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The Thing part 2 · Cuff’s Basement

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  Speaker 2: A creature can speak to God. It sounds all like
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  Speaker 2: scientology on it.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds it sounds a lot like Maximum is Real.
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  Speaker 5: Camels were saying that I was just pitching being real.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, their parents should be publicly executed.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, so we're gonna say we're gonna buy our son's rights.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to completely say the opposite of everything he
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  Speaker 1: ever believed in. And then we're gonna say he's still alive.
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  Speaker 2: And Zachary, where do I? Where do I side?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Grace, we are Oh, thank you, you got me
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  Speaker 1: a celtzer.
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  Speaker 2: You're a delight. We are continuing the thing, or as
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  Speaker 2: they say in Friends, the thing.
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  Speaker 4: That's the French poster.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, we are getting back to the most famous scene
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  Speaker 1: in this movie, maybe the best scene in this movie.
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  Speaker 1: It is the blood scene. So McCready comes up with
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  Speaker 1: this idea, how does he explain it.
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  Speaker 5: That he when they see what happened with Norris's head
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  Speaker 5: separating from the burning body and surviving that it's spiderhead.
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  Speaker 4: It's parts of a hole.
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  Speaker 5: It's not just one item. It will find a way
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  Speaker 5: to survive and adapt. So if we can test the blood,
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  Speaker 5: it will try to defend itself or separate from the
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  Speaker 5: blood that is injured. So, yes, he's heating up a
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  Speaker 5: stripped wire with the blowtorch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he ties everybody up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he has using the blow torch to heat this
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  Speaker 1: like stripped copper wire, and he has these petri dishes
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, one by one, I'm gonna put your
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  Speaker 1: blood in these petri dishes and the scalding hot copper wire,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick in the blood. So one thing I
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  Speaker 1: hate about movies, and this movie is guilty of it,
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  Speaker 1: is whenever somebody has to cut themselves in a movie,
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  Speaker 1: it's always ridiculously aggressive and deep.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always like overkill. Yeah, nobody was.
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  Speaker 1: Even if you have a scalpel and you accidentally cut yourself.
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  Speaker 1: These people are like cutting deep into their fingers and
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  Speaker 1: then like pressing on it and squirting out blood into
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  Speaker 1: the petrie dish.
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  Speaker 2: This should like Billy and stew each other instead feeling
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  Speaker 2: a little woozy here that one did not work out. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: no it did not, And.
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  Speaker 4: So they test windows first.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh, also, I forgot something huge. I'm so sorry
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  Speaker 1: I forgot something. So before they do this, when Child says,
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  Speaker 1: you ain't tie me up, and he says, then I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna kill you Chiles, and Child says kill me. Clark
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  Speaker 1: the dog handler, who they all think is the thing.
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  Speaker 1: He has a scalpel that he's been hiding. Yes, he
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  Speaker 1: rushes Mac to kill him, like to stop him from
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  Speaker 1: tying them all up, and Mac turns around and shoots
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  Speaker 1: him directly in the forehead and kills him. So Clark's dead.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a Now we have another dead guy. There
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  Speaker 1: are seven gentlemen left, so that now they're all tied
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  Speaker 1: up and they're performing this test. They test yeah, windows
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  Speaker 1: blood first, as you said, and nothing happens. So he
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  Speaker 1: lets Windows go and it's like, you're gonna be my
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  Speaker 1: backup for the rest of this test. They test Clark's
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  Speaker 1: blood and it passes the test.
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  Speaker 2: There, he's not the thing.
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  Speaker 1: And then Chiles goes, oh, so you're a murderer. Now
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  Speaker 1: that's a good point. You just killed Clark.
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  Speaker 5: It's interesting because he does like him. He does like
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  Speaker 5: windows himself the doc and then does Clark. Child says that,
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  Speaker 5: and then they're all like, this test is bullshit, it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't work.
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  Speaker 2: Child's I don't believe in any of this, Like.
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  Speaker 4: This, this test is not going to do us do anything.
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  Speaker 1: And this is like the misdirection and you have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: So you're very suspicious of Clark, but he was just
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  Speaker 1: killed and then proven innocent. You're very suspicious of Gary.
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  Speaker 1: And like Palmer's just been sort of there, like he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't really done anything bad or good. He's just kind
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  Speaker 1: of like you're you almost forget he's there.
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  Speaker 5: That's the interesting thing. Like in the beginning he is
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  Speaker 5: so vocal, then he's just off. I mean, you don't
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  Speaker 5: notice it. That's the interesting thing.
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  Speaker 1: You forget he's there, and nobody's suspicious of him. So
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  Speaker 1: Gary says, this is nonsense. I didn't do anything with
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  Speaker 1: the blood. And then Max says, I figured you would
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  Speaker 1: say that, Gary, you're the only one that could have
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  Speaker 1: gotten to that blood.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do your test last.
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  Speaker 1: And then as he's saying that He's just like casually
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  Speaker 1: doing Palmer's test. Yes, and when he says that sentence.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as he ends the sentence, Palmer's blood leaps out,
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  Speaker 1: leap screams, and then leaps out into the air. It's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and poor I wrote, Poor Gary. Poor Gary is like
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  Speaker 1: the dog trapped in the kenne was trying to rip
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  Speaker 1: the cage open. So Palmer starts shaking and this tentacle
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  Speaker 1: starts shooting everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: So it's fucking Palmer this whole time, right, I said.
