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#30: A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) [BONUS] · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hey everybody is so we had initially been planning to do
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  our Nightmare on Elm Street. Series on our patreon to help us
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  lead up to the eventual Freddy Krueger Jason, Voorhees
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  Showdown. Later this year in Freddy vs.
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  Jason and our schedule bot kind of screwed up.
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  That was a combination of just things.
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  You know how life happens and we were trying to figure out out
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  ways that we could handle that. And what we ultimately decided
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  is that because we need to Crunch and we need to release
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  several a month, two to three a month until we meet up with
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  Jason and we're not going to have time to do that and our
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  regular feed. If we edit an illustrate things,
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  the way we normally do. So what we're going to do
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  because we don't want to have people pay for something that
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  isn't our best work, we're just going to release everything as
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  bonus episodes. On our main feed and they're
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  probably not going to be our best edited episodes.
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  Matter of point, where they're not really going to be edited at
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  all, we'll do our sound editing and a tad.
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  A tad like, well, do the sound editing and we'll put in our
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  music and stuff, but we're probably not going to go through
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  and remove all the little pauses and asides and stuff like that.
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  Like we do with our main episodes.
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  It's just bonus. Shit, it's just bonus shit.
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  Yeah, and Travis isn't going to take the time to illustrate
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  every single. Episode because those take
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  several hours a piece to and because we don't want to ask
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  people to pay for something that we're not giving.
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  Monetary worth towards some make sense.
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  Yeah we're not going to be giving we don't want to ask you
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  a little taste for something that we're not going to have
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  time to put our full effort towards.
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  Yeah. So when we're also putting our
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  full effort towards our, our main feed, which is, you know,
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  not behind a pay wall. Yeah.
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  And so, what we're going to do is we're just going to release
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  things as bonus episodes at various Sundays throughout the
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  next few months. And this is our first one which
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  we did record initially for our patreon.
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  So it is Illustrated and edited Dad.
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  So you can enjoy this one and just know that going forward.
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  They're not going to be Third, there's still going to be
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  quality but we're just not going to be removing all of the, um,
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  Zan's, a stuff like that. And it's just have a little bit
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  more fun with the, with the cover art, for those episodes to
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  are you doing drugs for that? I'm not doing drawings.
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  I've got something else in mind. Okay well yeah.
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  So where are you two and a half minutes into?
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  Yeah, so it's just this is it. That's what's happening.
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  Enjoy No. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? Welcome to.
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  What's your least favorite scary movie?
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  The podcast, are we talk about our least favorite aspects and
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  most debatable opinions of our most favorite scary movies.
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  We fight over favorites. My name is Jessie and my name is
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  Travis and today, we are starting a new franchise as
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  promised. We are getting Nightmare on Elm
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  Street kicked off, so that way we can eventually get it to line
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  up with Friday the 13th. Freddy and Jason have their
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  Ultimate Showdown. So that's what we're going to be
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  doing. If you are listening to this,
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  you are hopefully listening on our patreon for the low low one
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  money per month, when one single money per month.
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  Whoa, get you access to this episode.
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  We will be adding more tears as we have more content available.
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  We've got to get a little bit ahead on our recording.
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  Schedule to do that. It's also possible that you're
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  listening to the first little bit of this.
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  On our regular regular channels. That way we can we can entice.
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  Yeah, yeah. Pull you in seduced, you do with
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  our words and such so good. So good.
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  But before we get down to the brass tacks, that are Freddy's
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  knife fingers. I wanted to do something a
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  little different today. Travis, I found as we were
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  unpacking, how many episodes in a row is this, that we've talked
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  about moving? It's been like, every one of
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  them for Most of them. Yeah.
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  Like since February yeah it's been a couple months straight
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  anyway as we're unpacking from our move into our house, that I
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  had all the buzzards, I found a book, I'd long forgotten and it
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  is by dr. Jennifer Parker.
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  It is a guide to interpreting Dreams and Nightmares.
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  And since we are talking the ultimate nightmares, I wanted to
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  go ahead and look at our own Dreams and Nightmares.
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  So I thought I would be fun. Yeah, Travis I want to kick us
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  off. What what's it, what's a dream
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  or nightmare? You've had recently.
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  You've got us a dream or nightmare because this book has
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  two different sides. Oh yeah, yeah, Dreams and
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  Nightmares. The nightmare eyes are so
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  scared. We'll try to remember to post a
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  picture of that turns to Camp. It was a dream, it wasn't a
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  nightmare. When was it?
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  I think like three days ago is the most recent memory of a
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  dream. I've had okay and I can't really
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  remember the specifics of the dream itself.
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  I'd just remember this one aspect of it, and it's really
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  weird, but it was do I go and say, actually what there's a
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  section that's what men and women recall, let's see if we're
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  any different. So factors associated with
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  recall frequency since you're struggling to recall.
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  Yours. Some of them I can remember
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  really well. But this is like the only thing
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  that I remember from this one. So men tend to have better
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  dream. Recall greater greater dream
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  recall due to interpersonal factors such as job-related
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  stress consumption of alcohol, which can increase dream recall
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  in the second half of the night. Waking repeatedly during the
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  night. Okay, they trying to say all
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  this stuff is unique to men because of this thing or just I
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  am trying to read the page sir, okay.
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  I'm just curious. Over tiredness, a natural
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  wakings and sleeping in a strange bed, can you reduce your
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  dream recall intrapersonal factors that can affect dream?
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  Recall are just simply being susceptible to stress and
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  physical illness and facing major.
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  Life changes are significant challenges and having thin
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  boundaries, such as being able to shut out the world life
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  offense and their effects. All of those increase recall for
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  men, typically cool, for women, interpersonal factors.
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  Such as divorce or the end of a significant relation can
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  influence recall women who adapt well to these changes dream,
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  more frequently, those who adopt less.
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  Well, don't dream as much family issues can increase the rate of
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  dream recall. Wow, no wonder, I remember every
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  single Dream from my childhood, we're working mother's dream was
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  probably due to tiredness intrapersonal factors that
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  affect women's. Recall frequency your period can
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  increase the recall of a Aggressive dreams women, who
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  register high scores of intuitive introversion,
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  conscientiousness and creativity recall.
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  A lot of Dreams. Ha ha, having thin boundaries
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  increases recall. Being creative increases recall
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  and Phaedra facing major life changes or challenges increases
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  dream recall. So I think major life changes
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  and stress applied to both of us.
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  Yeah. Alright.
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  Now that we've got some of that background info going forward
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  for the rest of our episodes. I'm not going to Do that for
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  every single night. Marry episode just going to do
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  interpretations from now on can we?
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  Yeah can we like each episode interpret?
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  Our most recent dream. Oh yeah.
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  Okay cool. I like that but I'm not I'm not
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  going to explain the differences between men and women every
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  single time. Okay.
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  Yeah. I think that's good idea.
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  All right so what was your most recent dream?
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  Tell me about it. So the only thing I remember is
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  it's basically have Halloween movie.
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  And it's a shot of Ori driving, so you get ahead on, shut it up.
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  And then from the back seat, Michael Myers appears, but he's
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  played by Arnold Schwarzenegger and he has a giant head, it
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  could be influence from the drawing, but you did really
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  listening. Yeah.
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  And I don't know why I was dreaming of Arnold
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  Schwarzenegger being Michael. Myers.
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  But that's what it was. It was a scene of how we and
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  where he appears from the back seat of the car.
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  Why while for is driving, that's all I remember of it and that's
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  unfortunate because it sounds like you had a lot of Promise.
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  All right, so Lori could be interpreted as a heroine symbol
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  in the dream. The inclusion of this symbol in
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  a dream is very powerful and suggest that the true self is
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  making an appearance. Whoo, often the hero will have
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  to travel to the underworld where thee The unconscious to
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  take on Fierce creatures and overcome trials.
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  The journey can be seen as an initiation, the dreamer must
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  undergo before accepting his or her true position in life.
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  Oh shit. You're gonna have to battle
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  either a stranger or your brother depending on what
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  timeline were in to become your true self.
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  I have a brother. Okay, so we're not in that
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  timeline then. No.
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  So I have a question for you, okay?
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  Arnold Schwarzenegger. As Michael Myers?
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  Yeah, I was a young Arnold or old Arnold Governor are How
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  would you describe his body and the governor era?
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  I mean, he's always rip, okay? He's always a body builder.
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  Okay? So the the Animus is the male
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  equivalent to the anima, the masculine aspect of the psyche.
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  This figure will appear in your dreams of the perfect meal.
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  That's why I was asking what you thought it was funny.
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  Okay. Being either to mail or two,
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  females, not a good thing in Union terms because it means the
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  personality is out of balance being approved.
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  If a female patient reported a dream in which she had sex with
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  a gorgeous unknown male. It doesn't really apply to you
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  Freud believed that a strong male presence in a dream, showed
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  unresolved issues with men in the dreamers life.
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  So a man that you have unresolved issues with, so are
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  you have to battle to become your true self?
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  So, I've got a bone to pick with somebody out there and I'm also
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  waiting my true self come out. Yep.
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  I'm going to express my true self all over this poor son of a
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  bitch. All right, so I don't remember a
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  ton of details about my dream, but what I do remember is you me
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  Scout and Talia we're all in bed?
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  And so he was roaming around the house as she does, except she
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  like could talk and was taking care of things.
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  She was our caretaker once your voice sound like um, like very
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  motherly and nurturing, honestly, I can't imagine that.
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  I can only imagine her having a really high-pitched, No, that's
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  not what she sounded like. She was like very nurturing.
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  I don't have a good, I don't have a good voice equivalent.
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  Yeah. So he in nurturing or not two
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  words like mix. Well the cat is one of a series
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  of animals including the wolf, the bat and the owl that are
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  associated with powerful mystical.
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  Female energy. Fuck yeah.
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  They're known as familiars and are believed to possess magical
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  powers or to enhance feminine powers of their owner.
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  Fuck. Yeah.
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  And you again psychology the That is the epitome of feminine
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  magic. He'll to the yeah.
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  Nice. It sounds like you had some good
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  stuff going. Yeah.
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  And it's I think that makes sense because we've been talking
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  a lot about the supernatural stuff, this past week and I very
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  much given my stance that I believe in things like that and
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  I believe in the karmic energies of the universe.
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  And that we're not the only beings in existence.
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  So I think it makes sense. That I would have a dream that
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  symbolizes that. Yeah.
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  All right, that was fun. In other words, About good
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  dreams. Let's talk about bad dreams.
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  Yay, scary eyes. Scary eyes.
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  So A Nightmare on Elm Street came out in 1984.
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  It was written and directed by Wes, Craven music by, Charles by
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  Bernstein. I can't read my handwriting,
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  special effects makeup by David and Miller.
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  Nancy was played by Heather langenkamp who beat out over 200
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  actresses, including Courteney, Cox for the role.
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  Hey, at least you got Her chance later with Wes Craven Fred was
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  played by Robert. Englund.
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  Glenn was paid by a very young. Johnny Depp, in his introductory
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  roll. Part of the reason he got the
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  role is because Cravens daughter found him dreamy.
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  I'm sure a lot of people did and this is literally like I would
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  not peg him as Johnny Depp. Just is even look like, I don't
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  know. He doesn't look like him.
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  It doesn't sound like end of an act like him makes you wonder if
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  Ike his whole look and way, he talks is an act.
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  That makes me think of the good place where It's like, yeah,
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  it's like before. No Johnny Depp, it's not
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  exhausting dealing with your whole thing.
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  Mars was played by Rene Blakely and Lieutenant Thompson was
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  played by John Jackson. It was made with a 1.1 million
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  dollar budget, and made 57 million in the box office
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  worldwide. It actually saved new line
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  Cinema from bankruptcy seriously.
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  That's insane. Yeah, it had four wins five
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  nominations, they're like, raise critical views are
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  across-the-board. One of the greatest horror films
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  of all time, it is called an instant Commercial Success.
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  It is the third highest grossing horror series with nine films.
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  A documentary, a TV show novelization of each film and
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  multiple comic books. Yeah, so it's a very impactful
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  horror movie and I've got some fun facts.
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  Okay, I'm doing a little shimmy. We're not at the point in doing
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  video yet but I'm do a little shimmy from a fun facts.
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  Robert Englund cut himself putting on the glove for the
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  first time. So they actually use real
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  blades. I guess weird, if they didn't
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  use real blades, they use decent substitute blades.
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  The movie was inspired by cases of real people.
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  Just simply dying in their sleep.
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  I heard it. Yeah, like there was the
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  autopsy, didn't show like heart failure, 60, Asian nothing like
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  they just died. Fred actually appeared for less
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  than seven minutes total on-screen, which one was Fred?
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  Oh Fred it's so weird hearing them called Fred and not Freddy.
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  Well, he's called Fred like up until the very end when Yancy
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  starts taunting him. Oh, they go back and forth
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  because it starts with a listing and girl saying Freddie that was
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  actually apparently Heather langenkamp.
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  Boyfriend was on set and he was like, seeing a little song.
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  If the internet's to be believed doesn't sound like a boy.
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  No, he wrote the little rhyme. Oh, you made it sound like he
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  was on, says sorry, they just had them.
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  They're singing it, there was more than 500 gallons of fake.
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  Blood used, not surprising. No, it was shot in 32 days.
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  The words Elm Street are not spoken and I thought this is
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  fun. Freddy Krueger is actually named
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  after a childhood bully of Cravens.
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  Hey that's cool. And it's not the first time that
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  he's used the name. Here, I forget which film it
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  was, but there's a character named crew who was also an
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  asshole. So tell you being on the screen
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  movies, maybe how I don't remember.
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  But yeah. So message, anti-bullying
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  message out there. Don't be an asshole, or you
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  might become immortalized as an iconic asshole for the rest of
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  your life, unless that's what you want.
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  Then. Yeah.
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  So here's another thing because I know the Yeah, 2009.
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  And I saw that in theaters. I remember, I think, I think
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  that's right. I think it's actually 2010,
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  honestly. So that remake had Fred
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  definitively denoted, as a child molester.
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  Yeah. And that's actually how the
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  script was originally written. But there was There was a series
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  of molestation cases in California at the time so they
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  rewrote the character to just be a child murderer.
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  They avoid to avoid claims of exploitation.
