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The Late Debate | 4 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Place.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show. I'm Danikity Georgio. Tonight
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  Speaker 2: Joe by kayleb Bond and Joe Hildebrand. Gentlemen, good evening.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great evening, isn't it just great? You're feeling it.
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  Speaker 3: That's because you're here with us.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Yeah, otherwise I'd have to be at
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  Speaker 1: home with the wife. And you know.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly that's right. TV wives are much much better than
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  Speaker 4: the real thing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't smile all the time. They nod their
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  Speaker 1: head when.
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  Speaker 2: You're that's because we have to nod our heads when
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  Speaker 2: you talk.
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  Speaker 1: Joe. Yes, I'm prepared to accept that. That's right, that's
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  Speaker 1: should be.
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  Speaker 2: What a fine? What a fight?
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  Speaker 1: I love my I love you baby.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good, I'm glad we've bloody clarified that. Good. Great?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Coming up tonight on the show.
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  Speaker 5: The traditional nine to five and daily commute will be
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  Speaker 5: dead by twenty fifty, according to a global study Ohen
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  Speaker 5: Neural implants will be a common workplace tool by then too.
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  Speaker 2: No, oh, thank you. Should you dob in your neighbour's
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  Speaker 2: barking dog?
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  Speaker 5: A Brisbane couple copter final warning about theirs just twenty
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  Speaker 5: four hours after moving.
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  Speaker 2: In and the Melbourne Cricket Club hit with the woke bat.
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  Speaker 5: If you identify as male, you now have to wear
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  Speaker 5: a collar to gain entry. So how will they be
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  Speaker 5: able to tell who identifies as a bloke or not?
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  Speaker 5: But first, we all know about the housing crisis in
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  Speaker 5: this country, so why are non citizens allowed access to
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  Speaker 5: Labour's five percent deposit scheme. In fact, more than fifty
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  Speaker 5: thousand non citizens have purchased homes through the policy since
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  Speaker 5: eligibility was expanded in twenty and twenty three. That's about
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  Speaker 5: thirteen percent of the total number of participants accessing this
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  Speaker 5: billion dollar scheme and ge. Labour's response when questioned by
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  Speaker 5: Liberal Shadow Minister for Housing Andrew bag Bragg today was
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  Speaker 5: just bizarre.
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  Speaker 6: And why have you expanded this scheme for Australian first
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  Speaker 6: home lineer is to people who aren't Australian citizens. That's
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  Speaker 6: a question for you, minister. Australians who are permanent residents,
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  Speaker 6: have settled permanently here in Australia, are part of the
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  Speaker 6: Australian community. It's an Australian first home buy scheme is
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  Speaker 6: not for people who are not Australians.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, hello, exactly, we don't have enough homes as
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  Speaker 5: it is, the market is unaffordable, labor has brought in
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  Speaker 5: migrants at record levels, and now, as we've just heard,
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  Speaker 5: we're handing non citizens access to a scheme meant to
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  Speaker 5: be for Australians.
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  Speaker 2: Please make it make sense, Caleb.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how I'm meant to. Sorry, Denika, I
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  Speaker 3: may as well give up and go. I mean, it's truly,
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  Speaker 3: it's a very basic thing to say that a first
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  Speaker 3: home buyers scheme should be available to Australian first home
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  Speaker 3: bars because obviously, one of the big problems we have
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  Speaker 3: with housing is that we have too many migrants coming
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  Speaker 3: into the country and not enough homes being built to
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  Speaker 3: cater for them, and so you end up with a
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  Speaker 3: supply and demand problem, and that drives up prices, which,
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  Speaker 3: by the way, will now get worse for first home
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  Speaker 3: buyers because a lot of the places where they look
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  Speaker 3: to buy and are encouraged to buy by the various
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  Speaker 3: first home buyers schemes and whatever that are available to
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  Speaker 3: them are in new developments, because of course they're trying
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  Speaker 3: to subsidize and encourage new development, but of course Where
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  Speaker 3: are the investors now going to go the new developments,
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  Speaker 3: because that is where they're allowed to negatively gear their property.
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  Speaker 3: So you'll now have first home buyers and investors swimming
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  Speaker 3: around in an even smaller pool of houses. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure that'll be really good for first home bars, but
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  Speaker 3: really great for banks, it should be said too. But
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  Speaker 3: now there is no way you can make it make
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  Speaker 3: sense because that is fundamentally the problem here. Why would
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  Speaker 3: you say this scheme A fifth of the people using
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  Speaker 3: the scheme are those who are not citizens of this country,
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  Speaker 3: born in this country. Whatever it might be, this is
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  Speaker 3: the problem is that we have too many margrants buying
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  Speaker 3: houses and we're giving them a pathway to buy a
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  Speaker 3: house as long as they get the right visa. You've
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  Speaker 3: got to go the whole way, I say, if you
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  Speaker 3: want to buy a house in this.
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  Speaker 1: Country, yeah, well maybe.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing I think, the word that's missing from
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  Speaker 4: this whole debate is saying people who are not Australian
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  Speaker 4: citizens yet, because you have to become a permanent resident
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  Speaker 4: before if you're not born here, you have to become
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  Speaker 4: a permanent resident before you become a citizen. And there
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  Speaker 4: is every chance that any number of tens of thousands,
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  Speaker 4: maybe all of most of them are actually waiting for
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  Speaker 4: their citizenship to be granted, because it takes up to
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  Speaker 4: two years from the time that you first apply to.
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  Speaker 1: That first thing.
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  Speaker 4: You have to be living here already, and you have
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  Speaker 4: to get your permanent migration permanent visa granted, and then
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  Speaker 4: you have to apply for citizenship, and that can take
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  Speaker 4: months and months and months. I think the average waiting
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  Speaker 4: time for one class was eight months or something, and
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  Speaker 4: that was just the average time.
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  Speaker 1: So these could well be people say.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I'm here, I've got my permanent visa for Australia.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to be live here for the rest of
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  Speaker 4: my life. I want to buy my house and settle
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  Speaker 4: down here. And my citizenship hasn't come through yet, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, I've applied or I'm going to. I do
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  Speaker 4: want to become a citizen, but I just haven't got
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  Speaker 4: around to it because I'm too busy putting a roof
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  Speaker 4: over my head. And so that these numbers show up
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  Speaker 4: in that system. So I'm not sure Andrew Bragg quite
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  Speaker 4: understands it. I'm not sure if he's.
