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MTM Interview with Dr. Bob Sears...Are Pediatric Vaccines Safe? Part One · More Than Medicine

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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to More Than Medicine, where Jesus is more than enough for the ills that plague our culture and our country.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hosted by author and physician Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Robert Jackson and his wife Carlotta and daughter Hannah Miller.
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  SPEAKER_01: So listen up because the doctor is in.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to More Than Medicine.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Robert Jackson, bringing to you biblical insights and stories from the country doctor's rusty, dusty scrapbook.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm privileged today to have online with me all the way from Southern California Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bob Sears, who has worked with a group of doctors out west to produce a book called The Silver Book that I've been recommending to my patients about informed consent for pediatric vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's been a real help to me and to my patients.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Sears, welcome to More Than Medicine.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, thank you, Robert.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm very happy to talk to you today and talk to the audience and share what I know about vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_02: Tell tell us a little bit about your background and your family and your practice, that sort of thing, so my listeners will know who you are.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm a pediatrician in Southern California.
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  SPEAKER_03: I joined my dad about uh 30 years ago.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's been a pediatrician for, I don't know, you know, 50, 60 years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh how about that?
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  SPEAKER_03: He's uh Dr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Bill Sears, and um he's done a lot of writing and speaking over the years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and so um I joined him and started working.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh I did my um my medical training at Georgetown University in Washington, DC.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then I learned how to be a pediatrician out here in a children's hospital in Los Angeles.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then I've just been a private practice pediatrician in my office uh with my dad ever since.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I've been um just learning about kind of uh thinking outside the box and not always just going with everything I I was taught during training.
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  SPEAKER_03: I learned how to think for myself and I learned at Georgetown University how to analyze data and science and and make decisions that I felt were right instead of just kind of you know going with the party line that I was told was right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I remember what one of my Georgetown professors actually told me many years ago.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um whenever a represent representative from a pharmaceutical company shows you science or data and tells you, you know, about their medical products, you always have to take it with a grain of salt, maybe a few grains of salt.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because they're there to sell you something.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the more I realized over the years that so much of our medical policy is uh is put forward or driven by uh by the pharmaceutical companies and and the things they make, the things they want to sell.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I started to realize a lot of medical policies might have been kind of under the influence of money and pharmaceutical companies instead of just pure raw science and just doctors, you know, using their judgment and making decisions and deciding what's right for their individual patients.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I kind of realized that early on in my career and been practicing that way ever since.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's kind of how I kind of what led me to the issue of vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, so how did you get started with the vaccine debate?
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  SPEAKER_02: Was it before COVID or after?
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, no, it was way before COVID.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I was probably one of the original doctors that started speaking out about vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_03: And and, you know, Robert, I've never been against vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_03: I've always just been about vaccine education, you know, learning everything you can before you just jump in and get everything, um, weighing the pros and cons of vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think what really opened my eyes, Robert, was back in the early 90s, um, they developed a hepatitis B vaccine that they're recommending for all newborns in the United States.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think most people know hepatitis B is a sexually transmitted infection.
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  SPEAKER_03: So um newborns and healthy kids, you know, they they don't catch hepatitis B.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, they don't.
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  SPEAKER_03: And and so when when our CDC and and our medical policymakers pushed this vaccine and approved it for using every single newborn born in our country, that made no sense to me.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then I thought back to my my Georgetown professor that told me, oh, you always got to think, you know, is something coming from a pharmaceutical company or or not?
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  SPEAKER_03: And I realized very quickly this recommendation came directly from two doctors who worked for pharmaceutical companies to develop this vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they um made, you know, they they convinced the CDC and the FDA that that every newborn should get this vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you know, Robert, most doctors went along with it just because, hey, the CDC says you gotta do this, then they you know they just said, okay, well, I'll listen to the CDC.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I decided to think for myself and realize newborns don't need this vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I started um thinking thinking outside the box essentially.
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  SPEAKER_02: When in your medical career did you begin to distrust the CDC?
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  SPEAKER_03: That that very day it was it was it was that vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I had I had total trust for the CDC before that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you and me both.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that was that was back in the in the mid-90s.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so um I think the CDC was doing a lot of good work back then, and everyone did trust them just like I did.
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  SPEAKER_03: But when the CDC makes a medical policy that makes no sense at all, whether it's vaccines or anything, people start to question.
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  SPEAKER_03: And fast forward 30 years, that's what happened during COVID.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the CDC was making policy decisions and recommendations and mandates that made no sense to the majority of the public.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's why I'm no longer alone in this fight.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, millions of people, billions of people all over the country have joined in the the pursuit and the quest for medical freedom and medical truth because the CDC messed up big time with COVID.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the federal government and the policymakers, everyone that was kind of directing all the shutdowns and the vaccine mandates and the mRNA technology.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, everyone joined me and and many other doctors, and and now we I think we all share a healthy a healthy uh distrust for the CDC.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, same thing happened to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I gave vaccines to all my children and all my patients for until COVID.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then during COVID, it's like I I realized all of a sudden I couldn't trust the CDC because of the the mandates and the things that they were saying about a vaccine that had no uh decent research to back it up.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I just realized all of a sudden these guys are not telling me the truth.
