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Best of Show 12-22 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: I thought one thing we could do here in a
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  Speaker 1: short little segment is celebrate ken Walker and kind of
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  Speaker 1: the big game that he had. Now a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times with a running back, I feel like you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about a big game, like twenty carries two hundred yards.
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  Speaker 1: Well he didn't get twenty carries. He got eleven carries
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  Speaker 1: and and you know what, he have three catches for
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  Speaker 1: another sixty four. But a big game, I mean big
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  Speaker 1: game and a couple of game changing moments and that, Hugh,
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  Speaker 1: did you see anything different about him or did you
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  Speaker 1: see something different about Clint Kubiak and how they got
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  Speaker 1: the ball to him?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would say, yeah, how they got the ball
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  Speaker 2: to him on the screen pass that forty six yarder
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  Speaker 2: in the.
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  Speaker 3: First Yeah, they should do that again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well they faked the boot and then which is
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  Speaker 2: faking the stretch to him and then he kind of
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  Speaker 2: has to be a little bit of an actor slowdown,
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  Speaker 2: like hey, you know, I don't really have the ball,
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  Speaker 2: and then you're faking Sam brawled out out to side
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  Speaker 2: and then a kind of a what's turned off.
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  Speaker 3: The throwback screen?
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  Speaker 2: That was a perfect play design, great call at the
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  Speaker 2: time you get down inside the redsid and you score
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  Speaker 2: a couple of plays later. The touchdown that he had
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the third quarter, that's a play
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  Speaker 2: called duo left. It's a twelve personnel, two tight ends
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  Speaker 2: with the one running back, you're going over the left
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  Speaker 2: guard and you're trying to get a double team there.
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  Speaker 2: So as he goes over the left guard, nice block
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  Speaker 2: by Sindell coming off his perfect timing. The motion had
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  Speaker 2: kind of jammed up the Rams defensive line and the
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  Speaker 2: defensive line who should have been in what's called the
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  Speaker 2: B gap between the guard and the tackle. He on
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  Speaker 2: Bradford kind of tried to jump back into the A gap,
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  Speaker 2: which exposed the B gap. So here's Keneth Walker. He's going, oh,
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  Speaker 2: here I go left guard. What am I seeing? And
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  Speaker 2: then oh no, I'm gonna go off right guard between
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  Speaker 2: right guard and right tackle. And then Cooper Cup the
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  Speaker 2: scheme of we talked about in the summer how Kubiak
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  Speaker 2: likes to have his reduced formation. So so Cooper Cup
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  Speaker 2: was very close to the ball and from that alignment
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  Speaker 2: he was going to try and block not the corner
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  Speaker 2: but the safety. So fundamental football from a Rams perspective
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  Speaker 2: is that corner has to stay outside and not lose
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  Speaker 2: outside leverage. But he sucks in too far into the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the field, and that allowed Walker to bounce.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the part about it that those of us
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  Speaker 2: who are Kenneth Walker advocates are, it's it's your Every
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  Speaker 2: time you give the ball to Kenneth Walker, it's a
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  Speaker 2: roll of the dice that he finds that crease and
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  Speaker 2: then he's the guy who can finish it. He's the
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  Speaker 2: guy who can put the ball in the in the outfield,
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  Speaker 2: like into the to the into the bleachers. That guy
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  Speaker 2: can hit the home run. And you know, the four
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  Speaker 2: to three to five speed that he had coming out
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  Speaker 2: versus Charbonnet was four seven I believe.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a difference.
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  Speaker 2: There's the reason why they take a forty times and
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  Speaker 2: he can just break that down. So and then they
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  Speaker 2: threw a Texas what's called the Texas route, a little
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  Speaker 2: angle where he starts to the right, comes back into
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the field, caught a nice thirteen yard
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  Speaker 2: for completion. And then and then now you asked me,
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  Speaker 2: was there something different that you remember the draw at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the second quarter on third and seventeen
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  Speaker 2: that he got eighteen third and sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: Was it.
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  Speaker 2: That that run was just an incredible effort by him,
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  Speaker 2: incredible display of contact, balance and will to get that
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  Speaker 2: first down. And now Seahawks ended up getting fumbled with cup,
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  Speaker 2: so they didn't get points out of it. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: he certainly was at his best and had his high
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  Speaker 2: best game in the number of years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was kind of a funny moment, I thought.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, typically third and sixteen, it is kind of
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  Speaker 1: all right, live to fight another day, try to punt
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  Speaker 1: the ball, and yet they ended up handing that draw
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  Speaker 1: and the crowd booze, and then he runs for one
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  Speaker 1: more yard than they need and then the crowd cheers.
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  Speaker 3: It was pretty funny.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that angle route or whatever you call it an
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  Speaker 3: angle route, well.
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  Speaker 2: Some people call it an angle route. Texas, Micha would
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  Speaker 2: call it a Texas all the West Coast. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of West Coast offense disciples out there, John Grew, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Andy Reid, you know it. You know it's called the
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  Speaker 2: Texas route or whatever. I used to kill my little
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  Speaker 2: brother with that on Madden Football.
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  Speaker 3: Oh Texas. Oh yeah, yeah, he'd.
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  Speaker 1: Always blitz his middle linebackers and I just throw it
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  Speaker 1: right behind him.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why Clint Kubiak hasn't right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you call that when what's called the hook zone defender,
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  Speaker 2: which is a lot like a second basement or shortstop,
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  Speaker 2: and that those hookszone defenders when they're trying to widen
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  Speaker 2: out real fast to cover the tight ends, and they're
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  Speaker 2: they're to carry you out the analogy, the gap between
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  Speaker 2: the source up and the second baseman get wider than
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  Speaker 2: it should. That's when a play callers should call that
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  Speaker 2: Texas Rock.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense, makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Get them running towards sideline, and then boom, he puts
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  Speaker 1: a swoot in the ground and goes back towards the middle.
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  Speaker 3: It was good play, a good game, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I think everybody's hoping to see more of that because, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the potential's there. I don't know if he gets caught
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  Speaker 1: in the backfield uh and just doesn't get doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a chance to see that crease that he could possibly
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  Speaker 1: exploit or what. But hopefully there's more where that came from.
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  Speaker 1: We'll dive into more of ken Walker and what we
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  Speaker 1: saw and what we're hoping to see in the future.
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  Speaker 1: On the other side, we're gonna have Greg Bell and
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  Speaker 1: some headlines, So stick around here at Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 5: The season in the balance, golf fires, get the one
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  Speaker 5: he didn't get across, but there are flags down, pulls
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  Speaker 5: up in the hayward he goes across. Did they have
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  Speaker 5: a whistle for?
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  Speaker 1: There's so many things on this level that I just
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  Speaker 1: saw could be offensive pass interference?
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  Speaker 3: Actually, and then they actually did score. When did the
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  Speaker 3: whistle get blown? Oh? Too much for me? You go ahead, Jim.
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  Speaker 3: This is like the two point play in Seattle the
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  Speaker 3: other night. Yeah, exactly what's going on here? Let's hear
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  Speaker 3: the call right here? What a major call? Willie on
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  Speaker 3: the field is professional. However, I got a heard number
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  Speaker 3: fourteen on the offense.
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  Speaker 2: My rule that penalty is not enforced and there is
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  Speaker 2: no replay, the game is over.
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  Speaker 4: No whoa OPI number fourteen the gates the penalty, There
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  Speaker 4: is no.
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  Speaker 3: Replay, The game is over. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Sports Radio ninety three point three KGRFM.
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  Speaker 3: I am Buck. There is no Chuck.
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  Speaker 1: We still have Ashley and we got Hugh Breed Love
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  Speaker 1: in for all four hours.
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  Speaker 3: So Merry Christmas to you.
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  Speaker 1: You all have been good apparently that highlight we just
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  Speaker 1: heard there was the end of the game the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: Lions game last night. Crazy the Goaters, as the breed
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  Speaker 1: Love likes to call it. Yeah, probably probably could have
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  Speaker 1: announced it a different way, and I think unless he
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to get them excited, I mean kind of
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  Speaker 1: a crazy the whole PI offensive PI, defensive PI, Like
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  Speaker 1: they don't call a bunch of defensive pis and then
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  Speaker 1: sometimes they call the tiki tak ones and then the
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  Speaker 1: offensive pis don't happen.
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  Speaker 3: A whole heck of a lot. I had read somewhere
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  Speaker 3: last night.
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  Speaker 1: The Lions have two times this season with an offensive
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  Speaker 1: pass interference in the final like thirty seconds of a
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  Speaker 1: game that ended up costing them, and that hasn't happened
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  Speaker 1: to any team in the history of the NFL in
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  Speaker 1: a single season.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it is what it is. They ended up
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  Speaker 3: getting a PI earlier.
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  Speaker 1: In that drive that I was unforethd down that they
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  Speaker 1: would have never gotten to that point hadn't have been called.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I typically don't say one one call
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  Speaker 1: costs you the game. There's so many things that happened
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  Speaker 1: over the course of sixty minutes, but that one was
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  Speaker 1: nuts where am On Rod goes out there, basically runs
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  Speaker 1: right into Jayden Ramsey, kind of knocks him off balance,
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  Speaker 1: cuts back out. Then they stop him basically the one
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  Speaker 1: and I would have thought that they blow the whistle
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  Speaker 1: and it's ford progress stopped, and yet they don't.
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  Speaker 3: He gets pushed back four yards or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Then laterals it and golf picks it up, jumps in
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  Speaker 1: HND zon looks like the game winner or a game tying.
