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Bow Disciples Challenge Podcast Ft: Ty Jordan, MFJJ, and Brittnie Jean · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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  Then give me a one to 10 review, a Dave Portnoy review of the
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  event. Dude I would say for me a solid
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  10. OK, wow.
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  I'll give it a 10 dude like. Really.
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  Are you just buttering me up right now?
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  No, dude, the vibes are off the chart.
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  Like, we were going back and forth on Instagram and I just
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  like, dude, there's like a big space for events to come in and,
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  like, have like a younger crowd and just like, more kickback.
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  Relax. But still an awesome course.
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  Yeah. I feel like that's exactly what
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  this is. I now you come and everyone is
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  just chill. Yeah.
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  Just good vibes all around. Everyone's hanging out.
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  That's kind of like initially year one, what the what our plan
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  was and obviously year one was very raw compared to this.
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  I couldn't even remember it and Jack had to enlighten me last
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  night because I couldn't. But there was a reason I
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  couldn't freak you. Happened year 1.
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  Didn't you do a couple like little special shrooms or?
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  Something I did, and then I walked.
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  And then you were like staring at a.
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  Trees and stared at trees. Yeah, literally.
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  So Jack's playing guitar. That's actually how the show
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  came to be. So year one, we're sitting
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  around a campfire late at night, people just there was no
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  production to the event, but we're sitting down there and all
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  of a sudden a camp of like 6 people and Jack playing guitar
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  turned into like 30 people around a campfire with him
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  playing. And I go maybe we do a show next
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  year. And I'm like, this is so
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  electric. And I'm like where is Brianna?
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  And I see her come back like 2 hours later and I was like,
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  where have you been? She's like, oh, I, I was just
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  looking at trees. Yeah, I thought I couldn't
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  remember. I was like, what did we do?
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  Year 1? I don't remember at all.
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  And then now I remembered. But I think that's right.
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  Like tacks are phenomenal. I love them, but they're like a
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  mixture of an Expo and a shoot, you know, with the amount of
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  vendors there, which is super cool because you get to see so
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  many things that like aren't in your local stores and things
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  like that. Depends on your local.
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  Store, but yeah, if you go to Nashville N Nashville North.
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  Yeah, Pump station. I code pump station on
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  podiumarcher.com 10% but no I mean this is like that was the
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  goal you get to. Camp here, which some tax do
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  have like Tennessee's tax. We just want to.
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  You can camp at yeah. I think they're trying to do
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  that more as much as they can. It's just trying to find.
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  Not quite that allow. Not only does allow for it but
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  have that much room because if 3000 people are trying to camp
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  or 4000. People are Yeah, you need a
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  giant. Even if a third of them come
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  1000 people in the campground, we're not putting 1000 people in
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  this campground, you know? There's there's one that's
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  they're looking at that's outside of the Nashville area a
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  little bit that actually has the capacity to have that many.
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  People, yeah. So I'm hoping they pick it.
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  Yeah, that would be cool. Now I heard that you have some
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  great. Are they ranges or archery clubs
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  or whatnot in Utah? Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, there's some good ones.
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  Fun like what makes it? Because we have quite a few.
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  Here. We've got Balboa, we've got Bear
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  State here, we've got Alpine. I was say God and run club Gun
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  and Rod Club. No, you still messed it up.
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  God and. God, now I'm messing it up.
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  It is kind of a tongue twist. So we've got quite a few, but
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  like what? What makes them fun I guess.
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  So, so I would say differently, I can't speak as much for
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  Northern Utah because I haven't shot a lot of the ranges up
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  there, but I'm down in Southern Utah and so it's more of a
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  desert landscape. Yeah, which a lot of the stuff I
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  see on YouTube, a lot of people are shooting in the mountains
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  and stuff. And so a lot, a lot more open
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  shots. Yeah.
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  My range personally, which is in down in St.
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  George, UT, Oh I. Know.
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  We know it well. We have an awesome, an awesome
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  3D range out there. But I would say all, all courses
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  are unique. I would say what makes that one
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  unique because it's pretty scenic.
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  There's red rock everywhere. Our club does a good job at
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  making sure there's a variety of 3D targets.
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  And then I also shot the range in near Phoenix, Usury range in
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  Arizona, and that one was killer.
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  Yeah, yeah, an awesome little. Do you guys use any of like the
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  rock? Do you do you do any shoots
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  there like hold shoots or just? Like so the club does, the club
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  does shoots there. Yeah.
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  Do you when you do is like all open stuff or do you like use
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  any of the topography in that rock to do?
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  There's yeah, there's some, there's some cool shots within
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  the topography, but I'll say one thing, like the shoot here, some
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  of the windows you guys put together are sick like.
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  Thank James for that. Like very unique.
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  And I think it's I think it's because you've gone to so many
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  tacks and you've shot so much. So where you have just a
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  different eye for hey, this shot would be sick.
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  Like let's make it happen. And a lot of time goes into
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  making those shots. I don't think people realize how
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  much. Time.
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  The plan goes. Into behind like the knowledge
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  of knowing like your, your Bose science because like or
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  everybody's you know like or the signs of bows and arrow flight
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  and whatnot. Because he'll look at a window
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  and I'll look at a window standing right next to him and
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  be like, you can't make that shot.
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  That is not possible. And he's like, yeah, you can
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  watch. And he just makes it.
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  I'm like, yeah, but what about my short arrow?
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  And I'm like, he's like, yeah, it'll just arc right in there.
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  You know, you've got X amount of distance after that.
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  And I'm looking at him like, hey, that's only like 10 yards.
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  Like, that's not enough. He's like, no, no, by the end of
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  your flight, your arrow's dropping off.
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  You're just going to drop right into the target.
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  And sure as shit it does. So he just has a lot of
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  knowledge, which makes putting these courses together any
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  cooler for people. Yeah, I really figured him up
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  right now how there's egos just inflating.
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  I love it. Yeah, Keep keep buttering me up.
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  I love it. Calculate how much time you have
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  into setting up all. That's impossible, dude.
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  It would be impossible because it's like all three years add up
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  to like what it is now even on the courses because like a lot
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  of those trail networks didn't even exist year one and then
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  like would build would build in some build on that.
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  Then like year 2 reuse some like flip on build new networks and
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  like, so I don't know, it's a shit load, but this year we were
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  definitely more efficient. I'll say that last year we
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  wasted a lot of time on stuff that we didn't need to.
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  For example, like I went out and weed whacked the entire trails
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  on all of them last year. And then I was, I realized when
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  I went to TAC and we were like the first one to shoot a trail
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  and there was like no work done. I mean, we're like blazing
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  trails. And I realized that after three
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  groups go through, it's all going to be frigging dirt roads
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  anyways. So we saved a lot of time there
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  and just like getting better. But yeah, the that's one thing I
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  think Brianna hit on is one thing I really like about this
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  shoot in particular is a lot of the windows that you mentioned
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  are designed to kind of educate people about their trajectory.
