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#241 Harvest Time: College Campuses Poised for Revival (with Special Guest Paul Worcester) · The OneCry Podcast

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  And the harvest is plentiful.
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  There's more students on our campuses that are ready to hear and respond to the Gospel
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  than there are Christians trying to share the Gospel with them.
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  Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
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  The goal, accelerating the movement of God who's sharing revival truth, stories, and
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  reports.
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  Well, welcome to the One Cry Podcast.
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  I'm Bill Eliff, and I am so pumped today because I have my dear friend, Paul Wooster, with
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  me.
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  And Paul, it's just great to have you, man.
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  It's an honor.
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  I'm excited.
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  Yeah.
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  I've learned so much from you, and it's been great.
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  So I'm excited.
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  Well, I wish I had gone up and got off the cabinet, which I have it right there, my revival
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  hat.
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  Oh, yes.
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  If people who are watching my video today, you got the coolest revival hat I've ever
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  seen.
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  You gave me one.
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  I got one, man.
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  So I'm good.
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  I've got a present-centered hat.
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  I need to send you sometime.
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  Oh, I'd love that.
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  That'd be awesome.
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  It's pretty neat.
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  Yeah.
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  It's an anointed hat, you know.
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  Well, and you're a hat guy.
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  I mean, I don't hardly receive that hat.
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  That's true.
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  Paul is the National Collegiate Director for the North American Mission Board for the Southern
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  Baptist Convention, and that's kind of a big deal.
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  And Paul, God has given you a great opportunity, and He is living it to the max.
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  I mean, the Lord is really using him all across the nation with college students, college
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  leaders, particularly training college leaders.
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  And Paul, what I love about you is, you know, there are guys that are just kind of, I don't
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  know how to say this, but kind of one-trick ponies.
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  You know, they kind of have one little thing that they think about, but you have a broad
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  understanding of the gospel, a broad understanding of our calling to lead people to Christ.
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  You have a great passion for the next generation.
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  And you have a really good understanding of revival and spiritual awakening and where
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  that all fits in that.
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  And so I'm just, we're honored to have you today, and we're really grateful for the role
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  you're playing across the nation.
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  What's the most fun thing about your job?
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  Working with collegiate leaders and getting to celebrate alongside of them without being,
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  My role is more of an equipping and resource role than it is an oversight role.
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  So it's such a blessing to be able to come alongside a college pastor or a campus-based
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  leader and just champion, celebrate, problem-solve, and just, I'm already crying because I just
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  love those guys so much, and girls, and just the work that they're doing.
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  And I think it's such a joy, just an honor to coach and encourage leaders, really.
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  It's crazy that we get to do this, you know.
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  Well, and we wanted to, of course, this podcast will sit on our OneCry podcast from now on,
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  but we're releasing this just a few weeks before the Collegiate Day of Prayer, and I
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  think most of our listeners may know if they've listened for very long that the Collegiate
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  Day of Prayer really started during the Second Great Awakening, 1800s, and then it kind of
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  went away a little bit, and then it came back, and now is really gaining in intensity.
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  Can you tell us just a little bit about that?
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  Yes, it's been kind of building the last few years, and Asbury, when that Asbury Awakening
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  or revival, whatever people are calling it these days, that really blew it up in a just
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  supernatural way, and went viral in all the good, right ways, and it was incredible.
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  We had, I don't even remember how many people we had on the simulcast, but it was exponential,
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  just the amount.
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  Millions.
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  Yeah, millions on the simulcast, and then we went to A&M, Waco, and just each stop recently
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  the last few years since then has been really exciting to see just what God has done to
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  bless those events, simulcast events, but also more importantly, it's just people across
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  the nation are adopting campuses to pray over, and we're seeing a lot of unity events, so
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  campus ministries, churches are uniting to have a night of prayer, and God is really
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  showing up in some exciting ways.
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  So, I encourage you, as a collegiate day of prayer is coming up, adopt a campus or
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  two yourself, and then also prayerfully consider gathering leaders, gathering churches, gathering
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  your ministry to intercede for the campus, and even if some ministries can come together,
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  that can be a powerful moment of unity, the call out to the Lord together.
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  So that's just the idea.
