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Chief Minister Natasha Fyles on Fannie Bay by-election, anti-social behaviour, ICAC and fuel prices · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: As I mentioned just a little while ago, I'm surprised
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  Speaker 1: that both the COLP and the ALP have put forward
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  Speaker 1: candidates who don't live in the seat of Fanny Bay
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  Speaker 1: as their candidates for the August twenty by election. Now
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  Speaker 1: to me, it seems like a silly thing to do
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  Speaker 1: and makes me question really if either party are serious
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  Speaker 1: about truly representing the electorate. The Chief Minister of the
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  Speaker 1: Northern Trey, Natasha Files, joins me in the studio right now.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Chief Minister, we just see opposition leader very similar questions.
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  Speaker 1: The candidate for Fanny Bay for Labor was announced on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: Brent Kottera. Why have you made a captain's pick to
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  Speaker 1: choose someone who's reportedly a fifth floor staffer, who doesn't
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  Speaker 1: live in the electorate and reportedly the brother.
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  Speaker 3: In law to your chief of staff.
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  Speaker 4: So Brent will be a fantastic member for Fanny Bay.
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  Speaker 4: He'll ensure that the views of Perrap, Fanny Bay, the
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  Speaker 4: Gardens and Ludmiller are represented within government.
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  Speaker 3: Katie.
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  Speaker 4: From time to time, when Paul Henderson ran in Mongouri,
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  Speaker 4: he was actually living in night Cliff and committed to
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  Speaker 4: moving into the electorate if he won. Convat Scarless represented
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  Speaker 4: Casarina living in Nightcliffe for many years, so I can
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  Speaker 4: understand that the thoughts and the sentiment around that, but
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  Speaker 4: I can assure the community that Brent will be a
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  Speaker 4: fantastic representative for them and some of the difficult issues
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  Speaker 4: he won't shy away from that. He's got a strong
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  Speaker 4: record of serving. He served in the army, but he's
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  Speaker 4: also worked in age care, so I believe that he's
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  Speaker 4: got the tenacity and the compassion to represent that community.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, you know, it's one thing for somebody to
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  Speaker 1: live a couple of suburbs away, but my understanding is
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  Speaker 1: that he lives in Palmeston Katie.
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  Speaker 2: He's committed to the community.
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  Speaker 4: He's got four children, so he has been trying to
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  Speaker 4: move into the area. And understand that he's finalizing that.
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  Speaker 4: But what it comes back to, It comes back to
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  Speaker 4: representing the community and ensuring that within government that that
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  Speaker 4: strong voice is heard. And I know there's been a
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  Speaker 4: lot of criticism around Michael, but you know, you have
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  Speaker 4: to think back when we had Karringle Flats, we had
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  Speaker 4: Marina Flats. He's completely redeveloped those he's provided infrastructure into
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  Speaker 4: educational facilities, and that's what it's about being a local member,
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  Speaker 4: is serving on those school or attending.
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  Speaker 2: Those neighborhood meetings. And I believe he'll be a strong
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  Speaker 2: voice to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Did Labor have somebody who lives in the electorate who
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  Speaker 1: actually wanted to run.
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  Speaker 4: So, Katie that there's a process that the party goes through.
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  Speaker 4: Albeit it was very quick in a by election. In
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  Speaker 4: general elections there's more time to it. But he's the
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  Speaker 4: candidate that I believe will best represent the community and
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  Speaker 4: has been endorsed by Labor. So I no, Katie, there's
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  Speaker 4: lots of people that will say I want to pop
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  Speaker 4: my hand up, but when it comes to that point,
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  Speaker 4: it's around finding the best person to represent the community.
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  Speaker 4: And I've outlined why I believe he's got those strengths,
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  Speaker 4: but also you know, going forward, it's something that people
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  Speaker 4: may mention, but then when it comes to the crunch,
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  Speaker 4: they're not necessarily going to do that. But Brent is
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  Speaker 4: a fantastic person and I believe and I was out
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  Speaker 4: with him this morning in the electorate and people are
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  Speaker 4: warmly receiving him, and I think that as the community
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  Speaker 4: gets to know him.
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  Speaker 2: It is a big change. They've had a local member
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  Speaker 2: for fourteen years.
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  Speaker 1: Is he your chief of staff's brother in Laura? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is this nepotism, Katie, It's not nepotism.
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  Speaker 4: The territory is a small place and there's always strange relationships.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, yes, he is that. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to deny that, But that's not what this is about.
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  Speaker 4: It comes back to the point that I believe he
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  Speaker 4: will listen to the community, work with the community, and.
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  Speaker 2: Has that tenacity to represent them.
