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- 0:59Speaker 1: At this point, we're looking at a range of thirty
- 1:02Speaker 1: two to thirty four a share at seven point two
- 1:04Speaker 1: million a share that gives us evaluation the eight hundred
- 1:07Speaker 1: and sixty eight million. Hang on just a minute. We
- 1:11Speaker 1: have to get a billion dollar evaluation. We have looked
- 1:14Speaker 1: at the comparables, and you set thirty four to thirty
- 1:17Speaker 1: six in your pitch. You can re leave tens of
- 1:20Speaker 1: millions of dollars on the table. We can get at
- 1:22Speaker 1: least thirty five. This is a balancing act, raising money
- 1:26Speaker 1: for your company while still promising our investors a deal
- 1:29Speaker 1: for coming on board. Look, you begged me for this,
- 1:32Speaker 1: I p O. Do you want me to call chatting trust?
- 1:35Speaker 1: I don't actually remember begging, does anybody else? A clip
- 1:40Speaker 1: from the new movie Equity. It opens to this Friday
- 1:43Speaker 1: in New York and Los Angeles and nationwide in August. Well,
- 1:47Speaker 1: when you talk about raising money, let's talk about going
- 1:50Speaker 1: from Crystal Meth to Wall Street. Joining us now is
- 1:53Speaker 1: Anna Gunn, best known for her role as Skyl White
- 1:57Speaker 1: on the AMC drama Breaking Bad, for which she won
- 2:00Speaker 1: the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama. Ann,
- 2:05Speaker 1: thank you very much for being here. Thank you for
- 2:07Speaker 1: having me tell us about how you prepared for this movie.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Equity well. I talked with our producer, Sarah Alicia. First,
- 2:15Speaker 1: they gave me a lot of information about the stories
- 2:17Speaker 1: and experiences that they had drawn their information from for
- 2:22Speaker 1: the for the film. And then I was put in
- 2:24Speaker 1: touch with Barbara byrne Um and I spoke to her
- 2:27Speaker 1: for two hours straight, took reams and rooms of notes,
- 2:30Speaker 1: and she was extraordinarily helpful and really gave me is
- 2:34Speaker 1: she is a luminary on Wall Street. That's what I
- 2:36Speaker 1: always say about her. And we connected immediately, and she
- 2:40Speaker 1: really gave me a rundown, not only of the I
- 2:44Speaker 1: P O process, but just in terms of how she
- 2:46Speaker 1: got started in the business, what it was like, her
- 2:48Speaker 1: struggles for victories, how balancing personal life with a professional life,
- 2:54Speaker 1: being a woman and a mail driven profession, and Um
- 2:59Speaker 1: told me things that I actually wasn't aware of. What
- 3:02Speaker 1: was very interesting to me was not only it's in
- 3:05Speaker 1: the script during a speech where Naomi says it, I
- 3:08Speaker 1: like money, and she says it outright and owns that
- 3:11Speaker 1: and says, I do I like numbers. But the part
- 3:14Speaker 1: of the deal that I think she's actually most passionate
- 3:17Speaker 1: about is the the reading people, reading the clients psychologically
- 3:24Speaker 1: and emotionally and having that intuition and knowing what they
- 3:27Speaker 1: need and balancing balancing that with what the investors need.
- 3:31Speaker 1: It's a really intricate, intricate situation. Will you play Naomi Bishop?
- 3:36Speaker 1: And I could imagine heard any one of the big
- 3:38Speaker 1: banks on Wall Street. She could be gold when she
- 3:40Speaker 1: could be a maybe working a lot of places. She's
- 3:43Speaker 1: an investment banker and she's just had after a string
- 3:47Speaker 1: of very successful in initial public offerings I p O
- 3:50Speaker 1: S and Techtomy, she has Dina core one that just
- 3:53Speaker 1: doesn't fly the way it was supposed to. So everyone's
- 3:54Speaker 1: kind of dogging her about that. You including those guys
- 3:57Speaker 1: in the clip who are complaining that you're not going
- 3:59Speaker 1: to I p O. I'm sorry you're not, Naomi, But
- 4:01Speaker 1: Naomie's not going to I feel the company for enough.
- 4:03Speaker 1: And I just think it's the portrayal of that character
- 4:07Speaker 1: because it's a woman, oh and strong, smart, has to
- 4:09Speaker 1: do with a lot of the same crap and challenge
- 4:11Speaker 1: as a man has to. And yet she's still a
- 4:13Speaker 1: woman in an environment that um is still the male dominant.
