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Forget I Asked (S3 E3 "Application Anxiety") · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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Speaker 1: I am all in. I am all in with Scott
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Speaker 1: Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All right, everybody, Scott Patterson,
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Speaker 1: I'm all in podcast. I Heart Radio, one of leven productions.
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Speaker 1: We have had a tsunami, a tsunami of responses emails
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Speaker 1: coming in over the last recap episode haunted leg and
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Speaker 1: I wanted to address it. I I really think it's
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Speaker 1: important to address it because, as I said to Amy
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Speaker 1: in our initial phone call, Um, when I pictured the idea,
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Speaker 1: which I thought was such an original idea of a
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Speaker 1: of a rewatch podcast, I didn't know there were thirty
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Speaker 1: thousand of them already on you, which it just shows
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Speaker 1: you how slow my brain works. Um. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: I said to her, the most important thing to me
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Speaker 1: is that the fans are served here that we cannot
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Speaker 1: usurp or you know, try to grandstand or or in
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Speaker 1: any way, um walk into the Church of Gilmore and
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Speaker 1: defy all the place. And I think I did that
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Speaker 1: on this last episode. And I want to first and
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Speaker 1: foremost apologize to you, Amy for talking over I think
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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into an argument and talk
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Speaker 1: over you. When I'm trying to apologize, I interrupt you
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Speaker 1: every every episode. I see your comments, I see your comments.
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Speaker 1: I get excited. I can't help myself, right, but we
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Speaker 1: just get excited. We care. Here's the thing. And I
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Speaker 1: don't mean to trash guys, but if it was a
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Speaker 1: bunch of guys reacting oh this, that I would go.
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Speaker 1: You know, I understand guys when men, I think I
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Speaker 1: place women higher than I do. Man, I just do.
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Speaker 1: They're more emotionally intelligent, they're more in tune with shows
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Speaker 1: like this. This fan base is is mostly women. It's
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Speaker 1: most it's like women. And uh, my entire life, I
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Speaker 1: have been guided by emotionally mature, intelligent women. Otherwise I'd
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Speaker 1: be a total wreck. And women have saved my ass
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Speaker 1: countless times in my life. And when women speak out
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Speaker 1: and say, Scott, check yourself a little bit, I listen.
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Speaker 1: So I'm listening to you. I appreciate this. I love you, guys, Daniel.
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Speaker 1: I apologize if I have been talking over you. I've
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Speaker 1: been too aggressive. You're so nice. So after we taped
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Speaker 1: the episode that aired, Scott called me the next morning
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Speaker 1: and call to me to apologize, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: you have the whole thing to apologize for, Like nothing
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Speaker 1: is more fun for me. Than when we're talking about
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Speaker 1: these episodes, because it's like we were so passionate about
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Speaker 1: this show, Like I love this show so much, so
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Speaker 1: it's like nothing. I do enjoy hearing a different perspective too,
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Speaker 1: you know, like it wouldn't be fun if it was
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Speaker 1: just the same perspective, like exactly like seeing from your lens,
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Speaker 1: even though ours was totally right and Scott correct, we
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Speaker 1: want to hear it. I'm just kidding, a lot of
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Speaker 1: people agree with you. You know, people don't like Christopher.
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Speaker 1: I happen to love him, so I think that's the
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Speaker 1: other thing. It's like you don't care for Christopher, where
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Speaker 1: I'm just like Doe ide for Christopher. I love him,
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't give me the right to to stop
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Speaker 1: listening to you because you're not agreeing with me. And
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Speaker 1: I want to be better at that. So I want
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Speaker 1: to appreciate that. But I think you always listen. But listen.
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Speaker 1: We I told you in that initial phone call. The
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Speaker 1: fans are gonna shape this. We're going into this kind
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Speaker 1: of blind I know this. I know this show is
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Speaker 1: is sacred to people. It gives them a great deal
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Speaker 1: of comfort. The last thing I want to do is
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Speaker 1: gives them any kind of stress. UM, I just happened
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Speaker 1: to be UM. And there's a lot of reasons for it.
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Speaker 1: UM A little bit forceful sometimes, UM. And you know
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Speaker 1: we also are passionate. You look are Luke. So whether
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Speaker 1: you are an actor portraying Luke over these many years,
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Speaker 1: like you are Luke, you care about him so much
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Speaker 1: so we want to hear what Luke has to say.
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Speaker 1: So here's here's what I'm gonna try to do. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna try to and I think and one comment really
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Speaker 1: open my eyes. And I'm telling you, the comments are
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Speaker 1: so intelligent, they're so insightful, and it's amazing this fan
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Speaker 1: base read them as we read them. I didn't read
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Speaker 1: them all. I couldn't get through them all I was.
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Speaker 1: You know, I almost had a breakdown. I couldn't. I
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Speaker 1: got through about four of them, what I said, all right,
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Speaker 1: another one for me, another one. I read them all
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Speaker 1: that for some reason, if someone missed last week, you
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Speaker 1: might want to go back right now and give it
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Speaker 1: a clicker too, because it got hot. But I gotta
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Speaker 1: tell you, I love doing this. I've never had so
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Speaker 1: much fun doing anything in my professional career. And I
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Speaker 1: love you guys, and we are having such a good
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Speaker 1: time doing this. I do get passionate. I think what
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Speaker 1: I'm going to try to do. It's one of the
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Speaker 1: comments that I was I was about to comment on
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Speaker 1: is try to separate, And it was such an insightful comment. Um.
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Speaker 1: It was trying to separate Luke from Scott and try
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Speaker 1: to look at a little more objectively like a fan
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Speaker 1: would look at it. I'm looking at it. It's like
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Speaker 1: too much inside baseball kind of thing. But that's what
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Speaker 1: we like because I get it. But it doesn't because
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Speaker 1: you may have seen from my background acting, which was
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Speaker 1: a lot better than I give your credit for, I
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Speaker 1: just got a little jealous, very bad. It was very
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Speaker 1: very bad because I know I can't do it like that, Um,
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Speaker 1: which is why I never attempted background acting. Um, but
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Speaker 1: I'm listen. I hear you, I hear you, Gang, I
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Speaker 1: hear everybody, and you should be able to listen to
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Speaker 1: this podcast about this fantastic show filled with people that
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Speaker 1: I truly love. Um. It's an experience and it continues
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Speaker 1: to change my life and improve my life for the better.
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Speaker 1: And if you're saying this, then I'm gonna work on
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Speaker 1: myself and I'm going to try to to be a
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Speaker 1: little less um forceful with my opinion. But I think
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Speaker 1: I think opinions. If you know, I stand by my opinions.
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Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's not having the opinion, it's
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Speaker 1: how the opinion is is served. And I just think
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Speaker 1: I'm serving the opinion a little hot. I'm gonna take
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Speaker 1: it out of the oven sooner, let it cool off,
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Speaker 1: and then I'll serve it. Ready, I mean, let's do it.
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Speaker 1: Let's do it today. I can't wait to see what
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Speaker 1: he's thinking. Anyway, greatest fans in the world. They are
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Speaker 1: the smartest, nicest people, by the way, I agree, they
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Speaker 1: are so nice. But the comments are so so smart,
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Speaker 1: Like keep them coming. They do. They know this show
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Speaker 1: a heck of a lot better than I do. And
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Speaker 1: I was in it. It's like not even a fair fight.
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Speaker 1: But thank you, thank you for the comments. And we're
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Speaker 1: gonna we do want to make this UM a fan
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Speaker 1: friendly event. Every single time you tune in. We don't
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Speaker 1: want you to feel like there's going to be any
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Speaker 1: kind of toxicity. So we've got an expert coming in.
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Speaker 1: They're going to clear out the toxicity and then we're
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Speaker 1: going to continue anyway. I almost I almost shout a
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Speaker 1: team low again because you can't help. But like, you're
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Speaker 1: still going to have a show, and we're not all
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Speaker 1: going to agree. Like I am going to be team Logan.
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Speaker 1: I do love me some Jess, but I'm always gonna
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Speaker 1: be team Logan. So it's like we're gonna disagree on
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Speaker 1: things we are. That's fine. I can't wait to see
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Speaker 1: you about this episode because I have like some get
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Speaker 1: into it because I have something. Okay, I after this
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Speaker 1: episode was over, Uh and we're wait a minute, so
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Speaker 1: who's who's going to do our synopsis? Take the synopsis away.
