Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 17 June 2026
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew dickots on
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- 0:09Speaker 1: moving News talks.
- 0:10Speaker 2: They'd be welcome morning to you and welcome to your Wednesday.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Thank you for choosing us coming up on the program today.
- 0:16Speaker 2: ACT has a new policy aiming to protect freedom of
- 0:18Speaker 2: speech in the workplace. So why is this necessary? We
- 0:22Speaker 2: appear to be getting on top of drink driving and
- 0:24Speaker 2: as young people leading the charge, and we might actually
- 0:27Speaker 2: be getting out ducks in a row when it comes
- 0:28Speaker 2: to long term infrastructure planning. We'll have all that and
- 0:31Speaker 2: corresponders from right around New Zealand. Kevin Gray out of
- 0:33Speaker 2: the UK, and news as it breaks, and you can
- 0:35Speaker 2: have your say on the text. Ninety two ninety two
- 0:37Speaker 2: small charge applies. It is seven enough for five the agenda, Well,
- 0:43Speaker 2: it's Wednesday, the seventeenth of June to the Middle East,
- 0:46Speaker 2: and the present is insisting the Iran deal will open
- 0:50Speaker 2: the Straight of Hormuz toll free. Trump administration officials say
- 0:53Speaker 2: the deal has already been signed electronically by both sides,
- 0:58Speaker 2: and there's going to be a formal ceremony taking place
- 1:00Speaker 2: in Geneva in Switzerland, next week. They will not have
- 1:03Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon.
- 1:04Speaker 3: And that's the reason I got in and that's the
- 1:08Speaker 3: reason I agreed to sign. They're not going to acquire
- 1:12Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon. If they do, all hell will rain
- 1:16Speaker 3: down on that.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the president's been speaking at the G seven summit
- 1:20Speaker 2: in France, where he gave a strong message to Israel,
- 1:23Speaker 2: and it's prime edisent. I'll tell you what.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Israel's fighting hasbla too long and too many people are
- 1:29Speaker 3: being killed. And you don't have to knock down an
- 1:32Speaker 3: apartment house every time you're looking for somebody, because there
- 1:35Speaker 3: are a lot of people in those apartment houses and
- 1:37Speaker 3: they're not all Hasbola. That I can tell you now.
- 1:39Speaker 3: I'm not happy with the way Israel has handled themselves
- 1:44Speaker 3: with Lebanon and with Hesbola.
- 1:46Speaker 2: To the United Kingdom and the former defense ministers said
- 1:49Speaker 2: bye bye to Parliament. He resigned, of course, last week,
- 1:53Speaker 2: and in his farewell speech he got stuck into the
- 1:55Speaker 2: government's defense spending.
- 1:57Speaker 4: I see the current defense investment plans for well short
- 2:01Speaker 4: of what is required, arise of zero point eight percent
- 2:05Speaker 4: from next year to twenty thirty, no date for reaching
- 2:09Speaker 4: three percent, no path to three point five percent. By
- 2:13Speaker 4: twenty thirty, well over half of NATO members will be
- 2:16Speaker 4: spending three percent or more. And when allies are looking
- 2:20Speaker 4: for British leadership, we must not fall behind.
- 2:24Speaker 2: And finally, keeping with the UK, the Palace has announced
- 2:26Speaker 2: where Prince George will go to college.
- 2:29Speaker 5: Henston Palace can confirm that Prince George will attend Eaton
- 2:33Speaker 5: College in September. That news just coming in from the
- 2:36Speaker 5: Royal household.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Isn't that where William went? Eton College is the fifteenth
- 2:40Speaker 2: century private broading school in Berkshire where twenty British Prime
- 2:44Speaker 2: ministers have studied. By the way, if you want to
- 2:46Speaker 2: be like the Palace and send your child there, it's
- 2:49Speaker 2: going to set you back one hundred and forty four
- 2:52Speaker 2: thousand New Zealand dollars a year.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Withrews and
- 3:01Speaker 1: Spark for business technology that keeps business moving, news talks.
- 3:05Speaker 2: It'd be well for a hot minute. Yesterday, New Zealand
- 3:07Speaker 2: was the center of world attention in the aftermath of
- 3:10Speaker 2: that incredible first round game between the All Whites and Iran.
- 3:13Speaker 2: The match was the top story in The Guardian, the
- 3:16Speaker 2: number one story in The Guardian, and while the politics
- 3:19Speaker 2: of Iran's participation made it newsworthy. The New York Times
- 3:23Speaker 2: was reporting that it was also a fantastic football match,
- 3:25Speaker 2: which it was. Twice. We scored twice, we had the lead,
- 3:30Speaker 2: twice Iran came back. I got reports from the courts
- 3:33Speaker 2: in Rotorua. They said that proceedings were interrupted. Why were
- 3:37Speaker 2: people were going absolutely not soo at the pig and whistle,
- 3:39Speaker 2: which is right next door, and everyone could hear it.
- 3:42Speaker 2: This is happening up and down the country. Both our
- 3:44Speaker 2: goals by eli Just, who's now become a world star,
- 3:47Speaker 2: and they all featured excellent interplay and in fact, as
- 3:50Speaker 2: night fell, eli Just was equal first in the Golden
- 3:53Speaker 2: Boot competition. A New Zealander. Personally, I watched it at
- 3:58Speaker 2: home by myself, screaming at the TV. It was the
- 4:01Speaker 2: best all whites game I've seen since nineteen eighty two.
- 4:03Speaker 2: We look the part, the old defense of mentality gone.
- 4:07Speaker 2: There was clever footwork, there was great teamwork. There were
- 4:09Speaker 2: a few defensive lapses, and now all four teams in
- 4:12Speaker 2: Group G are tied for first place in the group.