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  Speaker 1: It would have been the game winner, game winning touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: but we saw the flag even before the You saw
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  Speaker 1: the flag come out for the offensive pass interference before
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  Speaker 1: the latteral even happened. But yeah, then the refs come
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  Speaker 1: out and announce it like it was a touchdown on
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  Speaker 1: the field. The crowd goes wild, but there was offensive
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  Speaker 1: pass interference, so the touchdown didn't count and obviously offensive
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  Speaker 1: penalty to end the game.
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  Speaker 3: There is no next play like it would have been
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  Speaker 3: if it was a defensive.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it probably was offensive pass interference, but we've seen.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen more not get called in that regard.
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  Speaker 2: And there was some flopping going on by Jayalen Ramsey
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  Speaker 2: who was in the slot at the time. And then
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  Speaker 2: and then on the game last night, there was a
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  Speaker 2: passing apferance that was not called defensive passing afference, that
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  Speaker 2: was not called the receivers getting tackled.
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  Speaker 3: The ball's halfway.
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  Speaker 2: To its target and he's already getting tackled, and they
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  Speaker 2: don't call that passing afferance.
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  Speaker 3: So I just asked you, do.
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  Speaker 2: You think that there their eyes are better equipped to
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  Speaker 2: see that if they were chasing goats all week, or
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  Speaker 2: if that was the twentieth game that they did, because
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  Speaker 2: they worked, they were full time officials, and they did
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  Speaker 2: virtual reality at a game sped up by twenty five
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  Speaker 2: or thirty percent, so that when they actually got arrived
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they said, wow, this game feels slow because they've trained.
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  Speaker 2: Their eyes to be faster, just like you have in
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  Speaker 2: a batter's box, just like Edgar Martinez has described with
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty mile an hour tennis balls coming
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  Speaker 2: at him and how that helped him.
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  Speaker 3: See, I mean, it's just.
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  Speaker 1: You're appreaching of the choir. You're appreaching of the choir.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a giant fan, but then again, I think
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  Speaker 1: anybody that plays sports typically has a like there's a
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  Speaker 1: negative feeling. Even though I respect them, and it's not
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  Speaker 1: an easy job. I think they're just a negative feeling
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  Speaker 1: because everybody that's played has gotten screwed over by an
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  Speaker 1: official or a referee or an umpire or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: And yet I would think the NFL, the biggest in
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  Speaker 1: all of the land when it comes to sports, would
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  Speaker 1: have full blown, full time officials that are doing all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of training, like you've said before, virtual training where
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  Speaker 1: they're sped up and you've got to try to do
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  Speaker 1: it at a one point five rate that's going to
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  Speaker 1: make you better. I've done the thing that you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about with Eddie Martinez with one hundred and fifty mile
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  Speaker 1: hour tennis balls. You slow that thing back down to
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  Speaker 1: ninety five and it looks like a beach ball coming
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  Speaker 1: in there. You can see every single seam on the
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  Speaker 1: ball because your brain is a pretty amazing thing.
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  Speaker 2: Virtual reality is is done in the military, is done
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  Speaker 2: the race car drivers, is done with pilots. I mean
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  Speaker 2: there are simulators that are multi you know worth, We're
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  Speaker 2: tens and tens of millions, probably over one hundred million
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  Speaker 2: now of simulators for.
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  Speaker 3: Pilots like.
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  Speaker 2: You have a chance you could have every official other
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  Speaker 2: than the head referee. Every official should be under the
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  Speaker 2: age of thirty five because your eyes go first, right, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And they should be flat belly, in incredible physical shape.
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  Speaker 3: And they and if they spent the.
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  Speaker 2: Entire week training their eyes to be fast, that they're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna be perfect, but you could improve their their efficiency,
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  Speaker 2: probably triple the quadruple just by having them full time officials.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what we we typically do headlines here
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  Speaker 1: to start this segment. We're gonna go ahead and say
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  Speaker 1: that that suffices as headline because now we're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: to the one and only Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 3: With the bell tolls.
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  Speaker 6: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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  Speaker 6: Now with plump Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
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  Speaker 6: and b.
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  Speaker 3: G Rag. How you doing. How was your weekend?
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  Speaker 4: Good morning? It was it was quiet, it was family,
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  Speaker 4: it was watching a game or two. It was unique.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there were it was good. No flights back to
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  Speaker 3: Southeast Alaska that you had to worry about. No, it
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  Speaker 3: was great. You go for a bike ride or a hike,
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  Speaker 3: or you did something to benefit your body. I'm sure.
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  Speaker 4: Actually what did I do? I did some weightlifting and oh,
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  Speaker 4: bike riding, Yeah, I did a little bit of that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, good for you. Yeah. Are the kids back for Christmas?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? They are? And that was great and that's what
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  Speaker 4: made it really. We went and saw It's a Wonderful
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  Speaker 4: Life Yesterdays showing up on Capitol Hill at the Northwest
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  Speaker 4: Film Festival and white, all the black and white. Of
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  Speaker 4: course the original it was we do it. It's a family
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  Speaker 4: tradition here. We do it every Christmas. We get all
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  Speaker 4: the bells and friends that want to come and family friends.
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  Speaker 4: And it's such a great film. I mean, agreed, man,
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  Speaker 4: the just reminder of what's really important. I highly recommend
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  Speaker 4: for all the Christmas movies. People ask me what Christmas
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  Speaker 4: Mooh you watch It's a Wonderful Life? Is it reaffirming? Okay,
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  Speaker 4: this is what's all about.
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  Speaker 3: All the bells, all the whistles, everything.
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  Speaker 7: That's all I could think when you said.
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  Speaker 1: That, Ye's so that's what I was thinking to Well,
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  Speaker 1: good I'm glad. I'm glad the whole fan's back, and
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get to enjoy Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: That's the way it's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: Well, a early Christmas present, I suppose for the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: was the Thursday night game. And I don't know for
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  Speaker 1: sure if anybody would have even asked Santa for a
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  Speaker 1: game like that necessarily, but they find themselves in pole
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  Speaker 1: position for the division, which seems like it's probably going
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  Speaker 1: to be pole position for the number one seed at
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  Speaker 1: this point. At this point, did they get to the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the weekend off? And when do they get
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  Speaker 1: back to work because there still is some work to
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  Speaker 1: be done.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there is. They're back tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Let's today.
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  Speaker 4: They're back today, but they won't be on the field today.
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  Speaker 4: McDonald gave them Friday, Saturday, and Sunday off. It's the
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  Speaker 4: great advantage of the Thursday game is the mini bio
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  Speaker 4: comes on the backside. They are going to do it
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  Speaker 4: differently this week. They're going to have their meet today,
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  Speaker 4: they'll have practice on Tuesday and Wednesday. Then they're going
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  Speaker 4: to take Christmas Day off, unusual for an NFL team
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  Speaker 4: for a Sunday game to haves Thursday off into this
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  Speaker 4: Christmas and Mike McDonald is a big believer in the
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  Speaker 4: family and being with family Friday, they'll come back to practice,
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  Speaker 4: then leave after practice to go to Charlotte for the
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  Speaker 4: game against Carolina on Sunday. That Carolina game is one
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  Speaker 4: of the bigger ones the Panthers have had in a
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  Speaker 4: long time. After them beating the Buccaneers yesterday, they're playing
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  Speaker 4: for the NFC self titled that'll be the four seed
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  Speaker 4: whoever wins the South, which is pertinent to the Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: because if Seattle loses one of the next two games,
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  Speaker 4: in particular, if they lose at San Francisco, they go
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  Speaker 4: back down to the five seed. It appears if San
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  Speaker 4: Francisco and the Rams keep winning, so as great as
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  Speaker 4: that Thursday night game was, they're not done yet. The
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks have worked to do here. The San Francisco game
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  Speaker 4: is setting up as the NFC West title game if
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  Speaker 4: the Niners can win tonight at Indianapolis and then beat
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  Speaker 4: Chicago next week, which is of course no state of complete.
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  Speaker 4: The Prayers are playing really well the Packers either night,
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  Speaker 4: but if whoever doesn't win, the NFC West is going
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  Speaker 4: to slide down the five and play the winner of
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  Speaker 4: the NFC South. So all of this stuff, the Panthers,
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  Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, and they could all come back
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  Speaker 4: together again in a couple of weeks. If the Seauks
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  Speaker 4: don't win the division, they could be at Carolina to
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  Speaker 4: begin the NFC Wildcard playoffs. So yeah, as great as that,
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  Speaker 4: when was Theorks aren't done yet? They still got work
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  Speaker 4: to do.
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  Speaker 3: What injury updates do we know from Thursday?
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  Speaker 4: Well, Nicki o'lory Hugh cleared percussion protocol at the stadium
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  Speaker 4: and Mike McDonald's said that had the Rams got in
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  Speaker 4: the ball back, they of course never going to because
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  Speaker 4: they're going to go for two no matter what. But
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  Speaker 4: even wore he could have played the end of that
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  Speaker 4: game if there was one more defensive series. But as
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  Speaker 4: of the weekend, they were still tried to find out
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  Speaker 4: how bad the knee injuries are for Reek Willing and
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  Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant. It didn't sound well. After the game, McDonald
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  Speaker 4: said it doesn't sound season ending for Kobe Bryant, but
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  Speaker 4: left unsaid. So far is their availability for this weekend?