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  Yeah, but there's you can still kind of tell ya.
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  I mean I mean I know that, you know, they they outright say it,
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  but I mean, come on. There's I don't know what the
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  statistics are on it. I don't want to how we got so
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  heavy with the sexual violence, themes and neon demon and just,
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  I don't want to do any more weird sexual violence today.
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  Don't have to talk on that part. So those are fun facts.
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  We're going to go ahead and do our ratings now.
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  You go. First you first?
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  Yeah, 999. It's a chronic dude.
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  It is Iconic logo 66. Yeah, 6 M M6.
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  Yeah this is 7.5. Average Y6.
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  I don't really find Freddy Krueger creepy.
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  A lot of people do. A lot of people say is one of
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  the scariest horror icons out there but He doesn't really do
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  it for me. Do not because he isn't really
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  intimidating. And anyway, he is nothing
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  against Robert Englund but he is kind of a weird.
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  These doesn't, there's nothing intimidating about his
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  appearance and really the creepiest scenes in this thing
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  are the ones where you don't even see him.
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  So anytime he's on camera, he is either.
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  Just kind of like acting really silly and know that they this is
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  one of the more serious roles like one in more serious movies
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  of him because he gets really ridiculously later on but he's
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  not really shown as competent any time.
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  He's on screen. Like these are a little high
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  schoolers and he has a really tough time wrestling.
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  All these people and he has fucking knife fingers.
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  We're not writing Freddy Krueger, we're ready.
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  A Nightmare on Elm Street who Freddy Krueger is a fucking
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  major piece of the movie and the only piece with these types of
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  movies, you were / or villain your movie hinges on that and
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  how they, how they behave, how they are perceived.
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  It really relies a lot on that. And if the creepiness Factor
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  isn't there, then it really isn't.
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  It doesn't, oh no, I just doesn't live up to it.
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  Like I get that the whole nightmare thing is scary and he
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  can get you in your sleep. Oh you know it's just they don't
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  really I don't really play it that well because the nightmares
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  are kind of lame and the neighbors themselves.
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  It's the whole concept of you're not even safe in your sleep.
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  Yeah, that doesn't do it for me. Plus I think that it's more than
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  just if you're going in just expecting to like the bad guy
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  like you're going to miss out on so many other.
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  A good pieces of a movie. I think the Final Girl Nancy.
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  Holy shit. She was one of the most badass
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  final girls. Yeah.
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  I mean, that's why I gave it a six.
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  I'm not like saying the movie shit.
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  Like I'm just saying it's not creepy.
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  I'm just saying I didn't like the man in it.
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  So yeah, there's something wrong with that.
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  Like I feel like that's like a real gentleman criticism for a
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  horror movie. Well, I guess we'll see as we go
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  along. What happens?
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  All right, let's do it. All right, so it starts off in
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  the boiler room. I do like the beginning of this.
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  It's kind of cool with him. Just see him.
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  Suiting up with this knife, finger gloves and you don't
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  really get any context. It's just you know, this guy is
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  just chasing this girl in the boiler room and the atmosphere
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  there is pretty creepy because you're just kind of thrown in
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  the middle of it, and it's Jarring, especially if you're
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  watching this for the first time, you don't really know what
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  to expect. So I do give the intro credit.
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  Yeah, it's a pretty intense, like chasing nightmare in.
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  I don't know, maybe that's part of the reason right off the bat
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  that this movie is more effective for me, because I have
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  a long history of nightmares. So that feel like I don't need a
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  whole lot to get me thinking about my own nightmares, but
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  let's Craven captures the fear of what it feels like so.
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  Well, like that. Just that panic and no matter
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  what you do you're not going to be able to get far away enough
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  fast enough. Yeah.
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  Yeah he does a pretty good job of getting that right off the
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  bat, I always. Yeah.
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  And then the next day Tina and Nancy and Glenn are walking to
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  school together and she's talking about her Nightmare, and
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  he's like, oh, that's weird. I had the same Nightmare and
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  then Rod comes up and he said I had a boner when I woke Woke up
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  with your name on it and Tina says my name has four letters.
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  How could it fit on your joint? And I just think that's the
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  sickest burn. That was like that's my second
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  note on the paper because it's just amazing.
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  I think we needed more Tina and then as soon as I thought we
• 22:02
  need more Tina, I heard little Jamie Lloyd in my head going.
• 22:10
  Did you also think that Rod looked like Michael Jackson?
• 22:14
  No. But I thought his guyliner was
• 22:15
  on point. Oh yeah, that I wonder.
• 22:18
  Yeah, he had it on when he was still in prison to.
• 22:22
  I was like are they like just passing him his cold underneath
• 22:25
  like, hey man, go ahead and suit up a little bit because it was
• 22:29
  like, it was so like fresh looking in the prison really,
• 22:32
  wouldn't have been after that. How long was he in prison for?
• 22:34
  I do remember, is that one prison jail?
• 22:38
  The correct term is jail. Yeah, I don't know how long it
• 22:41
  was only like a couple days. Yes, sir.
• 22:43
  The movie takes place over very short, he's like, on the run
• 22:46
  before hand. It's like I say though, like
• 22:49
  maybe he's got his eye liner in his pocket and all things like
• 22:51
  his jacket pocket because he wears the leather jacket even
• 22:54
  without a shirt. So he just keeps his eye liner
• 22:56
  there. So it's good to go anywhere.
• 22:58
  Another jacket and the gel. Yeah.
• 23:00
  Oh yeah. Maybe he does.
• 23:02
  I mean it's probably like me and my lipstick because if I bring
• 23:04
  nothing else with me, when I go out, I bring my phone in my
• 23:07
  lipstick and I'll stick them into whatever.
• 23:11
  Holding device, I have usually your pocket but if you're not
• 23:14
  there it's like bra or like waistband of my pants or
• 23:18
  something. No pockets Pockets over so sad.
• 23:23
  So anyway, they Nancy and Glenn decide that they're going to
• 23:29
  stay with Tina because her mom is gone for the weekend.
• 23:33
  And I started making little notes about mentions of the
• 23:36
  parents and observations of the parents because I have a thesis
• 23:41
  and I'm going to get to it later but I'm taking note of what
• 23:45
  actions and behaviors the parents have because it's
• 23:48
  important to my thesis, okay? And what's happened with her,
• 23:51
  mom is Is the, she is in Vegas with her boyfriend, and the dad
• 23:57
  had like abandoned the family, previously Tina's, dad had.
• 24:02
  Is that what this is? Oh yeah.
• 24:04
  Miss ya it. Well, it's later on it's not
• 24:07
  like Tina was like hey do you want to come over to my house
• 24:09
  and my mom's in Vegas? Because my dad abandoned me and
• 24:11
  she's with her new booty call. Like she didn't say that that's
• 24:14
  that would be like awkward Exposition.
• 24:16
  Although if I was in a horror movie.
• 24:17
  Yeah, exactly. This thing I would say because
• 24:20
  that's I say things that make people uncomfortable because I'm
• 24:23
  not mad. Don't Drop My Singing.
• 24:25
  Is like you're saying this isn't realistic but then again, this
• 24:27
  is like the same shit you do. I make strangers uncomfortable.
• 24:33
  So they go to Tina's house and Tina's.
• 24:38
  Like, Glen should you be here? How scandalous?
• 24:42
  And he's like, and Nancy's. Like I was mom said, it's okay.
• 24:46
  And he's like, well kind of and then he plays like this stock
• 24:49
  sound tape. I want to know where he got this
• 24:52
  tape of stocks down. It's not only that I'm wondering
• 24:55
  why was immediately followed up by gunfight.
• 24:59
  I have so many questions. It's like a white noise machine
• 25:01
  with completely improbable scenarios on.
• 25:04
  They're like, who's requesting this to go to sleep with it and
• 25:07
  I know maybe some people have no some desired, it's like they
• 25:11
  grew up near an airport and that makes them happy at night.
• 25:15
  We were talking about sound like, what is the What is the
• 25:22
  You know, when people people talk into the microphone, like
• 25:25
  this ASMR, yeah. We were talking about that and
• 25:28
  different things that make you that like are soothing to listen
• 25:32
  to and it kind of got more General and people were like
• 25:35
  rain whale sounds. And somebody was like I like to
• 25:40
  listen to traffic was like what that they didn't explain it at
• 25:43
  all. They're just like to listen to
• 25:45
  traffic. They're probably from the city
• 25:47
  God. I guess I know my reasoning for
• 25:49
  that because I otherwise it doesn't make any sense.
• 25:52
  Weird. Anyway, that's, yeah, it is a
• 25:56
  very intense stock tape. I can't believe that Glenn's mom
• 25:59
  bought it, but I think she's kind of like my Glenn's a good
• 26:03
  boy. I'm not going to worry too much
• 26:04
  about him. I get a little bit of that
• 26:06
  sense. Yeah, we'll talk more about
• 26:09
  guns, mom leadership. Then they like, notice something
• 26:13
  outside. I think, right?
• 26:14
  Yeah. So there's this weird like nails
• 26:18
  on chalkboard type sound except it's more like metal on metal.
• 26:22
  And they're freaking out because they all had this dream about
• 26:25
  the men with like the long pointy fingers.
• 26:29
  And so, they freak out and they go outside and oh, cool.
• 26:32
  It's just fucking rod. Yeah, but it's cool.
• 26:36
  This guy's, I mean, what is this with horror movies?
• 26:41
  And like, guys have to sneak in on the sleepover in the most
• 26:45
  asshole? This way, I guess.
• 26:49
  Did I say asshole? Asshole, I'm watching too much.
• 26:52
  Good place. I feel like in this case, it's
• 26:57
  to make him. And a hittable.
• 27:00
  I don't know. Because well actually, I take
• 27:03
  that back because you're not really meant to feel bad for him
• 27:05
  or hate him. You're meant to kind of feel bad
• 27:07
  for him. Because I mean, I guess he's
• 27:10
  like a typical what are they? Yeah, scene 17.
• 27:13
  Yeah, they're like high school, I guess, I guess it's typical
• 27:16
  behavior. And I'll say it.
• 27:19
  I'll say my catchphrase teenagers are assholes.
• 27:22
  It's a thing. It's a known thing.
• 27:25
  I guess I probably knew people in high school that would have
• 27:27
  done stuff like that. We had a A friend of my friend,
• 27:32
  we were over like our whole friend group, hang out at her
• 27:35
  house all the time. And there was one guy in the
• 27:36
  neighborhood that her dad didn't really like just because he was
• 27:39
  very erratic and it was just it was too much chaos already with
• 27:45
  everybody that was always in the house.
• 27:47
  So one day I was going to be over for the weekend and like I
• 27:51
  am me and her we're all hanging out outside and he's like coming
• 27:55
  to need some spaghetti but he the other guy wasn't allowed.
• 27:59
  And so, he climbed up in the tree before her dad could see
• 28:03
  and like, were eating in the whole time were like giggling
• 28:05
  and looking outside and then he finally comes out.
• 28:07
  There was like a broom and is trying to get him out of the
• 28:10
  trees. Like you need to go back home,
• 28:12
  poor kid. So anyway I feel like that's sad
• 28:16
  Rod Rhodes climb in the tree. Yeah.
• 28:18
  Tina Connor. Forgives them.
• 28:19
  Almost immediately, though. I even though he's acting like
• 28:23
  such a piece of shit. Just go haha.
• 28:25
  Yeah. Okay, let's go upstairs and have
• 28:27
  sex. Yeah.
• 28:30
  Nancy's a good friend to Tina for being there, but she's also
• 28:33
  not willing to take any shit. She was like, Rod, we're here
• 28:36
  for Comfort. Calm the fuck down.
• 28:38
  Where are you? You're doing the exact opposite
• 28:40
  of what we need to do and then Tina's like, it's okay?
• 28:43
  We're gonna go have sex. Yeah.
• 28:45
  Gonna go have really loud sex and we're both going to fix our
• 28:49
  orgasm sounds. Yeah, they really so it can go
• 28:53
  ahead and like, hey man, let's have sex soon.
• 28:54
  She's like, no, we're here for Comfort.
• 28:56
  He's like, what the fuck you talking about and they're going
• 28:58
  up there to have sex. X.
• 28:59
  Yeah. Morality sucks.
• 29:07
  Yeah, that's what it says. I'm nauseous Lee loud.
• 29:16
  One was people in the house but to in general, like nothing
• 29:20
  against loud sex, but they're obviously like yeah, people
• 29:23
  would people do that? Like there was people like that
• 29:26
  in college like they're like they put on a performance It's
• 29:30
  like a Girls Club Girls Club. Oh yeah, go check out my crib
• 29:38
  islet. But yeah, so afterwards, the
• 29:42
  whole post-coital thing rods, talking about how he said
• 29:45
  Nightmare and he's two guys can have nightmares too.
• 29:50
  Look, there's a sensitive side. We're supposed to get forgive
• 29:53
  all of his previous Behavior, just because he's got feeling.
• 29:57
  Yeah, that's no, he's a man and me, Men have many feelings but
• 30:01
  they're not allowed to feel their manly feelings except for
• 30:04
  in the comfort of their own manly Interiors.
• 30:07
  That's like that's a post not reset.
• 30:11
  So at that point you like yeah like yeah like because the
• 30:15
  trucks Yak to say oh man hey what's up Tina?
• 30:19
  That was that was swell. Wasn't my golly, what do you
• 30:25
  gotta be? So mean basically you Mina But
• 30:30
  this reason to one of the first nightmares afterwards because we
• 30:35
  go back to another one. I'm Tina streams and she goes
• 30:38
  outside and in Her Dream, she sees Freddy down an Alleyway and
• 30:43
  he's normal and then it cuts back to Tina and then it cuts
• 30:47
  back to Freddy and all of a sudden he's got giant arms that
• 30:50
  are like, extending all the way across the fuck is that about?
• 30:52
  Does it looks goofy as hell. Do it.
• 30:54
  It's so scary. When I dream like when stuff
• 30:57
  happens like that dream physics have.
• 30:59
  No rules and it's terrifying because dream physics for the
• 31:06
  bad. Guys are just out of the wall
• 31:09
  but usually for you like, you're bound by all the same mere
• 31:13
  mortal physics. It's awful.