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  Speaker 2: I said, it's a disgusting photo.
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  Speaker 1: I spent a photo of Palmer like melting and turning
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  Speaker 1: into the thing, and I pretending it was my face.
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  Speaker 2: I said, I think I'm the largest guest.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't this The interesting thing that I just said is
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  Speaker 5: the logic that I would have too, that McCreadie has
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  Speaker 5: in it's wrong. You think this thing is going to
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  Speaker 5: attack and kill everybody, and so far, when it has
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  Speaker 5: been anybody, it doesn't attack. It doesn't openly start attacking
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  Speaker 5: you until it is like when the defibrillator happens, it's
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  Speaker 5: because it's.
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  Speaker 4: Being attacked, if you will.
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  Speaker 5: So it's really interesting that it's like it's not provoked,
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  Speaker 5: so it doesn't do anything.
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  Speaker 1: Also, I think it's playing the long game. Was absolutely, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it wants to. It doesn't survive. It's not gonna try
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  Speaker 1: to fight six guys exactly. It wants to slowly turn
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  Speaker 1: into the one by one, whether or not suspecting it.
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  Speaker 2: So Gary and Child are like, get me the fuck
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  Speaker 2: out off.
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  Speaker 4: This being next to him on that couch.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I couldn't even imagine.
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  Speaker 1: It's like if you're in a cab sitting next to
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  Speaker 1: somebody who's puking or something.
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  Speaker 5: Steve Roway pukes in the plane and the guy next
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  Speaker 5: to him just his head completely turns around the other way.
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  Speaker 2: So Windows and Mac both have flamethrowers.
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  Speaker 1: They they Untie childs and Gary and Max like he's
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  Speaker 1: trying to pull the trigger in his flame thrower and
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  Speaker 1: it's not working. It's not working, and they so, so
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  Speaker 1: we realize that Palmer is dead at this point.
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  Speaker 2: So there's six guys left. So we have Palmer because
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  Speaker 2: Windows is flamethrower works.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and yeah, but up until this moment, now the
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  Speaker 1: Palmer is dead. So yeah, we hold on, hold on,
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  Speaker 1: I need to count in my head. So yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: have Windows, Gary mac Child's rawls the cook and Blair
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  Speaker 1: has locked in the cabin. So they go look Windows,
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  Speaker 1: torch him, torchum, and Windows just sort of freezes because
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  Speaker 1: he's overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 2: Like, what the is this is really happening? And then
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  Speaker 2: Windows meets his untimely demise. Why don't you explain that?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 5: So Palmers had just splits in half into into like
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  Speaker 5: a giant set of teeth and mouth and just bites
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  Speaker 5: Palmer's head and he's just hitting Palmer like a dog
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  Speaker 5: with a toy against the ceiling of the room.
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  Speaker 4: He's knocking all the lights, He's throwing him around.
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  Speaker 6: Palmer, I'm sorry, Windows is alive when this is happening,
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  Speaker 6: screaming the entire time. Yeah, and then he just throws
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  Speaker 6: him across the room and I was genuinely shocked his
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  Speaker 6: head is still attachment throw across the room?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then Windows is still in one piece, is like
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  Speaker 1: slumped over in the corner, covered in goo. Yes, And
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  Speaker 1: so they finally torch Palmer, but then Windows is slumped
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  Speaker 1: in the corner starts going like and they're like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: so they torch Windows and they oh so like before
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  Speaker 1: they decide to truly let Gary go because they haven't
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  Speaker 1: done Gary's blood yet.
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  Speaker 2: They do Gary's blood.
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  Speaker 1: And then he says, I know, you, gentlemen, event through
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  Speaker 1: a lot when you find the time, I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: not spend the rest of this winter tied to the
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  Speaker 1: fucking couch. So they realize, okay, there's only five of
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  Speaker 1: us now.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, we need to go check on Blair.
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  Speaker 1: I think four right, because it's Windows is dead, it's Gary,
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  Speaker 1: Gary mac Child's.
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  Speaker 2: Knolls and Blair.
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  Speaker 1: So the helicopter pilot and the mechanic, the commander, the cook,
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  Speaker 1: and the biologist. It sounds like we're playing clue or something.
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  Speaker 1: So they go check on Blair and they make a
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  Speaker 1: very interesting discovery.
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  Speaker 2: What do they discover when they first look through the.
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  Speaker 1: Little people that he is not there, even though he
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  Speaker 1: was barricaded inside.
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  Speaker 5: Barricaded inside. They go in, they look for him, They
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  Speaker 5: find the floorboards are loose. They find that Blair duck
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  Speaker 5: himself out through the ground and a tunnel, a pretty
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  Speaker 5: elaborate tunnel for that.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of built in a short amount of time, in
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  Speaker 2: a very.
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  Speaker 5: Short amount of time. So they go down, I'd blown away.
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  Speaker 5: They went into this tunnel.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, They go like Blair and they're running in
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  Speaker 1: the tunnel like, Nope, I wouldn't be going down the
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  Speaker 1: summer at all.
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  Speaker 5: They go down there and they find that Blair was
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  Speaker 5: building a kind of smaller.
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  Speaker 1: Ship out of the destroyed helicopter parts. Yes, and it
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  Speaker 1: kind of looks like a spaceship exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they decide At this point.
