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The Bolt Report | 13 August · The Bolt Report

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Speaker 1: This is the report it tonight, the ugly student protest
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Speaker 1: against Pauline Hanson today. Why the real threat isn't handsome
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Speaker 1: but the people trying to stop her. Plus Australia's biggest
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Speaker 1: mosque is funny for the right to broadcast the call
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Speaker 1: to prayer over their neighborhood. Well, the head of the
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Speaker 1: Muslim organization running that mosque has a frightening explanation for
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Speaker 1: that prayer.
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Speaker 2: If you don't return the call to prayer, then you've
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Speaker 2: got two choices. You either fight or you give a tax.
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Speaker 1: And plenty more tonight, including the astonishing news that our
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Speaker 1: ardaly f bases have been buzzed by drones one hundred
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Speaker 1: and forty seven times in one year and they can
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Speaker 1: do nothing to defend themselves. But first, you know, it's
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Speaker 1: no wonder this country is going broke under Anthony Albanese's
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Speaker 1: economically incompetent government. This government that today announced the bailout
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Speaker 1: to save a smelter by effectively giving each of its
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Speaker 1: one thousand workers two and a half million dollars of
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Speaker 1: your money to save their jobs. You don't believe it
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Speaker 1: could splash your cash like that, Well, let me take
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Speaker 1: you through it. Today, the Prime Minister went to the
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Speaker 1: time I Goo Smelter in New South Wales Hunter Valley,
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Speaker 1: that's a labor seaton of Patterson, to say that he
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Speaker 1: and Labor Premier Chris Minz would give the smelter two
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Speaker 1: and a half billion dollars and they were so keen
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Speaker 1: to talk about this that Premier mins thought he was
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Speaker 1: doing Albanzi a favor by stopping journalists from asking about
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Speaker 1: something else, like his stupid sexist joke about the Japanese
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Speaker 1: Prime minister's melons that's blown up into a diplomatic scandal
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Speaker 1: that Albanezi, with a jiggling hand, is clearly struggling to
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Speaker 1: explain away.
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Speaker 3: When I've talked here today, I've talked to here today.
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Speaker 3: Here's my hands. Look, I've answered this question many times.
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Speaker 3: The fact is, well, the fact is the fact is
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Speaker 3: that the Japanese Prime Minister and I have a very
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Speaker 3: good relationship the Japanese. The Japanese Ambassador's made very clear
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Speaker 3: statements indeed about how warm our dinner was, and it
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Speaker 3: was indeed it was.
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Speaker 4: Go and ask a thousand workers what they care about today, witlessly.
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Speaker 4: This is the biggest announcement to this region in a
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Speaker 4: generation fact.
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Speaker 5: Can we just talk about it.
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Speaker 1: For five minutes? Pathetic to see is stuttering, stumbling prime
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Speaker 1: minister needing a premier to step into protect him like that.
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Speaker 1: But okay, these guys want us to concentrate instead on
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Speaker 1: this tomago'deal two and a half billion dollars. Well that
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Speaker 1: is fine by me, because this stinks of yet more
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Speaker 1: government failure. A Tomogo smelter. It makes you aluminium that
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Speaker 1: takes enormous amounts of electricity. Big problem. Well you've seen
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Speaker 1: for yourself electricity bills under this government. So Tommogo's owner,
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Speaker 1: Rio Tinto said, can't do it anymore. Electricity costs just
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Speaker 1: too much. We are closing Tomogo unless you give us money.
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Speaker 1: And the government freaked. You see, this smelter is in
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Speaker 1: a labor seat. It could easily lose the one nation
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Speaker 1: if it killed off so many jobs in that electorate.
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Speaker 1: The smelter also has heavy union coverage. They wouldn't treatily
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Speaker 1: labor kindly if they lost all those jobs. And if
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Speaker 1: the smelter closed, the government would also be smashed for
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Speaker 1: its disastrous energy schemes. You know, look at that, and
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Speaker 1: of course another industry to collapse, all those poor workers
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Speaker 1: and be in no doubt Albanesi and Premier Mens made
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Speaker 1: a big deal about this being about saving those jobs
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Speaker 1: and not just about keeping an important industry, and.
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Speaker 3: The idea that we would sit back and watch this
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Speaker 3: facility just disappear is not in Australia's national interest. This
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Speaker 3: will produce a return to Australia. This is connected up
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Speaker 3: with an increasing clean energy which will drive this change through.
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Speaker 3: It's connected up with not just the jobs that are
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Speaker 3: created directly here, but they're indirect jobs that will flow
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Speaker 3: through the manufacturing sector right throughout this country.
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Speaker 4: Tom Ago has to remain open. It's too important in
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Speaker 4: terms of sovereign capability for local jobs, for ancillary jobs
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Speaker 4: in the local region.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we'll just do the mass two and a half
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Speaker 1: billion dollars to save the jobs of just one thousand
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Speaker 1: directly employed people. It's two and a half million dollars
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Speaker 1: for every one of those work two and a half mil.
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Speaker 1: That's money taken from workers in healthy businesses to prop
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Speaker 1: up workers in a failing one. How can that make sense.
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Speaker 1: Let's be fair. Let us hand those other workers indirectly
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Speaker 1: employed by the to smelter subcontractor supplies a five thousand
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Speaker 1: and all. Then that still works out to half a
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Speaker 1: million dollars. Like I said, half a million dollars of
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Speaker 1: taxpayers money for each and every one of them, half
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Speaker 1: a million per head. But the government also dressed this
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Speaker 1: up as you know, a way to cut emissions, get
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Speaker 1: more wind and solar power to prop up its failing
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Speaker 1: green agenda. Coal is too expensive.
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Speaker 6: Tom Ago will be powered by a new power purchasing
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Speaker 6: agreement supported by this deal that will see new investment
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Speaker 6: in wind and solar, back by storage and back by
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Speaker 6: gas in the electricity system that will deliver competitive electricity
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Speaker 6: prices here, but bring forward those investments. So it's supporting
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Speaker 6: new investment in the electricity system and that puts downward
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Speaker 6: pressure on prices.
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Speaker 3: The future of aluminium is decarbonized, and we are going
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Speaker 3: to help.
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Speaker 7: Make sure that they are an essential part of that future.
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Speaker 8: Globally.
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Speaker 1: Where Bone starts prattling about green schemes and especially about
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Speaker 1: the future, you know it's going to turn out anything
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Speaker 1: like what he claims. For instance, you know this is
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Speaker 1: the man who said, oh, my green schemes are going
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Speaker 1: to cut your electricity bills by two hundred and seventy
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Speaker 1: five dollars instead you've seen they've gone up instead, and
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Speaker 1: by double that amount. More so, really, I mean, you
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Speaker 1: know the idea of running a giant smelter and wind
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Speaker 1: and sol there is a hugely expensive joke. The opposition
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Speaker 1: leader was right today.