• 31:16
  Yeah, but he just doesn't look intimidating.
• 31:19
  He looks so fucking goofy. Oh, what was it intimidating
• 31:22
  when he ripped open her chest in both the dream and in real life?
• 31:27
  Well, before that, whenever he like, Retracts his arms, back to
• 31:31
  normal length. She starts running back from the
• 31:33
  alley, and then he chases after another instance of him looking
• 31:37
  goofy because he's got like the stupid little fucking run where
• 31:39
  he's like, kind of like waddling back and forth like a penguin or
• 31:42
  something. Okay.
• 31:44
  I have a real question for you. Well, what did you think about
• 31:47
  Pennywise and the new It movie? even when he did, let's say that
• 31:54
  little jig Yeah, I did like that.
• 31:57
  Yeah. Okay.
• 31:59
  How can you accept his goofiness?
• 32:01
  Because Pennywise is way creepier, why and appearance
• 32:04
  alone, and just his attitude? Like the way he behaves is way
• 32:08
  more. What, what is the difference?
• 32:12
  Pennywise is like chaotic in a way that he doesn't really
• 32:16
  understand. People like I think he feeds off
• 32:22
  of their worst fears, but what do you think Freddy is doing
• 32:27
  Freddy? Is just kind of sitting there in
• 32:30
  the corner and he's grinning and he's cutting off his own fingers
• 32:33
  and he's just like, yeah, we'll get that shit.
• 32:35
  The fucking power move man. Coming out of here.
• 32:39
  Yeah, we think about that Pennywise.
• 32:41
  On the other hand, he's just like, I'm going to keep the
• 32:44
  camera right on my head and it's not going to move and I'm going
• 32:47
  to fucking dance and it's gonna be Stable and it's going to
• 32:51
  creep you out because I'm a fucking Wild Card.
• 32:54
  All right. I think your motivation is
• 32:57
  purely shallow. I think you're going off of
• 32:59
  looks and looks are important. I think you're just afraid of
• 33:03
  clowns. I am afraid of clowns, clowns
• 33:06
  are very creepy. Travis is currently sitting in
• 33:08
  front of, for portraits of clients, one of them.
• 33:14
  Are you clowns tearing him down at the clown?
• 33:16
  One of the best clowns in Horror history 5e.
• 33:21
  Yeah, so okay, what about the what about the Tim Curry
• 33:25
  Pennywise to a lesser degree? It was more scary when I was a
• 33:31
  kid but see I think that you are just horny for special effects.
• 33:36
  No, not really. I think so.
• 33:38
  I think you like the as much as you like 80s slasher movies.
• 33:44
  I think that you like the newer cinematography and effects
• 33:47
  better known because cuz you're being awfully shallow about the
• 33:51
  reasons that you don't like Freddie.
• 33:53
  No, I prefer practical effects and it was mostly CGI with his
• 33:58
  stuff but I do they pull it off the aesthetic a little bit
• 34:02
  better. I believe.
• 34:05
  Pretty is just a man with a fucking door and a red and green
• 34:10
  sweater and he sucks at killing people.
• 34:15
  Like, I mean, well, he doesn't suck at killing people fucking
• 34:18
  dies. Pretty quick, man.
• 34:19
  After being floated around the goddamn room.
• 34:22
  Yeah. So, you know, actually, I need
• 34:24
  to take that back. So he does not suck at killing
• 34:26
  people, because all of the deaths in this are pretty
• 34:29
  fucking awesome. Especially this one right here.
• 34:32
  I like watching this. Now I'm like how Fuck.
• 34:35
  Did they pull this off? Because she's just like being
• 34:40
  drugged up to the ceiling and just like, dragging up against a
• 34:44
  like Bloods. Being like, Oh no, just like a
• 34:47
  trail of it, following her around the room.
• 34:51
  He's so get ride in the shot. You like get to see him looking
• 34:56
  up and seeing this whole thing happening to so they did a
• 34:59
  really good job with that. Yeah.
• 35:01
  Alright. Okay.
• 35:02
  Once upon a time I had seen something behind the scenes how
• 35:05
  They did that. I don't remember what it was,
• 35:07
  but it's a really cool way. That was a wires happen.
• 35:09
  I don't remember, we have this on DVD, but it was like a really
• 35:13
  cheap Walmart horror pack like it has the first four I think
• 35:18
  so. Yeah.
• 35:19
  Yeah, yeah. So it was like got it for $7 so
• 35:22
  it didn't have had some stuff. We just I don't think I don't
• 35:25
  know if it had any that. Yeah, we were trying to like do
• 35:28
  a bunch of back-to-back watching and recording that day so we
• 35:31
  don't have that much time. But yeah, there's some What a
• 35:35
  cool practical effects going on with it.
• 35:37
  I didn't love the effect of her chest being torn open because it
• 35:43
  felt very like you, and most of our listeners are going to get
• 35:47
  this. So, Barbies back in the day,
• 35:50
  whenever there was like a special feature to them, it was
• 35:52
  always like a little bit weird, like, they'd have attenuated
• 35:56
  joints or something, or like, you could have a little ring to
• 35:58
  make them flip and it kind of makes me think of like if there
• 36:02
  was a Freddy Krueger Barbie doll like a Tina plus Freddie Barbie
• 36:08
  doll set, her chest would be Hollows that way.
• 36:11
  You could, like, pretend rip it open.
• 36:13
  That's kind of what it looked like.
• 36:14
  To me, it didn't look good to you yet know, like the actual
• 36:18
  cutting effect, didn't look good, but I thought the blood
• 36:21
  look decent. Yeah, the boy.
• 36:22
  That's really good. Yes.
• 36:24
  Just actual chess cutting. Open thing was a little bit,
• 36:27
  like they didn't Linger on it for very long, but I think it's
• 36:30
  just because I've gotten to the point where like, I'm always
• 36:32
  looking at special effects now that I was like, hmm.
• 36:35
  It was a quick cut. So I mean if they lingered on a
• 36:37
  would have really been noticeably was for Quick Cuts.
• 36:41
  Huh. So then, you know, they Glenn in
• 36:47
  Nancy break down the door. It's locked from the inside.
• 36:50
  Rod has run outside because he immediately clocks that he is
• 36:53
  going to be blamed for this shit, and he is not wrong.
• 36:56
  And I mean honestly, who can blame anybody for blaming him.
• 37:00
  Well, for one, you can just stay there and be like, how the fuck
• 37:03
  am I going to be capable of? Dragging her up against the
• 37:06
  ceiling of this place. I'm not that tall.
• 37:08
  I can't like you might have to like be like I'm not that strong
• 37:13
  even though he doesn't want to say that, but how else is he
• 37:16
  going to play it? Like who is the other suspect?
• 37:20
  You gotta you gotta so he his whole defense with this because
• 37:25
  they track him down later, but he is saying that somebody was
• 37:32
  in the room and somebody killed her, he couldn't see her.
• 37:35
  Or you can see him but he knows somebody else was in the room
• 37:39
  and I think your best argument here is to go with that.
• 37:44
  Like it might not work the best for you, but if you're running
• 37:48
  away that's going to look so much worse.
• 37:50
  Ain't no jury going to believe it either way.
• 37:54
  He was going to fly regardless. No, Maybe So This is where we
• 38:00
  find out that Nancy's. Father is Lieutenant.
• 38:05
  And here's how we find out, because lieutenant, and some
• 38:08
  other officer, or talking and one officer is like, oh, mom is
• 38:14
  in Vegas with the boyfriend. She's not answering her phone,
• 38:17
  make a note of that Mom, not answering the phone even though
• 38:20
  she knows her daughter is home alone, okay?
• 38:25
  And Lieutenant Thompson goes. What was she doing there in the
• 38:29
  officer is like, what the fuck do you mean she lives there?
• 38:33
  And then he opens the door and says, I mean you talking to
• 38:38
  Nancy and I'm like, okay first of all rude to the officer
• 38:42
  behind you. Second of all, what the fuck is
• 38:44
  Nancy supposed to say to that? You have the first half of this
• 38:47
  conversation on the other side of the door without her?
• 38:53
  It's guys like Lives in his own head the entire time.
• 38:56
  It's got to be frustrating having conversations with him
• 38:58
  because he transitions from one conversation to the next with
• 39:01
  the next person he sees. And I do.
• 39:03
  What the fuck are you talking about?
• 39:04
  The divorce has been rough on him and he's been talking to
• 39:07
  himself a lot and his new Bachelor Pad are they divorce?
• 39:11
  Yeah. Oh I thought the dad was there.
• 39:12
  I thought I just thought he wasn't there all the time
• 39:14
  because he knew their they're divorced.
• 39:18
  Fuck man what'd I miss? That's why they're so like kind
• 39:21
  of hostile to each other throughout everything.
• 39:24
  I just noticed like stress from everything going on.
• 39:28
  No I mean there's stress to but ya know, they're they're the
• 39:31
  worst well so they got, they got that bde big divorce energy.
• 39:36
  They go fuck a mansion and the wife one that was yeah that in
• 39:40
  the divorce. So Lieutenant Thompson, even
• 39:45
  when he does start actually speaking to his daughter
• 39:48
  directly is still kind of a dick about it because he's like what
• 39:51
  were you doing hanging out with that lunatic?
• 39:53
  Sick and she's like Rod is not a lunatic Daddy and I'm like he
• 39:58
  kind of is a little bit Nancy. He did like pull out a
• 40:00
  switchblade on you guys. After he you know purposefully
• 40:05
  made you think that he was an intruder so you guys are kind of
• 40:08
  on edge. He's a little bit of a lunatic
• 40:12
  so and I he didn't he didn't kill Tina, slightly Lumi, she
• 40:19
  she was talking about how Tina and Rod had a fight.
• 40:23
  But it wasn't anything serious and her mom Marge.
• 40:28
  She's fucking Christ. Maybe you don't think murder is
• 40:31
  serious. Calm down a little bit, dude.
• 40:35
  Your daughter's best friend just was murdered.
• 40:38
  Yeah. While she was there.
• 40:39
  Yeah. And she's like, obviously, I'm
• 40:41
  taking this seriously just like I just meant you know them
• 40:45
  bickering about him missing a date, wasn't enough for him to
• 40:48
  kill her. Yeah.
• 40:52
  Jesus age. Yeah, it was kind of stupid
• 40:55
  junkie like you know spoiler but she's responsible for the murder
• 41:02
  of Fred Krueger Marge is Don't Call Him Fred.
• 41:05
  Just call him. Freddy come on Fred it's fried
• 41:08
  ready crooner. She is responsible for the
• 41:11
  murder of Frederick and It's a little bit hypocritical for her
• 41:17
  to be like, maybe you don't take murders seriously?
• 41:21
  Ha, ha ha. It's just one of those people
• 41:23
  that's like hell, it's different when I do it though.
• 41:25
  Hmm, my good old fundamental attribution, error.
• 41:31
  Love that love and Ernie for her.
• 41:34
  The next morning Marge is watching TV on her tiny little
• 41:38
  kitchen counter TV and the news is on and she's pouring herself
• 41:43
  some vodka. Straight in the a.m.
• 41:46
  And obviously, Marge's alcoholism is very much
• 41:50
  highlighted throughout this film, but that's another like
• 41:53
  parental Behavior to keep in mind.
• 41:56
  Yeah, and she's like, all the classic like alcohol is
• 41:59
  something like she's drinking first, they like she's always
• 42:01
  drinking. We never see her, not drinking,
• 42:03
  except for maybe at the Sleep Clinic and I wouldn't be
• 42:05
  surprised if she was packing a flask in her purse.
• 42:08
  Yeah, she's having stashes because she's got stashes hidden
• 42:11
  everywhere because Nancy busts a On the kitchen floor and she's
• 42:16
  like Artie down. Halfway through another bottle.
• 42:18
  A few hours later, she's got them packed up.
• 42:22
  She's yeah, she's not in a good place.
• 42:24
  She is clearly. Not handling several life
• 42:28
  things. Well and then Rod does the
• 42:31
  dumbest fucking thing he could do.
• 42:33
  Which is grabbing man. See when she's out in broad
• 42:36
  daylight even though he's presumably known her for a
• 42:39
  little while and presumably knows that her father, is the
• 42:42
  police Lieutenant, right? That's not a smart guy.
• 42:45
  We've yeah, we know that at this point but yeah, that's really
• 42:48
  stupid for like anybody. Right there.
• 42:51
  Like, she is a known associate. Obviously, they're going to keep
• 42:56
  an eye on her double obvious, if her dad, is the police
• 43:00
  Lieutenant, I guess. He really just wanted to get his
• 43:04
  point across to somebody. I don't know she believes him
• 43:08
  because he makes a compelling argument.
• 43:10
  It's, you know, everybody's already on edge because they're
• 43:14
  sharing. The same nightmare of the sky.
• 43:16
  That is just kind of creepy and doing weird shit and he makes
• 43:21
  some comment, I believe about how he had Like knives or
• 43:27
  something like that. Yeah, the knife fingers.
• 43:30
  Yeah. So now Nancy is like, okay, this
• 43:32
  is weird. That four people had the same
• 43:34
  dream. One of those people is now dead.
• 43:37
  She's starting to think that maybe there's a little something
• 43:40
  going on. Anyway, she goes to class and
• 43:43
  they talk about Hamlet. Oh.
• 43:45
  Well, also the cops bus ride. I thought that was kind of, I
• 43:50
  don't know implied by me talking about.
• 43:52
  Well in case it wasn't, it's important.
• 43:54
  He's he's been caught here. Yeah, and Nancy's rightfully
• 43:57
  pissed to her dad for using her like that.
• 44:00
  What is I understand him? I'm just also saying, I get why
• 44:05
  she feels like her privacy was violated because it seems like
• 44:07
  maybe he's not around a whole lot because he's very focused on
• 44:12
  work. And now that his parents are
• 44:15
  divorced, things are always tenuous between them, she
• 44:19
  doesn't get to just, you know, enjoy having parents, she's
• 44:22
  dealing with their dysfunction. And then, on top of that, like
• 44:27
  her friend, who she doesn't think murdered her.
• 44:29
  Other friend has been arrested partially, just because she was
• 44:32
  walking to school, which she was getting yelled at for, for going
• 44:36
  to school. Nancy is having a bad day.