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Speaker 1: So this is season three, episode three, Application Anxiety, original
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Speaker 1: air day, October eight, two two. When Rory's Harvard application arrives,
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Speaker 1: her confidence disappears, and soon three generations of Gilmore girls
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Speaker 1: share one giant anxiety attack. Plus Dean starts to wonder
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Speaker 1: what will happen with their relationship when she takes off
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Speaker 1: for college, and Taylor convinces the town to open an
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Speaker 1: old fashioned soda shop next to Luke's diner. At the
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Speaker 1: end of this episode, at the end of Application Anxiety,
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Speaker 1: you know what I said to myself, what I said,
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Speaker 1: who the hell wrote this? So I went back and
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Speaker 1: I looked at it. Is that good or bad? Oh?
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Speaker 1: That's good, I said to myself. Daniel Palladino wrote the
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Speaker 1: hell out of this episode, because man, you talk about
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Speaker 1: snappy dialogue, and Gail man Cuso directed it. And I
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Speaker 1: remember Gail and she was always so great to work with,
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Speaker 1: and she masterfully guided us through this and kept our
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Speaker 1: pace at breakneck speed throughout this entire thing. I just
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Speaker 1: thought that this was a masterful episode. I was completely engaged.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get up and and get some more food,
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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't allow myself to know I just right.
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Speaker 1: That happens to me with Gilmore Girls constantly, where I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna watch like fifteen minutes of it and
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Speaker 1: then I'll go do something else, and then all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like I'm a zombie. Just like. I
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Speaker 1: was so hooked into this because the dialogue was so great,
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Speaker 1: and the and the banter back and forth was so great,
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Speaker 1: and the timing was so great. Everything was just bum
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Speaker 1: bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. Well, you know
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Speaker 1: what hooked me right from the start, The Brady Variety Hour,
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Speaker 1: Like do you guys, do you guys know what that is? Genius? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Brady Bunch, me too. But so that's what is so
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Speaker 1: genius about this show. They weren't watching The Brady Bunch.
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Speaker 1: They were watching the fairly cheesy like Pam The Brady
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Speaker 1: Variety Hours. So in the seventies, Danielle was not very
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Speaker 1: born in are you joking me? Sorry? You weren't born
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Speaker 1: till the nineties. The first year, well, I was born
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Speaker 1: in the seventies. So in the seventies is the Variety
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Speaker 1: Hour was like a total thing, like it was the
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Speaker 1: heyday of Donnie and Marie. So the fact that Rory
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Speaker 1: and Lorla are watching The Brady Variety Hour, who even
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Speaker 1: knows how they got it at the time because it
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Speaker 1: wasn't on. It was like a song and dance thing
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Speaker 1: with all the Bradies, except where I think Jan bugged out.
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Speaker 1: I think Jan did not partake. That was so hilarious
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Speaker 1: that they were watching that I was dying, and then
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Speaker 1: that that kind of became that bit because her application
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Speaker 1: came while they were watching. They Now, did you guys
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Speaker 1: notice something about the mailman? He didn't close the door.
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Speaker 1: He left the door wide open, And I just came
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Speaker 1: in the house. But that's small town. That's like small town, right,
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Speaker 1: They're all, hey, Eddie. I'm like what yeah, Like I
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Speaker 1: live in a little small town and my alarm would
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Speaker 1: be going off if somebody to open the door, you know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, my mailman, I wave and I love,
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Speaker 1: but he doesn't open my door. We used to get
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Speaker 1: We used to have a milkbox out in front of
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Speaker 1: our front door, and the milkman would come by and
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Speaker 1: put the glass bottles of milk and milk balls. And
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Speaker 1: then we used to have god, I sound old, don't
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Speaker 1: I um? And then we had a Charles Chips used
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Speaker 1: to come by and put potato chips into our potatoes. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: it was a weekly delivery. The old joke so like
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Speaker 1: Daniel is too young for this too. The old joke
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Speaker 1: would be like, oh was it the milkman. Like remember
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Speaker 1: when people would have like Shenanigan's on the side, and
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Speaker 1: or like Milkman's baby exactly because the milkman. I'm too
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Speaker 1: young for the milkman. Sorry, Scott, the puffcorn relieved because
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Speaker 1: I was suspicious, you know, guy, Yeah, can they bring
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Speaker 1: back the chip guys? And the guy just delivered bags
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Speaker 1: of potato chips. I mean what it was both. I
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Speaker 1: mean it was like get them both in court. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's like, what are you gonna do? Chip guy? It's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: it could be one or the other. Alright, So back
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Speaker 1: to the show. So what do you guys think her
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Speaker 1: Harvard application has come? Um, you know, I love that
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Speaker 1: they talked about the dead souls and go Goal reading
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Speaker 1: the bleak Russian authors who are all quite brilliant, and uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, it was just a funny bed. It was
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Speaker 1: a funny way to open it. What should we do?
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Speaker 1: Should he could have brilliant? Yeah, it was a funny
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Speaker 1: way to open it, very literally, because they're watching the
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Speaker 1: show being so ruy lorla, and then here comes the
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Speaker 1: baby Harvard application. It's like, here's here's present day culture
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Speaker 1: watching the Brady Bunch Variety Hour, and then there's a
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Speaker 1: Harvard coming in, and then there's Googel right, so okay,
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Speaker 1: So then we come into the kitchen and out pops Lane.
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Speaker 1: And this is a very important storyline. Lane wants to
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Speaker 1: be in a band, so she's got this ad. So
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Speaker 1: that's big because as we know, that becomes major throughout
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Speaker 1: the series. So Danielle, I'm jumping ahead, But what did
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Speaker 1: you think when you saw did you know his voice?
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Speaker 1: When you heard on the voice smail the guy calling Lane?
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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? No? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. But no, I didn't
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Speaker 1: recognize the voice. Who was it? You didn't recognize when
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Speaker 1: Dave Regowski calls for the first time? Negative? Okay, don't
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Speaker 1: want it. Okay, I'm jumping ahead, so we'll get back
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Speaker 1: to it. But this is major okay, So anyway, alright,
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Speaker 1: so we're in the kitchen, Lane pops out. Any thoughts
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Speaker 1: on that scene? Um was wondering what the music was
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Speaker 1: in the background. I liked the music in the background,
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Speaker 1: and then she popped out and I said, oh, that's
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Speaker 1: the music in the background. Okay cool? Um yeah, but
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Speaker 1: uh yeah again uh the pace of the dialogue and
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Speaker 1: you really have to focus in and concentrate on what
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Speaker 1: she's sang because you can't pick up all of it.
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Speaker 1: It's so fast. So it really does get you in
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Speaker 1: this heightened state of awareness where you need to be
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Speaker 1: completely focused or else you're gonna miss something. And that's
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Speaker 1: why people watch this so many times over and over
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Speaker 1: again because it's like I missed that. I want to
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Speaker 1: get that. I want to experience this again because it's
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Speaker 1: it's faster than life. Yeah, that is really true, especially
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Speaker 1: in this episode, and it makes it kind of thrilling,
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Speaker 1: and it really its speeds up life. It's like life
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Speaker 1: and fast forward somehow or a higher speed. And I
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Speaker 1: had I had felt like we hadn't had a Lane
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Speaker 1: episode in a bit, like either she'd been missing or
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Speaker 1: she was sort of insignificant where I was happy to
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Speaker 1: see her at the forefront again. Yeah, I was happy
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Speaker 1: to see her doing she loved and she and she
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Speaker 1: loves that. Um so that was good. It was refreshing.
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Speaker 1: It was refreshing to see her. Okay, so we get
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Speaker 1: into Luke Steiner, so it's almost like she's another she's
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Speaker 1: another of laurealized daughters, where it's like that's where she belongs,
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Speaker 1: or she's an alter ego of Rory somehow. Yes, Oh,
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Speaker 1: very interesting. I do feel that she has a very
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Speaker 1: mother daughter relationship with Laura la friends but bordering on
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Speaker 1: their very close agree She's just be bopping in their
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Speaker 1: house all the time, and as we know then she
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Speaker 1: takes the calls out there. I mean She's free to
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Speaker 1: come and go like it's her home. I had. I
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Speaker 1: had My best buddy was like that. He used to
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Speaker 1: just come over any time, and he was welcome to
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Speaker 1: just go into the fridge and come into the house.