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Speaker 9: This is a two and a half billion dollar admission
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Speaker 9: of failure on energy policy in this country.
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Speaker 1: But it gets even worse, of course, because this kind
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Speaker 1: of bailout is now this goverment standard operating procedure. How
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Speaker 1: long can that last as a Ponzi scheme? I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, you first spend billions to make ellterricity too expensive,
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Speaker 1: and then you spend more billions on businesses to stop
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Speaker 1: them at least from going broke. Forget about the others.
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Speaker 1: I mean you look at all the smelters that government
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Speaker 1: so far bailed out like this spent seven point nine
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Speaker 1: billion dollars so far and counting after this time ago
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Speaker 1: bail out, plus another two hundred million it had to
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Speaker 1: give the other day to the earlier Wayala bailout, which
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Speaker 1: was also by the way, two and a half bill
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Speaker 1: to say still works to South Australia also employed just
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Speaker 1: one thousand people.
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Speaker 3: When you invest in the nation you get a return,
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Speaker 3: a return in jobs, a return in economic growth.
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Speaker 1: We haven't had that return because look, the bills since
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Speaker 1: Awayala have kept soaring. The government has struggled for more
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Speaker 1: than a year, and I have to actually sell that
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Speaker 1: way out of steel works that it had to take
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Speaker 1: over and run. I ask you, how can Australia grow
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Speaker 1: under an economic model that's looking more and more like socialism,
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Speaker 1: in fact even communism. A government running rubbish screen policies
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Speaker 1: that drive businesses broke and then subsidizing the unionized ones
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Speaker 1: it likes with billions it's had to borrow because it's
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Speaker 1: already so deep in debt. How does that kind of
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Speaker 1: economic plan work out? Do you think? Well, all in all,
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Speaker 1: it's been a very good day for Pauline Hanson. I
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Speaker 1: have to say. I mean it's funny in a way.
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Speaker 1: I mean the pressure she's put on both parties by
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Speaker 1: saying just I'm going to slash immigration, slash it two
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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty thousand a year. Right now it's
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Speaker 1: more than double that. Well, you see that pressure. Last
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Speaker 1: week you had Tony Burke, mister in charge of Immigration,
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Speaker 1: trying to present his plan to his fellow ministers to
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Speaker 1: cabinet to at least trim immigration, not getting anywhere near
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Speaker 1: what pull the Hanster is to just to meet the
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Speaker 1: government's own targets. The other ministers told him too tough,
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Speaker 1: go away, rethink. But today we saw the Opposition in
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Speaker 1: the same strife, also telling a front benure to just
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Speaker 1: shut up about it. You had Andrew Bragg, Now he's
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Speaker 1: not the immigration minister, he's just freelancing a bit. Yesterday
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Speaker 1: gave a big speech saying the Opposition would have to
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Speaker 1: cut net overseas migration to just one hundred and eighty
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Speaker 1: thousand if it's going to meet you know, have enough houses,
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Speaker 1: only be told by his leader that it wasn't his
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Speaker 1: policy to decide and he should put a sock in
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Speaker 1: it and stick to Taylor's foggier plans.
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Speaker 9: Look, Andrew expressed some of his personal views yesterday. I
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Speaker 9: made clear to him that his job is to expressed
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Speaker 9: that what can I finish, That his job is to
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Speaker 9: express the views of the Coalition and the senior team
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Speaker 9: of which he is a member.
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Speaker 10: But net overseas migration could get behind her als.
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Speaker 9: Well, as I say, ned overseas migration will depend on
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Speaker 9: a housing supply.
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Speaker 1: It will be capped. Migration will be cap based on
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Speaker 1: housing supply. No wonder poll's show that when it comes
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Speaker 1: to the leaders handling immigration vodus choose Pauline Hanson first
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Speaker 1: and Daylight second. But even better for Hanson, I guess
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Speaker 1: the melon mess. The melon mess remains today the big
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Speaker 1: political story, sucking the oxygen right from labor. I've heard
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Speaker 1: some commentators even on News twenty four so oh, look,
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Speaker 1: it's not really a big deal. It was a poor
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Speaker 1: joke at worse, you know, the Japanese Prime minister's melons
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Speaker 1: and look, you know Albanize like Albany, as you said today,
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Speaker 1: the Japanese ambassador's center him a nice note.
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Speaker 3: The Japanese Ambassador's made very clear statements indeed about how
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Speaker 3: warm our dinner was.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, of course that was arguing that the meeting
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Speaker 1: when the Japanese Prome ministers visited here in May with
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Speaker 1: ALBANIZI was warm. No one's that's not the issue. Whit
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Speaker 1: about the sexist joke afterwards in the storm that's caused,
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Speaker 1: in fact, Albanese's insult of Japan's prime ministers all over
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Speaker 1: the Japanese media, even the Nike When's top financial papers
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Speaker 1: had it today and the damage doesn't end there. I mean,
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Speaker 1: what about all the Albanesi governments female ministers who have
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Speaker 1: trashed their reputations as feminists by claiming Albanzi hadn't really
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Speaker 1: told a taki sexist joke at the Japanese Prime minister's expense,
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Speaker 1: but it was just you know, honestly, who couldn't take
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Speaker 1: those women seriously? That is part of the damage done.
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Speaker 1: But there's been another big development today in this story.
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Speaker 1: Happened in the Senate. Joining me is Senator James Patterson,
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Speaker 1: the opposition's defense spokesman, James Patterson, Great to see you again. Look,
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Speaker 1: every party in the Senate this afternoon except Labor, voted
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Speaker 1: to force the government to hand over documents about the
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Speaker 1: melon's scandal by next Monday. What documents and why.
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Speaker 7: This is really important? Andrew? It was bad enough that
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Speaker 7: the Prime Minister has insulted the Government of Japan, the
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Speaker 7: people of Japan, and the Prime Minister of Japan, But
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Speaker 7: in seeking to extricate himself from the mess he's put
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Speaker 7: himself in, it appears that his government has leaked confidential
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Speaker 7: correspondence from Japan to try and downplay the seriousness of
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Speaker 7: this incident and that could be a criminal offense. So
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Speaker 7: in the first instance we've referred it to the AFP.
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Speaker 7: But in the second instance, the Senate virtually united today
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Speaker 7: with the exception of the Labor Party, to vote to
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Speaker 7: force the Government release this correspondence in full and any
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Speaker 7: correspondence the Prime Minister's office has had with anyone else
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Speaker 7: about it, so we can understand what role they played
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Speaker 7: in leaking confidential correspondence from a critically important ally.
