Latest / Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald / Jelly Roll and Bunny XO Divorce & Real Housewives of Rhode Island Mistress Exposed
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- 0:58Speaker 3: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop.
- 1:02Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well, there's so much
- 1:05Speaker 4: to discuss. I'm so excited to get into today's show.
- 1:08Speaker 4: I was on vacation. Of course, you had new and
- 1:11Speaker 4: fabulous episodes, but a lot in the world of pop
- 1:15Speaker 4: culture has happened. I talk about my crazy trip in
- 1:20Speaker 4: the Bahamas. We did this thing where you go to
- 1:23Speaker 4: this place called Pig Beach, and there's a lot that
- 1:27Speaker 4: happened with the pigs and a I have to say,
- 1:32Speaker 4: I put it on my Patreon on Get Me Behind
- 1:35Speaker 4: Gates and I have never gotten more responses as this
- 1:39Speaker 4: is your funniest vacation recap that you've ever said.
- 1:44Speaker 3: And thank you very much. So please check out Patreon.
- 1:48Speaker 4: I also, you know, do an episode every Friday, as
- 1:53Speaker 4: you know, which is just the more juicy thoughts. But
- 1:57Speaker 4: the top is the Get Me Behind Gates level and
- 1:59Speaker 4: that's where I talk about the trip. So if you're
- 2:00Speaker 4: wondering where's the trip, It's a one of a kind.
- 2:03Speaker 4: And of course, I've been on there for 10 years almost.
- 2:07Speaker 4: So once you join, you get to go back to
- 2:10Speaker 4: all the juicy episodes and no commercials. So I wanted
- 2:14Speaker 4: to share that with you. But I made it back alive.
- 2:17Speaker 4: And here I am with the pigs.
- 2:20Speaker 3: And the bathing suit that I'm wearing is from TA3.
- 2:24Speaker 3: I've been wearing them for a while. And they snatch
- 2:26Speaker 3: you in. And there you go. So I just wanted
- 2:27Speaker 3: you to know that. Now, Jelly Roll... And his wife,
- 2:32Speaker 3: Bunny XO, broke up this week. He filed for divorce.
- 2:39Speaker 4: I listened to Bunny XO has a podcast called Dumb
- 2:44Speaker 4: Blonde Podcast. And there were many clips of her podcast
- 2:48Speaker 4: on TMZ. I listened to the whole thing. How did
- 2:52Speaker 4: this couple break up? They were the poster children for
- 2:57Speaker 4: when a broke... convicted drug dealer who's overweight but can
- 3:05Speaker 4: sing with face tattoos falls in love with a happy
- 3:10Speaker 4: hooker in Vegas and they decide to get married on
- 3:13Speaker 4: the first night they meet. How did this marriage not work?
- 3:18Speaker 3: It was shocking to all of us.
- 3:20Speaker 4: And especially when they suddenly became Christian in the last
- 3:24Speaker 4: year and a half of their marriage. There's so much
- 3:28Speaker 4: about this couple that I've always really liked Jelly Rolls music.
- 3:32Speaker 4: Then I came across her and saw how popular she
- 3:36Speaker 4: was with her podcast and her personality. She's extremely attractive, sexy, gorgeous.
- 3:44Speaker 4: So you look more into this relationship and they both
- 3:48Speaker 4: admit that she was the one that had some funds.
- 3:53Speaker 4: He was totally broke and was just singing to like
- 3:56Speaker 4: 20 people in a bar. And she's like, listen, He's like,
- 4:00Speaker 4: I'm fixing to get custody of my daughter. She's like,
- 4:03Speaker 4: I don't know if we're going to work out as
- 4:04Speaker 4: a couple, but I will help.
- 4:06Speaker 3: You get your daughter.
- 4:08Speaker 4: So she helps him get a place and lawyers and everything.
- 4:12Speaker 3: They get custody. And then slowly his career starts to
- 4:15Speaker 3: take off. The whole time she's taking care of him.
- 4:19Speaker 4: She is very honest that she had sugar daddies paying
- 4:23Speaker 4: for everything.
- 4:24Speaker 3: So they're married.
- 4:25Speaker 4: He knows she's still seeing sugar daddies, but that's taking
- 4:29Speaker 4: care of the kid and his career.
- 4:32Speaker 3: And then they explode on stage.
- 4:35Speaker 4: And every time I've seen them, him perform, he's thanks
- 4:38Speaker 4: bunny loves bunny and Lord Jesus Christ. And, you know,
- 4:43Speaker 4: if I, and I think to anybody sitting around, they're like,
- 4:46Speaker 4: Oh my God, this is the ultimate like story of
- 4:49Speaker 4: Jesus and redemption. And the fact that these two people
- 4:54Speaker 4: that come from, you know, prison and, and, you know,
- 4:57Speaker 4: being a sex worker and, you know, from biblical times,
- 5:01Speaker 4: Jesus hung out with the prostitutes and go visit that
- 5:05Speaker 4: person in prison. And it was like, oh my God.
- 5:07Speaker 4: And there's a good country singer. This is like amazing.
- 5:10Speaker 3: And then I was like, wait, they have an open marriage.
- 5:12Speaker 3: That's weird.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:13Speaker 4: They have an open marriage and, uh, she brings in girls.
- 5:16Speaker 4: And then it was like, oh, then there's a clip
- 5:19Speaker 4: of him crying on a podcast. I cheated on bunny.
- 5:23Speaker 4: So he cheated on her with someone that they didn't
- 5:25Speaker 4: all include in their fun threesome or whatever the case,
- 5:29Speaker 4: or she wanted girls or didn't want girls or I
- 5:32Speaker 4: don't know, but they're still, oh my God. And then
- 5:35Speaker 4: they're trying to have a baby. So then we hear
- 5:38Speaker 4: he files for divorce, not her. But in the meantime,
- 5:42Speaker 4: he went from like 400 pounds to like 200 pounds
- 5:46Speaker 4: real quick and got himself, you know, full real housewives,
- 5:53Speaker 4: husband jersey chompers like he went to the same place
- 5:56Speaker 4: like every jersey husband has gone to that's been on
- 6:00Speaker 4: TV on Bravo and he gets the new chompers and
- 6:03Speaker 4: he really slims down and you're like ooh we've seen
- 6:09Speaker 4: this ozempic divorce happen before and it all makes us
- 6:13Speaker 4: nervous especially when all of America and Christians are cheering
- 6:17Speaker 4: for this this couple that just man they have each
- 6:20Speaker 4: other's back right and left you know and You're like, okay,
- 6:24Speaker 4: so now he's going on hikes and everything. And all
- 6:28Speaker 4: of a sudden I'm on vacation in the Bahamas being,
- 6:31Speaker 4: I'm being chased by pigs on a beach.
- 6:34Speaker 3: And I'm like, what? And I see this whole thing.
- 6:39Speaker 3: He's filed for divorce. He, okay.
- 6:42Speaker 4: You're like, you were, didn't have a pot to piss
- 6:47Speaker 4: in or extremely unhealthy in your body. She is this
- 6:53Speaker 4: stunning girl that's the happy hooker of Vegas.
- 6:57Speaker 3: It becomes stepmother of the decade, okay? How is this happening? Wait, what?
- 7:04Speaker 4: So then we look more into it and people have
- 7:07Speaker 4: all these conspiracy theories of what is it?
- 7:10Speaker 3: What is this marriage?
- 7:11Speaker 4: You know, is it so that now when you type
- 7:13Speaker 4: in Jelly Roll Files, it's just Jelly Roll Filed for
- 7:17Speaker 4: Divorce because there was this other thing called Jelly Roll
- 7:19Speaker 4: Files that.
- 7:21Speaker 3: is way more nefarious.
- 7:22Speaker 4: And it's a clip of him talking in a very
- 7:25Speaker 4: unchristian way, referring to him and his wife as Ghislaine
- 7:30Speaker 4: and Epstein.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Could he be joking? I don't know. I don't know.
- 7:33Speaker 4: There's all these things going on. And you're like, what?
- 7:37Speaker 4: So then I listened to her podcast, the Tell All podcast.
- 7:41Speaker 4: And my God, you know, this is the happiest, most cheerful,
- 7:48Speaker 4: most delightful divorce ever.
- 7:50Speaker 3: That has ever happened.
- 7:53Speaker 4: She said they were twin flames, which I think twin
- 7:57Speaker 4: flames is fucking weird. And, you know, Megan Fox and
- 8:02Speaker 4: what is his name? Machine Gun Kelly, they're twin flames
- 8:06Speaker 4: who are also twin flames for the people that are
- 8:09Speaker 4: old school pop culture people. Billy Bob Thornton and Angelina Jolie.
- 8:14Speaker 4: They used to suck each other's blood and shit, too. Well,
- 8:17Speaker 4: they're not together. She's not together with Brad Pitt either.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Anyway. Also, there was a real weird documentary called Twin Flames.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Look it up.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Freaking insane. So they're twin flames. They're soulmates.
- 8:29Speaker 4: And she explains the theory of twin flames. When you're
- 8:32Speaker 4: a twin flame, there's a chaser and a rudder.
- 8:36Speaker 3: And she's the chaser, and.
- 8:38Speaker 4: He was the runner. He was always the runner. I'm like,
- 8:40Speaker 4: he was running when he was 400 pounds. Well, now
- 8:43Speaker 4: he's 200 pounds, and he's running up a hill hiking,
- 8:47Speaker 4: calling her and being like, hey, Mama Bear, hope you
- 8:50Speaker 4: get the great podcast going.
- 8:51Speaker 3: Anyone want to know about our divorce?
- 8:53Speaker 4: Check out my girl Bunny's podcast.
- 8:56Speaker 3: About our happy fucking divorce. Like, what? What? Okay? So
- 9:01Speaker 3: she's like, we.
- 9:04Speaker 4: Our love made us famous, which I was like, now
- 9:06Speaker 4: that's truthful. Now that is where I'm like, this is truthful.
- 9:10Speaker 3: You were famous. This really helped both of your careers.
- 9:15Speaker 4: This love affair, this unlikely pairing, this redemption couple. But
- 9:21Speaker 4: when you think about it, one is a sex worker
- 9:24Speaker 4: pretending to be interested in guys and taking their money,
- 9:28Speaker 4: which is fine, but still not the most honest career.
- 9:34Speaker 4: His was selling drugs, getting people hooked on drugs, you know, again,
- 9:37Speaker 4: doesn't do it anymore.
- 9:38Speaker 3: Not the most honest career.
- 9:40Speaker 4: And then we're supposed to believe that they're being honest
- 9:42Speaker 4: now about their marriage and divorce.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Only they know what the truth is.
- 9:49Speaker 4: I'm at this point, like, I don't even think they
- 9:52Speaker 4: had any kind of a romantic marriage life for the
- 9:57Speaker 4: last five years. That is my theory. That is what
- 10:01Speaker 4: I think. And you put it out there and I
- 10:03Speaker 4: can give you my opinion. You know, then she goes
- 10:07Speaker 4: on to say that she was always chasing him and
- 10:12Speaker 4: he was always running. And she finally was just like,
- 10:14Speaker 4: I'm not going to chase you anymore. And so she
- 10:15Speaker 4: kind of just stepped back. And then they got in
- 10:18Speaker 4: a fight and one day he just said, she said
- 10:21Speaker 4: the cardinal rule, which is fine, file for divorce. She's like,
- 10:25Speaker 4: we always said not to say it, even though he
- 10:27Speaker 4: said it all the time.
- 10:29Speaker 3: And I'm just like, girl, like if this is true
- 10:32Speaker 3: and you really loved this.
- 10:34Speaker 4: One time fucking fat fuck, okay, that cheated on you
- 10:39Speaker 4: and you did all this for his daughter and his life,
- 10:43Speaker 4: why is it that you guys are such great friends?
- 10:46Speaker 4: Maybe it really is that she sees the lemonade and
- 10:49Speaker 4: is like, good riddance. And then she said, and he
- 10:53Speaker 4: wasn't great in the marriage, but he's so great in
- 10:55Speaker 4: the divorce. He's giving me the entire Nashville compound where
- 10:58Speaker 4: I'm going to have my two girls that are on
- 11:00Speaker 4: the show. They each get a little house on the
- 11:03Speaker 4: on the property. We're going to film a reality show there.
- 11:06Speaker 4: I'm starting this whole media company. My stepdaughter, who's mad
- 11:09Speaker 4: at me today, is not going to be mad at
- 11:10Speaker 4: me tomorrow because I'm going to give her a podcast.
- 11:12Speaker 3: She just graduated from high school.
- 11:14Speaker 4: And now I'm getting my groove back and I'm going
- 11:17Speaker 4: to date and my girls are going to date.
- 11:20Speaker 3: And you know who's also going to date? My guy, Jay.
- 11:23Speaker 3: She calls him Jay. She's like, he's going to date. So, hey, hey, girls.
- 11:27Speaker 4: You want some Jelly Roll up in you? Go DM him.
- 11:31Speaker 4: Go DM him. His DMs are open and I'm going
- 11:34Speaker 4: to be the ex-wife, but I'm going to be more
- 11:36Speaker 4: than that because we're still having a baby together.
- 11:39Speaker 3: That's right.
- 11:40Speaker 4: We've had fertility issues, but we've got a nugget on
- 11:43Speaker 4: the way. I guess there's a surrogate somewhere walking around
- 11:45Speaker 4: with Jelly Roll and Bunny's baby who thought she, just
- 11:49Speaker 4: like the rest of us, were giving this child, carrying
- 11:51Speaker 4: this child for them. to give them the greatest, you know,
- 11:55Speaker 4: love story, finale, family that'll ride and die till the end.
- 12:00Speaker 3: You're my ride or die, you know, this and that.
- 12:02Speaker 4: Okay, no, now it's going to be, you know, they're
- 12:08Speaker 4: going to raise this child together and Jelly Roll's going
- 12:09Speaker 4: to come over and they all are going to be like, oh,
- 12:12Speaker 4: Jelly Roll's here and here's the cameras and here's the kid.