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Speaker 1: And you know, because he had a he had a
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Speaker 1: tough family life, so he would come in and hang.
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Speaker 1: I mean I I wouldn't be there. He'd come in
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Speaker 1: and talk to my mom, and my mom would Isn't
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Speaker 1: that the best? It's the best for him and for you? Yes,
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Speaker 1: And we're still super close to this day. Oh I
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Speaker 1: love that. Yeah. Okay, So we go into Luke's diner
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Speaker 1: and this is my favorite line. Do they let kids
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Speaker 1: drink coffee before school? I think it might lead to
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Speaker 1: harder stuff Latte's cappuccinos. Yeah. Now, what did you think
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Speaker 1: of Dean and Rory that that morning? Um? What they
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Speaker 1: had that little scene at the table, right? I thought
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Speaker 1: they looked very comfortable and very content and things were
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Speaker 1: kind of back on track for them. Yeah. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: felt that way too about this episode, and it was
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Speaker 1: sweet right there. Sweet together. They're very sweet together. He
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Speaker 1: was less annoying and no jess in this episode, So
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Speaker 1: maybe that makes us sort of like, like Dean more,
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Speaker 1: how do you guys feel about Dean right now? I
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Speaker 1: feel bad for the guy. I do feel bad. But
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Speaker 1: this episode I was like, oh, okay, there's a shift
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Speaker 1: in this episode, which we can talk about later because
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Speaker 1: the ending scene, you know, one of the final scenes,
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Speaker 1: you kind of get a glimpse into what's going on
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Speaker 1: in Dean's rain. You know, Yeah, Dean was Dean later on. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: although interesting that he sort of was thinking ahead to
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Speaker 1: it so realistically where she really wasn't. But we'll get
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Speaker 1: to that. Yeah. I thought they seemed very cute in
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Speaker 1: this scene, and you know, she wanted to make plans
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Speaker 1: and he was like, all right, you gonna be writing
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Speaker 1: your essay. And that's when we learned she put school aside.
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Speaker 1: You know, she was like no, like you know, like
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Speaker 1: I want to hang out with you. She thinks she's
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Speaker 1: going to write about Hillary Clinton, and she's all good
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Speaker 1: to go, and we see Taylor taking the photo hysterical,
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Speaker 1: and then he got he knew, Luke. He's so good.
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Speaker 1: He is. I mean, he just puts that in his
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Speaker 1: body that way, and he's hysterical. God, he's so good.
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Speaker 1: He's so good. Okay, So then we had to Chilton
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Speaker 1: for the assembly. What do you guys think of Paris
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Speaker 1: and Rory at the Assembly and everything that ensued, they're
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Speaker 1: interviewing Jim Romaine from Princeton and Rose Samuel's the college consultant.
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Speaker 1: I like how it started because the guy who was
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Speaker 1: running the place told Paris, look, look, this isn't the
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Speaker 1: Beatles at Chase Stadium. Relax. It's like finally somebody you know,
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Speaker 1: but stood up door and didn't get bulldozed and said,
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Speaker 1: what's what's with this stuff? You know? She wanted to
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Speaker 1: black everything black background with spotlights and the whole thing,
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Speaker 1: and she wanted what she wanted to look like firing
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Speaker 1: line or something like that, or Charlie Rose screen. She
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Speaker 1: wanted to look like Charlie Rose. That's where she does
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Speaker 1: her Hillary Clinton dig too. And I just kind of
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Speaker 1: had to chuck out that or He's like right, right, God.
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Speaker 1: I also thought there was a couple of words. They're like,
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Speaker 1: we don't like perfunctory answers, and I'm all, Google, what
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Speaker 1: is perfunctory? Like, uh yeah? And bad printing. They didn't
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Speaker 1: like bad printing. I was like, yeah, that was funny stuff.
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Speaker 1: The looks on both of their favor Their reactions were priceless.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, when you jump ahead, I liked Paris
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Speaker 1: a little more in this because I got to see
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Speaker 1: a different color or she wasn't so sure. I liked
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Speaker 1: Paris so much in the scene ahead when she calls Rory.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. So, so now we're at Friday
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Speaker 1: night dinner and we can go backwards, but embarrass So,
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Speaker 1: first of all, Roy has a cell phone. Does you
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Speaker 1: guys noticed that she does? She has a cell phone now,
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Speaker 1: so I believe it's the first time we've seen Rory
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Speaker 1: with a cell phone. I think Lorela had had one before,
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Speaker 1: but Roy has one now, embarish. Now I was about
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Speaker 1: to heave. Okay, so talk about it. We're at Friday
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Speaker 1: night dinner and Emily obviously has the magazines for school.
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Speaker 1: And then this is where we see both Rory and
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Speaker 1: Lower Life freaking out. Oh um, hysterically funny scene. Uh
21:25
Speaker 1: you know they you know that's that's a hell of
21:29
Speaker 1: a thing when you realize how much competition there is
21:32
Speaker 1: and there's so many, you know, thousands globally, thousands of
21:35
Speaker 1: people with the same qualifications, if not better, And how
21:38
Speaker 1: are you going to differentiate yourself. And uh, I thought
21:42
Speaker 1: all of their answers and and Dan, Dan researched this beautifully,
21:46
Speaker 1: you know, I think it was you know, he probably
21:47
Speaker 1: had to call the Harvard missions border get somebody to
21:50
Speaker 1: talk to him, and they told him, you know, they
21:52
Speaker 1: gave me the inside track on on how they do
21:54
Speaker 1: these things. Um. What was scary for me is that
21:58
Speaker 1: they you know, they're they're so that the admissions officers
22:02
Speaker 1: know that everybody is the same the same qualifications, so
22:04
Speaker 1: they put a stack on the rejects, and they just
22:06
Speaker 1: put a stack on the yeses, you know, and there's
22:10
Speaker 1: far fewer yeses and rejects, and they just that's how
22:12
Speaker 1: they do it. Sometimes. Maybe I don't know that that
22:15
Speaker 1: was kind of frightening to me. I hope that's not
22:17
Speaker 1: the case. Um, but getting into college is so hard.
22:24
Speaker 1: The difference between even when Rory was going to college
22:27
Speaker 1: twenty years ago and now, I mean, these kids cannot
22:30
Speaker 1: get into college now. So nobody can get into college.
22:33
Speaker 1: You have to have like four point five to get
22:35
Speaker 1: into like the I mean, to get into Harvard and Yale. Now,
22:39
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't I can't even think about it.
22:42
Speaker 1: I think it's like to have a five point out
22:44
Speaker 1: does exist you have to be a unicorn to get
22:48
Speaker 1: into heart. Well, it's all I mean, it used to
22:50
Speaker 1: be in my day. All s, A T S and
22:52
Speaker 1: a C T of course, you know. And yeah, so
22:58
Speaker 1: they was very accurate even twenty years ago. And now
23:04
Speaker 1: it totally plays because this is what these kids are
23:07
Speaker 1: really going through, like freaking out about getting into college. Well,
23:12
Speaker 1: we had a we had a kid in in my
23:13
Speaker 1: group of friends who who got accepted to Yale um
23:20
Speaker 1: really yeah, and he did premed and he became an
23:22
Speaker 1: anestesil just the whole thing. Oh my god. But you know,
23:25
Speaker 1: growing up, you know, he knew anatomy and physiology like
23:29
Speaker 1: the back of his hand when he was ten, eleven,
23:33
Speaker 1: twelve years old. You know, he knew it. And he
23:37
Speaker 1: was grounded all of the time. His dad was always
23:40
Speaker 1: rounding him. So he just strict parents, just studied, very
23:43
Speaker 1: strict parents. Yeah, and he studied and studied and studied
23:46
Speaker 1: and studied, and that's what it takes. It's interesting because
23:49
Speaker 1: when you think about Chiltern, like these kids are competing
23:51
Speaker 1: at such an extraordinary level, extraordinary level that they are
23:56
Speaker 1: considering Yale Harvard, Prince and all these schools. It's like
23:59
Speaker 1: it is intense. It's just it's the first time that
24:07
Speaker 1: Laurelie realizes, oh gosh, this is not as a shoe
24:13
Speaker 1: in as this might not happen. There's a lot of
24:16
Speaker 1: special kids. The Gilmer women are freaking out, all three
24:21
Speaker 1: of them. What I thought was interesting, and I will say,
24:23
Speaker 1: is that Loureli called the headmaster and gets connected to
24:28
Speaker 1: the guy, you know, the guy that went to Harvard.
