Latest / Brian Thomas / The "Smither-vent" - Episode 139 - Don't be a victim
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Drives blocked off between Collins and Kemper due to a
- 0:03Speaker 1: building collapse. Chuck Ingram fifty five krc DE talk station
- 0:10Speaker 1: seven Here fifty five KRCD talk station. It is Monday meeting.
- 0:14Speaker 1: It's time for Christopher Smith and former vice mayor of
- 0:16Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati and friend of the show and
- 0:18Speaker 1: the listeners. It's time for the smith Man. Christopher Smithman,
- 0:21Speaker 1: welcome back. I hope you had a wonderful weekend, my friend.
- 0:24Speaker 2: I did. Brother, I hope you did too.
- 0:26Speaker 1: And congratulations. I saw Camille's name. We for some reason
- 0:30Speaker 1: get the Catholic telegraph delivered to our house, and there
- 0:33Speaker 1: she was. The whole Seaton graduating class was there. My
- 0:36Speaker 1: wife pulled it out and she goes, look, Camille's right
- 0:38Speaker 1: here in the list of graduates. You have to be
- 0:41Speaker 1: so proud, Christopher.
- 0:43Speaker 2: I am. And congratulations to all the graduates across the
- 0:47Speaker 2: city and even across the region. But yes, my daughter
- 0:52Speaker 2: is graduating this week, and I'm really proud of her,
- 0:55Speaker 2: and I think see Seaton has been a great school
- 0:58Speaker 2: for her, and I appreciate all the staff and the
- 1:02Speaker 2: administration over there that did so much, and I mean
- 1:05Speaker 2: that for her and my family. So Seaton's a great school.
- 1:09Speaker 2: I hope to continue to stay involved with it. Let me,
- 1:12Speaker 2: let me, let me say this to you, brother. I
- 1:17Speaker 2: want to start by just making this statement. One is
- 1:20Speaker 2: I happen to be a black American, Okay, and right,
- 1:28Speaker 2: and and I've been listening to you know, all news
- 1:31Speaker 2: outlets over the weekend, and they are just pronouncing, like
- 1:36Speaker 2: very boldly, black Americans are victims. You are a victim.
- 1:41Speaker 2: You're a victim of your circumstance. You're a victim because
- 1:44Speaker 2: of this. You know, I'm sitting back going. If Black
- 1:48Speaker 2: Americans are listening to me right now, I just want
- 1:50Speaker 2: to tell them, if that's all the Democratic Party has
- 1:53Speaker 2: to offer, right, subjecting you to this status that you're
- 1:58Speaker 2: a victim, and that's somewhere somebody out there owes you something, right,
- 2:03Speaker 2: You'll be chasing the tale of that dog the rest
- 2:06Speaker 2: of your life. And it makes absolutely no sense other
- 2:10Speaker 2: than it keeps the Democrats in power. It has them
- 2:15Speaker 2: saying I'm subjugating a group of people into this place
- 2:19Speaker 2: that in their mind they believe they can't go any
- 2:22Speaker 2: further or any more whatever the word is, than their circumstance.
- 2:27Speaker 2: It's scary, dude. I was watching this all over the country,
- 2:31Speaker 2: these different rallies that were happening, you know, talking about man,
- 2:34Speaker 2: they want us to have an ID of if we
- 2:37Speaker 2: have an ID, it's going to impact me and my
- 2:39Speaker 2: ability to vote. They're trying to take away. Having identification
- 2:44Speaker 2: is not Jim Crow. And I don't care how many
- 2:47Speaker 2: times Senator Schumer says it, it doesn't make it any
- 2:51Speaker 2: more true. Right, you cannot even buy cold medicine without identification.
- 2:59Speaker 2: So I don't know who they're talking about when they're
- 3:02Speaker 2: talking about black Americans. I don't know any Black Americans
- 3:05Speaker 2: walking around without identification, without a state ID, without a
- 3:09Speaker 2: driver's license, without something that says this is who I am.