- 12:15Speaker 4: And oh my God, like it's the most unbiblical Christian
- 12:20Speaker 4: thing stuff I have ever heard of.
- 12:23Speaker 3: And I don't know. Like, I think a song, you're
- 12:28Speaker 3: nothing but a liar.
- 12:29Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 12:29Speaker 3: You know what, Jelly Roll? You're nothing but a liar.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Like, I'm over this.
- 12:33Speaker 3: I don't know. I still think She's a good podcaster, entertaining.
- 12:38Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm going to be honest.
- 12:40Speaker 4: It annoyed the shit out of me this whole fucking
- 12:43Speaker 4: week about the two of them getting married and divorced.
- 12:45Speaker 3: And I feel like we're all sold a bit of goods.
- 12:48Speaker 4: People are like, oh, I wonder if they're faking the
- 12:50Speaker 4: divorce to cover their assets and save whatever's coming, financial
- 12:55Speaker 4: ruin or lawsuits or whatever. I'm like, no, they're not
- 12:59Speaker 4: faking a divorce. They faked a fucking marriage.
- 13:01Speaker 3: That's what I think. I think they faked a marriage.
- 13:04Speaker 3: I think they are friends.
- 13:06Speaker 4: And very much fine to get rid of each other.
- 13:11Speaker 4: And he's very much fine to file for divorce right
- 13:13Speaker 4: before the 10 years, give her this property. And she
- 13:17Speaker 4: does very well on her own, but he, with his music,
- 13:22Speaker 4: I believe is the wealthier and has the potential of
- 13:24Speaker 4: that wealth growing and growing and growing exponentially more than hers.
- 13:29Speaker 4: So he's like, here, take the Nashville property.
- 13:32Speaker 3: It's not Southern California property.
- 13:34Speaker 4: I'm sure it's worth a lot, but it's not, you know, anyway,
- 13:37Speaker 4: and she's going to do just fine.
- 13:39Speaker 3: And she's like thrilled. Now she looks great. She has
- 13:42Speaker 3: a new facelift.
- 13:43Speaker 4: She's got, you know, the show, all these opportunities coming.
- 13:47Speaker 4: It all worked out just perfectly, but somehow TMZ got
- 13:51Speaker 4: hold of the filing.
- 13:53Speaker 3: How did that happen? How does, how did they, how
- 13:56Speaker 3: do they know this stuff? Oh, I don't know.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Jelly roll and bunny i don't know how harvey levin
- 14:03Speaker 4: found out that he filed for divorce when you're planning
- 14:06Speaker 4: this whole thing anyway they're best friends they're still soulmates
- 14:11Speaker 4: have fun dating jelly roll okay and being part of
- 14:14Speaker 4: this weirdness but he will have no trouble because he's
- 14:17Speaker 4: rich and they'll believe it and this is going to
- 14:20Speaker 4: be so pleasant and god bless this baby um You know,
- 14:26Speaker 4: I'm sure the baby will be loved, but it's fucking weird.
- 14:29Speaker 3: And I'm on this.
- 14:31Speaker 4: Earth to tell you that I think it is fucking
- 14:35Speaker 4: weird and annoying. And I feel like we were all
- 14:38Speaker 4: on this weird, you know, of cosplay, love, Christian redemption
- 14:46Speaker 4: story that was fed to us and whatever.
- 14:50Speaker 3: I'm this, I don't even know. I don't even want
- 14:52Speaker 3: to know the truth. That was it.
- 14:54Speaker 4: You're annoying as shit. Oh, and then he was like sick.
- 14:58Speaker 4: And then he wasn't sick. And if you were like, wait,
- 15:00Speaker 4: why is he showing photos from when he was in
- 15:02Speaker 4: the hospital before?
- 15:03Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 15:04Speaker 4: The guy was a drug dealer who had an open
- 15:07Speaker 4: marriage and cheated on his wife that did everything for him.
- 15:13Speaker 3: I still like his music. Anyway, Chris Jenner, it was
- 15:16Speaker 3: Father's Day.
- 15:17Speaker 4: And like a lot of reports, because it was a
- 15:19Speaker 4: little slow day on TMZ, of the posts that you
- 15:22Speaker 4: do about the father, okay?
- 15:24Speaker 3: The father in your life.
- 15:26Speaker 4: Do you post about your father, your dead father, your stepfather,
- 15:31Speaker 4: your baby daddy, your former husband, ex-husband?
- 15:34Speaker 3: Did you or didn't you?
- 15:35Speaker 4: Well, Kris Jenner did a nice post in which she
- 15:39Speaker 4: said to all the fathers, stepfathers, surrogate fathers, whatever, and
- 15:43Speaker 4: then they just basically put it all together and said
- 15:45Speaker 4: she pretty much toasted every man in the Kardashians' life
- 15:50Speaker 4: from Caitlyn Jenner to Rob Kardashian Sr.
- 15:54Speaker 2: To....
- 15:56Speaker 3: You know, all the baby daddies.
- 15:58Speaker 4: And the Kanye's and the ex-husbands and the Scott Disick's
- 16:01Speaker 4: and they all got their props. So thank you for that.
- 16:04Speaker 4: But then they're like, oh, Giselle, Russian, whatever, Giselle. She
- 16:09Speaker 4: didn't mention Tom Brady on Father's Day. He is not
- 16:13Speaker 4: her dad. OK, he's not her dad. And she has
- 16:16Speaker 4: a new baby with the karate instructor. And that's who
- 16:19Speaker 4: she wanted to toast. Nobody's obligated to toast the father
- 16:24Speaker 4: of their kid, even if you are. married to them
- 16:27Speaker 4: and everything's good. You don't have to post everything.
- 16:31Speaker 3: You know what? They're not interesting posts. They're not. I
- 16:33Speaker 3: didn't do one either. Peter's a great dad. I gave
- 16:36Speaker 3: him a nice card. We had a fun day. I
- 16:38Speaker 3: don't need to do it. My dad was a great dad.
- 16:42Speaker 3: He's in heaven. You've guys seen the post before. I
- 16:44Speaker 3: don't have to post every time.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Okay. One reward.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Endless choice.
- 16:48Speaker 4: Skip the hassle.
- 16:49Speaker 3: Reward the easy way.
- 17:14Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
- 17:17Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
- 17:20Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
- 17:24Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
- 17:27Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
- 17:30Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
- 17:33Speaker 2: filed against me. When your free will was about to
- 17:35Speaker 2: be taken from you, what would you do if it
- 17:37Speaker 2: was given back?
- 17:38Speaker 5: Where did that need come from, where you thought that
- 17:41Speaker 5: you had.
- 17:42Speaker 2: To succeed in order to feel loved? He said, I
- 17:44Speaker 2: have a work dad. I need a home dad. What
- 17:46Speaker 2: happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
- 17:48Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
- 17:53Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
- 17:56Speaker 5: happens next.
- 17:57Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all.
- 17:58Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dar,
- 18:02Speaker 2: I'm not going to pull punches.
- 18:03Speaker 3: You can use your voice even if it shakes.
- 18:05Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
- 18:09Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
- 18:19Speaker 4: I was also watching a new show called Million Dollar Nannies.
- 18:25Speaker 4: It's a pretty fake reality show, okay? Because as someone
- 18:29Speaker 4: who's watched reality shows for a while, I was like, oh,
- 18:33Speaker 4: these three fucking gross gay guys that are the three daddies,
- 18:37Speaker 4: I've seen them on like five different reality shows.
- 18:40Speaker 3: They're the clients.
- 18:41Speaker 4: So what they're doing is there's this girl who used
- 18:43Speaker 4: to work for the Kardashians, so good for her for
- 18:46Speaker 4: getting on a reality show. I hope the Kardashians are
- 18:50Speaker 4: getting some little taste of the some money and they
- 18:53Speaker 4: probably are because it's on Hulu, which their show is on.
- 18:56Speaker 4: She's like, I'm going to start a nanny service. It's
- 18:58Speaker 4: they filming an Ibiza for traveling, you know, nannies. Well,
- 19:02Speaker 4: of course, anybody that has real fucking money is not
- 19:05Speaker 4: going to put their kid on a reality show with.
- 19:08Speaker 3: Nannies and show their money to be on Hulu.
- 19:12Speaker 4: The people that are going to do that are maybe
- 19:14Speaker 4: they're rich, but they're thirsty people.
- 19:17Speaker 3: Okay.
- 19:18Speaker 4: And their whole thing is they're rich people that are
- 19:21Speaker 4: trying to be famous. And they put a lot on
- 19:23Speaker 4: social media about opening Chanel boxes and maybe their kid
- 19:27Speaker 4: got a Chanel purse. And then the producers found them
- 19:30Speaker 4: and it was like, Oh, why don't you come over
- 19:31Speaker 4: and be on, um, you know, million dollar nannies. And
- 19:34Speaker 4: they're like, so desperate to stop doing a regular job
- 19:38Speaker 4: that they're like, ah, this way I could be famous.
- 19:40Speaker 4: So there's, um, Then there's like a bunch of the
- 19:44Speaker 4: nanny people that were all cast as well.
- 19:46Speaker 3: And in one moment, the main girl who's like the one.
- 19:50Speaker 4: setting down the rules and everything, she says, um, yeah, I, uh,
- 19:56Speaker 4: I slept with a dad once.
- 19:57Speaker 3: What dad? The dad I was working for. I had
- 20:00Speaker 3: sex with him.
- 20:01Speaker 4: That's how the end of the first episode ends.
- 20:04Speaker 3: So I'm like, good job. Producers were intrigued. You're a
- 20:08Speaker 3: horrible person.
- 20:09Speaker 4: And then there's those three dads that are like tan, scary, injected.
- 20:18Speaker 4: It's an it's I saw them on Below Deck years ago,
- 20:21Speaker 4: and I think I've seen them on like three other
- 20:23Speaker 4: attempted reality show type things. All they want to do
- 20:27Speaker 4: is be famous. And so this one guy was married
- 20:30Speaker 4: to this old guy, Tom.
- 20:31Speaker 3: They got divorced. Then he got a new husband.
- 20:34Speaker 4: And then through surrogacy, they had twin boy, a twin twins,
- 20:38Speaker 4: boy and girl.
- 20:39Speaker 3: And the girl is, you know, nine and eats caviar.
- 20:43Speaker 4: And the boy is, you know, so they're precocious kids
- 20:47Speaker 4: and they are nine and they're on TV and they've
- 20:50Speaker 4: been on TV for years trying to get a reality show.
- 20:54Speaker 4: And so that's the kind of thing that we're dealing with.
- 20:56Speaker 4: It feels very fake.
- 21:00Speaker 3: So I don't know. It's kind of freaks. I don't
- 21:03Speaker 3: know if I'm going to continue with it, but.
- 21:05Speaker 4: Oh, and they found them on Nanny Talk. So basically
- 21:08Speaker 4: same thing as Mom Talk with the Mormons. They started
- 21:13Speaker 4: Nanny Talk, which, I mean, I can't imagine hiring a nanny.
- 21:16Speaker 4: And they're like, this is how I get by my NDA.
- 21:19Speaker 4: I mean, like, you're hiring a nanny for all that money,
- 21:22Speaker 4: and then, like, they're filming all day long while they're
- 21:26Speaker 4: taking care of your kid and putting the kid on camera.
- 21:29Speaker 3: I mean, my God.
- 21:31Speaker 4: Okay, the last thing I'm going to say is this
- 21:33Speaker 4: article came out saying that Roni Sy DeSilva from the
- 21:38Speaker 4: latest cast of The Real Housewives of New York is
- 21:41Speaker 4: filming with Carol Radswell. And as you know, Carol was
- 21:46Speaker 4: an original housewife. And when they were putting this cast together,
- 21:50Speaker 4: they kept a few people from the new cast, are
- 21:54Speaker 4: bringing in new people, and then they brought the OG
- 21:57Speaker 4: Carol in. Carol has been on Juicy Scoop many times.
- 22:00Speaker 4: I consider her a friend. you know, from the first
- 22:04Speaker 4: time she came on Juicy Scoop, I asked her about
- 22:07Speaker 4: the fact that there's a photo on her book that
- 22:10Speaker 4: was photo credit to Ghislaine Maxwell.
- 22:13Speaker 3: And I'm like, tell me that connection. This is like
- 22:16Speaker 3: six years ago.
- 22:17Speaker 4: She told the whole story on there that she met
- 22:20Speaker 4: this girl through, you know, parties and friends in New
- 22:23Speaker 4: York City. And that then when her husband died, she
- 22:28Speaker 4: was in London. And Ghislaine was like, oh, you're all
- 22:31Speaker 4: alone in London. She's like, yeah, I just didn't want
- 22:33Speaker 4: to be, you know, in New York during Christmas. You
- 22:36Speaker 4: should meet my friend, Prince Andrew. They go on a
- 22:40Speaker 4: date together. Nothing romantic happens, but they hang out. She
- 22:46Speaker 4: has told me many more things since then. But one
- 22:49Speaker 4: thing is she did not know that this woman was
- 22:52Speaker 4: involved in sex trafficking. Her story has never changed. It
- 22:56Speaker 4: was someone that she met at a party. We've met
- 22:58Speaker 4: people at parties. And then all of a sudden you're like,
- 23:01Speaker 4: oh my God, you know, not everyone knows, but there's
- 23:03Speaker 4: been times where you're like shocked that someone you know
- 23:06Speaker 4: is doing something horrible. So that her story has never changed.
- 23:09Speaker 4: They asked her to come back on New York Housewives.
- 23:12Speaker 4: And now the story is while they're filming, Cy is,
- 23:16Speaker 4: you know, asking and making her answer questions about the
- 23:20Speaker 4: connection to Epstein and the Epstein files. And I just
- 23:24Speaker 4: want to say, I like Carol and I thought it
- 23:28Speaker 4: was an interesting choice that they brought her back. And
- 23:32Speaker 4: I think this was completely calculated. This is why they
- 23:36Speaker 4: brought her back. They knew they had to have this
- 23:38Speaker 4: season pop or it was not going to live another season.