24:30
Speaker 1: Where what's interesting is this is where they really should
24:33
Speaker 1: have leaned on Richard. Even though he's a Yale man,
24:36
Speaker 1: he is an expert at this. So it's kind of
24:40
Speaker 1: interesting that they literally have a wealth of knowledge right
24:43
Speaker 1: in front of them of getting into school, but specifically Harvard. Right.
24:50
Speaker 1: So there is that one thing I love when she
24:54
Speaker 1: says and that insipid Kate Hudson is not going to
24:56
Speaker 1: take your spot or back Luke's diner. And now we
25:02
Speaker 1: get the kids coming in with the orders epic. I
25:08
Speaker 1: think this was as good at writing for Luke as
25:11
Speaker 1: there has been on the shows. How all said, I
25:14
Speaker 1: think Dan really gave me the gift here in this
25:18
Speaker 1: episode because I just thought that because I saw myself
25:23
Speaker 1: really excited and engaged as an actor, and there were
25:27
Speaker 1: no impediments in the writing, not that there are in
25:31
Speaker 1: anybody else's writing, but I thought this was particularly um
25:35
Speaker 1: like this perfect runway for me to take off. And
25:39
Speaker 1: I don't know, something just really clicked for me in
25:43
Speaker 1: this episode because I'm watching it going jeez, I don't
25:47
Speaker 1: I don't remember enjoying. I mean, I don't like watching myself.
25:51
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a terrible experience. But I really enjoyed
25:54
Speaker 1: this because I didn't recognize myself. I think that's really
25:59
Speaker 1: the character, that's the guy. Interesting because it's also wasn't
26:03
Speaker 1: a dramatic scene or a scene with more Lye. It
26:06
Speaker 1: totally took you out of that into something completely different
26:08
Speaker 1: where you're engaging with these customers and then these kids.
26:11
Speaker 1: And then it's always good when you're up against Taylor
26:16
Speaker 1: because you're like, what is going on dude? Basically it's
26:20
Speaker 1: just great. And and I get a chance to go
26:25
Speaker 1: one on one with Michael Winters, which is like, you
26:28
Speaker 1: know you're going up against It's like he made me
26:32
Speaker 1: so much better than I actually am because I had
26:35
Speaker 1: to survive with him, you know, I really had to
26:38
Speaker 1: bring it when I'm working with everybody in that cast,
26:43
Speaker 1: but Michael Winters, my god, just just a joy. I
26:47
Speaker 1: really miss him. Yeah, he does nail that character and
26:50
Speaker 1: it's like just owns it. I do love any scene
26:54
Speaker 1: with him because it's so entertaining. He's brilliant. He's absolutely brilliant,
27:02
Speaker 1: and I don't know why he's not working more. He worked,
27:05
Speaker 1: didn't work in film. I mean all of those great
27:08
Speaker 1: character parts in films, he could have been in a
27:11
Speaker 1: lot of them. And I just just do you get
27:14
Speaker 1: a shout out to to Dosie's Market. So I spent
27:17
Speaker 1: some time when you guys were in there kind of
27:19
Speaker 1: looking That market is stocked. It is stockful, and it
27:23
Speaker 1: has so many candies. It's like bazookas push up. There's
27:28
Speaker 1: a whole like Planters like that market does not look
27:32
Speaker 1: fake or or TV. It looks awesome. That's a real produce.
27:38
Speaker 1: Section two there's like real vegetables and celery and tomatoes.
27:42
Speaker 1: And you guys like the go to Dosie's Market to
27:45
Speaker 1: grab a snack. No we we didn't, but the extras
27:48
Speaker 1: would sometimes take a chump, you know, some some gum.
27:54
Speaker 1: No no, no, you can't go into that stuff and
27:56
Speaker 1: and open it up and start eating it doing we
28:01
Speaker 1: might have to reshoot the whole episode because it won't match,
28:04
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, but it was those were great scenes.
28:08
Speaker 1: And I did not know what an ice cold egg
28:10
Speaker 1: cream was, or a black cow root beer and ice
28:15
Speaker 1: cream to go or chocolate FoST bade. What the hell
28:18
Speaker 1: is boss? Just it's just Dan Paladino firing on all cylinders,
28:24
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man, I mean, he hit it
28:26
Speaker 1: out of the park. I think in every single scene,
28:35
Speaker 1: it's a very gilmoury episode, do you know what I mean?
28:38
Speaker 1: Like as opposed to like last week, which I loved
28:41
Speaker 1: because there was so much drama, right, No, That's why
28:45
Speaker 1: I loved it so much, because it was really and
28:47
Speaker 1: I think in the original spirit with the show was
28:50
Speaker 1: meant to be, which is a lighthearted, buoyant drama y
28:54
Speaker 1: with a ton of laughs in it and a ton
28:56
Speaker 1: of absurd situations. But you know, just the fast back
28:59
Speaker 1: of I mean, it was just yeah, there really wasn't
29:03
Speaker 1: like a major drama like we had the week before.
29:06
Speaker 1: It was very what's the word, It's not slapsticky, but
29:09
Speaker 1: like comedy bung bung bung. But I think we needed
29:14
Speaker 1: it after the after Haunted leg We really needed an
29:17
Speaker 1: episode like that where we could just like breathe and
29:20
Speaker 1: enjoy it and like, okay, so probably come here for yeah,
29:26
Speaker 1: this is this is yeah, this is what I signed
29:28
Speaker 1: up for, right, Okay. So we go back to Lower
29:31
Speaker 1: Lies and they're talking about meeting Darren Springsteen and he's
29:36
Speaker 1: they're going to go have lunch with him. And so
29:38
Speaker 1: now this is where Dave Regowski calls the Answering Machine.
29:44
Speaker 1: And now I realized what you were saying, who is it?
29:48
Speaker 1: Did you when you saw them? Literally when I first thought,
29:53
Speaker 1: I was like, is that Adam Brody? But he looks
29:56
Speaker 1: like different, you know, different than like the o C
29:59
Speaker 1: at Brodie. So I was like, I googled it. I
30:02
Speaker 1: was like, you know this episode and I I was like,
30:04
Speaker 1: oh my god, that is Adam Brody, a little baby
30:08
Speaker 1: face Adam Brody because it was before the o C.
30:10
Speaker 1: So Scott, I don't know if you ever watched the
30:12
Speaker 1: o C, but like for us, that was a huge show.
30:17
Speaker 1: And Adam Brody, who I don't want to tell Danielle
30:20
Speaker 1: what happens, but he has quite an important part on
30:24
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls went on to star in the O C
30:28
Speaker 1: and like break out massive, Like he became a humongous
30:33
Speaker 1: star and the O C was like huge if you
30:38
Speaker 1: think about it, like the cast of Gilmore Girls is
30:42
Speaker 1: so iconic, Like Melissa McCarthy, you have Adam Brody, you
30:49
Speaker 1: had Seth McFarlane in one of the earlier episodes, Jane Lynch, Yeah, Alexis, Jared,
30:58
Speaker 1: I know all of them. It's so good. And don't
31:01
Speaker 1: knock my Matt Zukri, who literally is stars in The
31:04
Speaker 1: Resident and was on the Good Wife, Like it's crazy
31:08
Speaker 1: all the people. I'm gonna throw Chad Michael Murray in
31:12
Speaker 1: there too, because totally so anyway, that was very exciting
31:17
Speaker 1: to hear Adam Brodie's voice on the machine and know
31:19
Speaker 1: that he was coming and Okay, so then they go
31:23
Speaker 1: to the launch. I need you guys to just tell
31:26
Speaker 1: what you thought. I thought it was great. I thought
31:31
Speaker 1: it was Laura I had to contain herself. She couldn't
31:34
Speaker 1: be here. I mean, she got a couple of singers
31:36
Speaker 1: in and I really like the balance of that because
31:40
Speaker 1: it was like less is more. It's like you knew
31:42
Speaker 1: she was going to have some quip equips, right, and
31:45
Speaker 1: they were going to be great, and she did. And
31:47
Speaker 1: it's like, but she couldn't really you know, go nuts
31:53
Speaker 1: because she doesn't want to sabotage your kid exactly. She
31:57
Speaker 1: couldn't be her true self because she had to like
32:00
Speaker 1: she had to rein it in into this. Yeah. So um,
32:03
Speaker 1: but I just thought it was that actor was fantastic,
32:07
Speaker 1: That family was so cookie, and I like, I like
32:15
Speaker 1: to you know, when Laura I gave Rory that looked like,
32:18
Speaker 1: you know, is something like on tooward going on here
32:21
Speaker 1: between daddy and daughter. And there's so much to talk
32:28
Speaker 1: about this lunch because this is a major part the game,
32:33
Speaker 1: the like how smart are you game? Which I was like,
32:37
Speaker 1: I don't know one answer, not one answer. I was like, okay.
