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- 0:00Speaker 1: There's the importance of having credit at a young age.
- 0:02Speaker 1: Like you said, one of those factors is the credit
- 0:05Speaker 1: is right. And so if we're getting credit at twenty
- 0:08Speaker 1: twenty three years old, we've missed some years that we
- 0:10Speaker 1: actually could have. So talk about the importance of establishing
- 0:13Speaker 1: credit at a younger age, maybe talk about authorized users
- 0:16Speaker 1: and things like that.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Absolutely, So for the parents out there, I recommend every
- 0:21Speaker 3: parent if you can, if you have a credit card
- 0:24Speaker 3: that you know you're not going to pay later or whatever,
- 0:26Speaker 3: with good history, I recommend to add your child at
- 0:30Speaker 3: no later than seventeen. Now, if your child is eighteen,
- 0:33Speaker 3: obviously you can add them, but adding your child from
- 0:36Speaker 3: the ages of sixteen through seventeen will set them up
- 0:40Speaker 3: for when they turn eighteen, they'll already have an established
- 0:43Speaker 3: credit profile. Most people don't realize that you do not
- 0:46Speaker 3: have a FYCO score just because you turned eighteen. You
- 0:49Speaker 3: have to have six months of credit history with at
- 0:51Speaker 3: least two accounts before FICO will issue you a credit score. Right,
- 0:56Speaker 3: So as opposed to just starting at eighteen and building
- 0:59Speaker 3: your own credit. If if you have a parent, a
- 1:01Speaker 3: responsible parent, that will put you on their credit card
- 1:04Speaker 3: prior at least six months prior to your eighteenth birthday,
- 1:07Speaker 3: you'll already start off, you know, a little ahead of
- 1:09Speaker 3: the pack, right. So, as opposed to getting those entry
- 1:11Speaker 3: level credit cards, sometimes you can get quality offers because
- 1:15Speaker 3: it's really easy to get a seven hundred credit score,
- 1:17Speaker 3: especially if you have no collections or you haven't messed
- 1:19Speaker 3: up your credit yet. It is super easy to get
- 1:21Speaker 3: seven hundred. So adding, if you have the opportunity to
- 1:26Speaker 3: be an authorized user on a family member's card, and
- 1:30Speaker 3: if you share an address with them, it's better because
- 1:32Speaker 3: nowadays the anti abuse laws effects out effects trade lines
- 1:37Speaker 3: authorized users, and so if you have the same address
- 1:40Speaker 3: or the same last name, you'll be more credited for
- 1:42Speaker 3: those accounts, right or for the yeah, for the authorized
- 1:45Speaker 3: user accounts setting once you turn eighteen though, because this
- 1:49Speaker 3: is the mistake a lot of parents make, they'll put
- 1:52Speaker 3: their child on their credit card at like fifteen, sixteen, whatever,
- 1:55Speaker 3: and then whenever they turn eighteen, the child will have
- 1:57Speaker 3: like a seven hundred credit score.
- 1:59Speaker 2: And as opposed to making.
- 2:02Speaker 3: The child or having the child apply for their own accounts,
- 2:05Speaker 3: they just kind of lean on lian on mom's card
- 2:09Speaker 3: or mom's credit history and think that it's going to
- 2:12Speaker 3: take them far.
- 2:13Speaker 2: And that's where they run.
- 2:14Speaker 3: Into the situation of having a high credit score but
- 2:16Speaker 3: not a lot of credit, not a worthy credit credit
- 2:19Speaker 3: borrow wing. Right, So you need to make sure that
- 2:23Speaker 3: when that child turns, it turns eighteen. Like on my
- 2:26Speaker 3: children on their eighteenth birthday, we're going to be applying
- 2:28Speaker 3: for a credit card on their eighteen birthday because the earlier,
- 2:31Speaker 3: the earlier, the better. Apply for a credit card. Please
- 2:35Speaker 3: apply for a credit card before a student loan. That's
- 2:37Speaker 3: just like a side note, that's one of the things
- 2:40Speaker 3: that's one of the mistakes that I wish that I
- 2:42Speaker 3: can catch with a lot of people. Having a credit
- 2:45Speaker 3: card be your first established account, your credit age is
- 2:48Speaker 3: going to be reliant on that account.
- 2:51Speaker 2: The great thing about credit cards is they can be
- 2:52Speaker 2: open forever.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Like there is no end date to a credit card
- 2:56Speaker 3: unless you choose to close the card or the bank
- 2:58Speaker 3: chooses to close the card. Whereas a loan, every loan
- 3:01Speaker 3: has a term date. Every loan will end eventually. So
- 3:05Speaker 3: when your credit age is based on a loan, once
- 3:08Speaker 3: that once that account closes, yeah, your credit is going
- 3:12Speaker 3: to be affected drastically. Right. So if you have your
- 3:14Speaker 3: first established account as a credit card. That's sort of
- 3:16Speaker 3: like a safety blanket for your credit age. And so
- 3:20Speaker 3: make sure at eighteen apply for a card. It can
- 3:22Speaker 3: be it can be a secure card, it can be
- 3:24Speaker 3: a subprime card. Whatever. Apply for a credit card and
- 3:27Speaker 3: then start to build your own credit history because authorized
- 3:30Speaker 3: users can only take you so far, and not very far.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Nowadays, it's a quick fill up.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Because you did bring up closing cards, and I know
- 3:36Speaker 1: a lot of people as they're trying to fix their
- 3:37Speaker 1: credit like, all right, well I pick it off, let
- 3:39Speaker 1: me close it. Talk about how that could negatively affect.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Yeah, it could.