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Speaker 1: But doesn't the Prime Minister have a right to release
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Speaker 1: correspondence if he fit? I mean, what's the issue there?
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Speaker 7: Well, firstly, he hasn't transparently released it. He hasn't just
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Speaker 7: published it and said I'm doing this. It's been leaked
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Speaker 7: by someone, presumably in his office. Secondly, this is confidential
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Speaker 7: correspondence from a really close and important ally of Australia.
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Speaker 7: They weren't consulted about the release of this information. In fact,
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Speaker 7: they've been quoted by media outlets this week saying that
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Speaker 7: they were surprised to see it in the public domain.
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Speaker 7: If our allies can't have confidence in us that will
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Speaker 7: protect their correspondence, how can they trust us to keep
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Speaker 7: their secrets in a dangerous and uncertain world. So I
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Speaker 7: think it's very important this be investigated and we get
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Speaker 7: to the bottom of it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was really interesting the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: today in Parliament saying, oh, but listen, Japanese ambassador has
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Speaker 1: just said, you know, we had a very welcome, warm
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Speaker 1: meeting with the Japanese Prime minister. It didn't address the issue,
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Speaker 1: which is we're not talking about the meeting. We're talking
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Speaker 1: about the sexist jokes afterwards that seem to have offended Japan.
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Speaker 1: It's all over the papers, by the way in Japan now,
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Speaker 1: and I hear some journalists and commentator to say, oh, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: this is a trivial issue. See, you know, Japan isn't
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Speaker 1: that fast about it. It's a sexist joke at worst.
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Speaker 1: But I strongly disagree because the cover up has revealed
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Speaker 1: so much. What do you say though to that argument.
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Speaker 7: I think it's the great credit of the government of
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Speaker 7: Japan that they've tried to downplay this issue, but unfortunately
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Speaker 7: they can't unsay what the Prime Minister said, and they
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Speaker 7: can't undo those crude gestures that he made. I think
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Speaker 7: it's really important to remember that Sanoetaka Ichi is the
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Speaker 7: first female prime minister in Japan. It's a very significant
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Speaker 7: development for a conservative country to have a female prime minister,
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Speaker 7: and so for her to be so cruelly and classlessly
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Speaker 7: and crassly mocked by an allied friendly country like Australia
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Speaker 7: and our prime minister really is very demeaning, particularly because
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Speaker 7: he actually insulted the gift of the Imperial Melons, which
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Speaker 7: is a very important gesture from Japan to Australia, and
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Speaker 7: he's gone on a bawdy podcast to make light of it.
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Speaker 7: It's actually quite offensive and ill informed, and in a
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Speaker 7: classic case with Antheoberinezi, he's just incapable of admitting fault.
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Speaker 7: He's incapable of acknowledging when he gets things wrong, like
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Speaker 7: he lied about falling off the stage. You can't tell
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Speaker 7: the truth about stuffing up here. And he's now pressing
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Speaker 7: into service all his female cabinet ministers who've been so
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Speaker 7: vocal about attacks on women, to try and downplay this.
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Speaker 7: I think the hypocrisy just reeks.
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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, and just tresh the reputations. I think we've
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Speaker 1: got to be careful. The Japanese Prime Minister, in a
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Speaker 1: media release at the time, talked about one crown melon.
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Speaker 1: There might have been too, but her list nominated one.
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Speaker 1: I think it's all been easy for the sake of
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Speaker 1: a joke who talked about two like this. You know,
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Speaker 1: obviously to the joke wouldn't have worked with one melon.
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Speaker 1: I know it's a trivial detail, but I think we've
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Speaker 1: got to be clear about these things. But I initially
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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about something else before this
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Speaker 1: blew up again more today something really concerning. Have already
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Speaker 1: reported that drones from people unknown have buzzed the out
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Speaker 1: of a left base at Williamtown, New South Wales for
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Speaker 1: a couple of days in July without being intercepted. The
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Speaker 1: people at the base just told I will pull the
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Speaker 1: blinds down. Now we've learned that there in fact been
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Speaker 1: more than one hundred and forty incursions detected in defense
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Speaker 1: air spaces in just one year by these drones and whatever,
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Speaker 1: and the government today seem to have no answers, not
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Speaker 1: even to whether China, for instance, might have been behind it.
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Speaker 6: Have looked people who are doing this activity should stop it.
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Speaker 6: They will face the four of the law. It's absolutely unacceptable.
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Speaker 1: China, just stop it. Great great strategy, very cheap if
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Speaker 1: we can just do that. What did you make of
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Speaker 1: all this?
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Speaker 7: Well, whoever's doing this, Andrew, it's incredibly dangerous. Planes take
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Speaker 7: off and land on these bases and a drone could
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Speaker 7: do serious damage and hurt someone. It could be compromising
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Speaker 7: our national security intelligence because these bases collect and process
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Speaker 7: and analyze intelligence. And it's alarming that this vulnerability has
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Speaker 7: been advertised to the world, because it doesn't appear in
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Speaker 7: any of these instances that we've used counter drone capabilities
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Speaker 7: to safely take these things out of the sky. In fact,
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Speaker 7: in the case of Raf Williamtown, apparently that has went
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Speaker 7: and reported it to the New Southeales Police for them
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Speaker 7: to look into. Our bases need air defense, they need
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Speaker 7: defense from missiles, and they need defense from drones. We've
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Speaker 7: seen in Ukraine and Iran and Gaza how critical these
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Speaker 7: capabilities are. And Australia has this technology. We export it
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Speaker 7: to the rest of the world, including to Ukraine, but
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Speaker 7: just apparently we don't have them on our own bases.
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Speaker 7: So much so that the final layer of our apparently
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Speaker 7: layered defense on our bases is to close the shutters
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Speaker 7: of our offices on our bases so that cameras on
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Speaker 7: the drones can't see through. I mean, this is a joke.
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Speaker 1: It was a pretty sick joke. And I would actually
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Speaker 1: stress that if China had nothing to do with any
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Speaker 1: of these one hundred and forty seven incursions, they will
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Speaker 1: be they will have noted and learned a weakness in
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Speaker 1: our defenses. Just quickly before you go the toime ago
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Speaker 1: bailout two and a half million dollars to each worker there,
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Speaker 1: two and a half million to each permanent job to
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Speaker 1: save it Hoteling, up to two point five billion in all.
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Speaker 1: Even if you add the you know, in people indirectly employed,
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Speaker 1: it works out to five hundred thousand dollars per worker
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Speaker 1: this bailout deal. How can any jobs in the private
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Speaker 1: sector deserve that kind of subsidy?