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  Speaker 5: They McCreadie comes to the realization that, like, this thing
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  Speaker 5: is truly in survival mode. It's probably gonna want to
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  Speaker 5: freeze till more people show up to unearth it, essentially
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  Speaker 5: your rescue team or something.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because they blow up. They throw dynamite at
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  Speaker 1: this new spaceship, blow up the tunnel, and then when
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  Speaker 1: that happens, the generator goes off and they go and
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  Speaker 1: Gary says, why way to do that. It's suicide. It
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  Speaker 1: will freeze to death. And then that's when McCreadie says,
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  Speaker 1: it wants to freeze. It realizes it's not getting out
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  Speaker 1: of here, yeah, because we've.
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  Speaker 2: Like sort of made it so difficult for it. So
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  Speaker 2: it's like, if it shuts the generator off, we all
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  Speaker 2: freeze to death. Yea.
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  Speaker 1: Then it'll be frozen too much like it's been frozen
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  Speaker 1: for one hundred thousand years. Eventually some rescue team is
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  Speaker 1: gonna come and take its body and put it in
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  Speaker 1: a memorial fall out and then take over the world.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't it amazing how you're never seeing the thing carry
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  Speaker 5: out any of these tasks or what. All of the
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  Speaker 5: thinking of what the thing is doing is just their
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  Speaker 5: interpretation of its behavior. There is no like scene of
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  Speaker 5: like the thing going to the generator and being like.
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  Speaker 7: Ah, like pulling like like the Memblin's pulling out the electricity,
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  Speaker 7: and there's no that. Yeah, so it's really great how
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  Speaker 7: they make that so that flows so well.
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  Speaker 1: So at this point I'm gonna say we officially know
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  Speaker 1: that Blair is an alien, yes, because they also don't
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  Speaker 1: find Blair. Yes, yeah, yeah, so we're gonna say that
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  Speaker 1: the Blair is dead. So now there is four people left.
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  Speaker 1: Gary mac Childs brawls. Uh Gary, Okay, I'm just taking
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  Speaker 1: notes writting that down.
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  Speaker 2: And they they say that they saw somebody.
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  Speaker 1: I think Max says, I just saw Chiles running away
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  Speaker 1: from the camp, and they're like, why would he be
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  Speaker 1: doing that because they left him inside.
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  Speaker 4: Charles runs away. We then see Gary looking for.
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  Speaker 2: Gary.
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  Speaker 5: Is I feel what he's looking for to get, and
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  Speaker 5: actually we do see Blair again because Blair.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we're not there. We're not there yet, God Ryan,
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  Speaker 2: you know what.
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  Speaker 1: So at this point I like that how Mac tells
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  Speaker 1: them all. He goes, listen, we're not gonna here out.
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna get out of here a lot. We're
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  Speaker 1: all we're all dead, but neither is that thing. We
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  Speaker 1: need to make it warm. We can't let it just
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  Speaker 1: freeze freeze out, So let's just burn down everything.
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  Speaker 5: Which is kind of positive weirdly enough in what way,
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  Speaker 5: like we should do this to save the earth from
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  Speaker 5: this thing. It's not like, fuck it, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, there's no point of this, you know. So they
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  Speaker 1: go into they start lighting the buildings on fire, and
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  Speaker 1: they go into the generator room because they're gonna set
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  Speaker 1: off explosives and not only light everything on fire, but
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  Speaker 1: blow everything up exactly just to make sure that they
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  Speaker 1: could possibly kill it in the explosion. And that's when
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  Speaker 1: explain when Blair.
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  Speaker 5: Comes up, I jump the gun here. When they're going
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  Speaker 5: it's out the explosions. Gary, the guy whoever was suspecting
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  Speaker 5: the whole time and hated the whole time, is walking
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  Speaker 5: around and this is actually, this is the only time
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  Speaker 5: you do see the thing be somewhat proactive on something.
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  Speaker 5: He just grabs Blair, just grabs Guary by the face,
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  Speaker 5: and his fingers just meld into Gary's cheeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just go into his face.
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  Speaker 4: It's like it's just molding together.
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  Speaker 2: And Gary's just like, well, yeah, and you're.
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  Speaker 4: Just stopping him, like it's copying.
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  Speaker 1: So Gary's so Child's is missing, so we're gonna consider
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  Speaker 1: him still alive. Mac is alive and Ralls is alive.
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  Speaker 2: Gary's deads there are three guys left dead of the twelve,
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  Speaker 2: three guys left exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And so they're setting up there's like an old school
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  Speaker 1: Looney Tunes detonator box love it and Mac is setting
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  Speaker 1: that up and he's like, Rawl's Gary, how's it going
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  Speaker 1: over there? And you see Rawls sort of turning the corner,
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  Speaker 1: sort of looking for Gary. Yes, And then I love
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  Speaker 1: that Rawls disappears.
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  Speaker 2: And they never explained I love that you've never seen
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  Speaker 2: him again.
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  Speaker 1: You never see him again. They don't explain why or
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  Speaker 1: what happened to him.
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  Speaker 5: I wonder if that was just a sheercase of like
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  Speaker 5: movie editing of just like, hey, who cares, We'll just
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  Speaker 5: let the audience assume a thing got him or are
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  Speaker 5: they truly intentionally being Like, some things you're just never
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  Speaker 5: gonna know.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm always curious about with I like when
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  Speaker 2: I like when movies do that, because that's how life is.