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  So I think that's a part of archery that a lot of people
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  overlook is like flight paths. I've done it many times in a
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  tree stand when I was new at it. I would complain and like have
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  to go in and cut down branches that I thought would be in my
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  way, thinking I need to be able to see the full line of sight to
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  this animal and its vitals and my windows that I have open to
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  me. I'm like, no, really all I'm
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  doing is putting myself more in the open and this animal can see
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  me. When reality is, is like, you
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  could just put your pin on that rock, you know, the shape of a
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  deer or a bear or whatever it is you're shooting at or on this
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  piece of grass. Like, OK, that piece of grass, I
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  know it's going to, it's going to go right through there.
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  And I think people get scared to like pins on the rock.
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  I'm going to hit the rock or not.
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  You're going to arc right over the rock.
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  And that, and that's a shot that I've done like even I just shot
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  a mountain Reed buck like a month or two ago and that's
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  exactly the shot it was. You know, I can see the top of
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  its back by a new trajectory in the hill curve.
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  Like I would hit where I needed to.
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  But you got to learn that that's something that without a lot of
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  reps, you just probably don't know.
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  You're like, well, I can't hit him even though you can.
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  Yeah. You know, like, so.
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  I don't know. Yeah.
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  I think that's really cool. And.
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  It's like the bear on the beast, the bear trail that you took us
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  to. It's.
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  The one I'm not going to be able to shoot Beast this year.
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  I shot the other two, which is phenomenal and I'm OK.
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  They're not going to shoot it, but I do want to drive up there
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  and just shoot it once because you haven't.
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  Shot that one, no. We'll go.
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  No, because we did podium the other day together and you guys
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  went on beast. Yeah, which my knees are.
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  They're OK with not going to beast this year, but I do want
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  to shoot that shot although. Because you know, so Chuck with
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  his watch, we had guessed we didn't have time to map out
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  podium like as far as distance, but I was like, I bet it's 1.75
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  miles. Chuck did it on his watch is
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  1.75 miles. Is that?
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  Exactly. Right.
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  Good guess. But I actually think total
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  elevation change, I think podium actually probably has more than
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  beast cuz beast just goes all the way up and all the way down
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  where it's like podiums constantly going up and.
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  Down. I shot podium and I shot beast.
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  Yeah, you were kept saying that. It's like, oh, there's so much
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  up and down, but I was like the whole time shooting podium, like
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  we've been walking uphill for 10 targets.
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  Now we're walking down, oh, on beast.
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  You like when you get to the sign on podium all.
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  The way up and hit 10 and then you start working.
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  Away from the Sasquatch, Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah. Whereas with your beast, you're
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  up and down and up and down, up and down.
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  You're not changing elevations. Yeah, exactly.
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  Podium. I love the section at the end of
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  the podium course. I love the section where it's
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  the downhill, super steep bedded deer turn around, super steep up
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  at the bison, then the little bastard bear and then and then
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  that's. I love the ending.
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  I hate standing on a freaking rock and shoot.
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  No dude, I. That was a funny.
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  He said the same thing when we went and shot beasts.
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  He said the same exact thing. Dude, I drew back and I felt
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  good, and then I started thinking about my feet and I got
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  all along with this. Yeah, this.
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  He was so scared in Tennessee. He gets on this rock and he's
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  like, I do not like this. Well, I always like, I don't
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  know what it is about it, and I probably need to stand on
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  something that moves and practice that a lot because
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  anytime I get on a really hard surface that's not flat, I feel
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  like my equilibrium's all over the place And then.
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  You gotta get one of those balls that Paige uses.
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  Yeah. Those things are crazy to stand.
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  On I know I want somebody to hold my shirt because I could
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  not I like mentally would just. We'll hold your hand, Josh.
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  Yeah, we'll hold your hand. Same thing I'm totally.
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  Fine. Yeah, me.
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  On rock and I'm like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So did you lose any arrows this weekend?
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  When we went to the bear target, I smoked one and then we swapped
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  bows. We smoked.
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  One of each other's we. Oh yeah, you told me that
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  straight it off, James. Like I hadn't lost any targets.
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  Then we go over there and I shoot them all in and then I
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  grab his bow and then I shoot three of my arrows straight into
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  the steel. I was like, well.
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  Well I no so Ty shot one in the steel, I shot one of his in the
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  steel and then Taylor Hawk shot 2 of my arrows into the cheese.
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  Yeah, I went back to the. Did you take my tips off my
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  arrows? I had to.
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  Yeah, I knew it. I go to grab more arrows.
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  I'm like. No, no, no.
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  You know what, I take that back. I actually did not take the tips
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  off. They all unscrewed and David
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  actually shout out to David supplied me with field tips.
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  So I actually didn't but. So I just don't know where my
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  tips that's correct, that's equal with well, you see.
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  What do you think about the the field tips with gaskets?
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  This is a conversation I want to have the ones that don't come
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  with. Field tips.
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  Do they have gaskets? Yeah.
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  Why does Bruce Marshall from Bow and Arrow Shop hate gasket field
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  tips so much? No.
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  Idea. It doesn't make any.
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  Sense. Do you think that's a poor take
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  by Bruce? I do.
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  Think it's a poor take by Bruce. Bruce does not have a lot of
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  poor. Takes no his.
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  Takes are excellent. Very good takes.
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  One reason or another, and I think it's that.
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  I think it's that mindset and maybe it's his age or whatnot
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  where it's like, hey, it works this way, so I don't care.
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  I think that's really more what it is.
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  Like just put some wax on your threads and it doesn't matter.
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  That's what most guys don't shoot O-ring gaskets would do.
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  Now I don't wanna do that. Once in a while, an o-ring
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  gasket will push out on the point a little bit and make your
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  point crooked. So is that the back?
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  It out and put it back. In is that the downside you
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  would say I? Would say.
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  I'd say that's the downside. Or if you're shooting an axis
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  style arrow with a hit insert where it's carbon and though
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  you're screwing in a carbon, a lot of times it'll cut the ring
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  off of the o-ring the exterior because it doesn't fold in like
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  it does on metal. So if you're actually going
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  directly against carbon, might not be ideal in that.
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  Scenario. I'm be honest, I didn't
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  understand anything. I was just as as he was saying
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  that in my head. I I literally before you.
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  Like, you know. What you're talking but no but
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  but I. Was not I.
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  Remember, you're looking like what?
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  I'll block we all. Know what?
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  A 5mm. Yeah, two O 4, yes.
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  I call them skinnies, regulars and in betweens.
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  In betweens then yes. James.
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  'S. Yeah, so you know in.
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  Betweens. Right.
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  Yeah, a lot the not original in between arrow.
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  People are saying I'm an absolute idiot and wonder how in
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  the world I'm on a YouTube channel the.