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Speaker 7: Well at its extraordinary expenditure of taxpayer money, And it
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Speaker 7: is obviously unsustainable. If every heavy industry in Australia needs
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Speaker 7: to be bailed out by the federal government like this,
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Speaker 7: it's not going to lead to more efficient or productive economy.
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Speaker 7: And the particularly gauling thing about it, Andrew, is it
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Speaker 7: is only necessary because electricity has become so unaffordable because
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Speaker 7: of an issue which you've pursued very consistently for a
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Speaker 7: very long time, which is the ideology of net zero,
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Speaker 7: and Labor cares more about their commitment to that ideology
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Speaker 7: than they care about the workers or about our economic
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Speaker 7: competitiveness or productivity. And so I think it's very important
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Speaker 7: that my party has recognized that that we are committed
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Speaker 7: to abandoning net zero because we want these industries to
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Speaker 7: be able to stand on their own two feet. We
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Speaker 7: don't want them to have to be bailed out like this.
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Speaker 7: We've gore not be able to afford to boil everyone
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Speaker 7: out like this, and so we need to make energy
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Speaker 7: competitive and affordable again, and we will.
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Speaker 1: Are you against that subsidy for Tommaga, Well.
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Speaker 7: I don't want to see it closed like this is
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Speaker 7: an important industrial facility. I don't want to see the
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Speaker 7: aluminum smelting industry in Australia depart. I wish it wasn't necessary. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 7: Labor has to put a band aid on their broken
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Speaker 7: energy policy. What we've got to do, Andrew, is fix
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Speaker 7: our energy policy so that this isn't necessary in the future.
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Speaker 1: It's not a band aid, it's the whole medicine cabinet
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Speaker 1: on this thing. And the hospital as well. It's just
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Speaker 1: sensational to me, and they keep doing it. They keep
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Speaker 1: doing this is what the fourth or fifth deal. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's just anyway, what a strange way to run an economy.
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Speaker 1: James Patterson, thank you very much for your time.
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Speaker 7: Thanks for having me, Andrew.
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Speaker 1: After the break Today's student protest against Pauline Hanson. While
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Speaker 1: it's these students who are the real threat, plus the
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Speaker 1: astonishing explanation for the Muslim called the prayer from the
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Speaker 1: people running our biggest mosque. Now, I really warned last
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Speaker 1: week that no, shouldn't excuse Today's protest against Pauline Hansen
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Speaker 1: is a protest by students who fundamentally meant well no,
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Speaker 1: this was a protest as chief organizers included members of
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Speaker 1: the hardline Marxist group Socialist Alternative, which wants to smash
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Speaker 1: our capitalist system, which wants to stage physical street confrontations
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Speaker 1: against people that doesn't like, and which has a front
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Speaker 1: group which last year was behind a protest in Melbourne
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Speaker 1: at which police were pelted with rocks. So we're talking
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Speaker 1: about a group and a protest which actually appeals to
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Speaker 1: thugs and bullies, to our worst instincts, there would it
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Speaker 1: be nice people at this rally, but also some very
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Speaker 1: unpleasant one. Indeed, what happened today the crowns of students
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Speaker 1: skipping school. Many private schools were not big, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of people there didn't actually look like students at all,
21:57
Speaker 1: but many shore showed an allegiance to forms of Marxism
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Speaker 1: that led to bloody tyrannies in the past and use
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Speaker 1: Twenty four reporter Georgie Dickinson sure learned that somewhere indeed
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Speaker 1: bullies opposed the free speech and the free media.
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Speaker 11: Similar sentiments to where Haser is.
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Speaker 12: Give him back, give it back, give.
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Speaker 1: Give Georgie is pretty good there are the emeny of
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Speaker 1: rebel news found the same sort of thing. Of course,
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Speaker 1: protests are screaming absolutely foul abuse at him and physically
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Speaker 1: crowding him to stop him talking to anyone or moving freely.
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Speaker 13: This is.
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Speaker 2: The media, this old media, free pressed work mate, it's
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Speaker 2: unhealthy your obsession with me.
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Speaker 5: You've already been moving. What are you doing this?
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Speaker 1: This is Melbourne, Australia. Who's going to move to media on?
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Speaker 2: Who can move media on?
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Speaker 1: You got to ask what danger the students are protesting against.
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Speaker 1: What's so dangerous about Hansen, which could be worse than
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Speaker 1: the danger of their brand of politics and the methods
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Speaker 1: of trying to stop her. I mean to Georgia Dickinson again.
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Speaker 11: This individual is being escorted by around ten officers that
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Speaker 11: you can see here with this large crowd of people
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Speaker 11: actually following the police.
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Speaker 14: To get out of the way.
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Speaker 11: So this is a state of the protest at the moment.
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Speaker 11: They had remained relatively peaceful for the most part, but
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Speaker 11: did become quite abrasive quite quickly.
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Speaker 1: So no, and like you should have heard the foul
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Speaker 1: language of the Georgie Wills recorded the musing these the
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Speaker 1: parents of these protests, they should be ashamed by their parenting.
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Speaker 1: In fact, many protests seemed as ignorant as you'd expect
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Speaker 1: of people that age, but also at the same time
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Speaker 1: totally sure of their rightness of course, which is one
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Speaker 1: of the things that makes can make the young so dangerous.
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Speaker 14: Just how she acts and stuff like as my sign says,
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Speaker 14: she is racist, sexist and a Nazi and just no
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Speaker 14: one really wants as a president or not president like minister.
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Speaker 1: And there was this kind of criticism of Hansom by people.
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Speaker 1: This one's an organizer by the way, who dress up. No,
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Speaker 1: not this one. People who dressed up almost in a
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Speaker 1: stereotype of people determined, you know, the kind determined to
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Speaker 1: be against anything daddy does.
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Speaker 10: Had just sat up for what's right and show what
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Speaker 10: kids want?
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Speaker 14: And what is that?
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Speaker 5: What do kids want?
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Speaker 2: Ah?
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Speaker 6: Freedom and what diversity?
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Speaker 15: We're here to say no to the fascist far right
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Speaker 15: policies of Pauline Hanson.
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Speaker 11: Protesting for what's right and like, what's wrong with what
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Speaker 11: she's doing?
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Speaker 1: I mean the people with hairs you know, stuck out
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Speaker 1: like this as well, and multi colored hair and the
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Speaker 1: whole lot. You even got one rally organizer accusing Hanson,
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Speaker 1: who's a female leader, right, female leader of perhaps Austraia's
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Speaker 1: most popular party, of being sexist.