• 44:39
  Mmm, fair. Then she goes to school and they
• 44:42
  talk about Hamlet and it's very intentional.
• 44:45
  I think that they're talking about Hamlet because Hamlet is
• 44:48
  basically a lot about prophetic dreams and sins of the parents.
• 44:55
  Which is obviously applicable to this movie.
• 44:58
  It's been a long time since I read it and I looked at the
• 45:01
  CliffsNotes and basically like what happens is, the king of
• 45:06
  Denmark is murdered and his brother comes and marries the
• 45:11
  widowed Queen and everybody thinks that like they think the
• 45:15
  King's death was an accident but there's like a ghost it comes to
• 45:19
  Hamlet and says no I was murdered by your uncle And
• 45:26
  Hamlet tries to print on that, he's crazy.
• 45:27
  So that way he can get away with trying to find the truth behind
• 45:32
  what actually happened, and expose it for what it is, which
• 45:36
  very much parallels. What Nancy ends up doing?
• 45:38
  Because everybody thinks that she's just gone crazy from lack
• 45:40
  of sleep and grief and stress and everything and then she ends
• 45:44
  up, you know, pulling Frederick. Out of the dream.
• 45:47
  Don't do this to me. God, you did this to yourself.
• 45:53
  Yeah, so fun fact for He didn't pay attention in English class
• 45:57
  in high school. That's what Hamlet's about and
• 45:59
  it's relevant to this, right? I did not pay attention to the
• 46:01
  English class and thank you for reminding me because I
• 46:05
  completely forgot about handle it.
• 46:07
  If you need the CliffsNotes of Hamlet, just watch The Lion
• 46:10
  King, really some baseball. It's also based off of some kind
• 46:13
  of Japanese cartoon but you know, like it's also based off
• 46:19
  of National Geographic. I may be wrong but I think it's
• 46:24
  called a keeper. Or something like that, but it's
• 46:28
  a blatant ripoff. Anyhow, we get to the scene of,
• 46:35
  what's her name? Well, this is the same scene.
• 46:37
  It's English class that she falls asleep in.
• 46:39
  Okay, well yeah, so she's asleep in there and this is one of the
• 46:45
  instances of a creepy scene that doesn't really feature Freddy.
• 46:49
  And one that I think is really effective.
• 46:52
  It features Frederick but not as fragile.
• 46:55
  Act like yeah, other characters like the hall monitor.
• 46:58
  I like that. Yeah, I like that.
• 47:00
  They do that because that's what like a layer to it but she sees
• 47:05
  a body bag being drug through the Baltic creepy-ass scene.
• 47:09
  I know it's really good and then whenever she wanders out into
• 47:12
  the hallway she sees it just a little laying out in the
• 47:14
  distance and then something invisible picks it up and drags
• 47:18
  even further around the corner. So there are so many references
• 47:22
  to this scene, in pop culture, Wes Craven kind of references
• 47:26
  himself with this in Scream 3 look a bit different because
• 47:29
  it's but no, he referenced. Yeah, the janitor named Fred is
• 47:35
  wearing a red and green sweater. But I'm talking about Scream 3,
• 47:39
  where Sid sees her mom outside and it's kind of like a similar
• 47:44
  like body bag reanimated type thing that's so jarring for that
• 47:48
  movie, that that moment any time that happens.
• 47:51
  I'm like, what the fuck is happening here?
• 47:52
  But yeah, this is a really good scene there.
• 47:55
  Is an episode of Buffy. That's kind of similar that to
• 47:58
  in the first season was the first or second season, one of
• 48:02
  the sea, one of the early Seasons, which I'm hoping people
• 48:08
  back me up if this is what you want to see.
• 48:10
  But I'm hoping we can get Travis to watch Buffy and we'll talk
• 48:12
  about a season by season on the patreon if that's what you want
• 48:15
  to see. Email us.
• 48:18
  Tweet me things at Travis just say Just say don't be a Xander.
• 48:26
  Travis I know in that Xander is annoying Sandra grows and it's
• 48:33
  not that he's annoying. Is that he's a blatant
• 48:35
  misogynist in the first P Seasons.
• 48:38
  Yeah, I've heard so. Yeah.
• 48:43
  There's there's like a nightmare episode and it very much
• 48:48
  references Craven in it. Well, back to the scene, I like
• 48:53
  the whenever he or wherever she goes around the corner and she
• 48:56
  sees the hall monitor, you can tell that it's going to be
• 49:01
  Freddy right away because she's wearing red and green, you know,
• 49:04
  get the whole Freddy, get up going on.
• 49:08
  And then I think my mom, she walks down further, she turns
• 49:10
  around and the hall monitor, like yells back at her.
• 49:14
  And suddenly she has the gloves on.
• 49:19
  I don't know. I don't know what else to say.
• 49:20
  I just love this scene, like it's really good.
• 49:22
  It's really creepy. And this is what I'm talking
• 49:25
  about when I'm saying this movie excels whenever the dreams don't
• 49:29
  necessarily feature Freddy themselves or himself because
• 49:34
  yeah, but this is Frederick toying with Nancy, like he's
• 49:38
  trying to get her barriers down. He's like it's part of the whole
• 49:43
  you know, mine fuck thing. Yeah, if he did more things like
• 49:47
  this. As himself instead of I don't
• 49:54
  know I feel like he's way more effective whenever he's a not
• 49:57
  like actual his own Menace and if manifestation big news on
• 50:05
  manifestation is there because I don't know something about it
• 50:09
  just kind of immediately drops it for me.
• 50:11
  Hmm interesting well this cuts to Nancy actually waking up.
• 50:17
  Her arm has been burnt. She wakes up, she's screaming.
• 50:21
  She's in the middle class. The teacher is like trying to
• 50:27
  calm her down and she's just like, I'm just gonna, I'm just
• 50:33
  gonna leave. I'm just gonna leave and the
• 50:34
  teachers. Like I don't even know.
• 50:36
  Yeah, okay. No.
• 50:38
  I mean like, she's like, I don't know what else to do.
• 50:40
  I fell asleep in class one time and It was a v bio and I forget
• 50:47
  what it was or supposed to be talking about.
• 50:49
  I just remember, I was dreaming something about flowers and the
• 50:52
  person next to me was like, did you have a question and I was
• 50:55
  like, what about the flowers? And then I realize I was awake.
• 50:59
  So like I've had that moment of like, falling asleep in class
• 51:02
  and all of a sudden you wake up and you realize you're in class.
• 51:04
  But I wasn't like I wasn't being pursued by a murderer, so I
• 51:07
  guess I can't fully relate not not to try and take the
• 51:12
  spotlight away from her childhood.
• 51:15
  So, she decides that she's gonna she just said she was gonna go
• 51:19
  visit Glenn at the jail. Sorry.
• 51:21
  I'm trying to understand my own truck when rod have fuck.
• 51:25
  Yeah. Rod.
• 51:26
  Glenn's a good boy. It's not good.
• 51:28
  Yeah. So she's just like she is really
• 51:33
  honestly, trying to understand what he's saying and what his
• 51:36
  perspective is and why you know, what could have possibly done it
• 51:41
  and that's where he mentions the thing about the razor fingers
• 51:45
  and Nancy is what's right? Yeah.
• 51:48
  And then we've got another fucking.
• 51:51
  So many fucking iconic scenes in this film, because this next
• 51:55
  one, is her in the tub. And we see that shot of the
• 51:59
  glove just coming off. It is Be a shit me.
• 52:02
  That one is cool. I like that.
• 52:03
  Yeah, like Parts like that. I like how it phases in and out
• 52:09
  of her being in a dream, and it's seamless.
• 52:12
  So you never know what's actually real, and what's not.
• 52:15
  That's really well done. I do appreciate that.
• 52:18
  And I think it's, it is so much more effective than other movies
• 52:22
  where you just have random dream sequences.
• 52:24
  Like we just talked about the neon demon and, you know, we've
• 52:26
  got that scene where counter Reeves is like putting his Knife
• 52:32
  into Jesse's mouth. Yeah.
• 52:34
  And the whole time like At first really great.
• 52:36
  What the fuck and then all of a sudden?
• 52:38
  It like actually is a dream. I like that, though.
• 52:40
  I like sorry, I liked it because it's jarring but this actually
• 52:44
  makes so much more sense when you like interweave it with the
• 52:48
  story itself, because that's what Nancy is actually
• 52:50
  legitimately going through. I think you and I, most of the
• 52:52
  time, if you have a weird dream, you wake up from it and it takes
• 52:56
  a minute to get over the fact that it was a dream.
• 53:00
  But like for her, she's actually being hunted in her dream and
• 53:06
  she gets so sleep-deprived that it's hard for her to tell when
• 53:08
  she's awake when she's asleep. When what's real, what's
• 53:11
  actually a threat? What isn't?
• 53:12
  And I think it's so like, it's not even just lip service to the
• 53:16
  audience. Like, here's a scary moment.
• 53:19
  Like it's actually the story. Yeah.
• 53:22
  You know what I mean? Yeah, so I think that's really
• 53:27
  great and then her mom Her mom is like, don't fall asleep in
• 53:32
  there to help you sleep. I brought you some more milk.
• 53:37
  She's just like people drown that way to the warm milk man.
• 53:42
  See is gross and I'm like hell. Yeah, it's gross.
• 53:47
  But then she falls asleep again and gets dragged underwater in
• 53:52
  deep deep. Deep deep deep water.
• 53:54
  And I've had this nightmare so many time.
• 53:56
  Being in water like that. Yeah, drowning.
• 53:58
  Going deep. Deep.
• 53:59
  Deep water, not in a tub. Usually, it's like on an island
• 54:05
  tropical Hot Tropical. It's more like, Lord of the
• 54:08
  Flies. Like, my nightmares are
• 54:11
  nightmares from beginning to end.
• 54:12
  They don't start off Pleasant like nightmare all the way
• 54:17
  through its dream or it's nightmare.
• 54:19
  It's not both, I can't tell if that sucks, or if that's good,
• 54:22
  because it's terrible. Do you remember the time I woke
• 54:27
  up and I legitimately thought you had tried to kill me because
• 54:30
  it was such an intense dream. Hmm.
• 54:33
  Remember it knows our senior year of college because you
• 54:36
  could make. You feel like I've gotta get up
• 54:38
  and get ready for class and I like scooted across the bed.
• 54:40
  Oh yeah. What is wrong with your nose?
• 54:44
  Like you just tried to kill me. All right, folks, if I end up
• 54:50
  dead, don't want this to come and unsolved mystery on Netflix,
• 54:55
  just Travis, did it? He just nodded.
• 55:02
  All right, so there's evidence is why nothing in the swing.
• 55:06
  I like how whenever she screams. And her mom was like, oh my God,
• 55:10
  what's happening? And she's like, I just tripped
• 55:16
  whenever you trip? Do you like scream at the top of
• 55:18
  your lungs out? Ah, don't you tell me?
• 55:22
  I had shrimp a lot and you usually come running to check on
• 55:25
  me. You don't do that.
• 55:26
  You don't scream like you're dying.
• 55:28
  I usually just make a lot of noise because I When I flew,
• 55:31
  when I go down, I take everything around me, with me.
• 55:34
  This is like scream, Queen, material screaming, right here.
• 55:37
  What Nancy does? She is a scream Queen?
• 55:41
  She is what I'm talking about. Like, when people don't do that,
• 55:43
  whenever they trip out of the shower, it doesn't suck that bad
• 55:46
  guys. Come on.
• 55:49
  Well after she's done with that she finds stay awake pills.
• 55:53
  Great. Great marketing.
• 55:55
  Who came up with that name fellas.
• 55:58
  It's a good thing. Yeah I mean if I went to stay
• 56:00
  awake, I'm gonna hungry. Yeah.
• 56:06
  Yeah I can see that being a thing for the yeah.
• 56:09
  And then she she does what always worked for me.
• 56:11
  In high school, which is just staying up reading and watching
• 56:14
  horror movies know, she does a terrible thing because she's
• 56:17
  laying down in bed. Watching TV, we both fall
• 56:20
  asleep. So often doing that, but she's
• 56:23
  staying up reading and I can always people fall asleep
• 56:27
  reading all the time. That's like, one of the things
• 56:29
  that makes people fall asleep. The fastest.
• 56:31
  Okay? Not, if you like to read and
• 56:33
  Nancy's a nerd like me and you can't give in to your, I love
• 56:36
  that. She's a nerd like me.
• 56:40
  You're just identifying with Nancy.
• 56:41
  But yes, you don't even know Nancy.
• 56:44
  You don't know Nancy. I know.
• 56:46
  We're better than you. What?
• 56:48
  Yeah, no I think I do. I think you don't Well, I know
• 56:54
  that it's a fucking stupid idea to weigh down in bed if you're
• 56:57
  trying to stay awake. Because why why would you do
• 57:01
  that? Okay, sit up.
• 57:03
  When my mom gets here, tomorrow, we're going to ask her about all
• 57:08
  the times that I stayed up, way, way, way, way, way, way, way
• 57:12
  way, way late with, like a flashlight or a little closer
• 57:15
  core, something and read my books.
• 57:17
  And she was like, well, that's why you're tired.
• 57:19
  Because you are you going on? No sleep at this point because
• 57:22
  she's not Slip the previous day. I won't know obviously.
• 57:27
  Well, that's what I'm talking about.
• 57:28
  Like somebody who's like, running low and sweep is not
• 57:31
  going to want to do is, you know, trying to defend her own
• 57:34
  life here. Terribly he's got motivation.
• 57:40
  No, it's stupid. I'm just saying you can't defend
• 57:43
  that it's stupid and defending it, you know, I doing a good
• 57:46
  job. Well, are you gonna defend
• 57:49
  Glenn? Climbing up a trellis, this just
• 57:53
  made me realize. West Craven has a thing for high
• 57:56
  school, boys. Climbing up in the high school.
• 57:58
  Girls windows. I know like, was that
• 58:00
  everything? I have a, I think it is a thing.
• 58:06
  I don't really know any other things.
• 58:08
  So this from, but I definitely know what happens in this and
• 58:11
  scream. No, I mean in real life, oh, I'm
• 58:14
  sure I'm sure people are did that.
