanks, thanks, Shanks would spank all of these clowns.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I want them to go ahead and try it, because
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the same reason that I am surprised he is where
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: he is is the reason that I wouldn't fuck with him.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: You don't even have a devil for power, and you're
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: in You're one of the Emperor. You are not to
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: be trifled with. You got something going on for you,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and I don't need to know what it is to
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: respect it and back away slowly. So go ahead, go ahead, guys,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: bring him your smoke, and let's see what happens. Let's see.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, especially because they're all very annoying in their way,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Like who is annoying? Just because he's like ugly And yeah,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: he's just like unpleasant to look at and just like
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: weird the tarot card guy. There's something very pretentious about him.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so aloof so above everything, it seems like.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like Captain Kidd just is a cocky asshole.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I would be very interested in seeing all
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: of them get slapped down.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe we will. And I feel like that's it. I mean, no,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: we see Drake is the last one. He's like in
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: the snowy area, and oh yeah.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I forgot about him. And there's a weird thing about
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Do Flamingo having killed his dad.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he the devil fruit that law ate the me
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: that was in the clutches of like some I feel
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: like pirates as well, and Corason stole it from them,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: you know. And those pirates are like Drake was there
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and the father was like the leader of those pirates.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, And.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: The story goes like that Drake fled when Do Flamingo
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: showed up and was able to escape and his father
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: got killed by.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, I'm sorry if you. My dogs
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: start growling and scared the shit out of me. He's asleep,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: dead asleep, but he's growling in his sleep. Then do
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: you hear him.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: You can't hear him.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: He seems so loud to me. Sorry, just like it's
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: just startled me. I'm just not expecting that. Oh my god,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I forgot about Murder Machine Killer from the South Blue
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: A Combat Crew. And this guy's like eating spaghetti or
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: something with his mask on, and he's like sucking the
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: noodles into the holes. I did not realize that that
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: was what was happening for a second, that that was
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: him eating, And I was like, what the fuck is
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: this man's face made out of? Like I thought that
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: he just had like a tentacle face and this was
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: like little feelers coming out of his face, and that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: he wore this mask to like cover his shame, but
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: also the holes were to allow the freedom of movement
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: of the tentacles. I had a real whole, like monstrous
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: mental image for a second before I clocked that they
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: are eating and that's what's happening.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Your girl was not with it on that one.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: It's fair, No he is. I mean maybe he has
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: under the mask something horrific.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: It's true, it's fair. Yeah, we haven't seen under there.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like this is all for this episode.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of jumping around.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we were pretty much just like touching base
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: with people.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing that I want to say, we see
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: a kind of like this is like again in the
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: more in the beginning, Sorry, he talks to like the
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: five Elders, and right, yes, as far as we know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: the five Elders are like the the highest governmental power,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: let's say, but they say do flamingo pulled? That's done
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: even above them. So basically the Celester Dregons, they like
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: he got in contact with them and was like, hey, bitches,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: you're going to do whatever I'm going to tell you
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Which is really surprising because I didn't think he had
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: any sway with them at all. I thought that they
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: had completely disowned him, and so now finding out that like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: evidently he still had some pull with them somehow, I
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: am side eyeing him so much because a great deal
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of his like his crankiness as a character was about
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: being disowned by his family and not treated like anything.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: And apparently you were still able to like bully them
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: into doing stuff and allowing you to. So he's still
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: like using the privilege that comes with being a celestial
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: dragon as much as he can, but he's trying to
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: pretend that he just doesn't have it anymore, and so
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: he had to do what he had to do because
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: it all got taken away from him. Apparently didn't all
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: get taken away from you like you aren't. He doesn't
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: have access to it the way he would like. He
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't have access to it in the structure of you know,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: how this normally functions. But uh, it just felt very
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: much like he was trying to pretend he's totally divorced
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: from this system, and evidently he isn't. So that's interesting. No,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: there's Colin bullshit on you a little bit there, Dophie.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: That's fair. I like we're just speaking about Dopie. He's
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: not really in these episodes. But this is again kind
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: of the end of the arc. Can I ask you overall,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: how do you see him maybe as a character and
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: as a villain, Like how would you kind of like
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: rank him or like put him?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I think I feel very complicated about do Flamingo, and
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I don't really. I think part of it is there
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: was a sense when we get the reveal of who
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Joker is that I was supposed to have like a
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: strong reaction to it that apparently other people had because
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: they I think it's just by the time you get
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: around to those reveals, people have rewatched the series enough
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: times that they have grown attached to characters in a
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: way that I don't have happened when I'm covering things
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: this way. So for me, it was just like, oh,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: that weird guy. Okay, well, sure he's a joker whatever,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: And it was not much. So I think my reaction,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: because I felt like I should have I was supposed
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: to in quotes, have reacted differently. It affected how I
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: saw him to begin with, because there was like this
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: reveal that just didn't quite land, and then his overall
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: motivation of just being like I just want to destroy
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: this world. It's a little bit too vague, you know.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: He's just like, well, they disown me, and they value
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: the power they have over the world, so my goal
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: is to destroy it. It's it's very nebulous. What does
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: that even mean? Really? To destroy this world? You're out
