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Can The Eagles Replicate Last Season? (PST Episode 526) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Hey, everybody, it's Jeff. Just wanted to let you know that this
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  podcast episode was recorded on Wednesday, August ninth, twenty twenty three. By
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  the time you hear this, things may have changed a little bit here and
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  there, but we hope you enjoy the show. All right, everybody,
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  you're listening to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly
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  sports podcast show in the world. That's right over ten years strong. It
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  is Wednesday, August nine, twenty twenty three when we are recording this episode.
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  And we got a great discussion coming your way. My gosh, I
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  feel tired already, and I'll get to that for in just a second.
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  My throat my voice. Dear freaking lord, I'm Jeff Warren and I'm here
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  at my good buddy Eric Leonard. Oh my gosh, Eric, how you
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  how you doing? I know we were talking before I hit the record button.
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  How are you doing? I'm fine. I think we should start to
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  show over. I didn't feel for you. It was lackluster the interest.
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  I don't feel welcome to the show. You really set the stage for me,
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  and I feel like I'm walking out to a paltry crowd. Can you
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  let's do it again. I feel like hell. I can't believe I'm a
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  want to laugh like that too. Okay, folks, So yeah, I've
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  been dealing with it. If you all can, for you long time listeners,
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  if you remember back to the Super Bowl and I could barely talk,
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  I had a virus on my vocal box. I've had some bizarre and weird
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  like upper gi stuff going on. Long story short, things are still persisting
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  here. And I have this catheter that has these sensors in it going up
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  my nose, down my throat, into my esophaguess right at the top of
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  my stomach. And it is a horrendous feeling right now. I almost wasn't
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  able to get that out right there because of my throat. Oh hold on
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  for a second. I'm serious. I gotta take a drink. I'm gonna
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  have to drink like constantly throughout the show. Here, Eric, we're all
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  waiting, Okay, sorry, there we go. I got to drink.
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  This is the most this is hell. This is actually hell right now,
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  what I'm dealing with. Do you want me to step in? I mean,
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  I'll help it out. You're good, You're good, I mean,
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  we're good. So anyway, if I if I have some issues throughout the
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  show, folks, that is why I have this thing coming out of my
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  freaking nose. And it's up my nose and down my throat and into my
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  sofa guess, and it's not fun. I'll wow the audience with some just
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  classic Carrick leonards. Okay, start us off. Well, you know when
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  Uncle Lenn watch my dog back in the day in Philadelphia, I asked me,
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  babysit my dog. Greatest story ever, folks, you're gonna hear right
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  now about so while Jeff gets a drink. It's two thousand and two,
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  I think somewhere in there, and I went up to Jeff's to go see
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  Hate Bread live in a concert and I std Uncle Len, because you're still
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  living with his parents. I say, do you want to come and watch
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  my dog for me? I know you got you know, you want to
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  get out of the house. You can hang out and drink and watch TV.
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  And I was gone for three or four hours, maybe four or five.
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  I get home from my apartment and the TV's blaring, the lights are
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  on. I opened the door. I opened my apartment door and there's no
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  one around, and my dog's laying in front of the bathroom door, and
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  this is a pretty cell phone, and I just go Len, and all
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  I hear from the bathroom is get me the fuck out of here. My
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  bathroom door broke, The door knob broke, and Lynn was stuck. Lynn
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  was trapped in my bathroom for three hours. He sat in the bathtub and
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  looked at some magazines I had in there and drank water out of the sink
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  until I got home and let him out. The greatest Len's story of all
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  time. It's my favorite story ever. I think of him well because he's
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  Charlie Brown. It's the most Charlie Brown story of all times. Yeah.
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  And my dog, my poor dog's whimpering in front of the door, and
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  I'm like, the dog had free range of the apartment and the human we
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  stuck in the bathroom, right, Yeah, And of course it was lend.
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  What a great story, fantastic story. I appreciate that I was able
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  to take a few SIPs here of my beverage and just to let everybody to
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  know, we've got a great show. We're certainly gonna be talking about this
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  Philadelphia Phillies team and the fact that Michael Lorenzen just now hit or he pitched
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  a no hitter, my gosh, the fourteenth no hitter in Philadelphia Phillies history.
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  Eric and I are going to get into that and just really kind of
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  also talk about this team and where they can still improve for the remainder of
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  the season. Definitely got a ton of Phillies talk coming your way right off
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  the bat, and then got to get into some football talk as well.
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  We know the preseason is here, training camp for all thirty two NFL teams
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  is here. We see in the coverage. However, I know that we're
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  getting tired of hearing about certain players, So we're gonna talk about which NFL
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  player just from any team we are getting incredibly tired of hearing about. And
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  then from there got a ton of Eagles talk. Eric and I are going
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  to talk about the signing of linebackers Miles Jack and Zach Cunningham after Nakobe Dean's
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  ankle injury and the cutting of davey On Taylor, and just how we're gonna
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  be feeling about this linebacker position heading into the season with these acquisitions. And
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  then when we're thrown down on the table this week, I'm gonna be talking
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  with Oj Spivey, the award winning sports and culture journalists from the Philadelphia Tribune.
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  He is going to join us for a look at this Eagles team as
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  they're in a thicket training camp here. So that's gonna be a great discussion
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  with Oj Spivey and Eric. I do have to say, man, like
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  I have been to get us to get us talking first here about like an
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  experience that we just had. And I know we've talked music on this show
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  and our PST specials, which folks, you can go on to our website
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  Philadelphia Sportstable dot com and check out the PSD specials there. I've done some
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  music stuff here, but music is so important to you and I and we
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  had a fantastic experience this past week and listen, I know that metal music
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  might not be you know, everybody's you know, cup of tea or whatever,
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  and metal music might not be everybody's favorite genre out there, but we
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  had an amazing experience this past weekend and we kind of just wanted to talk
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  about it here and get into getting up in the mid forties here our age
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  and having that type of experience was really cool. It was really great and
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  just there were some little little things here, a little nuances here and there,
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  and little stories about our experience that we wanted to get into. So
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  buddy, why why don't you let folks know what I'm talking about here and
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  we'll kind of just talk about the experience. Yeah, it was fun.
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  Saturday night, Lamb of God and Pantera played Hershey Park Arena or I'm sorry
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  stadium and uh. Through my daughter's dance school, you could volunteer to be
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  an usher, and I volunte tire Jeff and I to be an ushroom.
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  We got in and it was it was weird. We got there and we
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  didn't know where to go. We walked all over the place, finally found
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  we're supposed to be and it was a lot of like older people, so
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  I think, do it all the time out of fun, out of the
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  house, and a lot of i'll just say it, mouth breathers with tattoos
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  who wanted to go to the show. Yes, it was. It was
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  an interesting crowd, and I think Jeff and I stood out right away as
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  like two people that kind of were able bodied and kind of had our ship
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  together. So we we kind of finagled our way up to probably the best
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  spot in the house. We were right by the pit and we were handing
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  out wristbands to go in and out of the pit, and it was hilarious
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  because Pantera's in their upper fifties. The remaining members are their upper fifties.
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  Lamb of Gods, you know my age. This is my fourteenth time seeing
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  Lamb of God. I mean I had beers with them back in the day
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  in Philadelphia, like in two thousand and two thousand and one. And uh.
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  But the security guy came over and he's like, listen, this is
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  a metal crowd. People. They're gonna be ripping chairs apart and throwing fists
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  and punching, and this is gonna be an ugly, ugly crowd. Yeah,
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  you gotta watch for the chairs. Man. You gotta hear this older
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  guy I've got his name is Larry. I don't care, I'm gonna say
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  his name name. Good old hey Larry. He's like, seriously, you
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  gotta watch out for the chairs. There's been reports that this band, you
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  know, their fans are just ripping apart chairs it shows, and just throwing
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  them around and stuff. Meanwhile, Eric, you and I are kind of
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  like looking at each other and thinking to ourselves, what God's name is this
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  guy talking about? Like what is he talking about? It's like I've actually,
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  you've seen Lamb of God fourteen times. I think. I think this
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  past week was my tenth time seeing them, and I do not ever remember
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  anything like that happening, even like fifteen years ago when we were seeing them.
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  I mean, I remember an O two you broke your nose at the
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  Hatebread show. Yes, I've been to some violent metal Slayer being really violent.