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  Speaker 1: All right, there is certainly one issue which is no
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  Speaker 1: doubt going to have a big impact in this by election.
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  Speaker 1: It is anti social behavior. We spoke about this just
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  Speaker 1: a short time ago with the opposition letter. We've spoken
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  Speaker 1: about it, honestly so much throughout the year, but it
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  Speaker 1: did really come to a heat on Tuesday afternoon at
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  Speaker 1: Will set the CBD. What immediate steps are you taking
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  Speaker 1: as the chief minister right now to tackle this issue?
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  Speaker 4: So Katie was absolutely appalled with what took place within
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  Speaker 4: that Will Work shopping complex and police have conducted investigation
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  Speaker 4: and made arrests. We've put in place that Public Order
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  Speaker 4: Response unit, so they're working collaboratively with both our councils
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  Speaker 4: and Larochean nation. We've increased biz secure and we're making
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  Speaker 4: sure that police and other non government organizations have the
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  Speaker 4: resources to do their jobs.
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  Speaker 2: That these are difficult issues.
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  Speaker 4: There's not one single solution, but I can absolutely assure territories.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the job's done. I have put in
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  Speaker 4: place those men and I'll continue to work on more.
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  Speaker 1: All those measures were put in place so before this
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  Speaker 1: incident in the CBD, weren't they.
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  Speaker 4: So Katie, for example, the bit Secure, the changes to
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  Speaker 4: that program, yes they were announced a few weeks ago,
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  Speaker 4: but businesses would now be working through that. But these
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  Speaker 4: are complex issues. There's not a single solution. There's different
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  Speaker 4: aspects that we need to keep working on and also
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  Speaker 4: strengthen the resources that we do have.
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  Speaker 1: Is there going to be more police on the beat
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  Speaker 1: or is there is there a push now from the
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  Speaker 1: government from you as the chief Minister to go do
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  Speaker 1: you know what? We actually need to see a greater
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  Speaker 1: police presence in our city.
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  Speaker 4: So in terms of police, they have certainly played an
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  Speaker 4: important role with COVID and they've been impacted in the
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  Speaker 4: last few weeks. We believe that we've probably had our
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  Speaker 4: peak in the recent COVID wave, so hopefully that will
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  Speaker 4: allow more police resources to be out there on the
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  Speaker 4: beat each and every day.
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  Speaker 3: So yes, correct, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: One of the other things that we've spoken about is
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  Speaker 1: whether there should be better lighting. Now. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you've heard much from John Koenig who owns John Johns,
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  Speaker 1: but he'd said, you know, they would like to see
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  Speaker 1: more lighting in the CBD, that there's certain areas where
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  Speaker 1: there just simply isn't enough. We know that antisocial behaviors
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  Speaker 1: across the board, but for the CBD specifically, could there
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  Speaker 1: be more lighting.
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  Speaker 4: Katie, I think that that is a really worthwhile idea
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  Speaker 4: to look into. We know that through security through environmental
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  Speaker 4: design is a deterrent, so making sure that you light
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  Speaker 4: public spaces potentially use CCTV camera. So very happy to
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  Speaker 4: work with City of Darwin, particularly around that CBD mol
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  Speaker 4: area that we're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: All right, now, what about some of these alcohol policies.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously the oppositions out saying that they want the two
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  Speaker 1: kill killometer radius rule to be re loooked at because
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  Speaker 1: it's only allowing police the powers to tip out alcohol.
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  Speaker 3: Do we need to have a rethink about this.
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  Speaker 4: So the opposition have no credibility when it comes to
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  Speaker 4: our core policy. So in the licorrect review of the
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  Speaker 4: nineteen seventy eight Act, it was police themselves that said
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  Speaker 4: that the system was confusing for the community and enforcement.
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  Speaker 4: And so what we have done is under the new Act,
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  Speaker 4: it is still against the law to drink in public
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  Speaker 4: and there is three thresholds for that, Katie.
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  Speaker 1: But so it's a medical response though, rather than a
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  Speaker 1: criminal response.
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  Speaker 3: Is that correct, no, Katie.
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  Speaker 4: So in terms of the two kilometer rule, it is
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  Speaker 4: not permitted to drink within tullu kilometers and police have
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  Speaker 4: a number of doing it. So police do have powers
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  Speaker 4: that they can tip out, they can use a number
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  Speaker 4: of enforcements. You also have areas, Katie, So Darwin, Alie Springs,
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  Speaker 4: Catherine Palmerston, Tenant Creek and the waterfront. It's against the
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  Speaker 4: law there. And also you've got public restricted areas. So
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  Speaker 4: an example of that is nightclif foreshow in the Esplana.
