Latest / Best of Business / Jenee Tibshraeny: NZ Herald Wellington business editor on whether homeowners have missed the perfect time to fix
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- 0:18Speaker 2: With interest rates falling over the course of the last year,
- 0:20Speaker 2: borrowers have been tossing up when to fix and for
- 0:23Speaker 2: how long as you know. In hindsight, it now looks
- 0:26Speaker 2: that a significant number of homeowners who tried to pick
- 0:29Speaker 2: the trough in the cycle actually missed it. Jane tip
- 0:33Speaker 2: Trainey is the HEROLDS Wellington Business Editor's been looking at this. Jane,
- 0:36Speaker 2: good evening. Hi, Ryan, So if you're still waiting now,
- 0:40Speaker 2: you've waited too long, haven't you?
- 0:43Speaker 3: Lookay? I mean you never say never. As you just described,
- 0:46Speaker 3: we live in a crazy world. But from what we
- 0:49Speaker 3: currently see, it seems like the fixed interest rates at
- 0:54Speaker 3: least it seems like they reached their bottom and around
- 0:57Speaker 3: November in December they actually started tracking up. And based
- 1:02Speaker 3: on the new economic data we've had come out this year,
- 1:05Speaker 3: it seems like the economy is actually doing okay. We've
- 1:08Speaker 3: got manufacturing is strong, service sector is strong. Seems like
- 1:13Speaker 3: actually the riskers that we might have a bit more
- 1:16Speaker 3: inflation than expected, which suggests it's very unlikely the OCR
- 1:20Speaker 3: will fall further. So it really does seem like we've
- 1:23Speaker 3: had the lowest of the rates. It seems like we've
- 1:27Speaker 3: already seen them.
- 1:28Speaker 2: You've been looking at how many we're trying to pick
- 1:32Speaker 2: the trough. How many people were betting on rates dropping
- 1:35Speaker 2: further after the last OCR cut in November? Right, Yeah,
- 1:40Speaker 2: that's right.
- 1:40Speaker 3: So the Reserve Bank collects all this mortgage data from banks,
- 1:45Speaker 3: and according to that data, in November, that's for the
- 1:49Speaker 3: latest time that we have it for about half of
- 1:52Speaker 3: new mortgage lending done in November was floating versus fixed.
- 1:57Speaker 3: So that is actually in November that was a super
- 2:00Speaker 3: high percentage. In fact, it was forty nine percent. That
- 2:03Speaker 3: was the highest percentage on the Reserve Banks records that
- 2:06Speaker 3: go back to twenty twenty one percentage of a new
- 2:10Speaker 3: mortgage lending that was floating. So you know, that suggests
- 2:14Speaker 3: to me that a whole bunch of people in November
- 2:17Speaker 3: thought will sit tight for a bit, will wait for
- 2:19Speaker 3: interest rates to fall further. Once they do, then we'll
- 2:23Speaker 3: lock in for like two years or three years, we
- 2:25Speaker 3: even eighteen months, but we'll just sit tight for a
- 2:28Speaker 3: bit longer. So what ended up happening for those people
- 2:31Speaker 3: was that in late November, the Reserve Bank did cut
- 2:34Speaker 3: the OCR, but the market after that was surprised by
- 2:40Speaker 3: some of the Reserve Bank's commentary and interest rates actually
- 2:44Speaker 3: started rising. So you know, I don't know if listeners
- 2:47Speaker 3: and readers recall, but there was a sort of like
- 2:51Speaker 3: a flurry of banks lifting their longer term interest rates
- 2:54Speaker 3: in December. So for all those people who in November,
- 2:57Speaker 3: there's a large portion of them waiting for the for
- 3:01Speaker 3: the cuts. The OCR cut did come, but then unexpectedly
- 3:05Speaker 3: the market started going north because it was by the
- 3:08Speaker 3: Reserve Bank's commentary. So if they did, you know, at
- 3:11Speaker 3: that point want to rush to fix that would have
- 3:13Speaker 3: been a pretty short time. Between the Reserve Bank cutting
- 3:17Speaker 3: the OCA in late November and banks lifting lifting rates,
- 3:21Speaker 3: they would have had probably only a few weeks to
- 3:25Speaker 3: rush in and lock in those those rates. You know.
- 3:29Speaker 3: I talked to a mortgage broke and he said, yes,
- 3:31Speaker 3: there was a big flurry. People did rush you know,
- 3:34Speaker 3: but of course you have to It is interesting to
- 3:36Speaker 3: look at the starter, but you do have to look
- 3:38Speaker 3: at the bigger picture. Thirty year mortgage, twenty year mortgage.
- 3:41Speaker 3: You know, there are all sorts of ups and downs,
- 3:45Speaker 3: But you know it's interesting. It is interesting nonetheless, and
- 3:47Speaker 3: you know, if you have a big mortgage, a few
- 3:49Speaker 3: percentage points does make a difference.
- 3:50Speaker 4: I was going to say, what do we know what
- 3:53Speaker 4: the difference you know, if you've got a million dollar mortgage,
- 3:55Speaker 4: would would it in the scheme of things be a
- 3:58Speaker 4: massive difference to you whether you you know, whether you
- 4:00Speaker 4: in November, December or January.
- 4:04Speaker 3: So the hikes that the banks did was that they
- 4:08Speaker 3: lifted their longer term rates by about thirty basis points.
- 4:12Speaker 3: So you know that's a notable lift. I mean, it
- 4:15Speaker 3: probably depends on how price sensitive you are, and you know,
- 4:19Speaker 3: whether you were if you were part of that cohort
- 4:23Speaker 3: that was trying to time the market sitting there on floating,
- 4:26Speaker 3: you know, paying a bit more to be on floating,
- 4:28Speaker 3: waiting to pick the bottom, then you know you might
- 4:31Speaker 3: have been a bit disappointed. Probably depends on your you know,
- 4:36Speaker 3: your your view on these things as to how gutting
- 4:39Speaker 3: that would be.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Yeah, Jna, good to have you on the show as always.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Jny Tips Trainey is the heralds Wellington Business editor and
- 4:45Speaker 2: has a story out in the Herald about all of this.
- 4:47Speaker 2: You can go and read it ended Herald dot co
- 4:49Speaker 2: dotting z.
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