- 3:46Speaker 3: My rule of thumb when it comes to closing credit
- 3:48Speaker 3: cards is if you have if the credit card has
- 3:50Speaker 3: an annual fee and you're not getting any increases and
- 3:54Speaker 3: the it's just not worth it to keep it. There
- 3:57Speaker 3: will be there will come a time where you'll probably
- 3:59Speaker 3: want to owse that card. When you close that card
- 4:02Speaker 3: is super important.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Number one.
- 4:03Speaker 3: If you are applying for anything, any large purchase like
- 4:07Speaker 3: a car or home within the next six months, it's
- 4:09Speaker 3: not the time to close that card.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Close it. After you get your car, your home, whatever.
- 4:14Speaker 3: The only time I would suggest you closing the credit
- 4:16Speaker 3: card is if you if you know, like I said,
- 4:18Speaker 3: six months free of any applications, and also make sure
- 4:22Speaker 3: that you have another card before you close that card,
- 4:26Speaker 3: like do not like I see people all the time
- 4:28Speaker 3: like I just hate this card, I want to close it,
- 4:30Speaker 3: et cetera. And it's just like that's going to do
- 4:32Speaker 3: more harm than good. I have a two hundred dollars
- 4:34Speaker 3: Capital one card that I've had since college. That card
- 4:37Speaker 3: is still open. I haven't gotten an increase in years.
- 4:39Speaker 3: I don't even care to use the card. I keep
- 4:41Speaker 3: it open.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Specifically because credit age.
- 4:44Speaker 3: An aged credit card is the most beneficial thing that
- 4:47Speaker 3: you can have on your credit report, that like the
- 4:50Speaker 3: most and it's one of those things that's like the
- 4:52Speaker 3: gift that never never stops giving. Because every single three
- 4:55Speaker 3: to six months that a car ages, it's going to
- 4:58Speaker 3: add more to your credit ad and also your FICO points.
- 5:01Speaker 3: So keep that in mind. So don't close a card
- 5:04Speaker 3: unless you have to. If you if you have a
- 5:07Speaker 3: card that you don't use, put a subscription on it.
- 5:09Speaker 3: I have Netflix, like use one, use pick one of
- 5:13Speaker 3: your subscriptions that you probably have coming out of your
- 5:15Speaker 3: bank account. Assign those to each of you know, each
- 5:18Speaker 3: of your credit cards so that it can have usage,
- 5:20Speaker 3: so the bank will not close it due to non usage.
- 5:24Speaker 2: So what about putting your child on the credit card? Yes,
- 5:27Speaker 2: as a child, Yeah, for I.
- 5:29Speaker 3: So one of the things that people think that makes
- 5:33Speaker 3: some difference is if they add their child at like
- 5:34Speaker 3: twelve or thirteen. That doesn't make it regardless if you
- 5:38Speaker 3: add your child at twelve or if you add them
- 5:39Speaker 3: at seventeen, it will not make a difference in terms
- 5:42Speaker 3: of the effect that it will have on their credit reports.
- 5:45Speaker 2: That's a misconception.
- 5:46Speaker 3: However, me personally, I would suggest, like I said, adding
- 5:50Speaker 3: your child at like seventeen when you when someone asks
- 5:53Speaker 3: their child at thirteen, to me, it just that's a
- 5:55Speaker 3: that's that's what seven years, seven eight years until they
- 5:59Speaker 3: turn eight eighteen, and that's a lot of room. It
- 6:02Speaker 3: leaves a lot of room open for a mistake. What
- 6:03Speaker 3: happens if you get a lay payment on that card
- 6:05Speaker 3: and now your child's credit will be affected before they
- 6:08Speaker 3: can even establish credit. So we never know what can happen, right,
- 6:12Speaker 3: So I just for I just recommend, like I'll personally,
- 6:16Speaker 3: I'm adding my children at when day turn seventeen. As
- 6:19Speaker 3: long as you have six months before they turn eighteen,
- 6:21Speaker 3: they're fine.
- 6:22Speaker 1: I was a beneficiary of that, so I was added
- 6:26Speaker 1: to my mom's I told the story before, but I
- 6:28Speaker 1: was added to my mom's American Express card at six seventeen.