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's good news. Was there anything? Well, as
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: far as the tackle goes. Josh Jones filled in admirably.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I would imagine it was a cross his injury one
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: that people should worry about him possibly not being back
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: this weekend.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Possibly the hamstring. We talked about this last week. Hamstrings
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: this time of year, it's an injury that you'll want
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: to get bring a guy back too soon for him
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: because then you miss him for the rest of the year.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: So I would think he would be one who doesn't
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: practice this week or much practice, and probably be a
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: questionable by the end of the week. But yeah, that
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Charles Cross injury of hamstring injury when now that the
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: sex have clinched the playoffs, they've got to think longer
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: term here on whether they want to bring him back
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: right away.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: All right, go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I'm curious how Mike
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: McDonald feels about the game. And in the following sense,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: you could argue that if there's a matchup between Sean
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: McVay and Mike McDonald, and there's been three of them,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: because we're going to.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Exclude the Week eighteen JV.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Game from a year ago, McDonald got the best of
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: McVeigh in last year's Loom and Field matchup. I mean
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: there were seven to three announced by the Rams. McDonald
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: got the best of McVeigh down in Sofi earlier, you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty yards and the lowest total yards
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: output one hundred and thirty yards passing, and then the
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: lowest total yard output in that game. But then Thursday night, paradoxically,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: certainly McVeigh got the best of McDonald when you consider
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the you know, closest six hundred yards and what have you.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Does McDonald have any comments about any adjustments that he
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: plans or does he take any kind of you make
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: any comments like whoa, I got my ass handed to me?
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I know McVeigh said that about Belichick and the Super
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Bowl that they low the Rams lost a few years back.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Any fallout to the defensive kind of collapse that was
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: there for much of the game.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Yes, well, both mcdone donald and Ernest Jones said that
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: the problem was and I asked both of them why
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: five hundred eighty one yards? They said the main problem
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: was miscommunication between the third and the second levels in
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: pass defense and the pass rush not getting home like
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: it had been. He McDonald went into the game thinking
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: he could do what he did to the Rams last month,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: and most of the rest of the league is get
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: his front four to affect the quarterback enough where he
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: could cover with seven, and they didn't do it. The
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Rams mostly blocked the front four to give Stafford time
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: for deep breaking in routes. How many times did we
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: see Pooka Naku in his two hundred and twenty five
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: yards catch the ball over the middle behind Ernest Jones,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: the mid a linebacker in front of the safeties and corners,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: and it was that area to feel that. Jones and
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: McDonald said they had some miscommunications time and again. So
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I asked, what changed when you had the three consecutive
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: three and outs in the fourth quarter of the defense
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: subtly an uprising after giving up six hundred yards, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: they said it was meshing and getting that miscommunication done
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: and the quarterback having to get off the snot the
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: other thing, get off the ball quickly. The other thing
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Letter Williams pointed out was we stopped Kyrien Williams in
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter so that the third downs were longer,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: so that the pass routes were longer. And as Mike
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: McDonald said, you can't straight rush the quarterback on third
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: and two. It just you can't do it he gets
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: the ball out too quickly, but on third and nine,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Stafford had to hold the ball. They were a lot
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: more third and eight and third nines in the fourth
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: quarter because of their stopping Kyraen Williams, who ended up
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: only with seventy one yards. Williams seventy one yards are
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: rushing Williams. It looked like he was going to start
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: the game getting two hundred yards on the ground the
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: way he was breaking off eight to nine yard runs
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: on first down. So the shorter third downs caused Dafford
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: at the wait longer and the pass ruts got to
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: him more effectively, and thus the passes weren't nearly as
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: accurate and the over the middle got short up. But
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: you can bet the Panther this week with the Bryce
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Young the Niners. Next week, Kyle Shannon is gonna have
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: brought pretty probing the middle deep middle of the Seahawks
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: secondary behind the linebackers, and the question will be whether
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks can get to the quarterback and affect him
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: before they can wait on those longer breaking in routes.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Gee, I mean looking at this point in the season,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I mean this is not I don't think you start
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: talking about sample sizes, you kind of know who everybody is.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Everybody's shown their cards to some degree, and yet across
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the NFL will stick to the NFC in general. But
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: across the NFL it doesn't seem like there's any clear cut,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, we've seen in recent years where
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs look like the undoubtable team to beat,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: or this season, I think the Rams have been in
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that the Seahawks have been in that conversation. They're the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: number one seed at this point in time. Are they
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the most feared team in the NFC or is there
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: someone matchup wise that they should worry about?
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Did the Sea Auction worry about Yeah? I think the
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Sea Oction worry big about the forty nine ers. They've
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: still lost seven of the last eight, and they should
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: also worry about the Rams. And there's a good chance,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: especially if they both keep winning, that their Rams and
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Seahawks could be the NFC title game. We'll find out
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: the next couple weeks whether that game would be in
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Seattle or LA. But the Rams just put five and
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: one up on them, and the Seas have lost seven
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: and last eight games of the forty nine Ers, so
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: including this week this year at the beginning of the season,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: so until for the notice, they've still been conquered by
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: the forty nine ers, and they're going to have to
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: beat San Francisco in week eighteenth to win the division
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: and get the one seed. It appears unless the Niners
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: and Panthers both just fall on their face, and the
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Niners and Rams, the should say both just fall on
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: their faces the next two weeks. So that's my point
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: at the top. They aren't out of the woods yet,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: they aren't even out of the division yet. And if
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: they don't win the next two games, they're on the road,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: and we've talked about what the pass would be three
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: straight road games and where they'd have to go through,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: and so they in a sense would be giving back
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: what they gain by losing by beating the Rams the
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: other night if they lose one of the next two games.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco and the line of scrimmage
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: in particular have owned Seattle. Defensive and offensive lines have
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: just owned them for better part of half six at
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: least half a dozen years.
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: It sounds like I'm just rain clouded this whole segment.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: But the point that the Seahawks got to on Friday
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: was man that last night. That game was unbelievable and
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: we celebrated it, but we're not done. The way to
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: nature this league is you knows is it's wow, that
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: was great? What's next? And I think this is really
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: beneficial to the Seahawks to have the weekend off. There's
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: a natural reset here to get over that game and
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: enjoy it. And now they have a natural reset where
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: they'll go light physically today and get going again tomorrow
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: and Wednesday toward the Panthers. But they would have had
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: a harder time both physically and mentally, had this been
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: a normal five six days between games to go to Carolina.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: They are really going to benefit from getting it just
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: decompressing this past weekend. And when I say they were off,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: they were completely off. I mean it was like gone fishing.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Sign hung at the Seks headquarters. Coaches were home with family,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: players were home. That is going to really help them
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: by the end of this week.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see how they respond.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Obviously after such an emotional win on Thursday, and yet
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: now you got the Panthers coming, and I mean you
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: got to take them seriously.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: They're they're fighting for their division.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And you know, this is a team that's been swept
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: by the Saints this season, and yet just a couple
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago beat the Rams, and so interesting, to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: say the least, how they're going to come out against
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a team that some people might think could be a
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: trap gam or a little bit of a letdown game
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: after what they had. But I appreciate everything you did. Uh,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you again tomorrow.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, Greg, all right, happy, weel thank you.
• 25:00
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• 25:02
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• 25:22
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• 25:24
  Speaker 1: about the Panthers a little bit, whether or not he
• 25:26
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  Speaker 3: but that is the goosebump. I don't know.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Factor is something that we talk about on a regular basis.
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• 26:00
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  Speaker 1: wish we could just sit and listen to it the
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  Speaker 1: whole time, but we do have some stuff to get
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• 26:08
  Speaker 1: We only got about five minutes. And yet I think
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you're the perfect guy to ask your connection there. Over
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the weekend, Kenny Dillingham, the Arizona state head coach, signs
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a five year extension seven and a half million a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: year to stay there. Now he's begging some alum to
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: write him a check for twenty million dollars. See how
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that works out, Kaylin de Boor, I think there was
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: already conversation last week, and we discussed it in our
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: first segment the Kaylin de boor Alabama. That whole thing
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: them winning, I would think kind of cools the conversation
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: of whether or not he would be interested in going
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: or is still in the running for it. He's kind
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: of made it sound like he's not interested. Then again,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you don't know for sure what that means, because coach
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: speak is coach speak. Jed Fish has done his best
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: to say I'm focused on here, I like what I've
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: built here, or whatever, but he hasn't came out flat
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: out and said I'm not going anywhere, and so where
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: is how how much is your radar going off with
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: all of the extenuating circumstances and the fact that Michigan
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a place where he has been connected to before, he's
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: been there before, how much is your radar going off
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: about possibly jed Fish being interested in that?