- 4:15Speaker 2: How exciting. Bring on Egypt on Monday. Now we've all
- 4:19Speaker 2: heard about the people let go at work because they
- 4:21Speaker 2: posted something inflammatory on social media. So ACT now has
- 4:26Speaker 2: a policy to make a law that protects your freedom
- 4:29Speaker 2: of expression. They say, when regulators can threaten your career
- 4:33Speaker 2: over your personal beliefs, freedom of expression exists only on paper.
- 4:38Speaker 2: So what's in the plan and what is it covering.
- 4:40Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Annie O'Brien from the Free
- 4:42Speaker 2: Speech Union. That's next. It's eleven after five.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with Spark for Business Technology
- 4:51Speaker 1: that keeps business moving US talks.
- 4:53Speaker 2: B Yes, Bob's sent me a text, very true, Andrew,
- 4:56Speaker 2: the best I've ever seen the All Whites play. Probably
- 4:59Speaker 2: I've never been so pleased to be so wrong. And
- 5:01Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people like that as well.
- 5:03Speaker 2: I got to text saying dare to dream from my
- 5:06Speaker 2: best mate after the second goal. Dare to dream? Oh
- 5:09Speaker 2: yes I do another Texas says Andrew. Does Ryan still
- 5:12Speaker 2: work for One's it beat? Or is he unwell or what?
- 5:16Speaker 6: Well?
- 5:16Speaker 2: Ryan's on holiday. He's on a three week holiday and
- 5:19Speaker 2: I believe he's on a sojourn in front. He will
- 5:22Speaker 2: be back on Monday. Now. The ACT party is promising
- 5:25Speaker 2: to restore freedom of speech to professional regulators. If re elected,
- 5:29Speaker 2: they want to band the likes of real estate agents
- 5:31Speaker 2: who get struck off for not taking courses in tentivity,
- 5:34Speaker 2: or teachers who get told off for controversial Facebook posts.
- 5:38Speaker 2: So to speak to this, I'm joined by a member
- 5:40Speaker 2: of the Free Speech Union as Annie O'Brien. Good morning
- 5:43Speaker 2: to you, Annie, Good morning, How are you? I'm very well.
- 5:47Speaker 2: Why is a law like this necessary?
- 5:50Speaker 7: I'm basically we've been advocating for this for some time
- 5:54Speaker 7: because increasingly we're seeing regulated professions, and around Musia around
- 6:00Speaker 7: two hundred thousand New Zealanders are employed and regulated professions,
- 6:04Speaker 7: so you've got murs as, doctors, architects, that kind of thing.
- 6:10Speaker 7: These people have been increasingly finding that instead of just
- 6:14Speaker 7: being regulated on competence, ethics, misconduct, they're being also policed
- 6:23Speaker 7: on their thoughts on what they're posting on social media
- 6:26Speaker 7: in their private time, and some political beliefs.
- 6:31Speaker 2: And so they're writing a bill, right, they're writing a law,
- 6:36Speaker 2: So the law has to be quite exact. Will the
- 6:38Speaker 2: bill just include firings people who get fired from their
- 6:41Speaker 2: job because they've said something or any other type of reprimanding.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Will that also be included.
- 6:48Speaker 7: Well, we haven't got a bill from Act as such.
- 6:51Speaker 7: We've actually our lawyers have drafted a bill ourselves after
- 6:57Speaker 7: our chair Stephen Franks, went to an issue like this
- 7:01Speaker 7: that his profession as a lawyer, and for us, the
- 7:06Speaker 7: purpose is to restore political and ideo ideological neutrality in
- 7:12Speaker 7: the regulation of professional services. So this is not about
- 7:16Speaker 7: individual employment decisions made between the employer and the employee.
- 7:22Speaker 7: This is about regulation. So it's about ensuring that people
- 7:25Speaker 7: aren't called before the regulator for something they put on Facebook.
- 7:29Speaker 2: So proposed bill would avoid infringing on private businesses rights
- 7:35Speaker 2: to make their own decisions around employment. It's only about
- 7:37Speaker 2: the regulatory bodies, that's correct.
- 7:41Speaker 7: It's affirming the primary purpose of these professional regulatory bodies
- 7:45Speaker 7: is to promote and maintain competence, integrity, and kind of
- 7:49Speaker 7: the service that they're supposed to provide.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Well, that freedom of speech, the protection of that freedom
- 7:54Speaker 2: makes speech extend to those public service employees who we
- 7:58Speaker 2: expect to remain new. I mean, you can't have somebody
- 8:01Speaker 2: working for MB going on, you know, a socialist rents,
- 8:04Speaker 2: can you.
- 8:06Speaker 7: Well, it will to the extent that for example, nurses
- 8:12Speaker 7: employeed in the public service and they're also regulated by
- 8:17Speaker 7: a body that allows them to practice, so they would
- 8:21Speaker 7: be subject to the regulatory body, would be subject to
- 8:26Speaker 7: behaving in a way that was inline was making sure
- 8:29Speaker 7: that they were competent and ethical, but not worried about
- 8:33Speaker 7: you know, if they posted on Facebook that they supported
- 8:37Speaker 7: or opposed the True Principal Bill, for example, that's a
- 8:40Speaker 7: relevant to their work.
- 8:42Speaker 2: All right, good Steff, and I thank you for your
- 8:44Speaker 2: time today. Anneo Brian, the Free Speech Union Council member,
- 8:47Speaker 2: joins us. By the way, this is not We're not
- 8:48Speaker 2: an outlier with this sort of thing. The policy is
- 8:50Speaker 2: actually drawing on a rule and a law that came
- 8:54Speaker 2: in in Canada and Albita and they have a Regulated
- 8:57Speaker 2: Professions Neutrality Act. But it's been adapted to New Zealand.