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  Speaker 3: So, I mean the really obvious question.
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  Speaker 1: I know people are going to be yelling at their
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  Speaker 1: radio as while they're listening to this, thinking if it
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  Speaker 1: is against the law to drink within a two kilometer
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  Speaker 1: radius in our CBD from a takeaway outlet. Why is
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  Speaker 1: it happening?
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  Speaker 4: And Katie, that's something that it does frustrate me when
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  Speaker 4: I am moving around the community and I know that
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  Speaker 4: it's an area where people can't drink. And that's around
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  Speaker 4: making sure that we have police out there on the beat,
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  Speaker 4: but also those others Laraki, a Nation City of Darwin
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  Speaker 4: Rangers and Palmerston for that fact, they can also have
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  Speaker 4: powers that they can utilize. So it is complex, but
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  Speaker 4: absolutely acknowledge the community's frustration around grog and they can
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  Speaker 4: be assured that we're not leaving, that we are in
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  Speaker 4: this space and doing as much as we can.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Now, in terms of the BDR, there's plenty of people
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  Speaker 1: saying it needs to be revised, it needs to work better.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, are you going to do something to try and
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  Speaker 3: make it work better?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Katie.
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  Speaker 4: I have been reviewing the band Drinker Register because it
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  Speaker 4: is an important tool. It does block the supply of
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  Speaker 4: alcohol from those that cause harm. There is four pathways
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  Speaker 4: onto the BDR, Police, court, self referral and health. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: I've been working around the health referral because making sure
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  Speaker 4: that clinicians and people in that space understand they refer
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  Speaker 4: across and there's a registrar, so there's checks and balances,
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  Speaker 4: but that if they believe someone will cause harm, that
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  Speaker 4: they should be referred on to the BDR. But yes,
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  Speaker 4: I think the BDR is an important tool that can
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  Speaker 4: be broadened in its growth.
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  Speaker 1: So you don't want it scrapped or you're obviously not
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  Speaker 1: going to scrap it, but you do agree that it
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  Speaker 1: needs to be refined and it needs to work better.
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  Speaker 4: I think we constantly need to look at our alcohol policies.
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  Speaker 4: There's not one single solution, and Katie, it's like a balloon.
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  Speaker 4: And if we put policies and legislation in one area,
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  Speaker 4: we see you know, drinking shift across to another area
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  Speaker 4: and we have to provide resources there. So it's a
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  Speaker 4: difficult issue, but I'm determined to tackle it well.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, look, I think the community again is
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  Speaker 1: screaming out at this point. You know what happened on
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon at will Worth, CBD. If that is not
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  Speaker 1: you know, the low point for this community where we
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  Speaker 1: go all right, something has seriously got a change. Then
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what is because I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I had a senior email me and she said, Katie,
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  Speaker 1: I'm scared to catch the bus to Caserina. I'm scared
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  Speaker 1: to shop there. I am scared to go into the city.
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  Speaker 1: I'm scared to walk on my own.
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  Speaker 3: She said. The only option for me then.
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  Speaker 1: Is to look at whether I need to leave town
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  Speaker 1: because it's not safe for me to be walking around.
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  Speaker 1: You think that's a really sad situation for us to
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  Speaker 1: be in right.
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  Speaker 4: Now, Absolutely, Katie, particularly during Senior's Month, we're celebrating the
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  Speaker 4: importance of having seniors, but that's where the work that
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  Speaker 4: we're doing around having all of our government and non
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  Speaker 4: government organizations, you know, transport security officers, having everyone working
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  Speaker 4: together and fully understanding the powers they have. And that's
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  Speaker 4: why I say, you know, this work is complex and
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  Speaker 4: it is ongoing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I do want to move along because we heard,
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  Speaker 1: obviously towards the end of last week that the former
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  Speaker 1: Chief Minister Michael Gunner rejected a request for information from
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  Speaker 1: the Territories Corruption Watchdog about a serious allegation regarding a
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  Speaker 1: cabinet submission. Now the Independent Commissioner against Corruption, Michael Riches,
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  Speaker 1: made the revelation in that report, which was tabled in
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  Speaker 1: Parliament late on Thursday night, saying that mister Gunner's refusal
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  Speaker 1: was based on an exemption for cabinet documents under the
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  Speaker 1: IKAK Act. Do you think that it's appropriate for the
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  Speaker 1: former Chief Minister to refuse the request from the IKAK
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  Speaker 1: given the fact that the Commissioner has said that it
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  Speaker 1: was a serious allegation relating to the context of a
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  Speaker 1: cabinet submission being edited by a public officer so as
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  Speaker 1: to be misleading as to the true state of affairs.