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  I've been to hardcore shows where people got punched in the face. And
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  to me, like, this was a this was a hard this was like
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  a classic metal rock show where the audience was going to be like in their
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  forties and fifties. And I think Larry was reading headlines from ninety three nineteen
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  ninety three when Panteri shows were really violent and we were just leak there like
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  this is no And within twenty minutes of people come into the show, Jeff
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  and I were like, oh my god, there were people who needed There
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  were guys who needed help to their chairs. Yes they had a braces on,
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  yes, canes, And I'm like, these they're not going to take
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  the chairs apart they need them from balance. Yes, like Jeff at one
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  point like there's no wait, there's any violent there was, nothing had happened
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  that was wild. There were a couple of drunk people. One guy offered
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  Jeff twenty bucks get into the pit area. Yep, that was pretty much
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  the wildest thing we saw and u but but still it was really cool to
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  be that close to the show. Lambagow was fantastic. It was a cool
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  experience and it was kind of it was really cool just kind of seeing the
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  backstage kind of happened behind you before a show. And then unfortunately, I
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  mean Pantera came on and it was quickly realized like, oh, this is
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  like a Panteric cover band. Yeah, there's still two live members, and
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  it was sad really quickly. Actually, it was interesting for me that what
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  the lambagad drummer of Art Cruise I think is his name correct, Yeah,
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  yeah, Art Cruise. He we saw him a number of times just walking
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  out in the in the general public. And I know that that may sound
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  like, Okay, who cares he's walking around, but you know, he
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  probably did have one of the security guys with it. I don't even know
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  if the guy was a security guy, but all he wanted to do was
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  take pictures of the coasters at Hershey Park. And he's walked, sorry,
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  and he's walked walking around and he is just he walked through the pit and
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  nobody knew him. Nobody even recognized the guys. So it was exactly,
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  yes, exactly, And what amazed me is that people need to see famous
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  people at times, or very well known people at times within a certain genre,
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  whether it's music, acting, whatever art form it is, you need
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  to see them doing that performance within that art form in order to recognize them.
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  Again, he was walking through the pit and nobody recognized him at all,
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  to be like, oh my god, art, how you doing?
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  Man? Do you mind signing this or whatever? It was amazing and I
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  really just kind of took a step back from that and was like, wow,
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  this guy has First off, not that he would have any fear of
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  going out in public or anything, but you know, you could get a
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  bunch of people just around you when you're not in that headspace. You know,
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  you don't want to you with the general public at times because you are
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  famous in that certain realm. But he didn't care. He didn't care,
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  and it was really cool and interesting to see. Well, let's let's not
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  forget why guys get into bands to begin with, what's the genesis of it?
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  Typically right, talent, the music, and girls. Right. And
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  he's the youngest member of the band. He's single, the only single member
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  of the band. Glick and dude tatted up good shape. He was definitely
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  looking. I think he was like scoping out girls. I think that was
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  definitely what he was doing. That, yes, for sure, because I
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  mean he picked out the wrong crowd in hindsight, Oh yes he did.
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  We kind of walked. Yeah, I've used this term on the show before.
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  Rode hard and put Away wet. Quite a bit of that going on.
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  Some girls that have you know, or some women that have not been
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  out to a show in twenty years. God bless him. You know,
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  they were out. But it was funny watching because I thought the same thing,
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  like, wow, he's just walking around, but you know, at
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  the same time, like he's he's probably looking for girls. Yeah, yeah,
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  we have to talk about We worked with this woman. We have talked
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  about Joe, Joe, We love Joe, Joe is fantastic. Joe's an
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  older woman. She had no clue what Lamb of God and Pantera was like
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  even his band. She had no concept of it at all. And she
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  works a lot of shows, and after Lamb of God played, she came
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  to Jeff and I and just said, excuse me, are you into this
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  music? Yeah? Do you like this music? Yeah? We're like,
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  oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I's my fourteen time just seeing them.
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  She's like, really, that's Satanic band. You really enjoy that music.
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  It's like, ohoh, it's like, wait, wait a minute, where
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  did you go with this? Like sat no ken, She goes, look
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  at those symbols. Look at those symbols on the stage that they have,
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  like the art work up there, look at those symbols. That's Satanic.
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  And I said, Joe, Joe, I go, come on, I
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  go no, No, I said, they're not. I said, I
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  said, I absolutely promise they are not say tanic. I said, we've
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  been listening to this band basically since they started, and you know, it's
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  been decades that we've been listening to this band and buying their music and listening
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  to it. I said, they're not Satanic. I promise. I don't
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  think I convinced her, but I was. I was. I was trying
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  to make light of it. In a way of my gosh, this is
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  utterly ridiculous right now, that this woman is trying to tell us that this
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  band who who, We know their catalog very well, we understand this band
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  very well, Eric, and she's trying to tell us that they're Satanic just
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  because they had a few symbols with their artwork on stage. And at one
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  point I was trying to hide the tattoo on my left arm because one of
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  the symbols she was talking about the bird from Ashes of the Wake, and
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  I have a text in my left bicep, and I was like, I
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  hope she doesn't think I'm Satanic. I'm like that bird is like anti war,
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  it has nothing to do with Satan. And I heard some of her
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  symbolism she was trying to describe and I was just like, ah, Joe,
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  I love you love Christian music. You told us, you know.
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  And it was very funny when she said her son in law when she said
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  she was going to see or work the pantry Lamba Goot show, and someone
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  was like, do you have any idea what that is? She didn't even
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  like she didn't she didn't know. I mean, yeah, she was very
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  concerned and because she did tell us that she listened to Christian music. I
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  genuinely think. We asked her about it, and she she claimed, no,
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  that it wasn't like that, it wasn't like this, but she was
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  like, I could have she signed up for that because she thought Lamb of
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  God was actually a Christian band. She had to him, I know,
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  and I wanted to ask her that question, but I didn't want to make
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  it feel stupid, so I didn't say it. Yeah, but Joe wonderful
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  woman. I absolutely like, I love my time with her. Hanging out
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  with her at the show very sweet and uh and if I if I you
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  know, I worked another show, I hope she's there. Yeah. That
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  was fun. Man, it was man like just to see the machine that
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  goes into it and that's like a small that was what eight thousand to ten
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  thousand people, eight to ten thousand, yep. You can only imagine what
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  goes into like a Taylor Swift show, Metallica, the Metallica shows that are
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  going on. Lee hell Man, there was so many trucks and people and
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  just and just just watching it all and listening to I mean, it's so
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  freaking loud that close and like even the warm ups are so I don't know,
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  and just to think we're that band, like I go back with them,
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  way way back, and just you know, you were early truck shows
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  with me ye Philly, and just to hear them warm up and you're just
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  like, holy shit, it come a long way. Man had like four
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  Marshall stacks. Maybe you know, it's not just a wall of them,
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  and it just blows your mind. It was cool seeing them and it was
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  kind of a neat experience. It absolutely was highly recommend folks if you're in
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  the metal out there. I know not everybody is. It's not everybody's cup
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  of tea, like I said before, but if you're in the medal,
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  you got to see a Lamb of God show. And like Eric said,
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  the pan Terror show, it was a little bizarre. It was great for
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  me as a guitarist to see Zach Wild playing the first time I ever saw
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  him play. And but it really was like a cover band playing Pantera songs
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  like Eric said, and I was. We were kind of just like,
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  it's really weird. And Charlie Benante from Anthrax was the drummers. Drummer,
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  he was really freaking. The band was good, but Phil and Salmo kind
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  of turned me off. He and he and the you know, the Paul
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  brothers didn't exactly, you know, leave on good terms, right and every
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  song, after every song he was like, we love you brothers, And
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  I'm like, didn't they hate you? Shit about both of them? And
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  it's such a cash grab and just and he just kind of stands there and
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  sings the songs. Now it doesn't move, right, I mean I understand
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  that. Like we you know, we talked about Henry Rollins how he can't
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  move anymore, and how Randy from lam mcgod wears his knee braces now because
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  he does his huge jumps and he knew for twenty some years. And you
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  kind of see the side effects of that kind of music and and you saw
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  it with Phil and Salmo's just standing there. It's like that's kind of blows
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  yeah, run around, you know exactly. Yeah, all right, Well
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  we loved to talking about that right there. Obviously. I just it was
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  a great, great experience and and my man, I thank you so much
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  for invite me out. That was really great. It was a great,
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  great time. So you can hear it in my voice there, right,
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  folks, you can hear it. You can hear the catheter and rate in
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  my freaking throat. Oh my gosh, well, listen, we gotta talk
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  about this Philadelphia Phillies team. We have to talk about the fact that one
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  Michael Lorenzen, his second start as a Philadelphia Philly he threw the fourteenth no
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  hitter in Phillies history, the first no hitter since two thousand fifteen, and
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  the first no hitter at Citizens Bank Park since Roy Halliday did that on October
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  sixth, two thousand and ten, in Game one of the two thousand and
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  ten National League Division Series against the Reds. My gosh, Eric, you
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  said you were out, You were with your son, and you were watching
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  game. It was muted where you were app and you were looking up at
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  a fifth ending like, holy cow, there's there's something special possibly going on
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  here. But my gosh, Lorenz and he is going to go down in
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  Philly sports folk history, and we are all going to remember this for the
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  rest of our lives. What a freaking monumental night. I mean, my
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  son and I were at I take him to this baseball clinic place where we
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  work on his game. We left there, I went to my buddy macros
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  Had. I had a beer, we got food, and it's just like
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  fourth inning. I'm like, do I see uh runs, hits airs,
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  all balls across across the line, all, you know, all zeros And
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  I'm like okay, and then we by the time we leave its sixth inning,
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  it's still the same, like, holy shit, dude, we gotta
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  go home, like this is I can't least this happening. And I'm talking
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  to Mac and he's like, I think this is really a no hitter.