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  SPEAKER_02: I I cannot trust them.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so uh i i it was that that that really opened my eyes.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I'm like you during the hepatitis B vaccine promotion for children.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had a hard time with that because a lot of my moms would ask me why, and I would look at them and say, ma'am, I have no earthly idea why.
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  SPEAKER_02: The CDC has recommended it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I I should have smelled a rat way back then.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and yeah, and you know, that's a good, it's a very good um kind of um example of how Bobby Kennedy Jr.
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  SPEAKER_03: is trying to clean up the CDC and that he he removed that recommendation for uh for babies to get that.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's he's doing things that that make sense, but I don't know how much he's gonna be able to change at the CDC.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, he's gonna try.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, he's one man against an army.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how much he can change.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's one man against an army of people who have a strong financial incentive to keep things as they are.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you you might say to yourself, well, that's just one vaccine, Bob.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, maybe maybe the CDC got one vaccine wrong, but maybe they're right about all the other vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, I wasn't just gonna assume that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I decided I better research every vaccine and take a look at how the CDC evaluated it and approved it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I came to realize other vaccines didn't make a lot of sense to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you know, some did, but some didn't.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so I I kind of spent a lot of years digging into every single vaccine and and came to the conclusion, you know, that that maybe not every vaccine is is right for every baby.
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  SPEAKER_03: And um fast forward to the COVID vaccine, Robert, what everyone has realized about the COVID vaccine, how they they oversold how good it works, because it doesn't really work nearly as good as they claimed.
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  SPEAKER_03: They hid safety concerns, they fast-tracked the safety research, and they put in, you know, ingredients in there that cause a lot of inflammation and cause a lot of bad reactions, and that's what opened everyone's eyes to this issue.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like it's what opened your eyes, Robert, to the problems of vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_03: But but let me tell you again, you might say, well, that's just the COVID vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I discovered the same thing is true for the majority of vaccines we've been giving all these kids for all these years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they they hid safety problems, they put ingredients in there that are problematic, they they did the safety research in a way that was too quick, too small, they didn't do enough safety research, and the vaccines don't work nearly as well as they want them to or they wish they would.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's true for all vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_03: So for your audience, if if you've just woken up to this issue in the last few years because of COVID, but you've assumed your whole life that every other vaccine we use is awesome and safe and is good for you, I think you have to take a deeper look at that because what I found is is uh there there's a lot uh to to look into and there's a lot of potential problems with a lot of these vaccines, just like there is with the COVID vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, now let me ask you this question.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now I've uh I've heard it alleged that these vaccines do not have the double-blind randomized controlled trial studies that many medications have that reach the market.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, is that a true assertion?
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  SPEAKER_03: That is a hundred percent true.
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  SPEAKER_03: No vaccines have ever been tested in a large test group compared to a placebo group who got like no vaccines, who got nothing, you know, who got like an inert placebo.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's no placebo safety research.
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  SPEAKER_03: All they do is take a big group of people given the vaccine and and record all their side effects.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then they they decide, you know, what what are all the legitimate side effects, and they they put that in the in the warning, you know, in the package insert that no one ever reads.
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  SPEAKER_03: They've never tested these against against people who have not had vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and and that's critical data in any area of medicine.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you know as well as I do.
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  SPEAKER_03: You can't claim anything is safe unless you test it against a group of people that that didn't get the product.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_02: They got to be tested against the inert placebo.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I understand that did not happen with any of the vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, not a single one.
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  SPEAKER_03: And and so, and that that's that's that's one problem during during the you know the licensing and the safety research and the approval process.
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  SPEAKER_03: But Robert, I'm gonna tell you what concerns me more is once a vaccine is approved by the FDA, all research ends.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like they don't keep research researching it to make sure it's okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and they they never do what's called outcomes research.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: They never study a group of these people 20 years later and compare it to a group of people that didn't get the vaccine 20 years later.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, they like so so now we're giving you know people as many as 18 different vaccine components in in some like you know, a hundred different doses all throughout their childhood.
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  SPEAKER_03: We're giving kids all these vaccines, and we started doing this, you know, 20, 30 years ago.
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  SPEAKER_03: What we need to do, Robert, is say, hey, let's take a million kids who got all the all those vaccines, look how healthy they are, and let's find a million kids who didn't get vaccines and look how healthy they are.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yep, and let's compare the outcomes of the two groups.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've never done that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no one's even started doing that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and and honestly, you know, the the federal government asked the CDC to start this research about 12 to 15 years ago, and the CDC said no.