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  Speaker 4: So, Katie, from the start, I think it's important for
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  Speaker 4: listeners to understand where the government that established an independent
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  Speaker 4: commission are against corruption and it's something that the CLP
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  Speaker 4: fort Hardig.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think everyone knows that, but I think everyone's going,
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  Speaker 1: what's the point in it? If there's things that you
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  Speaker 1: know that then the Chief ministic can go, well, the
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  Speaker 1: former Chief Miinistic can.
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  Speaker 3: Go, oh, well, I'm not going to pass that information.
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  Speaker 4: Ll And so what we are doing is we have
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  Speaker 4: implemented an act that was in twenty seventeen and we
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  Speaker 4: are reviewing that act.
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  Speaker 2: To ensure that they have the legislation to do their job.
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  Speaker 4: But in saying that the cabinet process is something that
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  Speaker 4: does need to be protected, but I think there is
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  Speaker 4: ways in which that you can find a balance that
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  Speaker 4: allows the IC access to the information they need, but
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  Speaker 4: at the same time protects that cabinet in confidence.
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  Speaker 3: Why does it need to be protected?
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  Speaker 4: So Cabinet Katie is a process that we need to
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  Speaker 4: have confidence around that there is privacy. There's many robust
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  Speaker 4: discussions and decisions made, and this is something that the
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  Speaker 4: community around Australia is grappling with the need for governments
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  Speaker 4: to be able to actually work in a manner that
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  Speaker 4: they have confidence that information that they can use, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that privacy be respected, but at the same time balancing
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  Speaker 4: that need for public interest. It's a complex area of
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  Speaker 4: law and it does get very legal in this space.
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  Speaker 3: Will you pass that information onto the KAC Commissioner.
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  Speaker 2: It comes back to the point that I was just making.
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  Speaker 4: So we're reviewing the Act presently and I think there
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  Speaker 4: is ways in which that you can ensure the IKAC
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  Speaker 4: can have an understanding of the information and if they
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  Speaker 4: do need to understand to know that versus if protecting
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  Speaker 4: that cabinet in provo.
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  Speaker 1: Last month in Queens said, we know that the government
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  Speaker 1: there announced that they would release cabinet papers within thirty
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  Speaker 1: days instead of thirty years. In what their premiere and
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  Speaker 1: a Stage of Palichet says is a revolutionary response to
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  Speaker 1: an integrity review which was handed down.
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  Speaker 3: Would you consider doing the same.
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  Speaker 4: Katie, I think that you know, it's a system that's
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  Speaker 4: been in place for many years and has served the territory. Well,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure what the reasoning behind that seductory.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if then there's information that's not coming forward, I
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  Speaker 1: mean even when you look back to the IKAK report
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  Speaker 1: that was done to the grand Stand, there's a whole
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  Speaker 1: heap of information there that couldn't be looked at.
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  Speaker 4: Kat I think it's around reviewing that Act and the
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  Speaker 4: way that the newly established office operates in with contemporary
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  Speaker 4: practice and making sure it meets community expectation, but also
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  Speaker 4: respecting the process of cabinet. So you're ruling it out, Katie,
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  Speaker 4: I think that you know that we've been able to
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  Speaker 4: come up with some solutions, and I think that it's
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  Speaker 4: looking at that Act and providing a pathway where the
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  Speaker 4: ik can have access to some information, but also respecting
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  Speaker 4: that cabinet process. Do you believe that the cabinet can
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  Speaker 4: hand on heart, so that they're truly open and transparent.
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  Speaker 4: That your government can say, hand on heart, you're truly
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  Speaker 4: open and transparent if you're not prepared to do that.
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  Speaker 4: So to me, when you make that statement about being
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  Speaker 4: open and transparent, it's around the basis of the decision
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  Speaker 4: that the decisions are made in the long term interest
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  Speaker 4: of the Northern territory, not the short term interest of
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  Speaker 4: a few.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, I do so, you're not going to do
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing in Queensland. So Katie, we've got a
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  Speaker 1: system here in the territory. We brought in that Act
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  Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen is being reviewed and it's important to
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  Speaker 1: ensure that that legislation does work within the existing processes
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  Speaker 1: of cabinet and legislation. All right, there's a couple of
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  Speaker 1: other things I do very very much want to get
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  Speaker 1: through quite quickly if we can. We know fuel prices,
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  Speaker 1: obviously we've seen these fuel prices go up over the
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  Speaker 1: last few weeks. We know that federally, over the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of days the opposition is calling for the fuel
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  Speaker 1: excise to be continued.
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  Speaker 3: We really have seen that. We're I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: to put it in a polite way. We're being pummeled.