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Speaker 14: I mean, seriously, we've planned this protest today because paul
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Speaker 14: and Hanson is advocating far right, sexist, racist politics.
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Speaker 1: Joining me our News twenty four hosts James Smithpherson and
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Speaker 1: communications consulting Christi McSweeney has worked for coalition prime ministers
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Speaker 1: and premiers. James, what did you make of that protest?
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Speaker 1: I mean, is it just children? Is it so cute
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Speaker 1: that they get engaged in politics? Are so healthy? Or
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Speaker 1: is it a socialist alternative initiative that exposes the kind
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Speaker 1: of brutality and ignorance inherent in that brand of politics.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think it may be the latter, Andrew, this
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Speaker 15: protest was opportunistic, confused, and the sign of things to come.
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Speaker 15: Let me go through those. It was opportunistic in this sense.
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Speaker 15: These kids had the choice between being in class doing
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Speaker 15: elgebra or meeting up with a bunch of kids from
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Speaker 15: other schools in the town square to yell the F
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Speaker 15: word at the top of their voice. Why do you
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Speaker 15: think they were there? You know my son's Andrew. They're
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Speaker 15: adopted from Ethiopia. I said to one of my boys
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Speaker 15: the other day, would you have gone to this protest?
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Speaker 15: He said, Dad, if it meant a day of school,
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Speaker 15: I would have protested against Ethiopians being allowed to live
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Speaker 15: in Australia. So I think that pretty much suns up
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Speaker 15: the teenage mindset. It wasn't just opportunistic, it was confused,
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Speaker 15: as we saw in the grabs you showed. But I
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Speaker 15: mean we had kids holding signs saying f Pauline Hansen,
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Speaker 15: pick love. Another sign said if Pauline Hanson we want diversity.
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Speaker 15: That doesn't really work. But my favorite were kids chanting
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Speaker 15: if Pauline Hanson while holding signs saying say no to hate.
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Speaker 15: These kids were opportunistic and confused. But unfortunately, and seriously,
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Speaker 15: I think it's a sign of things to come because
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Speaker 15: they were organized. They didn't do this themselves. They were
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Speaker 15: organized and not only by fringe activists. I mean the
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Speaker 15: deputy leader of the Greens, Marine Ferruki, was going on
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Speaker 15: social media touting for kids skip school go to these protests.
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Speaker 15: You showed us very well the kind of protests these were.
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Speaker 15: If this is what they're willing to do to manipulate
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Speaker 15: kids now eighteen months out from an election, can you
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Speaker 15: imagine if Pauline Hanson continues to go well in the polls,
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Speaker 15: what they will do six months, three months, four weeks
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Speaker 15: out from an election. Unfortunately, I think we're going to
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Speaker 15: see a lot more of this and worse.
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Speaker 1: This is my absolutely sh shocked face. James marrying Ferruki
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Speaker 1: was there? Gosh wow? I mean seriously, is there not
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Speaker 1: a trash protest that she wouldn't attend? I don't know
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Speaker 1: what did you make of it, Christy?
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Speaker 10: I think James's right it was opportunistic, but opportunistic of
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Speaker 10: activist organizers who targeted school children, who gave out materials
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Speaker 10: in advance of this, who used quite inflammatory language to
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Speaker 10: attract young people to want to join it. And we've
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Speaker 10: seen the breadth of the critical thinking what they're offering
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Speaker 10: up in terms of when asked just exactly what they're
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Speaker 10: protesting against, not being able to recognize that Pauline has
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Speaker 10: and is the leader of a party. She might be
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Speaker 10: the president, she might be the minister, but we'll just
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Speaker 10: call her a Nazi. And by the way, there are
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Speaker 10: laws in this country against defaming somebody in that way,
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Speaker 10: and that girl is very lucky if she's not a teen.
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Speaker 10: Not to make prejudice on anything. But these are the
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Speaker 10: sort of instances where we see with our young people
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Speaker 10: who are encouraged by this activist minority to go out
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Speaker 10: and do these things and say these things with very
29:14
Speaker 10: little critical thought. Now they may not like Pauline Hanson,
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Speaker 10: but I'm quite certain it's bundled up and a whole
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Speaker 10: lot of other things that they don't really know much about,
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Speaker 10: that they're used as pawns in a game of these activists.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, And I think the brutal language betrays brutal minds.
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Speaker 1: You know the F word doesn't shock me naturally. I
29:39
Speaker 1: just know that people who use it the kind of
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Speaker 1: minds they have in that context. I just heard James
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Speaker 1: the most incredible interview by Gummill Keir, the secuary of
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Speaker 1: the Lebties Muslim Association. That's the association that runs the
29:54
Speaker 1: Lakember Mosque, which is Australia's biggest. This mosque has been
29:58
Speaker 1: trying to get the local councilor it brought an amplified
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Speaker 1: call to prayer from the mosque's minaret like this. Now
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Speaker 1: the Canterbury Banks Sound Council is so far against the idea.
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Speaker 1: But then I heard gamal Ki's explanation of that call
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Speaker 1: to prayer and I must say James was chilling have listened.
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Speaker 2: From Mohammed pieceper ponting when he went to another territory.
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Speaker 2: Traditionally what would happen was they would be the people
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Speaker 2: of that city or town or village, whoever it my
30:36
Speaker 2: case may be, would be given three options the court
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Speaker 2: to prayer, which means they've accepted the Islamic faith because
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Speaker 2: they'd say the quart to prayer and they would reply
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Speaker 2: the quarter preer. So it's not a quarter preyer saying
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Speaker 2: we've dominated is ours now. So the quarter prayer is
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Speaker 2: exactly the opposite of the analogy that you've given. It's
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Speaker 2: not that we've conquered, it's to say we are here.
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Speaker 2: If you reply, return the court to prayer back to us,
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Speaker 2: then that's an assumption on our behalf that you've accepted
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Speaker 2: the faith, and then we leave you alone. If you
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Speaker 2: don't return the court to prayer, then you've got two choices.
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Speaker 2: You either fight or you give a tax, and then
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Speaker 2: you're under our protection.
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Speaker 1: If you don't return the call to prayer, then you've
31:20
Speaker 1: got two choices. You're either fut or you pay a
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Speaker 1: tax to the Muslim authorities, and then you're under their protection. Look,
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Speaker 1: I know you started off saying this is historically how
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Speaker 1: it was, but at the end it seemed like he
31:32
Speaker 1: was speaking that it's still this way. Least that's how
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Speaker 1: it seemed to me.
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Speaker 15: Your response, well, firstly, I'd like to thank gamil Cair
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Speaker 15: for his honesty.
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Speaker 1: It was refreshing.
