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Science Has a Trust Problem · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start your
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day. You're listening to The West Carol Morning Show. Monday morning, seventh
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day of August. M West thanks for joining me. We got more and
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more kids getting back to school this week. Some today, some tomorrow.
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Muscogee County back in there tomorrow. It's all coming together as parents. Maybe
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scrambling. The Muscogee County ones, the ones that start back tomorrow, maybe
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they're scrambling a bit to get things together. Some are ready for that celebratory
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drop off. I know it can be bittersweet. It's the end of summer.
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You think about all the things that you didn't get to do for the
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summer, all the travel and vacations that you wanted to do. You had
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high hopes, you had high expectations, and they don't always pan out.
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They don't always happen. You want them to happen. You want to do
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all those things, but there's limitations. There's time limitations, there's financial limitations.
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And as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, this seemed to
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be the summer of the big vacation. This is where we had a lot
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of folks that decided this is the year I'm going to make up for lost
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time with COVID, and I'm going to do the big vacation, and we're
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gonna go to Europe and we're gonna hit two or three countries and just big
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travel plans or maybe cross country or I don't know, going to just any
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big vacation on the West Coast. Any opportunity to travel somewhere and experience something
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that you haven't been able to experience for a few years because the world was
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shut down. They took that away from us. You realize that was taken
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away from us. So if you wanted to do the Grand Canyon, it
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was probably hard. I do know some folks who did it in twenty twenty.
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But if you wanted to go to Europe, it was probably tough.
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If you wanted to go to Australia, it was impossible. Thankfully, our
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last trip to Australia happened right before all hell broke loose. Just the reality,
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that's what it was. In twenty nineteen beginning of twenty twenty. We
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got home just in time. We got in with the blessing of God from
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above that we were able to do our vacation and see family before all that
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was taken away from us, overall taken away by I don't know whoever you
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want to blame for it. There's a number of people I want to blame
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for it, and there's a number of people I suspect should be to blame
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for it. But I want to be very careful about what I say until
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all the evidence is out there. But it certainly points in the direction of
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certain people. They've certainly put themselves in a position to be blamed for a
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number of things, haven't they. Don't you think that's the case. I
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want to talk today about science, science, the importance of having valid scientists,
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and the the COVID thing ties into this because here we are at a
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point where we're having all these discussions. We're seeing these emails, these things
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that were sent by email by Tony Fauci that basically talked about what was going
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on in China, what was going on and on love and what was going
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on that Ultimately, as we now kind of understand, American funding was going
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there, and you know, we ended up with COVID. We ended up
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with this virus, this new virus that ravaged the world and took millions of
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lives, and we're starting to piece together a little bit about what went on
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behind the scenes. And the sad part about all this is there really does
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seem to be a disinterest and accountability. Right we have this desire to focus
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on the next presidential election and ignore the fact that a lot of what we
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went through in twenty twenty was about the presidential election. That's what it was
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about a lot of the things that we experienced and we went through, and
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now the focus is on shaping the outcome of the next election, because let's
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be on us the things that are happening to former President Trump. This is
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all about shaping the outcome of the next election. It's all about this constant
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struggle for power. There doesn't seem to be a desire or interest in looking
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backwards and holding people accountable for things like I don't know, millions of lives
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lost, businesses, folks, careers that were ended because of COVID family businesses
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that ended, this giant transition of wealth that was pounced on by world governments
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that was pounced on here. We had situations where you know, we're looking
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at green legislation that well, we can't wait on that. We got to
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make sure that that gets pushed through while we have the opportunity to do it.
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A number of things, and that green legislation is about transitioning wealth.
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That's what it's all about. It's about reshaping the entire structure of everything planet
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wide. Except when it come to China and a couple other countries that don't
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play by the rules, because we're not going to ask them to really,
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but we'll ask them to play by the rules from a distance, very softly
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under our breath. Could I don't know, okay, all right, well,
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thanks, Well, we'll talk to you about it again maybe next year.
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That's what we do. That's how we handle that. We look really
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tough and very we look really convincing about what we're going to do to save
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the planet. When we're allowing other people to do more to as we tell
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ourselves what we're doing is fixing the planet. Other countries do more to against
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what we're doing, and we still pretend like we're doing something that's going to
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fix the planet. So all of that is about transition of wealth. It's
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all about transition of power and wealth. That's what it's all about. It's
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all about power it's all about control. And one of the great travesties and
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what happened during COVID is that we got a better understanding now of the fact
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that, even though we were told repeatedly you have to trust science, you
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have to trust scientists, to trust science, sometimes scientists are the science.