- 23:42Speaker 4: And they probably told Cy to bring it up.
- 23:46Speaker 3: And it's interesting. It's juicy. It's in the news.
- 23:49Speaker 4: It's horrible, but it's interesting who really has a tie
- 23:52Speaker 4: to this or not. And I think it was a
- 23:55Speaker 4: total setup. And I think they've done this before with
- 23:58Speaker 4: bringing back cast members of other shows.
- 24:01Speaker 3: So there you go.
- 24:02Speaker 1: All right.
- 24:03Speaker 4: Now I'm very excited to bring on a very fun
- 24:05Speaker 4: and juicy guest. We're going to get into Real Housewives
- 24:08Speaker 4: of Rhode Island from somewhat of an insider. Let's get
- 24:10Speaker 4: into it. Well, now I'm very excited to introduce you
- 24:13Speaker 4: to a first time guest on Juicy Scoop.
- 24:16Speaker 3: You may be familiar with him.
- 24:17Speaker 4: I discovered him on social media because I think his
- 24:20Speaker 4: takes are so funny.
- 24:22Speaker 3: Evan Lazarus.
- 24:24Speaker 2: I am so excited to be here.
- 24:26Speaker 3: Oh, good.
- 24:26Speaker 2: This is the best day of my whole life. Can
- 24:28Speaker 2: I say that? Goddamn. I love it.
- 24:30Speaker 3: First of all, I just want to say, I can't
- 24:32Speaker 3: believe we're wearing this same cuff bracelet. Mine's in gold
- 24:35Speaker 3: and yours.
- 24:35Speaker 2: Is in silver. And I had a feeling. I had
- 24:38Speaker 2: a sick feeling.
- 24:39Speaker 3: Oh my God, that's so crazy. And you liked my outfit.
- 24:43Speaker 3: I love your outfit.
- 24:43Speaker 4: And I wanted to put together an East Coast, Rhode Island, nautical,
- 24:48Speaker 4: classy look for you.
- 24:50Speaker 2: Girl, you did it. Thank you. That is nautical up
- 24:53Speaker 2: the wazoo. You know, that's a theme of my bar
- 24:55Speaker 2: mitzvah as well, was nautical.
- 24:57Speaker 3: I love that.
- 24:58Speaker 2: So cute.
- 25:00Speaker 4: So I discovered you because you were covering Bethany Frankel's
- 25:06Speaker 4: social media. And I, you know, one time talked very
- 25:12Speaker 4: honestly about Bethany Frankel. I didn't like that she was
- 25:15Speaker 4: going after... Younger, smaller creators.
- 25:18Speaker 2: Right.
- 25:19Speaker 3: Threatening to cease and desist and this and that. And
- 25:22Speaker 3: after that, I was blocked.
- 25:23Speaker 4: And I don't blame people for blocking people.
- 25:26Speaker 3: I have been known to do that as well.
- 25:28Speaker 2: Of course.
- 25:29Speaker 3: Because you're like, I don't need you to keep coming
- 25:31Speaker 3: at me if you're going to. So I totally get it.
- 25:33Speaker 4: I also am not a sneaky person where I then
- 25:38Speaker 4: got a other account. And so I don't get to
- 25:42Speaker 4: see her stuff unless somebody else recaptures it or does it.
- 25:46Speaker 4: Though I've always found her extremely entertaining and fascinating. So
- 25:50Speaker 4: for you, you basically would started to just cover her
- 25:55Speaker 4: TikToks and explain them in like a cliff note recap version.
- 26:00Speaker 4: And it's such a unique, funny way. So how did
- 26:02Speaker 4: you even come about that? Because that's kind of how
- 26:05Speaker 4: you really popped. Yeah.
- 26:06Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's the first four way I had
- 26:08Speaker 2: into like a viral content. It started because I truly was,
- 26:13Speaker 2: I mean, as we all are so deeply captivated by
- 26:15Speaker 2: her presence and she was posting tremendous amounts. And I
- 26:19Speaker 2: remember just like taking this three minute Uber with my friends.
- 26:22Speaker 2: And I just, I said, maybe the whole Uber, just
- 26:24Speaker 2: like recapping every video. It's top of mind to the
- 26:28Speaker 2: point they asked me to never do it again. I
- 26:30Speaker 2: was like, well, guess what? The internet doesn't mind. So
- 26:33Speaker 2: I tried it out online. I was like, cause, I
- 26:36Speaker 2: just was like, I just posted like 14 different random.
- 26:39Speaker 2: I was like, I'll do the Bethany method. I'll post
- 26:40Speaker 2: 14 random things, see what happens today. Yeah. And that
- 26:43Speaker 2: was a format I just like tried out because I've
- 26:45Speaker 2: always been so uniquely captivated by her because she has
- 26:50Speaker 2: some of the most, but she is a completely talented woman,
- 26:54Speaker 2: a woman. But in the same regard, there's these like
- 26:59Speaker 2: great discrepancies in her character that I just find so compelling.
- 27:02Speaker 3: Like what? Explain a little bit. Of course.
- 27:04Speaker 2: So if our viewers are not familiar with Bethany so much,
- 27:08Speaker 2: she is, of course, Roni, former cast member, but she
- 27:11Speaker 2: has kind of deeply distanced herself from even like living
- 27:15Speaker 2: people at this point. And she's like still has COVID brain.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Like she is still she I think she isolated her
- 27:22Speaker 2: so deeply during COVID that she hasn't like completely socialized.
- 27:28Speaker 2: So she has a hard time, like, reappropriating with people.
- 27:30Speaker 2: And she just, like, constantly is putting herself in, like,
- 27:32Speaker 2: awkward situations.
- 27:35Speaker 4: I mean, my favorite Bethany moment, now that you brought
- 27:40Speaker 4: it up, is when she brought the old makeup.
- 27:42Speaker 3: To the TJ Maxx. Oh, my God. The old, already open,
- 27:46Speaker 3: used makeup.
- 27:47Speaker 4: She cleaned out her makeup drawers and thought she was doing,
- 27:50Speaker 4: you know, a charitable thing by giving old, used, open
- 27:56Speaker 4: makeup to a girl working behind the counter at tj
- 27:59Speaker 4: maxx and when they said no she then did a
- 28:03Speaker 4: video like can you believe this ungrateful piece of poo
- 28:05Speaker 4: this is incredible makeup and it just was i think
- 28:10Speaker 4: that's one of the the moments that you go down
- 28:12Speaker 4: in bethany history when you when you're in the documentary
- 28:16Speaker 4: clearly that's got to be the one because it just
- 28:19Speaker 4: is like how did you think And also then after that,
- 28:25Speaker 4: like if I did something that dumb, which I've done,
- 28:27Speaker 4: you know, in my life, like that you because I
- 28:30Speaker 4: do think she can be very funny to not just go, oh,
- 28:33Speaker 4: my God, I can't believe I did such an asinine thing.
- 28:36Speaker 3: You're right.
- 28:36Speaker 4: No one wants to use to make up. Obviously, they
- 28:39Speaker 4: can't take it. They're working there.
- 28:41Speaker 3: Instead, if you really love the girl working at TJ
- 28:44Speaker 3: Maxx so much. give her a gift card to TJ
- 28:47Speaker 3: Maxx for a hundred bucks and just go, here you go.
- 28:50Speaker 3: Like have fun when you have a day off or whatever.
- 28:53Speaker 4: Like it just was so, and the chicken salad, I mean,
- 28:57Speaker 4: I think the chicken salad is what popped off.
- 28:59Speaker 3: Can you explain the chicken salad?
- 29:01Speaker 2: Of course. So there's been this like traditional American recipe for,
- 29:04Speaker 2: I would say hundreds of years now, but in her mind,
- 29:07Speaker 2: she's kind of created it and reformatting the structure constantly.
- 29:11Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 29:12Speaker 2: Uh, one time she had a cumin in it and
- 29:14Speaker 2: she said it was like a It was an act
- 29:18Speaker 2: worse than death. It's so cool for her to take
- 29:24Speaker 2: ownership of something that no one's ever asked her to.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 29:26Speaker 2: It's like Dave Portnoy with the one bite method where
- 29:29Speaker 2: it's like, I guess we can have this random Jewish
- 29:31Speaker 2: man screaming around town and talking about pizza. But it's like,
- 29:33Speaker 2: what does he know about pizza? What does she know
- 29:35Speaker 2: about chicken salad?
- 29:36Speaker 3: And what's so great is that like in this world,
- 29:40Speaker 3: you can do that.
- 29:41Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:42Speaker 3: And people can stop.
- 29:43Speaker 4: Following you or they can make a career out of
- 29:46Speaker 4: talking about you. You put it out there and people
- 29:49Speaker 4: can take what they want out of it.
- 29:51Speaker 3: And, you know, It is fascinating.
- 29:54Speaker 2: Well, she hasn't liked a chicken salad in, I would say,
- 29:56Speaker 2: about two years at this point either.
- 29:57Speaker 3: She hasn't talked about it.
- 29:58Speaker 2: Well, she talks about it, but she does not like
- 30:00Speaker 2: any of them. She keeps trying them and being like, oh,
- 30:02Speaker 2: this one's terrible.
- 30:03Speaker 3: But she did like the one at the cute store
- 30:06Speaker 3: in Montauk, right?
- 30:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:07Speaker 3: And then she got mad that they— What?
- 30:10Speaker 2: She compares everything to that.
- 30:12Speaker 4: But then she got mad because she showed up there
- 30:14Speaker 4: and they weren't as excited to see her. And she
- 30:17Speaker 4: was like, You wouldn't have survived this year without me
- 30:21Speaker 4: promoting your chicken salad, even though the store had been
- 30:23Speaker 4: there for like decades.
- 30:24Speaker 2: I think it's Round Swamp, I believe.
- 30:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Was the store.
- 30:27Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 30:28Speaker 2: It's like it's by the way, it's like it's a
- 30:30Speaker 2: madhouse in that place. It's about, I would say, 150
- 30:33Speaker 2: square feet total.
- 30:34Speaker 3: I've been there. Yeah.
- 30:34Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
- 30:35Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:36Speaker 2: It's one person per square foot. I've never been in
- 30:37Speaker 2: a situation like this before. It's like they never needed her.
- 30:40Speaker 2: Round Swamp to survive the summer. No, girl, they don't.
- 30:45Speaker 2: And they didn't like roll out a red carpet for
- 30:46Speaker 2: her and she tried to like condemn the business.
- 30:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:48Speaker 2: It's like you're actually not part of the New York government.
- 30:50Speaker 2: You can't like go in there and close it down.
- 30:53Speaker 4: Why do you think that she does post so much
- 30:56Speaker 4: and deletes? Because I have to say, I am like fascinated,
- 31:00Speaker 4: you know, how much she could get done in a
- 31:03Speaker 4: day and how she never wants to put down her phone.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Like to me, it always does still feel like work.
- 31:11Speaker 4: And so when I do go on vacation to work,
- 31:13Speaker 4: just go, let me put away for three hours or
- 31:16Speaker 4: even lately I've, I've been kind of, I don't do
- 31:19Speaker 4: the stories like I used to because I want to just,
- 31:21Speaker 4: or I film it and then maybe I put in
- 31:24Speaker 4: stories later because I don't want people to know where
- 31:26Speaker 4: I am and things like that.
- 31:27Speaker 3: And I just want to like, I mean, I guess she.
- 31:30Speaker 4: Just must love this, this level of fame and people
- 31:36Speaker 4: watching her 24 seven.
- 31:37Speaker 2: Right. I think she wants, like, a Kim Kardashian ring moment. Like,
- 31:40Speaker 2: she wants someone to rob her for her headline. No,
- 31:43Speaker 2: but I agree with you. Like, that's why everyone else
- 31:47Speaker 2: puts their location out there. It's like, well, she invites
- 31:50Speaker 2: chaos into her life continually. And I think it's just
- 31:52Speaker 2: her primary relationship is her phone.
- 31:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Like, even above her daughter at some points.
- 31:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 31:58Speaker 2: I mean, she now has a boyfriend.
- 32:00Speaker 3: Who, like— The Gary Busey lookalike.
- 32:02Speaker 5: Literally.
- 32:03Speaker 2: And he's acting like him, too, I'll tell you. He's
- 32:05Speaker 2: running around town, I hear, with other girls. If you
- 32:08Speaker 2: can even imagine. Well, yes, we can imagine.
- 32:11Speaker 3: Yes. And so when when did you get involved? Was
- 32:14Speaker 3: it when you were still with the boyfriend, Paul?
- 32:16Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question. I think it was March 2025.
- 32:21Speaker 4: And has and then how soon did she block you?
- 32:24Speaker 2: Oh, two weeks.
- 32:28Speaker 4: Has she ever have you ever been in the same
- 32:30Speaker 4: vicinity with her? And what would you do if you had?
- 32:34Speaker 2: Uh, it's a great question. We've been in New York
- 32:36Speaker 2: at the same time constantly. I always like trying to
- 32:39Speaker 2: like stage a run in. I was in the Virgin
- 32:43Speaker 2: Islands this year and then she was like, last minute
- 32:45Speaker 2: trip to the Virgin Islands. I was like, no, by
- 32:49Speaker 2: the way, no, it's like a very late. There's not
- 32:51Speaker 2: that many people over there. It's amazing for her to
- 32:52Speaker 2: come on down.
- 32:53Speaker 4: I had, um, I had someone on, uh, tell me
- 32:58Speaker 4: or someone tell me that they were dying because, um,
- 33:03Speaker 4: their friends were in St.
- 33:06Speaker 3: Barts or something.
- 33:07Speaker 4: And they're like, oh my God, we were just like
- 33:10Speaker 4: accosted by this older woman who was giving us life
- 33:14Speaker 4: and business advice and would not stop talking to us.
