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Meet Me at Miss Patty's: Gilmore Book Club with Kristine Eckart · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. Again! More, more, more. I want
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  Speaker 1: to kiss you more. More, more, more.
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  Speaker 2: I want to kiss you more.
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  Speaker 1: Meet me at Miss Patty's with Easton Allen. I have
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  Speaker 1: been waiting for over an hour. This is Easton Allen.
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  Speaker 1: It is meet me. I miss Patty's. You were given
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  Speaker 1: simple instructions. I've been waiting here all day, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: so glad to be with you guys. They were going
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  Speaker 1: to have so much fun. Here's what we do on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast. We're exploring all the different events, all the fun. fandoms,
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  Speaker 1: all the great stuff that goes on beyond the screen
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  Speaker 1: of Gilmore Girls. These are things you can experience yourself.
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  Speaker 1: You can connect with other Gilmore Girls fans. It's just,
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  Speaker 1: it's been such a blast doing this. And the blasting
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  Speaker 1: continues this week. We're talking to Christine Eckert. I know
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  Speaker 1: you know her name. If you're a Gilmore Girls fan,
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  Speaker 1: you know who Christine is. She is a power player
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  Speaker 1: in this industry. She is the mastermind behind Gilmore Book Club.
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  Speaker 1: And that is GilmoreBookClub.com and Instagram at Gilmore Book Club.
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  Speaker 1: She put together reading lists and book clubs around all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of different fandoms, like Friends, The Office. I think
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  Speaker 1: she worked on Lord of the Rings. So much cool stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but mostly Gilmore Girls. She is working through the Rory
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  Speaker 1: Gilmore reading list. There's a list that has been compiled
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  Speaker 1: of every book referenced in Gilmore Girls, not just by Rory,
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  Speaker 1: but every book referenced or read by a character in
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  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls. And Christine is working through it along with
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  Speaker 1: her merry crew of book club members, which you can
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  Speaker 1: be a part of too at GilmoreBookClub.com. She's also become
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  Speaker 1: a writer herself. She has made the transition. She has
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  Speaker 1: got behind the keyboard. She has a new book out.
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  Speaker 1: It's called Meet Me at Luke's. Very fun for me
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  Speaker 1: to say here on Meet Me at Miss Patty's. That
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  Speaker 1: is available now on Amazon or your local bookstore. It's
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  Speaker 1: a collection of essays and life lessons that she picked
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  Speaker 1: up from the Gilmore Girls world and being a fan
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  Speaker 1: of the show and sharing it with others. So much
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  Speaker 1: great stuff to get into. We're going to talk to
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  Speaker 1: Christine right now. On the line with me now, Christine Eckert,
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  Speaker 1: the mastermind, the big boss, the inspiration behind the Gilmore
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  Speaker 1: Book Club. I am so excited to talk to you.
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  Speaker 1: What an honor. How's it going, Christine? Thanks for joining
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  Speaker 1: us this morning. Amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Okay, so if you guys haven't browsed
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  Speaker 1: the Gilmore Book Club on Instagram or at their website, GilmoreBookClub.com,
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  Speaker 1: Christina's done something that I think is so cool and
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  Speaker 1: something I, as a pop culture fan, I just latch
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  Speaker 1: onto so much. You've made a reading list of every
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  Speaker 1: book that Rory Gilmore references or reads in the entirety
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  Speaker 1: of Gilmore Girls. What an undertaking. Yeah. And forgive me,
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  Speaker 1: how many of those books have you read yourself? Have
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  Speaker 1: you read all of them?
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  Speaker 2: Not yet. I will get there. There are over 400
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  Speaker 2: in the original series, probably over five or six when
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  Speaker 2: you count A Year in the Life. I will say
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  Speaker 2: this list was circulating in various forms before I did
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  Speaker 2: the tracker, which counts for you because who wants to
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  Speaker 2: count 400 books?
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: I've read 175. Wow. Um, so far.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Um, which is a healthy number, but compared to what
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  Speaker 2: Rory reads, it's still quite small.
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  Speaker 1: That's, that's a, that's a lifetime number for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. Like, like people who reach that in their lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: So that's, that is impressive. Uh, which is okay.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to feel like this is something
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  Speaker 2: they can't like they see Rory and how bookish she is.