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  OneCry plays a part in helping to do the, produce the simulcast every year, and this
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  year it will be from Liberty University, one of our, well the founder of OneCry went over
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  to Liberty to do some pre-work on that, and he went to the student night, they have a
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  night once a week, just a Bible study and preaching and worship, and 9,000 students
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  at night.
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  I mean, it's incredible what the Lord is doing.
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  On their own volition, too, that's not a required thing that they're…
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  No, no, it's just a student deal, and 9,000 students, so we're really praying for that
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  simulcast, and you're right, for years, the attempt was to have Christians across
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  the United States adopt the campus for that day of prayer, and do some kind of extraordinary
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  prayer, and for the campuses to have extraordinary times of prayer.
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  There are 4,900 campuses, 4,600, something like that in the United States, and about
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  30,000 worldwide, and last year, the CDOP organization, Collegiate Day of Prayer, broadened
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  that to start praying for campuses all over the world, so we encourage you, before we
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  get into some other stuff, I just want to tell our listeners, go on the Collegiate Day
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  of Prayer site, Collegiate Day of Prayer, just search for it on the internet, and you'll
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  find what you need.
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  It's very simple, and you can actually register there.
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  It has a list of all these colleges, and you can register, and we want to adopt every campus.
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  That's one of the…
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  Yes, and a word I would say about that is, you know, when this releases, there'll only
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  be a little bit of time before the actual event comes, but don't be afraid just to host
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  a small, simple gathering, even if it's a handful of people, and pray over Scripture,
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  pray for the campus, just be intentional in kind of praying over that, and I think God
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  is often just as pleased with those small gatherings of faithful believers as the big,
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  giant, you know, things that get all the press, so don't despise the small beginnings, you
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  know, and just get after it, and gather some people and pray.
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  It could be your small group, you know, that's already existing that says, hey, we're just
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  going to take this Thursday, and we're going to pray for campus, and picking one out, or
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  go prayer walk a campus that's close to you, or, you know, there's a lot of things that
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  you could do.
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  My first experience with the Collegiate Day of Prayer was when I was a minister in Chico.
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  I didn't know about it, but this YWAM staff guy texted me, texted a bunch of guys, he
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  said, hey, we're doing a gathering of prayer for Chico State, and I was the only person
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  that showed up to his invite, so it was him and I praying for campus, and God blessed
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  that little time of prayer, and, you know, since then, things have grown, but it's just
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  cool to see God blesses those faithful, those unseen moments.
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  That's awesome.
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  Well, Paul, I know you've studied this, because God has historically moved among college students
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  in terms of just the kingdom and the gospel, of course, but also particularly in times
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  of revival and spiritual awakening.
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  You know, we often say that there, you can categorize it different ways, but I would
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  say that God has sent five seasons of nationwide revival and awakening in America, and I think
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  we're on the cusp, maybe in the foothills of number six, it's true, and so how has,
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  in your experience and observation, how has the Lord moved in the past?
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  I want to ask you really three or four questions.
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  Number one, how has He moved in the past, and then how is He moving now, you know, and
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  what are we seeing?
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  We want to hear some reports of what, and you have a bead on that, and then how can
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  we cooperate with Him, how can we join Him in that?
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  So in your opinion, how has God used camp, why does He, why does God seem to settle down
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  with college students, and they're the early adopters, it seems, in revival?
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  Yes, and I mean, you're the expert on revival history, so you can probably have some episodes
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  in the past, so I won't go into too much detail, but even as we're talking about small prayer
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  meetings can lead to great impact, you think about the student volunteer movement, those
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  guys under the haystack, you know, just a couple young college students under a haystack
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  praying and asking God for big things, and one of them said, if we can do this, we will,
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  and then, you know, D.L. Moody was greatly used during that time.
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  They had this conference, this summer project, discipleship camp type thing, where they spent
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  a few weeks of D.L. Moody teaching, and they signed this petition, and they called themselves
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  the Mount Hermon 100, and there was 100 young men that signed a pledge to ministry, to missions,
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  international missions, and then some of those actually didn't, ended up, God redirected
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  their call to be mobilizers, and they went to campus to campus to actually spark interest
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  and talk about consecration to Christ.
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  It was a genuine revival movement, the student volunteer movement.
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  If you haven't read up on that, any leaders out there, man, read about the student volunteer
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  movement.