- 6:32Speaker 1: And so now even when I get the cards, it'll
- 6:34Speaker 1: say member since eighty five, even though I was born
- 6:36Speaker 1: in eighty two. But my credit history goes back that far,
- 6:39Speaker 1: so it's over thirty seven years. So every time I
- 6:42Speaker 1: get a new card, it gets averaged into that. Yeah,
- 6:45Speaker 1: so I think.
- 6:45Speaker 2: When iutang that's a blessing, it was.
- 6:47Speaker 1: A blessing, and that it's still a blessing. Actually I
- 6:49Speaker 1: still have the card because I just want that history
- 6:52Speaker 1: because sure that thirty seven years plus a one they average,
- 6:55Speaker 1: it makes it like sixteen years of credit age. So
- 6:58Speaker 1: I'm like that works perfectly.
- 7:00Speaker 3: In American Express is a huge relation bank, like indeed,
- 7:03Speaker 3: man having a long standard relationship with them, you can
- 7:06Speaker 3: get anything.
- 7:07Speaker 2: This is true.
- 7:08Speaker 1: But we talked about the number seven hundred and it's
- 7:11Speaker 1: key and I don't want people to you know, some
- 7:13Speaker 1: people may not have seven hundred, but it feels like
- 7:15Speaker 1: that's the goal. But there are people like, what are
- 7:19Speaker 1: the numbers that in the range that people should be
- 7:21Speaker 1: trying to get to seven hundred seven fifty. I know
- 7:24Speaker 1: we got some eight fifties out there.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm a little different when it comes to
- 7:29Speaker 3: credit scores, right, because I know the scoring model and
- 7:31Speaker 3: how much your credit profile matters. Most people don't believe
- 7:37Speaker 3: me when I say I had over one hundred thousand
- 7:39Speaker 3: dollars in credit card limits before my score was seven hundred, right,
- 7:42Speaker 3: and it was simply because I learned how to set
- 7:45Speaker 3: up my credit profile that will that far past my
- 7:49Speaker 3: credit score. There's a lot of time there's a lot
- 7:51Speaker 3: of people who have over seven hundred and still can't
- 7:53Speaker 3: get approved for over ten thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars
- 7:56Speaker 3: right because their borring power does not match their score.
- 7:59Speaker 3: So I don't ever recommend a specific score. What I
- 8:04Speaker 3: will say is, like I always say, a healthy profile
- 8:06Speaker 3: will translate if people need to focus on their credit
- 8:10Speaker 3: profile more meaning making sure you don't have any lay payments.
- 8:13Speaker 3: If you do have lay payments, try to rectify those.
- 8:17Speaker 3: If you have collections, try to try to rectify all
- 8:20Speaker 3: of your credit issues.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Make sure that you have at least.
- 8:24Speaker 3: Four accounts open at all times, like after you begin
- 8:28Speaker 3: to build credit. There should never be a time where
- 8:29Speaker 3: your credit profile goes below three open account or goes
- 8:33Speaker 3: below four open accounts any time. Regardless, you can have
- 8:36Speaker 3: an eight hundred credit score. If you do not have
- 8:38Speaker 3: at least four accounts open, any application that you do,
- 8:42Speaker 3: you're going to get what's called an empty profile penalty, right,
- 8:47Speaker 3: And we don't see this as consumers. We can't see
- 8:49Speaker 3: this on our credit score or our credit report. However,
- 8:52Speaker 3: when it comes to lenders and how our credit reports
- 8:55Speaker 3: are are assigned and how they translate over to their system,
- 9:01Speaker 3: if you have less than three accounts open, four accounts open,
- 9:04Speaker 3: then regardless of your score, you automatically panalize. You're automatically
- 9:07Speaker 3: moved down to a lower tier of borrowing power, multiple
- 9:12Speaker 3: tiers rather. So that's going to be more important making
- 9:15Speaker 3: sure you're not applying for a let's just say an
- 9:20Speaker 3: American Express card if you have just opened up two
- 9:24Speaker 3: other credit cards in the last six months.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Right, So those are the things that speaks more to
- 9:28Speaker 2: like your approval.
- 9:29Speaker 3: Now, when it comes to score, if I had to say,
- 9:31Speaker 3: I would say six eighty and above, you pretty much
- 9:35Speaker 3: with a healthy profile you pretty much can get anything.
- 9:39Speaker 2: Six eighty and it's super.
- 9:41Speaker 3: And the thing is, it's so And I know this
- 9:42Speaker 3: probably sounds far fetched to a lot of.
- 9:45Speaker 2: People, but it's so easy to get a six eighty.
- 9:47Speaker 3: Like I actually tell people, if you don't have at
- 9:49Speaker 3: least a six fifty, then usually one or one of
- 9:52Speaker 3: three things are the case. You had a recent collection
- 9:55Speaker 3: within eighteen months, a recent aid payment within twenty four months,
- 9:59Speaker 3: or you have high youation. Because as long as you
- 10:01Speaker 3: don't have those, you at least you should at least
- 10:03Speaker 3: have a six fifty, just in terms of how your
- 10:05Speaker 3: credit scores, how our credit scores are allotted