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  Speaker 2: And people feel like they can't undertake that themselves. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want that to be their experience. For me, this is,
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  Speaker 2: like you said, a lifetime thing. And I think to
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  Speaker 2: be able to enjoy your way through that or any book,
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  Speaker 2: like it shouldn't be just because somebody else told you
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  Speaker 2: to read it. It should be an experience for you
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  Speaker 2: in whatever way you need to experience that, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: you pick it up and go, oh, okay, not right now.
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  Speaker 2: I need that in maybe three years.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't want it to be as intimidating.
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  Speaker 2: I know it does sound that way, but it should
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  Speaker 2: be an experience for you.
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  Speaker 1: I love that so much. Uh, so I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of browsing the list and, uh, and
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  Speaker 1: also just from watching the show, I think about how, like,
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  Speaker 1: there are some, there, there are a lot of books
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  Speaker 1: on there that you would expect, like, you know, of
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  Speaker 1: mice and men, uh, year of magical thinking, Joe did
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  Speaker 1: Joe Didion, things like that. Is there a book that
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  Speaker 1: classics classic, you know, uh, and is there a book
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  Speaker 1: that is on the list that Rory read or reference
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  Speaker 1: that completely caught you by surprise? That is like, so,
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  Speaker 1: so something that is out there. And not what you
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  Speaker 1: would expect from someone like Rory Gilmore.
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  Speaker 2: So one of the misconceptions about the list is that
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  Speaker 2: all of the books are from Rory. And that's not
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  Speaker 2: the case. Lorelai reads and references some. Of course, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of it is the one and only Jess Mariano.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Dean has a few. Luke has. So like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the characters reference things. And that just goes back
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  Speaker 2: to Amy Sherman Palladino, how she writes and how her
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  Speaker 2: writers write because of her. So everybody is very reference heavy. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Rory sort of conducts the pickle train, as it were. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, some of the like Jess Dean books are
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  Speaker 2: pretty out there, like Confederacy of Dances. I had a
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  Speaker 2: hard time with.
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  Speaker 1: That's a tough one.
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  Speaker 2: I Yeah. Some of them are just so stylized. Like
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  Speaker 2: Hunter Thompson is just very stylized. If Jess were to
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  Speaker 2: write a book, I'm sure this would come out of
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  Speaker 2: his brain, his teenage brain maybe, maybe not his adult brain.
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  Speaker 2: And so those were just harder for me because the
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  Speaker 2: style is not generally what I would gravitate toward. But
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  Speaker 2: I do think it's valuable to read things that are
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  Speaker 2: sort of out of your comfort zone. Yeah. I think
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  Speaker 2: maybe in Cold Blood, it's actually referenced on the show
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  Speaker 2: for Luke. But I do think it's something Rory would
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  Speaker 2: have read Truman Capote because that's a pretty classic literature
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  Speaker 2: thing to read. But I'm not a horror person. And
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  Speaker 2: if I can reference another show, that is one I
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  Speaker 2: would like to put in the freezer.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, interesting.
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  Speaker 2: A Friends reference where Joey puts books that he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like in the freezer. And I'm not a.
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  Speaker 2: That is one that I was like, I can't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a Friends person. You have to forgive me.
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  Speaker 1: I did not know that. And that is so funny.
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  Speaker 2: That is why I said it. But a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people have understood that he reads Little Women and Rachel
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  Speaker 2: reads The Shining, I think. But when he gets scared,
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  Speaker 2: he likes to put.
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  Speaker 1: Books in the freezer.
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  Speaker 2: And so for me, that's just very out of character.
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  Speaker 2: But That's when I get to read things as a
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  Speaker 2: writer and go, okay, let's look at the writing. Let's
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  Speaker 2: look at something else that I'm, yes, paying attention to
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  Speaker 2: the plot, but can sort of take myself out of.
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  Speaker 2: So while that doesn't scream Rory to me, I do
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  Speaker 2: think it's something that she would have read.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. What a great answer to that. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: As you mentioned, you have made the cross from reader
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  Speaker 1: to writer. You are a writer yourself. Meet Me at
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  Speaker 1: Luke's is the book. You can get it on Amazon.