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  Eastern axis they are right and what they made was an insert
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  that just goes downside the arrow but doesn't come up to the
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  end of the arrow. So when you screw the point in,
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  it's actually screwing. Down into that insert inside
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  carbon OK. A lot of people in the Taurus,
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  you got deeper the carbon on the inside, so there's like an edge.
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  When you try to screw a rubber gasket at fuel point into it, it
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  like cuts the edge of the rubber off.
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  I get it now. I do get it now where?
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  It came from in that era is like, yeah, that's stupid and
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  people Oh my fuel points messed up or something like that.
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  That's too much. Right then I had this.
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  I had this thought as he was going on this spiel.
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  I just in my head before you chirped, I went.
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  I love when he does this. Just look at him go.
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  I love when he. Consequently like you want to
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  deeper those arrows period regardless.
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  Like, I just keep going on this. I love it because it's.
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  Not gonna go in all the way, yeah.
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  It gets really. Close and you look down.
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  It's like why is there a little gap here?
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  It's 'cause you didn't deeper the inside the carbon when.
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  You want. That means clean it out.
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  Clean it out. It's not cleaning it, it's
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  actually sanding it. So when you.
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  Make sand it out. This whole section is insane.
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  I love this part of the part it off.
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  No, I don't think so. This is the stuff that they.
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  Yeah. Look at the inside of the before
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  you inserted it. There'd be an edge that almost
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  goes up when you cut it with a salt and you have to clean that
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  edge off, you were saying. Take a drill or something like.
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  But if you yeah. And then what goes?
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  If you look at like an axis, when they send you those
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  inserts, there's like this little sanding foil that comes
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  in it. And it's for cutting the edge
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  off because it'll, you'll crack your arrow when you go to put
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  your point in and hit something hard because there's not a
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  little recession there. Yeah, that's why you need to do
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  that, yeah. Do you build your own arrows?
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  I do no, I I love. I was actually.
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  Clutching some in the truck. Oh, wonderful.
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  I I have a sponsor for that. It's Brittany Jean outdoors.
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  I was like and I'm going to have her start building my arrows,
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  you know on code for a website coupon code is Brittany doesn't
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  have a website.com. What a crazy take.
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  Something I think she needs to start working on dot com.
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  Yeah, I am going to I'm just going to have Brittany build
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  them for me. So I you know I did used to back
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  in Florida. I built a few arrows back in the
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  day. Not many long time, not many
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  Yep, that was a long time ago. It's about.
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  The easiest do it yourself thing to.
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  Do quite literally your own. Arrow.
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  Yeah, I suppose. You also learn a lot.
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  Sure, sure. Yeah.
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  Mostly I think it's the anxiety I get when like like say
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  fletches fall off or things like I had the issue with fletches
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  sticking the wraps and whatnot and then having to go through
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  and you know, you could just ask an expert like hey what glue
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  sticks best to wraps or something you can.
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  Still do that? You could still do that.
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  I could. I could.
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  And you buy it and you try it or I.
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  Just send it to you so you can make some content.
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  And then, you know, I'll just say, hey, thanks for building my
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  arrows. Here's a pair of free American
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  Eagle jeans and. Yeah, because I don't get paid
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  the money I do get paid in. When Brit comes here, it's going
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  to your grandparents. House.
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  You know, I am kind of like her. Sugar daddy that you would not
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  believe. I don't know how many at home
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  with it all. Yeah, you know.
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  I got a hat, a lighter, a pair of pants, 3 dresses for this
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  trip. I might be.
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  Who got a dress for you? There are a few.
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  I just, you know, I gave up on the dream that there will be a
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  day I fit back in them. And so I'm just passing them
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  along. I think I've worn one of them.
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  Four of them are still brand new.
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  They're all for the same dresses, just all in different
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  colors. So we're we're going to pass
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  them along to a smaller version of myself.
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  Thank you. We may look similar, but we
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  certainly are not very nice. Yeah.
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  So. What a nice.
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  What a nice just a nice bunch right now.
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  I love. We went from arrow building to
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  dress sizing to dress sizing. Watch this.
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  Stuff. I will say this, Welches. 7.2%.
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  Welches great ghost, very good. One of the best.
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  What? Is.
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  This. That's cherry Lime made.
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  Right there Cherry Lime made gives it a run for.
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  Its money. Yeah.
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  Brooks Cafe Coffee. It does.
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  Brooks. Cafe Pumpkin.
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  Also very fire. Very fire.
• 17:12
  Try this one real quick. Oh, yeah.
• 17:14
  OK, hold on. Let me.
• 17:16
  What is this? Pumpkin spice?
• 17:18
  Yeah, I sure I had a seizure when I went to say pumpkin
• 17:20
  spice, but here we go. OK, let me try it.
• 17:22
  It'll go. Let me.
• 17:23
  Flip. Dry out.
• 17:26
  Oh fun. It's so good.
• 17:28
  It is good. Yeah, so do we want to actually
• 17:31
  create a public drinking game for James's phrases?
• 17:34
  I think we should do that. We have like a yeah, I think we
• 17:36
  should do that. Download or click on and print
• 17:37
  off. And have like.
• 17:38
  There's only a handful. There's a.
• 17:40
  Small, I think for Pence I need to make.
• 17:42
  And you got to update it every once in a while.
• 17:43
  Yeah, it. Wouldn't be hard too.
• 17:45
  No, I mean, there's no gonna jump on tan buns.
• 17:47
  Put together a bingo card, whoever.
• 17:49
  Yeah, you could totally do a bingo card.
• 17:52
  Dude. You already got pencils out on
• 17:54
  the course, so all you gotta do is mark your bingo card off too.
• 17:56
  And it would actually be a really fun video because David
• 17:59
  never stops filming, so he could just fill me for an entire
• 18:02
  course nonstop. And then like every time I say
• 18:06
  one, it like puts a Ding on the screen and someone's got to
• 18:09
  like, take a shot or something. You'd be smoked by the end of 15
• 18:12
  minutes. For sure.
• 18:13
  Oh yeah, happy fun bunch if that's your keyword.
• 18:16
  Oh geez, Martha, you're going to be wasting.
• 18:21
  Yeah, yeah, a good group. A good group, yeah, Yeah.
• 18:25
  There's a lot of them, yeah. It's.
• 18:28
  Quite enjoyable. It is very fun.
• 18:30
  Thank you. Yeah.
• 18:32
  Because he's a fun guy. I am, I am.
• 18:34
  What a cozy vibe by the fire last night, huh That.
• 18:37
  Was great. It was, yeah.
• 18:38
  Yeah, hey, let's talk real quick.
• 18:40
  You know, just about how responsible and good of a boy I
• 18:43
  was compared to normal this weekend.
• 18:45
  Was I not pretty good? You have been being a very good
• 18:49
  little boy. I do appreciate it because you
• 18:53
  are a a wild boy. So sometimes, you know, I just
• 18:57
  got a. You didn't even have.
• 19:00
  You didn't even have to reel me in.
• 19:01
  I was just. No, you went to bed before me.
• 19:03
  It was fantastic. Yeah.