- 33:17Speaker 4: And they sent this person the photo and it was Bethany, like,
- 33:23Speaker 4: you know, at the end of the day from a
- 33:26Speaker 4: beach day at one of those Nikki beach type places
- 33:29Speaker 4: and just being like, i was like oh my god
- 33:33Speaker 4: that's so funny like no this is great advice.
- 33:36Speaker 3: What do you want from me you know you know you.
- 33:38Speaker 4: Meet the ceo of a company and you don't take
- 33:40Speaker 4: advantage of it that's what's wrong with this generation like
- 33:42Speaker 4: it's just you know and how she's like i'm the
- 33:45Speaker 4: uh what would she call herself i'm the unexpected influencer
- 33:48Speaker 4: or something yeah.
- 33:50Speaker 3: Um i didn't mean to be but i made it
- 33:52Speaker 3: and then like she calls herself a lot of things
- 33:54Speaker 3: and then when um when people started to discover that
- 33:59Speaker 3: like these things were very deliberate because she was getting
- 34:03Speaker 3: trademarks and stuff like that. And, but it's like, who cares? Like,
- 34:08Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying.
- 34:08Speaker 2: I know.
- 34:09Speaker 3: Nobody cares. That's fine. That's fine.
- 34:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:13Speaker 4: What do you think about, how does she feel now about,
- 34:16Speaker 4: you know, the reality reckoning that just really went nowhere?
- 34:22Speaker 3: The reality reckoning did not.
- 34:25Speaker 2: It's a good question.
- 34:27Speaker 3: It's just like she moves on.
- 34:28Speaker 2: She moves on. She thinks she's, well, because of the
- 34:31Speaker 2: Bethany Clause, which she did for reality TV, she thinks
- 34:34Speaker 2: that like everyone now owes her that's ever been on
- 34:37Speaker 2: reality TV since because she's like completely changed the landscape
- 34:41Speaker 2: and no one acknowledges it. And like she did. She
- 34:43Speaker 2: did do something significant with the Bethany Clause. But it's like,
- 34:49Speaker 2: but also why of you, she also hates reality TV now. Right.
- 34:55Speaker 2: Like often talks about how she would never do a
- 34:56Speaker 2: show again. how she likes having all the control and
- 34:59Speaker 2: the full edit. And to me, it's interesting to watch
- 35:03Speaker 2: a woman who's actually created something even crazier than a
- 35:05Speaker 2: reality show, like go after the media that made her
- 35:09Speaker 2: famous to begin with.
- 35:10Speaker 3: Right. I totally, I have a prediction.
- 35:13Speaker 2: Oh, please.
- 35:14Speaker 4: I think she will be back on reality TV because
- 35:18Speaker 4: this will, she'll get bored of this just like she
- 35:20Speaker 4: got bored of reality TV.
- 35:21Speaker 3: She'll get bored of.
- 35:22Speaker 4: This and decide, you know what? I would like to
- 35:26Speaker 4: put the phone down and I'd like somebody else to
- 35:28Speaker 4: do it.
- 35:28Speaker 2: Well, her platform isn't performing as well as it once was. Like,
- 35:31Speaker 2: even a year ago today. Like, I think it's, like,
- 35:33Speaker 2: we're looking at, like, half the number she was getting
- 35:35Speaker 2: a year ago. Interesting. I just think people are, like,
- 35:37Speaker 2: fed up and it's, and online can be so generative continuously. Yeah.
- 35:42Speaker 2: Where you're able to, she is parasocial with a lot
- 35:46Speaker 2: of people, but there's, it's still, like, the numbers aren't
- 35:48Speaker 2: there as there once was. Reality TV, everything is like
- 35:51Speaker 2: a pendulum. It will fling back to that. She'll, like,
- 35:54Speaker 2: want the, she won't want like these like videos that
- 35:58Speaker 2: are getting 1000 likes that she posts 12 of a day.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Like that will kill a woman at one point.
- 36:02Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 36:02Speaker 3: Why do you think she deletes so much?
- 36:04Speaker 4: What's the philosophy behind posting something and deleting? Is it
- 36:08Speaker 4: because right away they don't get the numbers and so
- 36:10Speaker 4: she doesn't want that on her grid or.
- 36:11Speaker 2: What is it? I think the vanity metric that she
- 36:14Speaker 2: feels well, cause, and also when you're posting numbers that
- 36:17Speaker 2: she's posting on, it's like, Oh, you can delete some. Yeah. I,
- 36:21Speaker 2: at that point it's like, But she does post, like,
- 36:23Speaker 2: deleted videos are some of the funniest ones we have
- 36:25Speaker 2: in the archive. It is hell.
- 36:29Speaker 3: Well, I, you know, I knew her many years ago.
- 36:32Speaker 4: We've spent time together one-on-one personally many years ago. And
- 36:36Speaker 4: I do think she's really talented and smart. And I
- 36:41Speaker 4: do think she's fascinating. And she's so fun to watch
- 36:44Speaker 4: on TV. And her body was banging at the.
- 36:48Speaker 3: Oh, my God. She looks fantastic. She has a great body.
- 36:51Speaker 5: So.
- 36:51Speaker 2: But she did say, she's like, I don't diet. I've
- 36:53Speaker 2: never dieted in a day of my life. And it's like, well,
- 36:55Speaker 2: you've actually written two books on this stuff. So I
- 36:57Speaker 2: love that about her.
- 36:58Speaker 3: Yeah, that she never dieted. And I read her first book.
- 37:01Speaker 2: I naturally did.
- 37:02Speaker 3: But that's the other thing. She's like, I'm the one
- 37:04Speaker 3: who created food noise.
- 37:05Speaker 4: So now that people are on Ozempic and say they
- 37:06Speaker 4: don't hear the food noise anymore.
- 37:09Speaker 3: And definitely she had eating disorders and stuff.
- 37:12Speaker 2: Of course, yeah.
- 37:13Speaker 3: It's in the book, you know. But whatever worked, it
- 37:17Speaker 3: still is working.
- 37:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.
- 37:18Speaker 3: Because the body's banging. So good for her. The body's banging.
- 37:21Speaker 3: Good for her. Um, I love that you, so you're
- 37:25Speaker 3: from Rhode Island.
- 37:26Speaker 2: I'm from New York, but, and that's kind of like
- 37:28Speaker 2: also a reason I love Bethany or it's like even
- 37:30Speaker 2: before I, I'm like, I've always, I watched roadie, but
- 37:33Speaker 2: like I really got into it more recently, but Bethany
- 37:37Speaker 2: has always been like an omni present figure in the
- 37:39Speaker 2: New York area.
- 37:40Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 37:41Speaker 2: Everyone's always known as skinny girl. Like everyone's always been
- 37:44Speaker 2: captivated by her. And I think specifically probably in New
- 37:47Speaker 2: York because she like is like She's kind of like
- 37:51Speaker 2: the quintessential like hustler businesswoman. Right.
- 37:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:55Speaker 2: And I'm going to her dad's racetrack on Saturday. And
- 37:58Speaker 2: that's the stepdad. Oh, no. Her father. Because growing up,
- 38:04Speaker 2: she would go to the racetrack with her father in Queens.
- 38:06Speaker 3: Okay.
- 38:07Speaker 4: So there's a dad that was in the racetrack. And
- 38:09Speaker 4: then there's a stepdad that did racetrack stuff.
- 38:11Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually all did racetracks.
- 38:13Speaker 3: Okay. But one is past and one is alive.
- 38:15Speaker 2: Yeah, the stepdad is still alive, but they barely, I mean,
- 38:19Speaker 2: I think the last time they probably were on Roney,
- 38:21Speaker 2: which was a while ago. And then the father died,
- 38:25Speaker 2: but she was like always, I've always heard stories where
- 38:28Speaker 2: she was like being like pimped out at 12 years
- 38:30Speaker 2: old at the racetrack. I'm going there on Saturday because
- 38:33Speaker 2: it's closing down forever.
- 38:34Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
- 38:35Speaker 2: But I'll be doing some investigation while I'm there. Okay.
- 38:38Speaker 3: Interesting.
- 38:40Speaker 4: So let's talk about Real Housewives of Rhode Island, which
- 38:43Speaker 4: the first.
- 38:45Speaker 3: Episode of the reunion aired. I'm caught up.
- 38:49Speaker 4: And it is very shocking because there is an active
- 38:56Speaker 4: cheating relationship.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 38:59Speaker 3: That is happening. And you're like, how did these people
- 39:05Speaker 3: that are wealthy.
- 39:07Speaker 4: The characters I'm talking about is this girl, Ruella, and she's.
- 39:14Speaker 3: A financial advisor. So she has her own clients and
- 39:16Speaker 3: her own money.
- 39:17Speaker 4: And she's married to a podiatrist who has his business
- 39:20Speaker 4: and practices. And he was having an affair with this
- 39:24Speaker 4: woman for a couple years in which the other cast
- 39:28Speaker 4: member said, Joellen.
- 39:29Speaker 3: How do you say her name?
- 39:30Speaker 2: Joellen.
- 39:31Speaker 3: Joellen. Okay, someone said I was saying it wrong.
- 39:33Speaker 2: There's so many different, there are like interesting, unique names.
- 39:36Speaker 2: They're meant to like trick you up, which is fine.
- 39:38Speaker 4: Joellen reveals it to her and the group that she,
- 39:42Speaker 4: there's videos out of this person.
- 39:44Speaker 3: It's on Facebook.
- 39:45Speaker 4: The mistress is posting a photo on her own Facebook
- 39:48Speaker 4: of her sitting on.
- 39:49Speaker 2: She's posting to Grid. Truly crazy.
- 39:52Speaker 3: It's not even a story. It's a forever place.
- 39:56Speaker 2: She's posting to Grid riding someone's husband.
- 39:58Speaker 3: It's like sitting on his lap.
- 40:00Speaker 4: And then Ruella then, which again, this is, you know,
- 40:07Speaker 4: housewife one-on-one takes it to not be mad at her
- 40:11Speaker 4: cheating husband, but to then go, you are trying to
- 40:15Speaker 4: upset my life and you're an awful person. And so
- 40:18Speaker 4: then they, according to Joellen set out to get her
- 40:21Speaker 4: fired in the medical field. Cause she like sells medical supplies.
- 40:25Speaker 4: And then, And eventually she did get laid off. And
- 40:29Speaker 4: she's just like, you wanted to know the truth. Like,
- 40:32Speaker 4: what am I not going to be a good friend?
- 40:33Speaker 3: I told you. And of course it's going to be
- 40:35Speaker 3: on the show.
- 40:36Speaker 4: We're filming the show while your husband's having an active affair.
- 40:39Speaker 4: And so we watched the whole thing and they kind
- 40:45Speaker 4: of were like, okay. And then they all go on
- 40:46Speaker 4: this trip together. So you're with this guy who's actively
- 40:49Speaker 4: cheating on this woman. And both of them tried to
- 40:51Speaker 4: like ruin your life, but you're like, well, let's, you know,
- 40:55Speaker 4: move on.
- 40:56Speaker 3: And they go to the reunion and Ruella, she got
- 41:01Speaker 3: a new nose.
- 41:02Speaker 2: Oh my God.
- 41:03Speaker 3: And some people.
- 41:04Speaker 2: Feel it's a little.
- 41:05Speaker 3: It's what?
- 41:06Speaker 2: Not a new husband.
- 41:07Speaker 3: Not a new husband, but she got a new nose
- 41:09Speaker 3: and a new, um, and some people feel it's a
- 41:11Speaker 3: little sharp. I feel like it looks better. Who cares?
- 41:17Speaker 2: Well, also you can't touch the nose in the first
- 41:18Speaker 2: 16 months.
- 41:20Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 41:20Speaker 4: The nose is going to settle down. Um, I remember
- 41:24Speaker 4: when in New Jersey, what's her name? Jennifer Aiden. She
- 41:28Speaker 4: got a new nose, but she didn't go to her
- 41:30Speaker 4: own husband, plastic surgeon, who was also rumored to.
- 41:33Speaker 3: Be cheating on her in the past. But anyway, she
- 41:38Speaker 3: looks fine. I don't know.
- 41:40Speaker 4: So then she says they do like a little, you know,
- 41:44Speaker 4: get the cameras up because she felt that someone might
- 41:49Speaker 4: have been tracking her car. So she takes it to
- 41:51Speaker 4: the dealership and she goes, Can you just search my
- 41:54Speaker 4: car and see if there's a tracker? And I guess
- 41:55Speaker 4: in the state of Rhode Island, they're like, we can't.
- 41:57Speaker 4: If you think that, go to the police. They go
- 42:00Speaker 4: to it. That is considered a crime. And if the
- 42:02Speaker 4: person is your husband, that's considered domestic violence. So they
- 42:06Speaker 4: immediately arrest him, whether she wanted him arrested or not.
- 42:10Speaker 4: That's not how the law works. So he gets arrested.
- 42:12Speaker 4: The mistress goes and picks him up out of the prison.
- 42:17Speaker 4: And she's just like, well... I don't know what we're
- 42:20Speaker 4: going to do about this. Why was he tracking you?
- 42:24Speaker 4: And she's like, first I thought he was tracking her
- 42:27Speaker 4: because he thought she was cheating. But no, what makes
- 42:29Speaker 4: more sense is he was tracking her so he would
- 42:31Speaker 4: know if she was on her way home, if the
- 42:35Speaker 4: mistress was there, if she was going to stop by
- 42:37Speaker 4: with bagels at the podiatrist's office while he was banging
- 42:41Speaker 4: her probably in one of the examining rooms, if she
- 42:45Speaker 4: was doing drive-bys on the mistress's house. And all this
- 42:49Speaker 4: on the show. Now, many housewives go on the show
- 42:53Speaker 4: as a precursor to get divorced.
- 42:56Speaker 2: Right.
- 42:58Speaker 4: But right now, she's still in anger mode, blaming Joellen
- 43:01Speaker 4: for all of her problems.