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We heard that from Fauci. And you know our inability now to trust media,
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our inability to trust a lot of politicians on both sides. Really,
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but you can sit back and say, hey, there's people that I just
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don't trust. I don't understand what's coming out of their mouths. I don't
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trust them. But we have folks on both sides of the aisle that don't
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trust politicians on the opposite side, right, And realistically they probably don't trust
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all the people on their side, but they understand that they have to probably
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vote a certain way because you know, they're voting on the lesser of two
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evils. We've been convinced that's our best option, vote for the lesser evil.
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So when it comes to nominations, I can remember thinking in twenty sixteen,
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this is the worst two candidates I've ever seen in my lifetime that I'm
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going to have to make a decision and vote for one of them. We
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didn't know a lot about what Trump was going to do. We had no
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idea if Trump was going to deliver on the promises that he made during the
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campaign. I knew enough about Hillary Clinton to know how horrible of a candidate
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that she was, and I knew enough about her and the things in her
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past, things involving her husband, things that she at the very least just
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didn't do anything about it. Okay, So I just thought, this is
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horrible. We've we've put ourselves in a position where you have to pick between
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two evils. And then the Trump administration did a lot of very positive things
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when it came to our economy, when it came to business, when it
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came to correcting a lot of problems that we had, and a lot of
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the things that he did involved a guy saying, I know that presidents is
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just just kind of like you know, British Royalty, We're just kind of
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a figurehead. There's people behind the scenes that tell us what to do and
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run everything. But I'm the president. I'm going to run things. And
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people say, that's not how you do it, that's not how this works.
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You can't do that. You might have the title, but you're not
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really running things. We've seen that in a number of movies. Remember that
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movie Dave with Kevin Klein, that kind of thing. You know, we
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saw those sort of things play out in that and you go, the president's
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not doing anything. It's the people behind the scenes that are running things.
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That's that's the way it works. And of course Trump made a lot of
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people mad and he's paying paying the price for that right now. He's paying
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the consequences of that as he's trying to get elected again. And we'll see,
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we'll see where all that goes. And I told you Thursday my thoughts
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on what needs to happen, if if Republicans can actually unify and try to
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get some things done to fight back with that. But we know there's there's
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distrust there, there's distrust in media and the press. It's just when you
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realize the fix is in across the board, there's just a number of people
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that are complicit in trying to shape all of these things. And then you
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start questioning medicine in general. Where are we going with this when it comes
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to the financial gains in the medical industry for all of this when we started
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hearing reports of people dying in motorcycle accidents that they said died of COVID,
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or when people you know, have a parachute accident and they say, oh,
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they died from COVID. No, they died from slamming into the ground.
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I don't think that was a specific example. And that's why I use
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that one. I know there were people that actually died motorcycle crashes and they
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said, oh, it was because of COVID, and that's because hospitals.
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We're getting a kickback for that. I mean, that was going on in
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parts of the country. I don't know that it happened everywhere, but it
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happened in certain parts of the country. There were stories and reports of that.
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So anyway, distrust in medicine distrust when you had a vaccine that came
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along and people still don't really know how they feel about this vaccine. They
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still don't understand anything, and it makes if anything, it makes them distrust
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flu shots, and it makes them distrust all of it. So I don't
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know what's the answer to that. I don't know how do you get a
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trust back in medicine. But people were angry that we had various votes that
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maybe voted Democrat but wouldn't get on board with the vaccines. And you say,
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well, who are the people we're talking about, Well, black Americans?
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Well why would black Americans I don't know, maybe not trust the CDC
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or not trust Hey, we're gonna give you vaccines, You're gonna help you.
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I don't, I don't know. Look to Tuskegee. There's there's a
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historical precedent for that that is generational. We talk about slavery and things that
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had an impact on society today. From slavery, guess what, Tuskegee had
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a bigger impact on things more recently than something. It's it's more recent,
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is what I'm getting at. It was a more recent direct impact in that
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regard on the opinions and outlook on vaccines and trust for the CDC. Okay,
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and I have friends that well that we're very honest with me in that
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period when I said, why haven't you gotten vaccinated? And they're like,
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Tuskegee, Do I need to say anything else? No, No, that
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makes perfect sense to me. I understand that that's a completely valid reason to
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not trust it. So we had that, and then we had science in
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general, and we've gone through this for a while now, whether it's you
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know, warping figures when it comes to climate science, whether it's you know,
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kind of making up temperatures, and there's been cases of that, documented
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cases of people when I was supposed to be logging those temperatures, I wasn't
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very organized, so I had to go back and just kind of fill in
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temperatures. And there was a period of time when that was happening, so
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not even having valid data in some of the science that was happening with that.