• 19:04
  Yeah, Yeah, I'm, I'm maturing. Yes, you.
• 19:07
  Did you're old, Old lady? How old are you?
• 19:10
  25. OK, OK, where did you there's so
• 19:14
  you're like, you know, not in quite the young cool group
• 19:17
  that's over there. That's like our 20 year olds or
• 19:20
  Jack 21. Jack.
• 19:23
  Yeah, 21. You know you're the middle of.
• 19:25
  It right in the middle right now.
• 19:27
  That's good. I love the middle pack.
• 19:29
  Did you, did you go to college for what you do?
• 19:31
  I'm not gonna lie. So James did tell me who you
• 19:34
  were. I do a fairly OK job of like
• 19:38
  watching some content and seeing things that like.
• 19:42
  I'm not sure how you can't follow the archery industry and
• 19:45
  not have known who Ty was. Well, I knew who he was and I
• 19:47
  knew that he had a big social media and whatnot, but I guess I
• 19:50
  just never, yeah. But.
• 19:55
  Then Britney was like, no, he does like really great, like
• 19:57
  cinematic. There's that word, like really
• 20:01
  quality stuff. And I'm like, how have I not
• 20:03
  watched most of his stuff then? Because James knows I differ
• 20:06
  from him. I like your type of stuff.
• 20:09
  Yeah. And James loves the.
• 20:11
  Raw dog. I do.
• 20:13
  Like he likes a little grunge in his life.
• 20:14
  Oh, I love it. Dude, yeah, he might as well.
• 20:17
  White shirt on the front of the camera.
• 20:19
  That would be better. You know.
• 20:21
  But so did you go to college to film?
• 20:24
  Like to do film? So what's?
• 20:27
  Your background So I went to college for four years.
• 20:30
  What's the? Usual standard.
• 20:31
  Yeah, four years in college, but I didn't get my degree.
• 20:34
  So I can technically say I'm a college dropout, but.
• 20:37
  Oh, there you go. Cool.
• 20:38
  Four years and you just didn't get that.
• 20:40
  So I transferred schools my senior year and some of my
• 20:43
  credits didn't roll over. And so I had like 3 or 4 classes
• 20:47
  left and I was actually doing fishing content for three years
• 20:52
  whenever I was in school. So I learned how to use a
• 20:53
  camera. I learned a little bit about
• 20:56
  social media. So what were you working
• 20:57
  towards? A degree.
• 20:58
  In business administration. Oh yeah, I have a partial.
• 21:01
  And. It didn't get me anywhere.
• 21:03
  So school was school and I was like, OK, what am I going to do
• 21:06
  after school? I was like, I need to figure out
• 21:07
  how to make money. Like I guess business degrees
• 21:10
  work corporate and I didn't want to do that.
• 21:14
  So I was like, OK, I know how to make videos and I kind of know
• 21:18
  how to grow an Instagram account.
• 21:20
  So let me go to businesses and see if I can help them do that.
• 21:23
  I grow their Instagram, grow their social media.
• 21:26
  And so I started reaching out to people, offering them free work,
• 21:30
  and one thing kind of led to another and I got connected with
• 21:34
  some really good clients and I started doing like social media
• 21:38
  management, social media marketing, videography.
• 21:42
  And my senior year, I started that halfway through the year.
• 21:48
  And by the end of my senior year, I was making enough to
• 21:50
  where I was like, OK, I could just.
• 21:52
  Do. This.
• 21:53
  I could just do this and not finish up school.
• 21:56
  Yeah. And so I went all in on that.
• 21:59
  And for the last five years I've been like in the social media
• 22:02
  marketing space. And I feel like that has helped
• 22:04
  translate over to my content because I have really good
• 22:08
  cameras. I know how to edit videos.
• 22:10
  I know how to put together. It's people's cameras kind of
• 22:14
  like eye-catching content. So that's kind of how I got into
• 22:18
  it and I've been doing archery content for about 2 1/2 years
• 22:22
  now. But is.
• 22:23
  That how long you've also been shooting.
• 22:24
  No, so I started shooting when I was like 6.
• 22:27
  And so I give a lot of crap on social media actually.
• 22:30
  People are like, oh, you've never haunted in your life?
• 22:32
  But like I started hunting whenever I was 9.
• 22:34
  I killed my first year when I was 9.
• 22:36
  I killed my first deer with a bow whenever I was 12.
• 22:39
  And so I don't post as much hunting content as as I would
• 22:43
  like to, but it's also super like people don't understand how
• 22:46
  hard it is to solo film and. I literally could not imagine.
• 22:51
  Challenging, but I get out there and I'm like, hey, screw the
• 22:55
  cameras, like I just want to enjoy hunting.
• 22:57
  Yeah, at the. End of the day, you want to be
• 22:58
  successful, right? Yeah.
• 22:59
  If you're failing because of that aspect and you know you
• 23:02
  could succeed otherwise, it's hard to say.
• 23:04
  But I need to film this. Yeah.
• 23:06
  I've gone on two different ones where I was like, all right, I'm
• 23:08
  going to film this. And it the kill shot did not get
• 23:11
  filmed. Yep, and that just is what it
• 23:13
  is. Like, as much as you want it.
• 23:15
  Yeah. You know, there are times when I
• 23:16
  just can't keep up with Jay and I'm his filmer, you know, behind
• 23:20
  him. And he's like, Nope, I'm going.
• 23:23
  And he just takes up up the mountains.
• 23:25
  Like if I get there, I get there and get the content.
• 23:27
  If I don't, I don't. But you'll just hear my heavy
• 23:31
  breathing. That is pretty.
• 23:34
  Funny. Yeah, but that is hard.
• 23:36
  But that's cool. You know, I feel like similar
• 23:39
  when I started showing up in James's stuff.
• 23:43
  You know, we did not hunt from a young age.
• 23:45
  Like we're adult hunters. You could call us, I guess,
• 23:48
  onset adult hunters. Onset adult hunters.
• 23:50
  Is that the new? Phrase.
• 23:50
  I always thought that was like a whack little like whack phrase.
• 23:54
  Yeah, but we were like our young 20s.
• 23:56
  It's just. And so I had been hunting and
• 23:58
  shooting for 10 years before I met James or 9.
• 24:04
  And you come on the channel and everybody's like change.
• 24:08
  You're doing a such a good job teaching.
• 24:10
  Her there was a lot of those. A lot.
• 24:12
  A lot of that. In the beginning I was like,
• 24:15
  man, does my form look like shit or something?
• 24:17
  Well, it did in the beginning. Take this over.
• 24:19
  For you, but like they just assumed that you didn't know
• 24:23
  what you were doing and you were new to it and they like
• 24:26
  sometimes your content just doesn't reflect what you do like
• 24:31
  behind the scenes. Yeah.