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  Speaker 2: Some things you just will never know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that, and I like things it's sort
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  Speaker 1: of audiences stereotypically like human nature is. You don't want that,
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  Speaker 1: so when it kind of challenges you in that way
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  Speaker 1: and it bothers you, I like that, and.
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  Speaker 2: I love how it's keeping again.
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  Speaker 5: The movie does such a great job of always keeping
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  Speaker 5: you obviously in suspense and also guessing what it is
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  Speaker 5: doing here. But at that point your assumption is always
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  Speaker 5: going to be, oh, they're just being got by the thing,
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  Speaker 5: So you're better off just never showing what happens to
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  Speaker 5: have no clue.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
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  Speaker 1: And so we're gonna say that Rawles is dead because
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  Speaker 1: we've literally never seen it. So now there's only Child's
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  Speaker 1: is missing and Mac is still alive. Two guys left,
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  Speaker 1: and this point the thing is like, all right, I
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  Speaker 1: don't need to hide anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It's me. It's me, So it kinda turns into this
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  Speaker 2: like giant, enormous dog monster.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like part it's all it's blair about half
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  Speaker 5: mouth head. First of all, like again like it just
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  Speaker 5: like seems to like throw its tentacle like twenty five
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  Speaker 5: feet that like throws up all of the floor and
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  Speaker 5: knocks McReady over and then like it emerges as this
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  Speaker 5: gigantic and then I was curious, like why they go
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  Speaker 5: back to the dog, Like why they show the dog again,
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  Speaker 5: because like the whole point is that it's copying people
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  Speaker 5: and trying to be a full copy machine, if you will. So,
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  Speaker 5: like I also I thought it was really interesting that
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  Speaker 5: like is it meant to show you kind of like
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  Speaker 5: I have I have been everything.
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  Speaker 4: Here, Yeah I have one of everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I think so. Yeah, I think though too.
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  Speaker 4: It's just it just again also is disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: And also like it started with the dog, it's ending
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: with the dog.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's a great point. That's a great point.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And it eats the detonator and sort of just lets
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: out this incredible like roar, horrible noise at Mac and
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: then Mac responds, yeah, well fuck you too, love the copper.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: He this shit, it's so great, so great.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: That's sure, yeah, and then everything just blows up.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Everything blows up again. Even though there's been a lot
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: of obviously great practical effects, they're blown like burning a
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: real set at night, like insane.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: You never do.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: No, but this never happened, now or the studio at
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: CGI over it if it actually did.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Which is probably safe because I'm sure a lot of
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: horrible things could happen with this.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, and that's the Yeah, a lot of dangerous
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: things can happen like CGI. I'm sure has saved lives,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: but yeah, man, it makes for worse movies sometimes.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Very true, very true. It's worth the death of many
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: people entertainment. Yeah, exactly.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: The Gladiators did it for the Romans and they had
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to die.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: So at this point Mac thinks he blew everything up,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: like killed the thing he's walking through. The snow camp
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: is on fire. Yeah, it's like negative one hundred. So
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Mac knows, all right, I'm gonna die.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: You know. The fire is gonna keep me warm for
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: a little bit, but I'm gonna die. So he just
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: sort of.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Sits down just to wait it out. And then Child's appears.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: So there's still two guys left and Child's are I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: can't remember which one of them says, Yeah, the fire
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: warmed up the camp, but not for long, and Max
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: is sort of sitting there. He's very physically and emotionally depleted,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and he's kind of just they're kind of staring at
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: each other. They're kind of both thinking like is the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: other person the thing left?
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: It's just the two of them, and Child says, hey,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: if you're if you're worried about me, and then Mac responds,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: if either of us have any surprises for each other,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: there's not much we can do about it now. Yeah,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Like they're in the middle of the fucking snow and
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: everything's on fire. They're both gonna die, so one of
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: us is the thing. It doesn't really even matter, and
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Child says, so what do we do now?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: And Max's response, why.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Don't we just wait here for a little while see
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: what happens?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: And then the movie ends just even.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: More of a fuck you is They just do a
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: wide shot of just darkness in the fire and you're like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: there's nothing. It just like ends with like the camp
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: on fire, you see nothing.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: But one of one of the best endings for a movie.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Ever was was this on our best endings?
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: No? It was not.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: It was not we didn't think, we didn't think of
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: it just such a fuck you ending.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: But it's also like when you really was reading about
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: the Wikipedia, like reading about reading about the Wikipedia, Wow,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: reading the Wikipedia.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: About the endings. They talked a lot about how.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Originally apparently no one liked this ending, including like the
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: creative team, and they just felt it was just the
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: way it should end, like not like in a good
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: of bad, like this just makes sense for the story.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: We told yeah, even though we don't like it, yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and not satisfying.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: They wanted to do a more cold ending too, kind
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: of like I think it was gonna be Child's didn't
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: come back, and it was just kind of mccreedy walking
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: out and like I think he like walked out into
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: the snow in the in the in the sky, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: then you saw like you never knew what happened. And
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: then there was another one. I guess the studio was like,
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: can you do something more positive? So they either wrote
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: or shot an ending where the rescue team does come.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I didn't know what the rescue team's time period was,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: but does come and they test he makes them test
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: his blood to do that, and then apparently it's gonna
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: be a thing. Like they tested, He's okay, he can
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: go home. Then they tested these endings and people thought
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: like all three or both whatever they were, were not
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: good because I just don't know how you suddenly turn
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: into a positive ending. And they originally were going to
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: go with the ending of just mccreeedy walking off by himself,
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: and then Carpenter last minute was like, we should do
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: the ending with the two of them talking, because that's
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: been the whole point of this movie has been like
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: who can you trust anymore? Not even who do you trust?