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Have no doubt that he's interested. Jed Fish is interested.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I think there's some issues with Jaden Delore and some
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: of the issues at Arizona that may prevent Michigan from
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: having enough interest that ultimately he would get the job.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: But there is a report. When you consider the credibility,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I think it is it creates for news here, it's
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: newsworthy for University of Washington fans in my opinion, and
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I have and these are the sources you have to know.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: A guy named Ben Dagra d O g r A.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: He was what's termed a co head of the Creative
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Art Agency with Tom Condon. And if you're an NFL fan,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: you probably heard of Tom Condon. He represents Peyton. He
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: represented Peyton Manning, Eli Mannings, Drew Brees, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Alex Smith, Sam Brad Like. At one point he was
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the highest guy guy. So they they went in Tan
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: together then and he Doagra had RG three, Adrian Peterson,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Patrick Couilliams, Mario Williams, a lot of people you've heard.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: They brought in a guy named Jimmy Sexton. If you're
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: a college football net fan, you know who Jimmy Sexton is.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: He has seven of the top ten coaches. And so
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: there was a point where a portion of the fee
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: that Jimmy Sexton was getting was actually going to Ben Dagra.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the relationship. And Jimmy Sexton has Nick
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Saban Kaylyn de Bord, Steve Starkeys and Lanekiff and James Franklin,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Kirby Smart all right, So so that that would be
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: some of the credentials that might lend to credibility. As
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: something spoken from Ben Dagra. This is from Newsweek magazine.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Now Newsweek obviously has been around a long time. You
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: make your own assessments about their credibility, you know. This
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: is the online version. This is what Ben Dagger was
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: willing to go on record to say to Newsweek about Jedfish.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: He said, he said, I think the guy that that
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: they Michigan will hire is he's Jetfish. Excuse me, and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just guessing. I don't know is j Jedfish from
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Washington quote. I know for a fact that he's been
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: looking for another job. He wanted the Florida job and
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: did and did not get it, and he's very very
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: very interested in the Michigan job.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: End quote. That's three varies. So I think that that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Is a news story. Well I don't see news story,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: but it is a story if given again the credentials
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: of the man who said it. So I don't have
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: any doubt in my mind that Jetfish wants the Michigan job. Yeah,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and if he was offered it, I think he would
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: take it. And so you know, where does that leave Washington.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: We'll see, We'll see does Michigan offer him the job.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I mean at some point, I don't know how far
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: down the.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: List you go. USC went four down to get Pete Carroll.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: He was a fourth choice. So at some point they
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: might say Jeff Fish huh right, yeah, and so that events.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: What's your reaction to that?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: If you if you if you heard that about Dan Lanning,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: that that guy who was who has had business ties
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: with Jimmy Sexton, who is unquestionably the main broker of
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: college coaches, and nobody can dispute that fact that he
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: would be willing to go on the record and say
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Dan Lanning is very, very very interested in the Michigan job.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: And then you know, look, you're not going to parse
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: every word and hold people to every word. But he says,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I know for a fact, for that fact, Fish is
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: looking for another job.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's people that stir stuff up, and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: it's unfortunate if you're a coach that genuinely is like,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go anywhere, and yet you're just
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: your name is added to the list because of your
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: resume and because of where you've been and and all
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: of that stuff. It's unfortunate, and yet it's kind of
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: part of the job. So you're going to just have
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to deal with it, the fact that to you, I
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: don't well the sniff test to me when I everything
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I've heard Jedfish say has been without a doubt stopping
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: short of the line of I'm not going anywhere. I mean,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Dan Lanning has came out and said, I don't want
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: to go anywhere. I flat out used to have, in
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: my opinion, a kind of set of steps that I
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: wanted to go to. I want to be a head coach,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: and then I wanted to go to the NFL, and
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I wanted all this different stuff. He basically came out
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: and said, now that's not to say that I don't
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: take that as gospel written in stone, but it's more
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: it's it's more of a stern answer. I think that
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of people look to see if the grass
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: is greener on the other side of the fence, and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the grass.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Is really darn green here in Eugene, he said, grass
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: is really green in Eugene.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's not saying there is nothing ever that
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: would take me from here. Well, so I don't even
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: think you can say that, but it's close. It's much
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: closer than I'm happy with what we got going on here.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I've put a lot of time and money into things
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: and tried to bring this program up, and yet he's
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: always stopped short of I'm not going anywhere, and understandably so,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: because I don't think. I think that's when you get
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: in troubles when you tell your fan base I have
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: no that I want to go, and then a week later,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: or two weeks later, or two hours later, you jump ship.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Now you've you just lied right to everybody's face. You
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: don't have to do that.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I think the proper way to do it is just
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: give kind of short ended questions that don't necessarily have
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a firm, definitive stopping point.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: My summary, Ashley would be, you know, first of all,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Dan Lanning has made a stronger commedy. He goes he
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: was on a national radio and he said, what's the
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: chance you're going to take the job?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: He goes zero?
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: All right, So he Landing has been willing to make
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: those kind of pronouncements.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: So guess what.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: None of what he has said is binding whatsoever in
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: any arena, not an illegal arena, not contract, nothing, and
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: so he can say whatever he wants if he wants
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: to take another job. He said, well, you know, that's
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: what I was. That's what I thought then when I
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: said it, and it's enough of that. And then he's
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: on you know, Lane Kiffin, you know, hey, that's what
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I thought then, and now I'm the head coach at LSU.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Jetfish is basically, if you summarize and says, hey, I
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: really like Washington.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: I think we've got a bright future. That's it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: But uh, but the idea that that you know, here's
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: a guy that ostensibly is connected and he's and he's
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: saying that, here's a guy that Fish is very very
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: very interested in the Michigan job. That's a story for
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Washington fans. It's a story for Washington fans. I mean
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: that quote and the one right before it. I know
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: for a fact he's been looking for another job. I
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: mean to come on record and say that is that's
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: not something that people here in Seattle should can just overlook. Yeah,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: so all right, we got to get to a break
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: here we got Mike Sando on the other side of this,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: so stick around here.
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  Speaker 6: It's time for our visit with Mike Sando of the
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• 34:51
  Speaker 6: and Bud.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Is that the song like back and Yellow buc and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: that is that similar?
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: But it's not?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, let's say Sandos got there. Yeah, like he's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: a fair he's not a favoritism guy. But anyway, that
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: would be that would be very Pittsburgh if you if
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that was his song that he was coming into. Well, anyways,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. We got another couple of
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: hours here with Hugh and and Chuck's on vacation, so
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. I've taken this as a
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Christmas present that I obviously was good. Sando, you're gonna
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: back me up on that that, uh, you don't have
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to talk to Chuck today and you get to talk
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: to you Millan.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Hey, you know I.
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: Love Schuck, but it's great to throw you and there
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: we go back a long ways and we do on
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: the sideline together watching practice and stuff. So I always
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: enjoy hanging with you. It's good.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're nerds enjoying the uh, the nexus of
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: data crunching and football.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: Oh my god, Mike, we've GPT. Makes it too easy
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: to you. You and I could have a separate conversation.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, Well we'll we'll carry it on. But I'm
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: going to just hit you right now instead of leading
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: you to a story. What's top of mind from from
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: for you coming out of the weekend.
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean went into it with obviously the big
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: Seattle game, but I thought Jacksonville showed something yesterday and
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: you know, exposed a little bit of Denver's defense. So
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: I think that's kind of been a fun year that way,
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: with you know, some of the usual suspects not there,
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: you know. And that's why that's why it feels like
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: there's so many Coach of the Year candidates, because that
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: awards all based on like what was expected versus what happened,
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: you know, and they're just a lot of things that
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: weren't expected as fully. And I thought I thought Jacksonville
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: flexed pretty good in the in the afternoon game yesterday.
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: They really handled Denver and Denver's defense just doesn't look
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: that good to me lately. So I thought that was
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: a big takeaway from yesterday.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Well, me being a big Bronco fan, I'm unfortunately I
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: agree with you that the defense has looked suspect and
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: kind of capable of being picked apart by some short passing,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and then yesterday they they compounded that with some poor
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: tackling after they weren't having guys covered and and so
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: what is it that you're seeing with them in particular
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that is making you kind of feel like maybe this
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: is a paper tiger.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: So since week eleven, they're the twenty ninth rank defense
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: and EPA per play that no one knows that you know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: because you sort of get your own recognizance. We know
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: they're a good defense. They've been good, but Jacksonville's number
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: one since then. So to me, there was a big
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: difference between how they're playing lately. The tackling, for sure,
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: is part of it. I just also think that Denver
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: has been a fine team, but they've they've just not
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: been a really top team. Even though they've won all
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: the games in a row. There their point margin, you know,
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: per victory during their win streak was the lowest for
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: anyone who's ever won that many games in a row.
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: So it's great to win those games, but when you're
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: winning it, like Kansas City found out last year, when
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: you win all the close games, it doesn't last forever,
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: you know. And I think that Denver's just been masked
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: some of their issues by just happened to have pulled
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: out a bunch of games. You can't keep pulling out and.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: In that division, Kansas City, how how much do you
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: see turnover there? Like what kind of changes do you foresee?
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Would you say it's gonna be major changes or is
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: it simply hey, let's get Mahomes knee right and do
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: what we've always done.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Like what do you say?
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: I think they got to be Boulder. I think they
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: have to be a little bit of a Boulder team.
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: You know, they've had the Mahomes magic bullet here, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: it's been enough to even when they didn't have a
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: good defense, or even when they didn't have great receivers,
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: you know, they would still wind up kind of either
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: in the championship Game or the Super Bowl anyway. And
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: I think when that happens, it's easy to just keep,
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: you know, coming back somewhat the same. The times that
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: they've really reacted strongly was when they got embarrassed.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: I think that happened to them with their offensive line
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: against Tampa Bay and the super Bowl. They came back
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: with basically a new line. You know, last year they
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: got blown out by the Eagles and the Super Bowl
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: to me didn't make you know, the big moves. But
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: I think you've got to look around that division going Okay,
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: I mean the Chargers are just sort of playing their
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: fifth and six tackles and they've won eleven games. Uh,
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: you know, Denver looks like they're going to be at
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: least a paint in the butt for you know, for
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: you So I think they've got to. I think they've
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: got to. You know, they may get a top ten
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: pick this year, so that could help them. But how
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: do you use it? How do you maneuver around? Can
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: you get multiple players?
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: I think we've seen Seattle do that nicely, and they
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: traded DK Metcalf, they got him and worry out of it.
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: You know, they've they've been you know, making the Shaheed
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: type moves. I think they've got to get more active
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: in Kansas City and not just take that passive income
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: of Patrick Mahomes.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. It does. They did not
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: look good, uh yesterday, That's for sure.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: And yet I don't think anybody necessarily expected them to
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: coming off of the fact that they got eliminated for
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the first time and Mames is on the sidelines and
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: whatnot in the NFC. Uh, you know, at this point,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: basically the Seahawks sit in pole position kind of controlling
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: their own destiny. They earned it in the way in
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: which they came back in the fourth quarter on Thursday.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Would you, right now, would you put the moniker on
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: them as the best team in the NFL?