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  Speaker 3: And if you really want to become a citizen of
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  Speaker 3: this country. Presumably you're the sort of person who is
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  Speaker 3: grateful for what this country has given to you, and
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  Speaker 3: you're really glad you've had the opportunity to move here
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  Speaker 3: or live here, or your parents moved to you here
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  Speaker 3: when you're a kid, whatever, it might be, right, So
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  Speaker 3: you'd suly be the sort of person that would be
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  Speaker 3: willing to cop waiting an extra eight months or whatever
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  Speaker 3: it is for the opportunity to have access to a
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  Speaker 3: first home Buyers scheme because at that point you've become
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  Speaker 3: a citizen, because you'd go, that's fair enough that this
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  Speaker 3: is a scheme that is available.
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  Speaker 4: To honestly telling me that you would see a house
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  Speaker 4: a whole Oh my god, this is a house I
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  Speaker 4: can afford. This is the house I've been successful at
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  Speaker 4: bidding with on auction. I've just made just scraped together
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  Speaker 4: enough money. My wife says she's going to leave me
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  Speaker 4: if we don't get this house, and again, why you know,
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  Speaker 4: But you'd say, I know, I'm not going to do
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  Speaker 4: it because I wouldn't feel right about it, because even
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  Speaker 4: though I've applied to become an Australian citizen, I haven't
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  Speaker 4: actually had the ceremony yet. So I'm just going to
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  Speaker 4: let that my home, of my dreams, my future financial
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  Speaker 4: security disappears.
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  Speaker 2: She shouldn't be eligible altogether.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this scheme was the expanded eligibility happened back
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  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three. And my question would be what
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  Speaker 5: message does this send to everyday ossies who are also
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  Speaker 5: working their backsides off. We can't actually get every day
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  Speaker 5: ossies into homes because there is a housing crisis.
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  Speaker 2: You even mentioned, you mentioned it yourself. You know that
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  Speaker 2: the budget.
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  Speaker 5: Suggests there'll be about thirty five thousand less homes because
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  Speaker 5: of the CGT and the negative gearing changes. We've got
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  Speaker 5: rents going through the roof cost of living crisis, and
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  Speaker 5: we're just saying no, Look, it doesn't matter if you
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  Speaker 5: hear a non citizen have a crack at the housing market.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't understand what message this is supposed to
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  Speaker 5: send to Australians.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's the same message that everyone who has a
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  Speaker 4: Medicare gets. I mean, you don't have to be a
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  Speaker 4: citizen to have to get subsidized medical care through Medicare.
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  Speaker 4: But do you think it's or any other or any
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  Speaker 4: other benefits way to me? We've had about welfare benefits
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  Speaker 4: as well. Permanent residents are eligible for those citizens, and.
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  Speaker 3: There's a legitimate argument to be had about whether or
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  Speaker 3: not they happened. And that is what the Coalition has
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  Speaker 3: recently raised, is that a whole sway that this stuff
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  Speaker 3: should not be available to non citizens, ut least until
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  Speaker 3: the point you have taken the ultimate change and Australian
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  Speaker 3: then why should you have access to this stuff?
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  Speaker 2: So in that case a case of labor.
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  Speaker 5: Labor loves citizenships, right, we know that Labor is obsessed
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  Speaker 5: with citizens with non citizens, I just feel like this
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  Speaker 5: is yet another political ploy by Labor for votes.
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  Speaker 1: Why would they be permanent residents can't.
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  Speaker 5: Vote because they expanded the eligibility criteria though I'm just
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  Speaker 5: saying they.
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  Speaker 1: Just the people who can't vote.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not just saying I.
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  Speaker 1: Just wanted to get their votes.
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  Speaker 4: They'd be saying, you do have to be a because
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  Speaker 4: we cot these fifty one thousand people cannot vote for
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  Speaker 4: the Labor, they cannot vote for anybody. That's exactly what
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  Speaker 4: I was about to say. What what brag and Taylor
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  Speaker 4: are doing. Basically say all these people who.
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  Speaker 1: Labor has has dot them out to but can't vote, will.
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  Speaker 4: Have to become citizens so they can vote before they
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  Speaker 4: access all these goods, and who do you think they're
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  Speaker 4: going to vote?
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  Speaker 3: And this is precisely the problem that Labor has set
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  Speaker 3: up because it then means.
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  Speaker 1: But Labour's are one saying they don't have to become.
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  Speaker 3: Because it means you then become if you have such
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  Speaker 3: a large number of migrants in this country, you then
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  Speaker 3: become beholden to their wants and needs above and beyond
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  Speaker 3: the wants and needs of the Australian majority. Once you
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  Speaker 3: have enough of a rump of voters or potential voters,
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  Speaker 3: you have to start appealing to them, particularly in certain electorates.
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  Speaker 3: Now it doesn't work on a nationwide scale, but there
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  Speaker 3: are electorates that have huge migrant populations and so you
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  Speaker 3: as a party or a candidate to start pandering specifically
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  Speaker 3: to them in order to shure up.
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  Speaker 1: That's what a local MP is meant to do. A
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  Speaker 1: local MP is meant to look after their I get electorate.
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  Speaker 3: I get that. But the point is that we have
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  Speaker 3: brought in a bunch of people from the other side
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  Speaker 3: of the world, and now we've got to deal with
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  Speaker 3: their wants and needs. As opposed to people who were
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  Speaker 3: born in this country exactly.
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  Speaker 4: But they're talking about the difference between permanent residents and citizens,
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  Speaker 4: or are we just saying.
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  Speaker 3: Well, permanent residence. Let's presume that they will be on
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  Speaker 3: the road to citizenship at some point. So you're appealing
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  Speaker 3: to them before they've applied for their citizenship because you
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  Speaker 3: will want their vote when they become a citizen, and
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  Speaker 3: you will be appealing to them after they get their
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  Speaker 3: citizenship because you will want their vote. Then that's right.
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  Speaker 4: But there is only one There is only one major
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  Speaker 4: party that is saying that they have to become citizens
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  Speaker 4: and therefore be able to vote for the Labor Party,
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  Speaker 4: and that is the Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bit of an own goal, don't you think no.
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  Speaker 3: Because they're actually taking a principal point of view and
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  Speaker 3: saying we're not just going to pander to make.