- 43:04Speaker 2: The cognitive dissonance that we can evoke with that, it's
- 43:08Speaker 2: so ridiculous. I mean, Joellen, I think it's interesting because
- 43:11Speaker 2: she started a season being like, I'm an absolute bitch. Like,
- 43:14Speaker 2: everyone hates me. I'm cruel. I'm mean. I'm crazy. And
- 43:17Speaker 2: all she's done this season is, like, deliver not harsh truths,
- 43:20Speaker 2: realities to Rula, telling her the exact business she needs
- 43:24Speaker 2: to know. And Rula keeps seeing photos of her husband
- 43:28Speaker 2: riding another woman. And then she goes, oh, that's AI.
- 43:31Speaker 2: It's like, girl, it's not AI. There's a tag on it.
- 43:34Speaker 3: And she's like, well, I have his schedule. So he
- 43:37Speaker 3: was in surgery. It doesn't matter. He even admitted to
- 43:41Speaker 3: another guy, yeah, I fucked up. I've cheated.
- 43:43Speaker 2: Well, he keeps telling Rula I've cheated, but it's like,
- 43:45Speaker 2: it's in the past. And it's like, well, we're in
- 43:47Speaker 2: the past, I guess, because she's at our front door
- 43:49Speaker 2: right now. I'm picking you up.
- 43:52Speaker 3: Now, you told me you even had a little.
- 43:54Speaker 2: Yes.
- 43:55Speaker 3: Tell me about that.
- 43:56Speaker 2: So I posted a theory where I did deductive reasoning
- 44:00Speaker 2: to definitively point out that Rula's husband was the one
- 44:03Speaker 2: cheating on her because Beth, the alleged mistress, she... posted
- 44:09Speaker 2: a photo like being like me, my doctor. And I
- 44:12Speaker 2: broke down the numbers from like, there's 7,000 doctors in
- 44:14Speaker 2: Rhode Island. There's 4,000 active practicing. And I went all
- 44:18Speaker 2: the way down based off even the kind of iPhone
- 44:20Speaker 2: he has because there's a specific medical system. Anyway, I
- 44:24Speaker 2: broke it all the way down to one by like
- 44:26Speaker 2: just like deductive reasoning and the powers of observation. And
- 44:30Speaker 2: because of that video, people were like, oh, the mistress
- 44:34Speaker 2: is out, the mistress is out. And I go to
- 44:36Speaker 2: Instagram and she's already following me. So we've been into
- 44:39Speaker 2: DMs and she, well, she does have an NDA, so
- 44:42Speaker 2: she can't say too much, but she is always like,
- 44:44Speaker 2: they're trying to silence me over at Bravo. I want
- 44:47Speaker 2: my voice out there. I want my story out there.
- 44:48Speaker 2: My side is like, it's, you haven't heard my side yet. And, like,
- 44:52Speaker 2: she can't even say her side, but it's fun for
- 44:53Speaker 2: her to be threatening her side.
- 44:55Speaker 4: So when in the affair did he then present her
- 45:01Speaker 4: with a non-disclosure, don't talk about our fucking NDA? When
- 45:07Speaker 4: do you present that?
- 45:08Speaker 2: Before the boning?
- 45:10Speaker 3: During the boning? Right before they decide to sign with Bravo?
- 45:15Speaker 3: Do you have any clue?
- 45:16Speaker 2: I'm thinking right before Bravo.
- 45:18Speaker 3: And how long in just your.
- 45:21Speaker 4: deductive reasoning right do you think he's been seeing this woman.
- 45:27Speaker 2: It's upwards of two years i believe i'm sure it's
- 45:30Speaker 2: been going on for a.
- 45:31Speaker 3: While and rula and he have kids together.
- 45:34Speaker 2: Yeah rula and him have two children together and that's
- 45:37Speaker 2: like the reason she keeps arguing they stay together it's
- 45:39Speaker 2: to keep the family intact because he has an italian
- 45:42Speaker 2: background and she has a persian background and for both
- 45:44Speaker 2: of them it's important to have family like stuck together.
- 45:48Speaker 4: So because we've seen the photo, I think they put
- 45:51Speaker 4: the photo on the show. She's a blonde woman, looks
- 45:55Speaker 4: to be similar in age to them. Now, do you
- 46:01Speaker 4: think she's dying to get on the show?
- 46:02Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. I think there's only so much you can
- 46:06Speaker 2: do in the state of Rhode Island. Can you think
- 46:10Speaker 2: of a larger career opportunity that's hit the island since?
- 46:14Speaker 3: For women that don't have careers or do have careers.
- 46:17Speaker 4: A lot of these women that go on Housewives, like Rula,
- 46:21Speaker 4: the financial advisor, like Emily Simpson, who does have her
- 46:24Speaker 4: law degree.
- 46:25Speaker 3: People are like, why would they be doing this? And
- 46:27Speaker 3: I'm like, because it's more fun and.
- 46:30Speaker 4: Easier than being a lawyer, a doctor, a financial advisor.
- 46:35Speaker 4: Like those are hard, real jobs. Drinking and yelling that
- 46:41Speaker 4: someone's a slut. Or a slam pig. Or talking about
- 46:45Speaker 4: pizza squares.
- 46:47Speaker 3: All that is way easier.
- 46:50Speaker 2: Well, attention is like... The attention economy and even like
- 46:53Speaker 2: having attention on you is like... It can be more
- 46:56Speaker 2: alluring than money even is as well.
- 46:58Speaker 3: I mean, I've always said fame is one of the
- 47:00Speaker 3: strongest addictions.
- 47:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 47:01Speaker 3: Like probably.
- 47:04Speaker 4: Right after alcohol, like the main addiction in the world.
- 47:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 47:08Speaker 4: Especially because you see it and you're like, wow, you know.
- 47:12Speaker 4: I remember one time I asked Dr. Drew Pinsky, I
- 47:16Speaker 4: was like, I love back cracking, watching back cracking videos,
- 47:20Speaker 4: cracking my own backs. Like I'm like, could that ever
- 47:23Speaker 4: be addiction? And I was kind of joking, kind of not.
- 47:26Speaker 4: And he goes, well, would you, you know, give up
- 47:28Speaker 4: your family for it? Would you risk this, that, you know?
- 47:32Speaker 3: And I'm like, no.
- 47:33Speaker 4: But when I think about fame, I'm like, yes, these
- 47:37Speaker 4: women will risk their relationship with their children, their mother,
- 47:43Speaker 4: because that's their storyline, that their mother sucked. So now
- 47:46Speaker 4: they're going to reveal that their 65-year-old mother was like
- 47:49Speaker 4: a horrible mother when they were a teenager. They'll risk
- 47:51Speaker 4: that relationship. Obviously, their marriage, they'll risk that relationship. So
- 47:57Speaker 4: in many cases, it's just so rare that a housewife
- 48:00Speaker 4: will go, I'm actually going to step back because I
- 48:04Speaker 4: don't think this is good for my family.
- 48:06Speaker 3: I don't think there's ever been one case. Has there
- 48:09Speaker 3: ever been one.
- 48:09Speaker 4: Case of a housewife that did a selfless act and
- 48:13Speaker 4: left the show for the sake of her, for the
- 48:17Speaker 4: sake of the family?
- 48:18Speaker 2: I was like, for a spinoff.
- 48:19Speaker 4: No, but I think that's because they know how to
- 48:22Speaker 4: pick really selfish, narcissistic women, you know, they don't. And
- 48:28Speaker 4: if you are like pleasant, I've said, then you're a
- 48:30Speaker 4: one hit wonder because you were too nice and normal.
- 48:33Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, if you leave for your family, they would
- 48:35Speaker 2: never acknowledge that. Like they're going to give you a
- 48:37Speaker 2: crazy reason on the show.
- 48:38Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 48:40Speaker 3: They were threatened by some other, some other woman.
- 48:44Speaker 4: Now going through the cast, how do you think about Ashley? I,
- 48:47Speaker 4: she's our youngest girl from the bachelor and really didn't
- 48:51Speaker 4: have much going on.
- 48:53Speaker 3: I think she's the.
- 48:53Speaker 2: Kelsey's 31, and I don't know how old Ashley is.
- 48:57Speaker 3: I mean, it's a weird group.
- 48:58Speaker 5: It is.
- 48:58Speaker 4: Because it is true that you would not be hanging
- 49:02Speaker 4: out with this young couple on a trip. Like, Rula
- 49:07Speaker 4: and her cheating podiatrist husband would not be hanging out
- 49:10Speaker 4: with Ashley and her cute husband with the coffee shop,
- 49:14Speaker 4: and they were both on The Bachelor, and they're two babies.
- 49:17Speaker 3: Like, that's just... And, of course, Lizzie.
- 49:20Speaker 4: who is now a grandmother, would not be hanging out
- 49:23Speaker 4: with these No, not at all.
- 49:26Speaker 3: You know, like it just especially not.
- 49:28Speaker 4: So it's not that it's really feels like a weird cast,
- 49:31Speaker 4: but it's working.
- 49:32Speaker 3: So who cares?
- 49:33Speaker 2: No, it's true. I think like since Mattel moved their
- 49:35Speaker 2: headquarters out of Providence or like they're doing whatever they
- 49:38Speaker 2: can to stay afloat in that state.
- 49:40Speaker 4: I had no idea that Rhode Island was so like
- 49:44Speaker 4: super wealthy, generational wealthy.
- 49:46Speaker 3: I mean, Liz's house on the water. My God.
- 49:50Speaker 2: Oh, it's gorgeous. Yeah. Yeah. There's some incredible properties there.
- 49:53Speaker 2: In Rhode Island. It's a weird state because it doesn't
- 49:57Speaker 2: generate a ton of wealth currently, but it's placed between
- 50:02Speaker 2: some of the wealthiest places in the whole country, and
- 50:04Speaker 2: it has generational wealth, like if you look at the
- 50:06Speaker 2: new ports of it all.
- 50:08Speaker 3: Okay.
- 50:08Speaker 2: But it's continually losing that. So it's very blue-collar, but
- 50:12Speaker 2: it's culturally been white-collar, so it has that amazing contrast.
- 50:19Speaker 3: Dichotomy of people, yeah.
- 50:20Speaker 2: Yeah, dichotomy of people, and I think that's why this
- 50:22Speaker 2: cast is so interesting because A lot of them even have, like,
- 50:24Speaker 2: they have, like, blue-collar jobs, it feels like, in a way.
- 50:27Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 50:28Speaker 2: Some of them are, like, they're plumbers.
- 50:30Speaker 3: And so you had your bar mitzvah there?
- 50:32Speaker 2: I had my bar mitzvah in Newport. Well, this photo
- 50:35Speaker 2: is my parents went on. We went to Block Island,
- 50:37Speaker 2: which is sort of the last episode.
- 50:38Speaker 3: Yes.
- 50:39Speaker 2: Of Rehats of Rhode Island. We're hoary. And I, like,
- 50:45Speaker 2: crashed our 25th anniversary. And I was so, I was, like,
- 50:48Speaker 2: in a mood the whole time. I was like, but
- 50:50Speaker 2: thank God that they could reclaim the space.
- 50:52Speaker 3: Are you the only child?
- 50:53Speaker 2: I have a brother, but he was abroad, a.k.a. Illinois.
- 50:56Speaker 3: Oh, okay. I think they were thrilled to see you.
- 51:00Speaker 2: No, they love me. Of course.
- 51:01Speaker 3: How could you not?
- 51:02Speaker 4: Now, this Liz, who is the Dolores from Real Housewives
- 51:07Speaker 4: of New Jersey. They look so much alike. It's like insane.
- 51:11Speaker 4: And so Dolores was seen on the show in the beginning.
- 51:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 51:16Speaker 4: They're creating a menopausal gummy, which I think is one
- 51:20Speaker 4: of the greatest.
- 51:21Speaker 2: I love it.
- 51:22Speaker 4: One of the greatest, I believe, smartest and going to
- 51:27Speaker 4: be the most successful real housewife entrepreneurial thing.
- 51:33Speaker 2: What's the most creative one I've heard?
- 51:34Speaker 3: I totally, as someone of that age, you're always looking
- 51:38Speaker 3: for something.
- 51:39Speaker 4: We have the money to buy it. Everyone's going to
- 51:42Speaker 4: get there one day if you're not there yet. And-
- 51:46Speaker 4: So it's just brilliant, and I bet Bethany Frankel is
- 51:51Speaker 4: fucking pissed because she could have jumped on that, you know?
- 51:56Speaker 4: Because when we became legal, so many people jumped on that,
- 52:00Speaker 4: and Housewives did part of it. But nobody thought of
- 52:04Speaker 4: coming up with that little niche of being menopausal.
- 52:08Speaker 3: So props to them.
- 52:10Speaker 4: Because I heard Dolores is kind of– it's not working
- 52:14Speaker 4: out that well for her on New Jersey.
- 52:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 52:17Speaker 3: So, you know, no one cares. Frank is no longer
- 52:20Speaker 3: on it. Her ex-husband, he's married to somebody else.
- 52:22Speaker 4: She and the Irishman, who are delightful, I don't know
- 52:25Speaker 4: if they're getting married, now Melissa and Teresa are together
- 52:29Speaker 4: and friendly, so she's no longer the peacemaker. So if
- 52:32Speaker 4: she has to exit out, I hope she stands off
- 52:37Speaker 4: to the menopausal gummy.
- 52:39Speaker 3: I think it is so smart.
- 52:41Speaker 4: But then I loved that Rula was saying to Liz,
- 52:45Speaker 4: I know, you know, she's just trying to make everybody
- 52:47Speaker 4: else be a cheater. So she's like, I know that
- 52:50Speaker 4: you said when the, you know, the cat's away, the
- 52:52Speaker 4: mouse plays, when your husband was on 10 months a
- 52:56Speaker 4: year fishing.
- 52:57Speaker 3: You had some fun. And she's like, why didn't you
- 52:59Speaker 3: just say it? Why didn't you say it? You know what?
- 53:01Speaker 3: I was in Block Island.
- 53:03Speaker 4: I met somebody that I hadn't seen in 30 years.