- 4:19Speaker 1: I mean, it's a fascinating balance. And congratulations, you do
- 4:22Speaker 1: a very good job. I think of balancing the parts
- 4:23Speaker 1: of this character. Sometimes I like Naomi, sometimes I don't, right,
- 4:26Speaker 1: And that was what I liked about it so much
- 4:28Speaker 1: about the film is that there there are these gray
- 4:31Speaker 1: areas and all the characters, and in Naomi, you're wondering
- 4:34Speaker 1: sometimes which way she's going to go? Is she going to,
- 4:37Speaker 1: you know, take one path or the other. It's also
- 4:39Speaker 1: interesting that she after suffering this, we meet her when
- 4:43Speaker 1: she has just suffered this very public loss and going
- 4:48Speaker 1: in and still being a warrior. And what I love
- 4:50Speaker 1: about her is that she goes in and still because,
- 4:53Speaker 1: as you say, she has been on this winning streak
- 4:55Speaker 1: and she's worked hard and she deserves this promotion. And
- 4:58Speaker 1: then it's told outright by her us the perception as
- 5:01Speaker 1: you rubbed people the wrong way. And Barbara talked a
- 5:04Speaker 1: lot to me about that tight rope in terms of
- 5:07Speaker 1: the likability factor shall we call it um, which I
- 5:11Speaker 1: thought was fascinating as well. Do you think differently about
- 5:14Speaker 1: women on Wall Street after having made this movie? Absolutely?
- 5:19Speaker 1: I was so impressed. We were given a tour around
- 5:22Speaker 1: Goldman Sacks one day, a few days actually before we
- 5:26Speaker 1: began filming in Philadelphia, and went through a I p
- 5:30Speaker 1: O process and um, and then got to go out
- 5:33Speaker 1: to dinner with about seven of our investors and the
- 5:36Speaker 1: inspirations for these characters, and so I got to see
- 5:39Speaker 1: them both in the professional and the social settings, which
- 5:43Speaker 1: was very very interesting, and I took little bits and
- 5:48Speaker 1: pieces from everybody. So she Naomi became sort of a
- 5:51Speaker 1: pastiche of all these tremendous women. I found their intellect
- 5:55Speaker 1: and their wit and their humor and the way that
- 5:59Speaker 1: their stories had a commonality to them, but also you know,
- 6:02Speaker 1: very specific stories as well. So that's why I felt
- 6:05Speaker 1: like I did. She was a bit of a facetious
- 6:08Speaker 1: I said, well, this has been a long process. It
- 6:10Speaker 1: was at least two years ago that on my show
- 6:14Speaker 1: Here Are Blueberg Radio we interviewed Sarah Megan Thomas, Lisia Rhiner,
- 6:17Speaker 1: and we've been kind of following this along and it's
- 6:19Speaker 1: it's it's a kind of it takes a while to
- 6:21Speaker 1: get if you know, you're in that industry still and
- 6:23Speaker 1: make people appreciate sometimes even once you have a script
- 6:26Speaker 1: done and some money lined up, it still takes time
- 6:28Speaker 1: to put it all together. This film is, um, gosh,
- 6:33Speaker 1: what's it like? Because it's intricate. There's a lot of
- 6:36Speaker 1: twist and turns in the plot. Uh, you know, one
- 6:39Speaker 1: person moves one way and she then she gets double crossed.
- 6:43Speaker 1: You know Naomi's guys, you know couple, you just double
- 6:47Speaker 1: crossing her. It's a quiet it's kind of almost a thriller,
- 6:51Speaker 1: but it's definitely got that suspense in it. It does definitely,
- 6:54Speaker 1: And I think that's fantastic that people are picking up
- 6:57Speaker 1: on that, and that you've just said that, because that's
- 6:59Speaker 1: that what mere our director merriman on, who's brilliant, UM,
- 7:05Speaker 1: she really felt that she wanted it to be paced
- 7:07Speaker 1: and and and um situated like a thriller. So I'm
- 7:11Speaker 1: glad that that's being picked up on. But I also
- 7:13Speaker 1: think it's a real character study of these three people
- 7:16Speaker 1: and what they will do with the choices they will
- 7:18Speaker 1: make and and and ultimately whether or not you stick
- 7:22Speaker 1: with your moral compass or you choose to go another
- 7:26Speaker 1: way and um and get ahead despite perhaps making the
- 7:32Speaker 1: wrong choice, which is a conundrum for all these women.