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  It wasn't just a missions movement, I would say it was genuinely a revival movement on
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  the campuses, and obviously, anytime God moves in revival, He also sparks God, He shares
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  His heart for the lost world with His people, and so, that's one of the marks, I'd say,
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  of genuine revival is God giving a vision and a passion for evangelism, disciple making,
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  and mission mobilization, and so, that's just one.
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  The Second Great Awakening, the D.O. Moody, the student volunteer movement, that really
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  excites me, and just, I really, I'm praying for another student volunteer movement, and
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  that's something that even in my, as I'm speaking at conferences and stuff, I have a missions
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  talk I give, and the call to international missions, and we're seeing, I'm seeing a lot
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  of young people called to give their lives to the nations, to international missions.
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  Did you see, I don't, I just saw one report on this, but I saw Paul Chitwood, who's the
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  head of the International Mission Board for the Southern Bears Convention, that he said,
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  he reported recently, that the pipeline for the IMB missionaries was up 400%.
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  I believe that.
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  Four hundred percent, and you know, I think you're exactly right, Paul.
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  Every time there's been a Great Awakening and a movement of revival, the next thing
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  that happens is that it spurs a missions movement, because our hearts get right with God and
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  start beating in unison with His, and He's interested in every tongue, tribe, nation,
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  and people, you know, and so most mission movements can be traced to outbreaks of revival
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  and spiritual awakening.
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  And what's interesting about that, even that, just taking the IMB, International Mission
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  Board as an example, probably, I don't remember exactly how many years ago it was, but they
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  were kind of saying, hey, we have more Journeymen, their two-year program, SWATs, than we have
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  applicants.
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  Yeah.
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  That was just a few years ago, but recently, with all the movement since COVID and everything
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  and Asbury and just all these great things happening, they're starting to see this increase
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  of missions mobilization, you know, and then the one that you were a part of, the Jesus
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  Movement is one that is deep, really, on my heart and deep, like, very personal in
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  my heart, because my dad came to Christ as a part of the Jesus Movement.
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  He's a church planter.
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  He's planted at least eight churches, probably 10, depending on how you count, and then he's
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  trained thousands of church planters.
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  Right now, he's more international, going training international leaders and planting
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  churches and things, but he came to Christ at University of New Mexico, and he came to
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  a crew meeting.
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  He was a complete hippie, druggie guy.
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  He was also a college Povolta, so he kind of was a party guy and a college athlete with
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  the long hair, came into a Campus Crusade for Christ meeting, and he was really impressed
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  with the testimonies, and one of the leaders, the director, gave him a little yellow booklet.
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  You guys have probably seen it, The Four Spiritual Laws, and he took that home to his dorm, and
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  he read that seven times.
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  This is the first time he ever heard the gospel.
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  Wow.
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  Wow.
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  He said, if this is true, this is the greatest thing I've ever heard, gave his life to Christ,
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  and actually, he ended up getting a little Jesus pin for his hippie jacket, and he went
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  down to the cafeteria, had this Jesus pin, and his buddy said, hey, what is that?
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  And he said, I can't tell you here.
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  So he went up to the room and read The Four Spiritual Laws booklet with his buddy and
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  led his friend to Christ, and when their friend left his room, he said that was the greatest
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  joy he's ever felt in his life.
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  Just the Holy Spirit filled him, and he had the joy.
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  And so, and since then, it's been kind of this process of him just planting churches.
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  He actually went back to the summer, he went back home, and he led a bunch of his friends
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  to Christ, started this little Bible study of about 30 people going through the Gospel
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  of John.
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  He basically planted a church before he even attended the church.
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  No one was following up with him.
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  Wow.
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  Before he knew what it was.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  It was a lot of moving.
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  And so, you know,
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  Dad was in Brazil, and both of us were training missionaries.
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  And I was, during the day for a week, you know, I was teaching on how to walk with Christ
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  and all of that, and your dad was training them in the methods of church planting.
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  And I got to know your father, John, who, he's a wild man.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  He's just a wild man.
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  And he's so, only heaven will record what God has done to his life.
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  And just think, he was just, he was a college student.
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  Yeah.
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  He was just a college student, got saved, and didn't even know what church was, didn't
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  know what the Gospel was, and got doing that all over the nation.
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  And really, the reports we're hearing all over the world in some pretty extraordinary
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  ways.