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  I'm like, wow, okay, it's been like you said, twenty fifteen,
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  right, yeah, was asked that that my goodness. I mean we're
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  eight years, yes, twenty fifteen the last time. Yeah, I was
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  in my thirties. That's how long it's been. And I was just what
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  a performance. And I think I text you in Len when they made the
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  trade that I was like, I love this trade. Yeah, I mean,
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  this is you need arms, I was all. I was already for
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  the show to talk about getting him. Is it gives you one of the
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  better starting pitching lineups in in based in the National League, and it probably
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  helps your middle relief. I didn't see this coming and I was texting my
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  brother too. Beyond you know, beyond tonight, like his first starting against
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  some Marlins on the the third, Yeah, August third, he won eight
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  innings, gave up what six hits I think and two runs and uh and
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  is this the best Phillies debut ever? Like the over over two games,
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  it seems like it would be. I mean, I'm I'm having trouble remembering
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  what could have been, like a bigger, better debut. Was there a
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  bat that maybe did something? Seriously I'm not I'm not remembering well what my
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  brother did. Text me one back, but real quick, Lorenzen stats and
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  and I'll go with it bat because like a pitcher, you kind of count
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  that as what ten games because they only start two over five or six days?
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  Yeah, but two and oho one oh six r a two games started,
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  seventeen innings, six six, six hits, two and runs, ten
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  strikeouts with a whip of point six five. That is insane. Yes,
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  he made the All Star Game, but everyone kind of I mean, some
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  people in the in the press called it a fluke because he's not been that
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  good in his whole career. He I mean, you look at his splits
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  for the last two months. It's insane, especially for August now, but
• 21:48
  my brother did hit me up with uh Reese Hoskins ten homers in seventeen games
• 21:53
  when he first came up seven consecutive games with the home run eleven home runs
• 21:57
  and sixty four bats. That's true. Yeah, yeah, that's I think
• 22:03
  it's I think those are the those are the top two over the past.
• 22:04
  My god, would it be ten years, fifteen years? But if we
• 22:07
  had to put one guy like the best at this point, the best debut,
• 22:12
  like, what would it be Reese? I don't know over over that
• 22:17
  time period, do you know what I mean? Yeah? But I I
• 22:19
  you gotta got Rens in because it's pitching is more meaningful, and it's that's
• 22:23
  true. His last start is is historic, right right, They're both fantastic,
• 22:30
  But I gotta put the Rens in at number one because I'm sure I'm
• 22:34
  missing one. Maybe that will you know, probably kick me in the butt,
• 22:38
  but I that is a that is a monumental start. I'm sure his
• 22:41
  third start is going to be horrendous. Who cares? He'll be giving for
• 22:45
  it, right, But man, that that's that is we didn't had the
• 22:49
  Marlins start. Yeah, but I mean that that he crushed the Marlins and
• 22:52
  everyone was thrilled. And then he does this, and and against two teams
• 22:56
  in your division. That is gigantic. I no, I'm with you.
• 23:00
  Yeah, I absolutely did. You know, thinking about it now, that
• 23:03
  run that Reese had when he was brought up, I mean, it was
• 23:07
  it was incredible, It was great. We're like, my gosh, we
• 23:10
  have the first basement of the future. And then we got to know Reese
• 23:12
  Hoskins a little bit more, of course, and just how streaky he could
• 23:18
  be. But yeah, when you look at it at the end of the
• 23:21
  day, it's a no hitter. You know, there's only fourteen now no
• 23:25
  hitters in Philly's history. Michael Lorenzen has one of them. So yeah,
• 23:29
  I absolutely agree with you. Definitely the best debut for sure. But but
• 23:34
  Eric, I also wonder too about this team as we're moving on here,
• 23:37
  that like, what how they can improve for the remainder of this season,
• 23:42
  because certainly not everything is perfect. Not everything's perfect with every team out there.
• 23:45
  I mean even the Braves, you know, things aren't necessarily perfect with
• 23:49
  them, even though they're killing it. I'm wondering could they improve even more
• 23:55
  because they do have a weak schedule here at this during the second half of
• 24:00
  the season. And you know, I even put in our outline here,
• 24:03
  you know, perhaps lean on pitching even more now with that six man rotation.
• 24:08
  Look what Michael Lorenzen just to hit, of course, you know.
• 24:11
  So, I don't know, how do you think that they're going to be
• 24:14
  able to improve for the remainder of the season. I think it's a combination
• 24:18
  of things. If I had to put one thing on it, I would
• 24:21
  certainly put a week's schedule, of course, But then again, this team
• 24:26
  needs to be able to hit home runs in certain situations. They seem to
• 24:30
  be doing that now, and of course they're playing teams like the Royals and
• 24:33
  the Nationals at this moment. But again, I think the schedule is very
• 24:37
  much in their favor down the stretch. I don't know what are your thoughts
• 24:41
  about how they can still improve for the remainder of the season. Here,
• 24:45
  the offense was dreary for a while, and it's a classic. It can
• 24:51
  only get better, you know. Yeah, I think it's really important because
• 24:56
  it was already starting to get hot before the trade deadline, and then he
• 24:59
  made the moves that they did. And again I gotta give Dombrowski a lot
• 25:03
  of credit. He's actually the perfect GM for this team because they're a veteran
• 25:07
  team. They don't need the farm system right now. That's just, you
• 25:11
  know, that's just kind of where the Phillies are at. And to trade
• 25:15
  away prospects for what they got was really smart. And the offense is going
• 25:19
  to come around, man, And if Trey Turner can start to hit and
• 25:25
  the rest of the guys can stay consistent, hope Brandon Marsh comes back soon.
• 25:30
  The schedule is just it's paltry, it really is. I mean,
• 25:33
  the Twins. Twins are a decent team, but they're in Philly. The
• 25:37
  Blue Jays. I kind of consider the Blue Jays and Phillies kind of be
• 25:41
  the same same level they got the Nats Giants, we're kind of on the
• 25:45
  same level as then. The Cardinals are having a bad year, Angels are
• 25:48
  subpar. They have plenty of time to kind of get in that groove offensively,
• 25:52
  and if the Arms can keep doing what they're doing, I'm hoping a
• 25:56
  lot of momentum happened tonight with with Lorenz's performance. That was thank god it
• 26:00
  happened at home. That was pretty big. It really got the crowd,
• 26:03
  you know, into it and going. And I I can't say enough about
• 26:07
  him. I've never really watched him pitch too much. He was one of
• 26:11
  those prospects that came up I think in the Oh my god, it was
• 26:15
  a Tiger system, I forget, but he was a name when he first
• 26:18
  came out. He was one of those guys, we'll pick him up in
• 26:21
  the fantasy thing. He's he's going to be something else, and he kind
• 26:23
  of never panned out. Maybe he's shaping into form. And he's really interesting
• 26:29
  as a right handed pitcher because he goes he goes fastball, slider, changeup.
• 26:34
  He has no curveball, and he does it cutter sometimes, but his
• 26:38
  slider is sick. And the combo of that fastball slider and then the change
• 26:44
  up, the kind of the slider drops one direction, the change goes in
• 26:47
  the other direction. That's really unique for right hander. A lot of them
• 26:51
  do the curveball thing, and his slider is kind of his curveball. It
• 26:55
  really works for him. And you know, there's a long history of team
• 27:00
  players changing leagues. Yeah, and American in to National and vice versa.
• 27:07
  And yeah, I know teams play each other across across the league now but
• 27:11
  there's always been a decent history with that of players changing, and he's already
• 27:15
  he's already playing really well. I think he's I think he's gonna be perfect
• 27:18
  for the Phillies down the stretch. And I'd honestly be afraid if I was
• 27:22
  another team in the wild card hunt, because you're kindly gonna catch the Braves.