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  SPEAKER_03: If the CDC had started that research 12 years ago, we'd be you know halfway into that study.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we would have we'd be halfway informed.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So so so everyone that assumes vaccines are safe and they're good for you and you have to do them, they can't show you one single research study that proves that's true.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that should boggle your mind.
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  SPEAKER_03: That should shock anybody who's who's thinking about vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Nowhere in medicine do we assume safety.
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  SPEAKER_03: Nowhere.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, um, I mean, you're you're given people brought blood pressure medications or cholesterol medications or diabetes medications.
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  SPEAKER_03: You it you have to prove that those patients are better off taking that medicine for 15, 20 years in order to to have your medication become the medical standard.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's correct.
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  SPEAKER_03: But that's just not true about vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: No, the and that's that's the fault of our government and the FDA.
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  SPEAKER_03: They don't require any sort of outcomes research to keep vaccines on the market.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's not the pharmaceutical company's fault.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's that's our policymakers' fault.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, we should hold everyone accountable to to prove these are a good thing for kids for the long term before we make everyone embark on it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the good news is, you know, Robert, is everyone is now wise to this.
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  SPEAKER_03: They are now figuring this out.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so many young families nowadays are are looking at this more closely instead of automatically doing it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I was like, let me jump to a particular question that I'm asking my medical practice.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm a family doctor, and I take care of adults and children.
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  SPEAKER_02: And the moms ask me all the time, Dr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Jackson, do these vaccines cause autism?
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's a question that comes up frequently, and in fact, that is the main reason most of my moms do not want to give pediatric vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_02: How how do you deal with that question?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, the way I deal with that question is I look at my practice of patients, and I I figured out I get about 600 or so new babies born into my practice every year.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so over the last 10 years, I you know I've had about you know five or six hundred new new babies a year, and they stay in my practice and they grow up in my practice.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um out of that 600 a year, I probably have about maybe one or two kids that develop autism.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's about, you know, maybe one and 300 or one in, you know, maybe one or two, maybe one or two kids for every 600 kids.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and um all my patients grow up in my office without vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, Robert.
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  SPEAKER_03: So this is you know, all those 600 kids every year, they're not getting vaccines, they're not getting autism except for maybe one or two.
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  SPEAKER_03: Compare that to the known rates of autism, which is about one in 30 kids, roughly.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's what I've been hearing.
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  SPEAKER_02: One in 34 was my last count.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or in California, boys, it's one in 12 boys in California developing autism.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, in my practice, it's about one in 600 or one in 300.
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  SPEAKER_03: Compare that to the nationwide rates.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, my my practice has about one-tenth to to one-twentieth or even less the amount of autism.
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  SPEAKER_03: But that doesn't prove that vaccines cause autism, but it does show you raising a baby without vaccines has a very, very, very low rate of uh of having autism, developing your child.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um now, um the other thing they they've done, Robert, is they just haven't researched whether vaccines cause autism.
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  SPEAKER_03: The only way to research it is to take a million kids and give them vaccines and then take a million kids and don't give them vaccines and compare the autism rates.
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  SPEAKER_03: And again, they haven't done that research.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um they've they've done a bunch of pretend research that that kind of shows, well, we didn't find a link between vaccines and autism in our in our carefully designed research study.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel like they they haven't done very good research to look at that.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I kind of feel like Robert that we see we can't scientifically say that we know vaccines cause autism.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because I don't think anyone's really proven that it does cause autism.
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  SPEAKER_03: They certainly connect but but we haven't proven that it doesn't, or we haven't demonstrated that we know it doesn't cause autism either.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's still up in the air, still waiting for the right research.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I agree.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well now, sometimes my moms are, you know, they're pressured, they're pressured by the school system, they're pressured by the grandparents, and they don't really know what to do in terms of vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so they'll ask me, if if you had to avoid one single vaccine, which one would you consider to be the most risky?
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  SPEAKER_02: And you know, that's a tough question.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I do you ever answer a question like that?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I do.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: I would say for the most part, all my patients don't really get any vaccines while they're young.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some of my patients will get vaccines as they get older for school.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, but just not when they're young.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I I don't really have patients tell me they just want to skip the one most dangerous vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, they they just don't want any vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I don't find myself singling any particular vaccine out very much.
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  SPEAKER_03: But but if I had to say, based on looking at all the possible side effects, probably the MMR vaccine, measles Mumps Rubella vaccine, when you give it to a baby, it probably has the biggest list of potential bad side effects compared to any other vaccine.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I tell my moms.
