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02/13/26 - Hour 3 · The Huddle

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Speaker 1: Dominating the airwaves and interwebs on this Friday in the
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Speaker 1: good Lands, the Huddle drew billion arm and bringing it
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Speaker 1: to you from headquarters nine to twenty, Milwaukee, ten seventy Madison,
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Speaker 1: everywhere on the iHeart app, and of course we have
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Speaker 1: streaming huge numbers on YouTube, Facebook and x We just
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Speaker 1: talked about our current electric hero of the day. Yes,
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Speaker 1: and it's good that we did that, and we resisted
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Speaker 1: the temptation to call Nick Castianos a hero.
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Speaker 2: I'm so glad your mind was going exactly where.
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Speaker 1: I'm because Nick Castianos released by the Phillies.
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Speaker 3: There a hundred million dollar marriage ends in divorce.
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Speaker 1: They just swallowed the last twenty million in the last
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Speaker 1: year of his deal because they couldn't find a trade
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Speaker 1: partner for him. He's the guy who I mean, he
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Speaker 1: went to that team and he was a star.
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Speaker 3: Big time big. We went to a team where he
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Speaker 3: wasn't you know.
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Speaker 1: It was a different galaxy than Bryce Harper and Milntow
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Speaker 1: and those guys, right, so he never really fit in.
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Speaker 1: And then it came to a head like in June
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Speaker 1: when he was removed from a game for defensive purposes
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Speaker 1: in the late innings of a game in Miami, where
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Speaker 1: he lives, where he's from, where his family was there,
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Speaker 1: and they yanked him. So he went to the clubhouse
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Speaker 1: and retrieved a presidente a bottle of beer and returned
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Speaker 1: to the dugout. And this they're up by two runs
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Speaker 1: and it's the eighth inning and he walks into walks
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Speaker 1: into the dugout with a beer and starts yelling at
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Speaker 1: Rob Thompson, the manager, and at the bench coach and
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Speaker 1: teammates try to like, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, pull him back.
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Speaker 1: In the dugout, and he made a scene and then.
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Speaker 3: It just well didn't get any better after that.
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Speaker 1: And then they benched him for a game, and then
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Speaker 1: they played him like twenty five straight games or something
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Speaker 1: like that, but they continue to move him for defense.
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Speaker 1: Then they got Harrison Bader at the trade deadline and
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Speaker 1: they didn't really need him, and he got kind of marginalized.
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Speaker 1: So now any team can sign him. And for you
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Speaker 1: Brwis fans, like, let's get this guy. Let's get a bat.
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Speaker 3: We need a bat.
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Speaker 1: He hits in the playoffs, so we can he can
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Speaker 1: help us against the Dodgers hitting the NL central part too.
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Speaker 1: You can get him for the minimum because the Billies
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Speaker 1: are paying him twenty million, but he's going to go.
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Speaker 3: To Miami for the minimum.
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Speaker 1: You would think that's where he's wanted to go in
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Speaker 1: the first place, but they wouldn't spend the money to
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Speaker 1: sign him and Drew. I also struggle with like it,
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Speaker 1: and you hear this so many different times of the
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Speaker 1: clubhouse culture, and you don't want to ruin this. You
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Speaker 1: don't want to run in with anything.
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Speaker 4: But if my man does feel comfortable and confident enough
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Speaker 4: sitting next to Rob Thompson, as he explained in his
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Speaker 4: handwritten note, I like that. He said that was interesting
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Speaker 4: that it was handwritten right when The Athletic reported the story,
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Speaker 4: and they said that they had given him and his
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Speaker 4: agent some heads up that they were going to run
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Speaker 4: it and what had happened if you wanted to comment
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Speaker 4: on it. He chose to handwrite his statement and posted
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Speaker 4: on Instagram just before the story went live. He said,
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Speaker 4: you know, in front of my friends and family that
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Speaker 4: I sat right next to Rob and let him know
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Speaker 4: that too much slack in some areas and too tight
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Speaker 4: of restrictions another was not conducive to us to winning.
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Speaker 4: So I appreciate that he felt that you know, maybe
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Speaker 4: we all think that's exactly where the words that were
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Speaker 4: said to Rob Thompson that had three or four different
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Speaker 4: people restraining him and pulling him back into the clubhouse.