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And then we've also got the case of and this is the story I
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want to eventually get to as I'm kind of rambling a bit, but the
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reality here when it comes to science and sort of misguided sciences. We've done
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this thing where we've we've had a number of celebrity scientists that have come along.
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We've had these people that come along and we say, you know,
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Bill Nye, let's get Bill Nye's thoughts on this, and he is he
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even really a scientist? What is his Is he really a science guy?
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That's been a questioned for a little while now. But people just you know,
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that's what they watched in school. They watched his head spin around in
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a circle and and say Bill, Bill, Bill, And they think,
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well, that's him, that's he must be a valid scientist to hear what
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his thoughts are on soft drink companies and climate science. And then there's another
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one who has really sort of sucked up a lot of the oxygen in the
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room when it comes to scientists, and that's Neil de grass Tyson. Now,
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famously, if you want to be mad at one single person, I
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guess when it comes to Pluto not still being a planet, he's one of
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the ones you got to be a little bit upset with. But Neil de
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grass Tyson is not afraid to insert himself into any type of science. He
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doesn't have to just talk about astrophysics and talk about space science. That's not
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really what he does. They like to say, hey, you're a famous
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scientist, what are your thoughts on this issue that we want you to agree
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with us on? And I guess he shared a video. I guess it
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was on Twitter on social media where he talked about the fact that he jumped
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into the subject of gender ideology and defended it. Now, I guess he
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went to TikTok I'm sorry it did eventually make it onto the other platforms,
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But he talks about basically saying that the XX and x y chromosome data is
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insufficient because people will exaggerate the features that help portray their gender of choice.
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So he said, you might wake up some days and you feel seventy percent
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male, so you wear a tank top and muscle shirt, and that some
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days you might feel seventy percent female, so you put on makeup and you
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go out and live your life. And he basically said that he knows that
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we're guaranteed life, liberty in the pursuit of happiness, and he wanted to
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know why it was important for anybody to even care. He wanted to know
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why do people care just because they can't understand that there's a spectrum. He
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said, what business is it of yours to require that I fulfill your inability
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to think of gender on a spectrum? Now this video, which by the
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way, there's no I mean, he speaks on things as if he's some
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sort of an expert on the topic. He does it about everything, and
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he's not. He's not a biologist in any way. You know, we
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heard that from a certain Supreme Court justice that you have to be a biologist
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to be able to answer the question what's a woman? And one person in
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particular who was not happy with exactly what he had to say is a Chloe
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who is herself someone who is d transitioning. She transitioned when she was young,
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and she's someone who now feels like she did not get the care and
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treatment that she needed in a confusing part of her time. And she's critical
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of Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about basically nineteen fifties stereotypes as it pertains to gender,
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and he basically says he says. When she and Tyson asked the question
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why is it your business, she said, it's my business because you're using
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fifties gender stereotypes to justify the ideology that leads to sterilization and mastectomies of fifteen
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year old girls who just don't fit in. Girls like me, she says,
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because the only thing that you've established in this video is that men wear
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trousers and tank tops, but women wear lipstick and dresses. The idea that
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people can be percentages of either male or female just further reinforces the fact that
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biological sex is binary. There are two only two there may only be two
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sexes, but there are an infinite number of personalities. I mean, it
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really doesn't take a degree in astrophysics to know that. And she basically is
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someone who spoke before Congress basically asking Congress to act against gender treatments and surgeries.
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And she says that because of what she went through, her childhood was
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ruined. She said, what message do I want to bring to American teenagers
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and their families? This is as she's testifying before Congress. She said,
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I don't need to be lied to. I needed compassion, I needed to
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be loved. I need to be getting therapy to help me work through my
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issues. Not affirmed to my delusion that by transforming into a boy it would
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solve all my problems. So she talks again about dangers and due process elations
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of gender firm and care. And that's what she was talking before the House
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about. So again, somebody who's actually lived this, someone who certainly knows
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this, more so than Neil de grasse Tyson, a scientist who is jumping
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into a science that he doesn't really he's not an expert in, not in
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any means or at all nothing. There's no reason for him other than he's
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just wanting to, you know, stick up for a group of people.
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And that may be the case, but he might want to think through what
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he's saying, because, as Cole is pointing out, he's basically confirming that
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there's two genders and a lot of different personalities. I mean, he's making
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the case that is normally reserved for people who tend to have a more traditional
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view of things, and he's even going as far as implementing the stereotypes.