- 9:01Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes. It is seventeen minutes after five.
- 9:04Speaker 2: You want some good news. Tourism is booming and an
- 9:07Speaker 2: overseas buyer has now paid forty five million dollars for
- 9:10Speaker 2: the holiday park at Hahe on Corimandel. That's a lot
- 9:13Speaker 2: of money considering that the people who owned it are
- 9:15Speaker 2: bought it in twenty sixteen for about sixteen million, so
- 9:18Speaker 2: they've made some coin has been bought by Tasman Tourism
- 9:21Speaker 2: New Zealand, a joint venture between an Australian private equity
- 9:24Speaker 2: firm and an investment company in the UAE. And before
- 9:27Speaker 2: you freak out that some overseas company is going to
- 9:30Speaker 2: resortify our precious ha hey, it just seems like the
- 9:34Speaker 2: company likes holiday parks that've been on a real estate
- 9:37Speaker 2: shopping spring in New Zealand. Tasman Tourism New Zealand has
- 9:40Speaker 2: now acquired twelve holiday parks over the six past six years,
- 9:44Speaker 2: including Wayhi Papoma and the other day they bought the
- 9:48Speaker 2: Raglan Park for five million dollars. It is eighteen minutes
- 9:50Speaker 2: after five. Apparently drink driving is on the run and
- 9:54Speaker 2: it's kids who don't do it anymore. The statistics are
- 9:58Speaker 2: quite extraordinary. We'll talk about this next. It is eighteen
- 10:00Speaker 2: after five.
- 10:02Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's
- 10:05Speaker 1: early hip with Andrew Dickens and Spark for business technology
- 10:10Speaker 1: that keeps business moving, the HUS talks.
- 10:12Speaker 2: It'd be of course. The President right now is in
- 10:14Speaker 2: France and he's attending the G seven and then he's
- 10:16Speaker 2: off to Geneva and we've had a text from someone
- 10:19Speaker 2: who obviously listens on iHeartRadio because we broadcast around the world,
- 10:23Speaker 2: and the text reads, We've just arrived in Geneva, Switzerland,
- 10:26Speaker 2: and good gracious the place is like a warzone, hundreds
- 10:28Speaker 2: of shops and other buildings boarded up, including the hotel
- 10:31Speaker 2: where we're staying, all because, of course the President is
- 10:34Speaker 2: heading towards Geneva to finally sign this deal, well, this
- 10:38Speaker 2: interim deal with around I'll have more on how that's
- 10:41Speaker 2: affected our global economy, but later on in the program.
- 10:44Speaker 2: At the time, right now, five twenty one, so we've
- 10:46Speaker 2: got some good news. Less people are drinking and driving,
- 10:49Speaker 2: and it's young people that are leading the charge. The
- 10:53Speaker 2: number of people convicted of driving under the influence has
- 10:55Speaker 2: fallen nearly ten percent in the last nine years. That's okay,
- 10:58Speaker 2: that's good. That includes both drug and alcohol, but convictions
- 11:02Speaker 2: for under nineteens dropped fifty two percent. So to talk
- 11:07Speaker 2: to this, Virginia Nichols is from the New Zealand Alcohol
- 11:09Speaker 2: and Beverage Council. She is the executive director.
- 11:12Speaker 8: Hello Virginia, good morning, Thanks Sandre, and thanks for having
- 11:16Speaker 8: us on.
- 11:17Speaker 2: It's a pleasure. Is this further evidence that young people
- 11:19Speaker 2: aren't into the drinking.
- 11:22Speaker 8: I think it's showing that you drinking is really changing
- 11:25Speaker 8: much for the better. I mean, we know that you've
- 11:28Speaker 8: made fifteen to seventy years more and not starving to drink.
- 11:32Speaker 8: They're drinking later, drinking less and less hazardously than previous generations.
- 11:36Speaker 8: I mean, the news Aven Health survey shows declining drinking
- 11:39Speaker 8: prevalence and hazardous drinking among young people, reflecting the generational
- 11:43Speaker 8: shift as a strong indicator that our drinking culture is changing.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Well, that is good news for our health. But the
- 11:50Speaker 2: other thing is we spend an awful lot of money trying
- 11:52Speaker 2: to stop people drink driving. So do you think the
- 11:54Speaker 2: anti drink driving marketing campaign has got into those young
- 11:57Speaker 2: people's heads.
- 12:00Speaker 8: I think it's a change in the culture that's come through.
- 12:02Speaker 8: I'm sure campaigns and things happen. I'm sure targeted sort
- 12:07Speaker 8: of targeted support programs are helping as well as the education.
- 12:11Speaker 8: So there is most of us agree really that targeted
- 12:14Speaker 8: education support programs really help. And since twenty nineteen there's
- 12:19Speaker 8: been a program called Smashed. It's a theater based education
- 12:22Speaker 8: program on reducing alcohol harm. It's been funded through a
- 12:26Speaker 8: charity supported by beer, wine and spirits delivered by the
- 12:30Speaker 8: Life Education Trust into high schools and every year we
- 12:33Speaker 8: see more than eighteen thousand secondary close students providing practical
- 12:37Speaker 8: information and advice to support better decision making.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Well, we may have to change that marketing because the
- 12:43Speaker 2: bad side of these statistics is convictions have risen for
- 12:46Speaker 2: those ages between thirty and thirty nine, and also for
- 12:49Speaker 2: those people age over fifty five. Why aren't they getting
- 12:52Speaker 2: the message?
- 12:54Speaker 9: Well?