32:40
Speaker 1: Then he tried to like follow along and like, nope,
32:43
Speaker 1: I want to know what you guys think of this
32:46
Speaker 1: family and the two kids that are obviously on the
32:48
Speaker 1: IVY League college track and then the sister and why
32:53
Speaker 1: do you think Dan felt it was important to write
32:55
Speaker 1: that in and for Rory to have that exchange with
32:58
Speaker 1: the know the outlier sister, Well, it's you know, do
33:03
Speaker 1: you want to be on this? This is what it
33:05
Speaker 1: takes in this particular case to be on the conveyor belt,
33:09
Speaker 1: going to Harvard and having that kind of a life.
33:12
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a completely different level than I mean,
33:17
Speaker 1: that's that's a rare um rarefied air, you know um.
33:22
Speaker 1: And the one daughter who was on her own path,
33:26
Speaker 1: as the mother said, she's on her own bed. You know,
33:31
Speaker 1: it just shows what happens sometimes when you have parents
33:35
Speaker 1: that put all their hopes and dreams and their desires
33:38
Speaker 1: and their wants into their children, and are they and
33:40
Speaker 1: you have to ask the question is that really what
33:42
Speaker 1: the child wants? And how important is a child's wants
33:47
Speaker 1: and needs versus what guidance parents can give them? And
33:52
Speaker 1: you know, when does it become like, you know too much?
33:57
Speaker 1: So I think that's it was a great scene in
33:59
Speaker 1: that it it sort of contrasted all of those different
34:02
Speaker 1: options in different paths that people can possibly take, and yeah,
34:06
Speaker 1: and what does it take. Is Rory really cut out
34:08
Speaker 1: for this? I think the scene was there to say,
34:10
Speaker 1: is Rory really cut out for this? Is she on
34:13
Speaker 1: the conveyor belt because her mother is And her mother
34:16
Speaker 1: got off the conveyor belt and that was the whole point,
34:18
Speaker 1: that's the whole point of her life. And that independent
34:21
Speaker 1: street does not serve Rory. Well, perhaps going into a
34:25
Speaker 1: conveyor belt sort of a factory, which you could surmise
34:30
Speaker 1: a Harvard might be. Yeah, that's the family was so nice,
34:36
Speaker 1: like sugary sweets, so nice, but almost not likable for me,
34:40
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I like the sister, you know what
34:44
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it was so they were so perfect
34:48
Speaker 1: and so ivy league and so the perfect lunch and
34:52
Speaker 1: the whole thing where I liked the sister. I was like,
34:55
Speaker 1: that girl's cool. That was Laurel. That was Laurel as
35:01
Speaker 1: a as a teenager. Yeah, yeah, I felt bad for her.
35:06
Speaker 1: I really felt bad for Laurela. And I felt bad
35:09
Speaker 1: for that girl who was not on the conveyor belt
35:12
Speaker 1: because she's going to have a he's gonna have a
35:14
Speaker 1: hard life. And even if she finds happiness and she
35:18
Speaker 1: finds her own path good for her, she's still going
35:20
Speaker 1: to have that tension with her family. They're still gonna
35:22
Speaker 1: look down. So that was that was really walking into
35:25
Speaker 1: a sort of a Richard and Emily, a successful Richard
35:28
Speaker 1: and Emily family. Yeah. Yeah, because you know, the one
35:33
Speaker 1: daughter's going to Harvard, she's it was either in or
35:36
Speaker 1: she got accepted and she's on her way. Um, so
35:39
Speaker 1: this is showing Laurea La. Look, you're in another situation
35:42
Speaker 1: here with Richard and Emily. They're a little lighter version,
35:45
Speaker 1: maybe less wealthy, right, a little less well, I think
35:49
Speaker 1: they were more wealthy than those guys. Well if they're
35:52
Speaker 1: if they're buying, you know, artwork, if they're buying art
35:56
Speaker 1: at that level, then they're probably a very wealthy um. Um,
36:03
Speaker 1: most the name of that artist. She kept repeating, what
36:07
Speaker 1: was that? And then there was something about he's a
36:09
Speaker 1: student of Matise. And then someone says like, oh, yes,
36:12
Speaker 1: I know, only a Charlatan wouldn't were so fancy. They
36:17
Speaker 1: almost were pretentious, but yet they were so nice that
36:20
Speaker 1: they weren't pretentious. So you're like, I like them. But
36:24
Speaker 1: I think for me there was and I'll be interested
36:28
Speaker 1: to see what people say, because I think that there
36:29
Speaker 1: was more to that scene for me to take away
36:34
Speaker 1: in that the most likable people are the sister and
36:38
Speaker 1: Laurela if we're excluding Roy, because they were the most real,
36:42
Speaker 1: whereas the family Jack and Jennifer and Darren Springsteen and
36:46
Speaker 1: his wife are playing the part of the perfect family.
36:50
Speaker 1: But how do you know that maybe that's them being real.
36:55
Speaker 1: Maybe that's they're real, right, right, because Jack Jennifer were
37:00
Speaker 1: loving every minute of the going around the table and
37:04
Speaker 1: playing the smarty Pants game. You're right, but it was
37:09
Speaker 1: I think that that scene has more significance than just
37:15
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Well, it was interesting
37:18
Speaker 1: because you saw Rory Bean there, right, and that's that's
37:20
Speaker 1: what she aspires to be. She aspires to be a
37:23
Speaker 1: Harvard kid, and just kind of showing like, oh, this
37:26
Speaker 1: is kind of the stereotype of what a Harvard kid
37:29
Speaker 1: looks like and it's not really you you know, right,
37:33
Speaker 1: isn't Jack and Jennifer. So you're seeing that like dichotomy,
37:37
Speaker 1: like she's still going to go to Harvard, but she's
37:39
Speaker 1: not really these people's Scott. I'm okay, I'll never disagree
37:48
Speaker 1: with you again. I never that will never be any disagreement.
37:56
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like I do want to
37:58
Speaker 1: hear from everyone listening because I think that there's more
38:01
Speaker 1: that I was. I want to hear what people have
38:04
Speaker 1: to say about this scene because I feel like I
38:06
Speaker 1: wasn't getting or interpreting it exactly to the metaphor maybe
38:11
Speaker 1: that it was intended and maybe it was just a
38:13
Speaker 1: simple like these are fancy freaking Harvard people. But I
38:16
Speaker 1: want to know what people thought about that scene, because
38:19
Speaker 1: I sort of was like, oh, I think, look, I
38:23
Speaker 1: think there is a place for intellectual rigor, and I
38:27
Speaker 1: think it's necessary. It's a discipline, and it's a tradition,
38:31
Speaker 1: and it's important applying that to your every waking moment
38:38
Speaker 1: as regards your family, dinner time, lunch, wherever. You are
38:44
Speaker 1: constantly testing your kids. Okay, So I think that's what
38:50
Speaker 1: they want us to question, um as it relates to
38:56
Speaker 1: Rory and is she cut out for this world? Because
38:59
Speaker 1: this is just one example, maybe not the great example.
39:03
Speaker 1: Although there's a lot a lot good you can say
39:05
Speaker 1: about Jack Springsteen and his family. I mean, there are
39:08
Speaker 1: a lot of bad fathers out there who his friends.