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: And it's the reason this movie is great.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: A fact I had a point to make, but a factoid.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to mention that the the English Bass
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: British base in Antarctica, they watch this movie every winter.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Which I love. Perfect. But we've been talking about obviously,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: you know, we haven't.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Really talked about Kurt Russell. But kur Russell's great. Ye,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: everybody loves Kurt Russell. But Child is played by Keith David, amazing,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and we haven't talked about him. Fucking loved Keith David.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Keith David follows up with a comes back to Carpety
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: where they live love Keith David.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: He's been in.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Reccoon for a dream, He's been a voice actor and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: many things.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, Yeah he was incredible. They had him
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: on Community for a season voice seas. Yeah, he was
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: a guest like teacher or guest student. Yeah, I mean
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: gargoyles spawn so very famous, dude, something about Mary, Yes, very.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Tell you about Mary Dead, Presidents, Armageddon, Pitch Black, I
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: forgot my god, Barbershop, Crash, Chronicles of rit Cloud Atlas
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: n nice guy's Nope.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: That's right, he's a Nope, that's right. He's their father.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Pitch Black. I would love to do a pitch Black
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: that bring one.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And then his voice acting is yeah, you said. Gargoyle
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: spawned Ken Burns narrator for Ken Burns Doctor Trees Perfect.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: He's the president and Rick and Morty.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Oh you know what's funny.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: He narrates the the the pillow fined episode of Community
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: where it's all done through pictures there's no actual episode.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: In this is this his first movie? Am I rung
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: by saying that is that true?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Let me look, let me look it up.
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: His filmography his second he well, first movie he plays
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: club Patron in a movie before this Patron, so it's
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: this is his first movie.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Goddamn, what a what a pick?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he he had broke brad that he broke
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: his hand.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Did you hear this? He broke his.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Hand before the filming of the movie, so he had
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to wear a glove that was painted to match his
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: skin color. But Carpenter thought it looked like shit and
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it was very obvious. So if you watch the movie,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I never noticed this until hearing this. If you watch
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the movie, his I believe this is his left hand
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: is never shown in the first half.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Interesting, And there's a.
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: Scene where I think it's Palmer smoking weed and he
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: reaches he's he's laying on a bed, Child's laying on
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: a bed and he reaches over and grabs the blunt
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: with his right hand and his left hand is draped over.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: The other side of the bed. You can't see it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Interesting watching the game show on tape yep.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: But Keith David is incredible And I love that it
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: comes down to Childs and Mac.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: The two biggest personalities. We should also say too, like
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: this is a crazy thing about this too. This is
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: literally back to back. Kurt Russell from Escape from New
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: York in the Thing the Year apart eighty one eight
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: two nice, insane fucking nuts.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Gott gotta love Kurt Russell.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Dude, you know what the I think the craziest thing
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: is I always thinking about this. I was like, it's
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: odd the timing of these movies being back to back,
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: and so this movie that people know, like eighty two
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: is a very famous movie year.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: That was the year of like a lot of very
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: famous like what.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: You have et So, actually, I.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Was gonna say this, this movie comes out June twenty fifth,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: probably a bad time my opinion, to do snow desperate horror.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: This is very odd.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: This is June in nineteen eighty two, coming out in
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: theaters June fourth, Poltergeist and Star Trek two the same
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: weekend June eleventh, et and et Is and a Nuke
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: is huge. Yes, it fucking destroys everything that June twenty fifth,
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: Blade Runner in the Thing on the same day.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: What fuck? How fucking bananas is bad?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: It's the same day, same fucking day, and you weren't
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: alive for it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: No, that sucks.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: It's the best day of your life. We get everything
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: we want. I didn't leave the theater that day. I
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: just went back and forth, back and forth. I said it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Before, I like, I prefer twenty forty nine. I like
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Blade Runner. I've never been like a in depth fan
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: of it, but like the fact that these.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Two just because of joy that's why you like better.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Exactly, yeah exactly, But like et was so huge, but
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: this year is like the road Warrior.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: It is I think I saw that somewhere.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: I thought I didn't notes for it. Yeah, it is literally,
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: ok okay, right, insane, ready for this. It's literally Road Warrior.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Halloween three, Friday the Thirteenth, Part three, Rocky three, Creep Show,
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Cuff's Basement, Classic, Plague, Dogs, cat People, Trony People, Conan
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: the Barbarian, Secretive, Nim King of Comedy, Summer Party, mastac Are,
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Fast Times at Ridgemont High for Blood. I did not
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: think that was in the eighties. Well, wow, in the
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: dark Crystal, that's all in one fucking year. Did you
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: think it was seventy nine First Blood?