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think that's fair, you know, I know,
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: do I think that they if they played the Rams
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: three times they would win two of them. I don't know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: maygo they might, but I feel like the Rams are
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: right there too with them, I don't think, you know.
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: I mean, they were up thirty to fourteen on Seattle.
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: They picked them off four times in the game before,
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: So I think that one's going to be decided a
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: third time, and I like Seattle's chances. It'll probably be
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: in Seattle. But I don't think it's like, you know,
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: unanimous best team in the league. I think they're up there.
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: I think I think Jacksonville has made a move to
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: get into that realm as well.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Let's stay close to home in that regard. You know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: if I had.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: An MVP excuse me, Coach of the Year vote, let
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: me say that again, Coach of the Year vote, I
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: would look at the playoff teams and I would say,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: there is there something conspicuous about the challenges that had
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: to be overcome with injuries? Particularly is there something at
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the quarterback position? And the forty nine or nobody has
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: had to deal with injuries, including at the quarterback position
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: like Kyle Shanahan, and it's just crazy.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: You feel like they're at some point they are.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Going to fall off. They have not fallen fallen off.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: They could still be the number one seed. What do
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you make of down there? And who who should be
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: year front runner for Coach of the Year.
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean if the forty nine ers, you know,
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: win and get to eleven wins here, I mean, I think,
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: you know, that's important for the Kyle Shanahan campaign, and
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: I have pretty much thought it would. You know, Vrabel
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: was probably the most deserving simply because when they came
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: into the season, a lot of people were thinking of
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: them as a bottom three or four team in the AFC.
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: So they've been and you know, right near the top
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: or at the top. I think that would be my
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: probably my favorite. But here's the thing about the forty
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: nine ers I've heard about this last week. They are
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: a touchdown better per game on special teams and that
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: is a huge, uncontrollable thing. Like where you're making your kicks.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: They've made like their first twenty five field goals of
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: the year. The other teams are missing. There's a lot
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: of hidden stuff in there that helps you win these
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: games when you've got guys hurt. So I feel like
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: at various times this season they've sort of had two
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: of the three phases going well enough to win. And
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: if that special teams thing goes away, I think I
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: think they'll have a hard time winning. And so that's
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: my only thing in the back of my mind is
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: like when you're a touchdown better than you were last
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: year in those plays because you're never missing field goals,
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: your opponents are missing some you know, some of the
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: return game stuff. I think that stuff comes and goes
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: a little bit. So I think it's prop them up
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: a little bit and doesn't take anything away from Kyle Shanahan,
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: but like that's a huge factor and we saw it
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: for the Rams. They're at the other extreme. They're like
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: a bottom five special teams teams there, and that's that's
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: the only way they can lose. When you're up thirty
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: to fourteen, you have to have a touchdown drive on
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: a return that doesn't take any time.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Mike Sander with us, Mike, you Andvite we've compared notes
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: on Excel and crunching numbers, but special teams doesn't always
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: get people's interests nor mind. But you just made a
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: hell of a comment there that the forty nine ers
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: are getting a touchdown a game advantage in special teams?
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: How do you arrive at that? Just like, yeah, illuminate
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: our listeners.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: What does that mean?
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: So the way you can measure that is that basically
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: there's an expectation for which team is going to score
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: next and how many points on every play? Right, So
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: if you have apa so if you have first down
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: and goal at the one yard line and and you
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: punch it in, you know that that one play doesn't
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: give you the six points, right because because first and goal.
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: Anyone's going to score from there. If you have a
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: score touchdown from your own one yard line, I mean
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: you might the EPA might be a you know, ten
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: or twelve point swing depending on the down and distance
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: on it, just because that's six.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Do you know pick six last year was like negative
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: twelve twelve and a half.
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, right, So if you are so on special teams,
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: the way that works is, you know, if you uh,
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: let's just take this the Shaheed return against the Rams,
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: that play added about five plus points to the expectation
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: and that goes in the special team's column. So that's
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: a five EPA play. We all understand that. I mean
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: because when you're getting when you're getting that, when they're
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: learning up to punch and you're gonna get the ball
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: with decent field position, that probably carries some expectation for
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: scoring on your next drive, right, I mean, maybe it's
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: a point or two, but when you run it all
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: the way back in, it's like, that's five points and
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: that goes directly to the special team. So we can
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: parse it out that way. And when you do that
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: on a play by play basis, you get some real
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: extreme things. By the end of the year where the
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: Rams are super bad and the ford Nits are super good.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Well, the last year actually number one for a few
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: weeks ago when the Rams were thirty second.
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and so you know what does that mean, Well,
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: it means Shahid returns it for five points you weren't
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: expecting to get. And you know that. To me, the
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: special teams component is sometimes it is a reflection of
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: like your overall mentality or your roster. Like I feel
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: like the Legion of Boom era Seahawks. You know they
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: had Earl Thomas and Trichia Sherman playing on special teams.
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: You're you're just kicking button. That's pretty sustainable to be
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: an awesome special teams group when you have a lot
• 45:43
  Speaker 8: of guys like that that are Hall of famers or
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: you know those guys playing on special teams. But for
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: most teams in this day and age, a lot of
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: it's driven by the kicker. And we know, we all
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: know that if your kicker goes cold, you're screwed. You
• 45:55
  Speaker 8: just get a new one. There's no coach who comes
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: out to practice and says, hey, keep your left farm
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: straight in the backswing right, and then you get fixed.
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: These guys go off the rails and you don't hear
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: from them again, and then they come back and they're
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: hot for a year.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: So the forty nine ers get Eddie Panero after they
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: use a third round pick on Jake Moody and he
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: bombed out. They'll ride Panero until he becomes Jake Moody, right.
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: And so that's the volatility of this and that's what
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: the Rams are at. They're kicking. They're kicker right now.
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: You know, They've got a guy that they brought in
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: through the year. He looks like Craig Tarrell out there,
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: you know, playing for Seahawk fans, you know. And it's
• 46:29
  Speaker 8: just like that's the nature of special teams for most
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: of these teams. Now, Seattle does have a little bit
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: of a I think Seattle's got some kind of vinegar
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: to their roster. Like they got some of these guys
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: and they got a mentality about them that I think shows.
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: But if you don't have Shaheed just to take it
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: all away, then you don't get that play right.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Right, Sando, this is gonna be a in the maybe
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: a hot button topic. I mean, DK Metcalf, I'm sure
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: you saw that whole thing I mean, yeah, the dude
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: is an absolute beast when it comes to what he's
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: capable of. And yet there's times where you're like, what
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: are you thinking? That's another one yesterday where he ends
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: up kind of trying to take a swipe and a fan.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: That's got to be they're gonna suspend him for that,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you imagine?
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I would think so.
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: Now I've heard some people say, hey, a lot of
• 47:15
  Speaker 8: times that's a that type of thing's a fine or whatever.
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: I don't I don't know what's going to happen in
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: the league. You can't always figure him out, but I
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: would think you got to draw a pretty hard line
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: there right against making contact with or threatening man or
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: to a fan. I think it's a would be a
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: positive thing for the league if there was a high
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: price right here in the playoffs stretch, just because players.
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: Everyone's got to know, that's a that's a no no.
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: You know, that's that's messing with things, you know, the
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: brand and the and the way people feel about the league.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know another thing, Green Bay, what's what's
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: going on with Jordan Love there?
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: What what do you make of that?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Of course, Michael Parsons, they made the big acquisition. He's
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: out for the year. But that's another team that you
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: know that they're right now they're the last wild card entrant.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: But what's your assessment of them.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so.
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: A couple of things. One, the context of that division
• 48:12
  Speaker 8: has changed, you know, I just Ben Jonson's got it going.
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: They've got some I mean, Dan Campbell, they're having their issues,
• 48:17
  Speaker 8: but he sort of has an ethos to them. I
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: feel like there's some teams in that division who have
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: liked their head coach as much or more as green
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: Bay likes. There's and get more personality from their guy
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: that Green Bay does. That's an interesting big picture thing
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: to me when you talk about the totality of the team.
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: I think their roster's been great, but they've been super young,
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: and I think you get inconsistency with that. Now you
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: take away you know, Michael Parsons, I think that's huge
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: because they've always been this team. I don't care, you know,
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: if it was Rogers or far now Jordan Love where there.
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: They're vitals on offense when their quarterbacks healthy are really good.
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: But there's always something in the defense, or the and
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: or the special teams that comes up to bite him,
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: and I feel like that's still their team.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: You know, we saw it.
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: They had an onside kick. It's impossible to recover an
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: onside kick nowadays, guys, right, I mean they wand up
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: for an onside kick. You're like, yeah, I'm gonna go
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: take a bathroom break. It's just like a little and
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: who gets it on him? If you had to pick
• 49:15
  Speaker 8: one team before this weekend, who would allow an onside
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: kick recovery to help lose the game.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: You'd pick Green Bay.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: We've seen it happen before, and it's like, to me,
• 49:24
  Speaker 8: there's there's some issue with that, with the roster construction.
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: They've tried, hiring a good special teams coach all of that.
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: Is it a mentality, a roster construction, a combination of
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: those things. Matt Lafleur just made it sound like, hey,
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: it's bad luck. Couple of special teams plays. You know,
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: they were sort of poking around if he was gonna,
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: you know, make a change like Sean McVay did and
• 49:43
  Speaker 8: fire the coach. But it's always something with them.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: To me, yeah, it does like it did feel like
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: it's always something with them. All right, I got one
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: more for you before we got a break. If you
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: got a vote MVP, who's your MVP of the league
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: at this point?
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I think it's probably I do have
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: a vote, you know, but I think Stafford's had a
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: really great season. Now, you know, he doesn't have a
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: lot of the rushing production, but to me, that's almost
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: more impressive when you've got to do it all with
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: your arm I think he's been outstanding. I think they've
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: been probably the most consistent offense in the league this year. So,
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: you know, I have thought that Drake May and even
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: at different times Josh Allen have a case for that.