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: here like making arm steels and selling smile fruits, and
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not I think that this is all meant to be.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: He is assisting in the in the of lots of
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: people by allowing pirates to come in and destroy societies
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: and villages and take things and kill. And so I
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: think that if I had known more of that stuff
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: that he was involved with and how much of a
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: like armstealer and kind of at the top of the
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: food chain with a lot of the more despicable pirates,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I think I would have been more impressed earlier on
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: than I was. And so by the time, like we
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: actually get into it with him, I was sort of
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: whatever about him. But then his power is really creative
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and very fun to watch and can be exploited in
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: such a variety of ways that makes him more interesting.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that really counts because that's his power.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: It's not really him, but it is.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I would also say like he has kind of that
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: was an interesting relationship with his crew, Like we I
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: think you talked about this before, Like does he like
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: truly loved like love them or like want to protect
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: them or is it like you are mine and therefore
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I nobody gets to fuck with you because you're mine.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: You know, He's a fucked up character, And I'm gonna
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: tell you, Like the fan base, everybody is really funny.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of girlies or also men who
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: are like I can change him.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Of course there are I should really have seen that coming.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: And I love it. I don't know if I just
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: find it funny. It's not always like instance sity, but
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: there's like a wipe going in the fandom of like, yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: he's fucked up, but he's also he just needs the
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: right girl on his side and he will be great,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: you know, Oh my god.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not against that kind of energy always
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: with certain characters, because like I get it, you know,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: but he is just one where.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Like I.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Definitely hold that energy for like Crocodile, you know, I Crocodile,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I see it, but do Flamingo just feels like a
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: privileged asshole having a tantrum just but for twenty years,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't feel like somebody who's like I
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: got here because I'm so competent and think things through
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: so well. I got here because people around me just
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: decided I was a god and decided to throw themselves
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: behind me. And he wouldn't be where he is without
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the devotion of the people under him and the powers
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: they have. So I don't have that kind of feeling
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: of being impressed with him because so much of where
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: he currently is has relied on just being seen as superior,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: which doesn't that's nothing. You're not bringing anything to the table.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: It's just an accident of how you were born and
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: where you were born. And some people like drinking that
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: kool aid. And he's the epitome of like privileged rich kid.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: So there's nothing about that that I find attractive in
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: any way. Like, the whole vibe for him is super
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: toxic and coming from this really gross stratusfy of privilege
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that is the opposite of what I would ever want
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: to like, No, thank you, No, it's a I'm not
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: saying that he is not competent in his way, but
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like he doesn't have to be because he
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: had so many other people like covering his back that
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and they all had such bonkers powers that even if
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: they're not that competent, their powers make it so that
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: they can cover way more bases than the average person.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: He just sort of lucked into a lot of stuff.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I mean he also apparently has the
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: what's it called the conquerurse hockey as well, you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: and and that is I mean, it is something that
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: you can train but as far as we know, it
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: is this is the only hockey type that you either
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: have or you don't have it. The auto hockey you
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: can train to get it, but this one is kind
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: of like, yeah, you can still train it to get
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: better with it, but you cannot train it to get
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: it in the first place. And that again seems to
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: be luck based as far as we know.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like if if there were, like if
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: there were a way that he managed to put himself
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: in the path of something by working hard for it
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: or doing something very daring or whatever, then I would
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: be more impressed. But it just feels all like you
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: just got lucky at a lot of things, brah. And
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: so yeah, he's I don't like dislike him as a
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: character as a villain, like being the privileged asshole having
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: a tantrum works quite well, you know. So like as
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: a villain, that's fine, But he's definitely not like one
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: of my faves or anything. I just he is easy
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: see the hate and absolutely that's fine. I'm good with that.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know who had to work to get
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: to where he is.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how much like I would like to talk about
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: like chronologically if that's okay with you. Yeah, yeah, let's
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: do that with Sabo.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the way they tell us the story is
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: like all over the place. It bounces back and forth
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: in time like a million times.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he is. I want to know how much
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: do you remember of like the backstory with Lufy and Asena, especially,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: like do we need a big recap for that or no?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I felt like the recap that we got within the
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: episode was plenty of just like they lived on the
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: outskirts and the place was planning on burning the whole
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: area down because it was of homeless and criminals, so
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: fuck them, and Sabo had he was from a rich
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: family and would sneak out and he finds out about
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: this scheme, wants to go and warn them, and he
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: winds up trying to run away on a ship because
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: he does not want to go back to his parents
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: and gets shot at because he's flying a pirate flag,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: even though it's very funny when I had forgotten that
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: it's just an s with like crossbones behind it, so
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: like there's not even a skull. Come on, Sabot, put
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: a little hat with the goggles on it. Do that
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: for your little Yeah, I don't know.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is kind of like where we get like
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: the new part that we weren't aware of is like
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: basically Dragon fishes him out of the water mm hmm,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: and we see Eva again on the ship so excited.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: No, I was not expecting it, and I had forgotten