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I did too.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I thought it was always late seventies.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: I thought it was always always but to come out
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: that time. I was thinking Spielberg and Carpenter both Spielberg
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: is raised, lost Dark In eighty one and Coppenter's Escape
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: from New York. Both of them are like action movies
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: with an action hero that they go on to make
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: sequels with. They both the next year do an alien
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: visits Earth, with two very different results.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Very different, one more positive than the other. I mean yeah,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I mean ET does leave. It's pretty sad.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: ET was at the time like one of the most
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: profitable movies ever made.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: It was the highest grossing movie of all time until
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: nineteen ninety three when Jurassic Park came out.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Wow, talk about having a belt for a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Insane and I think it was beaten by Titan that
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: was it. Yeah, it's pretty it's just so strange.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just start playing.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about it before we go and
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: do advice. The analysis of the ending, there's nothing that
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: is set in stone.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: It's sort of like the Sopranos ending.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: You can have a really really strong opinion. Actually, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: think David Chase said Tony dies. Of anybody who doesn't
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: think Tony dies is because they really didn't want him to.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Which is which is also interesting, right.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: It is very interesting.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: But that's one of my biggest pepeeves about people is
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: like when they won't admit the truth.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: About something as they like it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: And everyone's guilty of that, including me. But it just
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: really bothers me when people do that. So talking about
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the Sopranos ending just infuriates me when I'm just like,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you just thought.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Twenty was cool and you wanted him to live. David
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Chase says, he dies. But anyways, Yeah, what were you
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: gonna say?
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: I think that thing we talked about it before, it
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: would be much more accepted now that it was then.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, because we weren't used to that.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: But I deep dove YouTube videos analyzing the ending.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Did you do that?
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: I did not, But I looked for one thing that
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: always has been pointed out to me, which is what
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: the earring.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: On child's oh is on the wrong ear?
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: No So in the pre in The Thing twenty eleven,
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: the prequel, yes we so.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Way, we just talked about calling.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Things the same name and it being confusing.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Is it called the thing?
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: It's called the thing?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: No way?
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: They Annie w notices that when it copies a guy
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: had a knee replacement in a metal kneecap. When he's copied,
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: it's not metal anymore. It can only copy organic material.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: That was based on a theory that people thought in
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: the thing that it can only organically copy you. Hence
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: why Bennings when he is being copied they show him
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: with no shirt on. It's creating a new version of
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: him with no clothes on. Yes, child has an ear ring,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: so in the shot when they're outside talking, Childs turns
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: his head and you see the reflection of an earring.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: So people think it is not the thing because he
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: has that.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Child is really a person.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, that's very interesting, And I've heard I saw
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: so many theories. One was like and I think this
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: is maybe tinfoil hat like going too far.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with this.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: But if you're there's like a like a light in
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: people's eyes, like a light reflection off of like I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: can look in your eyes right now and I can
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: see the reflection of a light. And when you don't
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: see that, that means they're the thing. That was one
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: theory and you don't see that at the end of
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the movie with Child's I don't I don't really believe
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: that one the thing that I thought held the most water. Two,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Childs is the thing is when they show that, they
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: juxtapose these two shots because it doesn't replicate your clothes,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: because as.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: You just said, I can only replicated organic matter.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: There's there's a shot when they tell Child's like, we're
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: gonna go go talk to Blair.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: You wait here. Child's is waiting looking out the window.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: And in that shot, Child's is wearing a navy blue coat,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and then there are three coats on the coat hooks
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: next to him, and one of them is navy blue,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: and then the.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Other two were like tan.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Then when they cut back to when they come back
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: and Child's is missing, the door is open and snow
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: is blowing in, and the navy blue coat.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Was on the that was on the hook is missing.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: So the theory is it attacked Child's destroyed his navy
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: blue coat, and then the thing child saw another navy
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: blue coat on the hook and was like, oh great,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: then they're not going to be able to tell you
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And also there's also a theory
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that he's not even wearing a navy blue coat, that
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: he's wearing one of the tan coats. But I think
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: it's just you can't really tell because it's nighttime. The
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: reflection of the fire. He's covered in snow. You can't
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: really tell what color it is. That's true, but there's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: there's a lot. It also just doesn't make sense to
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: me that why did he run outside? Why did he disappear?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Where was he the whole time?
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: But almost like similar with Knoles though, it's like is
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: it better to just now be like, because you're at
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: this heightened state of you, you can't trust anyone. Everyone's
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: action is suspicious. Now, Yeah, why is McCready, Like we
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: just pointed out, like throughout this movie you're watching, you
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: notice that the thing plays its cards very close to
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: its chest. Yeah, it doesn't strike unless it has to.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Why is mccredy at the end like so calm, cool, collected.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: Sure it can be he's resolute to be defeated, but
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: maybe he's also just like, well, this is the last
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: guy I get.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Rid of, and I'm good, so I might as well act.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Okay, that sounds insane, but that's the whole point, right,
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: is that you are not believing anything they're doing.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well if it was, if one of them was
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the thing, why wouldn't it just kill them kill the
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: other one?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know, But.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Another theory I read is is McCready, is it a
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: all of janb are a bottle of vodka that he.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Is at the end?