• 27:26
  There's just too damn good. But if I was the Braves and we
• 27:30
  face them again in the playoffs so we did last year, I'd be scared
• 27:33
  to death with If the lineup's going and we have those arms, Yeah,
• 27:37
  like that, Phillies would be a really formidable opponent. Absolutely, absolutely,
• 27:41
  Lorenzen said after the game. He said, I've watched every single one of
• 27:45
  Nolan Ryan's no hitters because I've always wanted to throw a no hitter. And
• 27:48
  the fact that I just did it in front of this fan base, I
• 27:51
  can't believe it. And I love that he mentioned the fan base in his
• 27:56
  comments after the game. Eric, I love that, and I love the
• 28:00
  fact too that each and every time we see these Phillies games on our televisions,
• 28:06
  the stadium is packed. Citizens Bank Park is packed on a Wednesday night,
• 28:11
  it's packed on a freaking Tuesday night. Also, it's incredible how the
• 28:17
  fans and these players have been connecting with each other. I talked to our
• 28:21
  good friend Jeff Kerr from CBS Sports on our table talk show this past week
• 28:26
  about the fact that the most bizarre thing that we have seen from the fan
• 28:30
  base ensure it was pushed by ninety four w ip, but the standing ovation
• 28:36
  for Trey Turner and it got him to a point after he smacked that home
• 28:40
  run shortly thereafter and he buys some billboard real estate in Philadelphia thanking the fan
• 28:45
  base. I have never seen anything like that ever in sports. I have
• 28:49
  never seen anything like that, I should say Major League Baseball, can't say
• 28:52
  in sports in general, but because I haven't. But still, it was
• 28:56
  the fan base and the connection with this team is something I think that is
• 29:00
  pretty special. Whether it's with Michael Rensen, what he did tonight and how
• 29:04
  he mentioned the fan base, whether it's Trey Turner saga in situation, and
• 29:08
  just how we're seeing Citizens Bank Parrot Park full every single night. It's it's
• 29:15
  really it's been a really cool season. Man. Yeah, and I okay,
• 29:19
  I hate talking about the Philly fan thing. We're a Philadelphi sports podcast,
• 29:26
  and I hate talking about the fan stuff that we're the worst fans in
• 29:29
  the world. Yes, we're askals. Sure, I've seen it, Okay,
• 29:33
  I've been Eagles games. I've seen Vikings fans almost getting their jerseys lit
• 29:40
  on fire. I've seen it. Okay, it's really shitty. I've seen
• 29:42
  Cowboys fans get punched out. They deserve it. But I've been to Sixers
• 29:48
  games, with six Er Celtics games and it gets ugly as how. Having
• 29:52
  said that, we're in a new era of fandom where positivity is just kind
• 29:59
  of universal across most fandom now right, Younger people not as negative, and
• 30:07
  it's definitely kind of reverberated through Philadelphia. How many like I have I have
• 30:12
  not heard bad Eagles fans stories in a long time, A very long time.
• 30:17
  Yeah, I'm talking. I'm talking like kids getting punched out. I'm
• 30:21
  talking like beers thrown on old ladies. Like I'm talking about the shitty stuff
• 30:23
  that I've seen in my day at the bed and even at the at the
• 30:26
  link back in the day early on. But that's kind of gone away,
• 30:30
  and the Phillies fans and I will I'll give Bryce Harper a ton of credit
• 30:36
  for this, for when he signed a couple of years ago with the team,
• 30:40
  and he has talked up Philly fans like he is by far probably their
• 30:45
  best co sponsor and biggest cheerleader. He has said like from day one,
• 30:51
  I wish I would have started my career here. I love the fans,
• 30:52
  They're amazing, And he really has kind of kickstarted the fandom in a more
• 30:56
  positive tone for you know, for the Phillies and man, you know last
• 31:03
  year when Alec Bomb said I fucking hates his place and the next day everyone
• 31:08
  was cheering him on man like, it was weird. It was like it
• 31:12
  was an amalgamation of like the negativity in the past, going yeah, I
• 31:15
  get it, it sucks here sometimes, but we love you. You're one
• 31:18
  of us, and like kind of it kind of morphed into what it is
• 31:22
  now where Alec Bomb can do that and he gets cheered the next day.
• 31:26
  Trey Turner shits the bed. He lost that game a couple of weeks,
• 31:30
  a couple of nights ago. Man, I text you guys, going,
• 31:32
  God damn Tray turn him so pissed him right when he makes he screwed up
• 31:34
  in the field, and what do the fans do. He comes home,
• 31:37
  they cheer him on, he hits a home run and he puts a billboard
• 31:41
  up, thank you. Things have changed, it really has. Eagles are
• 31:44
  winning super Bowls and Super Bowls that Phantom has changed. The Sixers can do
• 31:48
  no wrong in terms of fandom. It's just I don't even speak to the
• 31:51
  Flyers, but like, it's just kind of it is absolutely morphed into what
• 31:56
  it is now. I'm still getting used to it. I mean I every
• 32:00
  now and again, I'm like, somebody punch somebody. Man, this is
• 32:01
  weird. Like I come from more of an old school, you know.
• 32:05
  Yeah, but but it's way cooler as a fan to kind of watch a
• 32:09
  player falter and then you see what happening trade turn. It is pretty cool.
• 32:15
  Yeah, absolutely is it absolutely is. Let us know what you're thinking
• 32:17
  about this Phillies team. Let us know what you're thinking about Michael Lorenzen his
• 32:21
  no hitter, What that means in terms of Philly sports history. Do you
• 32:24
  agree with us if it's the greatest debut of a Phillies pitcher here or just
• 32:30
  a Philadelphia Philly in general? Philadelphia sports Table at gmail dot com. We'd
• 32:35
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• 32:37
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• 32:40
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• 32:46
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• 32:50
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• 32:53
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• 33:01
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• 33:06
  to take that break now and we'll be back in just a bit with a
• 33:08
  bunch of football talk. Stick with us, all right, We are back
• 33:14
  and Eric, NFL season just around the corner. Of the regular season is
• 33:17
  right around the corner. Had the first preseason game this past week, Jets
• 33:22
  Browns at the Hall of Fame game, which was I mean, it's a
• 33:25
  garbage game. We know that everybody knows that, but it's good a football
• 33:29
  at least for me. I love that it's back on my television screen love
• 33:34
  following various storylines throughout the course of this preseason, but like, I'm also
• 33:39
  getting tired already already of certain players in this league who, of course get
• 33:46
  hype, and it's a thing that happens. Of course, it's natural.
• 33:51
  You're starting off a sports season, a professional sporting season, certain players are
• 33:55
  going to be getting more hype than others. Certain players are going to be
• 33:59
  talked about out more amongst the national media outlets and whether it's on podcasts as
• 34:05
  well articles written about them, to the point where it's like, man,
• 34:07
  I'm really getting tired of hearing about this guy already in this season. The
• 34:12
  regular season hasn't even started. So that being said, we wanted to get
• 34:15
  into which player we are incredibly tired of hearing about. So I'm gonna let
• 34:22
  you start off with this, buddy, What is there a player for you
• 34:25
  that you're just You're just like, oh my god, he's gotta go away
• 34:28
  or the story's gotta go away at this point, what are you thinking?
• 34:36
  Right out the bat, I'll say, uh, sorry, I was gonna
• 34:38
  mess with you, but I'm not going to Okay, yeah, I was
• 34:40
  gonna say I messed up a sentence in the first part. Can we start
• 34:44
  over because you're a you're you're esophagus, pipe down, you're thrown. I'm
• 34:50
  so uncomfortable right now, man, I'm going as fast as I can.
• 34:55
  It's fine. I mean, I'm not gonna talk about Aaron Jersey because that's
• 35:00
  probably the obvious answer, because that's you know, with his he's with the
• 35:05
  Jets. He bought a house in New Jersey. What an asshole you're at.
• 35:09
  You were in Green Bay your entire career, and you buy a spot
• 35:12
  in New Jersey, no offense in New Jersey, buy an apartment in New
• 35:15
  York and date women and just beyond the news, Like what are you doing
• 35:17
  dude? Anyway, that's beyond I would honestly say my least favorite right now.
• 35:25
  And this I almost said this is no fault of his own, but
• 35:29
  it is. It's it's is it is his fault because his actions are fucking
• 35:32
  deplorable. Deshaun Watson, Oh yeah, yeah, I've heard so many like
• 35:39
  I flipped through the NFL network coming out on ESPN sometimes and and it's just
• 35:44
  to hear. Can Deshaun Watson come back from from from the hardships of last
• 35:52
  year, and he's gone through a lot, and I'm like, and he
• 35:55
  has some issues. Excuse me, what what are we talking about? Some
• 36:00
  issues? Yeah, he had hardships. He uh, he paid off what
• 36:07
  twenty some women that he probably sexually harassed and they're not his issues at this
• 36:12
  point? Is that what I'm trying to understand. Shame on you NFL network
• 36:15
  for being apologist once again for Roger Goodell and the league. Do better.
• 36:22
  But you can because you actually worked for the league. Yeah, the whole
• 36:25
  Deshaun Watson apology, not a not his apology tour, which he never did,
• 36:30
  the the Deshaun watching Deshaun Watson apology tour by the media. I watched
• 36:38
  Phil sims Kid do an interview the other day and he was like, if
• 36:43
  he can just get past these issues, he's got a bright future this season.
• 36:46
  I'm like, his issues. What, Yeah, it's not like he's
• 36:51
  overcoming Lukemi or some shit. Dude Like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 36:54
  he kind of put it on himself. He kind of responsible for this shit,
• 36:58
  So I'm not sure he has to get over He's he's a talented athletic
• 37:04
  quarterback and he did some shitty things. So I'm really sick of hearing about
• 37:07
  him, but more so the media kind of underplaying what caused his own issues
• 37:13
  and that are his own fault. So coincidentally, I'm assuming you're probably not
• 37:17
  going to listen to the Opposition Territory Show this week because of focused on the
• 37:22
  Cleveland Browns. Well, whoever you're talking to, I hope they say,
• 37:27
  guess what, we just get to get this out of the way. Deshaun
• 37:30
  Watson's a piece of shit. Now we can talk. I'll be honest with
• 37:34
  you. LJ basically was like I could tell during the interview He's like,
• 37:37
  I have talked about Deshaun Watson so much. I am so tired of it.