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  Speaker 1: You can get it at your local bookstore, too. uh,
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  Speaker 1: a collection of, um, a collection of essays, life lessons
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  Speaker 1: from Gilmore girls. Uh, what was, when you decided to
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  Speaker 1: sit down and actually, let me, let me rephrase that.
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  Speaker 1: This is a collection of essays or something. Had you
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  Speaker 1: been kind of writing this as you've gone along and
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  Speaker 1: then collected them? Or did you at one point say,
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  Speaker 1: I want to write a book. I want to join
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  Speaker 1: the world of, of authors. How did that experience happen
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  Speaker 1: for you?
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  Speaker 2: I am very Rory, and I've always known what I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to be since I was little. I've always wanted
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  Speaker 2: to be a writer in some capacity. When I started
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  Speaker 2: doing the Rory Gilmore Reading Challenge back in, I think, 2018,
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  Speaker 2: I started a blog just to sort of chronicle my
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  Speaker 2: way through that. So if you read some of the
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  Speaker 2: essays on the blog, they are different from Meet Me
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  Speaker 2: at Luke's. But there are tidbits in there that are
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  Speaker 2: the same. And it was a way of not only
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  Speaker 2: building an audience, but also sort of exploring some themes
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  Speaker 2: and stuff for myself in hopes of, I would always
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  Speaker 2: love to turn this into a book one day. And
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  Speaker 2: I did that. And I hope I can do that
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  Speaker 2: for more fandoms. Like you said, I love pop culture
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  Speaker 2: and I love getting into all this stuff. So I
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  Speaker 2: would love to take the life lessons on journeys through
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  Speaker 2: all the fandoms because I find People are rarely just
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  Speaker 2: in one singular fandom. They do like them all. There
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of Lord of the Rings references in
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  Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If you know what you're looking for. But this is
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  Speaker 2: one of my true love communities. And to be a
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  Speaker 2: part of the Gilmore Girls fandom in any way is
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  Speaker 2: such a blessing and an honor. And they're just the
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  Speaker 2: loveliest people.
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  Speaker 1: The absolute best. Every Gilmore fan I've met has been
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  Speaker 1: so kind and excited and curious. Just the best kind
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  Speaker 1: of people. That being said, I don't want to deviate
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  Speaker 1: too far from Gilmore Girls, but Lord of the Rings
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  Speaker 1: you just mentioned, is there another fan that you are
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  Speaker 1: drawn to the most right at this specific moment in
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  Speaker 1: October of 2026? Is there a fandom that you're like
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  Speaker 1: really drawn to right now?
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  Speaker 2: So I'm watching Grey's Anatomy for probably also the billionth time.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. It's one of my other shows and it's incredibly
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  Speaker 2: different from Gilmore Girls. It's a bit of an accident
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  Speaker 2: getting into it, but I love it so much. So
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  Speaker 2: that's what I was watching this morning before the interview.
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  Speaker 2: But I've also just been getting into Ted Lasso a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. I was hesitant because of the sports, but
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  Speaker 2: it's one of my dad's favorite shows. And I know
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  Speaker 2: it is big in pop culture. So I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'll test. And we just got Apple TV. So I
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  Speaker 2: was testing the waters a little bit and it's been
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  Speaker 2: really funny and endearing at the same time. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it will be one of the next shows on
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  Speaker 2: my list to get a reading list for the other
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  Speaker 2: shows that I watch. I do make reading lists for
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  Speaker 2: those as well. And these were not in existence when
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  Speaker 2: I started. So I currently have like Gossip Girl in
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  Speaker 2: the office and all kinds of Boy Meets World. They're
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  Speaker 2: coming out with a book and I made a Boy
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  Speaker 2: Meets World list. Um, so I think Ted Lasso might
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  Speaker 2: be next on my, uh, pop culture list to get
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  Speaker 2: a reading guide. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. And these, uh, these other reading lists,
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  Speaker 1: these are available at gilmorebookclub.com. Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Christine, you're just the best. We have so much more
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  Speaker 1: to get into, but unfortunately I got to stop you there.
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  Speaker 1: I got to stop you there because do you hear that?