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: But to me, Stafford's probably the leader in the clubhouse.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine too. I was Drake May with
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: the way he was playing last night, and I mean
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: it just seems odd to me. This season seems weird
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: where there's all these teams that are twelve eleven, you know,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: even ten wins, and yet nobody's really kind of just
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: surfaced as the clear cut favorite, even though maybe the
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Rams have been the one that have done it the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: most and they got the biggest name at quarterback.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's where I would be. So I'm with you
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: on that. Well, thanks, Missando. I appreciate you. Got any
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: fun plans for Christmas?
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: We do. Yeah, we're gonna have you know, now that
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: our boys are older, you know, there's work schedules involved
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: and all kinds of stuff, but we've got it all
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: figured out. We're going to have family together and uh
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: uh b looking forward to it. This is a is
• 51:10
  Speaker 8: just a great week. And and for an end season
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: work week, it's a great week. Things change, you know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: there's people aren't in the office.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: It's it's nice. All right.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I got the inside track. I was talking to
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Santa for my own kids, and he said, you were
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: good this year, so you should get whatever it was
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that you sent to him on your list.
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: That's a great I thought you were saying I was
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: good this year. I mean, I don't get anything because
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: I'm you're good. You know you're good. You don't need anything.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't care how old we get.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: We still need Santa to hook us up, right if
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: we were good boys and girls. So yeah, you were,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: he gave he gave actually two thumbs up, said Sanda.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely on the nice list. So so congratulations
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: on that and enjoy your Christmas. And enjoy your family man,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next week.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, appreciate it, Thank you, Thanks Mike, Merry Christmas.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: All right, there's Mike Sando. It's our segment Mike Sandal,
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  Speaker 1: get on the horn, and Paul Hunts.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Is that it? That's it, that's it. That's the only horn.
• 52:14
  Speaker 8: Oh, yours is Betters.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I got howl horn sounded Viking hornish? Which I got
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: a Viking Viking? Did it sound Viking horn?
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: It did. That's on a ship on a foggy morning.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: And when I'm looking at you do it doing it? Yeah,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: I'm taking back about twelve hundred years.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't normally, we don't normally do this zoom thing.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: And I'm realizing doing this thing. You look great, Hugh,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: But I have a lot of white in my beard nowadays.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: It's the lighting.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Is that what it is?
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Lighting? They say the camera ads twenty pounds. It adds
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: twenty years to me.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: So anyway, all right, on the other side of the
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: break here we're going to dive into we dove into
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: in our first segment a little bit about this, but
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get Hughes take a little bit more on
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: the college football playoffs.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: So next, it's Sports Radio ninety three point three kg
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: r f F the bell.
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: There was a lot.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of halls being decked right there.
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: I couldn't even tell you who sings that one because
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: it was just a generic one on the thing we're
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: allowed to use and play everywhere.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: That's a lot. They didn't do a bad job with that, No,
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: I mean I don't.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I don't really have a I don't have the same
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: list that Hume Millan does. By the way, welcome back
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: to the show. We got Humil and sitting in for
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: us today and and bringing you know, deck in the halls,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: uh with us and and and he'll break down all
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: kinds of Christmas music. I don't really have that. I
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: just kind of like it all when it's when it's
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: time to be played, and then I don't like any
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: of it when it's not time to be played.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: But is it time to be played all through December?
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say yeah, I would say, you can
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: even start after Thanksgiving. I just basically, I don't know
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: for sure if you know this or not. I do
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: a show with two people that are very premature on
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: their celebration and at times overly overly celebratory on certain things.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: You know how Chuck is with the draft, to the
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: point that even calls it draft. Miss, It's not a holiday,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: It's just a draft, and it's a cool draft. Yeah,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: you think holiday as well? Yeah, well, maybe maybe I'm
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: wrong then. I mean, if everybody else loves it, maybe
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, But I'm gonna stay in my wrong lane.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I think that Christmas stuff happens after Thanksgiving, not before Thanksgiving.
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: That's the way that I feel like I'm getting really
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: lumped in here because I did not put up a
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: Christmas tree until the day after Thanksgiving.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I didn't put up a single Christmas ornament.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: This day after abnormal for you? Yeah, yes, typically you
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: put it up in like November. Sometimes, Yes, so you
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: you have lumped yourself in there. Okay, I'll give you
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: credit for holding off until the proper time. Hugh, when
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: did you put yours in? Did you put your Christmas
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: tree up before?
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I've always been got to be after Thanksgi. This is
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: the first No, this is the first year. It was
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: a late Thanksgiving, and I'm like, and my wife wanted
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: to put it up. I'm like, hey, A, choose your battles.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't want to.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I just defer and then b Actually, I kind of
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: liked the idea. I like the tree and so okay,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, so I'm worth work icon of classic all
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: around the mill at home this okay?
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well you know what else is you got for Christmas?
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: President as you got the college football playoffs and so
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: we did get our first round games in. I'm not
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: gonna lead you anywhere in particular other than the idea
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: of James Madison versus Oregon holding their own ish against
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: the backups or the guys that Oregon brought in after
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: it kind of got out of hand and Tulane you
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: got absolutely whooped up abound it. Do you like the
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: way in which these guys had their opportunity on the
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: big stage.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't like the competition any more than anybody
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: else does. I'm I'm you know, I've got my text
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: blowing up, and I agree with everybody.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, I would have much rather.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Seen Notre Dame or Texas in those games. But to me,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I just I look at the college football playoff and
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: if they were to try to eliminate group of five
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: teams you're talking about that is anti competitive collusion, which
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: is a red flag and anti trust court. And the
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: NCAA has already grossly miscalculated and got horrible legal advice
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: in the Allston versus NCAA. Basically that was just pedly
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: little education related compensation like laptops.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Or computers or musical instruments for music majors, like little
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Piddley stuff.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: And Alston wanted the NCAA should have just left well
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: enough alone. But the NCAA appealed it to the appellate court,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: they lost again, and then the NCAAAA appealed it to
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court where they lost nine to nothing. So
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: those facts alone should convince you of my claim that
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: they got horrible legal advice. Well, what was the consequence
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: all the things you don't like about college football, the nil,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: rampant transferring, revenue sharing, all those things that many fans
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: don't like about it. It was all because the amateurism
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: argument got knocked out by the Supreme Court. And so
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: now on anti trust grounds. Let me repeat that on
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: anti trust grounds. So you want to miscalculate again, and
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: you want to let the group of five bring up
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: a class action suit or a coordinated suit against the
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: college Football Playoff and the power forward. What you could
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: have is a situation where you federal court mandates a
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: total restructuring and greater inclusion. How about not two of
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: those games, but five or six of those games. How
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: about revenue distribution, how about triple damages on any financial injury.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: So I just think I would tell my friends, and
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I did that for me. The best way to handle it.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: It's not a twelve team playoff. We used to have
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: no playoff. Nineteen eighty four, Washington Huskies lost eleven sixty
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: to eleven forty to BYU and it was a closest
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: vote from a percentage of the second team to the
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: first team. Who's the closest vote in the history of
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the AP And the only one that surpassed that in
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: terms of close vote was Washington versus Miami seven years later.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: But at least Washington won half of the title in
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: that one. So then we went to a two team,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: So we went from noe teams to a two team BCS.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Then we went to a fourteen and that was better, right,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: A two teams BCS was better than just voting. And
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: then a four team playoff was better than the two
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: team BCS. And now we have a twelve team playoff.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, not so fast.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: We don't have a twelve team playoff. We have a
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: ten team playoff. We have a ten team playoff. Plus
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: cover your ass and JMU and Tulane, or cover your ass,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: make sure you don't land in anti trust court. Just
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: think of it as a ten. It will probably be
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: it twelve or fourteen or sixteen soon, but ten is
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: better than four. And think of it like this, and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I can say it real simple. Oregon and Ole Miss
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: gotta buy and they chose to scrimmage, just like when
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Mike Tyson is gonna have a fight, he has a
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: sparring partner. They just chose to have a sparring partner
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: a scrimmage against JMU and Tulane. That's the best way
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: that I would advise to think of it, because I
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: don't like the competition either, but I also don't want
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: to have six of these games and all the other
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: consequences that could come down. So that's my take on
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: those two teams involved.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm with you, and for what it's worth.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I mean me coming from like a small school of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: an AIA school that I'll go to my grave with
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: the idea of I would have loved to have played
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: l Shoes who won the college national championship. I would
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: have loved to have played them, had a chance to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: see now, they might have whipped us. I don't think
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: they necessarily would have whipped us, but they might have
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: beat us. And typically that's the way that it would
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: be is the underdogs, these small, smaller schools are not
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: going to match up against the big dogs, especially now
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: with the guys getting paid the way that they are.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: And yet I want to give them a chance. I
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: just don't necessarily want to come at the in a
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: way in which it is right now. Where a couple
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: of teams basically, if you had lucked out and got
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: the five seed or the six seed, you end up
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: getting to buy and and you know, some of the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: other teams have tough matchups. Alabama didn't have a cake
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: walk and neither did the Miami Texas A and M game.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Well, we talked about Alabama and Oklahoma. Just touching briefly,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: we're up against the break. You know, one thing that
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: the Miami Texas A and M game was I thought
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: a really good game. Obviously a defensive struggle. Miami missed