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  Speaker 1: Any more principle and paul En Hanson will be the
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  Speaker 1: prime minister. I don't want that's right right now.
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  Speaker 4: If Augus Taylor is tried to make himself electorally extinct
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  Speaker 4: to pave the way for one nation, and that's his
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  Speaker 4: political strategy. By forcing all these people to become citizens,
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  Speaker 4: and then not vote for them.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff.
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  Speaker 3: We've let in so many people that you do now
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  Speaker 3: have the Candida mirgrants if you potentially want to win government.
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  Speaker 3: This is why people are turning to parties like One Nation,
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  Speaker 3: because they're not happy with the way this country is going.
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  Speaker 3: They're not happy with what most mass migration has done
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  Speaker 3: to this country. Of course, one of the other areas
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  Speaker 3: where mass migration has had a big impact, certainly in
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  Speaker 3: terms of the economy, ie, we're not officially in a
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  Speaker 3: recession because the government keeps creating jobs. For all of
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  Speaker 3: these migrants that they bring in, they at least fund
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  Speaker 3: part of these jobs. Seventy five percent or thereabouts of
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  Speaker 3: jobs in the last few years that have been created
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  Speaker 3: in this country have been linked to government funding. But
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  Speaker 3: it brings me to the issue of the workplace, because
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  Speaker 3: we saw a pay rise this week for those on
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  Speaker 3: minimum wage, a pay rise above in inflation. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: that's great for people who are on minimum wage, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure need that money to keep their heads above water.
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  Speaker 3: But then you've got the concerns of small businesses who
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  Speaker 3: are also trying to keep their heads above water. So
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  Speaker 3: in swoops the union movement of course, sir, the ACTU
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  Speaker 3: Sally McManus, the boss of came out this week and said, well,
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  Speaker 3: why don't we have three day working weeks? She says,
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  Speaker 3: the rise of AI in the workplace will mean that
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  Speaker 3: we'll be able to get to a point where you
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  Speaker 3: basically pay people for five days and they'll only have
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  Speaker 3: to work three. I'm not sure how you'll be able
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  Speaker 3: to explain that one to the council gardener or the
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  Speaker 3: council that's employing the gardener, because I don't think AI
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  Speaker 3: is going to be doing his job for the other
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  Speaker 3: two days. But anyway, there's that problem. And another survey
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  Speaker 3: that has been conducted by a mob called the International
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  Speaker 3: Workplace Group. Now they are a company that does serviced
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  Speaker 3: offices around the world and they've done a survey into
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  Speaker 3: the future of the workplace. So maybe it could be
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  Speaker 3: this three day work week that Sally McManus talks about.
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  Speaker 3: But some interesting stats out of this survey. Seventy percent
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  Speaker 3: of workers said that they believe that the daily commute
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  Speaker 3: will be gone in the next twenty four years.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, because they're out of a job.
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  Speaker 3: By twenty fifty. They think you won't actually have to
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  Speaker 3: go to work anymore. Presumably they think almost all work
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  Speaker 3: will be from home. At the moment, only thirty seven
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  Speaker 3: percent of workers said that they were willing to commute
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  Speaker 3: to work daily. And we've seen some of that obviously
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  Speaker 3: in the move to working from home. People are more
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  Speaker 3: reticent to go off to work. But also it says
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  Speaker 3: out of this survey that workers are expecting that sort
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  Speaker 3: of sci fi technology you might call it. It certainly
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  Speaker 3: is today, but they're developing it. Neural implants and immersive
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  Speaker 3: virtual workplaces they believe will become standard parts of everyday
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  Speaker 3: office tools by twenty fifty.
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  Speaker 1: If you've seen the movie Terminator, you know by.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty fifty people genuinely think that, you know, part of
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  Speaker 3: your job will be that you need to have a
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  Speaker 3: chip in your brain. I'm just saying now, if Scarne
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  Speaker 3: News ever asked me have a chip put in my
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  Speaker 3: brain in order to do my job, I will resign
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  Speaker 3: on the spot.
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  Speaker 5: The market do it as a late debate experiment, a
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  Speaker 5: late debate, I vote for a late debate experiment. Let's
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  Speaker 5: put a chip in Caleb's brain, put him on the brain.
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  Speaker 4: Let's give it a word that's exactly what someone brain,
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  Speaker 4: exactly you know.
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  Speaker 5: First thing, to the point about this three day working week,
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  Speaker 5: Sally McManus is basically contradicting herself here. She says that
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  Speaker 5: she's the person you know for the workers, were the
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  Speaker 5: workers first, But then she's saying, oh, no, we'll only
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  Speaker 5: do a three day working week because the rest of
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  Speaker 5: the time will put AI ahead. So which one do
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  Speaker 5: you want, Sally McManus, seriously, but again, it is small
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  Speaker 5: businesses that suffer in this country.
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  Speaker 2: Not only are they up against the.
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  Speaker 5: Unions who want a three day working working week, they
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  Speaker 5: want mandatory working from home provisions, they've got energy costs, ir, laws,
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  Speaker 5: is impossible right now to do business in this country.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously. And second of all, that's stat that.
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  Speaker 5: You just read out, Caleb, thirty seven percent of workers
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  Speaker 5: are willing to commit to work daily. I'm sorry, thirty
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  Speaker 5: seven percent only are willing to commit to working. It
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  Speaker 5: even said in this research actually that the desire to
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  Speaker 5: ditch peak hour is so strong, strong that one third
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  Speaker 5: of Aussie's so that they would forego a pay rise
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  Speaker 5: just to work from home. I personally find that extraordinary
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  Speaker 5: in the middle of a cost of living crisis, that.
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  Speaker 2: You would want to forego a pay rise.
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  Speaker 5: Personally, I think that the cost of living is pretty bad.
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  Speaker 4: That increases their productivity. It means they're doing more for less.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean we don't well true, but I mean
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't you in a cost of living crisis want to
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  Speaker 5: try and get a little bit more money wherever you can.
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  Speaker 5: The only other thing I worry about, of course, is
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  Speaker 5: the future of CBDs that we saw during the COVID pandemic.