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  Speaker 1: Do you hear that off in the distance? It's commercial. Sorry, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: We're back. It's Meet Me at Miss Patty's. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Easton Allen. I'm hanging out here with Christine Eckert,
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  Speaker 1: author of Meet Me at Luke's, the mastermind, the organizer
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  Speaker 1: behind the Gilmore Book Club. That's GilmoreBookClub.com. So you have
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  Speaker 1: some live events coming up. And before we get into that,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to ask you about Destination Stars Hollow
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  Speaker 1: in Brighton, Michigan. We talked about it on this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I was supposed to be there and then I got
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  Speaker 1: pulled into something else. I unfortunately couldn't make it. I
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  Speaker 1: was so sad to miss that event, but Christine was there.
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  Speaker 1: You had a book signing that sold out for Meet
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  Speaker 1: Me at Luke's. What was it like being at Destination
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  Speaker 1: Stars Hollow, Stars with a Z, I should say, in
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  Speaker 1: beautiful Brighton, Michigan? Tell me all about it.
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  Speaker 2: It was insane in the best of ways. The town, Brighton,
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  Speaker 2: just went all out. And I've been to several Gilmore
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  Speaker 2: Girls Festivals and I will go to the mall. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I love them. They're all on my bucket list. But
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  Speaker 2: just everything from like the dozies, you know, display with
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  Speaker 2: cornstarch in the back. And there was a bridal store
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  Speaker 2: that had people come out in their formal wear with
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  Speaker 2: umbrellas at the top. And you could just see them
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  Speaker 2: like it could have been anyone. You could just see
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  Speaker 2: them from the ground. It was amazing. that the whole
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  Speaker 2: main street just transformed themselves into Stars Hollow. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you could just walk around and feel like you were there.
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  Speaker 2: It was incredible. I also hosted the lookalike contest with Anne,
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  Speaker 2: one of the event organizers, and the fans just did
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  Speaker 2: an incredible job. Like I had a blast. I know
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  Speaker 2: I was there to sell books and sign books, but
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  Speaker 2: as a fan, that is one of my favorite things.
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  Speaker 2: And so to host that was amazing. And We had
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  Speaker 2: a really tough decision trying to narrow it down and
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  Speaker 2: like judge what the audience wanted. And we just had
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  Speaker 2: some incredible, incredible fans put like their heart and souls
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  Speaker 2: into gathering these looks that were like down to a T.
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  Speaker 2: Like this is the book that they had in their
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  Speaker 2: hand during this scene or something like that. Just incredibly detailed.
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  Speaker 2: It was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: That that's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Um, and, uh, a, um, a multi hyphenate over here.
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  Speaker 1: Cause she will host your lookalike contest. Uh, everybody out
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  Speaker 1: there that that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of things will host your book club a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, uh, you know, Gilmore book club, that is,
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  Speaker 1: that is the website and, uh, and the Instagram, I
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  Speaker 1: should say, um, you, uh, you host a lot of
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  Speaker 1: book clubs and just from browsing your website, there's So many.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that is so incredible. What what do
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  Speaker 1: you I've, you know, admittedly never been part of a
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  Speaker 1: book club. And it's something I've been getting. I read
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  Speaker 1: a lot in like high school and then I fell out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting back into it now. I'm very excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: My wife's an English lit major. She is very, very
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  Speaker 1: well read. She loves to read something she loves about
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  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls is how many literary references there are. what, uh,
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  Speaker 1: what's your favorite part about hosting book clubs? Like what
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  Speaker 1: about that community drew you in?
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  Speaker 2: Um, very much like your wife. I've always been a reader. Um,
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  Speaker 2: but I understand the feeling of, I mean, I also
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  Speaker 2: went through high school and we were reading grapes of
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  Speaker 2: wrath and I was like, what is going on? Why
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  Speaker 2: do I care about this? And I think for me, it's,
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  Speaker 2: Finding a way to connect with literature or with any
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  Speaker 2: piece of art, that's not necessarily the way that many
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  Speaker 2: of us have been brought up to look at it.
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  Speaker 2: Like a lot of us are sort of in a
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  Speaker 2: Paris mindset of you have to write the paper and
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  Speaker 2: know all the things and the dates and the facts
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  Speaker 2: and blah, blah, blah. The way I run book club
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  Speaker 2: is a little more Lorelei in I don't care if
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  Speaker 2: you finish the book. I don't care if you necessarily
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  Speaker 2: read it. You could watch the movie or the TV show.