- 12:54Speaker 8: And I think that the data brings some pretty youthful
- 12:57Speaker 8: information to the four real And again I think it
- 12:59Speaker 8: goes back to targeting, targeting those particular groups and actually
- 13:04Speaker 8: having a look at the justice information and seeing what's
- 13:07Speaker 8: happening there and seeing whether or not, for instance, targeted
- 13:09Speaker 8: support programs are needed more for those because these are
- 13:12Speaker 8: hazardous drinkers. And so we need to really zero in and
- 13:15Speaker 8: understand those figures, because I mean, the plus fifty fives,
- 13:19Speaker 8: they're up by a considerable amount, really so up by
- 13:22Speaker 8: nearly thirty six percent of their convictions. They have a
- 13:25Speaker 8: lower base to start with, But it still says that
- 13:28Speaker 8: we need to really understand the information. And as to say,
- 13:33Speaker 8: has this information, I'm sure health does as well, and
- 13:36Speaker 8: then collectively we need to be looking at how can
- 13:39Speaker 8: we target how can we help these people?
- 13:41Speaker 2: Fascinating Virginia. I thank you for your time, Virginia. And
- 13:43Speaker 2: of course you see an alcohol and pear Bridge Council
- 13:45Speaker 2: executive director. So those over fifty fives, boy, they still
- 13:49Speaker 2: like to drink and they still like to drive. And
- 13:50Speaker 2: when is it going to get through to you? It
- 13:53Speaker 2: is five to twenty four.
- 13:54Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on I on Radio
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- 13:59Speaker 2: AV News talksp It is five twenty six. I'm Andrew
- 14:03Speaker 2: Dickins in for Ryan Runs Back Monday. Good golly, good golly,
- 14:07Speaker 2: good lord, goodness, gracious me, parliamentarians are actually doing something
- 14:11Speaker 2: we've been asking for. They've come up with an infrastructure
- 14:14Speaker 2: plan for the next thirty years, and more remarkably, it
- 14:17Speaker 2: has rare cross party backing. Was produced independently by the
- 14:21Speaker 2: Infrastructure Commission and Labor and the Greens have called it
- 14:24Speaker 2: a long term, non partisan blueprint for fixing decades of
- 14:28Speaker 2: inconsistent infrastructure decisions. Good lord, now here's our problem. New
- 14:33Speaker 2: Zealand spends heavily on infrastructure but ranks poorly on efficiency
- 14:37Speaker 2: and asset management. You know, in terms of what we
- 14:40Speaker 2: spend on infrastructure, we're at the top of the tables.
- 14:43Speaker 2: In terms of what actually comes out and how much
- 14:44Speaker 2: it costs, we're at the bottom. So Minister christ Bishop
- 14:48Speaker 2: says the government's now acting on ten priority areas, including
- 14:51Speaker 2: reviewing transport funding, legislating long term investment plans, improving national
- 14:55Speaker 2: infrastructure data, and strengthening public sector project leadership. And further
- 14:59Speaker 2: work is needed on predictable funding signals yes please, multi
- 15:04Speaker 2: year budgeting yes please, and coordinated workforce planning absolutely yes please.
- 15:10Speaker 2: Treasury and mb are going to report back in twenty
- 15:12Speaker 2: twenty seven. But finally, finally, it might be that we're
- 15:14Speaker 2: going to stop the stop start nature of developing this
- 15:17Speaker 2: country and that will make everything quicker, more efficiently and
- 15:21Speaker 2: most importantly cheaper. And finally, I have to say this, congratulations,
- 15:25Speaker 2: the so called grown ups in charge of the country
- 15:28Speaker 2: are actually being grown up and ditching infrastructure as a
- 15:31Speaker 2: way to define themselves politically.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Used dogs d be.
- 15:35Speaker 6: We're going to talk to.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Nick Leggett from the Infrastructure Commissioner on this just before six. Look,
- 15:39Speaker 2: I'll tell you a story. I've told the story before.
- 15:42Speaker 2: I had a mate who was a tunneler and he
- 15:45Speaker 2: did the Victoria Park tunnel in Auckland, and when that
- 15:47Speaker 2: job finished he left New Zealand. But then the Waterview
- 15:50Speaker 2: Tunnel started and he came back again, which was good
- 15:53Speaker 2: because his wife and his kids were still here. He
- 15:55Speaker 2: left New Zealand to work because he's a tunneler. And
- 15:58Speaker 2: I remember at a barbecue him saying that if we
- 16:01Speaker 2: just got all our tunneling projects sorted and all in
- 16:04Speaker 2: a row, the experience could then move from one job
- 16:07Speaker 2: to the next and the country would save billions because
- 16:10Speaker 2: every project we do carries the cost of being like
- 16:14Speaker 2: a startup operation, and that is what is holding us back.
- 16:17Speaker 2: So this is a great move for the country, for
- 16:21Speaker 2: New Zealand. And now we're right around the country in
- 16:23Speaker 2: just a few moments time with all our reporters. Gavin
- 16:25Speaker 2: Gray out of the UK. A bit of a worrying thing.
- 16:27Speaker 2: Here a Russian warship that's going around the oceans around
- 16:33Speaker 2: England fired on a boat. It was a yacht. It
- 16:36Speaker 2: was a motoralless yacht and it gave him a spray.
- 16:39Speaker 2: So what's that about? And this is very rare in
- 16:42Speaker 2: peacetime as well, So what is that all about? And
- 16:45Speaker 2: as I said before, the Infrastructure Commission coming up, and
- 16:48Speaker 2: some interesting facts and figures about what has happened to
- 16:52Speaker 2: the global economy because of what has been happening in
- 16:55Speaker 2: the Strait of Horn moves and in the Middle East.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Things have changed and things have changed forever in some
- 17:03Speaker 2: very bizarre and interesting ways. So we'll have some figures
- 17:07Speaker 2: out of that, including trade deficits China, what's happening with
- 17:11Speaker 2: renewables and the bizarre case of what's happening with the
- 17:15Speaker 2: Japanese interest rates right now because they've gone up. What's
- 17:20Speaker 2: that about? That's still to come after News and Sport,
- 17:23Speaker 2: which is next on early edition with news Talks.