- 7:37Speaker 1: I think don't let money be a dirty word. Yes,
- 7:42Speaker 1: and that was I think one of the that's one
- 7:45Speaker 1: of the juiciest species I probably ever had. Um and
- 7:49Speaker 1: I felt that it was very important for a woman
- 7:52Speaker 1: to be able to say, you know, own this. Let's
- 7:55Speaker 1: not be afraid of being openly ambitious and saying openly
- 7:58Speaker 1: that I like money. And and she explains right away,
- 8:01Speaker 1: the character Nami explains that it comes and originated out
- 8:05Speaker 1: of a need UM in her life, a very real
- 8:08Speaker 1: need single mother for brothers. She's the oldest, felt of
- 8:11Speaker 1: responsibility to put them through school. And then, you know,
- 8:16Speaker 1: I think then the passion for the win and the
- 8:19Speaker 1: passion for the deal making really took over, and that's
- 8:22Speaker 1: been an upward swing in her life. Hollywood, the film industry,
- 8:27Speaker 1: like Wall Street UH, is still very male dominated. Does
- 8:32Speaker 1: the making of this movie equity, which UH focuses on
- 8:37Speaker 1: lead characters who are women. You and your assistant and
- 8:41Speaker 1: all she's going through and all of her conflicts. Um
- 8:45Speaker 1: has obviously a lot of advice and input from women
- 8:48Speaker 1: on Wall Street investment as well. Does this signal something?
- 8:52Speaker 1: Does this open more doors? Is? Do you see Is
- 8:54Speaker 1: this at the tip of the spear in the film industry? Perhaps?
- 8:57Speaker 1: I hope so, I really do. I think it's about
- 8:59Speaker 1: time that it's also when you have people, as you say,
- 9:04Speaker 1: Alicia Riner and Sarah Megan Thomas, who created and conceived
- 9:07Speaker 1: the movie. Amy Fox or female screenwriter, a female director.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Three strong female leads is a very unusual situation and
- 9:15Speaker 1: one that I hope we see much much more we
- 9:17Speaker 1: need to. One of the aspects of the movie talks about,
- 9:22Speaker 1: in a sense, hiding certain things. There's a character who
- 9:26Speaker 1: is pregnant, but she replaces her Martini with water. Yes, yeah,
- 9:34Speaker 1: and Aaron. Sarah who plays Aaron, and that character has
- 9:37Speaker 1: talked a lot about um the about the idea of
- 9:43Speaker 1: having to hide your pregnancy because the fear that you
- 9:46Speaker 1: won't get ahead, you won't be promoted, and that people
- 9:50Speaker 1: will think, well, she's going to be busy with her child,
- 9:52Speaker 1: and so that will take over. And it's also something
- 9:55Speaker 1: that Naomi's had to struggle with. I think she made
- 9:57Speaker 1: a very conscious choice not to get married and not
- 9:59Speaker 1: to have children in order to keep her eye on
- 10:02Speaker 1: the prize, as it were, and that's something that's still
- 10:05Speaker 1: a very difficult balancing act for a lot of women
- 10:07Speaker 1: across the board, no matter what which profession you're in. Okay,
- 10:11Speaker 1: tell us more about equity opening in theaters across the country.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Give us the details and also what's what's up? What's
- 10:18Speaker 1: next for you? It's not a good. Well. Right now,
- 10:20Speaker 1: I am doing season two of Shades of Blue with
- 10:23Speaker 1: ray Leota and Jennifer m Jennifer, j Lo Jennifer. She's
- 10:31Speaker 1: amazing and so is he. And um, and this movie
- 10:35Speaker 1: is opening in theaters to New York today and or Friday, sorry,
- 10:42Speaker 1: and in Los Angeles on Saturday, and then goes country wide,
- 10:47Speaker 1: um in August. And thank you so much for Johning us.
- 10:50Speaker 1: It's really fun to meet you. Thank you. We're always
- 10:52Speaker 1: a little bit star struck here at Bloomberg and she's
- 10:55Speaker 1: definitely a star. And you really this movie shines so
- 10:57Speaker 1: much because of you. Thank you, so thank you very much.
- 11:00Speaker 1: And a gun Startup Equity opening Friday in New York
- 11:03Speaker 1: and Los Angeles nationwide in August. A terrific, very realistic
- 11:08Speaker 1: look I think at the women on Wall Street in
- 11:10Speaker 1: the world of investment banking. This is Bloomberg