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  Speaker 2: That's great. I just want you to show up and
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  Speaker 2: have an open mind and participate because once we get
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  Speaker 2: to talking about things, people are like, Oh, that character
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  Speaker 2: is really interesting. That's something I could pay attention to.
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  Speaker 2: Or now I am looking forward to reading this book
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  Speaker 2: that maybe I was feeling scared or intimidated by before.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very personal way of going through it. Like
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  Speaker 2: if something doesn't matter to you, I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: force you into knowing. This is one of the questions
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  Speaker 2: for my high school. How much, uh, Mr. Darcy is
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  Speaker 2: worth and how many pounds he has a year. And
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  Speaker 2: everybody always got that question wrong on test. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? That is not necessarily the point of
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  Speaker 2: Pride and Prejudice. That's not why people love it so
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  Speaker 2: much is because they know how rich Darcy is. That's
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  Speaker 2: not the point. So if something stands out to you
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  Speaker 2: and is important to you and your life, that's what
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  Speaker 2: I want to focus on. And that's what people connect to,
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  Speaker 2: those human experiences. And those are in every book. And
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  Speaker 2: that's what can really change people's outlook on reading, but
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  Speaker 2: also themselves. I've met a lot of incredibly smart, wonderful
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  Speaker 2: people who think that they're dumb because they can't read
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  Speaker 2: books in the way that we've been told to read books.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, you're the smartest, most creative person ever.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way that you're dumb, I promise. And it's
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  Speaker 2: just because they don't fit the whatever standardized test version
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  Speaker 2: of literature there is. Yeah. Changing that and getting people
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  Speaker 2: to really connect with it is why I really love
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  Speaker 2: book club because it's not, it is a very no pressure,
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  Speaker 2: no shame, Lorelai type of book club for me.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. That makes me so excited. I am
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  Speaker 1: just so impressed by you. And Meet Me at Luke's,
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  Speaker 1: it is out now. And you have some stuff coming up. Really,
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  Speaker 1: really exciting. If people want to meet you, hang out
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  Speaker 1: with you, talk to you about books, about Meet Me
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  Speaker 1: at Luke's, about Gilmore Girls. Your next event as we
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  Speaker 1: record this, La Haska, Pennsylvania. Hope I'm saying that right.
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  Speaker 1: Mama Hawk's Luke's Takeover. You'll be there October 10th. And
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  Speaker 1: you'll be doing a signing at the LaHoska Bookshop from
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  Speaker 1: 1 to 3 p.m. So everyone go out and check
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  Speaker 1: that out. And then in Nashville in November on the 14th,
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  Speaker 1: you'll be at the Gilmore cookie decorating class. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: I am so jealous of everyone that gets to go
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  Speaker 1: to that. I'm so excited. That is so fun. Are
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  Speaker 1: you a cookie decorating person? Are you really good at it?
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  Speaker 2: So I think I could be if it were a
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  Speaker 2: thing that I did often, which it's not. I am
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  Speaker 2: more of a baker than I am a chef. I
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  Speaker 2: really hope there's some sort of Luke out there for
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  Speaker 2: me because I do not cook. We could put shoes
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  Speaker 2: in my oven. It would probably be fine. But I
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  Speaker 2: am excited to get back into it and have a self,
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  Speaker 2: not self-guided, but obviously there's a professional who does make
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  Speaker 2: these incredible looking cookies to sort of guide us how
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  Speaker 2: to do that ourselves. So I'm really excited to get
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  Speaker 2: back into that. And hopefully there are some more surprises
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  Speaker 2: and events along the way because every fall, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: every season in my mind, but every fall for the
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  Speaker 2: world is Gilmore season.
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  Speaker 1: And we are deep in Gilmore season right now. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for taking the time, Christine. You're just
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  Speaker 1: so cool. I'm so inspired by hearing you and looking
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  Speaker 1: at everything you've done. You're just the absolutely coolest person
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  Speaker 1: in the world. It's Christine Eckert, GilmoreBookClub.com. Everybody go check
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  Speaker 1: that out and check out Meet Me at Luke's. It's
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  Speaker 1: the best. She's the best. Thank you so much again
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  Speaker 1: and have so much fun at these events. Uh, decorate
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  Speaker 1: some cookies. Uh, thanks for joining me. I'll talk to
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  Speaker 1: you soon. Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: Have a good one.
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