39:12
Speaker 1: Darren Jack is the kid, Darren Jack, Darren Springsteen, thank
39:16
Speaker 1: you so much for the correction. I so appreciate you. Um.
39:23
Speaker 1: Have I told you how grateful I am? So so?
39:29
Speaker 1: UM Do you like Darren springste I do? I do?
39:34
Speaker 1: I do. I think he heard on the side of caution.
39:40
Speaker 1: He you know, sure, maybe he's a little over the
39:43
Speaker 1: top of everything, but but you know, he's setting a
39:47
Speaker 1: very high bar. And look, he liked Rory, and I
39:50
Speaker 1: thought it was great that he calls and was very
39:52
Speaker 1: impressed by her records and is going to help her
39:54
Speaker 1: get into Harvard. So like the lor like did the
39:57
Speaker 1: right thing by calling. You know, they're all freaking out.
39:59
Speaker 1: So really really stepped up as a mom and said, like,
40:02
Speaker 1: I'm going to help out my kid here, even though
40:04
Speaker 1: this isn't my world. Calls Headmaster Charlton and says, did
40:09
Speaker 1: I say that right, Headmaster Charleston? Yeah, you forgot that?
40:13
Speaker 1: Suddenly I was I would never correct you ever, that
40:18
Speaker 1: would put me in conflict with So that was like,
40:20
Speaker 1: you know, for Lorealy, she took the initiative. Did that
40:22
Speaker 1: you know, set up the lunch which we didn't talk
40:24
Speaker 1: about that funny scene when Rory is supposed to be
40:27
Speaker 1: calling him and then Lorelei pretends to be Rory. So
40:30
Speaker 1: that was all Lorealy did great there, like she really did.
40:34
Speaker 1: And so it was great to find out that, like
40:37
Speaker 1: Rory's records our Harvard quality. But for me that was like, oh,
40:45
Speaker 1: vomit in the mouth. These people like, oh god, yeah,
40:48
Speaker 1: it's definitely vomited in the mouth. But like we've been saying.
40:52
Speaker 1: I think that scene was on purpose. You know, you
40:54
Speaker 1: wanted to see that maybe this isn't the right fit
40:57
Speaker 1: for for Rory, and she needs to see what, you know,
41:01
Speaker 1: Harvard looks like on the outside. You know, it gives
41:05
Speaker 1: it gives me great comfort that there are families like that.
41:09
Speaker 1: I like that that there are Springsteen families like that.
41:12
Speaker 1: I like that there pressuring their kids. I like that
41:16
Speaker 1: they're I do it to me, it's I see what
41:20
Speaker 1: you're saying. You like that the father and the mother
41:24
Speaker 1: wanted their kids to achieve I do. I think. I
41:30
Speaker 1: think a lot of fathers and mothers really screw up
41:32
Speaker 1: their kids. And if these if the daughter is a
41:37
Speaker 1: little screwed up in her ways, and but at least
41:40
Speaker 1: she's going to Harvard. I mean, there's there's nothing bad
41:43
Speaker 1: you can say about that. And again maybe it's my
41:47
Speaker 1: I don't know, two eyes, but there was just some
41:50
Speaker 1: excessive privilege in that family where you're just like, oh,
41:55
Speaker 1: but then they got the daughter that's the waitress and
41:57
Speaker 1: going to the be the birthday party Bunny, and I
41:59
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, I'm really glad they showed that.
42:05
Speaker 1: Like that kid too, And at first, when they're like, oh,
42:09
Speaker 1: you know about the third kid, she's following her own path.
42:11
Speaker 1: I almost thought she wasn't there, Like when you first
42:15
Speaker 1: hear that, you're like, oh, she's off somewhere. So it
42:18
Speaker 1: was nice to see her room, her funky bedroom, and
42:21
Speaker 1: her bunny. You know. I liked the way the whole
42:23
Speaker 1: thing came together because of that third sister. I'd like
42:27
Speaker 1: to know more about the third sister and why does
42:30
Speaker 1: she not have the intellectual capacity? Does she not have
42:32
Speaker 1: the study habits? Does she not have the discipline to
42:36
Speaker 1: do the level of work it takes to get into
42:38
Speaker 1: a position to be accepted and Harvard that's a lot
42:40
Speaker 1: of work. And and you can say privilege till the
42:44
Speaker 1: cows come home, but but I don't know that a
42:47
Speaker 1: lot of people have been accepted, uh to an institution
42:52
Speaker 1: that difficult to get into without working their tails. My
42:56
Speaker 1: interesting question because my takeaway on Carol was Carol could
43:00
Speaker 1: have been capable of going to Harvard. She didn't want it.
43:03
Speaker 1: She said, my parents want that, and Jack and Jennifer
43:07
Speaker 1: want to please my parents. And then she said, I
43:10
Speaker 1: love how she called Rory Harvard hair because it was like, oh, yeah,
43:15
Speaker 1: you're on the track. But I like that she was
43:17
Speaker 1: saying I didn't want it. So even though there's Harvard
43:21
Speaker 1: all over this place and it was basically kind of
43:24
Speaker 1: could have been handed to me on a silver platter,
43:26
Speaker 1: I didn't want it. And it's okay that I didn't
43:30
Speaker 1: want it, maybe as sort of a metaphor to Lorela,
43:33
Speaker 1: like it's okay that Laura La didn't go that route
43:37
Speaker 1: and Rory can if that's what she wants. I don't know,
43:41
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm reading into it too much. No, No, I think, uh,
43:46
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they had the same, you know, a
43:50
Speaker 1: milder reaction that Richard Andly have towards Laurela not going
43:55
Speaker 1: staying on the conveyor belt than that girl had with
43:58
Speaker 1: her parents. But still there was some disappointment obviously in
44:02
Speaker 1: their voices and their attitude towards the daughter. And I
44:05
Speaker 1: think that's you know, that can damage that daughter. Yes,
44:09
Speaker 1: that's a great point, because right the mom and dad Springsteen,
44:13
Speaker 1: Mr and Mrs Springsteen weren't overly thrilled with Carol. But
44:17
Speaker 1: I thought the significance of Carol was so important because
44:20
Speaker 1: Carol was thrilled with Carol. Carol was like, I'm I'm good. Well.
44:25
Speaker 1: I think it's also maybe the parents feel guilty that
44:27
Speaker 1: they didn't spend the time with her, uh and give
44:32
Speaker 1: her all of the options that they gave their daughter
44:34
Speaker 1: who got accepted the other daughter. Maybe they weren't as
44:38
Speaker 1: attentive with that daughter and exploring, you know, what her
44:42
Speaker 1: where her talents lie. And that's the responsibility of a
44:45
Speaker 1: parent when a child is young. It's like, let them
44:47
Speaker 1: try a million things, Let's see what they're good at,
44:50
Speaker 1: and you know, if they love that, then let's you
44:53
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I mean, keep them more around.
44:55
Speaker 1: My My takeaway on Carol is she what's that saying?
44:58
Speaker 1: She beats to the sound of her own drum? Like
45:00
Speaker 1: Carol just was like I don't want that, but I'm
45:03
Speaker 1: not doing that. I was more interesting. I wanted to
45:06
Speaker 1: know more about that girl. Why right? How do fall off?
45:13
Speaker 1: There's definitely significance to the whole thing, because otherwise it
45:17
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been so prominent. We could have just left
45:19
Speaker 1: it with, Oh, Carol goes to her own you know way,
45:23
Speaker 1: like she's following her own path anyway. Yeah, this to
45:28
Speaker 1: me was the scene that was the most like, what
45:30
Speaker 1: am I not getting here? Anyway. Okay, So then we
45:33
Speaker 1: go to the town meeting, which is just my favorite
45:35
Speaker 1: thing ever and it is just so to shop time,
45:40
Speaker 1: and Taylor has the diorama of the soda shot. How
45:44
Speaker 1: do we feel about Laurela not supporting Luke in that
45:49
Speaker 1: town meeting? Okay? I didn't look at it that way
45:52
Speaker 1: because I just looked at like the whole town wants
45:54
Speaker 1: the soda shop. They're just like and and it was
45:59
Speaker 1: the hesitancy, like like we don't want to, we don't
46:01
Speaker 1: want to not support you, Luke, but like we really
46:03
Speaker 1: want like a black cow egg cream or phosphate whatever.