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of field goals where they could have extended
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: the score. But on the other hand, an M they
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: had almost double the first downs, they had more than
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: double the passing yards, they had twenty six more plays,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: more time of possession, Miami controlled the line of scrimmage.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: But that game could have gone anywhere.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: But I will want to say, you know, the people
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: are going to say SEC versus the other conferences, Just
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: keep this in mind. ACC had one team in the playoff, Miami.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: They were playing the number three ranked team. But go
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: look at the seedings of the college football Playoff. The
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: text A and M was the third SEC. So I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: know there'll be conclusions drawn at the end and along
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: the way about how the conferences are doing, but just
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: keep that in mind. That was SEC number three losing
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: to ACC number one in a game that went down
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: to the fifty ninth minute.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean I think that the argument.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's an argument if the SEC is
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: a better conference than most.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Of the others, and on any given year, this year
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: might be another one. Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Well, the Big Ten could say, well, we won the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: national championship, national championship last year and we got the
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: number one and two teams this year. They could say, well,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: we're better, but top to bottom their top I don't think. Yeah,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think that the I don't think there's very
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: much argument.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Three.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think the argument of which conference is
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: better from top to bottom is really even an argument.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: In Texas A and M being the third team out
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: of the SEC kind of just almost proves that point
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: to some degree.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: And yet I think if you took the top three
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: teams in the Big Ten, they'd be the best because
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: I think you'd have Indiana, Ohio, Satean Oregon. I think
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: that they'd be the better than the top three even
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: of the SEC. Then it might be it might be comparable.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: But if you start going down to look LSU is
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: the tenth number ten team in the SEC. If LSU
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: is your tenth best team, I mean, think of the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: teams from the SEC that didn't make the player they
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: had five teams in the playoffs, and think of the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: ones that didn't make it. Texas, Yeah, Vanderbilt, Zuri, LSU like,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: uh uh, you start getting into the middle and down
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: at the bottom. Even Arkansas they could drop five hundred
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: yards on your ass. Mississippi State looked like the dregs
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: of the SEC are a lot better than the dregs
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: of the other conferences. So so maybe not quite as
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: top heavy, but but the depth of the conference, I
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: don't think it's there's any comparison.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: SEC is the number one conference in football one hundred percent.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: On the other side of the break, we're gonna dive
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: into something. I want to get huge perspective on whether
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: or not this is a concern should be yes, no, maybe,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: So stick around here at Sports Radio ninety three point
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: three KJRFM. Well, well, well, welcome back to the show.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Final hour of the show. No Chuck, he's he's up,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: probably at the Winter Poll. I would imagine helping rap presence,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: or I don't know, he may be cleaning out the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: reindeer stalls. I'm not sure exactly what he's doing, but
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: he deserves some time off. He's getting today and tomorrow off.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: So it's Ashley and I and we got Hugh Millan
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: in today, which is great because typically on typically on Mondays,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: we end up doing Coach Bucky. Well, I can't. I'm
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: not going to ask myself questions that would be stupid.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: So instead we're gonna change it up. And it's not
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Coach Hugh, it's not Coach Miller. It's Coach Breedlove. Because
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's maybe the greatest middle name in the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: history of middle name. And I know it's a family name, right,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: is it Grandma's Yeah, And I'm sure growing up with
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: that middle name there was probably some teasing going on.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: But as we grow, like as a redheaded, freckle face
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: kid with the name that rhyme's with sucky and other names,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: it wasn't all that great, but I grew into it
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: and uh and found a way.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: So I'm sure you've done the same with breed Love
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: is the middle name.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's fair. There's probably a day
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't like it, but then I saddled
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: one of my sons with it as well, So.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: Did you nice?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, good work.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Breed loves well and it fits perfect for this because
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: Coach Breed loves uh.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: After that, I was basically number one yeah.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, give them, give them that one if you will. Well, uh, basically,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: just the whole thought of this that they end up
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: painting me into some sort of picture of that I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: wear like those short bike shorts. You remember the coaching
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: shorts that all the coaches wore, yeh, and then the
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: the sands belt. Yeah, and then you got the the
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: tube socks pulled all the way up, you know, tight
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: shirt whistle around your neck. So you are wearing that
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: right now. We're gonna pretend that you got the whole
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: coach Coach Breedlove outfit on.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Have a cigarette near me, I'll go, I'll go up
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: and flames. Okay, yeah, yeah exactly. All right, Well, we're
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: gonna go over a few topics.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, We're gonna go over a few topics and get
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Coach Breedlove's idea on the whole thing. I mean, I'm
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: gonna just start off with one the Hawks first drive.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody can give a better
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: perspective of this besides Coach Breedlove, because you were a
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: quarterback at one point in time. The idea of these
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: offensive minds and even not the other you know, head
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: coaches that have defensive minds. Their offensive coordinator goes out
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: there typically I imagine, and tries to script what they
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: want to do on their first possession, and you.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: Got to stay on track. You gotta stay you know,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: on down.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: You don't want to fall behind or get sacked, because
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: obviously that's not something they're writing into their script. The
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Seahawks first possession was the best that they've had in
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: quite some time. We've been talking for weeks about the
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: slow starts of this offense. Did you see anything other
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: than well, that screen is nice to turn into a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: forty six yard pass and put us down there, you know,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: knocking on the doorstep. But do you like the way
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak does his scripted plays or is that something
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: that's is left to be desired to some degree?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: How are you feeling about their first I like.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: It when it was working, Uh, you know, for the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: better part of ten weeks, Seattle was number one and
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: in points in the first half, but then they've kind
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: of fallen off.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: I think the most conspicuous play, the boot screen to
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Canine was a sensational you know, in a structure, you know,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: it's a mister, it's it's it's kind of a misdirection
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: on stacked on a misdirection. You're you're faking the stretch
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: left and then you're faking the quarterback right handed quarterback
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Darnold springing out to the right side.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Oh no, we don't.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: We stop and throw back to Canine who you fake
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: to the stretch left. So so that you know, those
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: type of players are often designed to take advantage of
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: a defense that wants to you know, flow too much
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: to the ball and not read out their assignments. But uh,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I think that that coaches who do the script they
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: want to get into different formations and personnel groupings to see, okay,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: how are they going to respond to that? And and
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: then they make the notes and they say, okay, if
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to play with you know, when we
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: went twelve personnel and we motioned from uh, you know,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: a two by two to a three by one, how
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: did you respond? What personnel grouping were you? Did you
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: did you run with somebody or did you rock the safeties?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 8: What have you?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: And then you know, did you change your coverage? And
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: and then you say, well, well, maybe we can induce
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: you to do that again. And then you have a
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: beater for that coverage. You know, so, oh we were
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: able to get you and cover three and rock the safety.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Well you know, you know, now we can run the
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: tight end into that area away from your rotation, and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: and so so there's all kinds of plays where you're
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: trying to set it up that way and uh, and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: and yet it's a misnomer to say it's the first
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: fIF team because you're going to deviate off the script
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: unless you have literally like, okay, we don't face a
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: third down like we're we are executing at such a
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: high level. You know, we're we're eight for eight in
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: those fifteen plays, and the and the seven runs you know,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: average six and a half yards per with a minimum
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: of five, like then you would you're fifteen would be
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: the fifteen.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: But you usually are going to you run a few
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: of those.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Then you got to stop for a third and one
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: or a third and eleven. You got to punt the
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: ball and then oh the field position. I'm not going
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: to be able to get back onto my script because
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: I don't like this play, you know, from my own
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: four yard line after the opponent punter despondent. So that
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: that's kind of some of the stuff we had. But
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: to me, it's basically simple. If you're if you're moving
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: and scoring points, then great, you're doing a good job
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: of scripting.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: They need to probably maybe work on rock and the
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: CASPA a little bit and when they're rocking, you know,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: the safety, everyone on the safety and then rock the Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think so, I mean, I think it makes sense.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: I think just mix it in.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: I know Homegrin was always looking to say, hey, if
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: we motion, are they rocking the kasba off?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: That's that's that you can't be unaware what's happening with
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: the kasmo exactly.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Another topic that is going to be highly discussed and
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: will forever, I think nowadays. Just the way that the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: game is being played. There's it typically used to be
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: you get the fourth down, unless you're right on that
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: that edge of can't kick the field goal. It's too
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: far out for the field goal. It's a short fourth
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: and two or fourth and less than one something, then
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll go for it. Other than that, you're pinning
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: the team down and trying to make them drive a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: longer field.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: That is not the case.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: There's teams, a lot of them they trust their offense.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: They trust the quarterback, they trust that they can get that,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: and they're going for it. I mean, Sean McVay, I
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: think had four fourth down attempts in the first quarter.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Now their first drive ended by not getting one after
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: they had got and a couple earlier.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: What is coach breed Love's fourth down philosophy? Has it
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: changed from when you you used to play and when
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: you were used to coach or is it the same?