• 58:17
  I mean, I don't really know any people who had that type of
• 58:21
  situation, to where they had like those circumstances lineup,
• 58:25
  and they wanted to see that person that night, usually
• 58:29
  people just kind of Come over and sneak in.
• 58:32
  All right, folks, if you've ever climbed a trellis or had anyone
• 58:35
  climate trellis to get to you, let us know.
• 58:38
  Please, I'd be interested. It's important for every search.
• 58:41
  I'm not going to tell you what we're researching, but we need
• 58:43
  to know it isn't. So anyway, he comes to visit me.
• 58:48
  A trellis and This. I'm laughing at not because I'm
• 58:55
  a bitter person who's like, I'll do use because Nancy looks in a
• 58:59
  mirror. And she goes God, I look 20
• 59:01
  years old, which yeah, 20 isn't old, but when you're 16, it is a
• 59:07
  lot. Like it is.
• 59:09
  And I know people like want to make fun of me like, oh, honey.
• 59:12
  I get that all the time where I'm like, I'm starting to
• 59:16
  legitimately get wrinkles and it is what it is.
• 59:19
  I've had a lot of sun exposure in my life.
• 59:21
  I've had a lot of stress. What the fuck?
• 59:22
  Ever it is like, I'm not mad about it but if I say something
• 59:26
  about it to somebody who's like, literally they could be a single
• 59:29
  day older than me and they'll be like a honey, just wait until
• 59:31
  you're my age. You'll have to just have a
• 59:33
  competition about how their life sucks.
• 59:35
  Congratulations on, not dying so far.
• 59:38
  I'm just talking about my life and I'm not even complaining
• 59:41
  that I have wrinkles. I'm just like, hey this is a
• 59:43
  fact about my life now and I use more lotions than I did before.
• 59:47
  Like Yeah. It's not like it is what it is.
• 59:51
  And so I'm not making fun of her saying.
• 59:54
  Oh God, I look like I'm 20 years old.
• 59:56
  I'm laughing about it because Heather langenkamp was actually
• 59:59
  20 years old when it was being filmed.
• 1:00:01
  Yeah, she doesn't look like a high schooler high schoolers
• 1:00:04
  never look like high schoolers the movies.
• 1:00:06
  Johnny Depp. Looks like a high school year I
• 1:00:10
  think he does. Yeah, no, you tell me boy, your
• 1:00:14
  tiny boy. I am a tiny boy.
• 1:00:17
  I could probably go to high school right now.
• 1:00:19
  Oh, you got a beard now. I went to high school.
• 1:00:22
  I went to middle school with a guy with the fact everybody,
• 1:00:25
  we've never talked about this, but Travis draws himself without
• 1:00:29
  beard on all of our episode are and he has rock and full beard.
• 1:00:35
  So it's not full beard Eli. Why it's like Scruff.
• 1:00:40
  It also lies about my hair a lot, too.
• 1:00:43
  I'll take, artistic Liberties beards aren't?
• 1:00:46
  I can't find a good way to really draw a beard on myself
• 1:00:50
  and make it look good. So I don't do it.
• 1:00:51
  It's the I feel like if I had a prominent beard, I would make it
• 1:00:56
  happen. But my beard isn't really like
• 1:00:58
  that big of a deal like if you picture me, Kevin's, first name
• 1:01:03
  Impala, you don't really think. Oh man, that guy's got a beard.
• 1:01:08
  You think that guy? He's got like he's got a soft
• 1:01:12
  cheese. He does.
• 1:01:40
  I'm sorry. I didn't, I didn't even I didn't
• 1:01:42
  even know I ever thought that until just now.
• 1:01:49
  We're Tame Impala fans. I love Taylor and Paula, I've
• 1:01:53
  got, I've got confetti from their show at Shaky Knees his
• 1:01:58
  show their show. I like, I don't know if it's him
• 1:02:02
  or there. I don't it's him.
• 1:02:03
  And he tore his with the band called Pond boys, very similar
• 1:02:06
  music. Okay.
• 1:02:08
  Alright, like, I get confused cuz I feel like I read both
• 1:02:11
  things all the time, just like, I don't know, just gonna refer
• 1:02:14
  to tame Impala's, Tame Impala all the time, but I also know
• 1:02:17
  his name's Kevin. Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Because people go. Oh, Kevin, where the fuck were
• 1:02:22
  we at talking about when she says that she looks like twin.
• 1:02:26
  Oh okay. So she she says she wants to go
• 1:02:30
  hunting and her dream and she tells Glenn not to fall asleep
• 1:02:34
  and to stand guard which is obviously a bad idea right off
• 1:02:38
  the bat. And I want to point out that
• 1:02:40
  Glenn is sitting up. In this Travis, pay student
• 1:02:43
  straight up. He's not laying in bed.
• 1:02:46
  Reading a book. So far the sleep.
• 1:02:50
  I'm just saying it's better to do that.
• 1:02:53
  Now, I'm not saying it's impossible to fall asleep like
• 1:02:56
  that, I'm just saying if you're going to try and stay awake sit
• 1:02:59
  up, obviously, our boy has an issue staying up because he's
• 1:03:02
  like, yes, almost as fast as her because she goes into her dream
• 1:03:07
  and she walks down the sidewalk like 10 feet and then turns
• 1:03:10
  around and goes when you still awake and he pops out from
• 1:03:14
  behind a bush because yep and I'm like he's in your dream
• 1:03:16
  dude. He's obviously not not awakened.
• 1:03:19
  See where he's in the dream? No, I don't think that they're
• 1:03:22
  sharing a dream. I think that's her dreaming of
• 1:03:25
  him. I feel like he's probably
• 1:03:27
  dreaming his old thing. Oh, I interpreted that as like
• 1:03:29
  he's already asleep though, is what I mean?
• 1:03:31
  Oh maybe, yeah. I mean, I wouldn't have thought
• 1:03:34
  that but you know but she sees Frederick and Rod style and then
• 1:03:44
  she sees Tina and Glenn is not waking her up and she was like
• 1:03:47
  screaming for Glenn to wake her up and Frederick chases her and
• 1:03:51
  then there's the marshmallow stairs.
• 1:03:54
  That's cool. I like that.
• 1:03:55
  Yeah. That's like, and that's such a
• 1:03:57
  real and I like the way that that was visually.
• 1:04:01
  Put onto the screen because I think everybody who's ever had a
• 1:04:04
  nightmare knows that feeling of like not being able to move.
• 1:04:07
  So I like that idea of like instead of just having Robert
• 1:04:12
  Englund and Heather langenkamp act, like they can't move very
• 1:04:16
  much like they gave them something to be stuck in.
• 1:04:19
  So at this point, do you think that he is actively trying to
• 1:04:22
  kill her? Or do you think he's fucking
• 1:04:24
  well, he's fucking with her, you think so?
• 1:04:25
  I think so. I think he's trying to kill her.
• 1:04:28
  No, I think he's fucking with her.
• 1:04:30
  Her because he wrestled her to the ground.
• 1:04:33
  And then she manages to get out of the dream, he's trying to
• 1:04:36
  kill her like he's got her pinned down.
• 1:04:39
  I think that's one of those things that he's fucking with
• 1:04:41
  her. If he's got the opportunity,
• 1:04:43
  he's going to kill her. But he's not like hell-bent on.
• 1:04:45
  Like I'm going to kill her right now.
• 1:04:47
  I just think he's, I just I don't think he's doing a good
• 1:04:50
  job. I think he's this is one of
• 1:04:52
  things against him here. Sometimes, like, Zoey likes to
• 1:04:58
  pounce on Scout a lot and when Scout gets the opportunity to
• 1:05:00
  pounce on Zoe, sometimes she'll sit there, and she'll rub
• 1:05:03
  herself up like a little bit too much too long, and then so it
• 1:05:07
  goes away and when she goes away the scouts just like, okay, like
• 1:05:11
  you know she's going to take the opportunity but if she doesn't
• 1:05:14
  she's not like butthurt, whereas Zoe.
• 1:05:17
  If Zoe wants to attack Scout and she does her little ramp up and
• 1:05:20
  Scout moves away before she's ready to pounce.
• 1:05:22
  So he chases after her. See, that's the thing, I think
• 1:05:24
  everything I think weather. I think everything before that
• 1:05:27
  is him doing that, like little butt wiggle likes, getting ready
• 1:05:30
  to pounce and him actually chasing her and pouncing.
• 1:05:34
  On top of her, is the point where he's trying to actually
• 1:05:38
  see through the whole killing. But he never is able to do it
• 1:05:44
  because he sucks at doing this because he's these are like high
• 1:05:49
  school children and my man is a grown adult.
• 1:05:54
  He is struggling to match these kids strings is not a grown
• 1:06:00
  adult. He is a super natural
• 1:06:02
  manifestation, so that makes it even worse than No, it's
• 1:06:08
  supernatural. Manifestation is way more.
• 1:06:13
  Physically should be way more physically capable than what.
• 1:06:15
  He is fully believe that he wants to just murder her
• 1:06:20
  straight out because okay, we haven't gotten there yet
• 1:06:23
  obviously, but at the end of the movie after like everybody is
• 1:06:27
  dead, he still fucking with her in her dream.
• 1:06:31
  Yeah. And this is after he's fucked
• 1:06:33
  with her. He's already fucked with her at
• 1:06:34
  this point. He's given her the marshmallow
• 1:06:36
  serious. Read him.
• 1:06:37
  The thrill is in the chase. Yeah.
• 1:06:40
  You got that chase. And he got on her and he, but if
• 1:06:43
  you can get a chance to do, if he can get the chase before and
• 1:06:48
  after death, what does it matter when she actually dies?
• 1:06:53
  It's not like she's special or anything like he's preserving
• 1:06:57
  her. He hasn't had any issues,
• 1:06:59
  killing anybody else. She is way more competent than
• 1:07:01
  everybody else and maybe she is special for that reason.
• 1:07:04
  Do you ever? Okay so like when you get a meal
• 1:07:08
  like a restaurant or something or you're like invited to a
• 1:07:11
  fancy event and you got like a bunch of sites and Link the main
• 1:07:16
  and there's the side that you're really really excited about.
• 1:07:20
  And you like Ethan, other things because you want to save the
• 1:07:22
  side for last, but you might take a couple of bites at the
• 1:07:25
  side but you want to like save the best part, like the majority
• 1:07:29
  of it for after you've eaten everything else.
• 1:07:31
  Usually the entree is the best part.
• 1:07:33
  Hmm. I'm a vegetarian.
• 1:07:36
  Yeah. You're a vegetarian allele of
• 1:07:37
  side dishes so much but yeah. Like, you know, when you do that
• 1:07:42
  thing or like when you eat a Pop-Tart and eat the like crust
• 1:07:44
  part first, and then you save the frosting past Listen, I'm
• 1:07:51
  not the only person out here that has weird food habits.
• 1:07:53
  I know at least one person listening to stuff like this and
• 1:07:56
  I'm sure like more than one does.
• 1:07:58
  You're the weird one for not doing that.
• 1:08:00
  I'm not said, it's because you only eat like three things.
• 1:08:03
  So, no, I like for at least more than three but anyway, it's a
• 1:08:10
  thing like that so like maybe he's having fun chasing Nancy
• 1:08:14
  around. But like he's also chasing these
• 1:08:17
  other kids. It's around two and they're
• 1:08:19
  easier to pick off and he doesn't care as much about
• 1:08:21
  fucking with them. And he's like, okay, boom, I'm
• 1:08:23
  going to kill you so weird that we don't hear about any other
• 1:08:26
  deaths going on during this because the classes way.
• 1:08:30
  Yeah, it's like a whole class of children.
• 1:08:33
  That's probably my biggest complaint is that we're not
• 1:08:35
  hearing like, at least passing mention of like, yeah, you think
• 1:08:39
  it's like, you know, Tina is the third and Nancy's class to die
• 1:08:44
  this month or something like that.
• 1:08:47
  Yeah, you would think that they would be.
• 1:08:48
  Nothing. But now, he's focusing solely on
• 1:08:51
  these four though, went to this house party.
• 1:08:54
  That Tina coasted. It's a house party I guess.
• 1:08:58
  I don't know. Sleepover no.
• 1:09:00
  It's a boy-girl sleepover. It's a sexy sleepover.
• 1:09:04
  It's a halfway sexy sleepover because Nancy and Glenn are
• 1:09:07
  there to support Tina and her fake orgasms.
• 1:09:11
  Morality sucks. Yes, good thing.
• 1:09:15
  That Nancy knew not to 100% trust Glen.
• 1:09:18
  Could she also set her very fucking loud alarm clock to go
• 1:09:23
  off. At like three in the morning and
• 1:09:26
  then when her mom busts and she's like oh yeah.
• 1:09:29
  No no it's no big deal Mom. I just had a bad dream.
• 1:09:31
  I'm like, I don't think it was your screaming that woke her up,
• 1:09:35
  dude. Her mom is probably wasted.
• 1:09:39
  Probably, it doesn't, it doesn't take much to satisfy her when we
• 1:09:43
  give her an answer. But also I was thinking with
• 1:09:47
  this, they're trying. So the goal is basically the not
• 1:09:50
  dream, right? If you cannot dream.
• 1:09:56
  That would be ideal in this scenario.
• 1:10:00
  Maybe they should try smoking weed because smoking weed.
• 1:10:03
  Apparently, reduces your ability to be able to dream.
• 1:10:07
  So, I don't know. I'm just saying.
• 1:10:11
  Hmm. There are like things you can do
• 1:10:14
  to reduce the amount of like how frequently you dream.
• 1:10:19
  So maybe not going to sleep. That's kind of a losing battle
• 1:10:24
  because you're going to have to go to sleep or else you're going
• 1:10:26
  to die. But, you know, you don't need to
• 1:10:29
  dream, I always thought, I don't think you do.