- 17:39Speaker 10: Very stupid, song.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Could say Hewett first, Andrew Dickens on early edition with
- 17:46Speaker 1: Spox for business technology that keeps business moving. News talks
- 17:50Speaker 1: at b are so bad, are so.
- 17:53Speaker 11: Bad it hurts good.
- 17:59Speaker 2: Welcome to Wednesday, the twenty fourth of Sorry, twenty four
- 18:03Speaker 2: minutes to six. I just about seeing the twenty fourth
- 18:05Speaker 2: of Journal ahead of myself already. It comes to shortest
- 18:08Speaker 2: stay by the way, good news for Bonnie Tyler. By
- 18:10Speaker 2: the way, the total eclipse of the Heart Singer is
- 18:12Speaker 2: now out of an induced coma. I saw that she
- 18:14Speaker 2: was an induced coma. I didn't know why. Apparently she
- 18:17Speaker 2: had some emergency intestinal surgery and then was placed in
- 18:20Speaker 2: an induced coma. But now she's out of that and
- 18:23Speaker 2: her condition is improving. However, obviously she's not going to tour.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Got a text here from Simon. Simon says, I am
- 18:29Speaker 2: absolutely disgusted about the money wasted over that scrap biometric
- 18:32Speaker 2: platform for immigration department. Heads need to roll will It
- 18:35Speaker 2: sounds like they are going to. But this was the
- 18:37Speaker 2: thing that Erica Stamford was on the warpath about this
- 18:40Speaker 2: building of a border biometric system. They spent over thirty
- 18:44Speaker 2: million dollars. I was watching the news last night and
- 18:46Speaker 2: somebody was the guy from MBY. I said, well, the
- 18:49Speaker 2: problem with the guys who were running the project is
- 18:51Speaker 2: they had an optimism bias. In other words, they thought
- 18:55Speaker 2: it was going to be a good idea. They started
- 18:57Speaker 2: working on it, they thought it was a good idea,
- 18:59Speaker 2: even though it wasn't working, and they still thought it
- 19:00Speaker 2: was a good idea. And when the minister asked them
- 19:02Speaker 2: how's that idea going, they go, it's good optimism buias
- 19:06Speaker 2: isn't that amazing. And it's not confined though, because we
- 19:09Speaker 2: all attacked all the public service. This is an immigration
- 19:12Speaker 2: department thing, this is a system. Do not think this
- 19:15Speaker 2: is confined to just the public sector. This is what
- 19:18Speaker 2: you know the Humphreys of this world do. I once
- 19:21Speaker 2: worked for a company that spent sixteen million dollars over
- 19:25Speaker 2: two years building a system, only to find that overseas
- 19:28Speaker 2: another company was building just the same thing and it
- 19:30Speaker 2: was a lot better and we could buy it for
- 19:32Speaker 2: one million. And so the sixteen million system got junked
- 19:38Speaker 2: and we bought the one million dollar system. And it
- 19:41Speaker 2: happens all over the place, but it shouldn't. It is
- 19:44Speaker 2: twenty two to six z right around the country. We
- 19:48Speaker 2: go Callen Proctor out of Dunedin. Good morning to you
- 19:51Speaker 2: morning Andrew. We all know that South Dunedinan's floodable. What's
- 19:55Speaker 2: going to happen to it in the future.
- 19:58Speaker 10: Well, three options have been proposed for its future here
- 20:01Speaker 10: and now it's up to us to decide. I suppose
- 20:03Speaker 10: this is to reduce the area's long term risk. One
- 20:06Speaker 10: of those is buying back the council buying back South
- 20:09Speaker 10: Dunedan properties under the scheme New modeling shows flood risks
- 20:15Speaker 10: can be significantly reduced over the next century. The other
- 20:19Speaker 10: proposals include raising the land, upgrading the drainage infrastructure, and
- 20:24Speaker 10: creating wetlands and waterways. That would cost between one point
- 20:27Speaker 10: six and two point five billion dollars over one hundred years. Though,
- 20:31Speaker 10: so that's less, they say, than maintaining the status quo.
- 20:34Speaker 10: So we have to choose one of them. The analysis
- 20:36Speaker 10: will go before the council next week. The program manages
- 20:39Speaker 10: Jonathan Rowe. He says they're not being asked to pick
- 20:41Speaker 10: an option, but to give approval to start community engagement.
- 20:44Speaker 2: I once asked him Anita mayor after the local body elections.
- 20:47Speaker 2: I said, ever thinking about abandoning South Dunedin and he
- 20:50Speaker 2: said never, So that's an interesting thing. How's the weather,
- 20:53Speaker 2: speaking of flooding?
- 20:54Speaker 10: More rain today, More rain, possibly heavy, but clearing to
- 20:57Speaker 10: find this afternoon southwesterlies and ten today.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Jamie Cunningham joins us from Christia Shad Jamie, Good morning.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Caterburry's got a new hospice.
- 21:05Speaker 9: Yes, so, after fifteen years of post quake planning, christ
- 21:09Speaker 9: Jurag is opening a purpose built hospice as demand for
- 21:12Speaker 9: end of life care is set to increase by fifty
- 21:14Speaker 9: percent in the next two decades. Now, the sixteen million
- 21:17Speaker 9: dollar facility, largely funded by donations, will provide specialist palliative
- 21:22Speaker 9: care and enhanced support for patients and families of all
- 21:26Speaker 9: ages across Canterbury. Nurse More Chief executive Louise Zakist says
- 21:30Speaker 9: it includes specialist spaces for young patients and outdoor areas
- 21:34Speaker 9: as they know that's important at end of life. She
- 21:37Speaker 9: says it's designed to make a challenging time as comfortable
- 21:40Speaker 9: and special as possible.