• 24:33
  I will say one thing though, and that's I would say 90% of people
• 24:39
  who shoot bows. So I would say probably 90% of
• 24:42
  the people here don't know a ton of the technical stuff when it
• 24:46
  comes to a boat building. Arrows, tuning a bow like.
• 24:51
  That Josh raised the same. Yeah, most people don't.
• 24:54
  Yeah, most people don't know. And I'll say I didn't Start
• 24:58
  learning. I didn't learn how to tune a bow
• 25:00
  until two years ago. It was always pick my bow up, go
• 25:03
  shoot. My archery shop would take care
• 25:05
  of any problems I had. And so I think, like, I think
• 25:09
  with that in mind, it's like if you are out there new to
• 25:12
  shooting or you've been shooting for a while and you have no idea
• 25:16
  what any of this stuff is, that's OK.
• 25:17
  I think it's good to learn. Yeah, it's good to know how to
• 25:19
  work. On your bow and stuff, I've
• 25:20
  gotten to the point now where like, if you're talking about
• 25:24
  it, I know what you're talking about on the bow, but could I go
• 25:28
  and do it myself or trust myself to do it myself?
• 25:33
  Let's go over to across the country to this one over here,
• 25:37
  fly up north to this one over here.
• 25:39
  But I think it is good if you can know enough to do it on the
• 25:43
  spot. Like if you land and your bows
• 25:45
  messed up, if you get out on a hunt and you drop it and you
• 25:48
  need to fix something. Like it's important because not
• 25:52
  everybody carries a backup bow with them.
• 25:55
  I don't carry a backup bow with them myself.
• 25:57
  And so if you're out there and you're like, well, my Hunt's
• 26:00
  ruined when you could have just been able to potentially fix it
• 26:03
  yourself. Yeah, well, I think it's the
• 26:05
  biggest Fast forward button basically to get better at
• 26:08
  archery in general. That's understand.
• 26:10
  Your gear, which is why I've tried really hard to get people
• 26:13
  to work on their own stuff and don't be intimidated by it.
• 26:16
  It's not that hard. And making a bunch of videos to
• 26:18
  kind of show you guys too, because those people get better
• 26:21
  at archery quicker than people that don't do that.
• 26:24
  Avoiding it, not understanding when it's going wrong or why
• 26:27
  it's going wrong just leaves you in this state of well no, just
• 26:30
  trust your gear and it's me. There's definitely and that,
• 26:34
  yeah. And if you could understand how
• 26:36
  your boat worked, you would realize it wasn't.
• 26:37
  If you fix it quicker you less afraid to go.
• 26:40
  Just move your site. Don't.
• 26:42
  Don't sit there and go. Amen.
• 26:43
  It's like just move your site, you can move back.
• 26:45
  This less frustrated because like 3 years ago I would do the
• 26:49
  same thing and I'd get frustrated and it the statement
• 26:52
  was just like it's just you. You just got to, you know.
• 26:56
  There's there's definitely I both sides of the argument here.
• 26:59
  A lot of people are like, well, that's what the professionals
• 27:00
  are for. That's what the you know, the
• 27:02
  pro shops are for. But what the what the point
• 27:05
  you're making? Understanding your equipment
• 27:07
  grows your knowledge, makes you a better Archer.
• 27:09
  It doesn't mean that you necessarily have to have your
• 27:11
  own bow shop inside your house. That's not realistic.
• 27:14
  Not everybody has that. But not being afraid to adjust
• 27:18
  your equipment like attack two weeks ago at you know where I
• 27:24
  was bumping my rest in the middle.
• 27:26
  And I would guarantee you'll probably see 180th of the people
• 27:31
  out there who would actually be willing to make that adjustment.
• 27:34
  And when we got back to the cabin, somebody, I won't name
• 27:37
  any names, but said to me, you did what on the course?
• 27:41
  You moved your rest on the course.
• 27:42
  I was like, abso freaking lutely.
• 27:44
  That was not, didn't it wasn't me.
• 27:48
  Just don't be afraid if you know, that's the part.
• 27:50
  Like the worst thing someone can do is not know what they don't
• 27:53
  have. Yeah, I really, I really wish
• 27:54
  there was a way in general or people to go in when they buy
• 27:58
  their boat, actually build it themselves with some assistance.
• 28:01
  Yeah. That would be really sweet.
• 28:02
  It's super time consuming. So that would be hard
• 28:05
  financially to do unless there was like a fee board or
• 28:07
  something involved. Yeah, but it'd be the most
• 28:09
  beneficial thing you could possibly do because you go
• 28:11
  through the process of assembling it and tuning it and
• 28:14
  walking you through it will go. So you would be feel a little
• 28:17
  more comfortable going, hey, maybe this isn't me.
• 28:19
  Maybe it is actually this. I can check it because I did.
• 28:22
  It. Once.
• 28:23
  Right. I mean, that was the the big
• 28:25
  thing from the Oak Immersion camps that we did is everybody
• 28:28
  got to go through rebuilding the bow three times because you had
• 28:31
  three people in your group and you're each rebuilding them and
• 28:33
  you're helping. Yeah.
• 28:34
  And by the time you get through the third time, almost every one
• 28:36
  of them is confident enough to do it themselves.
• 28:38
  Without assistance, Yeah. And then it becomes something
• 28:41
  that's not so scary anymore. And that's, I think the biggest
• 28:44
  part about it is this. It's not something necessarily
• 28:47
  be afraid of if you take a little bit of time to learn what
• 28:51
  you're doing just a little bit. It's terrifying though, if you
• 28:53
  don't know what you're doing and, and it, it throws you into
• 28:57
  a very mental, like a mental spiral almost.
• 29:00
  Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing and you start
• 29:02
  tweaking your bow and you have no idea what you're tweaking and
• 29:05
  you're like, OK, well, I can't even hit the target now.
• 29:07
  Well, that's what making, like, making connections is good for.
• 29:10
  And I'm not talking about everybody's got to go out and
• 29:12
  make, you know, YouTube connections, but, like, just
• 29:15
  make a connection with your local bow shop, you know, so
• 29:17
  you're not afraid to ask for some advice on what you're doing
• 29:20
  when you're working on your own equipment.
• 29:22
  Yeah, because once you know, like, then it's less scary, but
• 29:27
  it is at first. I tell people when they're like,
• 29:29
  I want to get into bow hunting or shooting a bow, I tell them
• 29:32
  the right way. Go to your shop and ask David
• 29:35
  which one all the questions you have, like don't be afraid to
• 29:37
  ask. I think some people are afraid
• 29:39
  to look like a newbie or. Most people are afraid to do
• 29:42
  that. A lot of people would go to like
• 29:44
  say there's a local guy in the area that works on his own stuff
• 29:48
  but he's not a shop. I'm waiting to go ask that
• 29:51
  person advice than they are to walk into the store because they
• 29:53
  don't want nobody. Everybody wants to look stupid.
• 29:55
  The best thing you can possibly do is be willing to look like an
• 29:57
  idiot. I literally go stand behind the
• 29:59
  counter note now, right next to them as they work on the bow.