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  Speaker 5: CBDs were basically ghost towns and a number businesses, particularly
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  Speaker 5: in the restaurant and the cafe and any of the
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  Speaker 5: hospitality industries, they went bust and still to this day
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  Speaker 5: a number of them have not been able to be
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  Speaker 5: resurrected because people still have not gone back to the
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  Speaker 5: cities to work. So I worry about what this would
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  Speaker 5: mean for the future of the scene.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what, They've gone back to Sydney
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  Speaker 4: and the Sydney cb day to work. As of course,
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  Speaker 4: Chrismins has a very different approach to decen to al
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  Speaker 4: and to get people back into the office. And I
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  Speaker 4: can tell you, having just done two days, I'm, in
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  Speaker 4: fact I'm uniquely equipped to answer this because I just
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  Speaker 4: spent two days in the Sydney CBD hosting Telecommunications and
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  Speaker 4: Tech conference, and the one that pretty much the only
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  Speaker 4: thing that anyone was.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about was AI.
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  Speaker 4: And if you think, you know, if you think all
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  Speaker 4: these changes are coming in twenty fifty or twenty forty
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  Speaker 4: or twenty thirty five, they are coming tomorrow. They are
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  Speaker 4: happening now and we just haven't felt the full impact
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  Speaker 4: of them. But AI is going to do things that
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: are going to just transform everything about.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: The way we leave and work. I'm not particularly happy about.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: This because journals AI brain chip.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: No, certainly, absolutely and no way would. But of course
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: it has been. It's a long joke, like everyone who's
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: worked at Newsical for twenty and say, oh, yeah, I
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: got the chip. You know that's if you leave it explode.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: If you leave it explode, so you know it's still here.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: So as far as I know that not being literal though,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: that is just a running gag.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: But you well, you never know.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: But there was a guy who voluntarily got an open
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: card chip inserted into his hands so he could just
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: wave his hand on the reader and then the gates
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: would open.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: And it turns out that you know, you can just
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: use your credit card.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Fine, exactly.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: So this is so.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: The thing is that any chip like that or anything
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: like that, it's going to be obsolete for so long,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: even if you look at all I was looking even
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: just here in this amazing you know, purpose built, you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: state of the art, high tech, futuristic, you know headquarters
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: that Sky has we've got and lucky for them, they've
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: got the two USB sized.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Charges in the powerpoints.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: But of course one of them is now already obsolete,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: when just a couple of years ago it was all
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: anybody used. Now the AI stuff. This is why Sally,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: I don't think quite as a head around what it is.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: It's not just either AI is going to do x
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: amount of work, so there won't be enough work for
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: us to me to do. I'll just be sitting around
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: doing three days a week. If you're the sort of
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: person who's going from five days a week to three
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: days a week and being paid the same amount, AI
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: has already eliminated your job, you are gone. The jobs
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: that AI is going to be taking are not traditional
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: blue collar union jobs because they had their own technological
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: revolution where blue collar workers lost their jobs to machines
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: and computers that did it for them. Now what AI
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: is going to do clusing Their name is the so
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: called intelligence or cerebral jobs, so it will be things
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: like lawyers, it will be you know, medical diagnostics. Doctors
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: could be in more trouble than fitters and turners. So
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: again I'm not sure which Sally comes from the Australian Services.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: So she comes from a white collar union, so maybe
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: that's what she's thinking about. But those jobs, if those
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: jobs can be done by AI, no one's sitting around
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: doing a three day week. Your role is absolutely gone.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: And the role that stays is the person who can
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: then you know, check the results of the AI you know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: a minute later, and tick off on it or not.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And so I think that to have in your head, oh.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: There's going to be a sort of machine next to
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: me that can do the filing, you know, twice as fast,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: so I'll only work half the time, has no comprehension
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: of just how massive it's going to turn entire industries
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: upside down.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Look, I think that we don't have AI is with us,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: As you said, I don't think that we we can
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: deny the horse has absolutely bolted and look I am
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: four AI.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: The thing I do worry about though, I doesn't care
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: whether you're AI.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Does chat JPT doesn't care about danaked to Georgio, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: that's fine. I like chat GPT, but I think as well,
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: we will lose the social impact of a workforce.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: And I think that's right.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: We will lose it will change what it means to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: be human.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: And now I think I agree.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: And so one of the things I met when I
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: was at this conference was a robot dog, and I
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: can tell you I didn't much like the look of it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Very nice people who designed it and everything. I think
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: it was from uts. But what's the point of having
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: a robot dog? You want a real dog. You want
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: something that you feel emotional connection to, that you can cuddle,
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: that you can put on your balcony and let it
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: bark for an hour or so. Because that's what these
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: residents in Brisbane did, these two young couple, lovely people.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Apparently someone sit there on anyway, I won't say that
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: just in case, but they had moved into a new
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: property on the Sunshine Soorry from the Sunshine Coaster, a
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: new home in Brisbane, and within twenty four hours of
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: being there, which has got to be a new land
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: speed record, they had received a complaint from their neighbor,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: who we you can only assume is called Karen, because
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: they had their dogs on the balcony.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: For an hour.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Or so, they said, and the dogs are barking, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: the neighbor threatened to report them to the RSPCA, and
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: these guys are just absolutely so.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: They've said, in their defense.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Look, the only reason we had them on the balcony
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: is because we haven't got offense on the property yet
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: and we had trade's there so they couldn't be in
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: the house, and so for their safety, we just had
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: them on balcony.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: It was just an hour, you know. And yeah, they're barking,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: but whatever.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: That's not particularly long amount of time to have to
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: put up with a little bit of barking.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And you would think that if you're going, if you.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Cared so much about the animal's welfare that you were
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: going to report to the RSPCA, that you would actually, well,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: let's not play.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Let's play. Let's play what the couple said in their defense, we've.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: Been in their house for a week and were already
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: happy for the neighbors.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Fun fact, it was within twenty four hours of USS
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: moving in.