31:42
Speaker 15: Anyone who knows what the call of prayer says understands
31:45
Speaker 15: it's not just a nice part of the multicultural tapestry.
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Speaker 15: It's not some polite invitation. It literally begins Allah is greatest,
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Speaker 15: not Allah is great. Allah is greatest. In other words,
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Speaker 15: our God supersedes all of your gods. It then goes
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Speaker 15: on to say there is no God except Allah. In
32:03
Speaker 15: other words, our God is greater and should dominate your gods.
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Speaker 15: And then it gets even more specific Andrew, because Islam
32:11
Speaker 15: is the new faith on the block. Unlike Hinduism Buddhism,
32:15
Speaker 15: which came well before Christianity, Islam came six hundred years
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Speaker 15: after christ. And the third line of the call to
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Speaker 15: prayer says Mohammed is the messenger of God, which is
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Speaker 15: a direct assault on the person of Jesus. And so
32:29
Speaker 15: anyone who knows anything about the Call to Prayer understands
32:33
Speaker 15: it's not the equivalent of church bells. It's a direct
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Speaker 15: assault on the Christian faith.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like a challenge Christian amount of time. But
32:43
Speaker 1: I just need to hear your take on this.
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Speaker 10: I think, like so many religions, and particularly some religions
32:50
Speaker 10: who have an extremist element, we are at the mercy
32:55
Speaker 10: of how communities interpret those religious doctrines. And you know,
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Speaker 10: it's not always the right way that we would prefer.
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Speaker 13: It to be.
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Speaker 1: No, I think people just need to be honest about
33:11
Speaker 1: all this, what it really all means, instead of trying
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Speaker 1: to pretend all religions are alike, They're not all alike,
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Speaker 1: they don't intend to be alike. And there you go.
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Speaker 1: You've got to have your eyes open to what's at
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Speaker 1: stake instead of doing the great Australian I hear nothing,
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Speaker 1: I see nothing, I say nothing. James of First and
33:29
Speaker 1: Christian mcsweeny, thank you very much to you both. After
33:32
Speaker 1: the break new evidence that this climate crisis and the
33:35
Speaker 1: Abbeties government's spending billings is supposedly stop is no crisis
33:39
Speaker 1: at all. So why are we spending hundreds of billions
33:46
Speaker 1: of dollars on green schemes like the one we saw
33:49
Speaker 1: today with this Thoma goo smelt a bailout? Well, it's
33:52
Speaker 1: because we are told our emissions are creating a climate crisis,
33:56
Speaker 1: so I've got to go green. But is it true?
34:00
Speaker 1: Where is the evidence of this crisis? And is the
34:03
Speaker 1: cost of trying to stop it actually worth it? Well,
34:05
Speaker 1: the prominent climate research in one of the world's top
34:08
Speaker 1: experts on hurricane damage, try to answer that first bit
34:11
Speaker 1: by creating a kind of database that you get nowhere
34:15
Speaker 1: else that I've seen not in this easy to follow
34:18
Speaker 1: way when well footnoted. It's a dashboard that looks like this,
34:22
Speaker 1: and I'll pick out bits of it in a minute,
34:23
Speaker 1: so you don't need to train and read it all.
34:25
Speaker 1: But it is a dashboard of eight key measures of
34:27
Speaker 1: this supposed climate change, and they show just two of
34:30
Speaker 1: them detect any long term change. Now, I have to say,
34:34
Speaker 1: these are so far figures just for the United States.
34:37
Speaker 1: The one for the rest of the world will be
34:39
Speaker 1: released in a few weeks. I'll bring that one to you,
34:42
Speaker 1: but I'm told it won't be much different. Indeed, you know,
34:46
Speaker 1: the Australian figures are much like what this dashboard says
34:50
Speaker 1: about US hurricanes or cyclones. No detectable change over the
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Speaker 1: past one hundred years. In Australia we were actually get
35:01
Speaker 1: fewer cyclones over the last sixty years, it also says.
35:06
Speaker 1: And no change in droughts this century or for that matter,
35:10
Speaker 1: no any change in floods or winter storms or tornadoes.
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Speaker 1: No detected change in the number of wildfires or what
35:19
Speaker 1: would call bushfires over forty years, and so on. You've
35:22
Speaker 1: got to say, what global warming crisis? Then join me
35:26
Speaker 1: to discuss this and what it means for Australia. Is
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Speaker 1: the man behind this work, Roger Pielke Junior, one of
35:32
Speaker 1: the world's soup authorities and hurricane damage as I said,
35:34
Speaker 1: but also former professor of the Cooperative Institute for Research
35:38
Speaker 1: in Environmental Sciences. I spoke to him a short while ago.
35:41
Speaker 1: Roger Pielke always great to talk to you. Look, we
35:44
Speaker 1: should first mention the two areas where you did find
35:48
Speaker 1: a change over time. First, a detective change in the US,
35:52
Speaker 1: at least in heat waves. How serious is that? I mean,
35:55
Speaker 1: Europe's going through one right now. And is that all bad?
35:59
Speaker 1: Given many more people will actually dine cold with it
36:01
Speaker 1: than in haught.
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Speaker 5: Whether it's good or bad depends on where you are
36:05
Speaker 5: and what your circumstances are. In the United States, as
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Speaker 5: in parts of Australia where there are some very hot
36:11
Speaker 5: regions like in Arizona and Phoenix, everyone has air conditioning.
36:15
Speaker 5: But if you're in Portland up in the Northwest, where
36:18
Speaker 5: it's often cool and cloudy, an increase in heat waves
36:21
Speaker 5: could be very problematic because the infrastructure just isn't built
36:24
Speaker 5: for that.
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Speaker 1: But do you consider this a significant, frightening change that
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Speaker 1: we need to do something about.
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Speaker 13: It?
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Speaker 5: Is an important change and it's one that's expected to
36:38
Speaker 5: continue into the future. And one of the things to
36:41
Speaker 5: understand about extreme weather, and even where detection has occurred,
36:46
Speaker 5: that there have been changes, and that's been attributed to
36:48
Speaker 5: greenhouse gases. There is no carbon dioxide control knob for
36:53
Speaker 5: extreme weather. And so if we do, indeed expect as
36:57
Speaker 5: the scientific community does, more and more tense heat waves,
37:01
Speaker 5: that means we have to improve our adaptation. Europe has
37:04
Speaker 5: learned that in a big way this past year. It's
37:07
Speaker 5: shocking to understand how few Europeans actually have air conditioners.
37:12
Speaker 5: In fact, air conditioning became a political football over the
37:15
Speaker 5: last summer there because of concern that if you put
37:20
Speaker 5: in air conditioning you won't reduce greenhouse gas emissions, but.