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, if jan B's the beginning, that's when he pours
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: in the chest machine.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: He gives Blair vodka.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: He gives Blair smart enough, so it must be Jan
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: D's I guess.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: So he is a bottle of liquor. Mccreedy.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: When he's like sitting there waiting to die, and child
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: shows up and they're like, let's just wait it out.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: McCready hands Child's the bottle of liquor, and Child's drinks
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it and McCready laughs to himself when Child's does that.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Now you could just yes, you could just be like
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: he's laughing at the situation that this is funny, that
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: they're just like getting drunk and sitting in the snow
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: waiting to die. But the theory is they had discussed
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: if one of us is the thing, like it could
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: be the thing. We can't share drinks, we can't share food.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: We got to eat out of our own cans, with
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: our own utensils. So he's like, if childs think of
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: possibly the thing, why is he drinking out of my bottle?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: And then he laughs to himself because he realized, oh,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Child's is the thing. But then again, the devil's advocate
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: of that would be, well, if Child's was child's and.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Not the thing, wow, would he fucking care?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: At this point he's gonna die, you might as well
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: take a drink.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: You've So that reminded me of the other theory about
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: the whole gasoline theory that was the thing too. So
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: like McCready throws at when he loses to the chess game,
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: he throws, he pours his J and B into the computer.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Mmm, and we say cheating, motherfucker.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And they show McCready is always like kicking over
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: the gas cans when they're gonna kill Bennings or whatnot.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: They're gonna burn Bennings and mccreay's using the flamethrower. So
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: the theory always was that people think McCready because I
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: don't think you see mccreedy drink out of the bottle, right,
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: I don't remember.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I thought you did, but I don't.
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Remember my memory too. But like you just watch it today,
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: I don't think you see him do it. The fan
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: theory always was that McCready poured gasoline into the J
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: and B glass and handed to child, see how he
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: reacts taking and taking a sip of it, and see
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: how we react again.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: And that's why laughs, this is why it's again.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Hair bring theory. Yeah, but the whole thing is, that's
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: what's kind of great about the movie is, like.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: They said, we're discussing the ending.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Everyone has like there can be multiple reasons for their
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: reaction and you don't know what And that's the best
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: way to do this, because that's the whole point of
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: the movie is is obviously the end of the movie
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: is the thing, but the suspicion around it is just
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: as much they're undoing as is the thing itself.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and two idiots are recording a conversation about this
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: forty four years later.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I mean it works.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: I mean it's interesting because, like we said, I came
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: about the same day as Blade Runner, and Blade Runner
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: has a very famous ending. It's the same thing people
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: questioned to the day, was Decord a replicant? Yeah, the
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: movie it's kind of a similar, And that's argued constantly
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: and then really Scott's been like, yeah he was, and
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: like John Carpenter was on Stephen Colbert Late Night, like
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: a few years back because he was doing some TV
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: show and he was on it, and Colbert is like
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: a huge nerds.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: He's like, I have a theory about how the thing.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: Ends, and Carpenter rolls his eyes like every fucking idiot
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Like Ryan approaches me and asks me to sign his
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: action figures and to telling me the theory and the
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: ending of the thing.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: But Carpenter's forget Carpenter's oither.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: He goes, I'll just here's where I tell everybody, whatever
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: your theory is, it's right, and what your theory is
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: is exactly what I meant to do.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: The way that is so funny.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I wanted to mention.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, first of all, I said, if it was Jurassic
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: World rebirth, that all the guys would come.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Out and say we're okay. All twelve of them would
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: come out, We're.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Back, and they'd have a montage of how how that
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: was not them, like Palmer was a hologram turned into
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: the thing, not that what.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Are we gonna do with this science? We discovered We're
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: gonna cure cancer? And then the credits roll.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Well, so the thing too is that a company finds
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: out about the thing and they want to use it
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: as a military weapon and they try to train it
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: and then they have a Grady who can is the
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: only person who can train the things, and.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: The thing is like kind of befriends zem but kind
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: of not.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Also how like lawful with the fun like the thing,
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: like because the thing especially like you know, it's funny
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: watching it this time made me think of it more.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: In gen would be like let's put the thing in
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: the zoom.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, let it free.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: We're good, free thing.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: But like when the when the when it's the dogs
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: at first when they shoot it, and I guess that's
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: probat of the first hint of it becoming like he
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: tries to survive at all times when they shoot it,
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: and then when the when the thing creature realizes like
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: I am dying because they're shooting.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: Me, that like weird like tentacle with like a mouth
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: and teeth come out and try to jump at one
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: of them.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: It's like the first hint of like whatever. So all
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: like in picture is like Grady trying to like tang
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: in the thing and like these thousands of variations have
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: just disgusting things are coming at him.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Oh so gross, But we should just really really briefly
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: touch on the terrible prequel. So the prequel, which is
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a great concept, is the it's about the Norwegian team.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: That's what you should do.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: If there, let's tell the story of the Norwegian team
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: and what happened. Yeah, and it's starring it's some really
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: good actors mew And then who's the guy Joel?
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that's right kind of who made that movie?
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: And it was just it was just bad.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: It was everything that's not good that sorry, everything that
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: is good about the thing, but the opposite of it.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: And also like could you unless you did?