• 37:40
  We start talking about the defense and he like lit up. I'd be
• 37:45
  dying for that. Can you imagine like like being responsible for like trying to
• 37:51
  think, like, say, you own the Reds back in the day and
• 37:52
  Pete Rose's your manager, that piece of shit. Yeah, and he just
• 37:57
  I don't want to talk about him. We just talk about the Air Davis
• 38:00
  and the rest of the team, Like, I don't want to talk about
• 38:01
  the one. But that's but that's the Brown's responsibility. He had to talk
• 38:06
  about it. So yep, yep. Absolutely for me. And this may
• 38:09
  seem like an obvious one because I had been watching the Quarterback documentary on Netflix,
• 38:16
  and I'm just it's just it's not just him that I'm tired of.
• 38:22
  It's the narrative around him. And of course it's Patrick Mahomes who I'm talking
• 38:25
  about here, but the narrative with him of whether or not he actually is
• 38:30
  the goat at this point, And I'm sitting here thinking to myself, are
• 38:35
  you are you fucking kidding me? Like, are we actually having these conversations?
• 38:38
  Are conversations on the internet actually happening about this? And are people actually
• 38:44
  making the case for this, because at the end of the day, yes,
• 38:47
  he is a dominant football player in this league right now at this point.
• 38:52
  He's got two Super Bowls. There is at this particular point in time
• 38:55
  no stopping him. However, like him or not, Tom Brady's got seven
• 39:00
  super Bowls and had the greatest of all time career of any football player in
• 39:07
  NFL history. And that is that I am tired of hearing about how Patrick
• 39:13
  Mahome is, that is that greatest greatest of all time at the and maybe
• 39:19
  maybe he's the greatest on the field now here in twenty twenty three. That
• 39:22
  is fine, make the case for that, But I'm not gonna sit here
• 39:25
  and let people say that he is the goat when it comes to the overall
• 39:31
  game of professional football and what the history of this league has been pumped the
• 39:37
  brakes a little bit. I'd love to see it's. You know, you
• 39:40
  can even say this about Tom Brady to a certain extent, like, you
• 39:44
  know, what would his stats have been if he didn't have Randy Moss,
• 39:46
  if he didn't have Rob Gronkowski, if he didn't have really good coaching,
• 39:52
  if he didn't do this and that or have this and that. You can
• 39:54
  say that for all NFL players. You can good ones, bad ones.
• 39:59
  You can say that for all players. But the fact of the matter is,
• 40:04
  I mean Mahomes, just like a Brady had as well, you know,
• 40:07
  had fantastic receivers, and specifically one in Travis Kelsey, a great coach,
• 40:13
  and Andy Reid. You take Andy Reid away and Travis Kelsey, and
• 40:16
  I wonder what type of quarterback play you're gonna get from Patrick Mahomes. It's
• 40:21
  probably gonna be pretty good, But I don't know if we would be having
• 40:23
  those he's the greatest of all time, which is ridiculous type of conversations that
• 40:29
  we're having now. And it's just it's it really bothers me for some reason,
• 40:32
  because I'm a I love history in general, I certainly love sports history.
• 40:37
  It's particularly NFL history, and it's just it's getting it's bothering me.
• 40:42
  It bothers me. That I'm defending Tom Brady here too, never really bothers
• 40:46
  me. But I don't know. That's where I'm at with a guy.
• 40:50
  I'm getting so tired of hearing about Eric. Okay, I'll push back a
• 40:54
  little bit. I just want to ask a few questions. So are they
• 40:58
  seeing grace of all time quarterback or Grace of all time player? Like ever,
• 41:02
  it's it's a goat. What I have been seeing isn't necessarily a designation
• 41:07
  of quarterback. They're just saying he's the goat, he's the greatest of all
• 41:10
  time at this Well, okay, and I've heard people say, like,
• 41:15
  takeaway Travis Kelcey from him, what does he have? Well, he probably
• 41:17
  win a Super Bowl er too. I think he's that fucking good. I
• 41:21
  think he's an all timer. Yeah, but we're in that instant gratification social
• 41:27
  media world. Now that a guy wins two super Bowls and he's talented as
• 41:31
  hell, and he's all of a sudden the goat. I hate how quickly
• 41:36
  we forget history. Yeah. In terms of players, I mean, dude,
• 41:40
  Jerry Rice, Lawrence Taylor, yeah, White, where do I you
• 41:44
  know? And I'm not even going to the modern era like we're. I
• 41:47
  mean, shit, give me Ray Lewis, for God's sakes, right of
• 41:51
  all time players. In terms of quarterbacks, Tom Brady just retired seven super
• 41:55
  Bowls. I don't care if you want to say I can't stand the guy
• 41:58
  either, but come on, that's a surd Joe Montana is still better than
• 42:01
  Patrick Mahomes talent wise, probably not, we're in a different era, but
• 42:06
  you know, resume wise, I don't think it's even close. He's destined
• 42:10
  to become the best of all time. He's that talented. But to give
• 42:15
  him that crown, it's silly. And I don't like doing that either,
• 42:21
  But they put a documentary out there and they got to do that shit,
• 42:24
  And I'm with you. I mean, it's really silly to give a guy.
• 42:30
  I mean, the guy might wind up with five Super Bowls and He's
• 42:34
  throwing eighty yard passes behind his back at some point and we're just like,
• 42:37
  wow, yeah, how are we run? But because much like technology,
• 42:43
  I think sports is also like like moving moving exponentially. I think we're going
• 42:50
  to have another Patrick Mahomes in like five years. I don't think it's impossible.
• 42:53
  The quarterback game, with the way the rules have changed, actually kind
• 42:58
  of leave it leave it open for someone to become the next Patrick Mahomes are
• 43:02
  even better. Yeah, right now, he's the best player in the league.
• 43:07
  Sure, you can't argue that. I will absolutely defend that that point.
• 43:13
  But I hate the we got a goat here, and you ignore what
• 43:17
  sixty years of NFL history? Yes, exactly, Well, I think you've
• 43:22
  said it right. You know, he may be destined to be the greatest
• 43:24
  of all time. He may be in the future, the goat, but
• 43:28
  it's not now, it's not here in twenty twenty three. So let's pump
• 43:31
  the brakes, folks. So let's keep going with some football talk here,
• 43:36
  Eric, because we're gonna have Oj Spivey from the Philadelphia Tribune on in just
• 43:42
  a little bit here to talk about Eagles preseason, what he's seeing some storylines
• 43:46
  as well. But the Eagles just signed linebackers Miles Jack Zach Cunningham after the
• 43:52
  Kobe Dean's ankle injury. They cut davey On Taylor, third round pick from
• 43:55
  a few years ago just did not work out and just didn't develop at all.
• 44:00
  So I was always feeling that the linebacker position going into this season,
• 44:06
  aside from the safety position, was just one of the weakest position units on
• 44:09
  this field, And now I'm feeling perhaps a little bit different. Do I
• 44:14
  think Miles Jack is the same Miles Jack that he was from a few years
• 44:16
  ago. No, not at all. Even with Zach Cunningham. I do
• 44:20
  think Zach Cunningham could potentially have some starting reps in the future and be a
• 44:24
  significant contributor to that linebacker corps. I am feeling a little bit better now
• 44:30
  in terms of the depth at this position than I did before, because,
• 44:36
  you know, Nicholas Morrow, I don't know what the heck he was going
• 44:38
  to really do in terms of his on the field play. So just just
• 44:45
  wondering what your thoughts were on this. I'm feeling a little bit better about
• 44:47
  the linebacker position heading into this season, are you as well? I mean,
• 44:52
  I don't know a ton about Zach Cunningham, but Miles Jack and know
• 44:57
  the name. I remember when he was drafted by the Jags and what twenty
• 45:00
  sixteen. Yeah, he was going to be just an all time stopper.
• 45:05
  Didn't happen, but he's still a good player, very athletic. The linebacking
• 45:09
  the linebacker positions is just never been important to the Eagles. In my thirty
• 45:15
  some years being a fan, I've never been in all that concerned with the
• 45:17
  position. It's always been the D line kind of like helps out the linebackers
• 45:22
  and as long as they're just as stalwart as they are, that's the That
• 45:28
  position This year is going to be frightening from everything I've heard about training camp.