• 1:10:32
  They still don't really know as far as I know what dreaming is
• 1:10:35
  about. So there is actually, so there
• 1:10:38
  are certain animals that sleep with only half their brain at a
• 1:10:41
  time. I'm ducks are one such example
• 1:10:43
  because they'll sleep like in a flock and they've got like guard
• 1:10:46
  Ducks around the rest of the flock and they sleep with like
• 1:10:50
  half their brain. So that way the other half can
• 1:10:52
  be like awake and alert and they talk about humans having that
• 1:10:56
  they call it. The first night effects, like
• 1:10:57
  the first night in a new place, you're less likely to be fully
• 1:11:03
  asleep. You're most likely like Kind of
• 1:11:07
  in a similar situation, like sleeping with half her, like,
• 1:11:10
  you're not fully asleep and that's why you can be more alert
• 1:11:12
  to every sound that happens. That's been, that's been me for
• 1:11:18
  a good chunk of time. When we first moved into this
• 1:11:21
  house, it's gotten a lot better recently, but for like a little
• 1:11:23
  bit I barely slept just because I was on high alert for every
• 1:11:28
  single little noise. Right?
• 1:11:30
  And so I think that But I also don't think it's a thing that is
• 1:11:35
  necessarily easy to control and if I just heard that smoking, we
• 1:11:41
  could stop dreams. Like maybe if my issue was that,
• 1:11:44
  I was having really bad dreams. I'd give it a shot, but like, if
• 1:11:48
  my issues that like, I'm literally going to be fucking
• 1:11:51
  murdered. I'm gonna take the coffee, you
• 1:11:55
  know what I mean? Why not both?
• 1:11:57
  Because yours is a solution that says, like smoke the weed, then
• 1:12:01
  go to sleep and you won't have dreams. - whooshing that says,
• 1:12:05
  don't go to sleep, you can use them together.
• 1:12:07
  Like you can smoke weed for whenever you do happen to fall
• 1:12:12
  asleep. But you can still take your no
• 1:12:16
  sweet pills and they're called, stay awake pills, stay awake
• 1:12:21
  pills. Yeah.
• 1:12:22
  And then you can I drink a coffee, I remind you that scene.
• 1:12:27
  I can remember when it happens, but her mom confiscates the
• 1:12:31
  coffee pot from her room and she's just like pulls another
• 1:12:34
  coffee pot. That's already on the burner.
• 1:12:39
  Yeah. How many coffee makers did they
• 1:12:43
  have before the divorce? Because March was able to keep
• 1:12:48
  it at least two? Yeah.
• 1:12:51
  I just love those. Like, who the hell The things
• 1:12:53
  about doing anything like that. But, you know, also, So, like
• 1:12:58
  the way Nancy. He's off it does she not have a
• 1:13:00
  preferred mug? Is she not just using the same
• 1:13:03
  mug over and over and over again?
• 1:13:05
  And that is so weird bugs up there.
• 1:13:07
  Maybe she's like us. Like we've got our mug
• 1:13:09
  collection, but we have our goats whose.
• 1:13:11
  Yeah, we do. But I don't know anyway after
• 1:13:17
  after they convinced march with very little effort that it was
• 1:13:21
  said just a bad dream. Nancy and Glenn run to go see
• 1:13:25
  rod and the officer at the desk. Wait, God damn it.
• 1:13:30
  Didn't she what are you saying? God damn it to me safely.
• 1:13:34
  No didn't you pull the hat out to after that?
• 1:13:39
  Know that is f at the Sleep Clinic.
• 1:13:42
  Okay. Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  So they they run to the police station and the guy at the desk
• 1:13:48
  is like idea and not fucking Nancy Thompson.
• 1:13:50
  Which makes you wonder how Lieutenant Thompson is talking
• 1:13:53
  about Nancy at the station? Because she's only been there.
• 1:13:55
  The one time after her best friend was murdered.
• 1:13:59
  I think, Cressida like their goddamn it Nancy's here.
• 1:14:02
  The way this guy talked, he made it sound like he's had multiple
• 1:14:06
  run-ins with her. He said that's the reason I went
• 1:14:09
  to third shift is because I don't have to deal with you
• 1:14:11
  anymore, but yeah. It's the middle of a school
• 1:14:15
  night and she's out there at the police office pleased that she's
• 1:14:18
  like, we need to see rod and he's like, no can do and she's
• 1:14:21
  like, make it happen and he's like, no.
• 1:14:23
  And then Lieutenant Thompson, who's apparently at the station
• 1:14:27
  24 hours a day, starting to see why.
• 1:14:29
  The divorce might have happened, like I think it's a combination
• 1:14:33
  between Marge's alcoholism and the Lieutenant's workaholism.
• 1:14:38
  Yeah, man. Yeah, he's like Nancy.
• 1:14:43
  You need to go home and go to bed and she's like, no Rob's
• 1:14:48
  gonna die. And he's like, no.
• 1:14:50
  He's Behind Bars. She's fine.
• 1:14:53
  And she's like, just go check on him and then they go and check
• 1:14:56
  on him. And if they hadn't had this
• 1:14:57
  whole argument, they would have seen like this.
• 1:14:59
  Like sneaking up this body and wrapping a noose around them,
• 1:15:03
  but they didn't see that instead.
• 1:15:04
  They just see him him dead. Yeah.
• 1:15:07
  They just think he hang them self.
• 1:15:09
  It's it's it's pretty bad. So after that, Nancy talks her
• 1:15:15
  parents that, they're all having the same dream about the same
• 1:15:20
  guy, and that she thinks it has something to do with it, and the
• 1:15:23
  parents share a knowing glance. And they're like, no, no, no
• 1:15:28
  dear and there. Just gas like the shit out of
• 1:15:30
  her. It's all in your head, you need
• 1:15:34
  some sleep and after Rob's funeral, which is weird as I
• 1:15:42
  showed rods funeral, but not Tina's.
• 1:15:46
  Fuck. Tina is probably what they said.
• 1:15:51
  No, you said that was convictions or I don't have
• 1:15:55
  anything against Tina. Oh well you said it like you
• 1:15:58
  did. I'm a good actor.
• 1:16:03
  So at the funeral Lieutenant Thompson, he's never given a
• 1:16:08
  first name. I wish we had a first.
• 1:16:09
  Can we give him a first name? So I can start calling him the
• 1:16:11
  lieutenant. Oh Larry Larry, he looks like a
• 1:16:18
  Larry. Okay.
• 1:16:19
  Larry, he's Larry for the rest of this episode.
• 1:16:21
  So Larry and Marge stop their bickering for a minute and
• 1:16:27
  they're just like, we're worried about Nancy, she's going to be
• 1:16:30
  the, she's going to be what? What makes this nice to each
• 1:16:32
  other. For a minute.
• 1:16:34
  We're worried about her and he's like I want her to see A
• 1:16:39
  therapist and Marge's, like, I've got something better and
• 1:16:42
  then they drive in silence for three hours until we get to the
• 1:16:45
  hospital, and it's a sleep study.
• 1:16:51
  It's like an answer is like, why wasn't I allowed to talk for
• 1:16:53
  three days? Yeah, Larry isn't even here.
• 1:16:56
  I know that's his go-to move is to continue conversations with
• 1:17:00
  different people in different rooms but she was channeling
• 1:17:03
  weary. I guess.
• 1:17:04
  I don't know. That's what got them married in
• 1:17:06
  the first place. Yeah, I lost that spark.
• 1:17:08
  Are along the way. So at some point they started
• 1:17:11
  starting in and in the conversations together in the
• 1:17:13
  same room and they need the magic was gone.
• 1:17:18
  But anyway, Nancy's doing a sleep study. and, Her hair comes
• 1:17:27
  great Ring, the fucking set like At first the guys like oh look
• 1:17:31
  her brain waves, they're normal and it's all good.
• 1:17:35
  Oh she's entering into REM and then all of a sudden shit goes
• 1:17:38
  crazy, they think she's having a seizure.
• 1:17:41
  The machine is freaking out, it's ripping up the paper,
• 1:17:44
  there's smoke. There's gunfire.
• 1:17:47
  Some of this isn't real. What was she drinking?
• 1:17:51
  Didn't come show us. She's dreaming.
• 1:17:53
  It didn't show. What?
• 1:17:54
  It didn't show what she was dreaming for once.
• 1:17:56
  We see it from like an outsider's perspective, right?
• 1:17:59
  Okay. Yeah, and everybody's running
• 1:18:02
  in, I'm sure they've called some kind of code because they're
• 1:18:04
  they don't know what's happening and they think something medical
• 1:18:07
  is an issue here. And she wakes up and she's got
• 1:18:11
  like cuts on her arms that are real deep.
• 1:18:14
  She's got like this streak of gray hair and she's got
• 1:18:17
  Frederick's hat. Oh yeah.
• 1:18:20
  Yeah. This is where she gets that.
• 1:18:22
  So the whole thing like in The sleep study people were like go
• 1:18:26
  home. We don't know what to tell you
• 1:18:32
  inconclusive because what they put in her chart.
• 1:18:35
  Yeah, yeah, let's just write that shit off.
• 1:18:37
  That didn't happen. So afterwards we see march on
• 1:18:45
  the phone and she's a hiding, some pocket behind herself.
• 1:18:49
  Again. It's in the morning.
• 1:18:50
  We know because she's in a bathrobe.
• 1:18:54
  Really, she's the type of person that bathrobes it all day.
• 1:18:57
  I think she liked probably puts on like her lularoe later in the
• 1:19:00
  afternoon so that was she can feel like she's wearing
• 1:19:02
  something but she's still on her athlete.
• 1:19:05
  Yeah. Nancy calls her out for being a
• 1:19:09
  fucking alcoholic. She was like, hey Mom.
• 1:19:11
  I'm dealing with some real shit and you're off and like your
• 1:19:13
  rawal. And she's like, maybe I should
• 1:19:16
  just get wasted with you. So I don't have to deal with any
• 1:19:18
  of this and we're just like, Nancy what?
• 1:19:21
  And then Nancy throws the vodka AA on the floor.
• 1:19:24
  She was Nancy. What know?
• 1:19:26
  I like how? Whenever she's it's getting too
• 1:19:29
  real and she's calling her out. And her mom, just look at me, he
• 1:19:33
  goes to the scrap. Like she's like, that's what
• 1:19:37
  happens when you're confronted with, like, too much information
• 1:19:39
  that hurts. You personally are like you're
• 1:19:41
  at your wits and you don't know what else to do.
• 1:19:44
  Your instinct, just as fucking sweat.
• 1:19:47
  And then she slaps her and I feel like they were both
• 1:19:50
  surprised by what happened there.
• 1:19:51
  But like, she's like, I don't know.
• 1:19:55
  I was I was backed against a corner, like I feel like that's
• 1:19:58
  like I just look like that has a reaction.
• 1:20:01
  I could go to just like you're getting called out by somebody
• 1:20:05
  at work or something. And, you know, something that
• 1:20:07
  hits you a bit too close to home.
• 1:20:08
  You're so good. So having somebody would do that
• 1:20:13
  makes sense when it goes in my office.
• 1:20:14
  Like, hey, I know this is last minute.
• 1:20:16
  I'm just gonna let this Primal, I don't know where he is, I
• 1:20:21
  guess. Then we see Nancy and Glenn
• 1:20:26
  talking on the scenic Bridge beaten eaten because he eats
• 1:20:31
  when he's stressed same. But he's talking about dreams
• 1:20:38
  skills and Nancy's talking about learning about booby traps, and
• 1:20:44
  then going goes, hey, speaking of boobies.
• 1:20:47
  Oh yeah, so they talked about it.
• 1:20:50
  And it's just important because it comes back later, because
• 1:20:53
  news, It does booby traps and the dream skill like the turning
• 1:20:57
  your back on. What is in the dream takes away
• 1:21:00
  the energy that's that's important for later.
• 1:21:02
  So just keep that in mind. She gets home after being on the
• 1:21:07
  scenic bridge and finds. There's bars on all of her
• 1:21:11
  windows. And I just want to know how much
• 1:21:13
  Marge had to pay. Not only to get those nice.
• 1:21:15
  Like, cast iron, like Gothic style bars on all of the
• 1:21:21
  windows, but to get it rush-ordered.
• 1:21:23
  You know, she did not install that shit herself.
• 1:21:25
  No, definitely, no. Yeah, I was thinking the same
• 1:21:27
  thing. How is it possible to get that
• 1:21:30
  so fast and there were so many fucking windows on that house.
• 1:21:33
  Yeah. It's how often expensive was
• 1:21:35
  this anyway? Like how was she planning this
• 1:21:40
  for a while? Because like I think it was just
• 1:21:43
  happen after this. What happened this?
• 1:21:46
  When shit turn You made me slap you.
• 1:21:55
  You can't leave the house. Anyway.
• 1:21:56
  Yeah, that's what happened cage. Match. okay, Marge says that
• 1:22:08
  it's for security and This is like, security from what she's
• 1:22:14
  like, not security from what from whom she did.
• 1:22:19
  Say, who am I wrote down here with my notes.
• 1:22:22
  Good for her. Yeah, getting fancy.
• 1:22:24
  Yeah, so she tells Nancy the story of Frederick.
• 1:22:30
  They're like there was a child murderer.
• 1:22:34
  And he gets caught and he goes to court.
• 1:22:38
  But there's like a loophole because something wasn't done.
• 1:22:41
  Right is a warrant was a sign properly, it wasn't sign
• 1:22:44
  properly. So he gets off and a bunch of
• 1:22:48
  the parents tracked him down and they burnt him alive in his
• 1:22:54
  Boiler Room. and, She pulls out her stash of vodka from next to
• 1:23:03
  the furnace. Does she have one next to the
• 1:23:05
  furnace do? That's it.
• 1:23:09
  You don't have to worry about Frederick because Mommy killed
• 1:23:13
  him and then she presents Nancy with his rap.
• 1:23:16
  Yeah. Gloves like what the fuck out of
• 1:23:23
  my hands? What the fuck are you doing?
• 1:23:26
  Keeping those? Why did you grab that?
• 1:23:29
  It makes me feel like like, Marge did most.
• 1:23:32
  Like she was The Mastermind behind it, because why else
• 1:23:34
  would she keep the gloves? I get the point that they were
• 1:23:37
  trying to move past it, but if you're trying to move past it,
• 1:23:40
  why would you keep something that would remind you of?
• 1:23:43
  So, and this is where my thesis kind of comes in.
• 1:23:46
  I think that this movie is a little bit, not directly, but
• 1:23:52
  like, we know, Wes Craven like loves meta-commentary right.
