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Ken Kober - CPD Officer Assaulted. Where's is the City Manager? · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: The talk station 632 55 care cd talk station last
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  Speaker 1: minute guests are great signal 99 first and on the
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  Speaker 1: heels of that the return of insane police department president
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  Speaker 1: of the union fop president he ken cober ken good
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  Speaker 1: to hear you good to have you back on the
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  Speaker 1: show today to respond to the violence over the weekend
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  Speaker 1: and I was blown away by the beatdown that Signal
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  Speaker 1: 99 had a video of on her site this morning,
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  Speaker 1: and nobody else reporting on it yet anyway. But I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to know if you have any information on the officer.
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  Speaker 1: Is the officer or officers that were injured over the
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  Speaker 1: weekend in this brawl, are they okay?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning, Brian. Yeah, they're both okay. I've talked
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  Speaker 2: to one of them, and one of them is actually
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  Speaker 2: a pretty good friend of mine. It's just... It's one
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  Speaker 2: of those things where you show up to work, try
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  Speaker 2: to restore order, keep the city safe, and you have
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  Speaker 2: people that are doing everything they possibly can to make
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati the biggest toilet they can. And this weekend they succeeded.
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  Speaker 1: They sure did. Well, my understanding, it all started on
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  Speaker 1: Short Vine. Things got a little bit out of control
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  Speaker 1: with thousands of Halloween party girlers. So cops had to
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  Speaker 1: show up since the police ended up closing down Short Vine.
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  Speaker 1: But the entire crew just moved on over to the
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  Speaker 1: BP station at Jefferson and Corey. And, well, got involved
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  Speaker 1: in some property damage, and that's apparently where the police
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  Speaker 1: officers were hit, were beaten up. I just, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just still reeling over the fact that we live
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  Speaker 1: in a society where people think it's just okay to
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  Speaker 1: start wailing on a police officer. Again, someone's there to
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  Speaker 1: try to control the situation and keep people safe.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it certainly doesn't happen everywhere. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: happen in counties where you have law and order judges,
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  Speaker 2: where you have consequences for your actions. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: don't see something like this regularly happening in Butler, Warren, Claremont,
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  Speaker 2: Dearborn County. Things like this just don't happen there because
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  Speaker 2: people actually respect the rule of law for the most
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  Speaker 2: part in those counties, but not here in Hamilton County.
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  Speaker 2: We just allow people to do what they want, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure the assailant will be out of jail here shortly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, without question. Let's not overlook our friends in northern
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  Speaker 1: Kentucky and southeastern Indiana. Don't see those things going on
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  Speaker 1: in the counties that are in those areas either.
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  Speaker 2: No, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: You're right.
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  Speaker 2: It's because they have elected officials that are for law
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  Speaker 2: and order. And unfortunately, it's just something we are certainly
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  Speaker 2: lacking in Hamilton County.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly. Let's pause. We'll bring Ken Cobra back. FOP President
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  Speaker 1: Ken Cobra. God bless the Cincinnati Police Department. This is
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  Speaker 1: what they have to do. Show theme song music. We
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  Speaker 1: have FOP President Ken Cobra representing the Cincinnati Police Department Union.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, you made a comment about the judges, the
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  Speaker 1: judicial race. Of course, Signal 99 did the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's so important we get judges that are willing to
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  Speaker 1: be tough on crime. Signal 99 speculated that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people in that terrible street takeover that took over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend where the police officers got beat up, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them maybe had been juveniles. Maybe a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them had been processed through the very lenient juvenile
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  Speaker 1: court system. Judge Bloom has been a real problem. Juveniles
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  Speaker 1: are not treated with, I mean, anything but kid gloves.
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  Speaker 1: I always like to joke on it. It's like they
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  Speaker 1: give them a glass of juice and a cookie and
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  Speaker 1: send them back on their way. Juveniles turn into adults,
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  Speaker 1: and you might think that that might provide some relief
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  Speaker 1: and that, well, the big boy court would result in
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  Speaker 1: big boy prosecutions and big boy sentences, but that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: happen either, Ken. A little bit frustrating out there. Is
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  Speaker 1: it not for the police officers who have to go
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  Speaker 1: through this?