• 45:31
  And I want to ask you some questions because you were there Sunday at
• 45:35
  the first public practice. Can I just give a shout out there to Davy
• 45:38
  and Taylor just it warms my heart to hear a third round linebacker didn't work
• 45:44
  out and they cut them. That goes back to my nineteen eighties nineteen nineties
• 45:50
  Eagles fandom, where they they would draft a linebacker in the second or third
• 45:52
  round. He'd be like, finally they care the linebacker position and that guy
• 45:58
  sucked ass yep, yep, and he was cutting three years yep. It
• 46:01
  makes me feel really nice inside as a fan. But I mean, their
• 46:07
  names, their bodies, but they have you know, Miles Jack was just
• 46:10
  you know what, seven years in league, eight years in league, just
• 46:14
  played for the Steelers. Wasn't too bad. What else are we going to
• 46:17
  do at that position, especially with Dean's injuries? Yeah, exactly, I'm
• 46:22
  good with it. I'm good with these acquisitions. And I think I think
• 46:25
  these preseason games coming up, we're gonna see these guys a little bit more.
• 46:29
  These names, Miles Jack, Zach Cunningham, and you know, hopefully
• 46:32
  Nakobe Dean is going to be good to go. I doubting he's going to
• 46:36
  be able to really get maybe get into some of these preseason games. Who
• 46:39
  knows, maybe the last one. But they're gonna need to preserve his health
• 46:43
  because he is going to be from all indications, he's gonna be wearing that
• 46:46
  radio out there. He's gonna be calling those defensive plays that are coming in
• 46:51
  from Seawan to say so, it's gonna be interesting for sure. And like
• 46:54
  you said, Eric, I was down at the public practice and I'm gonna
• 46:59
  get into it with OJ Spivey in a bit here, But man, fifty
• 47:02
  thousand for a practice. Fifty thousand fans for a freaking practice. It was.
• 47:08
  It was a sight. It really was. Man, it was.
• 47:12
  It was just amazing electricity in the link and just man, it was.
• 47:17
  It was a feeling of, you know what, this team is special,
• 47:21
  and I think we're going to see something else special happen this season. It
• 47:23
  was really it was really cool. My kids absolutely love going down there.
• 47:28
  The Unfortunately, the face painting line was just so freaking long. Even they
• 47:31
  were like, all right, this is ridiculous. Let's go to the seats,
• 47:35
  let's just watch some stuff. And but it was. It was just
• 47:37
  an overall great time. Did you see anything in practice or like the practice
• 47:43
  kind of just like show for the it was a show. It was a
• 47:45
  show practice. Yeah, well I really do miss you. Tell me you're
• 47:52
  going down to that really made me miss the times of when they're in Lehigh
• 47:55
  Valley. Oh and going to see him in the My dad took me my
• 48:00
  brother what ninety ninety like for three years in a row. We went nice
• 48:05
  and you basically like you can almost get in the field at getting onto the
• 48:08
  field as Yeah, it was so cool and like meeting meeting the offensive linemen
• 48:14
  up close, like in person, and just being like, holy shit,
• 48:17
  these guys are big. Oh my god, I've got Todd. Yeah,
• 48:21
  I've got Todd Harriman's autograph on a hat from from yeah, from from Lee
• 48:24
  High Valley. Yeah. When they were up at Lehigh University, I was
• 48:28
  able to actually get on the sidelines once and they were doing some autograph stuff
• 48:31
  on the sidelines and I got Todd Harriman's autograph there, Like you're absolutely right.
• 48:36
  Lehigh Valley training camp was fantastic. It was phenomenal. It was really
• 48:39
  up close and personal, and it just it allowed you to feel like you
• 48:44
  were even that much more part of the team. I remember standing next to
• 48:46
  Antone Davis and just being like, I'm barely a human, Like I can't
• 48:54
  imagine, i can't believe what's happening in front of me. Just throw that
• 48:59
  old name out. But I did see on Twitter the videos of of Kelsey
• 49:05
  this belly out yes, and some and some very horny moms saying like he's
• 49:10
  very sexy. There's a lot, Yeah, well he's he's kind of the
• 49:15
  I mean, he's he's probably the most famous Eagle to like non Eagles fans,
• 49:20
  I would say, yep, and just I guess because his kids were
• 49:23
  there properly and just yeah, it seems like you know, the the meme
• 49:29
  like bonk your horny me. Yeah, I kind of wanted to throw that
• 49:31
  out there a little bit on Twitter like whoa or x whatever you call it
• 49:35
  now, like whoa, Okay, he's a married man with two kids,
• 49:37
  Like let's let's relax, like I know, and it just it was just
• 49:43
  like like I was belly was that he's so cute but his but oh my
• 49:46
  goodness, gracious, like is your first football game? They all have tight
• 49:54
  like a tight pants on. Yes, all right, great way to end
• 50:00
  up. Body follow Eric on Twitter at Brick Pollitt and gonna let Eric head
• 50:05
  out here. And we still got some more Eagles talk for you coming up.
• 50:08
  We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be back in just a bit.
• 50:13
  All right, we are back now we gotta get to what we were
• 50:15
  thrown down on the table. We got a great interview more Eagles talk.
• 50:19
  Let's get to it and now on the table. It is great to have
• 50:24
  on the podcast for the very first time. He is an award winning sports
• 50:29
  and culture journalist from the Philadelphia Tribune. I absolutely love following him on the
• 50:35
  Twitter dot com and just his content is absolutely fantastic all the time. We've
• 50:40
  got the one and only oj Spivey. How you doing, oj Hi,
• 50:44
  Jeff, thank you so much for that great introduction first, and I appreciate
• 50:49
  you having me on your show. Yeah. Absolutely, it is great to
• 50:51
  finally have you on. I've been wanting to have you on for some time,
• 50:54
  and I want to thank our good friend of the podcast, Matt Rodgers,
• 50:57
  for making the connection, and I want I wanted to have you on
• 51:00
  because your perspective on sports, especially Philly sports, is always so fantastic.
• 51:07
  Quite frankly, Ojay and I wanted to start off, as we're talking about
• 51:10
  the Philadelphia Eagles, about the fact that over fifty thousand Eagles fans attended the
• 51:16
  public practice this past week and it was the only practice, the only public
• 51:21
  practice, I should say, being offered to the fans this preseason. But
• 51:24
  man, nothing ever ceases to amaze me with this fan base. The love
• 51:29
  devotion to this team is always just unwavering, and it did help that they
• 51:35
  got to the Super Bowl this past season, and they're looking to do it
• 51:37
  again this year again over fifty thousand strong for a practice here. Oh,
• 51:43
  Jay, how do you characterize what this symbolizes for the team, for the
• 51:45
  organization, and especially for the fans. What are your thoughts? Well,
• 51:51
  first thing, Jeff, I happened to be there that evening as a member
• 51:57
  of the media, and you know, it was great to see. And
• 52:00
  I'll tell you that I first noticed that it was something different about this particular
• 52:07
  practice as opposed to past years because while I was watching the Eagles warm up
• 52:12
  and you know, do their opening drills before they kicked us off the field
• 52:15
  for the actual practice, right, But no, that's that's fine. But
• 52:20
  you know, I happened to look up towards the upper deck and you know,
• 52:23
  sometimes you know, you're just happened to look up by chance. Not
• 52:27
  that I was looking for anything, but I noticed, okay, wait a
• 52:30
  minute, the upper bowl is starting to fill a little bit. I said
• 52:34
  that to my wife as well, because you were there too, and I
• 52:37
  said, Hunt, I go look at the upper bowl here. I said,
• 52:38
  it's starting to fill up. I said, this is incredible exactly.
• 52:43
  And I was like, okay, this is something different. And you know,
• 52:45
  and I've been to plenty of open practices, even when they would have
• 52:50
  multiple throughout the preseason or training camp, and it was definitely something different.
• 52:57
  And I don't know if it broke a record. We probably had to go
• 52:59
  back, you know, quite a few years to see. But to see
• 53:01
  over fifty thousand fans on, you know, to see the Upper Bowl starting
• 53:06
  to be filled and all that was, that was a pleasant surprise. And
• 53:10
  to answer your question, Jeff, what it means is it's just excitement.
• 53:15
  It's overall excitement and as you as you began to categorize it. Of course,
• 53:22
  going to the Super Bowl helps, but they did go to the Super
• 53:24
  Bowl and win it back in twenty seventeen, and in twenty eighteen, I
• 53:28
  don't recall that many people being at the open press, but you know,
• 53:34
  I just think it's just excitement for the team. And I also think you
• 53:37
  got someone to, you know, the excitement for the Kelly Green jerseys too.
• 53:40
  Absolutely, absolutely, yep. And when I was there, you know,
• 53:46
  I had a couple of friends, uh you know, text me or
• 53:50
  uh you know, DM me said oh get me a jersey too, I'll
• 53:52
  figure abouddy get everything. So and I you know, when I go in
• 53:58
  as a member of the media, sometimes I like to walk through the tailgat.
• 54:02
  I like to walk through the concourse or the bowl of the stadium,
• 54:07
  and I just like to I like to get the fan reaction because you know,
• 54:09
  being a lifelong Philadelphian, I'm a fan too, And of course you
• 54:13
  have to you have to balance that as a as a journalist, of course,
• 54:19
  but you know, I like to see a fan reaction. And in
• 54:22
  fact, you know, we'll talk about this another time another day. I
• 54:24
  actually worked for the game the staff at one time, you know, but
• 54:29
  but I guess that's entrenched in me, just seeing a fan reaction. But
• 54:31
  there's just so much excitement and just going around to the pro shops and you
• 54:36
  know, of course they have different pro shops. Oh yeah along the stadium,
• 54:40
  you know, within the stadium, and you couldn't even get up.