• 30:02
  Yeah. My experience.
• 30:04
  Some shops I heard. About all.
• 30:05
  This years because I've been building people's bows for
• 30:08
  almost 40 years now. The most beneficial thing it
• 30:11
  taught me is when I walk into something that I don't know, the
• 30:13
  first thing I do is walk up to the person and say treat me like
• 30:15
  I'm an idiot. I don't know what I'm doing and
• 30:17
  I want to learn. It's the best thing you can do.
• 30:20
  Be humble. Don't be afraid to look stupid.
• 30:22
  Got that, James? Just say I am a humble popper.
• 30:25
  Even when I do. Know started from the bottom,
• 30:27
  really. Still tell them treat me like
• 30:28
  I'm stupid and I don't know because I want to really learn
• 30:31
  and there's something I might have missed.
• 30:33
  Even if I feel confident in it that they're going to tell me
• 30:35
  that I'm going to go cool. I get that.
• 30:37
  Because you have to have more of a desire to get better at
• 30:40
  something than to look stupid. Just people wanting to.
• 30:43
  Look stupid so much. Well, we did that video on and
• 30:47
  the virtue when you kind of walk me through it.
• 30:49
  And since then I've never. Seen you look nervous in my life
• 30:51
  other than that. Right, right, right.
• 30:53
  But. Always lose confidence.
• 30:54
  But you look at me like what? Yeah, yeah.
• 30:56
  I'm building my own boat. But I'll tell you something cool
• 30:58
  about it is like from that one time we did that video the other
• 31:03
  day we're at I think it was like Easter or some shit.
• 31:06
  We're at my parents house and my brother's lady wanted to shoot a
• 31:09
  bow. And I was like, well, none of
• 31:11
  these bows would work. And I was like, well, wait a
• 31:13
  minute, my dad's bow is 60 LB limbs.
• 31:16
  I can get her back to where she can pull it and I can just
• 31:19
  change the draw length right there.
• 31:21
  And I changed it to where it fit her and I'd lowered the poundage
• 31:24
  and boom, I got her a bow that was working.
• 31:26
  And I wouldn't have done it. There's no way I would have done
• 31:28
  it had we. Exactly.
• 31:31
  And I was like, it's so easy just to flip the thing around
• 31:33
  and get it 26 inches from 30. And then I just moved it back
• 31:36
  for my dad. But to your point, had we not
• 31:39
  have done that, I wouldn't have done it and she wouldn't have
• 31:41
  been able to shoot that day. So that's a perfect example I
• 31:44
  think of why it's nice. Have some sort of knowledge, you
• 31:47
  know, and yeah, so. Yeah, there's definitely a
• 31:50
  there's such a learning curve increase by doing it.
• 31:53
  It just is, you can watch the people that are willing to do it
• 31:55
  versus not and how much better they get quicker.
• 31:57
  Yeah. So if you really want to get
• 31:59
  good at archery, work on your own stuff, period.
• 32:01
  There's no way around it, which is why I've been saying that as
• 32:03
  long as I have. And it's scary to shops, right?
• 32:05
  They don't want, they're afraid that you're not going to need
• 32:08
  them anymore, right. So they don't want to share
• 32:10
  those things. They don't want to do that.
• 32:11
  It's the complete opposite. If you learn how to work on your
• 32:14
  own stuff and start working on your own stuff, you then become
• 32:17
  the voice of that community for the people who are afraid.
• 32:20
  Oh, go talk to him first. And then you're going to turn
• 32:22
  around, educate him a little bit, and then walk him into the
• 32:25
  store and go, here's where you should be buying your stuff.
• 32:27
  These people will take care of it and know what you're doing.
• 32:29
  Don't be afraid to ask them a question.
• 32:31
  Yeah, it's the fastest way to grow a community, and that's why
• 32:33
  we've grown so much. Yeah, it's just like growing
• 32:36
  reach. Like, you know, growing reach on
• 32:38
  social media. It's the same exact thing.
• 32:40
  You're extending that reach for every person who's working on
• 32:43
  their, their own stuff. Their reach then extends to new
• 32:45
  people who are asking those questions.
• 32:47
  And then they come back to that same shop and then the process
• 32:50
  starts all over for them. And then their reach goes to
• 32:52
  this, you know, community and then so on and so forth.
• 32:55
  And it just is a tumble effect. But they're scared though.
• 32:58
  I don't understand why they're scared because like they're,
• 33:01
  they're never really going to come back in.
• 33:03
  They're going to bring someone new who wants a bow now because
• 33:05
  they they were able to let them play with their bow or whatever.
• 33:09
  When I think that like. When you were talking about.
• 33:12
  You go behind the counter. At your boat shop, your little
• 33:14
  boat. Shop certainly.
• 33:15
  Ask permission, you know. Obviously, yeah, we have a
• 33:17
  different relationship, but so I'll just go behind.
• 33:20
  Our counter and there right there are some shops.
• 33:23
  Yes, you are. Stand right there and watch
• 33:25
  this. I'll come by and Bruce's
• 33:26
  counter. Right, so when we say you know,
• 33:28
  get in there and learn from your boat decks, it doesn't mean just
• 33:31
  walk behind their counters. Most of them are pretty high and
• 33:33
  that's a big no. But like what James did was a
• 33:37
  perfect example of one time 1 experience he had with you
• 33:41
  allowed him to have the knowledge to introduce one more
• 33:44
  person like what Brianna's saying who could introduce like
• 33:47
  they just had a baby, you know, they could introduce their
• 33:50
  child. And when you think about the
• 33:52
  tight niche of the archery community and how that relates
• 33:56
  like to even smaller percentage of hunters because there are a
• 33:58
  lot of Archers who are not hunters and that community when
• 34:03
  it comes to laws, legislations like we need more voters.
• 34:07
  So we need to be encouraging people.
• 34:10
  So the more. James harps on there all the
• 34:12
  time because his channel is geared towards those people.
• 34:15
  You know, like it's not a hunting.
• 34:17
  People and more supporting and encouraging.
• 34:19
  Totally, Yes, Yes, I would say so.
• 34:21
  I get a lot of comments on my social media like, oh, you don't
• 34:25
  hunt? Like stop shooting a bow.
• 34:27
  And I'm like, my goal with my channel isn't to make hunting
• 34:30
  content or to inspire people to hunt.
• 34:33
  All I care about is someone picking up a bow and having a
• 34:35
  good time and going out and shoot, enjoying just shooting a
• 34:39
  bow. And I hunt.
• 34:40
  But that doesn't mean that you have to go hunt.
• 34:42
  You can just pick up a bow and go shoot.
• 34:44
  Like it's the best form of therapy there is in my opinion.
• 34:47
  But. Let's make sure it's a like a
• 34:49
  positive environment, you know? Yeah.