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Speaker 1: If you don't put in air conditioning, you increase lives loss.
37:29
Speaker 1: You also found that while there were fewer fires, the
37:34
Speaker 1: land burned by fire was actually more. That made me wonder,
37:38
Speaker 1: is that a function just of climate change or also
37:40
Speaker 1: something else land management? And I must say these are
37:43
Speaker 1: figures for America.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change actually does not
37:51
Speaker 5: assess wildfires. They assess what's called fire weather, which is
37:55
Speaker 5: hot and dry conditions related to fire. It turns out
38:00
Speaker 5: that area burned, the frequency of fires are impacted by many,
38:05
Speaker 5: many factors, well beyond just the climate. The climate is important,
38:09
Speaker 5: it's only one factor. If you want to understand trends
38:12
Speaker 5: and fire, you have to understand things like forest management
38:15
Speaker 5: where people live in the wild land, or as you
38:18
Speaker 5: would say, the bushfire urban interface. You have to understand
38:21
Speaker 5: that most fires are started by humans, whether it's accidental,
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Speaker 5: a spark, or as we've seen in the United States
38:29
Speaker 5: this year, by arsonists. So understanding the causality behind fire
38:33
Speaker 5: regimes is actually very complex, even acknowledging that there's an
38:39
Speaker 5: important role for climate.
38:41
Speaker 1: And I should also point out that pure Lamborg has
38:44
Speaker 1: put out a graphic showing that around the world, land
38:47
Speaker 1: burned by fire is actually decrease. But now we've talked
38:52
Speaker 1: about the two areas being upfront, the two areas where
38:55
Speaker 1: you've deticted a change, You've got another six will you
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Speaker 1: didn't detect a change? So, yeah, what kind of climate
39:06
Speaker 1: crisis is this? Where a couple of measures go up
39:09
Speaker 1: and six don't That is weird?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, let me let me just preface my remarks
39:18
Speaker 5: by saying that everything I've collected all this data. It's
39:20
Speaker 5: publicly available data from official sources. Everything on the dashboard
39:24
Speaker 5: is consistent with the findings of the last Assessment Report
39:27
Speaker 5: of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. This is mainstream
39:31
Speaker 5: consensus science, and what it says is that climate advocates
39:36
Speaker 5: when they hook their wagonto extreme weather events and associate
39:40
Speaker 5: everything that just happened to climate change, they're doing themselves
39:44
Speaker 5: a disservice because they are counter to what science actually says.
39:49
Speaker 5: I support emissions reductions, but not as a control knob
39:52
Speaker 5: to try to modulate extreme weather. We are altering the
39:55
Speaker 5: climate and it poses some risks for the long term future.
39:59
Speaker 5: Those risks so are gradual. They will emerge over decades
40:02
Speaker 5: and maybe the better part of a century, and all
40:05
Speaker 5: else equal, If we'd like to reduce those risks, we
40:08
Speaker 5: should reduce our emissions, and I think that's a good idea.
40:11
Speaker 5: But talking about every single weather event as the manifestation
40:14
Speaker 5: of climate change does a disk service to climate science.
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Speaker 1: But even then, if you did subscribe to the you know,
40:20
Speaker 1: turn the dial, turn the thermostat, let's decide a temperature
40:24
Speaker 1: and reach for that, where do we go Because if
40:27
Speaker 1: we get like in Australia fewer cyclones over the last
40:32
Speaker 1: fifty sixty years, fewer severe cyclones as well. What's the
40:37
Speaker 1: argument then, for we got to cut our emissions because
40:41
Speaker 1: there are more fires. What if it means less cyclones?
40:44
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the trade off here? What if it
40:47
Speaker 1: means bigger crops, which we've also seen we are getting
40:50
Speaker 1: bigger crops. Should we then be against the climate change
40:54
Speaker 1: so spend so many billions to try to stop it?
40:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are certainly, and it's fair to say there
41:02
Speaker 5: are opportunities that are created by increasing carbon dioxide, that
41:06
Speaker 5: more plants grow, it's better for agriculture there. It's a
41:09
Speaker 5: recent study that shows that European agriculture has benefited significantly
41:12
Speaker 5: from more carbon dioxide. But at the same time, the
41:15
Speaker 5: future is a fuzzy place, and anyone who tells you
41:17
Speaker 5: they can precisely estimate the costs and benefits of changes
41:21
Speaker 5: in climate, I think they're probably selling us a line
41:25
Speaker 5: of goods. The reality is that when we alter the
41:29
Speaker 5: energy balance of the Earth system, we're introducing uncertainties into
41:32
Speaker 5: our future. And if we can figure out ways to
41:36
Speaker 5: decarbonize our economy while at the same time expanding energy access,
41:40
Speaker 5: maintaining economic growth. Then I think it's a good thing
41:44
Speaker 5: to do. Too often the discussion boils down to just
41:47
Speaker 5: climate and this control knob theory that we reduce our
41:51
Speaker 5: emissions and the weather gets better, and that's just an
41:53
Speaker 5: oversimplification that doesn't make any sense.
41:55
Speaker 1: Rogie peelthe thank you so much for your time.
41:59
Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: After the break. Fotus in Britain are right now about
42:05
Speaker 1: to decide the fate of British reform leader Nigel Farage. Seriously,
42:15
Speaker 1: is Andy Burnham really going to save Britain's labor government?
42:19
Speaker 1: I mean, just two weeks after Burnham became the latest
42:22
Speaker 1: prime minister, It's only a month ago. He went on
42:24
Speaker 1: holidays overseas and he came back last Monday, and one
42:29
Speaker 1: of the first things he did then was to put
42:31
Speaker 1: his foot in it and big time. See Britain's getting
42:34
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. Boats of illegal immigrants coming over and
42:37
Speaker 1: they're not being sent home. And well here's an example,
42:40
Speaker 1: more than twelve hundred legals are being dumped at a
42:44
Speaker 1: former military site in the tiny town of Biddington, population
42:48
Speaker 1: just three hundred and fourteen. But Burnam's response is to suggest, well,
42:53
Speaker 1: It's a natural national duty, isn't it.
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Speaker 13: I do have to say we cannot have a situation
43:00
Speaker 13: where it's only the poorest communities in the country that
43:04
Speaker 13: receive all of the dispersal of refugees and asylum see,
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Speaker 13: because I do believe all parts of the country need
43:11
Speaker 13: to work to play, to play their part.