- 3:13Speaker 2: And so it's this notion that they're trying to really
- 3:16Speaker 2: push a different agenda, which I don't mind talking about,
- 3:19Speaker 2: but they're using Black Americans to do it, and they're
- 3:24Speaker 2: putting trying to put us in a mindset that somebody's
- 3:27Speaker 2: trying to take something from us because they want us
- 3:30Speaker 2: to have identification, which we already have. Just look at
- 3:33Speaker 2: your wallet. If you're a Black American and you're listening
- 3:36Speaker 2: to me and you don't believe what I'm saying you're
- 3:38Speaker 2: driving your car, just look in your wallet. You have
- 3:41Speaker 2: an ID. That doesn't stop you from voting. With the
- 3:45Speaker 2: Save Act, it says, if you're not an American and
- 3:48Speaker 2: you don't have an identification and you're trying to vote
- 3:51Speaker 2: in our election, we can tell you no. But that
- 3:54Speaker 2: has nothing to do with Black Americans that I'm gonna
- 3:56Speaker 2: tell you. I heard that all weekend Americans. You're a victim.
- 4:02Speaker 2: You're a victim of your circumstance. Somebody's trying to do
- 4:04Speaker 2: something to you, somebody's trying to take something away from you.
- 4:08Speaker 2: And I'm reaching out right now on this call to you,
- 4:11Speaker 2: to black Americans specifically, saying, as we move through the
- 4:15Speaker 2: election this year, at least reject that you're not a victim. No.
- 4:20Speaker 1: And you know the other point of this, and I've
- 4:22Speaker 1: been making it for years, Christopher, and you've joined me
- 4:24Speaker 1: in making the point. Isn't it insulting that the left,
- 4:29Speaker 1: the left is telling an entire group of people, based
- 4:32Speaker 1: upon the color of their skin, that they're incapable of
- 4:34Speaker 1: doing something that not only have they already done, but
- 4:37Speaker 1: that is so simple to achieve that they effectively label
- 4:40Speaker 1: the entire black community a bunch of morons, Christopher. Aren't
- 4:44Speaker 1: you personally insulted by that?
- 4:47Speaker 2: Correct? Yeah?
- 4:47Speaker 1: I know, I know, man, I don't know why that
- 4:49Speaker 1: that message the point I just made that you have
- 4:51Speaker 1: made before, it doesn't resonate more. It doesn't discuss more.
- 4:54Speaker 1: When these idiots come on and keep talking about how
- 4:56Speaker 1: dumb the American black people are, it's this is nothing new.
- 5:00Speaker 2: He can't do. This was all weekend. There were rallies
- 5:03Speaker 2: around this stuff. The Supreme Court's decision, which I'll talk
- 5:07Speaker 2: about in the next break, but this notion that you
- 5:10Speaker 2: have to have a specific district in order to elect
- 5:13Speaker 2: a specific race, and the Supreme Court has struck it down.
- 5:17Speaker 2: So now you want to rally around that and say
- 5:20Speaker 2: somebody's taking something away from me. Look, I just saw
- 5:23Speaker 2: Mika Owens come out of a primary in a county,
- 5:28Speaker 2: Hamilton County. One million people can participate. That's about what
- 5:32Speaker 2: we have as far as our population in our county.
- 5:35Speaker 2: This is a black American, she running against another Black American.
- 5:39Speaker 2: She just came out of that primary, and now she's
- 5:42Speaker 2: gonna run county wide. She's not in the district. Mika
- 5:46Speaker 2: Owens is running county wide for Hamilton County prosecutor. And
- 5:51Speaker 2: if she wins, bottom line is, why are we talking
- 5:54Speaker 2: about a district that has to be black When Mika Owens,
- 5:58Speaker 2: council member, Mika Owens respectfully and her title, who's now
- 6:01Speaker 2: running for county commissioner for the entire county. And if
- 6:06Speaker 2: he loses, she doesn't lose because she was a black American.
- 6:10Speaker 2: If she loses, it's because she didn't have the right
- 6:12Speaker 2: message for Hamilton County voters. Maybe right. And so this
- 6:16Speaker 2: notion that you have to have this land mask that
- 6:20Speaker 2: is carved out, and that's what the Supreme Court. Now,
- 6:22Speaker 2: by the way, two hundred years ago, one hundred years ago,
- 6:26Speaker 2: that was true. What the Supreme Court is saying now
- 6:29Speaker 2: it's not true. And I'm just telling you all weekend,
- 6:33Speaker 2: I couldn't listen to it. I kept turning. I go,
- 6:35Speaker 2: I'm gonna listen to it for another five minutes. And
- 6:38Speaker 2: I was listening, like and I go, let me take it.