• 34:52
  I totally agree. I mean, I've always been I mean,
• 34:56
  sure, we do have some hunts on the channel, quite a few
• 34:59
  actually, but I've always said like I just want same exact
• 35:02
  thing Ty just said is like, I just want people to have a lot
• 35:06
  of fun, whether or not they choose to hunt because I love to
• 35:09
  just shoot all the time, you know, and I think that it's a
• 35:13
  great hobby and just really good.
• 35:16
  So why not get more people into it and just show that it can be
• 35:19
  a good time? You know, like one of the things
• 35:21
  I think next year I'm going to like, obviously the past year my
• 35:26
  growth strategy has been largely based on collaboration.
• 35:29
  So it kind of really dove into that.
• 35:30
  But next year I think I really want to start doing some like
• 35:33
  more high end competitions indoor, go to reading stuff like
• 35:38
  this Asas maybe, and just be lit because I've heard of those
• 35:42
  people are kind of wet towels. And I'm like, OK, I'll go make
• 35:44
  that shit fun too. You know what?
• 35:46
  I mean, James, if I get disqualified, I might.
• 35:49
  I might, but I'm going to give it a try because, you know, I
• 35:51
  want to. I love to compete #1 and want to
• 35:55
  see what we can do. But I think going in and just
• 35:58
  being an absolute chaotic riot out there would be pretty fun.
• 36:01
  Oh dude, that's so awesome. But we'll see.
• 36:04
  We'll see. But that's in my head what I
• 36:06
  wanna do. It would be so awesome.
• 36:08
  I definitely think that would do well.
• 36:10
  Yeah, I do too. I really do.
• 36:11
  I think that would do really well, yeah.
• 36:12
  And I'm also. I think you're.
• 36:14
  Gonna get less resistance to it than you.
• 36:16
  Think I think so too, but, and another cool part about it is I
• 36:19
  always think of, you know, obviously if I, if I get into
• 36:24
  target really heavy for like a year, it's a whole new audience
• 36:28
  too introduced to the channel, you know, and we did a little
• 36:31
  bit with Paige, obviously brought in a target audience,
• 36:33
  but like to really dive in and do the shoots, I think would be
• 36:37
  pretty sick. So that's like something I'm I'm
• 36:39
  very interested in doing. It would be next level content.
• 36:42
  Yeah, for sure, for sure. It'll just be a raucous dude.
• 36:45
  That's what I want it to be. I want to make you the most
• 36:48
  obnoxious jersey, you know, like it'll have your sponsors on
• 36:52
  there, but like I'm going to put some like also ridiculous stuff
• 36:56
  on there. You know, it's like, I don't
• 36:59
  even know, but it's just going to not make any sense at all
• 37:01
  from the mudflap. Tires, yeah.
• 37:05
  It's just redneck NASCAR is what I'm looking for.
• 37:09
  Oh man, that would be horrible. All my logos and just leather
• 37:13
  patches just all over the outfit is.
• 37:16
  So great. More like a thing across jersey
• 37:19
  with the pants too. You know, like a full Moto.
• 37:23
  People are going to see you walking like what the hell is
• 37:26
  this? That would be.
• 37:28
  Fun. So no umbrella, no chair,
• 37:31
  nothing. David, what time we at probably?
• 37:33
  Will they close the gates? At 3 more minutes, okay.
• 37:37
  There was one thing I wanted to dive in to if we have enough.
• 37:40
  Time, let's say that I think the last subject and then we'll
• 37:43
  close it. Last subject perfect.
• 37:46
  So I think it's I think it's really cool to get around guys
• 37:49
  like you, obviously content creators and stuff.
• 37:51
  That ego is just growing. And I keep blundering me up.
• 37:54
  This is actually supposed to be anti ego, but but so all the
• 37:59
  guys I've hung around with like you, Josh Bomar, like people see
• 38:04
  you guys on camera and they obviously see you as like this
• 38:08
  like celebrity type figure, influencer type figure.
• 38:11
  And when you when you actually get around you guys, it's just
• 38:14
  like hanging out with the boys. And I think a lot of people on
• 38:19
  social media think that guys like you who make awesome videos
• 38:23
  are just oozing to the teeth like with money from social
• 38:26
  media and stuff. And if they don't realize how
• 38:29
  much work goes behind the social media and how little money is
• 38:32
  made behind that all. And so, so, so I just, I wanted
• 38:36
  to bring that up to like shed some, some light on that because
• 38:39
  I think people have these false misconceptions.
• 38:42
  They see all the stuff on social media and think you're making so
• 38:45
  much money from it. And obviously there's a net
• 38:47
  value from having social media like you see a net value to your
• 38:52
  to your archery shops, but you're not, you're not just
• 38:54
  making hundreds of thousands of dollars from your social media.
• 38:57
  Video more on my cameraman than I make on social media.
• 39:02
  Yep, Yep. And that's not accounting for
• 39:04
  all my equipment, all my gear, all the stuff that I test,
• 39:06
  etcetera. And before that, when you were
• 39:09
  editing yourself, you know, like.
• 39:12
  The time that goes into that, yeah.
• 39:13
  What's your time work? Well.
• 39:15
  It's it's a losing proposition if you're just trying to make it
• 39:18
  on that. It is.
• 39:18
  Yeah, yeah. So.
• 39:19
  Oh. She's she's writing.
• 39:21
  Britney is fighting. So I was full bore real estate
• 39:25
  right until last year is when I decided to take the Bow
• 39:31
  Disciples brand full steam, right?
• 39:32
  And I, I didn't like I always make the joke of and I have a
• 39:37
  lot of unpaid staff, which is true.
• 39:39
  And now it's like I'm able to give back to the staff a lot
• 39:42
  more because I never had any money until like recently and
• 39:45
  now I do. But it took like 6 years of
• 39:47
  grinding, editing thousands of videos, growing a website,
• 39:52
  having Brianna help design cool merch, running a cool event,
• 39:57
  partnering with great sponsors, but in an ad revenue.
• 40:01
  Growing is a piece of it that I think a lot of people don't
• 40:03
  acknowledge, but it's a real thing.
• 40:06
  All of those things though add up.
• 40:08
  Like if I only did one of them, I wouldn't make any money.
• 40:12
  But all of them combined can add up to a pretty good total.
• 40:15
  But it's not going to happen overnight.
• 40:17
  I was fully independent for five years.
• 40:19
  I didn't even do like a product sponsorship because my mindset
• 40:23
  all along from my bike riding career was that I wanted to
• 40:27
  build. The brand very large 1st and
• 40:31
  then align with brands that fit what I wanted to do and also
• 40:36
  like the contracts were what I was looking for, you know what I
• 40:39
  mean? So yeah, I think it's I think
• 40:43
  it's a journey and I think that it's definitely possible.
• 40:47
  If I can do it, anyone can do it.
• 40:49
  You know, I mean no one watched our videos for like 4 years
• 40:52
  really and then all with a sudden people started to watch
• 40:56
  them and just connecting with it.
• 40:59
  But there's so much more to it than just pumping out videos.