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: Dogs in distressed Please take this as a first and
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: final notice. Only time they were on the balcony was
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: because they were electricians doing electricity work in our house,
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: so having the dogs inside wasn't safe business.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: You said, exactly what I know.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I think that is a completely fair argument.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: They had just moved into the property, that for twenty
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: four hours they put the dogs on the balcony while
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: electrical work was being conducted inside.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: They were trying to be safe.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: They were trying to prevent any sort of accident or injury.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: And this Karen's already on the blower to the RSPCA
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: trying to dob them in. I think this is actually ridiculous. Now,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I do think there is.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: There any circumstance in which you would pick up a
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: call pick up phone and call the rsp or authorities
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: about a neighbor or a neighbor's dog.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: If I witnessed any sort of abuse, if I felt
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: like the dog or any animal was being abused, one
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: hundred percent, I would get on the phone straight away.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: If the dog I could hear.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Barking or crying for long periods on end, and I
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: felt like with the homeowner said, for twenty four hours,
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: but they were there, they were there. It wasn't like
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: they were neglected on the balcony, but you know.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: They were maybe they were about to jump couple.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: This couple was there.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Now, there are cases, obviously where dogs are kept inside
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: for a long periods of time, and I do understand
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: it absolutely irritates the crap out of neighbors when dogs are.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Just barking, barking, barking, barking, barking.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Now, if it happens multiple times over and over, then
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: I think maybe you have a right to not necessarily
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: go the RSPCA, but maybe I llert the council that.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: There was a dog that is driving through.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know, I mean, I've had my
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: own experience with annoying neighbors.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, this is what I want to get out, exactly
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: what I want to get But what did dog do?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Were you that? Were you? Were you the complainer or
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the complainer?
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Well, it has nothing to do with dogs. What happened
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: with my neighbor? So well, my neighbor was we're a prostitute.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, that escalated quickly.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it did escalate pretty quickly. Does she have a dog?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Or by the sounds that I heard at two am.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: And the more it was a noise complaint.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: But the point is that, yes, so there were multiple
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: noise complaints, and I loved the.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: From the parties involve I loved.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: I loved leaving home at four am one morning for
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: a shift work for a shift when I was working
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: in reporting, and there was an old man knocking at
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: her door. It would have been in his seventies, so
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: that was fun. She was in her twenties. But anyway,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: it was a complaint made by all of the neighbors
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: along my floor.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I just want to point out, but I earn a living.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: You know, she's not out there with her hand out
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: asking for government benefits. You know, she's probably an Australian citizen.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: You know, well, I don't know, trying to pay off
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: the mortgage and you.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Doing the sole traders that's right, small business woman said.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Businesses and the topic.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: So what was the outcome of your complaint?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: So she was evicted eventually, really she was evicted. Yeah
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: there were.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Other noose sex We're British, but.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was pretty bad. This was really really bad.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: I was frustrated, Like you wouldn't believe it was driving.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Why don't you you know a bit of double glazing,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: you know, a bit of downproof.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think that would have had much of an impact.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: When evicted by Danika to Georgia. No, but yeah, yeah,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I can understand it being a probably can two things
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: be true at once in the case of the dog,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: because if there was a dog, someone's just moved in
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: and within a day of them being there they put
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the dogs on the balcony and they start barking away
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: for an hour, you might think, oh my god, this
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: is this is how it's going to be now that
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: these new neighbors are here. Now, I'm not saying it
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: was the right course of action to go and send
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: them some sort of threatening letter saying if you do anymore,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going to call ours PCA immediately. Like maybe you
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: go around and knock on the door and say, look,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I know you've just moved in, nice to meet you.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to do some work. Your dogs
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: are really annoying on the balcony whatever, And then they
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: can say, look, really sorry, it's just because the traders
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: are here for an hour. We'll take them in after that.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: No more problem. Like there are bitter ways to handle
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. But I but I understand where
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: the frustration comes from.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: This is exactly and I think you've actually nailed it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's about the dogs at all. I
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: think there are just two types of people in the world.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: There are people who like to complain and will look
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: for any reason to do so, people like Danika to Georgia,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: that's what they all say. And there are people like
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: I dare say, my good self. I remember listened to
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: a historian who said that he would have been terrible
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: if he was on the Titanic, because he would have
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: condemned his entire family to death, because he would have
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: just stood there and says, now, now, Darling, I'm sure
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: the captain knows what he's doing. Let's not bother him.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: It seems very busy, and I am very much like that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I would if I if I thought there was a
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: dead body in my neighbour's backyard, I still wouldn't pick
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: up the phone and complain, because.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I just if a dog was barking at all hours
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: of the night, every night, complainer, you wouldn't complain about it,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: and it's making you from your sleep, you would move.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I don't want to make a fuss yep Wow, like
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: making a fast?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: You ever made it? As a journalist, Joe, making a
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: fast is often a large part of the job.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I was, how's this this? This could be some This
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: would be cheaper. It's cheaper to say it on TV
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: than it is in therapy. But my dad was once
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: cutting me eye holes for a Batman mask, and he
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: actually had a bit of my perhaps foolishly was cutting
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: the eye holes while I had the mask on my head,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: so I hadn't really thought it through, and I could
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: hear when he pulled the material up he actually had
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: a bit of He had my kind of eyelid in it,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: and I knew he was about to cut a hole
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: in my eyelid. And I said nothing because I didn't
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: want to.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I didn't want to upset him. I didn't want to
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: bother him. I didn't want to make a fast. And
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: that was when I was what you know, dressing up
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: as a superhero in stocking.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: So what thirty five years old.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: It's incredible we heard a lot about each other. Really,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: this is a very intimate gathering of the lake I.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Had roped up because next door neighbor's house got Batman
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: costume that's where the complains.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: At two am in the morning as you were knockick on.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: The top a crime.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I have to say, work in intimate gatherings at the
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: apartment next that.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: I'll be out there and I'll find you, and potentially
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: no intimate gatherings at the MCG either. How's that for
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: a segue. So this is just the funniest story in
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: the world. Anyone who knows Melbourne knows that Melbourne Cricket
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Club knows that it is the stuffiest organization on the planet.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: People are constantly getting upbraided for, you know, ladies not
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: having the correct length.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Of their dress or whatever, whatever, whatever it is.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: So, but the MCC has waded into the gender debate,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: it is waged in, waded into the trans wars, and
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: it has come out with its policy position on this
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: furious debate. We've had giggle versus tickle, you know, We've