- 21:41Speaker 2: How's your weather?
- 21:43Speaker 9: Cloudy periods with a spot or two of light rain
- 21:45Speaker 9: this morning as northwesterlys turned southwesterly and a high of twelve.
- 21:49Speaker 2: Adam Wellington, Adam Cooper, good morning to you, morning, Andrew.
- 21:52Speaker 2: How's recovery on the Johns of the line after that
- 21:54Speaker 2: train crash.
- 21:55Speaker 12: Yeah, well it's taken a while, but things back in
- 21:56Speaker 12: action today. Eleven days since a Saturday night train went
- 21:59Speaker 12: to after a track offshoot at Kendala station and plodd
- 22:03Speaker 12: into a concrete barrier. Six people will hurt. The train
- 22:05Speaker 12: carriage was badly damaged. Now the line has been closed
- 22:08Speaker 12: since then. The train had to be lifted off the
- 22:10Speaker 12: tracks by a crane and taken to the workshop by road.
- 22:13Speaker 12: Kee bi Rawl says there was a lot of track
- 22:15Speaker 12: repair work to do, including repairing broken rail and repositioning
- 22:19Speaker 12: the tracks that had moved in the incident. They also
- 22:21Speaker 12: had to pull down some of the overhead electric wires
- 22:24Speaker 12: to enable that crane lift of the carriage too. Now
- 22:27Speaker 12: they are assuring train passages that they've since gone through
- 22:29Speaker 12: a robust testing process, including running test trains along the
- 22:34Speaker 12: line over the last few days to ensure all systems
- 22:36Speaker 12: are working and the network is safe for passengers. As
- 22:38Speaker 12: trains resume today, they are thanking everyone for their patients
- 22:41Speaker 12: and I'm sure it'll come as great news as well
- 22:43Speaker 12: for those going to the Super Rugby Final this Saturday
- 22:46Speaker 12: that the trains will be able to be back up
- 22:48Speaker 12: and running for that.
- 22:49Speaker 2: How's your weather?
- 22:50Speaker 12: Mostly cloudy today with a few showers in a high
- 22:52Speaker 12: fifteen and.
- 22:53Speaker 2: From workodn't hev it to mony? Good morning too, gorge
- 22:55Speaker 2: the morning. So bo Burns is a counselor and she
- 22:57Speaker 2: doesn't like she it is she I thought so great
- 23:02Speaker 2: name though, bo Burn bou Burn's great name. But she
- 23:04Speaker 2: doesn't like other counselors.
- 23:05Speaker 13: No, well, yes, she's launched a stinging rebuke of some
- 23:08Speaker 13: of her colleagues Andrews, so she's accusing some of them
- 23:11Speaker 13: of fostering a culture of bullying, intimidation, hostility and fear.
- 23:16Speaker 13: Now bo Burn says that look, she's walked out of
- 23:19Speaker 13: meetings twice in the past week due to the behavior
- 23:22Speaker 13: of others. She's a HEWIC counselor. She says, it politics,
- 23:26Speaker 13: you know what. It's often used as an excuse for
- 23:28Speaker 13: poor behavior, but it's damaging to democracy. She's also saying
- 23:31Speaker 13: that things work best when people feel safe to contribute,
- 23:34Speaker 13: challenge ideas, ask the questions and even change their minds.
- 23:38Speaker 13: And the Herald is reporting that chief executive, that's Phil Wilson.
- 23:42Speaker 13: He's written to the counselors reminding them about the standards
- 23:45Speaker 13: in professional obligations.
- 23:48Speaker 2: You can write that story every day for decades, something
- 23:51Speaker 2: You're right.
- 23:51Speaker 9: You could.
- 23:52Speaker 13: How's the cloudy isolated showers? Today's high sixteen here in Auckland?
- 23:56Speaker 2: Speaking whether I saw some social media posts from Mount
- 23:58Speaker 2: Hutt and also Mount Dobbs in the South Island yesterday
- 24:01Speaker 2: showing the picture of the mountains covered in snow and
- 24:05Speaker 2: they said, doesn't mount Heart look a lot better when
- 24:07Speaker 2: it's got its white jacket on. So the snow has
- 24:09Speaker 2: finally started to arrive. Now, the world economy at the
- 24:12Speaker 2: moment is a funny old place. Japan has risen its
- 24:14Speaker 2: interest rates to a thirty one year high. Prime minister
- 24:18Speaker 2: didn't want it to happen, but the central bank said,
- 24:21Speaker 2: we've got problems. We've got a tanking currency and we've
- 24:23Speaker 2: got inflation because of the energy thing. So they raised
- 24:25Speaker 2: the rates. You know what, they raised the rates from
- 24:27Speaker 2: zero point seventy five percent and they raised them two
- 24:31Speaker 2: one percent. Meanwhile, in Europe they're worried about China, and
- 24:34Speaker 2: in fact they've reached a record one billion euro a
- 24:38Speaker 2: day trade deficit with China. It's a record. They're worried
- 24:42Speaker 2: about the future of Europe's industrial backbone. So leaders are
- 24:45Speaker 2: going to meet on Thursday to discuss the trade of ballance,
- 24:48Speaker 2: and they're particularly concerned with China flooding the world with
- 24:51Speaker 2: evs now on electricity. The New York Times is reporting
- 24:55Speaker 2: today that the hangover from the Middle East conflict is
- 24:57Speaker 2: going to take a long time to clear. The The
- 25:00Speaker 2: energy market has permanently shifted towards electricity and renewables. In April,
- 25:06Speaker 2: wind and solar generated more electricity globally than gas, and
- 25:11Speaker 2: that was the first time in the planet's history. Five
- 25:14Speaker 2: years ago renewables and electricity was barely competitive. Now it
- 25:17Speaker 2: is clearly cheaper, and renewables now pay themselves off in
- 25:21Speaker 2: two years instead of thirty. So we've fundamentally changed. And
- 25:27Speaker 2: everybody is warning that the pre war oil prices won't
- 25:30Speaker 2: come back four months. It is sixteen to six. We've
- 25:34Speaker 2: got an infrastructure plan and it stretches thirty years. Nick
- 25:37Speaker 2: Leggett on this next, Gavin Gray out of the UK.