• 54:44
  The lines were packed. They were you know, maybe maybe people just wanted
• 54:47
  to pay the admission, of course for the for the charitable cause, but
• 54:52
  maybe they wanted to pay the admission just so they can get their hands for
• 54:54
  the Kelly greet. Absolutely absolutely, I know, I know I'm going to
• 54:58
  be getting mine online. I still agotten it. I don't know whether or
• 55:00
  not it's going to be DeVante Smith or Dallas Goddard. It's gonna be one
• 55:05
  of those guys they do. I'm leaning towards Davante Smith at this point for
• 55:09
  Mike Kelly Green Jersey. But yeah, you're absolutely right, Oja. It
• 55:13
  was a fantastic atmosphere, a great experience overall. I mean, it's a
• 55:16
  family tradition for us. I take my kids down every year while my wife
• 55:21
  is there as well. It is a fan friendly and just fun atmosphere for
• 55:24
  everybody. And really quick, folks, if you're not following oj on Twitter,
• 55:29
  he is a great, great follow at oj Philly. Give him a
• 55:31
  follow. You will not be sorry. And Ojay, let's move along here
• 55:36
  in terms of the team. Here, what we're going to be seeing on
• 55:38
  the field, and let's start off from a defensive perspective here, because there's
• 55:43
  some recent acquisitions that I wanted to get into with you. Howie Roseman made
• 55:46
  a couple of acquisitions to bolster the linebacker position. They finally got rid of
• 55:52
  Davian Taylor, who just hasn't developed after so many years here and then we're
• 55:57
  all looking forward to seeing Nakobe Dean and now he's got an ankle injury.
• 56:00
  So they signed Miles Jack and Zach Cunningham to one year deals. The team
• 56:05
  also signed in the off season Christian Ellis and Nicholas Morrow. Remains to be
• 56:09
  seen what they're going to do on the field, especially during the regular season.
• 56:13
  But how do you see this linebacker core shaping up with these new additions?
• 56:20
  And also I'm wondering what realistic expectations there are now for Nakobe Dean at
• 56:23
  this point as he's nursing his injury. This was a position o j that
• 56:28
  it was one of my top concerns heading into this season. So what are
• 56:30
  your thoughts on these signings Nakobe Dean, Where this unit goes from here?
• 56:36
  Well, anytime, Jeff, you have he knew what we see it.
• 56:39
  As a new linebacking corps, they're always it's going to be some questions.
• 56:45
  But I am optimistic because of the youth. I am opidistic because of the
• 56:49
  talent. But you know, there are some concerns. But I'll give Nakobe
• 56:53
  Dean a lot. Is going to be on the Kobe gin this year.
• 56:57
  Yep, you know, if he starts with I project him to still be
• 57:00
  the starter. Uh, come week one, there's gonna be a lot on
• 57:05
  him because you know, he's going to be the one he has, the
• 57:07
  one with the with the with the the headset and the SMIT, so he's
• 57:12
  going to be calling this the signals. But from what I'm told and you
• 57:15
  know what I've read about him and what a teammates says, his George fellow
• 57:20
  Georgia teammates have said about him that he's very intelligent, he's very articulate.
• 57:27
  He's done a lot of calling the signals while he was at Georgia. So
• 57:31
  that's not my concern. My more my concern is, Okay, let's get
• 57:36
  him healthy. Let's see what he can do. Is he has, he
• 57:40
  progresses into this position, you know, he may struggle because again it's this
• 57:46
  is his first year actually being a start, and a lot is going to
• 57:50
  be put on him. And you also, uh, you know, we
• 57:53
  presume that it's going to be a bit of a newer system with showing Decide
• 57:58
  being the new decels A coordinator. So the whole defense really is learning a
• 58:02
  new verbiage and learning essentially a new system. But it may still be just
• 58:07
  similar of what Nick Siriani wants as a defensive philosophy Harry Rosen as well.
• 58:15
  But I think we should give him a bit of a learning period along with
• 58:21
  the rest of the team, and even more so because he's essentially going to
• 58:24
  be a rookie being in that starting inside linebacker position. But my biggest cust
• 58:30
  start is just from being healthy. Let's see how his need progresses. Let's
• 58:34
  see if we get to see him on the field, perhaps at some point
• 58:37
  I don't even want to say a preseason game, but if we can see
• 58:39
  him on the field during the tail end of training camp and practice, that's
• 58:45
  going to be a good sign because I do think he's going to start,
• 58:47
  and I think gonna give him every opportunity because he is talented enough to hold
• 58:52
  a position. Even though they did pick up cutting hand, they did pick
• 58:55
  up mouse jack. That's for depth. And then you also look at Patrick
• 58:59
  Johnson, one of the other linebackers he's hurt to actually saw him get hurt,
• 59:04
  you know, right in front of us at training campugn suit, So
• 59:07
  you get the depth issue of them bringing those guys in. But I wouldn't
• 59:09
  go as far as saying Okay, Nakobe Dean's job is in jeopardy right now.
• 59:15
  It's it's a great segue into the next topic, oj because depth really
• 59:19
  is important, not just for this Eagles team, but for every team in
• 59:22
  the NFL. And I think what's important as we're looking at this Eagles defense
• 59:27
  and looking at Nakoby Dean, looking at Sewan Desai, I like the fact
• 59:30
  that they are first year you know, Nakoby's Dean is going to be a
• 59:34
  first year starting linebacker. Sean Desai his first year with this team, whether
• 59:38
  it's Jordan Davis or whether it's a Jalen Carter, these quote first year type
• 59:45
  of guys who are going to be on the field a significant amount. You're
• 59:47
  gonna be able to really expand upon that relationship with Seawan Desaid. And I
• 59:52
  think that relationship building is so important to what actually happens on the field is
• 59:57
  you know it's absolutely but again, injuries will happen with this team throughout the
• 1:00:00
  course of the season. We hope they're not a lot. But I'd like
• 1:00:06
  to talk about the week spots perhaps on the team when it comes to death,
• 1:00:08
  and it might be the linebacker position that we just talked about. I
• 1:00:12
  mean, who might be some of the most important backups on this team,
• 1:00:15
  not just from a defensive perspective, even an offensive perspective. If injuries do
• 1:00:20
  start to happen. Well, if I had to point to a week spot,
• 1:00:27
  if you will, Jeff, I would say, will be the safety
• 1:00:30
  position. I'm totally fine with red blanket shit. I really I was really
• 1:00:37
  impressed how he stepped in last year. When was it Si Garnergott Johnson who
• 1:00:44
  got who got hurt last year? Okay, yeah, so I was very
• 1:00:47
  impressed how he stepped in, not only just as far as coverage, as
• 1:00:52
  far as you know, being a hitter, but coverage as well. So
• 1:00:55
  I'm impressed with him. I think he's locked in at one of the safe
• 1:00:59
  positions. It just all depends who's going to be the other the other safety
• 1:01:04
  alongside him. It's going to be Edmonds, is going to be uh,
• 1:01:07
  guys, tell me right now. Came round Wallace. I'm not as optimistic
• 1:01:14
  about him being a starter and everything, but you know, if that's one
• 1:01:17
  position I had to point to, the linebackers is one thing, but at
• 1:01:22
  least you know you have a lot of talent there at that position, whether
• 1:01:25
  it be Nicole Dean uh, and I'm very excited about Nolan Smith. I
• 1:01:30
  can't wait and you know, go on to record saying that you know he
• 1:01:32
  wants, he wants, he can't wait to hit the crap out of sometimes.
• 1:01:37
  But that's as a as a Eagles fan, some of the covers of
• 1:01:42
  Thieve but everything, you love to hear that Eagles defender, right. But
• 1:01:46
  yeah, I would just keep eye on the safety position what they decide to
• 1:01:50
  do there because as much as with all the uh, with all the bus
• 1:01:57
  arounding senior Gardner Johnson's are sure how it happened contract wise and everything, I
• 1:02:04
  do think do you miss something with him not being in a lineup, So
• 1:02:07
  hopefully it's just not a big drop ball. Yep, all right, I
• 1:02:10
  agree with you completely here and let's move over to the offense. Okay,
• 1:02:15
  let's talk receivers here, OJ because we know this team is stacked with A
• 1:02:20
  J. Brown, DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard and everyone is making some predictions,
• 1:02:25
  you know, about what's going to happen with this wide receiver corps in
• 1:02:29
  terms of the depth we were just talking about, and there's one gentleman that's
• 1:02:32
  getting a lot of buzz and that is one Quas Watkins and what he may
• 1:02:37
  produce on the field this season. And personally I'm very high on Quaz.
• 1:02:40
  Maybe I shouldn't be. I don't know, and I think it could.