- 6:40Speaker 2: I'm like, this person is on my TV telling me
- 6:43Speaker 2: that I am a victim and I can't go any
- 6:48Speaker 2: further than my victimhood. That's where I am. That's where
- 6:51Speaker 2: I'm subjugated. For the rest of my life politically, economically,
- 6:54Speaker 2: and socially. And I'm just telling everybody Black Americans who
- 7:00Speaker 2: are running around saying they're Democrats. If that's all your
- 7:03Speaker 2: party has to offer you, I suggest you look for
- 7:06Speaker 2: a new party.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Period. End of story, full stop, exclamation point, bold and underscore.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Will continue with Christopher Smith and we don't go away
- 7:14Speaker 1: after a talk station. It is seven thirty three fifty
- 7:21Speaker 1: five Ker City talk station. Right time was a Christopher
- 7:23Speaker 1: Smitheman in the middle of the well smither Van. Christopher Smitheman, continue,
- 7:27Speaker 1: my friend, I truly appreciate what you had to say
- 7:29Speaker 1: in the last segment.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Look, brother, my family they're from the South. When I
- 7:34Speaker 2: say they're from the South, we're talking. My father was
- 7:38Speaker 2: from Birmingham, Alabama. His father was a Baptist minister. He
- 7:42Speaker 2: was an only child, and my mother was from Montgomery, Alabama,
- 7:48Speaker 2: and they met at Tuskegee. My grandfather, or my mother's side,
- 7:51Speaker 2: was a farmer, and as I indicated, my father's was
- 7:55Speaker 2: a Baptist minister. Now, look, my family in the South
- 8:00Speaker 2: had to deal with Democrat Jim crow Right, the Dixiecrats
- 8:06Speaker 2: and Jim crow Right. So people understand it is I'm
- 8:12Speaker 2: telling Black Americans that they have to do something different
- 8:18Speaker 2: than white Americans. So when I go vote, there's a
- 8:21Speaker 2: poll tax because I'm a Black American, I have to
- 8:24Speaker 2: bring special identification because I'm a Black American. But the
- 8:28Speaker 2: white American in the South doesn't have to do that.
- 8:31Speaker 2: That is Jim Crow. What the Say Act does. It
- 8:35Speaker 2: says everybody's on the same playing field. Every American has
- 8:40Speaker 2: to come with the same identification. That is not Jim Crow.
- 8:45Speaker 2: And Senator Schumer keeps trying to connect the dots of
- 8:49Speaker 2: the Dixiecrats of his party in the South as they
- 8:53Speaker 2: engaged in Jim Crow in the discussion. We're trying to
- 8:57Speaker 2: have a fair and ba balanced elections in America that
- 9:02Speaker 2: require everybody who comes there, whether they're Black, White, Latita,
- 9:06Speaker 2: or Asian and American, has to show the identification. And
- 9:09Speaker 2: I just want to be clear with everybody that that
- 9:12Speaker 2: is not Jim Crow.
- 9:13Speaker 1: It isn't. Then you know he's just he's money in
- 9:15Speaker 1: the water because he can't say the quiet part out loud.
- 9:19Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with historic treatment of black
- 9:21Speaker 1: people under Jim Crow in the United States of America.
- 9:23Speaker 1: As appalling as that was, this is not about that.
- 9:26Speaker 1: This is about him wanting really easy voting laws on
- 9:29Speaker 1: the books to allow people to vote without identification so
- 9:31Speaker 1: the illegal immigrant population can cast votes. I mean, that's
- 9:36Speaker 1: what the is.
- 9:36Speaker 2: This is he is. But let me finish that. Let
- 9:39Speaker 2: me finish that, brother, Let me finish that by using
- 9:42Speaker 2: black Americans to get to that agenda. Yes, by using
- 9:46Speaker 2: us emotionally to get to that agenda. Yes, he doesn't
- 9:50Speaker 2: really care about it.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Noe.