• 1:23:57
  I think, That this is what happens after a horror movie is
• 1:24:05
  over because you can see the whole child murderer, vigilante
• 1:24:09
  thing being kind of like a horror movie situation, you
• 1:24:11
  know, like you're an adult. You see all these children
• 1:24:13
  around you dying and the local law enforcement is incompetent.
• 1:24:17
  So you take action into your own hands, right?
• 1:24:20
  It's classic classic slasher movie type thing.
• 1:24:25
  And then you have to think like and I think what comes up in
• 1:24:28
  discussions after horror movies, like that is, what is the after
• 1:24:32
  effects for the character? What is their lives?
• 1:24:34
  Like what what kind of therapy are they doing?
• 1:24:37
  Are they actually living fulfilling lives?
• 1:24:39
  And we can see like Tina's parents, they split up the dad
• 1:24:43
  is just completely out of their lives and it sounds like the mom
• 1:24:46
  is like not present for Tina at all.
• 1:24:51
  We see Nancy's parents have split up.
• 1:24:55
  Her mom is an alcoholic. Her dad won't stay away from
• 1:24:57
  work. We don't know anything about
• 1:24:59
  rods parents, but we know he's kind of off the chain nobody,
• 1:25:03
  besides Nancy came to see him in jail, so they're clearly not
• 1:25:06
  involved with him. The only couple that still
• 1:25:08
  together is Glenn's parents and it seems like the dad is very,
• 1:25:12
  very paranoid and the mom is like, just a nervous, little
• 1:25:16
  ball of energy the whole time. So I think we are seeing these
• 1:25:19
  parents dealing with their own trauma, but it's not We're not
• 1:25:24
  focusing on their trauma directly, but we're seeing how,
• 1:25:28
  like it's this, it's almost like generational trauma that they're
• 1:25:32
  dealing with, which is what I think this story is doing
• 1:25:35
  anything, but generation generational.
• 1:25:37
  Trauma is so like, when something, if an older
• 1:25:42
  generation has experienced something and the after effects
• 1:25:45
  of that are still influencing future Generations.
• 1:25:50
  So even though maybe he isn't risk, Nancy didn't have the
• 1:25:55
  exact same experience that her parents did and she's not
• 1:25:58
  responding in the exact same way, she's still having after
• 1:26:01
  effects of that trauma. As a result of it, okay.
• 1:26:06
  And she's having to also not only is she dealing with like
• 1:26:09
  Frederick himself, but she's also having to deal with
• 1:26:12
  everything that came along with her parents response to what
• 1:26:15
  happened So, she's having a deal with her parents being split up,
• 1:26:19
  her dad being mostly absent and her mom in her way.
• 1:26:23
  Also being mostly absent So I think there's there's a lot of I
• 1:26:29
  think to me, I interpret it just knowing how Wes Craven is in
• 1:26:35
  general. I think it has a little bit of
• 1:26:38
  a, what happens after the horror movies over.
• 1:26:40
  What happens? Like, not even just immediately
• 1:26:44
  after, but decades down the road hike that take, I think that's
• 1:26:48
  pretty cool. Actually, if that was actually
• 1:26:50
  the case, then yeah, that would be really neat.
• 1:26:52
  The cool thing about movies is you can interpret them, however,
• 1:26:55
  you want. That's true.
• 1:26:56
  So it's been we find out that it's been seven days since Nancy
• 1:26:59
  slept, and we know this because she is called Glenn.
• 1:27:03
  She's trying to warn him about Frederick coming for him and her
• 1:27:09
  because she says, you know, once he gets me, he's going to get
• 1:27:11
  you to, and she's, he's like what?
• 1:27:16
  And when he's like, how long have you been awake?
• 1:27:18
  She says, seven days. Don't worry, I checked Guinness.
• 1:27:21
  The record is 11 days and that is accurate.
• 1:27:24
  It was accurate, as of 1964. And Has beat it since then, it
• 1:27:27
  was like something like 11 days and 17 minutes. 17 minutes.
• 1:27:31
  Feel like David Blaine's going to take that on, think so, but
• 1:27:37
  Glenn's dad is outside. And this is where he's drinking
• 1:27:40
  and being judgmental of Nancy's, mom, and Nancy, really mostly
• 1:27:45
  Nancy. Yeah, I love this because from
• 1:27:49
  the time when Nancy and Glenn have their conversation and she
• 1:27:54
  was like, I'm gonna try And do this thing at midnight, stay
• 1:27:58
  awake until midnight. I think it almost like it feels
• 1:28:02
  like time drags so slowly, which I feel like it's accurate for
• 1:28:08
  when you're really tired like that.
• 1:28:10
  And you're trying to stay awake kind of yeah, one of the things
• 1:28:14
  happen in this. A lot of things happened in a
• 1:28:16
  really short amount of time but I think that's kind of what the
• 1:28:19
  beauty it is. Your like oh sure, because I
• 1:28:22
  think part of it is because we're so used to movie time
• 1:28:24
  moving so much faster, right? Because See periods of days
• 1:28:28
  weeks, months and movies. And this was like it was just
• 1:28:32
  dragging so much and she's and we just and this is where we're
• 1:28:35
  just seeing like her trying to stay awake looking at the clock
• 1:28:40
  getting prepared. And this is where we see Glenn
• 1:28:43
  is listening to a record player and watching the TV at the same
• 1:28:47
  time and his mom comes in and he makes a joke about watching
• 1:28:50
  naked ladies. They have that kind of
• 1:28:52
  relationship, I guess. Good for them.
• 1:28:57
  The last thing that they get to do together is joke because glen
• 1:29:00
  falls asleep. He only had to stay awake for 15
• 1:29:03
  or 20 minutes but he falls asleep and he gets fucking
• 1:29:08
  sucked into his bed. And I I feel any, we needed.
• 1:29:15
  We need to talk about Frederick's.
• 1:29:17
  Call to Nancy. Oh yeah.
• 1:29:21
  Was that before or after its before?
• 1:29:23
  Okay. So Nancy suspect s falling
• 1:29:30
  asleep because he's done the ship before.
• 1:29:32
  So she tries to call to wake him up and Glen's dad is not fucking
• 1:29:35
  having it. So he leaves the phone off the
• 1:29:37
  hook and then she tries, all right, then Frederick calls her
• 1:29:42
  as like I'm your boyfriend now Nancy.
• 1:29:43
  And then it turns the phone into a tongue and that's creating
• 1:29:46
  goes. Yeah yeah that was also gross.
• 1:29:48
  What you just did? Yeah, so she tries to go down
• 1:29:54
  and run across the street because she knows what's up.
• 1:29:56
  Even if all the parents are like, no, you're wrong.
• 1:29:59
  And Marge is like drunk as a skunk on the couch.
• 1:30:01
  The door is locked from the inside with a key and she's
• 1:30:05
  like, I don't even know where the key is.
• 1:30:06
  And I'm like, Mars, what happens in the house catches on fire?
• 1:30:09
  This is a bad plan. It's just like, you're gonna get
• 1:30:12
  some sleep, even if it kills me. I'm like, I feel like you're
• 1:30:16
  gonna pass out before Nancy does March.
• 1:30:19
  Yeah, she's wasted. And then then Glenn gets pulled
• 1:30:25
  into the bed and just like a tour.
• 1:30:26
  Route of blood shoots up and like, makes an ocean of Blood on
• 1:30:31
  the ceiling. Another one that I was wondering
• 1:30:33
  how they pull this off. This is, I would say this is the
• 1:30:36
  best one, the best death of the movie.
• 1:30:39
  It like, it, it sticks in your brain and I feel like it doesn't
• 1:30:42
  even really look like blood but it just looks like a sea of red.
• 1:30:47
  Yeah, it's so yeah, it's so insane.
• 1:30:51
  See this is what I'm talking about.
• 1:30:53
  If you wanted to kill these people, he Why is he not doing
• 1:30:57
  this shit with Nancy? Because it would be a really
• 1:31:00
  fucking short movie Travis, stop being a buzzkill, not.
• 1:31:03
  If we had like all the other kids, You not want anybody to
• 1:31:07
  root for? Are you actually legitimately
• 1:31:10
  Frederick? I'm doing well, just stop
• 1:31:12
  fucking with her and, you know, just keep killing everybody and
• 1:31:15
  be like Final Destination. Where it's one at a time and
• 1:31:17
  yeah. But you still have a main
• 1:31:18
  character that you fall in Final Destination?
• 1:31:21
  Yeah. But you're waiting for his turn.
• 1:31:27
  That's why I'm staying with her. She would be like, fuck Quinn's
• 1:31:30
  dead? No, now it's my turn.
• 1:31:31
  I'm up next. I got to get this shit going.
• 1:31:34
  Well, that is basically what she goes.
• 1:31:35
  She's trying to get her dad to come to the house and 20 minutes
• 1:31:40
  and arrest him. And he's like, only halfway
• 1:31:43
  listening to her. I don't know who put the phone
• 1:31:45
  back on the hook at this point because she's talking to him on
• 1:31:48
  the phone. No, she's the own.
• 1:31:50
  And I'm from know, she's talking to him on the phone and she, and
• 1:31:56
  he's like, yeah, sweetie, get some sleep.
• 1:31:58
  Like, he's only listening to half of what she's saying and
• 1:32:02
  they probably, They probably plug the phone into call the
• 1:32:06
  cops. Yes, there's so many front of
• 1:32:09
  the house. Yeah well yeah I guess that
• 1:32:11
  makes sense makes sense. So somehow in 10 minutes she
• 1:32:17
  manages to set up. All these booby traps?
• 1:32:21
  Yeah, have a farewell conversation with her mom and
• 1:32:25
  took her mom into bed. And the talk that her mom gives
• 1:32:31
  her talks about how Nancy Is like good at facing things
• 1:32:35
  head-on. But sometimes you need to know
• 1:32:37
  when to just turn around and walk away which mirror is that
• 1:32:40
  conversation that she was having with Glenn earlier about the
• 1:32:44
  good dream skills and like turning your back on things so
• 1:32:46
  you don't give them energy anymore.
• 1:32:50
  And we see her do all of this in 10 minutes and then she falls
• 1:32:55
  asleep, Finds Frederick, and manages to be grabbing onto him
• 1:33:00
  when her alarm goes off. So, she pulls him out of the
• 1:33:02
  dream and she's like, you know, running through the house,
• 1:33:06
  setting off all these different traps and everything.
• 1:33:08
  And that's when she breaks out the front door and she shouting
• 1:33:10
  through the bars. And she's like, yeah, my dad.
• 1:33:13
  And like I was like, no, fuck you Nancy.
• 1:33:14
  I hate you now. See this point?
• 1:33:17
  Yeah, the house is on fire. She's like yeah.
• 1:33:19
  My dad, you asshole, and I was like, hell, yeah, Nancy.
• 1:33:22
  You know what I like about this Bay?
• 1:33:25
  Did the remainder of this whole thing mostly with Freddy being
• 1:33:30
  on fire and they kept the guy on fire throughout the whole thing.
• 1:33:34
  I mean, obviously not like in one shot but like it was pretty
• 1:33:38
  cool. I mean, you can tell it's
• 1:33:40
  somebody in a fire suit because it's like Freddy swelled up a
• 1:33:45
  little bit, but it's kind of cool.
• 1:33:48
  I you got Then actually going full on fire especially I'm
• 1:33:52
  trying to think how it would have went with them because they
• 1:33:56
  were a I don't know if they did this in a set or what but like
• 1:34:01
  the spacewalk really tie. So this is like a big fire just
• 1:34:07
  wandering around the whole home dangerous shit.
• 1:34:10
  That shit could have been dangerous.
• 1:34:13
  Yeah it like so all this like there's all kinds of traps going
• 1:34:17
  off like there's actual like Gunshot happening.
• 1:34:20
  Different fires lighting my bomb exploding.
• 1:34:24
  It's my favorite. It'd be good.
• 1:34:25
  Yeah, there's so much stuff happening and the other cop this
• 1:34:29
  whole time is like hearing this Ruckus.
• 1:34:31
  Saying these explosions seeing these fires.
• 1:34:33
  It's like, gee golly. I wonder if I should get Larry.
• 1:34:36
  Yeah, this is so fucking stupid. But eventually the cops do come
• 1:34:41
  over and dance. He's like thank God, finally,
• 1:34:44
  and then she can't find Frederick but she does find some
• 1:34:47
  fiery Footprints which I think is also So a really cool effect
• 1:34:50
  because that's not how the fireworks but it's like it's
• 1:34:52
  just cool to see. Yeah, it was cool.
• 1:34:54
  Yeah. And of course because the cops
• 1:34:58
  are incompetent and Nancy isn't Frederick has jumped on top of
• 1:35:02
  Marge and burns smothered her to death.
• 1:35:07
  Um, so what the hell happens here, because her mom is I think
• 1:35:13
  she's like a skull at this point and then suddenly the bed opens
• 1:35:16
  up and then she slowly descends into the bed.
• 1:35:19
  That's what happens. What the fuck why this is in
• 1:35:24
  reality at this point, I think bringing Friday out of the dream
• 1:35:27
  had like some metaphysical Realm.
• 1:35:30
  Vacations. That's the way I interpret it
• 1:35:35
  and also you can't convince me that Nancy was actually fully
• 1:35:39
  awake for all of this. I think it's meant to be
• 1:35:44
  ambiguous. I don't know what happens.
• 1:35:45
  Yeah, don't know what happened because the following scene is
• 1:35:48
  obviously a dream. What the hell?
• 1:35:50
  Yeah, so after after all this, you know Larry Larry sees it and
• 1:35:58
  you know, Nancy's just like, okay, just give me a second and
• 1:36:02
  Larry being the Stellar father. He is like, yeah.
• 1:36:05
  I'll let you stay in here with the bed where your mother's
• 1:36:09
  corpse has been absorbed. But that's that's that's
• 1:36:13
  logical. You're not in shock, it's fine.
• 1:36:17
  But Nancy turns around and she's just like I take back all the
• 1:36:20
  energy I gave you like is like literally turning her back on
• 1:36:26
  him and then we get some really really gnarly.
• 1:36:33
  Early Edition Windows video editor effects across the
• 1:36:39
  screen. Yeah.
• 1:36:41
  It's not the best effects but we get that we get the gist.