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: had JK rowling, We've had women complaining about trans women,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: biological men using their most private and intimate spaces. And
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: the MCC, is venerable institution that's almost two centuries old,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: has decided it is going to weigh into this debate.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Boots in all and declare its position and its position,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: I kid you not. As incredibly well reported by The Australian,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: its position is that if you are a woman, a
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: biological woman who identifies as male, then you have to
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: wear a collar. They have actually said, okay, right, we've
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: thought about it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: We've had the board meeting.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: You know, we've pulled out the G ANDTS sundown if
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: you identify as a male, If you're a biological woman
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: who identifies as male as a man, and you are
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: aged eighteen or over, you have to wear a collar.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: To get into the members section.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Why, like, seriously, Yes, it's just ridiculous, isn't it. It's
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: because this is what IT now sees in their rules.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: It says members and their guests who identify as male
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: and are age seventeen years and over must wear a
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: collared shirt at all times. This continues to be the
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: major reason for male members and guests being denied. No.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I note they say they're who identify as male, and
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: then later on they say the major reason for male members.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: They didn't say members who identify as males. They're having
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: a bob each way.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Well, male members who don't have male members.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's right.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, how are they now going to determine
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: who is and is not a male? Like this weekend
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: at the Footing, there will there will be a lot
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: of being with beards wearing Oh sorry, women with beards
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: are wearing T shirts because they'll rock up the MC
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: scene and say, well, I don't identify as male. I
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: don't need to wear a collar, do I surely you
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: can let me in. I wouldn't had a look because
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I'm a member of the Saker, the South Australian Cricket Association,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: and indeed their rules say the same thing. It says
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: members and their guests who identify as male must wear
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: a collared shirt. Now, the collared shirt thing has always
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: been in place, so I have no issue with that.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: We should have standards in the members, Like why does
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: it need to be about identify as male. I'm pretty
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: sure all of us, you know, even though some want
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: us to just you know, not believe our lying eyes.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: We know what a male is and what a female is.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: We don't need to have rules for people who identify as.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Wants to draw in the MC.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, Caleb, I mean, gosh, you
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: got to be careful where you talk such common sense.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: You could get hold in front of a court, just
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: like sal Grover didn't talk in such common sense.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: That is part of the problem. But isn't it such
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: a shame that I could.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Called in front of some cricket club quango until disreputable
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: to the club or something.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Isn't it just so sad now that organizations don't know
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: they feel obliged to address the general this is the problem, right,
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: because you could just leave it and not say anything.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: You're right because prior to I would say, about five
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: to six years ago, this was never an issue. You
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: never had to go Is this person a man? Or
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: no one woul ever spoke about it. But because it's
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: been so highly politicized and it's on this ideological trans
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: trade into the never never, suddenly it's all, well, we
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: better make a policy because otherwise we're worried that we
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: might fall foul of history, when history would suggest that
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: basic biology.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Is actually pretty simples.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Is where they keep kicking own goals. They then keep
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: giving your own goals because they they spend god knows
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: how long and God knows how many resources coming up
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: with completely imaginary hypothetical scenarios that they then have to say,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: how fine a solution for even when it has never
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: actually happened and probably will never actually happen, and indeed,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: on the tiny chance that it did happen, would be
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: some point a distant speck of dust in the future
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: which could easily be resolved by the people involved without
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: any needs for policy or blah blah. And this is
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: exactly why people lost their minds, and rightly so, because
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: it was so idiotic when the sex Discrimination Commissioner at
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: the Australian Human Rights Commission started talking about why trans
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: women needed protection against being discriminated against on the basis
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: of being pregnant, and you had Makaulae Cash in the
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Senate going, but they can't get pregnant, and she says, ah, yes,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: but we have envisaged a completely again hypothetical, fantastical, imagine
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: scenario that did not happen in the real world and
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: probably will never happen in the real world, in which
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: a trans warman is discriminated against by a potential employer
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: who thinks that she is going to get pregnant for
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: even though there is actually no way that she can.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: So it's just bonkers, and the MSAC is almost the
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: perfect like it's almost satires. I almost like, all right,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: you want us to come up with the Crans policy, Fine,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: wear a collar like everybody else.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what I would say, I don't identify
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: as male. I just am male, and I don't have
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: much choice in that. So maybe I get to evade
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: the rules as part of because I don't identify. It's
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: not up to me. I just am, by the way,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: in the Sacker rules as far as I can tell,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: with all the stuff. But you know, you can't show
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: mid riffs, but certain dresses are acceptable. It doesn't say
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: only for women. So if you want to go to
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the Adelaide test this year as a bloke in the dress,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: so I think you're actually allowed to do so.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Of course, we talked about this story last night, just
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: a horrific story out of England about a young man,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Henry Novak, who of course died while he was being
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: taken into custody because the police believed his attacker, a
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Sikh man who said that he had been racially vilified
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: by this young man, and so when he said I'm
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: being stabbed, the police said, I don't think you have
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: been mate, and then they put the handcuffs on him,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: and then he said I can't breathe, and then well,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: they didn't do a great deal at all. And you're
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: probably wondering, how do we get to this point? And
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: of course we get to this point because we drive
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: it into the heads of these coppers that they have
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: to take the racial element more seriously than a white
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: man saying that he's literally been stabbed and he is dying.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: And we find out today via The Times of London
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: that police in the Hampshire and Isle of Wight Constabulary
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: had a survey not too long ago that the paper
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: got its hands on that according to the Times, this
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: is a recent staff a survey uncovered by The Times.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: This is the reporting of GBN News found one in
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: seven of those at that force had felt quote controlled
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: and pressured to adopt the notion of unconscious bias, to
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: be aware of racism, to be aware of privilege, even
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: such things as critical race theory, and that they were
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: living in fear that quote mistakes would have been held
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: against me. A fifth also said that they feared been
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: rejected for saying the wrong thing, the same defense used
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: to justify not pursuing criminal charges against those involved in
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: grooming gang scandals, so you can understand. And I don't
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: want to defend the officers in this situation because what
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: they did was absolutely wrong and it was racist, as
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I said last night, But from on high, these officers
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: are having drummed into them that races are really important
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: part of their policing, and we have now seen the
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: logical conclusion of that, where they have chosen to look
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: at the racial element over the actual safety and criminality
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: that is in front of their faces.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Nigel Farage was earlier on Paul Murray. He said it's
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: time to get rid of de This is what he said.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: You have to get rid of DEI.