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  Speaker 2: Well, sure it is. It's a revolving door. And juveniles
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  Speaker 2: that grow up to rob and shoot each other are
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  Speaker 2: going to do the same thing when they're adults. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's just the reality of it. And once you get
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  Speaker 2: to adult court, right now in Hamilton County, you've got
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  Speaker 2: maybe a 40% chance of there actually being some resemblance
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  Speaker 2: of law and order in a courtroom. But that can
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  Speaker 2: change here tomorrow. People decide that they want to take
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  Speaker 2: Hamilton County back and they want to have a safer county. Well,
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  Speaker 2: they should probably vote for judges that support law and order.
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  Speaker 2: There's plenty of them on the ballot.
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  Speaker 1: There are. That would be Chris McDowell, Leah Dankelacher, Betsy Sunderman,
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  Speaker 1: Katie Cash, Roger Bouchard, Dennis Mahoney, Robert Gehring, Ralph Winkler
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  Speaker 1: for probate court, and yes, Susan Lukin for juvenile court.
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  Speaker 1: That would be a great start right there. Now, we
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  Speaker 1: have a gang problem. Signal 99 suggests we have a
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  Speaker 1: gang problem, but no one ever talks about it, and
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  Speaker 1: the instructions that she said are that the mayor's office,
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl Long, the city manager, do not want anyone to
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge or talk about the gangs that we actually do
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  Speaker 1: have in the city of Cincinnati. And I asked about
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  Speaker 1: Chief Henney, Interim Police Chief Henney. Shouldn't he come out
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  Speaker 1: and let us know about it? Should he not have
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  Speaker 1: come out over the weekend and talked about the street takeover?
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  Speaker 1: Silence seems deafening, and Signal 99 suggests that, well, he's
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  Speaker 1: been instructed not to use the word gang. We can't
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  Speaker 1: say we have gangs. And that just ignores reality and
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  Speaker 1: deprives the citizens of, I think, information we all need
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  Speaker 1: to know about. What's your take on that, Ken Kober?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's about how he ended up getting fired because
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  Speaker 2: she went out and she started publicly talking about things
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  Speaker 2: that either she was instructed not to or she wasn't
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  Speaker 2: given permission to talk about. So I understand if the
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  Speaker 2: interim chief's not saying something, it's typically because he's been
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  Speaker 2: told by his boss not to. And that does not
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  Speaker 2: surprise me. I've seen it time after time again.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and the boss in this case would either be
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  Speaker 1: mayor after Burwell or the city manager.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. Cheryl Long.
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl Long.
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt. I mean, we've seen emails from Cheryl
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  Speaker 2: Long to T.G. when she was still there saying, you
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  Speaker 2: need to tell me before you talk about X, Y,
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  Speaker 2: or Z. We used to have a gang unit. We
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  Speaker 2: actually had a unit called the gang unit in the
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati police. Now, understand that those task force, they change names. very,
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  Speaker 2: very frequently, normally every couple of years. Their mission typically
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  Speaker 2: stays the same. And it's, of course, to go find
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  Speaker 2: violent criminals and get them off the streets. Whether it's
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  Speaker 2: gang-related activity, whether it's random violence, but there certainly is
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  Speaker 2: an organized effort of gangs in Cincinnati. regardless if politicians
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  Speaker 2: want to admit it or not.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and just by changing the name, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: rose by any other name would smell as sweet. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we got that old adage. And this just seems to
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  Speaker 1: be some Orwellian exercise. You know, if it looks like it,
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  Speaker 1: it smells like it, it sounds like it, it tastes
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  Speaker 1: like it, it is. You can call it whatever you want.
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  Speaker 1: It's a gang, for God's sake. We all know what
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  Speaker 1: the definition of gang is, so calling it something sort
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  Speaker 1: of more politically correct doesn't change the underlying nature. Our
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  Speaker 1: city's got a crime problem on its hands, driven in
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  Speaker 1: large part by gangs.
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  Speaker 2: No, of course not. I mean, we now have what
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  Speaker 2: used to be the gang units now called CGIC, the
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  Speaker 2: Crime Gun Intelligence Center. I mean, I guess we should
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  Speaker 2: rename that and we'll just say we don't have a
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  Speaker 2: problem with gun violence. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, food stamps used to be called food
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  Speaker 1: stamps and then they called it SNAP. Welfare didn't used
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  Speaker 1: to be or used to be called welfare. And then
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  Speaker 1: they changed the name of it because I guess it
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  Speaker 1: had a bad ring to it. But it's all the
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  Speaker 1: exact same system with a different name. Nothing's changed. You
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  Speaker 1: haven't fooled anybody.