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But he's pointing out the fact that, yes, someone can be born a
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man and live most of their life as a man, but have some days
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where they feel like, you know, dressing and acting as a woman.
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But that's different than deciding that you're a whole new group, whether you're a
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whole different pronoun or that you're a whole new whatever. He's basically affirming the
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fact that, yes, men and women. He only spoke of men and
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women in his example. He probably could have done a better job of that,
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except you know, he's an astrophysicist, so I don't know why anybody
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would expect him to have any knowledge of this. But this is one of
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those things where if he says something that you agree with, you say yeah,
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that's right, and you share his comments and you support him and you
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say, all right, way to go. If you don't agree with what
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he says, you probably just push it aside, and you're probably not complaining
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about him. Whereas I'm in a position where whether I agree with what he
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says or not, I just like to point out the fact that maybe this
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isn't really any of his concern I mean, he's certainly entitled to have an
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opinion about it, but to speak about it as if this is his specific
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knowledge base, this is his specific training, his education, this is what
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he's an expert in. If you want to talk to him about astrophysics,
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I could talk to him about that all day. We'd love to have him
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on the Mate of Stars podcast that doctor Shaun Krusen and I do together every
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Thursday. We'd love to have him on to talk about astrophysics. That would
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be fantastic. I just don't know if I was hosting a show where we
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were talking about gender ideology, I would think that he really has any opinion
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West Carol Morning Show right after the break. Okay, so some people are
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very I guess most people seem to be very much into this Barbie movie not
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everybody is, though there does have its share of critics. Well, if
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nothing else has come out of Barbie other than a lot more pink being everywhere,
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there's a Barbie botox trend that is catching on since the movie came out,
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as basically, the whole idea is that you try to create an elongated
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neck look by forcibly relaxing the trapezius muscles. Dermatologists say it's a subtle effect
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meant to mimic the unrealistic standards set by Barbie. So there's that going for
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us. I think it's always interesting when you know people say, oh,
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but you would love Barbie. It's at a positive message for women. However,
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there's always this other side, right, there's always this other side of
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it that seems to rear its head from time. It's perfect head on its
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perfect elongated neck that seems to rear its head from time to time. Right,
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Speaking of women, there's a woman by the name of Kimberly Winter who
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recently set a new female record for the loudest burp ever. The Maryland woman
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said that she'd been a loud belcher all her life and she spent years mastering
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her craft and experimenting with different foods and drinks to figure out the perfect mixture
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to fuel her belches. She recently put out a belch that measured at a
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volume of one hundred seven decibels, earning her the Guinness World Record for the
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loudest burp buy a female that's louder than a blender, a handheld drill,
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some motorcycles at full throttle. The male record, by the way, is
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one twelve point seven. So she's getting up there. She's close. She's
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asking the question online, saying that when he visited Utah, every milkshake in
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the state was served with a straw. I'm sorry, with a spoon because
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a straw would not get the milkshake into your mouth, and he asked the
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question, if you need a spoon to eat a milkshake, isn't it just
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ice cream? It's a good question, you know. I've heard people refer
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to Frosty's at Windy's as milkshakes. They're really not, I don't think so.
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They don't call it a milky, even call it ice cream if you
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pay very careful attention to that. That's another component of it too. They're
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still delicious, but they're not pretending. I think that it's ice cream,
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especially any place it serves, you know, soft serve. They don't really
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call it ice cream because it's something else, isn't it If as we get
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closer to Halloween, understand where the sugar involved in making some Halloween candies could
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be impacted because rising prices and sugar shortages this year, cutting into production of
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mindy candy from candy makers, as raw cane sugar prices the highest they've been
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for the shortages, they say, is weather El Nino, cutting sugar crops
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by about fifteen percent worldwide. I would assume with the fact that we're in
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a very high inflationary period and have been for a little while, might have
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something to do with it. But of course, as always, there's a
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blame on the weather on everything, even when the more obvious answer might be
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there. Candy manufacturers also citing US agriculture policy requiring at least eighty five percent
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of sugar purchases come from domestic processors, and they say that's led to tight
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supplies and high prices as demand has risen. Pumpkin spice already starting to pop
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up in places. Apparently seven to eleven started putting out some of their pumpkin
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spice products already. If you live somewhere that has a seven eleven, you
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can go ahead and start getting that fix if you want. I guess participating
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locations would apply, but pumpkin spice lattees, pumpkin coffees, and pumpkin syrup
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and things that you can put on your cold drinks. So they said very
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soon they'll be rolling out the pumpkin spice muffins and things, so you can
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start expecting to see pumpkin spice back in full force. I would say by
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the end of this month at most places. That's just my guess. That'll
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