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: You have to get rid of positive discrimination and you
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: have to tell those police officers you police everybody equally
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: and you use your judgment and we will back you
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: all the way as police officers. I've had so many
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: emails over the last few days from police officers telling
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: me their biggest fear is to be accused by a
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: member of the public as having acted in a racially
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: motivated way, because they will be suspended immediately.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: And so this is exactly the problem the ideology that
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: has captured not only law enforcement but also politicians at large.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: Even over in the UK, you remember the rape gang scandal.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: There was a huge.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Cover up because officers feared that they would be called
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: racist given that the perpetrators were mainly, not all, but
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: mainly of Pakistani origin.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: But DEI in any sort of law enforcement is a concern.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I know this is a very different story, but we
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: saw it over in the US when one of the
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump assassination attempts, when the Secret Service was full
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: of women who were tiny and they couldn't support him.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: But because the Secret Service had DEI policies in place,
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: it meant the wrong people were being put into the jobs.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: If we don't change these policies, more and more people
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: are going.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: To be killed or injured. And it is a blight
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: on society that we have allowed officers.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Or anyone for that matter, to be so scared to
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: speak the truth, to be so scared to do their
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: own jobs to the best of their ability, to their
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: full capability, out of concern of being called racist or
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: a bigot or xenophobic. What sort of a message are
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: we sending.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's absolutely bonkers.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: And the UK and their justice system or the way
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: that they prosecute people is for me, it's just something
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: I cannot get my head around.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: It's just a lost cause.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: And I think this will happen, and I think that
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: if any possible good can come out of it will
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: be that there is some kind of degree of common
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: sense be actions like these that are why people are
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: turning to reform, to Nigel Farage, to Donald Trump in
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: the US, and to Paul En Hanson here because they
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: just look at that and they think that is absolutely crazy.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: And anyone who is defending it, I want them gone.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I want no part of it. I will choose anything.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: But no, I agree.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: And the sad part is an innocent eighteen year old
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: has lost their life and if you've seen that vision,
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: it's absolutely horrific. We're going to take a quick break
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: and coming up, but next we'll take a look at
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: tomorrow's front pages, including Victorian taxpayers being forced to put
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: the bill so that prisoners can get weight loss jabs
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: behind bars another day in Victoria.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: That's next. Welcome back.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Let's take a look now at the front pages. What's
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: making headlines tomorrow. Cayleb you've got the Herald's.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Son, indeed, Dodnika where it says lamb shank redemption. That's
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: a good one here from Karlie Douglas. Are you'll be
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: surprised to know Joe good friend of mine.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Oh God.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Tax says are footing the bill for prisoners to access
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: weight loss drugs ozempic and munjaro behind bars. While regular
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: victorians pay up to almost seven hundred dollars a month.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: The Herald Sun can reveal murderers, rapists, and pedophiles. All
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: the best people in the world obviously looking to shed
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: a few kilos while in jail, are able to access
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: the weight loss drug. Prison guards, speaking anonymously said inmates
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: would quote go nuts if they didn't get their doz
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: for something my god or munjaro. Now, look, I I
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: just you know, strange idea, I know, but I thought
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: the whole point of prison was that, you know, it
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: was a bit of a punishment, and you don't get
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: the same things that everyone else does. And if you
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: go nuts quote unquote because you can't get your hands
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: on some ozimpic, surely you're in line for a little
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: bit more punishment, aren't you? Not to not the provision
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: of ozempic or munjaro at no cop lost.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're just trying to save money on the catering bill.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: Imagine how much mashed potato they be pocketing now they
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: don't have to keep your head out to these.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: They've lost their appetites. I'm a bit seriously, how can.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: The Alan government explain this one? Now? It just gets
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: worse and worse for the Victorian taxpayer.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: If you're watching for Victoria to I feel sorry for
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: you because it's another burden on the taxpayer.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, at least though there is another element.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: It might not just be about saving all the food.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: It could be because you know, they've got a shortage
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: of prison spaces in Victoria. If they put them all
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: on the Munjaro and the oz exactly gets slimmer, they
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: can shove more to a bed.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Top and tail maybe they could or something a lot
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: of creaking beds.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Jeez, I thought that was happening next door to you.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: It what happened to like that?
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: You know, when the mattress gets given the former Treasurer
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: of South Australia won't see.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: To rackham and pack them and stack them and that's
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: what they'll be doing with Yeah, hi prisoners.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: All right, there you go let's look at the Daily
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Telegraph tomorrow. Ahmed assault Bondi hero allegedly put his father
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: in a headlock. Bondi hero Ahmed our Armed has been
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: charged after allegedly putting his father in a headlock. Al Hmed,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: who disarmed terrorists aaj Akram during the December terror attack
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: Bondi Beach, has now been charged with common assault, stalking
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: or intimidation following an investigation that began nearly three months ago.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Wow, so that's that's a real bummer, isn't it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: You know you thought you had ah.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Look, yes, we've got these terrorists who are absolutely awful,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: but we also have this hero who saved the day
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: by tackling a terrorist and wrestling him to the ground,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: and it turned out it was just a guy who
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: just really liked tackling people. Yeah, allegedly allegedly allegedly. Yeah,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know, It's just you can't who can you
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: believe in? You know, this way, you'd never meet your
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: heroes anyway.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: The Daily.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Advertiser, i should say, has one of the all time
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: great front pages in the history of front pages. This is,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: of course, my great friend Peter Melnowskus never met him
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: but I'm sure if we did meet, we'd really get long.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: To meet him.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: There you go, we could have the handshake game.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: No, but I do have the phone number of the
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: bloke next to him, Tom kuts and Tonus the Greatest
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Coats is unreal, the greatest greatest treasurer of all time.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Just ask him.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: World's greatest treasure So he is awesome. But I have
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: to give it to the Tizer here because the story, obviously,
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: which I tragically am familiar with, is that they have,
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: despite being vari austute economic managers, South Australia has wracked up.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Just a deany, diny little bit of that.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: And so the tires has just gone to town with
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: debt Shop Boys limited edition fifty three billion dollar album
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: of Greatest Hits. State debt will explode to fifty three
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: point sixty five billion for the first time with the
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: blowout to fund the fifteen point four billion dollar South
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Road Tunnels, the three point two billion dollar new women
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: and Children's Hospital, and handing down the State Buddy. Yesterday,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Treasurer Tom Kotz and Tonus Absolute Superstar insisted South Australia
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: was not following the path of Victoria because revenue was
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: growing to one hundred and five million dollar a day,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: driving down debt to revenue ratios. Good point, well made
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: coats and blah blah blah blah blah. The other really
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: funny thing in it is that Peter Malanowskis had a
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: quiet little at the Albanezi government and said, well, you know,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: we're just keeping all our promises.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Twisting the nights.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Wow, that's bad though, that is horrendous debts.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: No, it's fine.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Didn't you read what he said?