• 41:02
  But what I will say is that without the videos, none of the
• 41:08
  other stuff works. We don't have an event with 400
• 41:10
  people here without the videos. We don't have a website that
• 41:14
  does good money if we don't do the videos and we definitely
• 41:17
  don't have sponsorships if we don't do the videos.
• 41:19
  So to me, content is always king and I never neglect it.
• 41:24
  So like, I do still to this day edit everything and I mean, I'm
• 41:29
  pumping out usually 2 shorts a day and I post them on TikTok,
• 41:33
  Instagram, Facebook, YouTube +2 full length videos every single
• 41:37
  week and I never stop. Yeah.
• 41:40
  And that's it. There's no secret sauce to it.
• 41:42
  I mean, sure, I think I some people are more blessed with
• 41:45
  maybe a more fun personality to watch or more talent.
• 41:48
  Like that's a real thing. She's sitting.
• 41:51
  She's sitting next to you some. People are good on camera and
• 41:54
  some people. Are yeah, exactly, but like the
• 41:56
  effort and the grind, to Ty's point, it just takes time, but
• 41:59
  it's to me it's worth it. I was gonna I wanted to speak to
• 42:04
  this topic and then you said what you said.
• 42:06
  I was like, well, maybe I won't, but I will in in not exactly to
• 42:12
  the like to speak in the matter of money and confidence, but
• 42:17
  like the character persona that some people perceive when
• 42:20
  they're watching these videos. And like you said it, the videos
• 42:24
  are necessary, but it's like remembering that like because
• 42:29
  I've known some people who have watched your videos and they've
• 42:32
  been like that guy's too much. He's this or that.
• 42:35
  And The thing is that he he is a lot.
• 42:40
  But when you also off camera, like when you're here, he is a
• 42:46
  lot. But but what he's doing is
• 42:48
  giving back. It's growing the community like
• 42:50
  to speak to you as a person. Once I met James for real, Like
• 42:53
  I I Brandon have been dating him for several years, two years
• 42:56
  before I actually met James. She's just getting it away
• 42:59
  constantly. It's a bit.
• 43:00
  We've been running for four years now that nobody knows if
• 43:03
  we're actually together or not. And you just blew it up on
• 43:07
  multiple podcasts. People don't know.
• 43:09
  That no, I think they. Do pretty much at this point,
• 43:11
  but we still get a lot of comments that are like, oh.
• 43:14
  They know now. They know now.
• 43:16
  I certainly hope they knew, but anyways.
• 43:18
  But by the time I finally met James and they actually lived in
• 43:21
  separate houses to give them the illusion back that like James
• 43:26
  was the chillest, like most supportive, encouraging person
• 43:30
  on the course. Like, you know, he's, he's still
• 43:33
  a bottle of energy. He's but that, you know, that's
• 43:36
  just who he is. Like he's still a human being.
• 43:38
  And started to think of people, maybe watch videos and they
• 43:41
  build these people up to be like, you know, can I even
• 43:44
  approach that person like there's, you know, full of money
• 43:46
  and confidence. Like we're still just people.
• 43:49
  Like we're just people out to like, encourage other people and
• 43:52
  be good people. So, and let me, let me add to
• 43:55
  that. Perfect.
• 43:56
  So the reality of that situation for people who are afraid to
• 43:59
  come up and talk to you, right? Well, here's the reality.
• 44:02
  If that person's authentically who they are, they're going to
• 44:05
  want you to come up and talk to them.
• 44:06
  Yep. And you should be able to
• 44:08
  experience that without worry or fear.
• 44:11
  Now, if you come up, go up and talk to somebody and it feels
• 44:13
  awkward to feel like they're trying to leave or they're not
• 44:15
  trying to interact with you, that person is not really who
• 44:17
  they are. And then you learn what that
• 44:18
  person really is, and it'll help benefit who you should be
• 44:21
  looking after, who you should, because we're all authentic
• 44:24
  people. You're out.
• 44:25
  I mean, I don't know Ty, but I'm willing to bet he.
• 44:27
  Is. I think he seems authentic,
• 44:29
  genuinely. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:30
  Because like his contact. Who he is on or off the camera.
• 44:33
  And you all know me. I'm the same guy on and off the
• 44:35
  camera. I'm no different, right?
• 44:37
  So go up and talk to those people.
• 44:39
  That's important. To know who they are better, and
• 44:41
  then you'll have a better idea of who you should be looking up
• 44:43
  to and who you should. For me, for me, that's so that's
• 44:45
  important actually, that's like a big reason why I like to do
• 44:48
  this event and go to TAC because I love to mingle with people and
• 44:51
  that and I know you do too and like you know we're.
• 44:54
  Always the two that people are trying to get to leave.
• 44:55
  Oh, of course, yeah. You can't get me to leave unless
• 44:58
  it's pouring rain and my camera's getting blasted.
• 45:00
  But other than that, yeah. But that was the.
• 45:02
  First time I went to one where we didn't like.
• 45:04
  Hang out for I know. Yeah, I was bummed about it,
• 45:07
  but. Yeah, we did what we did what we
• 45:09
  could, you know? But but yeah, I mean, to me,
• 45:10
  it's so important because I, I have so much respect and I'm so
• 45:15
  grateful to everyone that's supported the channel and the
• 45:20
  brand for all these years that I love to get to mingle in person,
• 45:25
  you know, and to me, that's really important.
• 45:27
  So I will attack. I'll just stand in the vendor
• 45:29
  area and talk to people. And even if I see someone
• 45:32
  looking at me, I can tell they want to talk to me, but they're
• 45:34
  maybe scared I'll just go up to them.
• 45:36
  I was like, I want to make sure I can meet people and you know,
• 45:40
  build an in person connection. Yeah, at the end of the day, the
• 45:43
  content is made for them. Like you're doing all of this
• 45:46
  for those people. Yep.
• 45:48
  And you know what? I hate to just pull an abrupt
• 45:51
  plug, but I'm going to. That almost sounded like I said
• 45:54
  something else. But anyway, we're going to cut
• 45:55
  this pod off Appreciate. I'm a big Thai Jordan fan.
• 45:59
  I can say that now. It's a really cool.
• 46:01
  Name. It's a really cool name.
• 46:02
  I met. I met Thai one time.
• 46:05
  When did I meet you Thai? I met you in last year.
• 46:08
  Last year, attack in Utah. Yeah.
• 46:10
  Yeah. So I met Ty one time, but this
• 46:12
  is the first time we really got to hang out.
• 46:13
  So good guy. Be sure to check him out.
• 46:15
  Of course, Josh Legend as well. And Brittany Jean Outdoors.
• 46:20
  She'll probably change the name here in a couple weeks 13 more
• 46:23
  times. So anyway, you check out our
• 46:24
  videos and Brianna, the the glue that holds it all together.
• 46:28
  Yeah. And we'll see you in the next
• 46:30
  podcast. Appreciate y'all.