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: because Eva has told us that, like, yeah, I knew Dragon,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: we were buds, Like I had forgotten all about this,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: and it was like there was a part of me
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: that my my immediate reaction was like, oh, Sabo got
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: to know Eva. Oh that's nice, Like I want everybody
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: to have a chance to hang out with Eva, So
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: you got privileged buddy to have this this time. But yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: it's like he he ran into Dragon earlier when he
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: had found out about the fire that was going to
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: be set and just yells to him about how this
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: is all bullshit. It's unclear in that scene if saw
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: if Sabo telling him is new information for Dragon, or
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: if Dragon is here because he knows that this is
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: going to happen. Because like when Dragon shows up on
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: UH in Lowtown and like saves Loofy, it felt like
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: he was there for that purpose for Loofy, and maybe
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: that is what he was here for also that like,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: you know, this is his son and somebody is threatening him,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't come out and greet Loofy. He doesn't
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: tell him I'm your dad.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Hi.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: He doesn't ever actually have contact with him, but he
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: seems to at least try to keep Loufy alive. So
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: because he just he seemed more startled when Sabo said
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I need to get out of here or else I'm
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: never going to be free than he was startled by
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Sabo being like they're going to light whole place on fire. So, yeah,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to think about that, but.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I would think that probably with his intelligence network, he
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: kind of knew that she was going down.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was like super surprised. He was like
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: this kid hates displayed like he was like so surprised
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: that like, oh my god, like you feel the same
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: way I do.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: It was very like what a perfect person to run into.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I thought that he was going to help a little
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: bit more in the moment than he does. But I
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: guess for the story to work, it can't like he
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: can't help very much, or else we would have gotten
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: wind of him earlier, and we also would have maybe
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: suspected that he saved Sabo too.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Perhaps yeah, I.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Don't know, but I think that it was like just
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: meant to be more of a surprise, so a lot
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: was kept under wraps because of them.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And I feel like, also, this is kind of the
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: reason why that they bring Saba on the ship and
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: he wakes up and he has lost his memories and
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Dragon were not him alone, but they decide to basically
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: keep Sabo. And the thing is says, I don't want
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: to go back, and I think.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: He can't remember anything except that this place is not
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the vibe.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like Dragon was like, oh, this
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: is the thing that you said before you lost your memories,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: and even after you're still saying the same thing. So yes,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: you know, like if he had not met him before,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: maybe he was just like, oh, you lost your memories,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: you're crazy. You don't know what you're talking about.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: That's a good point, but yeah, that makes sense of
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: just using that as like a metric of Okay, well,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I know that this was already what you wanted, so
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: it's not unethical for me to get you out of here,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: because yeah, Eva is the one who is just like
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: you're a child, and this is very irresponsible. We can
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: just like take you with us, and normally I would
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: be very much like you are correct, that is unethical
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: put this child back. But this all works out very well.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think it's the better choice for Sado, Like
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: he is happier.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: And him having the memory loss explains why he doesn't
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: come and see Loofy any sooner, because that was the
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: thing that I was like, why would he have stayed
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: away for so long? You know? And I didn't have
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: the impression that he was kept prisoner anywhere for you know,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: a decade or whatever, So I was just like, what
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: could possibly have kept him? And it's just that he
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't remember his connection to Loofy until Ace's death, which
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: is awful.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as memory losses go in stories, I
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: feel like ODA handled this well. Like sometimes it can
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: feel like a cheap cop out, I'm going to be honest,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: but for me, at least, it did not feel like
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: this in Here with Sorrow, I just accepted it. It
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, yeah, that's what happened, and we would
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: roll with it.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I totally agree. I think that the trauma of like
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: getting blown up and everything, him just being rescued and
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: being like mostly fine would have been a little bit
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: too easy. So him having memory loss, it at least
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: feels like some very serious consequences to getting attacked like that,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: which I wanted, some real consequences. And I would also
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: buy it just as an injury. Like as much as
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: in stories amnesia resulting from a knock on the head
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: is overused, it is something that can happen. And he
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: was a kid and he was alone on a ship
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: and it was like he came very very close to drowning,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: and that can also cause brain damage because of lack
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: of oxygen to your brain, that can kill certain parts
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: of it. So overall, I was totally fine with it.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with that at all, and
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: especially because it doesn't feel like it was such a
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: plot point that got exploited. It's just he doesn't have
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: his memory, and eventually he does remember, and now he's
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: back now that he has remembered, it's not like, oh,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: he doesn't remember, and now he's back in Louvie's life,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: but he still doesn't remember him, and he's being plotted
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: against or he's plotting against Louvie because he doesn't know
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: they're really brothers. And we have to wait until something
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: happens that jogs's memory. Like, there's no drama that's just
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: centering around that plot point, so it doesn't feel like
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: real contrived.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I think him being off camera, so to speak, for
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: most of that time helps with the the feeling of
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: it just being like, yeah, I'll just accept this, it's fine.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Mm yeah, we get okay. There's one little scene I
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: want to talk about that happens in the presence is
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: everybody wants to go to sleep, and Bartolomeo is to