- 9:51Speaker 2: So finishing it is. Who is he gonna use? He
- 9:54Speaker 2: goes to what he calls his Democratic base and says,
- 9:57Speaker 2: somebody is doing something to you with this victim mentality,
- 10:01Speaker 2: and he's not explaining this is Jim Crow two point zero.
- 10:05Speaker 2: What are they talking about? And by the way, Senator Schumer,
- 10:09Speaker 2: your party was the party of Jim pro It wasn't
- 10:13Speaker 2: the Republicans. Lincoln right sign the executive of the Executive
- 10:18Speaker 2: Order for the Emancipation Proclamation as we moved into two
- 10:22Speaker 2: hundred and fifty years and celebrating it was the Republicans
- 10:25Speaker 2: who passed the Fourteenth Amendment abolishing slavery. The Dixiecrats were
- 10:30Speaker 2: against it, even at the Supreme Court. They talk about
- 10:33Speaker 2: the Supreme Court being packed they want to do that
- 10:36Speaker 2: at the Supreme Court level. It was the Supreme Court
- 10:39Speaker 2: with the dread Scott case that the dread Scott You're
- 10:42Speaker 2: gonna always be a slave. Those were Democrats who were
- 10:47Speaker 2: a part of the Supreme Court. The Republicans were the
- 10:50Speaker 2: party of freedom. Why did it make Democrats so angry
- 10:55Speaker 2: when I get on the radio and I just tell
- 10:58Speaker 2: the historical truth. They were the party of racist Kluekluk
- 11:02Speaker 2: Plan and they were the party of Jim Crow. And
- 11:05Speaker 2: it drives them nuts. They'll send me, they'll send me,
- 11:08Speaker 2: text me to just all smitheman, I just can't believe
- 11:11Speaker 2: you said that. Well, what did I say? Did I
- 11:12Speaker 2: lie about something? Am I communicating something that isn't true?
- 11:16Speaker 2: It's not I'm saying the Save Act is important to pass.
- 11:20Speaker 2: And I don't care what side of the apple you're on.
- 11:22Speaker 2: I don't understand why you don't want an election that's fair,
- 11:26Speaker 2: that says I gotta come with ID and telling Black
- 11:29Speaker 2: Americans we're the ones that we don't have ID. And
- 11:32Speaker 2: by the way, we don't even know how to get
- 11:34Speaker 2: an ID.
- 11:36Speaker 1: We'll bring Christopher back for one more. He's on a tear.
- 11:38Speaker 1: He always is on a Monday morning. Here in the fifty
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- 11:51Speaker 1: ker City Talk Station Brian how Much with Christopher Smitheman
- 11:55Speaker 1: on quite an event today for the Smith Van Christopher,
- 11:58Speaker 1: you have the floor again, but keep it up, man,
- 12:00Speaker 1: you're doing a great job today as listen.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Listen, brother. Here's the why. Here's the why. This is
- 12:07Speaker 2: the scary part. The Democratic Party is tired of Black Americans, right,
- 12:15Speaker 2: they've used us up, and what they're really trying to
- 12:19Speaker 2: do is bring in the new minority group so that
- 12:23Speaker 2: they can pimp them out. So the strategy is, let's
- 12:28Speaker 2: get everybody gens up about the ID. They're very strategic.
- 12:32Speaker 2: This is the psychology of it. Tell Black Americans that
- 12:36Speaker 2: you're too stupid to get an ID and you're driving
- 12:39Speaker 2: a car and you got a driver's license. In some way,
- 12:42Speaker 2: we can't get a state ID to participate in an election.
- 12:45Speaker 2: But really the move is to have people who are
- 12:48Speaker 2: illegally in our country participate in the process so they
- 12:52Speaker 2: gain more power and squeeze out Black Americans. Ooh, they're
- 12:56Speaker 2: tired of us who they've used us up and now
- 13:00Speaker 2: it's time to move on to the next crew. See
- 13:04Speaker 2: when you're a pimp like the Democratic Party, and that's
- 13:07Speaker 2: the only thing you have, that's your mindset, right that
- 13:12Speaker 2: now they're looking to pimp out somebody else and they're
- 13:16Speaker 2: just fed up with us. And that's the reality of it.