46:08
Speaker 1: So he was having such a problem with it because
46:10
Speaker 1: it was Taylor right right, but Luke being Luke, just
46:18
Speaker 1: Luke doing Luke totally. I love that Taylor calls out
46:21
Speaker 1: some obscure law that like I can make you rent
46:25
Speaker 1: it to me and looks like DUTs for a Civil
46:28
Speaker 1: War hospital, Bro, you can't do that with an ice
46:35
Speaker 1: cream store. He needed to back off on that little man.
46:40
Speaker 1: He just needed to just let it happen. Yeah, Okay,
46:47
Speaker 1: So then Kirk wants a job and then here he
46:51
Speaker 1: comes Dave Regowski. What do you think? So I really
46:56
Speaker 1: liked the scene where they were like sitting together and
46:59
Speaker 1: on the park bench. I guess you would say what
47:01
Speaker 1: you would call it. And I like the two of
47:03
Speaker 1: them together. I think there's gonna be some some cute,
47:07
Speaker 1: little flirty flirt action happening. And I see it. I'm
47:11
Speaker 1: like that they're they're they're cute together. I like the dynamic.
47:15
Speaker 1: She said, I love you and I want this so bad.
47:24
Speaker 1: I want it for her so bad. Yeah. I like that.
47:27
Speaker 1: That's just sort of spicing things up for her. And
47:30
Speaker 1: then Dean also sidebar, like they had the fanciest like
47:34
Speaker 1: coffee kart serving treats at the town meeting. What happened
47:40
Speaker 1: was that about Luke Luke's was open, right, It's not
47:43
Speaker 1: it's Luke's open or closed. It was. It's not closed
47:46
Speaker 1: during a town meeting. It's it's yeah because somebody runs it.
47:49
Speaker 1: When how is there a coffee car down in front,
47:52
Speaker 1: a fancy coffee car like I think it had like
47:58
Speaker 1: bakery treats to her Luke's business right there, Taylor. That's
48:02
Speaker 1: Taylor being diabolical. Alright, so talk about it. What do
48:06
Speaker 1: you think about Dean kind of saying to Rory, what's
48:10
Speaker 1: going to happen when you go to college. That guy,
48:13
Speaker 1: he's a buzz so much to unpack there. Wow, God,
48:24
Speaker 1: I know we were just so pleased with him in
48:25
Speaker 1: the diner earlier and that it's like so we needed
48:29
Speaker 1: this because for the last few weeks he's been kind
48:33
Speaker 1: of not bowing down to Rory, but like, oh, are
48:37
Speaker 1: you sure you're not just as out of town now? Yes, okay, greed,
48:40
Speaker 1: we can move on, you know, Like he's just been
48:42
Speaker 1: very like go with the flow, like yeah, yeah, whatever
48:46
Speaker 1: Rory says. And now it's like, oh no, he's having
48:51
Speaker 1: the doubts now, which breaks my realistic though. Please, like
48:56
Speaker 1: they're going to stay together when she goes to Harvard.
49:00
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, she's going to be in this
49:02
Speaker 1: completely new world. She's not gonna want to come home
49:04
Speaker 1: every weekend. Look, if he wants to go to a
49:08
Speaker 1: junior college in Boston to be near her while she's
49:11
Speaker 1: going at Harvard, the only way that that could possibly
49:15
Speaker 1: work is if he is really just super oke, cool
49:22
Speaker 1: with everything and happy with his own life and a
49:25
Speaker 1: dynamic guy, and he's a genius in his own right.
49:28
Speaker 1: He happens to be in junior college, which is no
49:31
Speaker 1: shame in that. Um. But it's gonna be hard for
49:35
Speaker 1: her socially. Um Again, I mean, you know he he
49:39
Speaker 1: was he accepted at Chiltern? Was was Was he embarrassed
49:43
Speaker 1: to be at Chiltern? Or does he feel inferior walking
49:45
Speaker 1: up to Chiltern? How's he gonna feel when he walks
49:47
Speaker 1: into Harvard saying, Oh, I'm here to get Rory and where?
49:51
Speaker 1: Oh so are you going to Harvard? No? I'm over
49:53
Speaker 1: there at you know, run a mead City college, you
49:58
Speaker 1: know by the heart by the river. Um. You know
50:01
Speaker 1: how we all know that Dean is just going to
50:03
Speaker 1: melt down if he's in that scenario. He just doesn't
50:07
Speaker 1: have the he doesn't have the stuff to get through it.
50:10
Speaker 1: And he she that girl makes him so nervous. She's
50:15
Speaker 1: given him so many reasons to be insecure, And he
50:18
Speaker 1: was a very everything you're saying. I also think it
50:21
Speaker 1: was impressive, if that's the right word, that he was
50:24
Speaker 1: being so realistic and saying like, hey, we kind of
50:26
Speaker 1: like should talk about this wait, because literally it totally
50:30
Speaker 1: made me sad because I feel like he was like
50:33
Speaker 1: literally like he had the realization that everything he was
50:37
Speaker 1: fighting for for so long is maybe not really gonna happen,
50:42
Speaker 1: you know, like he's been fighting for this relationship for
50:45
Speaker 1: so long, going through all the bs that Rory has
50:47
Speaker 1: put him through, still sticking by, and then he has
50:50
Speaker 1: this moment where he's like, but wait, like, is that
50:54
Speaker 1: is all I just went through? Worth it? You know?
50:56
Speaker 1: Like it just made me sad? Yeah, it was. It
51:00
Speaker 1: was sad because it's also accurate. They're not going to
51:03
Speaker 1: stay together. No, I mean for maybe for a little while,
51:07
Speaker 1: but then it's just gonna He'll meet somebody, She'll meet somebody.
51:11
Speaker 1: And I thought there was some significance to Jackson mentioning
51:15
Speaker 1: the tools to Lorelei because she realized, like Glory's leaving.
51:21
Speaker 1: So I think Diana more Lee had the same realization
51:25
Speaker 1: in the same an. I kind of think, if I
51:27
Speaker 1: could interject here, um, I thought that that was a
51:33
Speaker 1: bit insensitive of Jackson too. Yeah, I agree, you know,
51:39
Speaker 1: the body is still warm. What what are you moving
51:45
Speaker 1: your tools in there now for? But I think if
51:48
Speaker 1: we like take ourselves out of it, I think, like
51:50
Speaker 1: you were saying that, Dan Palladino wrote this episode so
51:53
Speaker 1: perfectly because it was that moment where Dean's realistic to
51:58
Speaker 1: Rory like we're not going to stay together, like you're
52:00
Speaker 1: going to college, you can't come home every again. And
52:03
Speaker 1: Jackson points out to Rory like, hey, you're gonna have
52:05
Speaker 1: an empty room at your house, like you're gonna be
52:07
Speaker 1: all alone. And it was sort of shrouded in this
52:10
Speaker 1: tool thing, which was weird but whatever. I was sort
52:14
Speaker 1: of like, is he gonna rent that room? Like what's happening.
52:17
Speaker 1: But it was the significance of her realizing Rory is
52:21
Speaker 1: going to be gone. Yeah, I'm gonna be here alone.
52:23
Speaker 1: That was the point of the entire episode together to
52:27
Speaker 1: that moment, and it was a powerful moment when we
52:30
Speaker 1: have that sort of um, you know, waste upshot of
52:35
Speaker 1: her looking off to Rory like going into the duner
52:39
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to be with her much longer.
52:41
Speaker 1: She's going away. And that's why I think it was
52:45
Speaker 1: such a glorious Gilmour episode, because that's what that show
52:49
Speaker 1: does best. In my opinion. That's why I responded so
52:54
Speaker 1: negatively to the melodrama from or the drama from Haunted
52:59
Speaker 1: Leg because I don't that's not the show for me.