- 53:05Speaker 4: We were singing and dancing. He was spinning me around.
- 53:08Speaker 3: And you know what? My husband and I laugh about
- 53:10Speaker 3: it now. And I'm like, okay.
- 53:11Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 53:12Speaker 3: Again, who cares? Who cares? But I think she handled
- 53:15Speaker 3: it right. She's just like, you know, fuck you.
- 53:17Speaker 2: Well, I like how they do drama on this show
- 53:18Speaker 2: because they always play these games where they're going like,
- 53:21Speaker 2: No one brings up, they go, how dare you talk
- 53:24Speaker 2: about me cheating on my husband? And no one should
- 53:25Speaker 2: ever bring up me cheating on my husband or allegations
- 53:27Speaker 2: of me cheating on my husband. It's like, no one
- 53:29Speaker 2: had said that yet. That's just in your head, Liz.
- 53:31Speaker 2: Like you said to the quiet part out loud.
- 53:34Speaker 4: I always love when they have the dinner parties and
- 53:35Speaker 4: they're like, let's play a game.
- 53:38Speaker 3: We didn't buy this game at Target.
- 53:40Speaker 4: Clearly the producer was writing the things like, let's see,
- 53:44Speaker 4: let's open the, let's open the card.
- 53:46Speaker 2: Okay.
- 53:47Speaker 4: Who here would you like to plan their funeral for?
- 53:52Speaker 4: that's a creative way of saying, who do you want dead?
- 53:55Speaker 3: I'm going to say you.
- 53:57Speaker 4: Because no offense, but you make my life hell.
- 54:01Speaker 3: And I want to see you live in hell.
- 54:03Speaker 2: Okay.
- 54:04Speaker 3: Next question. I'm like, my God, like you match.
- 54:07Speaker 2: Why does Heather gay have her dirty hands and everything?
- 54:10Speaker 3: She started that.
- 54:12Speaker 4: Everyone's like, Oh my God, I'm going to do that
- 54:13Speaker 4: on every show.
- 54:15Speaker 2: Funny. Um, The game culture to like go to drama.
- 54:18Speaker 5: Yes.
- 54:19Speaker 2: It's like, why is it the only way to bring
- 54:21Speaker 2: up the camera?
- 54:21Speaker 3: It's pretty lazy by the producer that's like writing up
- 54:24Speaker 3: the cards.
- 54:25Speaker 2: I'm like, even during the trivia match on this, it
- 54:28Speaker 2: was like when it was heated rival battles of this
- 54:32Speaker 2: whole season. It's like, they love, they're always playing games
- 54:34Speaker 2: with games, which I love.
- 54:36Speaker 3: And I always, and I'm so sick of.
- 54:39Speaker 4: Female driven reality shows that always start with, Have you
- 54:43Speaker 4: done anal?
- 54:45Speaker 2: Would you do anal?
- 54:46Speaker 3: I'm like, what?
- 54:48Speaker 2: The fourth episode of Sex and the City.
- 54:50Speaker 3: They always go to anal because it's like, oh. And
- 54:53Speaker 3: I'm like, again, who's writing that? This is a gay
- 54:56Speaker 3: producer in the corner.
- 54:57Speaker 2: Okay.
- 54:59Speaker 3: We are not talking about that with a ton of people.
- 55:04Speaker 3: Maybe you talk to your girlfriend like, holy shit, whatever.
- 55:09Speaker 3: But that's what you got to do to be edgy.
- 55:12Speaker 3: And how many times have they touched each other's noob tits?
- 55:15Speaker 4: How many scenes has there been in a reality show where, oh, that's,
- 55:20Speaker 4: you know.
- 55:20Speaker 3: And they always put that in the trailer. What? And then, like,
- 55:24Speaker 3: someone falling over. Like, it's always that same thing. Like,
- 55:28Speaker 3: these girls are wild.
- 55:30Speaker 4: They wear their spanks in the pool and grab each
- 55:33Speaker 4: other's fake tits.
- 55:34Speaker 2: It's like... I know.
- 55:35Speaker 3: It's always something else.
- 55:36Speaker 2: Well, I'm like, the editing team seems so distant from
- 55:39Speaker 2: the actual girls themselves. So true. It's amazing to watch.
- 55:44Speaker 3: So you're a fan of the show.
- 55:46Speaker 2: I like it. I think it can have amazing. The
- 55:49Speaker 2: first season is pretty good and has some really incredible moments.
- 55:52Speaker 2: But overall, it can be lackluster. But season two, I
- 55:55Speaker 2: think they can really, they can strike your back. This
- 55:56Speaker 2: is what's going to happen in season two. Okay.
- 55:59Speaker 3: Ruella's going to file.
- 56:00Speaker 2: Okay.
- 56:01Speaker 3: She's going to file.
- 56:03Speaker 4: And then that is going to make her more human
- 56:08Speaker 4: and vulnerable to the cast members and the audience. And
- 56:11Speaker 4: then there'll be a redemption of a moment where she
- 56:15Speaker 4: goes to Joellen and really is like, I don't know
- 56:19Speaker 4: who that was. You know, I I'm you know, if
- 56:23Speaker 4: it wasn't for you, I wouldn't be here now.
- 56:26Speaker 3: But then the divorce will get ugly. So we'll have
- 56:28Speaker 3: like a Doreen PK kind of thing. It's not going
- 56:31Speaker 3: to be peaceful.
- 56:32Speaker 4: It's not going to be as friendly as Joey Roll
- 56:34Speaker 4: and Buddy. But that'll happen.
- 56:37Speaker 3: And that's what's great about Bravo.
- 56:39Speaker 4: It's like you could always make lemonade as long as
- 56:43Speaker 4: you're selling your soul to Andy Cohen.
- 56:46Speaker 2: Please.
- 56:46Speaker 4: He will make the lemonade with you and make you
- 56:49Speaker 4: sell it on the corner of the street.
- 56:51Speaker 2: For five cents i don't know if you can do
- 56:52Speaker 2: that in rhode island.
- 56:53Speaker 4: Five cents while he makes a dollar you know it's
- 56:56Speaker 4: that's what it'll work so make that lemonade.
- 56:58Speaker 2: Do you think so you think she seemed like a
- 57:00Speaker 2: camille situation like she's uppity because of her like her
- 57:04Speaker 2: highfalutin doctor husband and she'll be humbled.
- 57:06Speaker 3: By wait which one are you talking about which one
- 57:08Speaker 3: from beverly hills oh dorit oh oh season one like
- 57:11Speaker 3: him when um with um what's his name uh Wait,
- 57:15Speaker 3: Camille and Kelsey Grammar.
- 57:16Speaker 2: Kelsey Grammar, yeah.
- 57:17Speaker 3: But are you comparing it to what? What are you saying?
- 57:20Speaker 2: Her season one to season two arc, where she's completely
- 57:22Speaker 2: humbled by a divorce.
- 57:23Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Totally. 100%.
- 57:26Speaker 4: Everything, it's like, you know, it's basically, yeah, the storylines
- 57:32Speaker 4: all repeat themselves now.
- 57:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 57:35Speaker 4: In different franchises. Because a woman's story is not unique.
- 57:40Speaker 3: So there is cheating, marriage, divorce.
- 57:43Speaker 4: Struggles with a child, you know, whatever your story is,
- 57:47Speaker 4: you know, trying to be that businesswoman, having a second wedding.
- 57:51Speaker 2: Well, now we have menopausal gummies.
- 57:52Speaker 3: And now we have menopausal gummies. Thank God.
- 57:55Speaker 2: Give me some of those. I love that's the first
- 57:56Speaker 2: protective state in the whole country for menopausal women is
- 58:00Speaker 2: Rhode Island.
- 58:00Speaker 4: They said, yeah, they are protected as a protected class,
- 58:03Speaker 4: which is really great because it's just basically protecting ageism.
- 58:08Speaker 2: It's huge.
- 58:08Speaker 3: So it is really important.
- 58:10Speaker 4: Um this girl alicia is so funny she's like no
- 58:14Speaker 4: no don't get up she's got a facebook she's such
- 58:17Speaker 4: a great character the voice is so funny and she's
- 58:20Speaker 4: very sweet generally so like she's not mean kind of
- 58:25Speaker 4: like a sonia morgan yes sonia morgan has never been
- 58:29Speaker 4: mean and that you know what i mean she really
- 58:32Speaker 4: hasn't when you think about it there's no better Yeah,
- 58:34Speaker 4: she doesn't know better.
- 58:35Speaker 3: She's a mess. She's funny. She's a drunk. She's slutty.
- 58:38Speaker 4: But she doesn't do, like, manipulative, mean, cruel things behind
- 58:43Speaker 4: the scenes to.
- 58:44Speaker 2: Fuck you over.
- 58:45Speaker 4: Or she works on it all the four months in
- 58:48Speaker 4: between shooting to then, you know, layer. Like, there's so
- 58:51Speaker 4: many women that have done stuff like that. But, like,
- 58:54Speaker 4: I could never imagine this girl doing it.
- 58:56Speaker 3: No. Or Sonya. So, I like it. Speaking of... Rhode Island.
- 59:04Speaker 3: What is going on? Did they have their wedding or not?
- 59:06Speaker 2: Okay, so there was fireworks there the other day.
- 59:09Speaker 3: They're saying- Taylor Swift and Travis get married. Did they?
- 59:15Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm, I actually do believe in the MSG theory.
- 59:19Speaker 2: I think they're saving out for that.
- 59:21Speaker 4: So then what was these parties? They were just pre
- 59:23Speaker 4: parties or engagement parties or something.
- 59:26Speaker 2: There's nothing to convince people that Taylor Swift's not gay.
- 59:29Speaker 2: So they'll throw a huge.
- 59:32Speaker 2: They're doing anything to lead us off the track.
- 59:36Speaker 3: What do you think? Do you think this is not
- 59:38Speaker 3: a real relationship?
- 59:39Speaker 2: I hope not.
- 59:40Speaker 3: You hope it's not a real relationship?
- 59:42Speaker 2: No.
- 59:42Speaker 3: Why?
- 59:43Speaker 2: Because Taylor's our best capitalist. She's married to the money
- 59:47Speaker 2: and the music. So does she have room for a man?
- 59:50Speaker 2: I don't know. And also, I believe they're both gay.
- 59:56Speaker 2: that is so well Taylor's had rumors for years but
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: now they're coming out there's like that Kelsey also has
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: a boyfriend and they're in a lavender marriage this is
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: Gen Z's obsessed with the fact that these two are
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: gay I love that and don't you see it it's
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: kind of totally well every like even the call like
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: the call of rectification or it's like everyone has a
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: secret girlfriend these days but they won't say it on
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: camera yeah it's so that we're seeing it everywhere I
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: don't know.
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: I've gone down this road of believing it and being like,
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: you know, she wants to be the girl in the
- 1:00:35Speaker 4: stands and he's the football player and enjoyed all of that.
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: And I was like, they better get married quick because
- 1:00:41Speaker 4: she's going to get the ick factor soon.
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: I think he likes to.
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: Sing too much. I, you know, I'm like, she just
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: needs to get pregnant. And I'm like, I feel like, oh,
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: my God, could they in five years have some dorky like,
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: you know, Kelly Ripa and her husband daytime talk show?
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: Like, please. I don't know. And so your theory is
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: so much better.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: No, they're gay. Well, also.
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: But do you think what someone is?
- 1:01:09Speaker 4: Do you think in their situation, do you think they
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: both are fighting inner demons or do you think they
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: are in it together?
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: And keeping each other's secrets.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: No, they're keeping each other's secrets. For money. They know that.
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: Imagine if they came out as gay. Girl, you can't
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: get the same brand deals. They're not going to send
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: you the same.
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: Wow. Well.
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: And he's built a nation on being straight. I mean,
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: her might be a bit better, but I don't think so.
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: I think so many people envision this as the classic
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: man breaking up with woman story. And they can really
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: emulate with her music that way. But what I see
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: is there's a lot of lesbians in our culture where
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: they constantly are going through breakups. And there's so much
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: conversation constantly where it's like every man is evil. So
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: they're dating men and they go, oh, I don't like
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: this man. But we're not meant to like men because
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: men are awful. And then they realize one day that
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: they're actually lesbians. I keep seeing this. It's surprising. And
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: I do think that's what we're having here.
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: So you think they're doing, because when I first heard
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: about the Madison Square Garden thing, I was like, are
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: they that big of thirst buckets.
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: To do it there? Because you would think it would
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: be the opposite.
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: It's like when Madonna got married to Sean Penn, they
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: really wanted to have a wedding. And that was like
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: the first time that like paparazzi was so obsessed and
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: the helicopters and everything.
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: And then Sean Penn was this angry guy and he's like,
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: trying to.
- 1:02:41Speaker 4: Shoot the helicopters with guns, and it's her wedding day,
- 1:02:44Speaker 4: and she... She likes the fame, but she didn't want
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: it there. And they end up getting divorced, obviously. But, like,
- 1:02:52Speaker 4: I just kind of was like, well, by having it there,
- 1:02:55Speaker 4: does it protect the helicopters and have their thing? But then,
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: so the whole place would be, like, parties or would
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: they just really still only have, like, 500 people there?
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: What is it? I don't understand how you have your
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: wedding there.
- 1:03:08Speaker 4: I guess any, with all the money in the world,
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: you could make any venue absolutely stunning. You bring in enough, like,
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: you know, trestles and furniture and, you know.
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: Well, the thought is they want a closed wedding. Like
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: they want it indoors, but they want a big wedding.
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: So it's like, MST is great. So you can bring
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: all their friends and family. But like, have you been
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: to MST? It's like the lights on. It's not that
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: pretty in there. Yeah. You have to do a lot
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: to convert a space like that. I mean, they do
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: have a ton of money.
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:03:32Speaker 3: They could, they could do it.
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: They can dish it out. But I went to a
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: girls' ball mess for one time at Yankee stadium. And
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: it's like, Which was amazing, of course.
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: How rich was that girl? I know, please.