- 13:20Speaker 2: And if Black Americans don't start standing up and saying,
- 13:23Speaker 2: I'm a I have independent thoughts. We don't as a
- 13:27Speaker 2: race have to tie ourselves to a party, a political
- 13:30Speaker 2: party that we can vote for Democrats and Republicans and
- 13:34Speaker 2: Independents and Libertarians. We can vote for whatever is in
- 13:38Speaker 2: the interests of our family, whatever that is, and we
- 13:42Speaker 2: don't have to say, oh, you know, if I'm not black,
- 13:45Speaker 2: what says Biden says, you're not If you don't vote
- 13:48Speaker 2: for me, you're not black? Are you crazy? My point
- 13:53Speaker 2: is they are tired of us, dude, and they're now
- 13:56Speaker 2: moving on to the next minority group is their goal,
- 14:02Speaker 2: and they don't mind whether they use Black Americans to
- 14:05Speaker 2: get to that objective or not. And any Black American
- 14:09Speaker 2: who's listening to me, think about Lyndon Johnson President, Lyndon
- 14:13Speaker 2: Johnson President Lyndon Johnson, right of a hardcore Democrat. Just
- 14:21Speaker 2: spend your time getting your history books and read about
- 14:24Speaker 2: Lyndon Johnson, and his whole goal was to say what
- 14:28Speaker 2: I'm gonna get. He didn't say black Americans, he didn't
- 14:30Speaker 2: say the negro, he didn't say the color, he didn't
- 14:34Speaker 2: say the African American. I can't say what he did,
- 14:36Speaker 2: but he made it very clear that he was going
- 14:39Speaker 2: to bring in these social programs to make sure that
- 14:43Speaker 2: Black Americans for the next two hundred years voted Democrats.
- 14:48Speaker 2: That was his objective. And I'm asking Black Americans who
- 14:52Speaker 2: might be listening to me, right, I'm asking white Americans
- 14:56Speaker 2: who do not know this history, go and just read
- 14:59Speaker 2: about President Lyndon Johnson, and you'll understand the game today
- 15:05Speaker 2: by President by Senator Schumer, who's pushing all this craziness,
- 15:10Speaker 2: acting as if Black Americans are too stupid to get
- 15:13Speaker 2: a dog on.
- 15:14Speaker 1: ID but vote for white Chucky Schumer. Right. That was
- 15:18Speaker 1: the other thing I know. I know because the people
- 15:21Speaker 1: who are who are trying to put this nonsense out
- 15:24Speaker 1: there that black people are too incapable of getting an ID,
- 15:26Speaker 1: thus insulting the entire black population. The headline I saw
- 15:29Speaker 1: the other day after the Supreme Court decision that was
- 15:32Speaker 1: kind of the springboard for your comments this morning. Blacks
- 15:34Speaker 1: have been denied representation by the Supreme Court. And I
- 15:38Speaker 1: thought to myself, what, No, Blacks, as you are pointing out,
- 15:42Speaker 1: are free to vote for whoever they want. And since
- 15:44Speaker 1: when does a black person have to run for office
- 15:46Speaker 1: in order to represent the black people? Chucky Schumer might
- 15:49Speaker 1: make an argument that voting for a white guy might
- 15:51Speaker 1: provide black people with better representation. That may be voting
- 15:53Speaker 1: for a conservative black candidate because they exist out there.
- 15:57Speaker 2: Christopher correct as a matter of fact that we're conservative.
- 16:01Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's just like we're watching what just happened
- 16:04Speaker 2: in California this weekend. And this is not tangential, right,
- 16:08Speaker 2: but this notion that. And I'm a person who has
- 16:11Speaker 2: a black gay son who I absolutely love in a
- 16:16Speaker 2: doore period right now. So I'm not anti anything. I'm
- 16:21Speaker 2: not anti the LGBTQ plus community, but I don't think
- 16:26Speaker 2: dudes should compete against girls, period. And if you go
- 16:29Speaker 2: out and you poll Black Americans and you ask them,
- 16:33Speaker 2: do you think that men should swim against your daughters? Right?
- 16:38Speaker 2: I'm telling you super majority. I'm not going to say
- 16:40Speaker 2: it's ninety percent, but it's in the eighties. It's high
- 16:44Speaker 2: where Black Americans would say, no, I don't think a
- 16:46Speaker 2: dude should swim against my daughter, or I don't think
- 16:49Speaker 2: a dude should compete against any girl in any sport.