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  Speaker 2: You know. You're absolutely right. The people that are intelligent
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  Speaker 2: enough to see through this stuff, they see through it
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  Speaker 2: pretty darn easily. When you have people standing on the
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  Speaker 2: street corner, there's drive-by shootings going on. That's not because
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  Speaker 2: they're a Bearcat fan and they got beat by Utah
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  Speaker 2: this weekend. It's because they're fighting over drug trade and
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  Speaker 2: things like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and a lot of talk's been made about sanctuary cities,
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  Speaker 1: and I know Vivek Ramaswamy promises that he will end
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  Speaker 1: sanctuary cities in this state should he get elected governor.
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  Speaker 1: Do we have a problem with illegal immigrant criminals in
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  Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati? Are there any figures out there?
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  Speaker 1: Do the police take an inventory about who they pick
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  Speaker 1: up on, whether they're in this country legally or not?
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  Speaker 2: Not completely, because.
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  Speaker 2: These people that are here illegally that are victims of crime,
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  Speaker 2: they don't report it. They just don't. They refuse to
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  Speaker 2: report when they're victimized because they're afraid of being deported.
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  Speaker 2: They're afraid to be discovered that they're here illegally. It's
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  Speaker 2: been a problem forever. But I would argue that we
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  Speaker 2: don't have the problem with illegals and violent crime that
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  Speaker 2: maybe other cities are experiencing, but it certainly is there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Ann, I think one of the things is it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you have a drug or alcohol problem,
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  Speaker 1: first step is maybe acknowledging the problem, and then we
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  Speaker 1: can take steps to resolve the conflict and problem. That's
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  Speaker 1: what we need to do. We need to have the
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  Speaker 1: city manager. We need to get Mayor Aftab Perval back
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  Speaker 1: from his Al-Sayed campaign, have him address the public and
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  Speaker 1: talk about what happened over the weekend and be honest
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  Speaker 1: about crime, admit that it exists, and admit that he
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  Speaker 1: will start working with and supporting the Cincinnati police officers
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  Speaker 1: going forward. Hell, the morale's bad enough, Ken Cobra. I
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  Speaker 1: understand that. It's a lot worse because the mayor just
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  Speaker 1: keeps his mouth shut insofar as supporting the police is concerned?
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty simple. You just have to tackle these things
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  Speaker 2: head on and not just bury your head in the sand.
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  Speaker 2: And unfortunately, that's what we see time and time again.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this weekend event on Jefferson Avenue very quickly
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  Speaker 2: could have turned into 4th and Elm Brawl last year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it certainly had all the makings for it.
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  Speaker 2: There were probably 10 times the amount of people fighting.
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  Speaker 2: Thank God no one was seriously hurt. That could have
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  Speaker 2: turned bad very, very quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Without question, this is something the police have to face
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  Speaker 1: all the time, that they are outnumbered. They are outnumbered.
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  Speaker 1: Numbers are down anyway with a contingent of police officers.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you've got a full contingent of police officers,
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  Speaker 1: how can they possibly deal with thousands and thousands of
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  Speaker 1: people at one time? I feel for you, Ken Cobra.
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  Speaker 1: I feel for all the police officers. And my listening
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  Speaker 1: audience has your back as well as all the Cincinnati
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  Speaker 1: police officers and all law enforcement. Who among us can
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  Speaker 1: do that tough job? damn it you guys are the
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  Speaker 1: best keep up the great work and we'll hope for
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  Speaker 1: a change and I hope my listening audience heeds your
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  Speaker 1: warnings and gets in and votes for the judges I
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  Speaker 1: just rattled off get the Republican Party pink sheet if
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  Speaker 1: you have any doubts Ken thanks again for the late
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  Speaker 1: time and Eric coming on the program it's always a
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  Speaker 1: pleasure having.
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  Speaker 2: You on yep thanks Brian to you and your listeners
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  Speaker 2: we appreciate your support and make sure you vote for
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  Speaker 2: law and order
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  Speaker 1: Tomorrow amen brother 646-55-KRC the talk station