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Like not so much like the severity of like Ariostra,
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: but like this movie's tone is truly unique to it. Yes,
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: and I mean Carpenter has always been a nihilist, but
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: like this one is really like I mean a lot
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: of like I mean snake Plisking literally shuts the earth
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: down and escape from la but like he has some
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: pretty like dark endings, but like this one, the tone is.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Just like they are stuck in Antarctica.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Humans can literally not survive here on their own unless
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: they live in these quarters. So it's like there's just
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: no surviving even if you can. I guess the best
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: way to put it is that, and it's just so down.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: I just don't know how you could do it differently
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: or do it effectively and have that same ending.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: But then again, I don't know.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: This is like the only movie he ever directed. Really.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his name is Matthias van henyingin Junior. Okay, yeah,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Joel Edgerton, Lrag Thompson. Oh, mister echo, is that mister echo?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Really, yep, but it is.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: It was a box office bomb. One thing I hated
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: is because this movie, I know it's about an alien
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and I know it opens with a shot of spaceship,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: although we're pretending that never happened, but it's a very
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: like ground in reality very much, and they spend a
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: lot of time like on the huge spaceship in the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: prequel movie US Do.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: And I hated that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Well, I think.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: Because I would get I would just say I would think,
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: I get why because they made it a point to
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: excavate it where like and find it. That's the wrong
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: word to put it, but like so I'm not shocked
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: that like they would spend time on it. But again,
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: it's like it's kind of like similar to when we
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: did the Alien series, Like when you start revealing what
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: these things are about, it loses something like the mystery
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: of it is so much better than the explanation you'll
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: have for it. Or sometimes the simple explanation is just
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: the best one.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so I was I was.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Trying to remember what happens to Mary Elizabeth Winstead in
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: this movie. And she gets away even though her character
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: is not in so.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Like retcon her to like get away from it.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then these other guys arrive and like Chase
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the Door.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Did you not watch because the the blu Ray I
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: have the beginning they're actually not shooting at the dog.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: They're shooting at her first, and then they shoot they
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: go off to dinner.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: So does that I can't I can't remember. But the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: prequel literally ends with them like arriving.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: At the American Base.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: I think, I think so right?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, anyways, great idea.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: If they're ever going to do a sequel or prequel
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: to this movie, that's what it should be. ACTU.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: I think, like what I mean, Slither is kind of
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: a sequel to this in the weird way. It's kind
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: of similar thing. Yeah, I love Slyther James Gun. Yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: they do such a they such a great, great, I
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: don't maybe they just should. I mean, is it kind
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: of like a Jaws or even a Jurassic Park thing?
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Like do you rip the band aid off of this?
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: And this situation where you exposed the creature was so good?
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Could you do both again?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Like, could you have if you did the thing creature,
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: it would look amazing, would be incredible to see. But
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: if the circumstances the thing creature is and is not interesting,
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: it's not worth it. And it's just like be a
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: similar idea. The thing advice, the thing advice, don't trust anyone,
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: So Boston.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Don't trust anyone, you stupid piece of trash.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I heartbreaking. He's saying, Mike probably loved it.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: The thing advice, I would say, I would say.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Wait and see, wait and see. Yeah, that's that's good advice.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I would say. I would say, if you have a
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: if you find a.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Stray dog, kill it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, anything else you wanted to say? Shout out
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: a couple of shout outs on this.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the writer Bill Lancaster wrote two movies, The Thing
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: and The Bad News Bears.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Shout out to him. And he's Burt Lancaster's son.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Extra shout out, yeah great.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: I should say he also wrote the Big the Bad
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: News Bears sequel to.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: But they go to Japan or I think is that
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: the one? Is that the one they go?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Or they go America to go to Japan? Okay?
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And then also he wrote he created the Big Bang theory.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Really yep, I did not know that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Wow, he didn't.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Also another interesting kind of the whole tibot about this
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: movie is the poster. Very famous poster, yes, done by
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: Drew sterus In who did Back to.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: The Future great poster. Phenomenal poster. It's like a person
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: with like a light coming out of their face.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: It's like wearing like the snow jacket.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: When the movie was being made or being like was
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: going to be released, they didn't know what to do
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: for the poster. How hilarious would be if like he
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: went to like a theater, like if a family went
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: to a theater and the poster was just like a
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: dog mix, It's like, oh.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: My god, it was Palmer's head exploding see it Friday.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: But like so he they were like they called drewsters
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: and who is the artist, and they were like, we
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: need this poster like in two days and they're like,
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: we're gonna describe to you the movie over the phone.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: We're not.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: Gonnay, he saw nothing of it whatever. It's actually on
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: a documentary about him. So he did that one poster
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: overnight and it's fucking one of the most famous posters
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: of all time.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Epic poster.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, incredible one.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say my advice would be this is
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: just see this. This is this is on streaming HBO.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: No, it was on no you know where I watched it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: It was on YouTube because I had on YouTube. I
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: had subscribed to Shugar because I needed to watch.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Gremlins too nice.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: And then I went and I just googled, like where
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: is the thing?
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: And it was on shutter. I was like, oh shit,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: that's great. I can watch it on YouTube.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: I did not because I thought because it's universal. I
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: thought Pea Clock just owned everything universal.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: It gets really complicated though sometimes it's very true. It's
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: very true.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they can't The ownership in Front of the Thirteenth
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: is so complicated they can't even make a fucking movie.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: But then it's weird though, and again it is just
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: like everything like night ren Elm Street is now owned
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: by the Craven Estate. Their rights went back to them.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: Nothing completely silent, like no nothing coming out, nothing like
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: rights are in somebody's hands. Someone can make something great
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: with this. No words, nothing so.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Strange to me.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean anything else.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Just it can make that noise.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: That'd be great.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: What's your advice?
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Well, right now the podcast is over. What do we do?
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I guess we can just sit here and wait, see
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: what happens.