- 16:53Speaker 2: And it doesn't make them anti anything. It's common sense.
- 16:57Speaker 2: But the Democratic Party keeps pushing this agenda, and Black Americans,
- 17:02Speaker 2: when you're voting for that Democratic ticket, you're also pushing
- 17:05Speaker 2: that agenda. So line up with a party that lines
- 17:09Speaker 2: up with your values. You can support the lgd LGBTQ
- 17:14Speaker 2: plus community and at the same time say I don't
- 17:18Speaker 2: want a man or a boy competing against our women
- 17:21Speaker 2: and our girls are going into their bathroom, that women
- 17:25Speaker 2: deserve a safe space. Now, Brian, I'm in a pivot here,
- 17:27Speaker 2: and I know I'm long winded, but look, sorry, this
- 17:29Speaker 2: young lady who had her butt slapped in downtown Cincinnati, right,
- 17:33Speaker 2: she's a comedian and it's all over the internet and
- 17:36Speaker 2: is going national. Right, and they've arrested this young man
- 17:39Speaker 2: who did it. Doesn't matter what his race is or
- 17:42Speaker 2: how old he is. Here's the real point. Cincinnati crime
- 17:46Speaker 2: is out of control, and this kind of behavior, right,
- 17:50Speaker 2: is permeating to our fifty two neighborhoods. You and I
- 17:53Speaker 2: talk about the murders, but what's also happening are these
- 17:57Speaker 2: crimes where women are being violated. To me, I can't
- 18:00Speaker 2: even imagine walking down the street with my wife and
- 18:04Speaker 2: somebody slaps her butt. Dude. That is violent. That is violent.
- 18:09Speaker 2: And let me tell you there's a man out there
- 18:11Speaker 2: who will kill you for doing that to his wife. Right,
- 18:15Speaker 2: And so I'm letting this Hamilton County judges understand. You
- 18:18Speaker 2: better hold this person accountable, because if you get these
- 18:21Speaker 2: young people running around slapping the buttoxes of women, you're
- 18:25Speaker 2: gonna run into somebody who's gonna say this is a
- 18:29Speaker 2: hard red line and I'm not gonna let you do
- 18:32Speaker 2: this to my spouse. And so my point is that
- 18:35Speaker 2: the crime in Cincinnati is out of control. We continue
- 18:38Speaker 2: to have a mayor and a council who say it's
- 18:41Speaker 2: our perception. It's not our perception. Young people are driving
- 18:45Speaker 2: their cars or getting their windows knocked out, and things
- 18:48Speaker 2: are being taken from their cars. People are being assaulted.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Whether I'm not talking about their butts being slapped, that's horrific.
- 18:54Speaker 2: I'm saying, beat up, that's horrific. They're being jumped. We've
- 18:58Speaker 2: got these teens takeover that are happening. It happened in
- 19:01Speaker 2: Price Hille at Price Hill Chili. People are jumping on
- 19:04Speaker 2: people's cars and running around the street crazy. And as
- 19:07Speaker 2: the weather warms up into the eighties, we're gonna have
- 19:10Speaker 2: more of these team takeovers. Guess what, this mayor this council,
- 19:14Speaker 2: they have nothing for us, no solutions on how they're
- 19:18Speaker 2: gonna deal with it. And one day they're gonna run
- 19:20Speaker 2: into somebody who's gonna say I'm not gonna take it.
- 19:23Speaker 2: You're not just gonna surround me, start kicking me, hitting
- 19:26Speaker 2: me over my head with a chair, and me not
- 19:28Speaker 2: defend myself. Right. So, I'm telling the city there's gonna
- 19:32Speaker 2: be twelve in the box real soon because you're gonna
- 19:35Speaker 2: run into somebody to say I'm not taking well.
- 19:38Speaker 1: I think you've predicted the future quite accurately. Christopher Smithman,
- 19:41Speaker 1: and hopefully our elected officials will turn the page and
- 19:44Speaker 1: move on to a better effort at law enforcement for
- 19:46Speaker 1: the protection and the greater good of everyone in the
- 19:49Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati.