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Josh Pate Talks SEC Football, Caitlin Clark’s WNBA Impact · Off The Bench

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Speaker 2: All right, Welcome back in nour number three of OTB
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Speaker 2: here on one O four five ESPN Baton Rouge. I
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Speaker 2: am very excited to catch up with our next guest.
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Speaker 2: It is Josh Pate, who is the host of You Guessed,
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Speaker 2: The Josh Pate College Football Show. Also he is the
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Speaker 2: head coach, offense and defensive coordinator and athletic director for
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Speaker 2: the Pate State Frights.
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Speaker 3: Josh, what is going on? Sarah? Glad to have you
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Speaker 3: on the show.
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Speaker 4: I'm glad to be here. I don't know why more
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Speaker 4: people take that approach. Just fill every single role that way,
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Speaker 4: either at a total success or a total failure, and
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Speaker 4: not some gray area. I know.
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Speaker 2: We got Billy Napier out here with seventy three blue
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Speaker 2: polos in his team picture. He's got a coordinator of
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Speaker 2: game changing moments when Billy could just do it all himself.
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Speaker 4: It's look, it's something that I fully plan on sending
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Speaker 4: a handwritten letter to every athletic department suggesting we'll see
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Speaker 4: if they take it.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, So Josh here obviously, like we're oning
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Speaker 2: in Louisiana. So we've been following college baseball. Lshue makes
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Speaker 2: their run, they win a championship, but pretty soon after
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Speaker 2: it's like, okay, well we can see in the distance
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Speaker 2: it is football season. It is on the horizon media days.
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Speaker 2: We'll be here in a couple of weeks. Like, what
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Speaker 2: about for you, Like, are you ready to fully jump in?
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Speaker 2: Obviously you do college football year round, but once baseball
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Speaker 2: finishes up, it's that last sport of the calendar year
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Speaker 2: for the twenty four to twenty five cycle, and now
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Speaker 2: it truly does feel like football season.
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Speaker 3: Are you like cannonballing into the deep end?
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Speaker 4: I kind of am, but I was never I never
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Speaker 4: viewed the calendar that way. College baseball for me, I mean,
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Speaker 4: I know this is really really dirty to say, down
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Speaker 4: in your neck woods. The college baseball for me, I've
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Speaker 4: always thought of it as the audio bed, if you will,
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Speaker 4: sort of the background noise as I'm already getting ready
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Speaker 4: for college football, Like I'm watching it, but even when
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Speaker 4: I was way, way younger, I always thought of it
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Speaker 4: as that's what's on the TV in my room as
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Speaker 4: I'm reading Phil Still's magazine or something like that. So
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Speaker 4: I'm already in, like I've been in for thirty minutes,
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Speaker 4: and now everyone's jumping in and they're complaining about how
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Speaker 4: cold the water is, and I'm like, just give it
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Speaker 4: a second. You'll like, you'll acclimate, you'll adjust. The worst
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Speaker 4: part to me is all this stuff we've been talking about,
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Speaker 4: whether it's the house settlement, whether it's the playoff realignment,
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Speaker 4: which format is the best? Some of us and I
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Speaker 4: assume you guys have done this too, We have talked
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Speaker 4: to we're blue in the face about it. And you
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Speaker 4: know as well as I do. You'll get up to
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Speaker 4: Atlanta in a few weeks for media days and they'll
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Speaker 4: be people almost speak as if they are breaking news
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Speaker 4: that those are on the agendatory Guys, did you know
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Speaker 4: they're going to expand the plus? What do we think
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Speaker 4: about it?
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Speaker 3: Oh, there's no question about that. That is absolutely how
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Speaker 3: it always plays out.
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Speaker 2: But as soon as you said Phil Steel magazine, like
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Speaker 2: I have to ask you, I got to get your
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Speaker 2: grade on this. So in the magazine the last three
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Speaker 2: years overall my serious XM show me ej Manuel, Bobby Carpenter.
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Speaker 2: He's allowed us to put our all meathead team together
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Speaker 2: because look, we're three meatheads, and it's like it's a
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Speaker 2: term of endearment. So we get to go like a
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Speaker 2: full twenty two, like eleven on offense, eleven on defense.
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Speaker 2: If you got to select an all meathead quarterback for
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Speaker 2: college football this year, who would you go with?
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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you who we picked after I hear
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Speaker 3: your answer.
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Speaker 4: Oh man, it's only it's tough. Let me think. Let
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Speaker 4: me think what level did you go? P five or
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Speaker 4: G five five?
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Speaker 2: I went, I went power for and I went with
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Speaker 2: somebody that's a true If he would have won one
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Speaker 2: of his games at the very end of the year,
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Speaker 2: we'd be talking about him way more.
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Speaker 4: Well, then you're not talking about Pavi, are you.
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Speaker 2: No, he was in the running, so diego. Pavia was
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Speaker 2: in the running. He actually, Okay, I'll go ahead and
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Speaker 2: tell you because they'll give you an idea. We went
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Speaker 2: with Haines King Georgia Tech. If he beats Georgia in
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Speaker 2: that eight overtime game, I think we're talking about him differently.
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Speaker 2: Now know, Diego Pavia beat him in a bowl game
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Speaker 2: as well, but we went with Haines King because he
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Speaker 2: is tougher than a two dollars stake.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what, you're describing their entire team.
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Speaker 4: I like what you're saying about King. I feel about
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Speaker 4: their entire team, both in terms of identity but recognizability too.
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Speaker 4: If they would have won that game. And the reason
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Speaker 4: you're saying it like that, I assume is clause, you know,
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Speaker 4: scenario A, Scenario B, they're pretty much the same player,
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Speaker 4: They're pretty much the same team, except scenario B they
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Speaker 4: end up, you know, winning the coin flip eight overtime whatever.
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Speaker 4: Everyone's all of a sudden talking about him as a
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Speaker 4: sleeper for the ACC Championship. They're talking about him as
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Speaker 4: a fringe Heisman contender, and I look at it and
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Speaker 4: I say, well, why aren't they those things? Anyway? I
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Speaker 4: legitimately think Georgia Tech can compete for the ACC this year.
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Speaker 4: I think if you put let's say, if you put
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Speaker 4: a Florida State helmet sticker on that team and you
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Speaker 4: just described everything about their returning production and this and that,
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Speaker 4: people would be a lot more free and easy to
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Speaker 4: pick them to compete and win. It's just they haven't
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Speaker 4: seen Georgia Tech do it. So understandably, there's a lot
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Speaker 4: of doubt out there in the college football public about that.
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Speaker 4: I don't have that doubt. Like I love what Brent
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Speaker 4: Key is as a coach. I love that program. That
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Speaker 4: team perfectly reflects his identity. Like watching them play, it's
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Speaker 4: like watching his thumbprints on a team. And they get
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Speaker 4: their biggest two games at home this year and elsewhere.
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Speaker 4: I think they may be favored in the other ten.
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Speaker 4: I just don't know that folks have like realized they
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Speaker 4: should take them seriously.
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Speaker 5: Yet you're talking about Haines King a just a hell
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Speaker 5: of a East Texan as well. Yeah he's right there
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Speaker 5: from Yeah he's from Longview, Texas and his dad being
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Speaker 5: a head coach, just like a tough, tough kid. Josh,
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Speaker 5: what's up, man, This is Matt flinn Man. Pleasure to
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Speaker 5: talk to you. My mind is always going to go
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Speaker 5: towards the quarterbacks, and we just talked about Haines King there.
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Speaker 5: But in the summer you're kind of looking for stories
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Speaker 5: to talk about. But something popped up pretty good, and
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Speaker 5: I'm especially interested in stories about quarterbacks and a positive
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Speaker 5: light and doing things the right way. But nor Seller,
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Speaker 5: South Carolina quarterback who just came on so strong last year,
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Speaker 5: he got a lot of hype going into this year.
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Speaker 5: The story comes out from his dad that he may
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Speaker 5: or may not have turned down eight million dollars NIL
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Speaker 5: deals to stay there because his dad said, well, we
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Speaker 5: made a commitment. We didn't go there to make a
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Speaker 5: bunch of money. Came there to be a student athlete,
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Speaker 5: win championships, do things the right way. When you saw
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Speaker 5: the story, what is that like? As a quarterback who
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Speaker 5: tried to do things the right way? It made me
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Speaker 5: feel awesome be a fan of this kid. So what
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Speaker 5: do you think about that story? Just like the nil
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Speaker 5: mess and when it comes to quarterbacks.
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Speaker 4: I'm glad it came out. They were talking about that
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Speaker 4: on campus the spring when I was up there, and
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Speaker 4: you know, it's his personal business, so it's his story
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Speaker 4: to tell. I'm not, you know when I'm privy to
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Speaker 4: that stuff, like I'm not some newsbreaker. But I said, well,
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Speaker 4: why why don't you tell that story? That story? It's
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Speaker 4: not braggadocious to tell that story. It really helps the
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Speaker 4: overall sport to tell that story. I'll tell you another
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Speaker 4: one that's done. That is rock Obeck up at Iowa State.
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Speaker 4: That kid could have made three times what he's making
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Speaker 4: in ames Iowa to leave the past two years, by
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Speaker 4: the way, and he stayed there. Now, you can say
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Speaker 4: what you just said, and I wholeheartedly agree with you.
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Speaker 4: Like that right there is a glaring example of what's
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Speaker 4: good and what should as me and Ma always say,
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Speaker 4: but also think about how think about how that perspective
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Speaker 4: ends up working. You've got what you know what I
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Speaker 4: always call penny wise pounds foolish approaches to college football,
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Speaker 4: and that is this guy's offering me more. I'm going
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Speaker 4: over there, and it just maybe to like a fan,
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Speaker 4: that makes sense. Oh, that guy's got to go get
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Speaker 4: his money while he can. No It oftentimes doesn't even
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Speaker 4: make sense in that vein because at the expense of
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Speaker 4: your development, your progression, and your future earnings potentials, you're
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Speaker 4: going and chasing sixty thousand extra dollars. And that's great
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Speaker 4: in the moment. Sixty k is not going to matter
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Speaker 4: to you fifteen sixteen years down the road. But yet,
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Speaker 4: having stayed the course, especially at a place that's good
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Speaker 4: for you, if you're in a toxic place. That's different
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Speaker 4: if you leave a place that's good for you and
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Speaker 4: you're the guy saying, hey, I wanted to stay there,
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Speaker 4: but I had to make a business decision. Maybe you
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Speaker 4: just made the wrong business decision. So I'm glad that
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Speaker 4: story went public.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great story. And Josh, don't break news
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Speaker 5: here if it's not public. Infert I was trying to
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Speaker 5: look for it as well. But he gives up eight
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Speaker 5: million to go. Do you know what he's like? His
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Speaker 5: takeome is right now with South Carolina.
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Speaker 4: Well, so it was gonna be an eight million over
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Speaker 4: two years, So it was gonna be I think about
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Speaker 4: a four million per year. He's not making that there,
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Speaker 4: but he's making more than half that I think there.
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Speaker 4: And South Carolina is a place that they're gonna like
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Speaker 4: most places that know what they're doing, they're gonna pay
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Speaker 4: on a scale that is in accordance with performance and
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Speaker 4: real value. And so he's gonna make good money there.
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Speaker 4: But also I want you to pretend you're a major
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Speaker 4: enterprise in the state of South Carolina and your CEO
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Speaker 4: is a lifelong game talk and he graduated from there,
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Speaker 4: and you listen to that story. If you weren't already
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Speaker 4: on board with underwriting a huge portion of your ad
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Speaker 4: spend this year for Lenora sellers in South Carolina Athletics,
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Speaker 4: now you are so in just telling the truth and
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Speaker 4: being loyal to a program. He probably made himself even
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Speaker 4: more money and got himself closer to that four million
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Speaker 4: per year figure by doing that than he ever needed
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Speaker 4: to leaving.
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Speaker 5: That's a great Yeah, it is you do things the
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Speaker 5: right way, and hopefully it trickles down to other people
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Speaker 5: around the country when they see it. And man, I think,
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Speaker 5: you know, of course we're everyone's lsu fanc here, but
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's the kind of story where you've got
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Speaker 5: a hard time cheering against that kid at least.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. I think that as you come
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Speaker 4: out of what we were calling the wild West era
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Speaker 4: of portal, you know, I think if people handle their
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Speaker 4: revenue sharing the right way, you're going to see a
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Speaker 4: lot of that roster turn slow down, which is a
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Speaker 4: good thing. But I think about now, let's say ten
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Speaker 4: fifteen years from now, we're kind of safely removed from
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Speaker 4: this era whatever we end up calling this era. And
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Speaker 4: I always think in terms of like a documentary in
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Speaker 4: the present moment. I think, at any given times, what
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Speaker 4: is the documentary fifteen years from now saying about this time?
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Speaker 4: And I cannot help but think about you know, when
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Speaker 4: thirty for thirty came out with the Broke documentary about
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Speaker 4: how many NFL guys squandered their earnings, and they had
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Speaker 4: those guys on camera, and those guys talked about how
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Speaker 4: foolish they were and how they wish they had to
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Speaker 4: do over. I think fifteen years from now, your transfer
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Speaker 4: portal or NIL documentary is going to be pretty heartbreaking
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Speaker 4: case by case scenario, of course, when you have guys
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Speaker 4: on camera who were taking advantage of and had a
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Speaker 4: lot of predatory individuals from the shadows get in their
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Speaker 4: ear and tell them all the wrong things, and they
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Speaker 4: ended up at three or four different schools, not because
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Speaker 4: they needed to, but just because they could and they
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Speaker 4: didn't know any better. And now here they are had
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Speaker 4: all the potential in the world and they've been done
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Speaker 4: playing football for thirteen years. By fifteen years from now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's any question about that.
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Speaker 2: Catching up with Josh Bate here on OTB talking from
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Speaker 2: college football, I'll stay with quarterback in the SEC because
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Speaker 2: Josh for me one of the storylines that I'm going
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Speaker 2: to find highly intriguing once we get to media days
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Speaker 2: in Atlanta. When you look at the quarterbacks in the
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Speaker 2: SEC LSU, South Carolina, Florida, ou Vandy, like they've got
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks that they feel really good about, guys that have
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Speaker 2: done it before, guys that have thrived in college football.
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Speaker 2: But then you look at some of the normal powers
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Speaker 2: a UGA, A Tennessee, A Texas, an Ole Miss and Alabama,
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Speaker 2: and they're going to have first time starters. Now it's
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Speaker 2: not to say that they're going to be bad football players, obviously,
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Speaker 2: Texas Ole Miss feel really good about their quarterbacks. But
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Speaker 2: how much does that change your outlook on the SEC
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Speaker 2: knowing that the teams that typically have won the SEC
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Speaker 2: in recent years made it cause football playoff or hitting
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Speaker 2: reset at quarterback and some of those other teams feel
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Speaker 2: really good about quarterback.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 4: The added part about that for context for people just
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Speaker 4: kind of driving around listening or sitting in the office listening,
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Speaker 4: is you would think, with that being the case, the
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Speaker 4: odds would look a little different this year, but they don't.
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Speaker 4: The odds still look pretty much the same, Like no
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Speaker 4: one has any clue what they're going to get from
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Speaker 4: gun or Stockton in Georgia. But yet they're right up
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Speaker 4: there along with Texas as the face to win the conference.
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Speaker 4: Alabama's right up there. No one knows what to expect
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Speaker 4: from ty Simpson. And then conversely, you look at DJ Lagway,
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Speaker 4: the guy came on really strong at the end of
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Speaker 4: the year. Flord is down the board a little bit,
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Speaker 4: partly due to schedule, but they're down the board a
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Speaker 4: little bit. So it's funny how there's such a benefit
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Speaker 4: of the doubt. There's so much equity built up from
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Speaker 4: some of these power programs you go beyond the SEC.
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Speaker 4: You can say the same about Ohio State right now.
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Speaker 4: You can say the same about Oregon right now. No
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Speaker 4: one knows what to expect from those qbs, but they're
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Speaker 4: up there anyway. They've earned that benefit of the doubt.
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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying they haven't. But what if, just
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Speaker 4: for a second here, what if you get B level
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Speaker 4: quarterback play and nothing better, nothing less from those new guys.
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Speaker 4: We did this little exercise on our show the other night.
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Speaker 4: Is I always expect B level quarterback play from a
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Speaker 4: new guy, and it's not because they're not capable of
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Speaker 4: AA plus level play. It's just that's the exception, that's
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Speaker 4: not the rule. So in order to not let myself
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Speaker 4: down and suffer heartbreaking December, what happens to the rest
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Speaker 4: of your team? If arch Manning plays at a B level?
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Speaker 4: What happens to the rest of my team? If the
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Speaker 4: two guys at Bama and Georgia respectively play at a
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Speaker 4: B level, Well, they're still capable if they win the
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Speaker 4: close games and you know, are plus in the turnover margins,
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Speaker 4: they're still capable of winning the league. But what it
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Speaker 4: does is it opens the door wide for like a
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Speaker 4: Texas A and M to make her run, or like
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Speaker 4: we just had a South Carolina to make her run,
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Speaker 4: and that normally wouldn't be the case. You'd normally be
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Speaker 4: looking at those caliber rosters saying they're probably another year
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Speaker 4: or two away, and then you could extrapolate that same
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Speaker 4: cinement nationally. What if none of these guys just elevate
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Speaker 4: themselves and it really is, you know, a sledgehammer fest
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Speaker 4: come playoff time, and you're looking at it saying this
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Speaker 4: is just an exception to the rule. In terms of
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Speaker 4: the landscape, it really does feel like we're in November
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Speaker 4: and there are twelve or fifteen teams that could win
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Speaker 4: this thing if they get hot in December.
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Speaker 5: It's a good question because the any championship team, any
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Speaker 5: good time team, your quarterback is going to have a
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Speaker 5: B game, right, You just can't have a B season
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Speaker 5: or you're not going to stand a chance. But every
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Speaker 5: quarter and so the team's got to overcome those B games.
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Speaker 5: That's why it's the greatest team sport. But Josh, I
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Speaker 5: want to talk the With the expanded playoffs, the opening
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Speaker 5: game has a little bit less impact than it used
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Speaker 5: to on the you know, your chances to make the playoffs,
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Speaker 5: make a run. We got two SEC teams going on
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Speaker 5: the road week on big matchups Texas at Ohio, State
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Speaker 5: of course, LSU at Clemson. What's your opinion of teams
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Speaker 5: like this kind of going out of the ordinary and
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Speaker 5: scheduling these big matchups on the opening game.
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Speaker 4: Well, I love it independent of anything else because I
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Speaker 4: just think that's what the sport should look like. And
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Speaker 4: I also love those those games you're mentioning. They're not
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Speaker 4: these you know, sanitized neutral site affairs. Either it's someone
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Speaker 4: going to someone else's building. That's what this sport is
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Speaker 4: supposed to be September through November with very few exceptions,
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Speaker 4: So I love that. Now, the obvious context of that
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Speaker 4: question is, yeah, but what if you lose while everyone
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Speaker 4: else is playing a pree puff and it ends up
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Speaker 4: being held against you. Well, that's why I think there's
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Speaker 4: been a lot of talk this past few months, especially
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Speaker 4: about all the playoffs stuff, But I don't want to
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Speaker 4: just overlook something else that's being reported, and that is
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Speaker 4: all the talk about recalibrating the selection process and recalibrating
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Speaker 4: the criteria and specifically recalibrating how they define strength to schedule.
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Speaker 4: And I think that is obviously been born out of
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Speaker 4: folks from the SEC and to an extent, the Big
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Speaker 4: Ten like yelling at the top of their lungs. Come
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Speaker 4: December and the selection process happens, and they're saying, wait,
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Speaker 4: why do you guys keep talking about records so much?
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Speaker 4: This is college football like in the NFL. Yeah, you
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Speaker 4: are what your record says you are. That's one of
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Speaker 4: the biggest lies you could tell about college football because
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Speaker 4: of the vast disparity in strength to schedule. So you
16:55
Speaker 4: guys either need to fix this or we're not scheduling
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Speaker 4: these games anymore because trust does we can go schedule
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Speaker 4: for Creampuff, take the four and oh and be happy
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Speaker 4: to go into conference play. We want to challenge ourselves.
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Speaker 4: We want to make the money off the gate that
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Speaker 4: we get when we challenge ourselves. We want to offer
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Speaker 4: spectacle for the broadcast network that we're in media rights
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Speaker 4: fials with. But we're only going to do it if
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Speaker 4: you don't even have to reward us for it, but
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Speaker 4: don't punish us for it. So I still think we're
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Speaker 4: in an era where that's going to change, and I
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Speaker 4: think you'll continue to get those games. But just forget
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Speaker 4: a US playoff for a second. Just just college football.
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Speaker 4: I love it. I mean, that's what I'm supposed to
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Speaker 4: be looking forward to this time of year. It's not
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Speaker 4: you playing alcorn State all due respect, it's you going
17:36
Speaker 4: on the road to Clemson. You it's Ohio State posting Texas.
17:41
Speaker 4: It's the man, what are we going to look like?
17:44
Speaker 4: I remember thinking this about Miami going to Florida last
17:47
Speaker 4: year and then think about that result. It's just college
17:50
Speaker 4: football is such a wild card sport, but especially Week
17:54
Speaker 4: one of college football, it's a total roll of the dice.
17:57
Speaker 4: But in like the most fun way possible.
18:00
Speaker 3: All right, there is Josh Pay good enough to join us.
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Speaker 2: Man, I just got really fired up for I know
18:05
Speaker 2: we talked about being on the horizon and it might
18:07
Speaker 2: already be here.
18:08
Speaker 5: I love your thoughts on the opening week two.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same way, like, let's go ahead, let's
18:11
Speaker 2: play a giant, Let's play a power forward team. I
18:13
Speaker 2: do not want to play directional school you either as
18:16
Speaker 2: a player, Josh, Man, I really appreciate your time. Look
18:18
Speaker 2: forward to our next conversation. Hopefully we can do this
18:21
Speaker 2: again in the near future.
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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: Guys.
18:24
Speaker 2: All right, there is Josh Paate, host of The Josh
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Speaker 3: You can catch that on YouTube. Does a fantastic job.
18:37
Speaker 3: I love his insight. Man. A lot of different things
18:39
Speaker 3: to transfer portal week one.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about some of that Week one stuff
18:42
Speaker 2: when we come back. And I know there's some people
18:45
Speaker 2: here in this building that want to play directional school
18:48
Speaker 2: you and I understand your point, but I'm just telling
18:51
Speaker 2: you the all seasons different, and look, LSU has been
18:55
Speaker 2: horrendous in season openers they have. It is looked clunky
18:59
Speaker 2: as hell. Well, but I do think they're doing something
19:02
Speaker 2: this year that is going to help out a little bit. Now,
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Speaker 2: once the ball's kicked off, it's all on you, but
19:10
Speaker 2: I'm saying, building up to the game, there's something they're
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Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown LSU football
20:44
Speaker 1: like only champions can they shut?
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Speaker 2: Did you find a new artist on your road trip,
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Speaker 2: somebody you had not really heard of before that found
21:19
Speaker 2: its way through the ears?
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Speaker 6: There's one, but I can't remember the name of it.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: It was a good song, for sure, but it was
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Speaker 8: like a long name. It was like three different words
21:30
Speaker 8: change your life, Like the artist's name was like a sentence.
21:34
Speaker 6: So okay, fair enough, But it was mostly just stuff
21:37
Speaker 6: that we all.
21:38
Speaker 5: What kind of what genre was it?
21:40
Speaker 6: It was like indie.
21:43
Speaker 3: Coffee house preaching.
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Speaker 8: It wasn't coffeehouse, you know, like the twenty tens, like indie. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: maybe alternative a little yeah, but.
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Speaker 5: It was seattle.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: Artist.
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Speaker 6: It was a male artist. Rivers will know.
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Speaker 3: Artic monkeys.
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Speaker 6: It's three words.
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Speaker 8: I'm trying to think of somebody to compare them to.
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Speaker 3: All Right, it's okay, we'll find out the answer. We'll
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Speaker 3: get there.
22:26
Speaker 2: I want to talk opening games here. I want to
22:28
Speaker 2: go around the room. I want to get everybody's there.
22:31
Speaker 2: I want to get everybody's opinion on this opening game
22:34
Speaker 2: against a big time Marque opponent. I love it as
22:39
Speaker 2: a player. That's what I wanted. I wanted somebody to
22:42
Speaker 2: look at and say, we got to be ready. We
22:44
Speaker 2: don't have time to wait because we've got this team.
22:49
Speaker 2: I think we we broke it down the other day.
22:51
Speaker 2: I think, uh, three of our four years, three my
22:54
Speaker 2: four you were here five. Three of my four years
22:56
Speaker 2: we played a Power four opponent in the opening game,
22:59
Speaker 2: and the one year we didn't, we played one in
23:01
Speaker 2: game number two I believe, because then we go ulled
23:06
Speaker 2: then Arizona I think in six maybe.
23:09
Speaker 3: So I loved it.
23:11
Speaker 2: It gave me an opportunity to like just see who
23:13
Speaker 2: I was going to play, know that they were, you know,
23:16
Speaker 2: doing some of the same things, they had, some of
23:18
Speaker 2: the same athletes that we had, and it was always
23:21
Speaker 2: something that I felt like helped me prepare for the
23:24
Speaker 2: first game. Now we all know that LSU is zero
23:27
Speaker 2: for five in their last five season openers. It has
23:30
Speaker 2: been Mississippi State when you were playing a defense that
23:34
Speaker 2: you never should against a Mike Leach offense.
23:37
Speaker 3: You should never play that defense.
23:39
Speaker 2: Right, They're going to hit another crosser as we're having
23:42
Speaker 2: this conversation, and then the next season you go to
23:46
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl and they run counter right up. You
23:50
Speaker 2: know what, right, Zach Charbonay just hit another counter. Florida
23:55
Speaker 2: State back to back years. Right, we all know the
23:57
Speaker 2: first game in New Orleans debacle. I mean, special teams,
24:02
Speaker 2: multiple kicks block, just a hot mess, Okay, and then
24:05
Speaker 2: you got the next year. Laforesa just beat you the
24:07
Speaker 2: next year, right, I mean you had some momentum, you
24:09
Speaker 2: had an opportunity. You don't put the ball in the
24:11
Speaker 2: end zone, they just beat you. And then last year
24:14
Speaker 2: right USC they made the plays you did not, Okay,
24:16
Speaker 2: So it's been a lot of different ways. It's been
24:18
Speaker 2: different coaches, it's been different players. This year, I think
24:24
Speaker 2: it's a point of emphasis over at the OPS building
24:29
Speaker 2: to make it a big deal and not hide from it,
24:32
Speaker 2: where I don't know that that's been the case in
24:33
Speaker 2: years past. I don't know how they handled it, but
24:35
Speaker 2: I've noticed like there's a lot of one to zero
24:39
Speaker 2: right all across the building.
24:41
Speaker 3: There's a lot of Clemson.
24:42
Speaker 2: There's a lot of like messages to what is in
24:46
Speaker 2: front of you and not trying to shy away from it.
24:49
Speaker 2: And that might sound so elementary, it might sound like,
24:51
Speaker 2: oh my god, why does that because it's just the
24:54
Speaker 2: constant reminder for players and coaches as you're getting ready,
24:59
Speaker 2: you don't have time time to wait around and figure
25:02
Speaker 2: it out.
25:02
Speaker 3: You got to get it figured out.
25:04
Speaker 5: Like an athlete psyche who the phone was going off,
25:08
Speaker 5: Sorry people, but then on silent an athlete psyche is.
25:13
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say they were delicate, but it's very
25:15
Speaker 5: malleable from what it coach. That's why a coach, especially
25:18
Speaker 5: the college Elmos is so important. How they get your
25:20
Speaker 5: mind right, how they prepare you. And I remember like
25:22
Speaker 5: when we used to open up and this is no
25:24
Speaker 5: shot at anybody, but like when we used to open
25:26
Speaker 5: up with Ull or whoever, it was those types of
25:29
Speaker 5: games in the off season, when you're hot and sweaty
25:32
Speaker 5: running one tens and you're leaning on the person next
25:35
Speaker 5: to you, you're fighting, you're sweating, you're bleeding with your
25:39
Speaker 5: brothers all off season. Having something to focus on is
25:44
Speaker 5: so important. Hey, I remember when we'd have those games
25:48
Speaker 5: that weren't big, it was you know, what do you
25:51
Speaker 5: think Florida's doing right now? You would talk about other
25:53
Speaker 5: teams that were looking.
25:55
Speaker 2: Past that, and this is not Look, we're not like
25:57
Speaker 2: sitting trying to draw bombs and have shape. We never
26:00
Speaker 2: were like what do you think ULL's doing right now?
26:03
Speaker 3: Just that didn't happen, but it did.
26:06
Speaker 2: What do you think Mississippi State's doing right now? What
26:09
Speaker 2: do you think Oregon State's doing right now? Like in
26:11
Speaker 2: some of our openers, Yep, you never heard it when
26:13
Speaker 2: it was you know, a group of five school.
26:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, And Josh brought up such a good point, and
26:16
Speaker 5: there's so many like butterfly effects to decisions made on
26:20
Speaker 5: expanding the playoffs, changing the rules of the playoffs, all
26:23
Speaker 5: that stuff, because I do not want to lose the
26:28
Speaker 5: opening day big game. And that is exactly what's gonna
26:32
Speaker 5: happen if they make it strictly record wins and losses.
26:35
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah. You can truly with a twelve person
26:37
Speaker 5: playoff ruin your season by scheduling these big games. Then
26:42
Speaker 5: you're gonna see people just shy away from them. I
26:45
Speaker 5: don't think that's gonna happen. I want to keep seeing
26:47
Speaker 5: them as an athlete, as a player, As a former player,
26:50
Speaker 5: I did not want to play the smaller schools. I
26:53
Speaker 5: hated those games. I hated them. People can be like, oh,
26:56
Speaker 5: it's so stat patter looks good, blah blah blah. Get
26:58
Speaker 5: the guaranteed win, so what. I hate it not playing
27:04
Speaker 5: the top competition just the same. It was hard to
27:07
Speaker 5: get up for it.
27:08
Speaker 2: Ye try to explain that from your perspective as a quarterback,
27:13
Speaker 2: because I try to say it like if we were
27:15
Speaker 2: playing Fresno State, Like in my mind, I was doing
27:17
Speaker 2: the same exact routine, I was watching the same amount
27:20
Speaker 2: of tape, I was doing all the same things, but
27:21
Speaker 2: in reality, I was not, because if we were playing
27:24
Speaker 2: Auburn or Florida or Alabama or whoever it was, let
27:27
Speaker 2: me watch this third down package, Hey, let me watch
27:29
Speaker 2: his blitz pick up.
27:30
Speaker 3: Hey, let me watch his short yardage goal line situation.
27:33
Speaker 2: And you just organically found yourself doing more, staying later,
27:36
Speaker 2: having more conversations, and you weren't trying to.
27:39
Speaker 3: It's just that's the way it happened.
27:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's something to be said for just like the
27:46
Speaker 5: you did the practice schedules the same. The coaches do
27:48
Speaker 5: a great job of trying to keep the schedule like
27:51
Speaker 5: the exact same, and you never you never try to
27:53
Speaker 5: think that Alabama game is bigger than Fresno State or
27:59
Speaker 5: Louisiana Tech. But it is, and you feel there's a
28:02
Speaker 5: there's an unsaid knowledge there that no one has.
28:05
Speaker 2: The time I got fired up, I got fired up
28:08
Speaker 2: good dogs to play louis Antech because look, my my
28:11
Speaker 2: wife's dad, uncle, my mom, her mom, she had a
28:15
Speaker 2: cousin on the team. My best friend in the world
28:18
Speaker 2: was on the team. So I was a little fired
28:19
Speaker 2: up for that one. But that was because of circumstance,
28:22
Speaker 2: not because of who it was.
28:23
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, Daniel and the chatter are saying like some
28:27
Speaker 5: sort of combination of BCS algorithm and committee like the
28:30
Speaker 5: BCS system. To me, probably with a twelve man team.
28:35
Speaker 3: Like a twelve man I say, the only problem with
28:36
Speaker 3: the VCS was it was.
28:38
Speaker 5: Just two teams, right even with even when they expanded
28:41
Speaker 5: a four, probably pretty darn good.
28:43
Speaker 2: That's why I don't understand why in college baseball we
28:45
Speaker 2: always talk about RPI and Jay Johnson comes on this
28:48
Speaker 2: show all the time.
28:49
Speaker 3: RPI our prawer, here's why we did this.
28:51
Speaker 2: Uh, when we have Matt McMahon or Kim Molky on,
28:53
Speaker 2: it's like we talk about the net and we talked
28:55
Speaker 2: about the kN palm. We talk about all these systems
28:57
Speaker 2: that we have, and we don't have that in football anymore.
29:01
Speaker 2: But if we add it back to the old BCS
29:03
Speaker 2: system and we had at least a ranking, and I'm
29:05
Speaker 2: not even saying that you don't have a committee, now,
29:07
Speaker 2: I would trust the old BCS system, But if you
29:10
Speaker 2: want to throw a human element back into it, at
29:12
Speaker 2: least if we had a BCS system or rank them
29:15
Speaker 2: whenever we go to sixteen one through sixteen, and then
29:18
Speaker 2: if that committee put nineteen in over sixteen.
29:21
Speaker 3: Then that would really you know, raise some hell.
29:24
Speaker 2: But you would have this metric that the coaches like
29:26
Speaker 2: they could use and they when it comes to scheduling,
29:30
Speaker 2: like there's a strength of schedule component that goes into
29:32
Speaker 2: the algorithm.
29:34
Speaker 3: Then you would have more teams scheduling like LSU does.
29:38
Speaker 5: Yeah, make it, make it black and white at least
29:41
Speaker 5: on how the power rankings are there. And then of
29:44
Speaker 5: course there's a little bit you know, there's going to
29:46
Speaker 5: always going to be a human element to everything, because
29:48
Speaker 5: I'm sure it would take in consideration to like coaches,
29:52
Speaker 5: bulls and a peoples and all that stuff, like those
29:54
Speaker 5: things would be those things would be in there. But
29:56
Speaker 5: I think just some sort of clear struck sure. But please,
30:01
Speaker 5: for the love of God, don't take don't make it
30:04
Speaker 5: completely one hundred percent about record, because as a college
30:08
Speaker 5: football fan, as a fan of good football and just
30:11
Speaker 5: being excited for the for the preseason and the lead
30:14
Speaker 5: up on everything, Man, don't don't they will take away
30:18
Speaker 5: those big games if you make it about that. If
30:20
Speaker 5: you make one loss ruin an entire year, you always say, yeah, well,
30:24
Speaker 5: twelve teams, like you still control your own destiny, which
30:27
Speaker 5: is great. There was.
30:28
Speaker 2: I mean, was it the year that Michigan won the
30:30
Speaker 2: Natty A couple of years ago, they didn't play a
30:32
Speaker 2: Power for team in the non con Yeah, I'm pretty
30:35
Speaker 2: sure right, they play.
30:35
Speaker 7: Yeah, because that was the that was the Jim Harball suspension.
30:39
Speaker 7: Not remember they basically let hit Michigan pick which games
30:42
Speaker 7: he was suspended, and it was like bowling Green and
30:45
Speaker 7: Acron and teams like that. Yeah, because they didn't have
30:48
Speaker 7: any Power five non conference and they won the Natty.
30:54
Speaker 7: That's why, in my opinion, strength of schedule doesn't matter
30:57
Speaker 7: in the current format that we have.
30:59
Speaker 3: It doesn't. No, it doesn't.
31:00
Speaker 7: You go ten and two, you're one of the top
31:02
Speaker 7: three teams in your conference, You're making the playoffs.
31:04
Speaker 5: That's it.
31:05
Speaker 8: Uh.
31:06
Speaker 5: Power for championship games, should you be penalized?
31:12
Speaker 3: We've had some.
31:12
Speaker 2: I mean Georgia two years ago, Alabama in the SEC
31:17
Speaker 2: championship game, they don't get in, then they beat the
31:20
Speaker 2: hell out of Florida State in the Orange Bold to
31:22
Speaker 2: prove a point.
31:23
Speaker 7: And then this year flip it SMU was not penalized.
31:27
Speaker 7: They lost that conference game to Clemson. They both get in,
31:30
Speaker 7: so we've seen it both ways.
31:32
Speaker 5: They wanted what they just wanted sun shmiw SCHMIW. Yeah.
31:38
Speaker 5: I don't think if you if you make the conference
31:40
Speaker 5: championship in a power in the top ones, top conferences,
31:45
Speaker 5: you should not be penalized for that. You shouldn't be
31:48
Speaker 5: kicked out of the playoffs.
31:50
Speaker 2: Uh, all right, when we come back, We've got Brett
31:53
Speaker 2: inside the bay U four chat and wants to know
31:55
Speaker 2: about your feelings during two thousand and seven whenever we
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Speaker 2: started to find out, Oh no, they're going to mess
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32:04
Speaker 2: I think I've told that story plenty times before. We'll
32:06
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Speaker 5: I also want to bring up, just to quick some
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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll have all that for you when we come
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33:47
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Speaker 2: You know, thirteen of those got one in nine before
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34:10
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Speaker 2: Not you man, you were blabbering about something. Yeah, I
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I really wanted to talk about like we doesn't
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Speaker 5: probably get the headlines down here on many of the shows,
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Speaker 5: or definitely this show, but we really need to start
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Speaker 5: it's gonna be like a nine hour show. It's uh,
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Speaker 5: there's nobody that's had a bigger impact or.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, oh good good, I'm good. I'm sorry. I apologize.
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Speaker 5: Are y'all laughing at the w n B A no, A.
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Speaker 3: Little bit of a bigger.
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Speaker 2: It's a little bit of both for me, because I mean, look,
35:59
Speaker 2: I mess up boards all time.
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Speaker 5: Sure well, it's kind of like a combination of like
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Speaker 5: big deal and bigger. So I just got like kind
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Speaker 5: of Yeah, I'm a little list exic. It's fine. Sorry, sorry,
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Speaker 5: I want you to think of an athletes have a
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Speaker 5: bigger impact on their game. So, before she got to
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Speaker 5: the WNBA, and we're talking about like the ESPN National
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Speaker 5: Game for the WNBA was averaging like three hundred and
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Speaker 5: ninety four thousand viewers. Her rookie year, they averaged one
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Speaker 5: point one to nine million on it, which is like
36:29
Speaker 5: a two hundred and two percent drop. Twenty two of
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Speaker 5: her games exceeded a million people in viewership. Of that
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Speaker 5: she was televised her debut is like two point one
36:40
Speaker 5: three million. In comparison, their games were one point one
36:45
Speaker 5: eight million average viewers. Every other team was three hundred
36:47
Speaker 5: and ninety four thousand viewers. And then again in twenty
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Speaker 5: twenty five, like they aired one of her games on ABC,
36:54
Speaker 5: two point two million was the average viewership of that game,
36:57
Speaker 5: It like spiked to like two point eight million. And
37:03
Speaker 5: then when she was hurt, the average for this season
37:05
Speaker 5: has been one point eight million viewership. Now it's like
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Speaker 5: a fifty something percent jump from last year, but when
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Speaker 5: she got hurt and she wasn't playing, it dropped over
37:16
Speaker 5: fifty percent to like eight hundred thousand viewers. So you
37:19
Speaker 5: go from one person playing getting amazing ratings, which they
37:22
Speaker 5: had never done. They averaged two years before over three
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Speaker 5: hundred thousand viewers. Now they're averaging one point eight and
37:28
Speaker 5: then when she gets hurt, it drops back down over
37:31
Speaker 5: fifty five percent. Now, tell me if there is an
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Speaker 5: athlete has that has ever had an impact on their
37:39
Speaker 5: particular sport, like Caitlin Clark has an appreciate and she's
37:42
Speaker 5: not even leading the league in a lot of things,
37:45
Speaker 5: Like you see the threes, she's not even top three
37:48
Speaker 5: and threes, like average threes made per game, like she's
37:51
Speaker 5: leading the league or tied for like assists or something.
37:53
Speaker 5: She's playing great, and she's like leading and like all
37:55
Speaker 5: Star picks and all that stuff. Not saying that, but
37:57
Speaker 5: like having that sort of impact and not even like
38:00
Speaker 5: and she's famous for three's not even leading the league
38:02
Speaker 5: in average threes per game.
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Speaker 3: I would.
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Speaker 2: Burden Magic the NBA was struggling a little bit. That's
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Speaker 2: a combo. It's not one singular person. It's the only
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Speaker 2: one I can kind of. When burd and Magic had
38:16
Speaker 2: their rivalry and they were going back and forth, Lakers Celtics,
38:19
Speaker 2: the NBA needed them badly.
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Speaker 3: They had to have them. And that's really I don't
38:25
Speaker 3: know if y'all have another one.
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Speaker 2: That's the only one, maybe Sosa Maguire in their home
38:30
Speaker 2: run race that they had, right they were going back
38:33
Speaker 2: and forth to try to beat Roger Merris's single season record.
38:36
Speaker 2: That kind of saved baseball after the baseball strike in
38:39
Speaker 2: the early nineties. But that was because of circumstance, right,
38:43
Speaker 2: it was because you had to strike. Baseball was a
38:45
Speaker 2: little boring at the time, and here come these two
38:47
Speaker 2: guys who may or may not have been on pds,
38:50
Speaker 2: who cares, are hitting the ball far and it was fun.
38:53
Speaker 2: But like to your point, all those have been tandem.
38:56
Speaker 2: Hasn't been singular.
38:59
Speaker 6: There's one little the only thing I can think of.
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Speaker 8: And maybe this is just me because I'm not like
39:04
Speaker 8: a big golf follower, but one that I like. I
39:08
Speaker 8: don't know what it was like before him, but Tiger
39:10
Speaker 8: Woods kind of put golf, and I don't know, it's a.
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Speaker 3: Good one, so Tiger would be Tiger still has it, Yeah,
39:19
Speaker 3: long time.
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Speaker 7: He's kind of doing it now golf like since standpoint,
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Speaker 7: Scotty's kind of but he's bringing a lot of eyeballs too,
39:28
Speaker 7: because you always want to see that one dominant guy
39:30
Speaker 7: like to her point, like I mean, after Tiger got old,
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Speaker 7: like Scott, he's kind of the next guy that's bringing
39:35
Speaker 7: everybody in.
39:36
Speaker 8: I just didn't really know anything about golf until Tiger
39:39
Speaker 8: Woods was a thing. Like I was kind of young
39:42
Speaker 8: whenever that whole scandal happened. But like I that's the
39:47
Speaker 8: only thing that I ever really knew.
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Speaker 2: About it was the only thing I knew was Hal
39:51
Speaker 2: Sutton and David Toms for from report, and I watched
39:53
Speaker 2: them when they played.
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Speaker 5: I mean, it was a middle aged white dude sport
39:57
Speaker 5: from whoever played it or watched it.
39:58
Speaker 3: Really.
39:59
Speaker 5: I remember I would have it on when I was
40:01
Speaker 5: grown up and it was so boring. But then when
40:03
Speaker 5: Tiger came on, I was like, all right, I can
40:05
Speaker 5: watch this for sure, and he made such like his
40:07
Speaker 5: impact probably great greater than the Caitlin impact. This is
40:12
Speaker 5: a very short term situation, but that is like when
40:16
Speaker 5: you have the top like fifty golfers playing right now
40:19
Speaker 5: that all like gush over tiger Woods, like Scotti Scheffler.
40:24
Speaker 5: You're seeing Warrabbit's got tiger Wood shoes on, Like that's
40:26
Speaker 5: like that's the impact he had.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I like for golf, now you kind of know
40:32
Speaker 8: more of the people, like I know Jordan's Spee, Scottie
40:36
Speaker 8: and Brooks, Kapika or I don't even know if it's Kapika.
40:39
Speaker 6: I don't even that's what I'm saying, like I've only
40:41
Speaker 6: ever seen it, but.
40:44
Speaker 8: Yeah, or maybe even like tennis when Pete Sampras and
40:48
Speaker 8: Agustine maybe I was Andre.
40:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you were one of the other uh MESSI
40:52
Speaker 5: had a big impact on the MLS, right, Yeah, I've
40:54
Speaker 5: been like yeah, but.
40:55
Speaker 2: To your point, like nobody to what you're talking about
40:58
Speaker 2: with Kaitlyn Clark, nobody when he comes with.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you all kind of like poke fun of me
41:04
Speaker 5: for like bringing it up, but like it's a real.
41:06
Speaker 3: Now, that's a real had nothing to do with it
41:10
Speaker 3: was the word you made it.
41:11
Speaker 5: Well. I mispronound sports all the time, I know, but.
41:13
Speaker 2: It's funny because then you kept saying it right, but
41:15
Speaker 2: it still sounded like it was wrong.
41:17
Speaker 3: Just what made it fun exactly?
41:20
Speaker 2: I will I've told this story with Taylor and Laundry
41:23
Speaker 2: in the room, but I'll tell it with you.
41:25
Speaker 3: So my father in law, who played in the NFL.
41:27
Speaker 2: His brother played a decade plus in the NFL, my
41:30
Speaker 2: brother in law who played college football. They've both been
41:32
Speaker 2: a tunne of LSU games, so they've seen crazy atmospheres.
41:35
Speaker 5: Right.
41:36
Speaker 2: They went to the Masters one year and they followed
41:39
Speaker 2: Tiger and they said, it's not even close. The best feeling,
41:44
Speaker 2: the most electricity they've ever felt in a sporting event.
41:47
Speaker 2: And again they've been everywhere they've seen everything. Was the
41:50
Speaker 2: crowd following Tiger Woods to Augusta. They said it was
41:53
Speaker 2: you couldn't even compare it to anything.
41:57
Speaker 5: Yes, oh my god, all Tiger fans, that was such
42:01
Speaker 5: a you for to day watching them do that. I
42:03
Speaker 5: can only imagine what it was like walking through that seat.
42:07
Speaker 2: I said, it was incredible. They said it didn't matter
42:09
Speaker 2: where they've been, what they had seen, nothing compared to that.
42:12
Speaker 2: So to your point, all right, the show is only
42:16
Speaker 2: going to get biggerer as we continue to deal. We'll
42:23
Speaker 2: wrap it up when we come back here, OTB, I mean,
42:27
Speaker 2: trust me, just give me enough time and I'll say
42:29
Speaker 2: a word that does not exist, all right, Something that
42:32
Speaker 2: does exists is doci words see exactly letters why you
42:37
Speaker 2: should go for dose And no matter what you're doing
42:41
Speaker 2: Tiger fans, if you're sitting there and you're tailgating for
42:44
Speaker 2: a baseball run, if you're watching the last out in Omaha,
42:47
Speaker 2: if you're getting ready, you know, to watch a game
42:49
Speaker 2: in Clemson, South Carolina. You're in the parking lot, tailgating,
42:52
Speaker 2: whatever it is. Do Sekis always brings the flavor, the
42:56
Speaker 2: vibes and the victory energy. So you should go for
42:59
Speaker 2: dose and joy a dose sequis, which is the gold
43:02
Speaker 2: standards a beer.
43:03
Speaker 5: All right, let's hump day today. We got a national
43:06
Speaker 5: championship celebration. We got a new intimidator company. Go to
43:10
Speaker 5: your local wherever you like to buy groceries, beer, whatever
43:13
Speaker 5: it is. Go get some do sacquis. Start icing it down. Now,
43:16
Speaker 5: have some cold fresh Mexican logger. Slice up some limes.
43:20
Speaker 5: Get ready to roll. Cheer on the tigers tonight. Celebrate
43:23
Speaker 5: them with doseaquies. Go for dose.
43:29
Speaker 1: Tigers, turn talkers. This is off the bench. I'm going
43:36
Speaker 1: back to five or five.
43:39
Speaker 3: If it's a seven hour flys or forty five minute drive.
43:46
Speaker 1: In my imgination, new ways and line on your side
43:53
Speaker 1: with your runs between your thighs.
43:58
Speaker 5: Come swere.
44:02
Speaker 3: Master stop be dropped little bit wacky, waited for that song.
44:08
Speaker 5: That's the song you wanted to wait for.
44:10
Speaker 3: You've never heard five of five by Monkeys.
44:13
Speaker 5: I mean, but like, there's a lot of great songs
44:15
Speaker 5: up there. Yeah, and this is one of This was
44:17
Speaker 5: not a bat drop. It's a bad song.
44:20
Speaker 3: This is I hate target Monkeys couldn't be me.
44:24
Speaker 5: I hate the way I pronounced words.
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Speaker 2: Dude, are you being Are you gonna getivity fine it?
44:29
Speaker 2: We will have a kangaroo court, my man, and we'll
44:31
Speaker 2: throw sensitivity fine right up on that board.
44:34
Speaker 5: See if I ever try to lead a segment again,
44:37
Speaker 5: I can't deal with this Matt song Like, this is
44:39
Speaker 5: what I get for carry in the show. That's right back, hurts.
44:45
Speaker 2: Kangaroo courts going up tomorrow. I'm getting your list every
44:51
Speaker 2: every time you heard something, it's gonna be a sensitivity fine.
44:56
Speaker 6: Five dollars, five dollars scenes reasonable.
44:59
Speaker 3: We'll put it in a.
44:59
Speaker 2: Pot at the end of the month, we'll put it
45:02
Speaker 2: all together and we'll go have a little OTB lunch
45:06
Speaker 2: on the kangaroo court.
45:08
Speaker 3: It feels like you're gonna be paying.
45:10
Speaker 5: For it even really know what you're talking about right now?
45:15
Speaker 3: You know, like a kangaroo court is in the NFL,
45:17
Speaker 3: Like I didn't.
45:18
Speaker 5: Have that a fine system. Yeah, kangaroo court.
45:21
Speaker 3: That's what we did.
45:22
Speaker 2: Like everybody came up in the room, came up with
45:24
Speaker 2: the fines. It was like a handclap was because they
45:26
Speaker 2: hopped up. There was a kangaro Never heard that before. No,
45:30
Speaker 2: I've heard what you like, you talked about it, but
45:32
Speaker 2: I just kind of went with it.
45:35
Speaker 6: Y'all. That video real quick, we have like fifteen seconds.
45:37
Speaker 6: That video of Joe Burrow throwing a baseball gave me
45:40
Speaker 6: the egg.
45:41
Speaker 3: Somebody was like, whoa also never adjust it was shocked.
45:48
Speaker 6: Gave me the eck.
45:49
Speaker 3: It was shocking.
45:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, I promise you will break down the fells trade tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: Join us tomorrow morning, OTB.
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46:03
Speaker 6: was it? They traded CJ. McCollum for a younger CJ.
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