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Kevin Dish like, you will not sleep here with us,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: just like.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: You guys. There is a point later where the camera
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: slow pans where everybody sleeping and he has turned into
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Hakuma and is driving around with his crazy face trying
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: to get out, And I lost my mind. I thought
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: that we were just going to be like, oh, BARTI
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Lomeo is a little bit paranoid, now understandable, but then
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: we like get no confirmation barts of Lameo was the
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: only smart one that remembered what this motherfucker is and
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: was not playing. Yes, that cracked me up. I do
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: not expect to see him just wiggling around all burritoed
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: up in a fucking chain that killed me. That killed me.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Everything was barts of la Mao is so good.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's best boy. He's one of the fan favorites.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: I can already.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like his wanted poster. I think he's
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: one that I probably probably was like sold out by
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: the time I went to that thing, but I'm sure
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I could find it online. Maybe I don't have a
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: good place, like I want a spot behind me in
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: my office where I can like display fandom stuff, but
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: there's no room in here. I don't have like a
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: space like I have Chopper over here and and he
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: you can only see him a little bit right now.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: But I need to to find a way because it
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: would be very fun.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: What about now you want to display it? I wanted
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: to say, maybe the ceiling. I don't know what your
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: ceiling situation is.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Don't feel like that would where the ceiling. It's one
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: of those old it's not exactly popcorn, but it's that
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: kind of like crumbly unstable and things will just fall.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I think unless I got it really good in there,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I could have things just hanging behind me from the
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I have a curtain that's over a doorway here, and
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I could hang things from the pole, the curtain pole,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: but now we're getting real, real jankie, so.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Probably not anyway, Okay. I just want to keep from
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: bringing that up.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Though, because I would not have remembered to do it,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: and that I literally burst out laughing when that slowpan,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: because it starts on just like you know a few
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: regular people, so you just think it's gonna be whatever,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and then eventually when you see him, you're just like
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: what and nobody is acknowledging it, and like the narrator
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: is just talking over it and there's nothing there's nobody
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: is referencing it or anything. It's just this fucking like
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: site gag. It was very very well done.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, we get a compilation of Sabo training
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: or being trained, and I also like that we see
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: that he studies, like they also like it's not not
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: just fighting, it's also like learning is part of it.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I like that, and I think at some point, I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's this episode or next, but we
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: also see Kuma. I don't know if you expect him to.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Say no, I did not. This motherfucker challenges Kuma, and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is why I could not be
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: one of these kids. They had battles in way that
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I just did not as a child. No, thank you.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: They and he gets fucking chucked and then you just
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: see him go, well he's tough, but and he just
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: like gets right back up and is clearly going to
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: go in again. And I was like, could not be me. Friend.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Ocauz Kula is what would you say, like sixty times
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: the size of the average adult somewhere in there, like
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: and Sabo is about a third the size of the
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: average adult. So yeah, I uh, there's a there's a
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: lot of faces in this crew that we haven't seen
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: in a while.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, he made he made he surrounds basically, yeah,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: I think, oh no. Yeah. The last part is just
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: that we we're not just but we see in action,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: like how he helped like infiltrate there. I don't know
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: even what it is, like some sort of fortress.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forgot about that because we really don't
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: get any details. It's just like her submission that he
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: went on and here's how he did, and YadA YadA,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: just to show us that he's like a valuable asset.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that's kind of it for the second episode,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I mean the second that the third episode kind of
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: go together.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the third episode, I was really surprised because very
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: little is added to the story, like considering that it's
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: called the untold Story, it's like, it's just it's the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: untold story behind their reunion and that's really just that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: one conversation that lasted like two minutes. So I thought
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: it was going to be there would be a lot more,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: and it just kind of retreads a lot because we
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: start with him not remembering anything, and eventually somebody mentioning
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: they bring up Firefist and he says Ace and they're like, so,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: what are you like having memory issues again? And he's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: looking at the newspaper and freaking out, and then we
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: have a series of flashback moments and it was so
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: funny because full disclosure, guys, there's a spreadsheet that Florian
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: gave me about what episodes to watch, but he had
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: forgotten to update it because we had covered four episodes
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: in a previous recording, so it was saying that I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: needed to watch technically only two for today, and then
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Florian got back to me and was like three if
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: you can, but it was late enough that I wasn't
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: sure I would be able to do it, and I
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: was able to fit the view in between this episode
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: and the previous one that I recorded, and I had
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: to run and pee while I was watching, but I
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: was listening through my headphones while it played on my computer,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: so I was like, I'm just gonna run and pee
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: and leave my headphones in and listen and come back.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: And I didn't miss anything because it's such a long
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: period of him just standing there looking shocked with tears
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: in his eyes as we slowly go through memories and
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: all of this is filler. It's all just you know,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: to like to draw the whole scene out. So it
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: was so funny because I was like, oh, I don't
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: know if I'm going to have time to watch this thing.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: And it felt very much like I could have just
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: fast forwarded through this entire part and it would have
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: been fine. I wouldn't even have missed anything. Because the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: express we get so many repetitions of the like all
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: you need is to be brothers is to to share
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: some soake together. We get that scene like it feels
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: like six times in the course of these two episodes,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's only like twice.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: But I find it an o but funny. The people
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: like have the newspaper and they're like, Dragon, you have
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: a son like his Oh.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: My god, yes. I Like it was a combo of like,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: this can't be right, and then realizing like none of
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: his crew knows, and then when he's just like, oh, yeah,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: that's true. He doesn't. He's not like he is hiding it,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: but when he's asked the direct question, he's honest, which
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of that.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Well, who is the same way it's it's but does.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Looviy hide things or just I guess he's not. I
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: guess like I'm assuming Dragon's hiding things, but like he
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: also just doesn't. I don't know him very well, so
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: it might be the same thing where Looviy it's just like, wait,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: didn't ask Yeah, so yeah, I didn't tell you. It
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: never came up. Why would I mention this? It is it?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: I guess it's more like that.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: That's very funny. It never occurred to me that it
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: was like literally just it never came up. I thought
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: it was him like actively hiding it for his son's safety,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: but him coping to it that quick. It doesn't really
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: work together. So yeah, maybe that is all it is.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: I mean. Also, Garp is also kind of the same way.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: He kind of he tried to keep it a secret,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: but he also was kind of like the one who
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: spilt the beatings basically back in Water seven when it
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: first was revealed, he was like, Oh, yeah, that's your father,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: by the way, in front of God God.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: That he just literally says it in front of everybody, Garb,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: What a fucking maniac you are. What's he up to?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: I don't we don't see him.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: In any of this. I wouldn't expected to see a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: check in with him because this is loofy. Yeah, and
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: him reacting to this, you know, I don't even know.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Have we seen him since the Timescape?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think so either. And Kobe as.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, yeah, I want to know. I want to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: like this news had to have reached him. This is
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: a big deal, So I would love to know what
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: he makes of this. That's uh man.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Anyway, Okay, okay, yeah, we have.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Not really talked about the straw hats and Sabo like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: he is basically telling him this tape, and I personally
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: just have to say, I like this, like how they
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: talk and it's just like this chill wipe in this,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: like Kevin, I don't know, I like it. I don't know.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: What do you think about this?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: I'm always like I'm notorious, I think at this point
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: for loving hangout moments with characters that we have gotten
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: to know, it's the best. Like I love seeing what
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: people do in crises, of course, but I also just
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: want to see what are you like when it's not
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: an emergency situation?
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: What are you like?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: It's like apparently there's like a trope with anime, the
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: beach Party episode something like that. It's called I don't know.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Normally it's just like, yeah, the beach just to be
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: each episode or beach vacation episode.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, which like with this it doesn't really because they're
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: always on a boat or on beaches, so it's like
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: sort of moot. But I have kind of like with
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: the opening of every new arc, there's new animation of
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: everybody hanging out somewhere and you know, Sandy cooking and
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Nami looking at the map and everybody just like and
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: I always will watch that opening and just be like,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: why can't we actually have an episode like this? Though?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Can't we just actually do this? So this is part
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: of what I love about the end of arcs is
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: that we do finally get a little bit of this.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: But the problem with it is oftentimes everybody isn't together.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: They are with characters that we have met along the way,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: separated in the midst of a really big party, and
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: so you get to see them interact with their new friends,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: but you don't really get them like interacting with one another.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: So that was what I liked about this one, was
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: that there are a few newbies in the mix as well,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: but for the most part, it's like probably like sixty
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: percent straw hats, thirty percent newbies, and that's it. And
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: it's a really small crowd in the little cottage. It's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Heiros's cottage, right, I think, yes, And so yeah, the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: dynamic is just a lot more intimate, and you know,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: we have little jokes later on about like somebody drank
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: all the booze and somebody else ate all the food
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: and Zorro's pissed, and Lufy's gonna wake up and he's
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: going to be pissed. And I would not mind if
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: this went on for longer, to be honest, which it
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: might because like, by the end of this we're not done.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Lufy hasn't. I think he's only just barely looken up
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: and says like I want me, And that's kind of
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: almost it from him, if I'm remembering.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Right, Maybe I don't. Maybe at the very Endia, because
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: when Sabo leaves, he's still asleep. Definitely. Yeah, I what
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: you freak about it?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: For that? I'll say this that he leaves while Lufy's
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: asleep low key unforgettable.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: I would be real Roman, Yeah, me too. I don't
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: think Lufy will be mad, but I will be mad
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: on his behalf honestly.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like, if you know Lufy well enough to
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: know that, he wouldn't be mad, Okay, and maybe Salbo does.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe he does know him well enough, but like just
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: in a vacuum, that just seems like such a dick move.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: He thought you were dead for how long? Like ten years?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, about like maybe even more, and you.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Turn up out of nowhere and then tell his friends
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: the whole story and hang out and have drinks and
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: chill with them and then bail before he is awake.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Like that sucks. I would be really mad and he
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: went he flies off on the top of some birds.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: What is this? It feels like some more of the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: ring shit where everybody keeps saying they should have just
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: rowed the eagles to Mount Doom.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: I was this was like the most confusing for me
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: because for a while I was like, Oh, that's his
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: devil fruit power, and then I at some point was no,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: he ate the firefruit. Just what is going on?
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: And it's not even like mentioned maybe it will be eventually,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, where did the birds come from? How
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: do you know them? Why are they letting you like
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: all of this? It feels like it should be some
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: kind of superpower. And I was for a moment like
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: is this why he were the like aviation goggle or what?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there's no acknowledgment of what a wild move
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: this is. And like I can't fault them for not
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: bringing it up earlier because the bird cage was up,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: so he probably couldn't have done anything, Like if these
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: birds are friends of his, he couldn't have reached them.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: But also, what is happening here?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: But there's nobody, like we see there's the audience, but
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: there's nobody around to make a comment about it, you know,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Like it's and is not going to be like and
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: now I'm going to call my bird friends and flyway.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: And you know why why should he say that out loud?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Like it's just up to us for guessing, you know?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was like the bird's part of the
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: revolutionary army? Did the like dragon? Is he so charismatic
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: that he even got the birds on his side?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: The eagles?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're fighting for them. I'd love it.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but that's kind of it. Is there
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: anything else if you want to talk about otherwise? I
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: would kind of ask for predictions, But.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think if I could swear there was
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: something else that I'm just like scrubbing through things real
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: quick to try and see if there's anything that I missed.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: The way that Lufi attacks him when he realizes who
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: he is and wraps his entire body around his head
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: is very funny. Oh my god. And then Sabo fucking
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: loves hanging up on people. What is the deal with
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: this dude? I can't remember the name of this character
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: that he hangs up on here, but this guy is
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: about to turn and take his anger out on the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: dude standing next to him, which I'm pretty sure is
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: what Kowala did earlier, like the same guy that she
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: punched him because he just happened to be standing there
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: and Sabo hung up on her and so she was pissed. Sabo,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: you have got to start thinking about this guy and
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: how he he is taking all your beatings for you
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: and just stay on the line for God's sake. It's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: it's kind of a fun like weird character trait because
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: for the most part, out of the three brothers, Sabo
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: feels weirdly like the most what how do I want
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: to say this? He's the most uh, evenly tempered and
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: well developed of them. You know, Lufy's kind of bonkers,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Ace had rage issues. Sabo is most stable. I would say, Yeah,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: so you got to give him something that he's like
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit of an asshole or a weirdo about
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: and just having him be really cocky and hanging up
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: on people all the time is kind of a funny
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: one because it's just a weird you know what I mean.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: It's not something that I.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Would think of, Yeah, and it is like infuriating, but
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: it is not like so bad that you dislike him exactly.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: It's it's just feels like, why there was no need
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: for that, but yeah, it's not. It doesn't feel like
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: it's interfering with anything. If at some point later he
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: should have stayed on and he hangs up and it
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: screws up a mission, then I'm going to be annoyed. Okay,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: So for right now, I'm gonna treat this as like
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: an endearing foible. But if it starts to get in
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: the way of stuff later, it's gonna cease being cute
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be irritated. So just keep watch your
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: steps out. That's all I'm saying. But yeah, that's the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: only other thing that I really wanted to mention because
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: he had done that with Koala, and I had just
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: thought it was the stress of the moment until this episode,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: and then he does it again and I was like, oh, okay,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: so that's like his thing.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Yea, it is.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: As far as predictions.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, go ahead and beg let's begin with general
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: like you think we would have seen him again?