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  And so, when God begins to move among these college students, I think one of the reasons
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  God begins with students is they're early adopters, you know, they don't have all the
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  baggage of, well, you know, what do we think about this?
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  We've never done it that way before, you know, they don't have that, and they're ready to
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  pick up and go, so they're early, they're easy to mobilize for Gospel purposes.
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  And God gets them young, so they can, like your dad, so they can be used for the next
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  50 years.
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  Yes.
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  They fuel the next, they are the next generation leaders, you know, which is so, is so beautiful.
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  And Paul, you're seeing this in real time right now.
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  You've got a front row seat to it, and in your job, you go around the college campuses,
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  I'm forever seeing you on Facebook, training another group of students at some campus.
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  When you go into these campuses, and you work with these leaders, what do you want to pour
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  into them more than anything else, to equip them to seize the day with what's going on
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  around them?
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  Yeah, that's a great question, but I kind of want to mention one thing as I was talking
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  about my dad's story.
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  I do believe there's many John Worcesters sitting in fraternity houses, drunk, you know,
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  and there's many young people that God has a plan for, that God has chosen, that God
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  wants to work in their lives.
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  The problem is not with the harvest, right?
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  The harvest is plentiful.
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  The problem is a lack of labors, and we're just seeing an unprecedented openness.
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  And I do live in Hawaii now, it's a long story, but it helps my wife's back.
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  But I was praying and thinking about what a way to describe to your listeners, kind
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  of what God is doing across the nation.
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  And the best way I kind of thought I came to mind was, across the street, there's a
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  good swell happening right now.
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  It's probably 10 to 20 feet, it'll be in the next, tomorrow, it'll be 10 to 20 feet.
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  So, the average person should not get in the water, okay?
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  That's what surfers call firing.
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  It's firing, it's going off, it's exciting, it is really big, really big.
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  But a couple times a year, there's a 50 foot swell that they hold a, only hold this contest,
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  they call it the Eddie, the Eddie Akao, and it's in honor of this lifeguard that gave
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  his life for others and stuff.
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  But it's incredible, it's in Waimea Bay, just right down the street from me.
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  But thousands of people flock to see these guys ride these 50 foot waves.
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  And so kind of my comparison here is, right now we're experiencing the 10 to 20 foot waves.
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  We're seeing a movement of God, but I think God could be, and we need to pray for that
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  that God would send the tsunami, send the 50 foot waves.
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  And so I just think there is more that God could do.
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  But I think that's just an exciting place that He could be doing.
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  So just a thought I had there, but to answer your question, yeah, I really, I do emphasize
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  a lot with students in our trainings is the person and work of the Holy Spirit.
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  You know, I train mainly in Baptist circles.
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  So sometimes I have to start from square one there and remind them, don't forget the Holy
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  Spirit and cooperate with Him and just great truths from Ephesians 1 and all these great
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  verses that just help us understand that He is available, ready, and able to help us as
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  we love Him, as we serve others, as we share Christ.
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  And then prayer, prayer is the next thing, developing a intentional, disciplined, unhurried
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  prayer life is something that is really important that we teach.
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  And then personal, bold, bold and broad evangelism is the way I put it.
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  Just sowing broadly with the gospel, making it hard to go to hell on your campus and really
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  helping students give tools and ideas and helping them realize that, man, the harvest
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  is plentiful.
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  There's more students on our campuses that are ready to hear and respond to the gospel
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  than there are Christians trying to share the gospel with them.
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  And when you realize that, that God is working, God is moving in people's lives, it's not
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  our job to convince people.
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  It's not our job to convert people.
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  Our job is to love, to pray, and to share.
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  God's job is to draw, to convict, and convert.
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  And so help them realize, hey, they can just be seed-sowing fools and just sow the seed.
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  And you know, the students are the best ones to reach other students.
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  A college student is the best person to reach another college student.
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  There was a girl that my wife discipled.
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  We have a small discipleship school that we do just kind of on the side here in Hawaii.
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  We have about a dozen students live with us at a time, and we help disciple them in partnership
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  with the church here.
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  And there's this one girl named Larissa that Christy discipled, my wife, and Larissa went
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  back to Kennesaw State and just had this deep burden for her campus, started prayer walking
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  with a couple others once a week, and then they started sharing their faith.