- 25:40Speaker 2: So you would have noticed that markets haven't exactly been
- 25:43Speaker 2: calm over recent years. We had COVID that the war
- 25:45Speaker 2: in Ukraine, the Trump tariffs and Middle East complex plenty
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- 26:56Speaker 2: Davin Gray out of the UK goobornetier.
- 27:00Speaker 13: Hi.
- 27:00Speaker 6: There.
- 27:01Speaker 2: So we've got a bit of Agibergi heading in the
- 27:03Speaker 2: English channel with a Russian worship firing on a yacht.
- 27:06Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it all seems to be kicking off lately
- 27:09Speaker 5: between the UK and Russia, and.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Earlier this morning our time, a small.
- 27:16Speaker 5: Motorless yacht appears to have drifted towards a Russian warship
- 27:21Speaker 5: in foggy conditions after setting off from the UK. And
- 27:24Speaker 5: it is then thought that the Russian warship fired these
- 27:27Speaker 5: warning shots from roughly for about four hundred and fifty
- 27:33Speaker 5: meters away from the yacht. That sounds a lot, doesn't it,
- 27:35Speaker 5: But actually by the distance of the sort of standards
- 27:38Speaker 5: of sea distance and sea travel, that is very close.
- 27:41Speaker 5: The incident happened about twenty nautical miles south of the
- 27:44Speaker 5: Isle of Wight, off the south of England, outside UK
- 27:48Speaker 5: territorial waters and between some of the Isle of White
- 27:52Speaker 5: and the south coast Normandy in northern France. And the
- 27:55Speaker 5: attacking ship, it said, was a Russian frigate, the Admiral Grigorovich.
- 28:00Speaker 5: Now what is that trip, Well, apparently it is regularly
- 28:04Speaker 5: escorting shadow fleet vessels through the English Channel. And you'll
- 28:08Speaker 5: remember that when we spoke as well at the weekend,
- 28:11Speaker 5: or rather Monday your time, that the UK forces had
- 28:15Speaker 5: boarded one of the shadow fleet vessels and has taken
- 28:19Speaker 5: it into effective custody and charged the captain we'll operate
- 28:23Speaker 5: in this shadow fleet and is currently off the south
- 28:27Speaker 5: coast of England.
- 28:28Speaker 2: Sos ll go I Meanwhile, the Defense Minister has flounced
- 28:31Speaker 2: out of Parliament with a stinging speech all about the
- 28:33Speaker 2: UK's defense spending. But now Nikias Dama has come out
- 28:37Speaker 2: and said that the UK is going to be involved
- 28:39Speaker 2: with defense. It was particularly the stread of horn moves
- 28:41Speaker 2: with you guys and the fringe.
- 28:44Speaker 5: Yes, although it'd be very interesting to know what exactly
- 28:47Speaker 5: the UK defense is supplying to this mission after all
- 28:51Speaker 5: that very loud resignation humbub last week. So the Prime
- 28:54Speaker 5: Minister says that they he and the French President Emmanuel
- 28:58Speaker 5: Micron are bringing together other countries prepared to protect vessels
- 29:02Speaker 5: in the Strait. Of course, the Straight is a key
- 29:04Speaker 5: oral shipping channel. Now we still really don't know about
- 29:08Speaker 5: this US Iran dei or do we We don't know
- 29:10Speaker 5: the details for it. But Sakis Sarma says, look, whatever happens,
- 29:13Speaker 5: the Strait is probably going to need some kind of policing,
- 29:16Speaker 5: and in May he said the UK could deploy Typhoon
- 29:20Speaker 5: fighter jets, drones and a worship HMS Dragon to a
- 29:23Speaker 5: future mission. The French president said that France could have
- 29:26Speaker 5: fighter jets patrol in the street very soon if required,
- 29:30Speaker 5: and that an aircraft carrier is in the region. Emmanuel
- 29:33Speaker 5: Matcranz said about twenty countries have made concrete contributions to
- 29:37Speaker 5: the suggestion, adding the four were present in the region.
- 29:41Speaker 5: Trump initially said that the US would not need much help,
- 29:45Speaker 5: then he said they would need some help, and added,
- 29:48Speaker 5: though it's probably not a bad idea to have a
- 29:50Speaker 5: ship or two from other countries take part in this
- 29:54Speaker 5: shipping and free passenger shipping in the Strait and policing
- 29:58Speaker 5: that from the.
- 29:58Speaker 2: Skies Great Seth Kevin Gray. It is nine minutes to
- 30:00Speaker 2: six a z be. So government's given the green light
- 30:04Speaker 2: to a thirty year infrastructure plan hes Bush.
- 30:08Speaker 11: That's very consistent with what this government is about, which
- 30:10Speaker 11: is tackling the tough issues, tackling the systemic issues that
- 30:14Speaker 11: have been deviled Zealand for too long, and being a
- 30:17Speaker 11: bit bold and courageous in making the right changes for
- 30:20Speaker 11: the right reasons.