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: It's all fine, just because if they say it's fine,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: it must be fun. I mean, that's a very good
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: point you make about the jabb At elbow, because it's
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: almost every labor premier now has had a jab at
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: him over the changes.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Not just the outgoing, No, not not just but Roger.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: The loyalty follower.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Roger Cook's been into him, Chris Min's has been into
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: it now, Peter Malanowskis has been into him. Not many
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: friends in the very friendless, but you know, fifty three
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: billion dollars of debt, it's at some point we have
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: to pay this stuff back, exactly, And who is it
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: going to be paying it back? Not the people who
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: are making decisions today. That's for sure. You want to
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: talk about intergenerational equity. I think debt is a pretty
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: good place to start. On the front of The Australian tomorrow,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: speaking of budgetary matters, it says PM budget is a
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: cure for grievance. Anthony Albanez. He says his government needed
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: to undertake contentious tax reform to protect Australia from joining
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: the social and economic dislocation we see overseas of insurging
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: support for one nation. In a speech to the Australian
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Economic Outlook twenty twenty sixth summit jointly hosted by a
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: scar using The Australian, the Prime Minister will strongly defend
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: his budget of broken promises, rebuff calls were big changes
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: of the capital game, text, discount hit on businesses and
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: investors and declar Australia open for international business investment under
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: his government. The bloke's been on the copia, thank you
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: for this is going to work, and.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah we need more international investment because now we can
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: tax twice as much.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: We're open for business.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: Come on, let's take a quick look at the courier
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: mail cops four hundred million dollar black hole taxpayer cache
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: meant to pay for frontline police officers was spent on
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: hiring civilian staff for damning. Reporting to Queensland Police Finances
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: reveals the audit found QPS is facing a four hundred
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: million dollar funding black hole.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Some Oh, I think that black hole.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: We're just not blackout in our studio. That's that's terrific.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Well this might be.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: I think we should go and work for the police
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: force and cops should come.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: Now, what we're going to do while we get to blackout?
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: Sort and we're going to go take a quick break.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Coming up. You won't want to miss what happened. We're back.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: We're back. Coming up.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: After the break, we'll show you what a cup on
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: Safari missed while they were out some baking.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: That's next. Welcome back to the show.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: Well, not everyone on their fits bow journey is having
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: much luck, are they, Caleb?
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: No, I mean you'd be mistaken for thinking this was
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: a vision of me going to the gym. The only
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: problem with that would be that I don't go to
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: the gym, So it would not be vision.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Of when you look as good naturally, a vision where improve.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Manas good as I do. I mean, you don't need
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: to go to the gym. I do my exercises every
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: night with glass in hand. I do my arm exercises
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: like this, you know, keeps me big and.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Strong, cut your steak as well.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, you know I'm doing all the work right
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: and you know, a bit of walking every now and again.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Just good to the pub. But if I were to
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: go to the gym, it would probably look something like this.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: By that, that's not a terribly successful Is it his
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: first time going on a trademill?
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: I feel a bit sorry in a circumstance like that, though.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: Isn't the trick to get up and act as though
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: you meant it gotcha?
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 47:14
  Speaker 5: Okay, you know what, Credit to him for giving it
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: a crack. At least he's out there trying.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: To improve him. That's right.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: He's obviously got low self esteem and he's decided I'm
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: going to go and improve myself and go to the gym,
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: and then the humiliated in front of all the people.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Understand the treadmill thing. Just go for a walk or around.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: I agree with you, I do agree. You get some
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: fresh air. Fresh air is the best thing for you,
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: mental health, for everything. So I don't understand why people
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: walk on a treadmillon gym. It's so suffocating. Now, look,
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: let's go over seas where a couple was on a
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: safari trip. They were out taking a lovely little sun bake,
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: but they were caught unawares but didn't notice.
• 47:52
  Speaker 9: It has been filmed sun baking while on safari when
• 47:55
  Speaker 9: a wild baboo creeps up behind them to steal this snap. Nope,
• 48:01
  Speaker 9: they didn't notice. The pair was so glued to their
• 48:03
  Speaker 9: phones they had mind that gave the animal plenty of
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: time to have a feed. A worker, though, soon saw
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: what was happening and came running down to shoe the
• 48:12
  Speaker 9: b moon away.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: How the heck did they not notice?
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: So?
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: What on earth were they looking at on their phones
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: that they did not notice at a giant baboon was
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: standing right now?
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: Next?
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Why would you go on a safari in Africa where
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: the whole point is to look at, yes, my nature,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: and then just be staring at your phone save your money?
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or maybe they've got children in they're so used
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: to the kids coming and stealing the snacks that it
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: was baboon.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: She just thought it was her husband.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Your love.
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: Anyway, how about this? This is something that you probably
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: wouldn't necessarily expect. But an Icelandic TV channel has accidentally
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: aired an episode of the Tellytubbies, which you know, no crime, there,
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  Speaker 4: no problem, great entertaining and informing kids. I dipsy and
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  Speaker 4: is the weird one.
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  Speaker 2: Winky inky winky tinky.
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  Speaker 3: Or tinky winky and anyway extort to you.
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  Speaker 1: So it's all going well so far.
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  Speaker 4: It's all going well so far, except they aired it
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  Speaker 4: with subtitles from the Sopranos. So you have got this
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: image here which says.
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  Speaker 1: I know you were high at my mother in law's funeral.
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  Speaker 4: Now again, I know at face value that seems jarring,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: but if you've seen the Telly Tubbies, I know they
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: were high as well.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: They are, yes, Poe is just like so.
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  Speaker 4: I actually think that the you know, the subtitles actually
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: may may portray a greater truth.
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  Speaker 2: I always thought that tipsy was it.
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  Speaker 4: Dipsy tipsy, dipsy will dip dipsy. They wouldn't even know themselves.
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  Speaker 5: And then they had the sun. Remember there was the sun.
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  Speaker 5: God that's taking me back, good time.
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  Speaker 3: It is like going through a trip, isn't it.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Tabs are on drugs, that's all.
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  Speaker 5: That's all we need to know exactly. Thank you for
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: accompanied tonight and stay with us. Coming up next, it's
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  Speaker 5: The Reda Panahee Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good Night,