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Speaker 1: Joining me is a Thursday regular star GB News host
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Speaker 1: Patrick Christie's Patrick always wonderful to talk to you. So
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Speaker 1: you've got your new prime ministers saying it's the duty
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Speaker 1: of a tiny town to take in four times for
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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants, and there are villagers and it's not his
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Speaker 1: study to stop the illegal immigrants pouring in in the
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Speaker 1: first place.
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Speaker 5: Exactly.
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Speaker 8: He wants to make it sound like we should all
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Speaker 8: pull together, like it's some kind of national effort to
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Speaker 8: support wartime evacuees, like the famous film good Night Mister Tom.
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Speaker 8: But the reality is instead of a sweet little Cockney boy,
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Speaker 8: it is fighting age males from some of the world's
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Speaker 8: most troubled countries who are, unfortunately, as statistics do bear out,
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Speaker 8: disproportionately likely to commit crime. Any Burnha has been avoiding
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Speaker 8: GB News since he became Prime Minister. We asked two
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Speaker 8: questions to him and we got that line and now
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Speaker 8: unsurprisingly he's gone back to avoiding us again.
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Speaker 1: He actually was.
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Speaker 8: Responding there from our political editor who put to him
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Speaker 8: that children in Piddington have been writing letters to it.
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Speaker 8: One of them, for example, is a seven year old
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Speaker 8: boy who wants to be able to go to his
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Speaker 8: sister's grave unaccompanied, something he will not be able to
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Speaker 8: do if you bus in twelve hundred illegal young men
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Speaker 8: from troubled parts of the world. Burnham essentially laughed at that,
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Speaker 8: ignored it, refused to meet with a seven year old boy,
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Speaker 8: and then said that middle class areas need to do
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Speaker 8: their bit. Well, there are a few areas that are
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Speaker 8: very middle class on wealthy, like Cambridge. It's also a
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Speaker 8: city of sanctuary. It's also a labor constituency. No evidence
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Speaker 8: of any refugees in Cambridge, which is quite interesting, isn't it.
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Speaker 8: And another labor MP Andrew just quickly has previously said
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Speaker 8: we need to take more than twenty thousand Syrians. We
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Speaker 8: need to say that isn't enough. What does it matter
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Speaker 8: if we have to wait an extra week for a
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Speaker 8: doctor's appointment. That's a direct quote. Now she is opposing
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Speaker 8: twelve and fifty illegals in her neighboring constituency, not even
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Speaker 8: in her own constituency. She doesn't even want them next door.
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Speaker 8: I mean, this says there's too many men, too few resources. Look,
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Speaker 8: if there's one good thing about all of this, it
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Speaker 8: is exposing a lot of people on the left.
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Speaker 1: This is just an extraordinary Petrick and Burnham spending half
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Speaker 1: of his first month as prime minister on holidays. What's
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Speaker 1: the reaction been to that?
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Speaker 8: Pretty bad really, although you know, in some ways it
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Speaker 8: was quite nice to have him out of the country,
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Speaker 8: but it's not been a good reaction. He's now on
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Speaker 8: a kind of listening tour around the UK. But again
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Speaker 8: this is backfired really because people are saying, well, who
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Speaker 8: are you listening to. He's not listening to anyone who's
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Speaker 8: saying you need to cut backs, or you need to
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Speaker 8: cut the welfare state, or you really need to cut immigration.
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Speaker 8: Apart from the people who occasionally shout it at him
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Speaker 8: in the street, I mean, the only people he seems
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Speaker 8: to be employing at the moment are TikTok and social
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Speaker 8: media influencers. He's advertising for salaries of in the one
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Speaker 8: hundred thousands for social media and TikTok influencers, and this
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Speaker 8: just shows you where his priorities really are. So he's
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Speaker 8: the more people see of him, the less they.
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Speaker 5: Are going to like him.
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Speaker 8: And this is going to be a very interesting development
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Speaker 8: going forward.
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Speaker 1: I think, well, there's a TikTok star social media influencer
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Speaker 1: that our preme minse that would happily recommend to yours
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Speaker 1: if it gets around the country and saves him from
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Speaker 1: embarrassment like you got this mouth. But anyway, today is
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Speaker 1: the day of the Biolican in Clacton, which is caused
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Speaker 1: by reform leader Nage of Faraj quicking and then standing
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Speaker 1: again try and shape Parliament Shane Parliament into calling off
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Speaker 1: an investigationism shady support donations has been ginning from extremely
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Speaker 1: rich donors. It doesn't worked and now it's main opponent
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Speaker 1: is account bin face, so comedian dress like a rubbish
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Speaker 1: bin from out of space. How is all this working
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Speaker 1: out for Nigel? There is no risk of him losing
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Speaker 1: his seat today.
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Speaker 8: Is in no no, He's got seventy two percent chance
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Speaker 8: of winning. And people were laughing at farajaying he's going
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Speaker 8: to spend all summer arguing with a bin However, he
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Speaker 8: has actually announced several policies like putting the Navy in
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Speaker 8: the Channel and sending foreign criminals to El Salvador, which
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Speaker 8: have gone down very very well. And actually something quite
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Speaker 8: interesting has happened, which is that the establishment parties have
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Speaker 8: devoted a lot of resources to campaigning for a Bin
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Speaker 8: four Bin Face and legacy media, establishment media figures etc.
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Speaker 8: Have spent the summer interviewing the Bin and trying to
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Speaker 8: make him look very very serious, which has backfire spectacularly.
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Speaker 8: And you know, it's emerged. We're finding out more about
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Speaker 8: count bin Face, and it turns out he used to
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Speaker 8: work for the BBC and he also has a newborn
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Speaker 8: baby home. And when you look at it like that,
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Speaker 8: the bloke that potentially leaves his newborn babies dress up
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Speaker 8: as a Ben to go on campaign in a meaningless
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Speaker 8: BI election, actually they start to look a little bit
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Speaker 8: like the sat out, don't they, unless so potentially Nigel.
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Speaker 1: Farrad exactly, I have to say, in terms of people
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Speaker 1: trying to interview this guy, Bin Faith, seriously, why aren't
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Speaker 1: your policies better? People? I recommend people listen to the
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Speaker 1: rest of the politics podcasts where that's Pratt former Labor
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Speaker 1: spinater Alisa Campbell, who's arguing, why are you putting out
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Speaker 1: serious policies? You could win this. I mean, the guy
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Speaker 1: is such a joke and Binface runs rings him around
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Speaker 1: him and co host Rory Stewart. I highly recommend that
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Speaker 1: for a good joke to listen to Campbell being shown
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Speaker 1: up by a rubbish spin Patrick Christy, thank you so much,
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Speaker 1: indeed for your time. Really appreciate it. That's it from me.
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Speaker 1: Up next, Sherry maxon good note,