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  SPEAKER_02: I tell them if you got to avoid one, avoid MMR.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_02: And if you feel like you have to get it later in life, well their immune system will be ready to handle it much better than when they're a year old and 15 months old.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, and that that's that's possibly true.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: And um but again, you know, a number of vaccines have potential risk, and uh and uh you know, I don't again, I don't think uh you can't just say, I'll get all the other vaccines, just don't give me the MMR.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know because collectively all those shots have significant risk, particularly when you give six or seven different things at one time.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well now an another question um that I get a uh a lot is about vaccines in pregnancy.
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  SPEAKER_02: My moms call me all the time, and they're they're pregnant, their doctors are wanting them to get a flu shot and a COVID vaccine and various other immunizations while they're pregnant, and they're like, Are you kidding me?
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  SPEAKER_02: And they're shocked that they'd be recommended to get vaccines while pregnant when they can't take any m medicines by mouth.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're wanting the vaccine to vaccinate 'em and inject stuff into their bodies.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so they call me and they want to know what I think about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So how how do you respond to that?
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  SPEAKER_02: What do you say to your patients?
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I um I did um I did four podcast episodes on this, Robert.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um on pregnancy vaccines.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I have what it's called the Vaccine Book Companion Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: The The Vaccine Book is one of the books I wrote.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I didn't have a pregnancy vaccine section in my vaccine book.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I I recorded four podcast episodes to talk about this.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that anything I left out of the vaccine book, I could, I could put it into my podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: So if anyone's really interested, I'd encourage you to listen to those four episodes on the Vaccine Book Companion podcast.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_03: But um I'm with you, Robert.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I'm kind of leery about injecting anything pharmaceutical into a pregnant woman.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_03: Every vaccine, the four vaccines we give pregnant women is uh you said two of them, the flu and the COVID shot, but there's also the whooping cough tetanus vaccine that we give pregnant women.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_03: And there's a brand new vaccine just developed for RSV that we give pregnant women.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_03: And I mean I can't imagine anybody signing up to take a brand new vaccine during pregnancy but uh I I have concerns about that there's a there's a huge lack of safety data on these vaccines in pregnancy.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah yeah you can't really do good good safety research during pregnancy because you can't examine the fetus right during pregnancy.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: And they don't examine babies once they're born to look for you know effects from the vaccines.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_03: So there's not really any way to verify whether or not these are safe.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I agree.
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  SPEAKER_03: And these vaccines cause a lot of inflammation and they they activate your immune system and all those um vaccine induced artificial immunities go through the placenta and get into the baby and that's not always a good thing when you give a you know a yet to be born baby all kinds of artificial immune influences.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_03: And um so I I don't know I you know obviously you talk to your doctor about it but um most of my I'd say all of my patients opt out of vaccines during pregnancy they'd rather trust their body to do what it needs to do instead of trusting a an untested pharmaceutical product.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah I understand that well now you mentioned the other ingredients that are in vaccines that can cause harm what are some of those other ingredients yeah you know there's there's aluminum is in about half the vaccines we give babies uh there used to be mercury but they they've taken the mercury they've taken the mercury out of all the vaccines except some of the flu shots still have mercury there's a lot of other chemicals there's like formaldehyde um a lot of chemicals I can't even pronounce yeah uh and but also it's not just the chemicals Robert all the germ components that are put into vaccines they're all uh genetically modified or um altered in the laboratory they're crossbred they're changed um some of them are genetically engineered germ components there's nothing natural about the germ components that they put in vaccines and people that promote vaccines they they like to say vaccines are just they're just the germs you know in and a little bit of saline and nothing to worry about but they're not the natural germs they're very artificial versions of the germs yeah yeah and so um what's going into your body is is is creating a very artificial immune response and I mean that might be okay if you're giving it to an to a an older child or a healthy adult we get all kinds of artificial things put into us yeah yeah but when it comes to a newborn baby or a pregnant mom you just don't want all that artificial stuff going in and activating your baby's immune system.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_03: It just it doesn't make sense I think babies being raised naturally and only having natural influences on their immune system is a much healthier way to go.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well I've I've got other questions Dr.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: Bob if this is pretty much the end of this podcast can we come back and do this again next week?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um you know what Robert we sure can yeah I'd be happy to all right well I'm gonna close this up today and I'm gonna I've got a list of other questions I'd like to ask you that my patients ask um and uh you're a a good expert to have on a podcast to answer some of these questions for my patients and I really appreciate you being available.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'm your host Dr.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_02: Robert Jackson my guest today is Dr.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: Bob Sears he's a pediatrician from out in California he's part author I or maybe the whole author I don't know the whole deal on that Dr.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: Bob about the uh in the vaccine book uh by the physicians for informed consent did I say all that correctly yep okay I want to make sure I was right and I'm gonna ask you about that book when we come back and and do our next session because I want my patients to know about uh the book and about how that came to be.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_02: All right we're wrapping up today we'll be back again next week until then remember Jesus loves you and your doctor loves you and I pray that the Lord will bless you real good.
• 27:24
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• 27:28
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• 27:39
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