- 30:21Speaker 2: So the government's agreed to thirteen of the sixteen recommendations
- 30:24Speaker 2: from the Infrastructure Commission, with the remaining three supported and
- 30:27Speaker 2: principal and remarkably, Labor and the Greens have also backed
- 30:30Speaker 2: a long term bipartisan approach. So we're joined by the
- 30:32Speaker 2: Infrastructure New Zealand CEO mclegg, Good morning to you.
- 30:36Speaker 6: Hello, Andrew.
- 30:37Speaker 2: This is quite amazing. Isn't a bipartisan I mean, how
- 30:40Speaker 2: much support are we getting from all the parties?
- 30:43Speaker 6: Well, both Karen McNaughty and from Labor and Julian Ginda
- 30:49Speaker 6: from the Greens put wrote forwards to the document, which
- 30:52Speaker 6: is really positive. I think it shows that irrespective of
- 30:57Speaker 6: political stripe, the party is a realizing that the way
- 31:01Speaker 6: infrastructure is done I too driven by politics, too prone
- 31:06Speaker 6: to lurch when there's change of government, and if you
- 31:10Speaker 6: are leaving government, you don't like to see all your
- 31:12Speaker 6: project's canceled. So there has to be a more sustainable
- 31:16Speaker 6: funded pipeline that moves irrespective of political cycles. And the
- 31:21Speaker 6: reason for that, Andrew. You know, there's some really sort
- 31:23Speaker 6: of bold numbers up front. We spend enough on infrastructure
- 31:28Speaker 6: deivil take, we're in the we're above average in the
- 31:31Speaker 6: oe c D, but the value we get from every
- 31:34Speaker 6: dollar we spend is in the bottom sort of one
- 31:37Speaker 6: or two of the oe c D. And that gap
- 31:41Speaker 6: is what we've got to close. We've got to we've
- 31:44Speaker 6: got to do better and get you know, get more
- 31:47Speaker 6: efficiencies out of the spend and plan better over the
- 31:49Speaker 6: long term. And the shame, the sad thing is it's
- 31:52Speaker 6: politics that does us.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, but when we when we say infrastructure,
- 31:59Speaker 2: people immediately think roads and trains, but it's actually it's
- 32:03Speaker 2: actually an awful lot more than that is labor regulations
- 32:06Speaker 2: and all sorts of things, isn't it. What is the
- 32:07Speaker 2: most important thing we need to do to improve efficiency
- 32:11Speaker 2: and reduce cost.
- 32:12Speaker 6: Well, it's the whole planning system. So if you think
- 32:15Speaker 6: about Chris Bishop's RAMA reforms, that's a big part of
- 32:19Speaker 6: what we're talking about, but the schools, hospitals, water, the
- 32:23Speaker 6: list goes on, even housing and the system that delivers housing.
- 32:26Speaker 6: So what we have to do is the first thing
- 32:29Speaker 6: I think that's really important here is attach proper funding.
- 32:34Speaker 6: So when a project is announced, it goes into a
- 32:37Speaker 6: pipeline that there's actually money appropriated to build it. There
- 32:42Speaker 6: are a lot of phantom projects that have come and
- 32:45Speaker 6: gone over the years, and people get very excited. You
- 32:48Speaker 6: think about let's get Wellington moving and Auckland light rail.
- 32:52Speaker 6: You know, potentially good projects, but they were allowed to
- 32:56Speaker 6: be sort of picked off politically because that the money
- 32:59Speaker 6: to actually deliver them was never properly put forward and
- 33:04Speaker 6: so one that's a really good way of getting efficiency.
- 33:07Speaker 6: But there I'll tell you a big part of this plan, Andrew,
- 33:09Speaker 6: that I think you and people listening will be interested in.
- 33:12Speaker 6: When we talk about an infrastructure deficit in New Zealand,
- 33:14Speaker 6: we're talking about sixty percent of what we're talking about
- 33:18Speaker 6: when we mentioned a deficit is money. We failed to
- 33:21Speaker 6: spend on the infrastructure assets we've already built. And you
- 33:25Speaker 6: mentioned rhads, you mentioned roads, maintenance, renewing of those things
- 33:29Speaker 6: so they last longer and we get better value for money.
- 33:32Speaker 6: Once again, we are a great nation where it comes
- 33:35Speaker 6: to the set and forget, and I'll give you one
- 33:37Speaker 6: big example.
- 33:39Speaker 2: Don't don't depress us. We've had enough what we understand
- 33:41Speaker 2: and we wish it all the very best of luck.
- 33:43Speaker 2: And I thank you.
- 33:45Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early
- 33:48Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and Spark for Business Technology that
- 33:52Speaker 1: keeps business moving, News talks that be What.
- 33:55Speaker 2: In Mike, did you watch the game? Were you converted
- 33:57Speaker 2: to the beautiful game? I wasn't converted, but my observation
- 34:01Speaker 2: as an amateur was it was a quality game. All
- 34:03Speaker 2: the goals were good, there were lots of goals, still
- 34:05Speaker 2: a draw and we were better than we thought. And
- 34:07Speaker 2: that's all good news, isn't it. Anyway, we've got a
- 34:10Speaker 2: little bit of it. We've got an optimism bias now,
- 34:12Speaker 2: could have an optimism by it's going to talk to
- 34:14Speaker 2: the bloke who's running that envy thing this morning and
- 34:16Speaker 2: see and see where this goes. This is scandal, isn't so.
- 34:19Speaker 2: Police had the same thing with their insist computer system
- 34:22Speaker 2: as well. It happens everywhere.
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