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  They started just starting gospel conversations, and eventually they got the idea, what if
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  we did a united worship night and prayer night and give a gospel invitation?
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  And so they invited the other churches and ministries, and they got a student that boldly
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  stood up and shared a, I saw the video of it, it was a pretty radical call to repentance
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  and faith.
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  And they had people flooding the altars, they had hundreds at this student planned, at the
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  center of campus, student planned event on the center of campus, and this 21-year-old
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  or 20-year-old giving this gospel presentation and just students flooding to the front to
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  receive prayer from other students.
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  And there's things like that that are happening on, I could show you multiple campuses, BCM,
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  traditional Baptist collegiate ministries that have saw over a hundred professions of
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  faith just last school year.
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  And so we have a list of ministries that are just starting to see revival, traditional
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  Baptist campus ministries, and then there's a growing movement of church-based college
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  ministries that God is using greatly.
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  There's so many church-based ministries that are on campus sharing the gospel, seeing fruit.
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  So yeah, there's so many exciting things happening.
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  That's really incredible.
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  And I, you know, we see the reports, the Unitas movement, the churches, just among churches
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  that I know of, you know, the reports of just increased evangelism, just, you know, just
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  people getting saved.
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  And I shared on the podcast one time of my brother, Jim, who took a 30-day trip with
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  his wife out to California.
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  And they said, they asked the Lord if God would give him the chance to just share Christ
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  every day with one person.
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  And he said, Bill, we're in revival.
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  I said, why do you know that?
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  He said, because not only was it one person, it was three to four people every day.
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  And for 30 days, and every single conversation we had, the other people were leaning in.
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  There wasn't one person in the back.
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  They were all leaning in.
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  And he said it felt, Jesus, Jim was in the Jesus movement, as was I.
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  He said it felt just like the Jesus movement.
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  There's something about when God intends to bring revival that he brings a gospel receptivity.
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  And boy, Paul, if we don't seize that day, you know, I think of Paul praying, telling
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  people, hey, pray for me, that God will give me utterance in the opening of my mouth.
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  We just don't open our mouth.
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  And that's one of the things I love about what God is using you to do, is you're training
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  the students in just simple, practical ways to just open your mouth.
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  And it doesn't have to be profound, doesn't have to be, you don't have to be C.S. Lewis
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  apologetics, you know, it can just be telling your story.
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  I mean, if you walk off and you say, man, I've trained these leaders in evangelism,
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  what do you feel like you have to put into them in just a simple way?
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  And if I can get that in, they can be off and running.
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  Yeah, it's good.
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  In evangelism training, it's really helpful to have the motivation on one side, the encouragement,
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  the motivation and all that, but also the kind of practical tools, almost like training
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  wheels, you know, help them get started, give them a gospel sharing tool, give them a system.
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  And one tool that we're seeing used that actually churches, not just for college ministries,
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  churches across the nation are using, I call it gospel appointments.
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  And it's just what it sounds like.
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  It's an appointment to share the gospel.
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  And I'll just give you an illustration of how that works.
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  A little while ago, there was a guy named Ewar that was at our church here in Hawaii.
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  He's from the Netherlands.
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  And I started a conversation with him at church.
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  And I just straight up asked him, I was a little bold, but I asked him, hey, when did
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  you commit your life to Christ?
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  And he was, I don't know if that's the best question or not, but he was kind of like a
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  deer in the headlights and was like, I don't know.
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  And so I was like, hey, that's, I guess that's something we'll have to remedy then.
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  So let's talk, let's meet up this week and let's grab lunch or coffee and let's talk
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  more about that.
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  And so there's better ways to address that even than I just said, often I'll train students
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  to say, if they're at a church service or a campus meeting, hey, it'd be great to get
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  to know you better, tell you more about what we believe, the behind the scenes of our group
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  and how you can get plugged in.
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  Because on college campus is a recruitment culture.
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  Every fraternity is recruiting, they're doing meetings.
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  And so it's very natural.
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  Actually the college campus, I believe is one of the best places in the world to do
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  bold evangelism because it kind of still fits into that campus culture.
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  You can do it everywhere, but the college campus is such a great place to do it.
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  You're testing and thinking through new ideas every day, right?
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  You know what I'm saying?