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, Like this show, I don't feel like you
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: don't see anybody never again almost ever. Even even people
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: that are like kind of nothing sometimes will pop up
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I forgot about this guy. You
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: know what is what? What is the name of the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: pirate captain that wanted to play games? They played like
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: the the the race.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Game Foxy Foxy, that's right.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not mind Foxy pop back up again
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: because that guy was weird. That was such a weird
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: whole thing. Didn't you have like a French accent or something.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like something was going on there, Like honestly,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: he was an enigma in every way.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was a guy that I'm like, where's
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: he at? I wouldn't mind seeing him again. We got
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: a like a brief moment of seeing Buggy in a
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: previous episode as well, like just for a second, I
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: can't remember even what was going on at the time.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so, like anybody, I just take it for granted.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Of course we'll see them again eventually. It just have
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: to wait long enough, you.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Know, Okay, good? Then the next thing? What will happen
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: on this island? In the sense of each show has
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: gotten the what's the task to go after Lufian law?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: How do you feel like that will shake out? Like
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: normally a party is not an extent, but is it
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: going to happen or like.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: I just don't know, Like he should. He's not gonna
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: go after them, not after all this, He's not gonna
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: do it. There's no way that you make the big
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: public statement that he made and then you turn around
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: and arrest these guys. He like, there's just no way.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: So he may. I can't even decide, like how hard
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: he's gonna go with defying them, because he could just
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: straight up be like, no, I'm not going after them,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: fuck you, I quit. But he doesn't do that in
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: the moment, and I think that would have been the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: time to do it, or if he wants to quit,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: but he's just gonna wait and fuck him up a
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: little bit before he quits. Maybe he's like, I have
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: no intention of going along with this, but I'm gonna
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: pretend I'm still part of it so that I can
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: give them the time to escape because somebody thinks I'm
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: on it. You know, I just feel like giving him
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: this assignment is a mistake. Why would you give the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: dude who publicly apologized the job of arresting the people
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: that fixed the situation. You have to know that he
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: isn't going to obey you the way that you intend.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it doesn't seem like you have him under
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: control basically at the moment.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, so like, I don't know. I think
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: that he's this is this is the sort of thing
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: where it's like it could go a number of ways.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: He could. Oh, I didn't see them. I'm gonna go
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: try and catch them. I saw them get in their boat.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: You know he's blind.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: Please, Oh my god, I totally forgot. That's even better.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't see him. Really weird they I didn't see
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: hide nor hair of any of them.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I looked everywhere, and you sent a.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Blind man to catch them. I don't know what you expect.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. I can't really ever forgot that. Or
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: you could like, hey, guys, have a party. Go ahead
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: and enjoy yourselves tomorrow. I'm bringing you in. And then
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: you make it so that they have their party and
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: they know to take off before morning, which is what
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: I'm the most expecting. I guess if he does try
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: to arrest them, I will be genuinely shocked. I will
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: not see it coming because it just doesn't it doesn't
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: make sense, it does not align with anything else. So
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: if he does do that, I have to I will
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: assume he has some other plan that I just don't know,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: you know, but Fernidez says, you know, ever the brightest
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: candle on the cake, why would he understand? Fujiitura probably
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: won't do it. I have never heard the brightest candle
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: on the cake. I've heard so many versions of that,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: like not the sharpest tool in the shed, but brightest
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: candle on the cake. I don't know why, but I
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: really like that one, probably just because it involves cake,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, yeah, so thank you for that one, Brinadette.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: But also, yeah, you're right, like Akay, you knew he's
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: a real meat head, you know, Yeah, he's a guy
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: that if, like I saw him at the gym, he
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: would definitely be the guy grunting really loud with every set,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: wearing like and looking in the mirror and flexing really hard,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: all greased up, like, yeah, he's not to say that
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: that inherently means that you are not smart. Everybody, don't
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: come at me, but you know the stereotype that I'm
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: pointing at here.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Absolutely well. And then the last prediction I want to
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: ask you about, but you talked about this before, What
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: the fuck is going on with Nami sanjy chopper.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Raha I cannot believe that we haven't checked in with
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: them yet. How many episodes has it been? Now? This
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: is like a whole year worth of show, right that?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in real time they were like missing for.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: You, I would be pissed. How did everybody else feel
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: about this?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: People were confused? Definitely it was, but I'm just kind
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: of you know, it has been like more than like
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: fifty episodes at least, so like more than a year. Yeah, yeah, no,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say it's I don't know, Like I
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: like Nami, I like Brooke a lot as well, so
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: I was like, well, my favorites, but it kind of yeah,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: maybe it will make sense in a way when we
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: see what's going on there. But do you how much
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: time do you give the show until we meet them again?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: Like I really I can't even guess, because if you
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: had told me by now that we still wouldn't have
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: checked in with him, I wouldn't have believed it. I
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: every week thought, maybe next week we're going to reach
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: a point because like what I kind of had expected
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: was that they would play some key role eventually in
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: taking down Do Flamingo, that they would go find somebody
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: or get help or something and turn around and come back,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: and there would be a moment of the cavalry arriving,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: like Gandolf looking look to the east on the third day.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: And so I just kept thinking, and now like shit's
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: over and we're talking about rebuilding and fixing things, and
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: they're still not back. So I genuinely have no idea,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: like I have to assume at this point we're going
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: to end the arc and not see them again. So
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: I think probably if we haven't seen them by now,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: we won't for like another six episodes minimum. I'm saying
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: that the arc is gonna wrap within six episodes, and
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's true, but because like we're at
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: the tail end here, but it does seem like there's
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: still kind of a lot to do. I don't know.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm distracted, because there is a huge wasp
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: in here. Holy shit. We're just gonna pretend we don't
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: see it and hope that it somehow makes us invisible
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: to it. That's how it works.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, no, exactly. The feelings that you have, I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: feel like I have like they will come back, and
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: then it's like I feel like we're done here, So
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: I guess we go after them, and I like, what
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: have you been up to?