• 1:36:45
  Is that Freddie's energy has? Supposedly been taken away?
• 1:36:48
  It's like it here. Yeah.
• 1:36:50
  It's basically. Oh, you can just don't believe
• 1:36:52
  it anymore. Whatever.
• 1:36:54
  Yeah. There's there's a lot of
• 1:36:55
  parallels with this in it that I never really realized before.
• 1:36:58
  Yeah, we were talking about it but Yeah, so then we have like a
• 1:37:02
  hard cut to like an overly bright morning and it seems
• 1:37:10
  like. All right, I'm off to school and
• 1:37:11
  her mom's like, okay, that's great.
• 1:37:13
  Have a good day. I'm done drinking.
• 1:37:15
  Like yeah. Like it's all like very uncanny.
• 1:37:21
  Yeah. And Nancy's like oh cool.
• 1:37:26
  My friends are so alive and she goes and she gets in this
• 1:37:28
  convertible and they're like haha it's a good time and then
• 1:37:31
  the top slams over and they're like whoa!
• 1:37:33
  What? A red and green stripe.
• 1:37:34
  Yeah it's red and green stripes and it just keeps slamming and
• 1:37:36
  they're freaking out in the car speeds off down the street and
• 1:37:39
  Marge is just like in a law. I think she gave up the drinking
• 1:37:42
  for like a Xanax because she's like a way to calm in the front
• 1:37:45
  portion, just like that's nice and then a blow-up doll gets
• 1:37:49
  pulled to the front door. I want to people complain about
• 1:37:54
  the bowl of dog part. I'm a fan personally because
• 1:37:59
  this goes into it would have been just weird if like if she
• 1:38:04
  was just a boy lovable doll the entire time.
• 1:38:08
  Yeah, well, you don't need to have like the mouth, you know,
• 1:38:11
  just have it be like an inflatable version of her just
• 1:38:15
  like that little dolls are for, right.
• 1:38:17
  Yeah. Fucking make.
• 1:38:20
  It just be like an inflatable version of her but the thing is,
• 1:38:24
  um, stuff like that, I guess sudden changed her being
• 1:38:28
  inflatable. It kind of adds a little bit of
• 1:38:33
  Like a surrealism to it. I guess somebody turns into
• 1:38:36
  something completely different. You are the one that has been
• 1:38:39
  complaining about this type of stuff, for the entire goddamn
• 1:38:42
  movie, Travis this right here, I'm not complaining about this,
• 1:38:45
  you got so mad about. Frederick's arms being so long
• 1:38:49
  earlier. Yeah.
• 1:38:51
  But that was stupid. I don't like it.
• 1:38:55
  Oh, so when you don't like it, it's stupid.
• 1:38:57
  Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, I like this, I want people
• 1:39:01
  don't like this part, but I like it because it's kind of weird.
• 1:39:04
  No, no kind of throws you off. Just seeing her being like all
• 1:39:08
  inflatable, just being drug through the window.
• 1:39:10
  I know that they did it just for like, you know, the scene and it
• 1:39:12
  was intentionally done like that.
• 1:39:14
  But, you know, In the end, I liked it, I liked it, I liked
• 1:39:18
  it. So, it's been a long time since
• 1:39:20
  I've watched the series all the way through.
• 1:39:23
  I With with franchises I am definitely a person that all
• 1:39:30
  jump around depending on what mood I'm in watching them at
• 1:39:35
  different points throughout the series.
• 1:39:36
  And so this is part of the reason this podcast is
• 1:39:39
  interesting because it's the first time that I'm really going
• 1:39:42
  through Friday, the 13th in The Nightmare on Elm Street movies
• 1:39:45
  in order and even then Travis and I have had wigs were even
• 1:39:49
  like hey do you want to watch Freddy vs.
• 1:39:50
  Jason we did that like a month ago so we're still kind of doing
• 1:39:54
  that a little bit. Bit.
• 1:39:55
  Yeah. But it's going to be really
• 1:39:58
  interesting because I know the other probably the most recent
• 1:40:02
  Nightmare on Elm Street before. This one was A New Nightmare.
• 1:40:06
  The roommate. No.
• 1:40:08
  A New Nightmare heat. Okay.
• 1:40:10
  Well, the Remake was more recent but yeah, the new night blocked
• 1:40:14
  out watching the remake Yeah, so and that canonical e.
• 1:40:21
  Heather langenkamp is like actually still alive, and then
• 1:40:25
  she's experiencing it. So, I'm just, I'm in, like, I
• 1:40:29
  think they were trying to reboot the movie in it.
• 1:40:33
  Is that correct? She returns and three.
• 1:40:36
  Yeah, no. She returns in a later when I'm
• 1:40:38
  trying to think of new nightmare with the plot is, your nightmare
• 1:40:40
  is a meta one where they play a version of themselves.
• 1:40:43
  The big, the cat is Heather, langenkamp is like talking
• 1:40:46
  about. By rebooting the series.
• 1:40:48
  Yeah. So I know like within the Canon
• 1:40:54
  of Nightmare on Elm Street. Nancy's not officially dead.
• 1:40:58
  Yeah. But I just can't remember how
• 1:41:00
  they get out of it. So I'm going to be interested to
• 1:41:03
  see. Oh yeah.
• 1:41:05
  You don't really see her die. Did you just see?
• 1:41:08
  Yeah. But the implication is basically
• 1:41:09
  that she's dead. Yeah.
• 1:41:10
  Also like most, like first entries of a horror franchise,
• 1:41:16
  they're meant to be Be one-offs. So, if it would have ended like
• 1:41:21
  that would have been cool. Because, ya know, it's great
• 1:41:24
  like, as a standalone film. It's honestly like it, it's
• 1:41:28
  amazing. It's good, it's good.
• 1:41:32
  It's a good movie but I wouldn't, you know.
• 1:41:34
  I don't I don't like as much as other people, well, after we've
• 1:41:40
  talked about it, how are you feeling?
• 1:41:44
  I don't know. I don't really.
• 1:41:48
  My opinion hasn't really changed on Freddy you haven't really
• 1:41:50
  convinced me otherwise but it's not just Freddy it's the whole
• 1:41:54
  fucking movie Man the movie, the rest of the movies.
• 1:41:57
  Good. So okay I won't have Freddy drag
• 1:42:01
  it down four points so I'll I'll make it a 7 but yeah I mean I
• 1:42:10
  don't know I just don't really see Freddy as a good / for
• 1:42:15
  villain. No, no, I just he's fine.
• 1:42:20
  He's just not creepy to me and I understand that he's creepy to a
• 1:42:24
  lot of other people, but he just doesn't really take it for me.
• 1:42:28
  I don't know. I don't know how to describe it
• 1:42:31
  on paper. He's sounds like something that
• 1:42:35
  would really work for me, but I think it's just the way that
• 1:42:38
  they executed in a lot of these movies.
• 1:42:40
  You don't really. I wish that he had more surreal
• 1:42:46
  shit like fuck with them more and the dreams like some of the
• 1:42:51
  worst that he's guy here is like him like giving himself long
• 1:42:56
  arms and I don't know, he cuts his chest open and green pus and
• 1:43:02
  maggots pour out at one point, he cut his fingers off, he
• 1:43:06
  becomes a car, I would have maybe preferred he is into it a
• 1:43:11
  little bit more because he starts right off.
• 1:43:14
  The bag is like look at these fucking things and he cuts
• 1:43:18
  himself open and then he's like yeah look at my fucking fingers,
• 1:43:22
  you know maybe let's ease into it a little bit and Give me a
• 1:43:27
  reason. I have that little jarring
• 1:43:31
  experience of being like, whoa, what the fuck is happening here?
• 1:43:34
  Like I thought she was good. But no no and say he's just like
• 1:43:38
  yeah I'm all burnt and look at this scary.
• 1:43:44
  But it's not. Well, the more we talked about
• 1:43:48
  it, the more I realized that, I undersold it the beginning
• 1:43:50
  because it's such a fucking great were movie.
• 1:43:53
  It's tense. It's got amazing.
• 1:43:55
  We didn't talk about the music, but the music is amazing.
• 1:43:59
  It's okay. I love it.
• 1:44:02
  I think it's really good. I wouldn't rank it up there with
• 1:44:06
  the most iconic soundtracks. Well, there's a lot of iconic.
• 1:44:10
  Soundtracks Affair. Yeah.
• 1:44:11
  But I think, I think that's part of what does it for me is?
• 1:44:13
  I don't always think about because we think about the
• 1:44:15
  pontiff has come, that's more iconic, we think about that but
• 1:44:20
  that's not. Music.
• 1:44:22
  And then when we are watching it every time I heard that little
• 1:44:25
  tent identity, I was like oh this is like because it's like
• 1:44:30
  slightly dreamy but it's also slightly Sinister and I think
• 1:44:33
  it's just it fits the movie really well.
• 1:44:35
  See every time I heard that I'm like, yeah, it doesn't really
• 1:44:38
  stick out other classics. Music is really important for
• 1:44:45
  these types of movies too. I'm not saying it was a bad
• 1:44:48
  soundtrack, it's good, but you know, it doesn't doesn't stand
• 1:44:52
  the test of time for me. Anyway, missing, I feel like
• 1:44:58
  there's so many classic moments in this so much classic imagery.
• 1:45:02
  So many classic ideas and I think I need to give it a nine
• 1:45:06
  point five. I'm glad you didn't do its in
• 1:45:10
  there. You're going to bump it up way
• 1:45:11
  to form 10. Just because there were a couple
• 1:45:14
  of effects that were distracting to me.
• 1:45:16
  Yeah. Like what I've talked about
• 1:45:19
  them? Sorry.
• 1:45:22
  I forgot which ones you said, like Tina's show their her
• 1:45:25
  chest. Yeah, chest.
• 1:45:27
  And that was really, the big one for me, was the chest and then
• 1:45:31
  the blow-up doll the end. You don't like it.
• 1:45:34
  I don't like it. No, it's our new average is
• 1:45:38
  eight point two five. Okay, .25, and that's I think
• 1:45:42
  that's fair. So tell you really didn't do
• 1:45:47
  much. She just barked at the TV dogs,
• 1:45:49
  so the beginning of this and then she slept the rest of the
• 1:45:51
  time. So he says that dog actors.
• 1:45:54
  I think, yeah between the dog actors and the fact that she
• 1:45:57
  went fully committed to the bit of it, being a Dream movie, I'm
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  gonna see, tell you, it gives us a seven.
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  Yeah, she had really active dreams during this.
• 1:46:07
  She was kind of doing what Nancy did when she was getting.
• 1:46:10
  In her brain scanned, just like flu.
• 1:46:15
  Touching all over the place. All right, so with our series,
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  we're not doing changes or sequels.
• 1:46:24
  With this know why. We haven't been doing it was
• 1:46:28
  Friday the 13th either, right? But I'm gonna ask, who did you
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  relate to the most I related to I don't know, man.
• 1:46:46
  I waited too. Quinn.
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  Because I like to watch TV and go to sleep or what you can
• 1:46:54
  think is, I like to watch naked ladies.
• 1:46:58
  It's a very small thing that he does in this.
• 1:47:00
  He watches TV and falls asleep like last thing he says yeah.
• 1:47:07
  No. I don't know.
• 1:47:10
  Yeah, that's, that's my thing. Well, who's usually too?
• 1:47:16
  Hmm. Probably Tina.
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  Why? It's cuz I'm I feel like if I
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  was having like I've had a lot of bad dreams in my life, that I
• 1:47:30
  think. If I was having dreams that are
• 1:47:31
  like, actually becoming like real, I would die right away.
• 1:47:36
  I don't think I would last like I think I would just die before
• 1:47:39
  anybody had a chance to figure out what was going on.
• 1:47:42
  You know what I mean? Yeah, so okay, that's what it
• 1:47:47
  is, okay. So, thank you guys for sticking
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  with us. Thanks for being a part of our
• 1:47:55
  patreon family. As always, if you want to talk
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• 1:48:34
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• 1:48:37
  shit. First of all, why are you paying
• 1:48:39
  money to listen to this? I don't know.
• 1:48:41
  But if you think we're shit, don't write us on any of those
• 1:48:45
  websites. Go to Twitter and call Travis
• 1:48:48
  out, please. He wants to fight with somebody.
• 1:48:50
  It's part of my Dream Destiny actually.
• 1:48:52
  Yes, it's his dream Destiny. Let him become his true self.
• 1:48:55
  Yeah, I'm looking for my brother.
• 1:48:56
  Other. Yeah, HBU be a strange man.
• 1:49:02
  A successful man. And we will be having our like
• 1:49:09
  I'm hoping that we're posting this before May 20th.
• 1:49:14
  That's my goal is to post this earlier in the week.
• 1:49:17
  Are you leaving this done? Yes.
• 1:49:19
  Okay. So I'm hoping and that that
• 1:49:22
  means that our next like free episode on Spotify, Apple
• 1:49:27
  podcasts where Koch's or whatever all of that will be on
• 1:49:32
  the 20th. And it will be Friday.
• 1:49:34
  The 13th Part 5, a new beginning.
• 1:49:37
  That's the hope, that's the goal, that's the dream.
• 1:49:40
  If not, then we will definitely have it posted before the 27th
• 1:49:44
  where we will be talking about 22.
• 1:49:47
  And I don't know when we're going to do our next patreon
• 1:49:50
  episode will for sure have a Nightmare on Elm Street in June
• 1:49:54
  and we're going to potentially look at other like minisodes so
• 1:49:59
  I feel like we need to crank these out.
• 1:50:01
  We're gonna have one month. Yeah.
• 1:50:02
  Once we once we get to a point where we can like record couple
• 1:50:06
  we just we Fell behind with the move and I'm really not trying
• 1:50:09
  to use that as an excuse. It's just like the actual
• 1:50:12
  reality of the situation, it moving is a bitch and we got
• 1:50:16
  really far ahead on our recordings before we moved and
• 1:50:19
  then immediately went back to square a 0.
• 1:50:21
  So once we get ahead will be able to start doing some
• 1:50:24
  minisodes and it'll be good again.
• 1:50:25
  Yeah, so that's it for now. And we appreciate you guys And
• 1:50:32
  thanks. Thanks, bye.
• 1:50:52
  Just put my book cover.