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  On the college campus, you're bringing the gospel, which is the ultimate truth.
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  Keep going.
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  So this.
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  Totally.
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  So I have this guy, you are, and I set up that meeting with him later that week.
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  And I brought a student, a new believer with me to kind of play wingman, to watch me how
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  I do it.
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  And I would let him, I got in Mason, new believer.
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  I said, Hey, Mason, why don't you share your testimony with you are.
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  And so Mason shared his testimony.
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  And then Mason got to see, we have a gospel lesson that basically explains, it's almost
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  like a Bible study slash gospel track.
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  And we just print it out and have it on the table.
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  And I did the lesson with him.
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  And you are just repented of sin in tears.
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  So I was really excited to come to Christ.
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  And Mason was like, wow, like, this is so simple.
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  This is so basic and reproducible.
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  Like even I could do that, you know, and then I got Mason to do the follow up.
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  We ended up baptizing him later.
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  And so, but that's a simple way that we just train people to think about if you have some
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  visitors at your church or your college ministry, or even your youth group, try to set up appointments,
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  with the newest people.
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  And even if you think they might already be a Christian, it's, it's very helpful to have
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  help bring clarity to the gospel.
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  And over the years, we've been able to lead a lot of Christians to Christ, actually, a
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  lot of people have never, never trust, yeah, Christians, quote unquote, right.
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  So that's one tool, gospel appointments.
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  And we have resources at the NAM, ginsend.org is one place I have resources on that very
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  like scripts and everything like that.
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  So.
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  That's awesome.
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  You know, that that little trip that I was telling my brother took for 30 days.
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  His prayer was God give me a sincere, he said, I would start out with just a sincere statement.
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  Just a sincere statement, I'd be in a grocery store.
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  And I'd see this guy and he said, I just, I would just say to him, you know, Christ
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  could be like, Christ has just changed everything about my life.
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  Has that ever happened to you?
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  I mean, it's just a sincere, it doesn't have to be polished, it doesn't have to be incredible.
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  And what we're saying is, and I think this is what you're giving testimony to, is that
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  during seasons of revival, there's a receptivity like there's, there never is at other times.
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  And boy, we ought to, I was just writing in a little blog the other day, that verse
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  in Proverbs, he who sleeps in a time of harvest is a son who acts shamefully.
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  And there's something about harvest time, we ought to be after it, we really ought to
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  be after it.
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  Yeah.
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  The verse that God, I had one thought on that, actually.
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  I just turned 42 and the passage of scripture that God kind of put on my heart that day
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  was Ephesians 5, 15 through 18.
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  And in there it says, make the most of every opportunity, make the, or redeem the time,
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  depending on the translation.
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  And the word for time is kairos, meaning a once in a lifetime opportunity.
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  And thinking about that idea is like, I think we're in a kairos moment where, man, our season
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  could be a season of genuine revival that's happening.
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  And then every opportunity, every day, I tell people to pray for Bob, okay, pray for a burden
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  for the lost, pray for an opportunity to witness and boldness to share Christ.
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  And you pray for those three things, that's a dangerous prayer.
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  Don't do it unless you're serious.
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  But that's very similar to Bob's prayer.
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  Yeah.
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  The Bob prayer.
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  Yeah.
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  So just for our listeners now, you may want to write this down if you can't remember Bob,
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  but Bob, pray for a burden for the lost, for opportunities to share, and then boldness
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  to witness.
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  What a great prayer to just every morning, get up and say, Lord, I just, I'm going to
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  give you the Bob prayer today and pray for those things.
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  Paul, it's thrilling to talk to you.
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  We could talk all day and we have at times, and I just love you so much and we're so grateful
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  for how God is using you.
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  If you were to say one final thing to our listeners today, how can we, what would you
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  tell the average believer that might be listening to this podcast, young or old, how they can
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  cooperate with God in this significant moment?
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  What would you say?
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  That's a great question.
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  And, you know, I think about my mentor, Max Barnett, and just how he was at University
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  of Oklahoma for many years, and he modeled that lifestyle.
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  He helped disciple my twin brother and I when we were in college, and he just has a simple
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  faith, disciplined faith, but he modeled that lifestyle.
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  And he took time with my brother and I to meet with us weekly and give us how to memorize
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  scripture, how to pray, get us traction on those basic things.