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Well with you know, coaching kids, nobody cares about that.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: But we didn't punt because you know, your your net
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: change and field positions so little it's not worth it.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: So we didn't even practice punting. Okay, and I'm being
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: serious and so, but okay, that's not why you're asking.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 7: The to me.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: You know you've heard the saying there's no two snowflakes
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: are the same. I think that there is no two
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: situations that are exactly the same. And I'm being more
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: literal than I sound. You know, home grin is is
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: basically anti uh. You know the metrics right in the analytics.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Some want to coach by the feel some I want
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: to go exactly by quote unquote the book.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: But I think that that.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: That's telling you what other teams were doing against your
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: opponent or what have you, or or an aggregate of
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: what the league says you should do. But you know,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: particularly as the game develops based on you know what,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: if the game is scoring half of what you thought.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: You know, the Vegas had the over under at forty
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: nine and you're sitting there in a thirteen to ten
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: game in the fourth quarter, Well you're going to have
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: a different take on you know. You know, if you
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: feel like your defense is just handling them, you know,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: three points are more valuable than I if it's a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: tract meet and everybody's going up and down the you say,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, I can't a kick a field goal here.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: So so I think there's it's a blend of the
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: analytics and the feel for the game. But you know,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: I think I think Dan Campbell has been an interesting
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: study in that regard because he's been noted to be
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: the most aggressive go for it guy and fourth down
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: and last year when the Lions were fifteen and two,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: and then I stopped for a second on the Lions
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: last year because the NFC North a year ago set
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: the all time record for highest win percentage in the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: history of the NFL, and I've looked at the list
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: and number five was that Western Division in nineteen thirty five.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: Like, this is a division. This is a record that goes.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: Back a long time, the NFC North and the Lions.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Out of thirty two teams in the NFL, there was
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: only one team that went six to zero in their
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Division one team and it was the Lions. And again
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: in the toughest the highest division winning percentage in history,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: by the way, they The second place was the twenty
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: thirteen NFC West when the x won the Super Bowl, Right,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: but the NFC North surpassed it. Anyways, I divert so here.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Dan Campbell a year ago was fifteen and two in
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: the most competitive division in NFL history, and it's like
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: everything that he hit was right right. A year later,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: everything he hits is wrong. His fourth downs have been abysmal,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: and the kind where you just shake your head and
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: everybody just says, well, Dan Gambill's gonna keep on doing that. Well,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: you got a bit of a different team this year.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: I think your offensive line isn't what it was, and
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: so so at an event that would be My take
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: is it's every single decision is unique to itself.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Right Yeah, And I think the ability to adjust to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: it is something that the best coaches are good at,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: and the ones that are middle of the ground, they
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: tend to kind of stick to what they thought going
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: into it and don't necessarily make adjustments. We shall see
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: if it coach, if if any coaches make adjustments to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: that whole thing.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: Coach of the Year? What's uh? What's coach? Breed Love's take?
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: Who you're voting for a Coach of the year right now?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I think in the NFC, I think it's Kyle Shanahan,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: maybe Ben Johnson, But you know, you say Ben Johnson
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: because they're eleven four, where do they come from? And
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: so you give the nod butt their quarterback has been healthy.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: The forty nine ers have had to deal with a
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: lot more injuries, including at the quarterback position. So you
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: vote for that at the end of the season. So
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: I would say that if the forty nine Ers end
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: up as the number one seed, which means the Seahawks
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: loss at least one of the next two games. But
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: if the forty nine Ers end up as the number
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: one seed, given everything that they've had to deal with injuries,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan would be your NFC guy. And then you say, well,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: what about Vrabel at New England? Now he has not
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: had to deal with He's got a number three overall
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: quarterback inreak May that is coming into his own. But
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: the substantial gain from a year ago is just too
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: much to ignore. So I would say that probably probably Vrabel,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: you know, Sean Payton, you know, would be in consideration.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: But I think it would come down to Shanahan versus
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Verbel right now as today, given that San Francisco is
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: the number six seed and ten to four, I'd probably
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: say Verybel one, Shanahan two.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that that could change, right, I'm with you
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: on that. I think Liam Cohen is probably trying to
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: make a little bit of a run too. And Jacksonville
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: he discussed him earlier, Lawrence or Lawrence.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: I mean there are only one game behind New England,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: so anything that you say about about New England, you
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: could say about Jacksonville, right, yep. But New England was
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: even further down and you got a younger quarterback. I mean,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to really just like parse out all
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: these elements, I think Rabel would be a little bit
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: more worthy of Liam Colin, but absolutely Colin should get
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of consideration.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: Right, all right, Well, I got one more for coach Breedlove.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: And you know you've been a giant fan of DK
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Metcalf and what he brings to the table. Obviously, you know,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: probably a little irritated and the fact that he's gone,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: and the fact that he never really was used the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: way that Coach Breedlove and coach Hugh Millan would have
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: used him, and yet he got kind of caught up
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: in an ugly situation. Who knows what was said at
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: this point in time, but apparently somebody a fan of
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: the opposing team ends up last night during the Lions
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Steelers game. He ends up kind of looks like he's
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: kind of grabbing him, maybe holding on to his shirt
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: or something, and then takes a little bit of a swipe.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he hits him or not.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: I would imagine that that guy sees dollar signs at
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: this point in time, he's going to say that he
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: hit him. But I mean, to me, as a former athlete,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: us a former athlete, there's got to be a line,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: and the lines had stop somewhere short of putting your
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: hands on somebody, regardless of.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: What they say.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: And that sucks to say, but it's kind of part
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: of your job. You're gonna get you're gonna get heckled.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: He doesn't handle that very well. But this is the
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: ugliest incident. What does a coach breed Love think about
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: the DK situation? Well, more or less what you just articulated. Uh,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: there's exactly zero tolerance or excuse or any kind of
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: rationalizing a way what he did. It's it's intolerable. It
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: is a very poor look on him. Primarily, it's a
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: poor look on the Steelers. It's a poor look on
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: the NFL.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Uh. There's no place for it none.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: There's no excusing, you know, talking to a buddy, he said, well, apparently, uh,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: DK said that somebody used the N word. If that's true,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: that is very unfortunate. You know, in twenty twenty five
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: that any any person could you know, a white person
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: could use that word to a black person. You know,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: but that still would not excuse. You're a professional athlete,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: because you know what if you were, if you say,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: well that that gives a guy a reason to punch
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: a fan, then we're gonna be have Having played and
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, idiots are going to incite
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: players to punch, you know, and then to get suspended,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: and you know, get it. Oh, let me let me
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: see if I can suspend you know, DeVante Adams. You know,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: we're playing the Rams, you know, and then a fan
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: could do that boom, and then and then a guy
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: takes his wipe out of him. So no, there's no
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: there's nothing I can say. Uh, there's no qualifiers. It's
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: an absolute horrendous look. Yeah, and and totally unexcusable and unforgivable.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: I got nothing, no word in his defense whatsoever.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't either. I'm with it sucks.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: There's times, I mean, obviously I never had anything that
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: would resemble that if somebody used the N word.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: I never had anything like that.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: But again, you know, we kind of started the segment
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: talking about how, you know, childhood at times wasn't all
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: that fun for a little redheaded, freckle faced kid with
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: a name that you know, rhymes with the F word.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: And yet once I got to professional sports, and I
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: was a pretty easy target for the opposing fans, right,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: the biggest guy out there. I was bald, I'm follically challenged.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: So there's that easy one that they would just say, oh,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: you're you're too fat to play baseball. I enjoyed it, actually,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I actually kind of ate it up. I would actually
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: turn and yeah and start having a conversation with him, right,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: And then if you got to do what I wanted
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: to do, which was go yard, then I would come
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: back and be like, did.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: You enjoy that? That was that fun for you?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: Like I would kind of eat it up a little bit.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: I turned opposing fans sections into like my cheering section
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: by handling it the right way. In my opinion, this
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: is not the right way. But now he's gonna get fine.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: But let's strypend let's straw.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: A distinction there. And I know you're not saying this,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: but let's let's just make sure we're drawn as a distinction.
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  Speaker 2: You getting teased for your name or being freckled is
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  Speaker 2: at a different level than a black person in America
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  Speaker 2: being called underboard, right, Like you have to have early
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  Speaker 2: middle school education to understand the magnitude of that.
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  Speaker 4: H So.
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  Speaker 3: You know that that fan, uh if he said that,
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  Speaker 3: it's a disgrace. But you know what, DK got to
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  Speaker 3: be above it. Or if you can't wear a professional uniform.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, you punched a guy wearing a
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  Speaker 2: blue wig, that didn't get you you any freaking tough
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  Speaker 2: guy points on any scale, right, son, event Well.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's what started it. Maybe he said, my
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  Speaker 1: blue hair looks better than your blue hair. Maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's maybe that's triggered him. If soe DK triggered for less.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well that's the the whole idea of
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  Speaker 3: not being able to control yourself. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing about what I got hazed or heckled that
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  Speaker 1: comes close.
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  Speaker 3: To anything like that that You're right, that is just
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  Speaker 3: plain and simple. Right, by the way, on all levels,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just.
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  Speaker 2: Responding to you know, possible speculator like, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: that as fact. I hope I said, if indeed worst
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  Speaker 2: like the the most charitable you could be for DK
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  Speaker 2: is if you want, if you like, if somebody said
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  Speaker 2: pistol to your head, you got to somehow, in the
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: court of a public opinion.
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  Speaker 3: Diffuse what DK metcalf did. Well, if you were charged
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  Speaker 3: with that task, you'd say, well, they called them the
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  Speaker 3: N word, and you know what, that.
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  Speaker 2: Is justifiably incendiary and inflammatory and and it should shock
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  Speaker 2: everybody if that happened.
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  Speaker 3: And yet even still, yeah, I'd say that is not.
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  Speaker 1: An excuse for what he did. Yeah, No, I'm with
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  Speaker 1: you one hundred percent. It can make you want to
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  Speaker 1: punch somebody and then you have to go can I
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  Speaker 1: certain times? No, there's there's times that.
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  Speaker 3: I chose to play.
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  Speaker 2: You chose to play a team sport. You didn't play golf,
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  Speaker 2: you didn't play tennis, you didn't wrestle. You played a
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  Speaker 2: team sport. You have an obligation to your teammates. Tigers
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: are badass and lions are badass, but there's a difference.
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  Speaker 2: Tigers live and dwell solo. Lions are part of a pride.
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  Speaker 2: They have to fit into a social structure. When you
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: play football, You're a lion, not a tiger.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right on, well said, all right.
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  Speaker 1: On the other side, I want to get Hugh and
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: try to get Ashley in on this one as well.
• 1:25:01
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• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: thing and least favorite thing about the Seahawks is right
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