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: And now, Yeah, I don't think that there has been
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: any arc so far where one group has been so
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: thoroughly left out entirely. We will have arcs where we
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: spend a lot of time with a couple characters and
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: the others are left out like for a while, but
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: they're always brought back into things and always made part
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: of the big moment at the end. So it just
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: feels really bizarre to not have them here when we're
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: celebrating our victory. You know. I don't know if this
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: is like just a side effect of the way that
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Oda wanted things to go for another reason, or if
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: he was purposely like what if they aren't there for
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: this moment, or if he even considered it, But yeah,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: it just feels like I think that's part of why
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: I keep feeling like the arc can't wrap too much
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: with like too soon, because they're not back yet and
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: they have to be part of it, right, And then
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm second guessing myself like maybe they don't.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it is like really it is like
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: a switch up, honestly, Like it is kind of like
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: you're so used to how things go, yeah, no, things
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: are changing kind of and yeah, he is. I mean
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: looking back at it, however, I'm also kind of like, Okay,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: this arc heads so much going on. I don't know
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: if we needed them, you know, like, I mean nothing
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: against them. I would like it if they were here,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: but I was kind of like, we have so many players.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: We have so many players already.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: Counterpoint, there was so much filler in this arc.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's true.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: There was so much room to put them in there,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: and it would not have felt packed because the fight
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: between Lufy and Do Flamingo is so repetitive and goes
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: on for so long. There was so much time. If
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: we were going to be spending that time here anyway,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: they definitely could have done something. You know.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: That's true. But again that was also like from a
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: story prospective more of a anything. We talked about it,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: but Old I had different plans. So I'm excited to
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: see and what you think of the plans if it
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: was basically worth it for them to be off screen
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: for like more than a year basically, or if you
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: will be like that's stupid. I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: I am curious. Bernandette in the chat says also I
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: cannot wait for the next arc. You have no idea?
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy, kids, I'm very it's so weird
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: because like I will maintain I like dress rosa arc.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: I'll go down saying that things went on for too
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: long toward the end. But then it feels like this
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: whole thing picked it back up again a little bit.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: But there is a feeling of like it being a
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: turning point, you know. And I think it's just the
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: reveal of so many different things and how they work,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: and everybody get like a lot of the pirates being
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: turned against the straw Hats for a particular reason. It
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: just feels like this is a moment that's going to
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: change things somehow. I really, just for the record, want
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Bartolomet to join the crew really very much. I what
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: is the name of the fish man that has joined
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: the crew allegedly but that we never.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: See Jim Bay?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Jimbay? Yeah, no offense Jimbay. But like it's if it's
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: a situation where we don't have enough slots open, can
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: we just ditch Jimbay? Can we? He's a very nice
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: fish man. He is super boring. He doesn't do anything.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: He's not around. I do not care about him. When
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: I was at that event in Austin, they were selling
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: all kinds of merch and it was the end of
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: the event run. It had been up for like three months,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: so everything that was left was what nobody bought, and
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: it was all Jim Bay stuff. It was like his posters,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: his little figurines, apparently like they are very much doing
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: a let's try to make Jim Bay happen kind of thing,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: and it's not. Nobody's buying it. Maybe eventually something will
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: happen and I'll change my mind, but based on the
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: sales of items, I will say that I'm not the
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: only person who feels this way. And Vargila Mayo, if
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: he were asked to be part of the straw Hats,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he'd do. I think he might die. Yeah,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: he would literally die.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't I don't think we can ask him.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: I want him to meet the rest of the crew
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: as well, So that's another part of wanting the rest
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: of them to show up like that. He's gotten to
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: meet a few of them, But how would he react
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: to my God, Chopper, I really I just want to
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: see that's.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: Allo, all right, I don't I don't think so.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you so much for joining me.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. It's super fun to have a guest,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: and uh you're always a delight Florian, So thanks for
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: coming on and think he brun a dead also for
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: being in the chat. Missed you and glad to see
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: you back. And I hope everybody listening is enjoying the
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: coverage and we will be seeing you soon with a
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: new episode.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: Until then, to motherfuckers, bye bye.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: That was an unspoiled network