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  And that forever marked my life, that forever changed my life.
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  And that's something anyone can do.
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  Anyone can model the lifestyle and they can take one or two young people and they can
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  start to disciple them, and you never know the exponential impact that personal disciple
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  making can be.
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  So broadly with the gospel, but disciple deeply the ones that are the most hungry, most excited,
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  and then that's going to reproduce, that's going to create a ripple effect that you'll
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  never know this side of eternity.
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  There was one student that I met with, and it was a very hard start to the relationship,
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  but I just held on for dear life.
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  He had some theological issues, you know, and stuff, but I would always bring him back
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  to the Bible, how to pray, how to read the word.
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  But he, after about six months, he came to me and said, Hey, you know this issue that
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  I disagree with you on?
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  I don't think that anymore.
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  And I said, Hey, why is that?
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  I praise God, but why is that?
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  He said, Oh, just reading the Bible for myself.
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  The word of God did the work.
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  Fast forward about 10 years later, he's married and he's alumni at our local church that we
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  partner with and just what a great servant of God.
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  But he sent me a text of a baby.
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  And I said, Hey, what's that?
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  And I said, he's like, it's my son.
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  And his name is Paul, you know, after the apostle Paul.
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  But I was thinking about this, like personal disciple making changes, family trees.
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  And so we invest in individual lives that creates a trickle down effect that can impact
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  generations for Christ.
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  So that's, that's a thought that's so beautiful.
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  That's so beautiful.
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  One time, Paul, I was, I was studying because we have a lot of kids, as you know, and have
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  eight kids.
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  My mother was the oldest of the youngest of 14 and 10 lived to adulthood and, and they
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  average four kids a piece.
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  And all of them became believers in for several generations that I knew, you know, I was just
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  doing the math on this one day.
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  And I thought, what if you had a family that had two kids who had two kids who had two
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  kids for 10 generations?
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  And it would, it would produce, I think in the last, in the 10th generation, like 1028,
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  something like that.
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  And then what if you had like my grandmother Carter, 10 kids that lived to adulthood who
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  had four, who had four, had four, you know what it would produce in the 10th generation?
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  2.6 million, 2.6 million.
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  So when you think about that in terms of the gospel, I was, I was thinking about having
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  my logical children that grew up in Christian environments and have a greater, but just
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  we think of it that way, but just think of the kingdom way, and then just think of this
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  thing of discipleship.
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  I mean, multiplication, which Max Barnett taught you and me is, is great key.
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  And you don't have to be a rocket science to do that.
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  You just go out there and do what you said is beautiful.
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  So broadly, and then build deeply with some, we always love to pray with our guys on podcast.
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  And as we close, Paul, would you just pray for all of this, that God would do this in
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  us, through us, and also in this national day of prayer, that God would just move on
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  college campuses in mighty ways.
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  So would you lead us in that?
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  I'd love to.
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  I'd love to.
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  Father, thank you for this conversation with Bill and the many that are listening here.
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  And we just want to praise you for the work that you're doing.
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  And we pray that we would all be a part of it and participate in exactly the ways that
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  you've called us to, that we would make the most of every opportunity, that we would take
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  advantage of opportunities to share the gospel, to disciple young people, and Lord, that you
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  would continue to bring the tsunami, that you would bring the tsunami of revival on
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  college campuses, high school campuses, young adults, just all over this nation, that you
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  would continue to move.
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  And we just ask for more, Lord, help us to be faithful personally, and that we would
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  just participate with what you're doing.
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  So we thank you, Lord.
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  And we want to give you all the glory.
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  We do give you all the glory for everything that you're doing.
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  We pray this in Jesus name, amen.
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  Amen.
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  Thanks, Paul.
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  And man, we'll have to have you again.
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  And folks, thanks for joining us today on the One Drop Podcast.
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  I hope that you'll, again, just kind of a takeaway from today, besides all the little
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  things that you've heard, take a step and go to the CDOP, collegiatedayofprayer.com.
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  You can also access through the OneCry site, I think, and join us the last Thursday of
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  February every year.
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  Go on and adopt some campuses or a campus and then just pray.
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  I mean, just pray like your life depended upon it, because somebody's life does.
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  And let's see what God can do.
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  All right.
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  Thank you so much.
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  We'll see you next time.