• 1:02:45
  I think he could potentially have six hundred and fifty yards season, say maybe
• 1:02:49
  about five six touchdowns over the course of seventeen games. I do not think
• 1:02:52
  that is out of the realm of possibility at all with him. And I
• 1:02:58
  do think based on a what he would probably even consider himself to be a
• 1:03:00
  disappointing season last year, some key drops throughout the season, key turnovers,
• 1:03:06
  he's gonna want to improve and he's gonna want to make his mark not just
• 1:03:08
  on this Eagles team, but in the NFL. What are your thoughts on
• 1:03:13
  Quas Watkins development and what kind of expectations do you have for Quaz this season?
• 1:03:20
  Well, I will say this, for one, the Eagles themselves seem
• 1:03:23
  to be very high on Quiz, seem to believe a lot in him,
• 1:03:29
  and I think they're going to give him every opportunity to still secure the the
• 1:03:36
  slot wipery receiver position. They do believe in him and he has a pretty
• 1:03:42
  good encant. But I will also say that as a Kiss is just as
• 1:03:45
  good as well. But I do project them both being on a roster.
• 1:03:50
  I project ze Kiss being on the roster as well because he does give a
• 1:03:54
  lot of similar qualities that Quas Watkins has not. I don't believe he's as
• 1:04:00
  tall as Watkins is, but Zakias he might be someone who will step in
• 1:04:06
  and maybe filling that rule and maybe a Zach Pascal did. Yep. But
• 1:04:10
  if Watkins doesn't be struggle, I do think Zakias is just ready to step
• 1:04:14
  in. And of course he's a local guy too. Yeah, I'm having
• 1:04:16
  going to Saint Jules Fret. I'm along with DeAndre Swift who be acquired as
• 1:04:20
  well. Yep. All right, Well, we know that Nick Sirianni and
• 1:04:25
  Jalen Hurts are gonna be you know, we know they're gonna be running the
• 1:04:28
  shotgun, the RPO based offense again this season, o J. And by
• 1:04:31
  using Hurts as we know as a runner in this offense, you know,
• 1:04:34
  they're always finding ways to generate reads, which forces defenses to really think and
• 1:04:40
  try to react on the fly. And and and it's there are a lot
• 1:04:45
  of struggles for a lot of defensive teams in the NFL, and I love,
• 1:04:47
  I just love the split zone lead plays because it's such a numbers advantage
• 1:04:54
  for this Eagles offense. They work it well, they have honed in on
• 1:04:57
  that and it produces volts on the field. But I do wonder if NFL
• 1:05:02
  teams and other defenses are gonna really start figuring this out to an extent.
• 1:05:06
  Do you have any concerns about that happening, you know, why or why
• 1:05:10
  not? Uh No, not necessarily, at least not this year. Of
• 1:05:15
  course, defensive are always are always scheming, always trying to develop the next
• 1:05:20
  thing. Because I remember early on to stop dating the Hurts, a lot
• 1:05:27
  of teams tried to institute a spy. And remember, you know, going
• 1:05:31
  back in the day, speaking of Kelly Greene U in Random Cunningham days,
• 1:05:34
  he kind of, you know, and directly invented the position of spy.
• 1:05:41
  Because you know, so many teams, so many defenses, you know,
• 1:05:44
  the Giants, you know, Washington, Dallas, they all try to you
• 1:05:48
  know, keep a guy study to watch Random Cunningham is every move and people
• 1:05:53
  try to do that. We're hurts and it was unsuccessful. But to really
• 1:05:58
  like dig into your question and Jeff. I think because of the weapons around
• 1:06:02
  Jalen Hurts, it's it's going to be very difficult to team four teams to
• 1:06:06
  just hone in on one thing, because if you're holding on Jalen Hurts,
• 1:06:11
  you're holding on his you know, the RPOs, his running ability and everything.
• 1:06:15
  He's gonna He's gonna find a J. Brown, He's going to find
• 1:06:17
  Delandi Smith and to get a new element that I just mentioned, DeAndre Swift,
• 1:06:24
  if he can stay healthy and coming out of that backfield. It's seems
• 1:06:28
  to me just from watching training camp that the Eagles are going to be very,
• 1:06:34
  very meticulous and trying to get DeAndre Swift the ball out of the backfield,
• 1:06:41
  whether it be screen passes, circle passes, yea, and it that
• 1:06:45
  just seems to be going to be an integral part of their office this year.
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  And I think that's really something that they wanted to do over the past
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  couple of years and perhaps might been able to do it with a Miles Sanders.
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  But DeAndre Swift is Taylor made for catching the ball out of the backfield,
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  and you want to see that. I mean, he even beat them
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  last year almost in Detroit the first game of the season Week one of twenty
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  twenty two. So I just think it's just going to be very difficult,
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  and it's it's why you want to take at least a couple of years for
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  defensive to really try to figure out what the Eagles are doing offensively. I
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  can't wait to see how this RPO based defense or offense, I'm sorry,
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  is going to develop this season, and specifically, again, those split zone
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  lead plays. I love watching them. Whatever they whenever we're running them.
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  Beautiful to see that really are they really are? Again? Folks. OJ
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  Spivey from the Philadelphia Tribune follow them on Twitter at OJ Philly. And are
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  you on some other social sites out there where people can follow OJ? Yeah,
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  so I'm trying to keep up with everything. I'm also on the same
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  name. I'm on Blue Sky. Let's see what else I want. I
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  also have a Facebook page two more importantly, which I really put my all
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  of my articles on as well. Great, we don't catch and on Twitter.
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  You just go to my Facebook page and it's just simply OJ Spivey dast
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  to journalists, so you can't follow me there as well. So I put
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  my stuff in detail on Facebook as well. Get it done folks follow OJ
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  on the socials out there. Get it done all right. To close us
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  out here, OJ talking about the Eagles defense again, kind of getting into
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  that because last season, of course, we know they set a team record
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  with seventy total sacks and they almost broke the all time sack record last season.
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  It was it was fun to watch. They came close, certainly,
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  But I'm wondering if they're going to need to do something similar this season to
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  remain that dominant force in the NFC and the NFL in general in terms of
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  those sacks. In terms of course, we know they're gonna be able to
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  get pressure, but do they need to put up seventy sacks or more in
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  order to replicate what they did last season? What are your thoughts? I
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  don't think so, because seventy sex is really I mean, they set a
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  franchise record. Ye, they shatter it, and that says a lot.
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  You know, you go back to the game green days of you know,
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  Reggie Why, Jerome Brown, Clyde Simmons, all those guys. You know,
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  those guys wrecked up a lot of steps too. You go back to
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  the Hugh Douglas days and later Trent Cole and even the days you know Flexure
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  Cox going to say that, but it's going to be hard to repulicate that,
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  just because you know history tells us so. But they don't necessarily have
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  to get another seventy sacks. Another fifty five or sixty were by v sufficient
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  because you know, it all matters with game situation. You know, when
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  do they get those sacks the critical times and when they get those how many
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  are those gonna be? Sack fumbles and everything. You probably want to see
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  as many sex fumbles as we saw last year with sign Ready leading their charge.
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  But you know it's it's kind of c seventy, but I don't think
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  it's unrealistic to see fifty five or sixty. All right, sounds good again,
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  folks. OJ Spivey the Philadelphia Tribune. OJ was great talking to you
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  about this Phillies, Phillies, this Eagles team. I'd love to talk Phillies
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  with you at some point as well. Down the ball too, man,
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  Yes, any time, Thank you, Jeff, my pleasure, buddy.
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  That was a fantastic discussion with OJ. And I'm so excited, folks.
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  I'm just so excited. I think all of us in the Eagles Nation are
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  so excited for where this team could go this season. And I know that
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  an ongoing theme that we've been having on this podcast over the course of several
• 1:10:34
  weeks now is are we getting too too hyped for it? I don't know.
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  I don't think so. I just don't think so, folks. I
• 1:10:42
  think that the hype is real and for good reason when it comes to this
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  Philadelphia Eagles team. And we were talking about that public practice, over fifty
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  thousand fans in attendance, the energy that was there, and yes, it
• 1:10:54
  wasn't the greatest practice for some of the members of this Philadelphia Eagles team.
• 1:10:58
  You know, we didn't see a lot of fantastic stuff on the field from
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  them. You know, it was more of a show that was being put
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  on for US fans. But man, it's just the talent on this team,
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  and as OJ was talking about, the depth is really incredible. So
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  we're gonna keep keep on keeping on here with regard to this Philadelphi Eagles team
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  and covering it here on the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show. So that being
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  I'm just having issues, folks, having issues with this little procedure.
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  I have have this thing in my throat right now. It is not fun.
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  I cannot wait to get this out tomorrow morning. At this point,
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  I love how I'm just talking into the microphone into this board. I appreciate
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  you listening. You know you right now. Thank you for listening to this.
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  I really do appreciate it. All right, folks, that's gonna do
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  it for us. Take care, We'll catch you next time.