53:03
Speaker 1: For me, For me, it's both. It's both because there
53:07
Speaker 1: are many scenes that I love, like last week, but
53:10
Speaker 1: you're right, like we went, we go through these Shenanigans
53:13
Speaker 1: or Gilmore antics, like the goofy Springsteen family to get
53:19
Speaker 1: to the significant meaning for everyone's life. Keep it light,
53:25
Speaker 1: keep it funny, and then we can have a poignant
53:30
Speaker 1: moment at the end or here and there sprinkled in
53:33
Speaker 1: to just sort of elevate everything or even bring it
53:36
Speaker 1: back down to reality where everything seems so heightened because
53:40
Speaker 1: of where it came from. I mean, it was just
53:43
Speaker 1: such a perfect you needed that Dean moment, like Dan
53:47
Speaker 1: Jackson moment. Dan set out to write something to get
53:51
Speaker 1: to that ending, and absolutely brilliant to mean the significant.
53:56
Speaker 1: I agree with you because the significance was that Rory
53:59
Speaker 1: and Laura Lie we're going to hang out. Remember they
54:02
Speaker 1: change their plans. Lorea Lie is not going to do
54:04
Speaker 1: the billing or whatever, and Rory isn't going to do
54:07
Speaker 1: whatever she was going to do because ultimately those two
54:10
Speaker 1: want to spend time together. So it didn't become about Dean.
54:13
Speaker 1: It's it's Rory and Laurea Lie. And again he's so
54:17
Speaker 1: brilliant how you like, and it's so subtle. It's just
54:19
Speaker 1: a tiny, little thing like I hang out, let's cancel
54:23
Speaker 1: what we're doing, because that's ultimately right relationship, right. It
54:28
Speaker 1: shows us how valuable time is when you're with your
54:30
Speaker 1: loved ones time. We don't have much time left, and
54:35
Speaker 1: so let's take this time to do it. And I feel,
54:38
Speaker 1: I mean, it just got me. It put a lump
54:40
Speaker 1: in my throat. I made. I made it like I
54:43
Speaker 1: made a decision to go to the gym this morning
54:45
Speaker 1: real quick and not spend an hour with my kid
54:48
Speaker 1: having breakfast. I made him breakfast and left it, and
54:51
Speaker 1: I was like driving there, going I want to turn
54:53
Speaker 1: around and go spend time with Nick because every second
54:56
Speaker 1: with him his magic. You know what. I think you're
54:58
Speaker 1: right because I think ultimately it comes back to mom
55:02
Speaker 1: and daughter too. Always in the show, like we always
55:05
Speaker 1: are analyzing what is it, and it's always back to
55:08
Speaker 1: Rory and Laura La. And I think that's also the
55:11
Speaker 1: significance when we see Luke's and we see Taylor has
55:15
Speaker 1: already got the sign made obviously he did it weeks ago,
55:18
Speaker 1: and then we panned through town and we see the
55:21
Speaker 1: Troubadour and it's just to give us that moment of
55:24
Speaker 1: like letting it all sink in whoa yeah that that
55:29
Speaker 1: this episode made me forgive all of the other not
55:34
Speaker 1: a lot of them, but some of the episodes that
55:36
Speaker 1: I thought didn't really hit the mark, you know, but
55:40
Speaker 1: serve their purpose in some ways. You know. It's so
55:43
Speaker 1: funny because when I'm watching it, it wasn't my favorite.
55:47
Speaker 1: I the other stand out to me more like when
55:51
Speaker 1: I have that kind of scene with Christopher and Lore, like, oh,
55:53
Speaker 1: I love this, but now as we're talking about it,
55:56
Speaker 1: I see it allows me to see the significance of
55:59
Speaker 1: it because it's so soft and subtle, and then you're like, oh, wait,
56:03
Speaker 1: that's what the whole show is about. Yeah, and I
56:08
Speaker 1: you know, I think, right, it's let it's let Luke
56:12
Speaker 1: be Luke. They let everybody be themselves, right, Luke ranting
56:16
Speaker 1: through the whole thing. And Dean wasn't so twirpy like
56:20
Speaker 1: they let Dean be Dean or Dean was almost cool
56:24
Speaker 1: and almost smart, Like you're like, oh, wow, he's really
56:27
Speaker 1: intuitive here. Like I don't mean almost smart, like he's
56:30
Speaker 1: some ding dong, but like you know what I mean,
56:31
Speaker 1: like where he was really like intuitive about the future.
56:37
Speaker 1: I would I would point to this episode is really
56:40
Speaker 1: capturing the tone the original spirit of yeah from from
56:45
Speaker 1: moment one. Yeah, I mean it really just captured the
56:49
Speaker 1: tone of this and it was so powerful at the end.
56:54
Speaker 1: It really was. I mean it was unexpectedly powerful. And
56:57
Speaker 1: she just looked. She just looked. And then there's a
57:00
Speaker 1: pan to the towner and the two of them walking in,
57:03
Speaker 1: and it's like, man, who can't relate to that? You know,
57:07
Speaker 1: who's had kids or even it has been a daughter
57:11
Speaker 1: or son. You know, it's like, wow, I'll give a
57:14
Speaker 1: quick fashion. They love to put lord ly in florals.
57:17
Speaker 1: And she's loving a necklace like always this sort of
57:20
Speaker 1: a prominent necklace in the last few And I thought
57:22
Speaker 1: Lauren's hair was particularly excellent in this episode, like something's
57:27
Speaker 1: going on with her hair where I'm like, wow, is
57:29
Speaker 1: sher a curl to it? Like she looked cool? Yeah,
57:33
Speaker 1: well I gave my favorite line, what was yours? I
57:35
Speaker 1: really like Jackson's hair in this. I thought David Galcie's
57:42
Speaker 1: hair was pretty good too, does have great hair. His
57:49
Speaker 1: argyle sweater. I like me some Adam Brody. I'm not
57:51
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I love Adam Brodie. It's always confusing because
57:55
Speaker 1: Adam Brody in real life married the girl from Gossip Girl.
58:00
Speaker 1: Very confusing. He married Rachel Bilson no late, okay, and
58:05
Speaker 1: then Rachel Bilson's the girl from the o C. Yeah,
58:08
Speaker 1: so Adam Brody married the girl from Gossip Girl. Just
58:11
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. Daniels, you have a favorite line, Um, yeah,
58:16
Speaker 1: my favorite line is Rory goes I think we need
58:18
Speaker 1: therapy and literalized says I think we need some booze
58:21
Speaker 1: for those of us that are twenty one. Um. Yeah,
58:29
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to old Lukey on the soda line. Um,
58:35
Speaker 1: do you have money and paid attention to We need
58:40
Speaker 1: to those kids givin you got money? So good? Um
58:48
Speaker 1: all got along. It wasn't boring, No, I mean, Dan Palladino,
58:53
Speaker 1: hats off to you. You wrote the hell out of
58:55
Speaker 1: that episode. I mean that was just a fever dream
58:58
Speaker 1: of of an episode. Dialogue E and it's it's it's
59:02
Speaker 1: it's how do you The challenge is how do you
59:05
Speaker 1: make that much dialogue compelling? You know? That's the challenge.
59:11
Speaker 1: He made that much dialogue really active and compelling and
59:15
Speaker 1: filled with action, even though there were set pieces all
59:18
Speaker 1: over the place. It was. It was wonderful episode. I
59:21
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. I almost went back and watched it,
59:23
Speaker 1: but I was Yeah, I had to get Nick the bed,
59:27
Speaker 1: but yeah, it would be a good one to watch again. Yeah,
59:30
Speaker 1: meaning you know, your third, fourth, fifth, because it's so dense.
59:34
Speaker 1: That's one I would watch repeatedly because it's just man,
59:40
Speaker 1: it demanded your attention. So anyway, what's what episodes next week? Daniel?
59:48
Speaker 1: On the next episode is one's got class and the
59:51
Speaker 1: other one dies? Oh gosh, that sounds mensota challenging, ching,
59:56
Speaker 1: whoa see it? Then? All right, so anyway, thank you everyone.
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1:00:21
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1:00:27
Speaker 1: it's not you, No, I do. They tell trust me,
1:00:31
Speaker 1: They comment on that like every week. Really that I
1:00:34
Speaker 1: get very excited, So I do it. Yeah, I'll work
1:00:36
Speaker 1: on it. It's probably one of my things I need
1:00:39
Speaker 1: to work on. In life, so I appreciate them pointing
1:00:41
Speaker 1: it out. But now the thing is is, you know,
1:00:43
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1:00:49
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1:00:52
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