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  Speaker 1: I guess you'd say, over the last couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 1: are those margins, those profit margins over forty cents?
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  Speaker 3: We have seen a little bit of movement. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned this with Kate Warden on Friday during the
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  Speaker 1: week that was in New Zealand. I know that their
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister, Jacindra Durnt came out, are those fuel companies
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  Speaker 1: for a please explain?
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  Speaker 4: Will you do the same, Katie will always do whatever
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  Speaker 4: we can to ensure territorians have the lowest cost of living,
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  Speaker 4: and we know fuel prices are hurting territorians. Some of
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  Speaker 4: the fundamental drivers presently are outside both the territory and
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  Speaker 4: even the Australian government's control.
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  Speaker 2: But in the.
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  Speaker 1: States they have come down a bit. So if you're unleaded,
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  Speaker 1: they've come down a bit. We did speak to an
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  Speaker 1: expert in this space last week. He said that across
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  Speaker 1: the board diesel, you know, everybody is seeing those higher
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  Speaker 1: prices and it shouldn't still be the case, but for unlettered,
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  Speaker 1: for us in the territory, we should.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely be seeing that movement downwards.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Katie, the a Triple c's most recent fuel report,
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  Speaker 4: which is the March quarter and so there is a
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  Speaker 4: slight lag there, but shows for the seventh consecutive quarter
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  Speaker 4: since October twenty twenty, Darwin's fuel margins were lower than
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  Speaker 4: those in the.
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  Speaker 2: Five larger cities. We've got the my Fuel site.
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  Speaker 4: But this is, you know something that is it's complex,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's not straightforward in coming up with a solution,
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  Speaker 4: but whatever we can do to drive down those costs
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: will certainly look at well. Kate Warden said last week
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: that she's prepared to write to the a Triple C
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: again to have them have a look at it. Are
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: you prepared to write to those major petrol companies to
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: ask them to explain their margins?
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, of course, Katie.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I think that you know that we there's factors that
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: are outside government's control, but at the same time we
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: need to have confidence that they are passing on any
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: immediate savings that they do get to the consumer.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Look, I said it right from last week.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: God all is if these reasons why we are higher
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: than the rest of the country at the moment when
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: it comes to unleaded though our terminal gate prices are
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: pretty well in line with those other states. If it's
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: a transport thing or whatever, let us know explain it.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: But you know, I do.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Think that it's really important that you, as the Chief Minister,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: asked and for that explain.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: Of course, and obviously that a Triple C report is
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: there anyway, because you know we're talking about March, it's
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: now August. Is there any way that that data can
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: be provided more efficiently? That would be another question as well.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: All right, so you are going to be asking those
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: petrol companies for a please explain.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Certainly, Katie.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: We'll work with both the as Triple C and also
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: let fuel companies know that they are being watched in
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: the Northern territory.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: All right, that is good to know.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Now I do want to ask we know that it's
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: been a massive weekend obviously at Baranga on the weekend
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: we had politicians here from all over Australia and the
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister obviously announcing a referendum's going to take place,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: asking the question do you support an alteration to the
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Constitution that establishes an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander voice,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Chief Minister?
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Do you?
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: Katie Gama was amazing and if a picture could paint
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: a thousand words. Those photos from the weekend say it all.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I support this.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: It is so important to Indigenous Australians and Indigenous Territorians
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: and to be with garral or unipingu Am for his
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: inspiring words, it was just very moving. I think that
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: it is very important and people need to understand the
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: importance of this. It's not saying we won't focus on
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: service delivery and supporting Indigenous Territorians, but it is recognizing
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: that we need to recognize Indigenous Australians in our constitution.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: And my apologies I did say Baronga rather than Gama.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: They're both amazing festivals.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: But look, I know that.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: There's been some concern rays that you know that this
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: change is going to be, you know, something that sounds
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: as though it's a good thing, but it's going to
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: add an extra layer of you know, of bureaucracy and
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: not actually help those Indigenous voices on the ground.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I think it was appalling words from the leader of
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: the Opposition that we just heard that this is trying
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: to trick people. This is something that Indigenous people have
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: come together in that ulary statement from the heart. They
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: have called for it and it's something that the government
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: has committed and they are doing it at the earliest
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: possible opportunity. It is so important to recognize Indigenous Australians
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: in our constitution and as a government, and I was
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: really proud to share what we've been doing to the
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: festival around local decision making and empowering Indigenous territories.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Well, Chief Minister Natasha Files, we are going to have
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to leave it there. We appreciate your time this morning
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and no doubt talk to you again soon.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Thank thank you.