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: She got a music video that year, too. Where it's
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: like the Rebecca Blackification.
- 1:03:44Speaker 5: Really?
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: She was? Where is she now?
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: She has a podcast.
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: Does she have a podcast?
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: She's still chasing the dream. To be a singer. Of
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: being a musician. Yeah.
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: Oh, and now she does country.
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: She does country now.
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: Jewish girl from New York.
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: Doing country.
- 1:04:00Speaker 4: And acting like she didn't live a privileged Upper East
- 1:04:05Speaker 4: Side or whatever the rich place is to live. I
- 1:04:07Speaker 4: love it where she's like doing songs where she's.
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: Like, I remember the whiskey on the back streets. Walking
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: in Nashville. I remember sparkling eyes in high school. High school?
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: You were at Yankee Stadium for bar mitzvah.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: Bar mitzvah. So you're familiar with her music.
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: I might know somebody who has done a similar path.
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: I love watching that happen. But yeah, Taylor's kind of
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: like that too. Well, she acknowledges it a bit more
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: because she was like a nerd in high school.
- 1:04:39Speaker 4: She's a nerd in high school. I do love her story.
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: I do love her success and her writing and everything.
- 1:04:44Speaker 4: And I also love when people realize how if there's
- 1:04:49Speaker 4: a rising star, their female star that's about to have
- 1:04:52Speaker 4: a song come out, all of a sudden... she releases
- 1:04:55Speaker 4: five secret songs that week. So it's like one, two, three, four, five.
- 1:05:00Speaker 4: And then that person's song is number six.
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: I wish you could do that with podcasting.
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: Oh, what do you mean?
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: Like six episodes a week. One crazy episode coming out,
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: six crazy episodes instead.
- 1:05:11Speaker 4: Yes, yes. There's too many of us. It's like, don't
- 1:05:16Speaker 4: even try to bother. But I think that's really fascinating.
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: And music has done that for years. You know, they
- 1:05:22Speaker 4: do these behind this, the scene things, you know, um,
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: like I was talking about like jelly roll files. Now,
- 1:05:29Speaker 4: if you look up jelly roll files, it'll just be
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: about the divorce and nothing else. And there's other stuff
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: about his files. So it's like front of genius, you know,
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: for the, for the Googling and all of that kind
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: of stuff or what they look for.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: Well, I, I have an SEO manager on your team
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: to the, what to have an SEO manager on your team.
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: It's like, you don't really do anything.
- 1:05:53Speaker 3: I don't know, but he bugs. I don't know if
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: it's the podcasting or what, or mostly it's the singing.
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: It's everything.
- 1:06:00Speaker 3: That made me really nervous, but hopefully the love is real.
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: And also him having a brother.
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: Even if it's a lavender love, hopefully the love is real.
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: Yes. Let's hope. I do think.
- 1:06:12Speaker 4: And they're best friends forever. This comes from Bravo Snarkside.
- 1:06:17Speaker 4: This person, great Instagram that I follow.
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: They caught this.
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: Boy George posted, I'm kind of confused.
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: I think she may have posted this on Father's Day
- 1:06:31Speaker 4: that says, a man who makes the mother of his
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: child struggle, like she reposted this, then he reposted it
- 1:06:38Speaker 4: and said, more truthfully, Rome burnt while you bought handbags.
- 1:06:43Speaker 4: Because obviously he is now team and has been. Team PK,
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: because PK's been his manager for years.
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: Of course.
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: And I think that it has since been taken down,
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: but they caught it before.
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: Boy George getting in a mix. Oh, that's awesome.
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: I mean, he would know, you know.
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: Is she living in a parking lot?
- 1:07:06Speaker 4: I think this was somebody else's thing, and then she
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: posted it.
- 1:07:10Speaker 3: You know, because it's.
- 1:07:11Speaker 4: Like, who would ever make the... mother their child suffer,
- 1:07:15Speaker 4: which could be, you know, the foreclosure keeps getting put off.
- 1:07:18Speaker 4: So she's still in the Encino $ 6 million house. We
- 1:07:23Speaker 4: all know how much she spends on herself.
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: Jesus. And there's really no way to excuse that.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: How much money is Boy George bringing in?
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: That's what I never understood.
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: I never understood.
- 1:07:35Speaker 4: Because I remember somebody told me they hired Boy George
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: for something. And they did say PK was a professional
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: delight to work for, to work with. He set it up,
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: got in there and everything was great. But as someone
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: who does live shows and things like that, I mean,
- 1:07:52Speaker 4: there's only so much money. There's only so much 10%
- 1:07:55Speaker 4: or 15 that you could take from even, you know,
- 1:07:59Speaker 4: a couple hundred grand private party.
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: Like, okay, that's not enough. And then I, but he's like, oh,
- 1:08:05Speaker 3: I'm a serial entrepreneur.
- 1:08:07Speaker 4: And like, he's got all these, but he's also that
- 1:08:09Speaker 4: person that's obviously been very comfortable gambling and juggling and,
- 1:08:14Speaker 4: you know, paying this person and living this life. And
- 1:08:17Speaker 4: you got to fake it till you make it kind
- 1:08:18Speaker 4: of thing, which is really something I cannot relate to
- 1:08:22Speaker 4: at all.
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: And I've never also been an overly label-y person.
- 1:08:26Speaker 4: Like I'm like, when do you suddenly like justify purchasing
- 1:08:30Speaker 4: like Chanel underwear?
- 1:08:32Speaker 3: Like I get it. You want to have your one
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: Chanel bag.
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: I know.
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: But like the clothing.
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: It seems very UK. Okay.
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: Yeah, like when you go into like a high-end store
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: like that and you see like the big heavy hangers
- 1:08:47Speaker 4: and it's like this black, you know, simple black dress product.
- 1:08:51Speaker 3: And it's, you know, $ 4, 800. And it's just a black dress.
- 1:08:54Speaker 4: I'm just like, I just don't get the justification, but
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: she will buy all that.
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: Or the crash house. She had this season at Love
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: Shock Fancy where she bought $ 5, 000 worth of clothing. Kyle goes,
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: you can't afford $ 5, 000 worth of clothing. I can buy
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: whatever I want. It's my money. I don't know why
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: you care. And it's like, well, I actually do agree
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: with Dorit. She also can't afford $ 5, 000 worth of clothing.
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: You agree with Dorit. I agree with both of them.
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: I thought, I thought her point was like, listen, I'm
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: not going to curtail my spending while we're in negotiations
- 1:09:28Speaker 4: because I want the judge to say, PK, you've been
- 1:09:32Speaker 4: married to her for 10 years. And for 10 years,
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: she has spent a hundred thousand dollars on clothing alone.
- 1:09:41Speaker 4: And you've allowed that to happen. So now you have
- 1:09:44Speaker 4: to keep her accustomed to the lifestyle that you've put
- 1:09:48Speaker 4: her in.
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: So that's why I think she didn't want, why? And
- 1:09:51Speaker 4: she was like, why be nice to PK now?
- 1:09:54Speaker 3: I'm going to continue to spend.
- 1:09:55Speaker 4: But at the same time, you're like, well, you are
- 1:09:58Speaker 4: going to be contributing to your lifestyle as well. Why
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: would you want to waste it all that? And the
- 1:10:04Speaker 4: thing is that, you know, it's a reality show. You
- 1:10:07Speaker 4: don't have to dress like that. It's very juicy to
- 1:10:11Speaker 4: see Erica.
- 1:10:14Speaker 3: Move to the tiny... Rental.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: Only 4,000 square feet. Could kill a girl.
- 1:10:19Speaker 5: No, no.
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: Her house isn't 4,000.
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: No, no. Her little house that she rents, Erica, that's
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: like probably.
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: Yeah, there's only one bedroom.
- 1:10:29Speaker 4: That's probably like 1,800 square feet max. And then she's
- 1:10:32Speaker 4: got the little cabana. And, you know, I mean, that
- 1:10:36Speaker 4: was real. And we got to see it. And it
- 1:10:37Speaker 4: didn't waive our interest that she wasn't going down Rodeo and,
- 1:10:42Speaker 4: you know, having her shopping scenes. But that is kind
- 1:10:45Speaker 4: of like Dorit's whole personality. But I mean, you know,
- 1:10:50Speaker 4: every room is probably filled with clothes with, you know,
- 1:10:53Speaker 4: the tag still on it. So moving from there.
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: Will be difficult.
- 1:10:58Speaker 4: But yeah, now he's like, what am I going to do?
- 1:11:01Speaker 4: You know, he's going to start a podcast.
- 1:11:03Speaker 3: You know, PK is going to start a podcast and
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: it's going to be about entrepreneurial men and relationships and
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: starting over.
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: Neither of those subjects have been touched yet. I said
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: neither of those subjects have been touched yet. So I'm
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: glad he's getting in there.
- 1:11:20Speaker 4: We've never had interviewing CEOs. We've never had interviewing guys
- 1:11:26Speaker 4: that have lost it all, but then made the money again.
- 1:11:29Speaker 4: And we've never had, you know, divorce. And now what
- 1:11:33Speaker 4: I'm going to do different to be.
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: A better man. Oh, he'll totally would love to do
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: it with Mauricio.
- 1:11:39Speaker 4: But the thing is, when you do that, you got
- 1:11:41Speaker 4: to realize no other men that like, you got to
- 1:11:47Speaker 4: realize if you're going to be two guys like that,
- 1:11:50Speaker 4: that are going to do a stupid podcast, stay in
- 1:11:54Speaker 4: your lane. The audience that is going to listen to
- 1:11:57Speaker 4: you is going to be the housewife audience.
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: Don't try to do a fucking sports show.
- 1:12:02Speaker 4: Like, don't try to do, like, just know that we
- 1:12:05Speaker 4: want to hear about all the times that Bravo made
- 1:12:09Speaker 4: you do something you didn't want to do, who you
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: were attracted to.
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: We're going to make it about F1, I swear to God.
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: It's going to break me.
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: So, meanwhile, Reality Blurb reported that Lisa Vanderpump confirms that
- 1:12:25Speaker 4: PK and Ken have now made up. But she reveals
- 1:12:30Speaker 4: that Sheena Shea is banned from her hotel.
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: So, you know, she got her new hotel.
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: It looks gorge.
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: It looks gorgeous. And I was invited. And I missed
- 1:12:45Speaker 3: the email.
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: Did you get the advent calendar?
- 1:12:46Speaker 3: No, I missed.
- 1:12:48Speaker 4: I got this email saying, please confirm your address. We
- 1:12:52Speaker 4: have something very special to send you. And I thought
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: I sent the address. And then I like saw an
- 1:12:58Speaker 4: influencer I follow opened the advent calendar thing, the purple thing.
- 1:13:03Speaker 4: And I thought, oh, I want that. That looks so cute.
- 1:13:06Speaker 4: I would totally do a post on that. I did
- 1:13:08Speaker 4: not realize that was an invite to also go spend
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: three days on their dime in Vegas.
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: I know.
- 1:13:14Speaker 3: And how fun that would be. And then I was like, oh, well, whatever.
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: Was it Trixie Mattel you saw? That's a video I saw.
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: No, no, no. It was, I can't remember his name.
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: But anyway, I was like, oh, that would be fun.
- 1:13:26Speaker 4: But, um, but I had plans with my girlfriends for
- 1:13:29Speaker 4: my birthday at my house in La Quinta. So I
- 1:13:31Speaker 4: was kind of like, oh, and then I saw all
- 1:13:32Speaker 4: this stuff and I was like, oh, that looks fun.
- 1:13:35Speaker 4: But like, I'm doing this instead. So then I just
- 1:13:37Speaker 4: wrote her and I was like, afterwards I go, well, you're,
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: everything looked beautiful.
- 1:13:41Speaker 3: I just want to congratulate you because we're friendly. And
- 1:13:44Speaker 3: she was like, yeah, where were you? And I'm like, what?
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: Oh no.
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: Anyway.
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: Then we looked it up and I like wrote back
- 1:13:54Speaker 4: on like the wrong email.
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: Sexy unique apology.
- 1:14:00Speaker 3: I did a sexy unique apology.
- 1:14:03Speaker 4: And, you know, if I didn't have such a fabulous
- 1:14:06Speaker 4: weekend with my friends, then I would have had massive FOMO.
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: It's your birthday weekend.
- 1:14:10Speaker 3: I would have had massive FOMO.
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: You're allowed to do whatever you want your birthday weekend.
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: You can miss anything.
- 1:14:13Speaker 4: If it was a weekend where I was just like
- 1:14:16Speaker 4: by myself doing nothing, then I would have like flung
- 1:14:19Speaker 4: myself off.
- 1:14:20Speaker 3: Into my pool with clothes on, but it looked amazing.
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: It should be sent out like by carrier pigeon for
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: something like that. Like you're going to miss, it's easy
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: to miss something like that. I missed it. This girl's
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: getting hundreds of thousands of emails a day. I'm so sorry.
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: Sorry she missed it.
- 1:14:34Speaker 4: But of course, like I don't, I'm not mad about it.
- 1:14:37Speaker 4: Like of course they sent it out to so many
- 1:14:39Speaker 4: people and I'm sure there were people that did respond
- 1:14:42Speaker 4: and they just thought, well, they're not interested or whatever.
- 1:14:44Speaker 3: But I was interested, Lisa. And I do think it
- 1:14:47Speaker 3: looks great. It does look really nice. And it sounded
- 1:14:49Speaker 3: like people had fun.
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: And it's also, it seems like right for the economy
- 1:14:52Speaker 2: of Las Vegas today, which is like ever shrinking. It's
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: like to have a nice boutique.
- 1:14:56Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: And it does seem that there were, it seemed like
- 1:14:59Speaker 3: the only like OG Vanderpump person who went was DJ
- 1:15:04Speaker 3: James Kennedy.
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: No.
- 1:15:06Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't, you know, there was no like
- 1:15:08Speaker 4: Lala or I didn't see any of those people in
- 1:15:11Speaker 4: the photos.
- 1:15:12Speaker 2: It was all like food bloggers. So I was like, okay,
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: it's actually unique. influencer day yeah yeah it's a lot
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: of new people.
- 1:15:19Speaker 4: But anyway they're all friends again which would make sense
- 1:15:24Speaker 4: um because but.
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: Then I still want to know I still want to.
- 1:15:28Speaker 4: Know Lucy Goosey Apple Juicy that whole thing was that
- 1:15:33Speaker 4: they got the dog and the dog snipped at PK's
- 1:15:37Speaker 4: nose and then she according to Dorit had a friend
- 1:15:41Speaker 4: who said oh we'll take the dog and then Unbeknownst
- 1:15:45Speaker 4: to Dorit, the dog ended up at a shelter and
- 1:15:50Speaker 4: then they saw that it had a chip and then
- 1:15:53Speaker 4: they called the Vanderpump dogs and then she got the
- 1:15:58Speaker 4: dog back. And then the story got leaked out, which
- 1:16:02Speaker 4: would make Dorit look bad. And then all the girls
- 1:16:05Speaker 4: thought that that Lisa Vanderpump leaked it and Lisa Vanderpump.
- 1:16:11Speaker 3: Will forever say, no, I did not say that.
- 1:16:14Speaker 4: Why would I ever want that kind of story out
- 1:16:17Speaker 4: there about something like this happening? She should have just
- 1:16:21Speaker 4: told me. But they always said, oh, it was so
- 1:16:23Speaker 4: that she could like help her show Vanderpump Dogs. I'm like,
- 1:16:26Speaker 4: but Vanderpump Dogs was about like, you know, trying to
- 1:16:28Speaker 4: make these kids interesting, like pumping each other while they
- 1:16:31Speaker 4: clean the dog or whatever.
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: And, you know, it wasn't about the rescue of Dawn.
- 1:16:36Speaker 3: I don't know. But it's interesting that now they're all friends.
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: It seems so simple for it not to be brought
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: to camera.
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: It's like, the secrecy is what has made it so captivating.
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: But in reality, it's like, well, PK's just an asshole.
- 1:16:51Speaker 4: I always just think when they go on a reality show, like,
- 1:16:53Speaker 4: who leaked it?
- 1:16:54Speaker 3: Who leaked it? I don't know. There's four PAs.
- 1:16:57Speaker 4: There's three guys with cameras sweating in a pair of
- 1:17:00Speaker 4: cargo shorts. There's nannies. There's housekeepers. There's personal assistants. There's
- 1:17:06Speaker 4: personal friends. There's, you know, friends of friends. There's spouses.
- 1:17:11Speaker 4: There's someone at a restaurant who heard the conversation. Like,
- 1:17:15Speaker 4: Who's to say who did it?
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: Well, they're saying that West is the one that leaked
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: the audio from the Summer House reunion.
- 1:17:20Speaker 3: That's what we originally thought.
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: You thought that over here?
- 1:17:23Speaker 4: Right away, my friend Kate Casey and I thought, or
- 1:17:27Speaker 4: she did, and I was like, that sounds good, thought that.
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: He may have leaked it because he wanted off of
- 1:17:33Speaker 3: the show.
- 1:17:34Speaker 4: Because just like a Morgan, Kyle's alleged girlfriend- was like,
- 1:17:40Speaker 4: don't mention my name anymore. I'm sick of these old
- 1:17:42Speaker 4: housewives thinking they're my only fans. I want some real
- 1:17:45Speaker 4: country folk liking my music. Don't you talk about me anymore.
- 1:17:48Speaker 4: I think West was like, get me out of this
- 1:17:51Speaker 4: Bravo nightmare.
- 1:17:52Speaker 3: I want to be.
- 1:17:53Speaker 4: Like, I want to podcast like Travis and his brother.
- 1:17:58Speaker 3: I want to just be like in this sports world shit.
- 1:18:03Speaker 4: And again, too bad. Like too bad you're already known
- 1:18:06Speaker 4: for this, but Who knows?
- 1:18:09Speaker 2: Why are they trying to turn ESPN into like a
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: franchise network? Like a drama channel?
- 1:18:14Speaker 3: I don't know, but that's why. So now he's off
- 1:18:16Speaker 3: the show.
- 1:18:17Speaker 4: And I think, but they said no, that it was
- 1:18:20Speaker 4: Jennifer Lawrence's assistant.
- 1:18:23Speaker 3: Like what a weird.
- 1:18:24Speaker 2: For Jennifer Lawrence to bring it to camera. That is amazing.
- 1:18:27Speaker 4: Talk about someone's career that's like went away once Harvey
- 1:18:32Speaker 4: Weinstein was put to prison, but whatever.
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: Not that that makes a difference. Connect the dots.
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
- 1:18:40Speaker 3: Anyway, one last thing I'm going to say.
- 1:18:43Speaker 4: You being a New Yorker, I'm sure you're excited that
- 1:18:45Speaker 4: your team won Knicks.
- 1:18:48Speaker 3: They're a basketball team.
- 1:18:48Speaker 2: As excited as I can be about it.
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: So they're a basketball team.
- 1:18:51Speaker 2: They're a basketball team. I'm like, oh, they are. Okay,
- 1:18:54Speaker 2: I was confused.
- 1:18:55Speaker 3: I'm sure it was a big team.
- 1:18:57Speaker 4: But this J-Lo moment, now she is a New York girl,
- 1:19:01Speaker 4: and I get the excitement. But she posts this video
- 1:19:05Speaker 4: where she's like, oh, my God, and someone's filming it.
- 1:19:09Speaker 4: you know, the winning moment and her excited.
- 1:19:12Speaker 3: Oh my God.
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: Oh my God.
- 1:19:13Speaker 4: We got to call everybody as if like people didn't
- 1:19:16Speaker 4: know that they won.
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: And then, then that was posted on her social of
- 1:19:21Speaker 4: how excited she was about the Knicks winning. And it
- 1:19:24Speaker 4: was so similar to when the Dodgers won and local
- 1:19:30Speaker 4: LA girl, princess Megan Markle had the camera propped up
- 1:19:36Speaker 4: of her being excited that they won and And she
- 1:19:39Speaker 4: was like in some theater room with her friend and
- 1:19:41Speaker 4: she had to dance around and Harry's like this.
- 1:19:44Speaker 3: And she's just like.
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: Oh my God, oh my God, we won!
- 1:19:51Speaker 3: And then post that. Like it was just so.
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: It's performative.
- 1:19:56Speaker 4: So she said, so she set up the phone to
- 1:19:58Speaker 4: film this with only a watch party of three people.
- 1:20:01Speaker 3: I wrote this and then posted it. Way to live
- 1:20:03Speaker 3: in the moment.
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: You need to share it on threads. I know. That
- 1:20:07Speaker 2: would kill.
- 1:20:07Speaker 3: But I did that only once.
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: Oh, post on threads?
- 1:20:11Speaker 4: No, I only posted once like moments of like a
- 1:20:15Speaker 4: sports game winning.
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: But it was my cousin.
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: You're allowed to.
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: It was my cousin. So that's okay.
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want.
- 1:20:22Speaker 4: He's on the Bruins and he won the gold medal
- 1:20:24Speaker 4: of hockey. So that I did.
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: I'd make my cover photo if that happened.
- 1:20:29Speaker 3: Yeah, that I would do.
- 1:20:30Speaker 4: But I do think this is kind of funny that
- 1:20:32Speaker 4: it was such a similar vibe going.
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: I like the husband in the back like... Absolutely not
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: caring at all.
- 1:20:38Speaker 3: Last thing is.
- 1:20:39Speaker 2: Oh, my.
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: Teresa has a new book coming out.
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: It's an AI cover.
- 1:20:44Speaker 3: Her third memoir. It is an AI cover.
- 1:20:47Speaker 2: That, to me, is so crazy.
- 1:20:48Speaker 3: Oh, my God. You're totally right. It's not like she
- 1:20:51Speaker 3: did a photo shoot for that.
- 1:20:53Speaker 2: That's not her face.
- 1:20:53Speaker 3: At least Tariq had a.
- 1:20:54Speaker 4: Photo shoot at a photo shoot party about the cover.
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: She actually got in the outfit.
- 1:21:00Speaker 5: Please.
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: I mean, she had AI write it, but at least
- 1:21:03Speaker 2: this is the cover, which it might be worse.
- 1:21:05Speaker 3: Love, love, love.
- 1:21:07Speaker 4: And then Louie, this is going to be the audio.
- 1:21:10Speaker 4: And then Louie said, so do you want to go
- 1:21:13Speaker 4: to dinner? And I was like, who, you asking me?
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:21:16Speaker 4: And we went to dinner. I was such a gentleman.
- 1:21:19Speaker 4: And yeah, that's what it's going to be. I'm sure
- 1:21:22Speaker 4: it will sell because a lot of people are very
- 1:21:25Speaker 4: interested in her.
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: Wasn't she trying to write a blog and she gave
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: up after a week?
- 1:21:31Speaker 4: Well, I mean, listen, of course you're going to, why
- 1:21:33Speaker 4: wouldn't you have a, A writer help you. Let them
- 1:21:36Speaker 4: just ask you questions and put it together. I mean,
- 1:21:38Speaker 4: a ghostwriter is not a crime. But she, Melania, we
- 1:21:44Speaker 4: found out this past week, Melania was arrested for domestic violence.
- 1:21:49Speaker 3: There was a call to the home. She was arrested.
- 1:21:52Speaker 4: It came right around like early May. And so people
- 1:21:57Speaker 4: did the math and realized that she had already finished
- 1:22:00Speaker 4: her finals at Tampa.
- 1:22:01Speaker 3: So she would have been home. Um, she hired a
- 1:22:04Speaker 3: defense attorney.
- 1:22:06Speaker 4: Nobody knows what the fight, who the fight.
- 1:22:09Speaker 3: Was with in the home.
- 1:22:10Speaker 4: And if it will be, you know, dismissed or whatever,
- 1:22:14Speaker 4: or there is a photo that's going around allegedly where
- 1:22:20Speaker 4: Teresa has a mark on her eye and people believe
- 1:22:24Speaker 4: that that is like they got an altercation and then
- 1:22:28Speaker 4: a Louie or, or the other little daughter called the police. And,
- 1:22:34Speaker 4: you know, so it's like, what is this about? Is this,
- 1:22:37Speaker 4: you know, is Louie causing this problems? I'm like, listen,
- 1:22:40Speaker 4: if the police evaluated it and she was arrested, yes,
- 1:22:45Speaker 4: her defense attorney could make this go away.
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:22:48Speaker 4: But, um, But I'm like, this might get them their
- 1:22:52Speaker 4: spinoff Kardashians. Because remember early days of Kardashians, those girls
- 1:22:56Speaker 4: beat the shit out of each other. They fucking smacked
- 1:23:00Speaker 4: each other. They were like pulling off jeans that were theirs.
- 1:23:03Speaker 4: Those are my fucking jeans. So I don't know. I
- 1:23:08Speaker 4: don't think it's insane that a 20-year-old.
- 1:23:13Speaker 3: You know, right. Get in a physical, I don't know.
- 1:23:16Speaker 4: I don't think it's good, but, um, but it's interesting,
- 1:23:19Speaker 4: you know, they're just like not talking about it and
- 1:23:22Speaker 4: hopefully everything's okay. And then go get her book pre-orders. Um, I, yeah, it's, uh,
- 1:23:29Speaker 4: I'm going to go to your, what did you say?
- 1:23:31Speaker 3: What?
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: No, I mean, it's, it's a unique, it's a sexy,
- 1:23:34Speaker 2: unique situation. I, you know, I, it's, it's like, and
- 1:23:39Speaker 2: also she posted a photo of Louie yesterday for father's day.
- 1:23:43Speaker 2: If you caught that.
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: Well, why wouldn't she? He's a dad.
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, of course. But it's also like what
- 1:23:49Speaker 2: is happening behind the scenes that also like, especially when
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: it's such an inflamed situation, so much attention on her,
- 1:23:54Speaker 2: like hosting that might be, it might be emblematic or something.
- 1:23:59Speaker 3: I think the whole thing is let's forget. Let's forget.
- 1:24:02Speaker 3: Let's not talk about this Melania thing. And, but I mean,
- 1:24:07Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about it. It's out there. I'm
- 1:24:10Speaker 3: not saying she's a horrible person. I'm not saying any
- 1:24:12Speaker 3: of them are horrible people.
- 1:24:13Speaker 4: I mean, sometimes stuff like this happens and cops are
- 1:24:16Speaker 4: called and sometimes things go away. But then when you're famous,
- 1:24:19Speaker 4: it gets out there and everyone like speculates and whatever.
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening in Tampa, but it's like, well,
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: is that so far off?
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: No, it didn't happen in Tampa. It happened at the
- 1:24:31Speaker 3: house in New Jersey.
- 1:24:31Speaker 2: She's learning something at school. I think it's a right hook.
- 1:24:35Speaker 4: Remember when she was little where she'd be like to
- 1:24:37Speaker 4: her dad, Give me my, she was like four.
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: And she was like, give me my pizza, you old troll.
- 1:24:42Speaker 3: Like she was like so, you know, like funny like that.
- 1:24:47Speaker 4: And I was just in the Bahamas and I realized that,
- 1:24:49Speaker 4: you know, Joe Giudice, that's where he lives now.
- 1:24:52Speaker 3: And he does like little tour guides. I should have
- 1:24:54Speaker 3: got a tour guide for Joe Giudice.
- 1:24:57Speaker 4: Tell me, Evan, like tell everybody where they can follow
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- 1:25:03Speaker 4: over and do yours right now.
- 1:25:05Speaker 3: So tell everybody.
- 1:25:06Speaker 2: Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. I had
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- 1:25:32Speaker 3: We'll You do shows, you do stand-up?
- 1:25:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I do stand-up. Oh, great. I love to do stand-up.
- 1:25:38Speaker 2: I can't figure out how to post about it online yet,
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