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Speaker 4: I just don't know you want that anything near a
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Speaker 4: successful team now, unless you got like the most confident
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Speaker 4: veteran player leadership.
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Speaker 5: Like the Dennis Rodmans going joining the ball something situation.
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Speaker 3: Then I think you can have a conversation.
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Speaker 4: But Drew, I struggle with a lot of different clubhouses
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Speaker 4: that I'd be interested in. You bring up Miami. I
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Speaker 4: kind of liked the way they played ball last year,
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Speaker 4: especially late into the year. They were plucky, they were
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Speaker 4: kind of Brewer like. I voted for that guy for
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Speaker 4: Manager of the Year third.
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Speaker 2: Definitely deserved, definitely deserved votes.
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Speaker 4: Some of you.
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Speaker 5: Is that the guy you want around a young team
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Speaker 5: that's building something right Billy, Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And I think he's one of the most entertaining cats
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Speaker 4: in all of ball. And I sure hope he I
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Speaker 4: know he's gonna have a spot, and I'm glad he's
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Speaker 4: gonna be on one of these thirty teams. But I
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Speaker 4: would be hesitant to grab Castianos and bring him.
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Speaker 1: Talking about the Jays, they're talking about them, obviously, the
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Speaker 1: Marlins because they can get him for cheap, and.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, want he'll want to stay.
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Speaker 5: His talent is is tantalizing, but but so is Milton Bradley's.
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Speaker 3: You know, one of those situations.
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Speaker 1: In four years in Philly, he had like the one
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Speaker 1: hundred ops plus was like league average, you know, So
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Speaker 1: it wasn't anything great.
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Speaker 3: He had some moments, big moments at some point.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just was and then like they kind they
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Speaker 1: felt like they were bending over backwards. They let his
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Speaker 1: kid like play on the field and like be around
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Speaker 1: and stuff.
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Speaker 3: And just weren't weren't getting the ROI.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just wasn't. But it got toxic. And he's
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Speaker 1: part of the reason it got toxic. And I think
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Speaker 1: he went there expecting to be catered to a little
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Speaker 1: more than he was. And again in the universe with
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Speaker 1: other star players, well, and uh, the team in all reality, Drew,
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Speaker 1: you're just not close to the biggest star on that team.
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Speaker 4: You mentioned Bryce Harper. Trey Turner is gonna be in
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Speaker 4: front of you, real is going to be in front
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Speaker 4: of you, Like the Wheelers. Wheeler's going to be Like
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Speaker 4: there's so many and that's got to be hard for somebody,
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Speaker 4: uh to take the blow.
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Speaker 2: To the ego. But he also, I mean he performed.
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Speaker 4: Two of his best years were in the Central when
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Speaker 4: he came over to uh the Cubs in a trade
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Speaker 4: near the deadline and was nails in nineteen and then
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Speaker 4: that one year that he was with the Reds, he
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Speaker 4: was pretty phenomenal there ruined the apology home the home
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Speaker 4: run that rest me apology, Yeah right, Tom Breman.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just never like, I'll be honest with you, guys,
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Speaker 5: And I know why he's entertaining. I know why he's funny,
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Speaker 5: but I don't I never like Castianos, and I don't
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Speaker 5: think that a lot of a lot of guys in
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Speaker 5: their clubhouse teammates would like him that much. We might
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Speaker 5: find him entertaining, but how many guys want him around?
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Speaker 5: Like there are certain guys like that, right, I mean,
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Speaker 5: you know, I just wonder, like, you know, some people.
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Speaker 2: Say the same about Andre Risen though.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's true, and he was he was
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Speaker 5: in Green Bay for a half a year, you know,
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Speaker 5: so who knows turned out they if they if they
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Speaker 5: kept it going a little bit. But but there again,
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Speaker 5: you had veteran leadership on that and that team as well.
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Speaker 3: That helped a lot.
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Speaker 5: I don't know, guys, It's one of these things, like
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Speaker 5: I understand being funny and having fun.
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Speaker 3: It is baseball and some things.
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Speaker 5: It depends on I think the person you are and
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Speaker 5: the type of respect you ever in the clubhouse. But
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Speaker 5: you bring a beer and you start yelling with the
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Speaker 5: manager during the game, I don't know, man, you just can't.
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Speaker 3: There's certain things you don't want to be around with.
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Speaker 3: Old will the old veterans will like that.
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Speaker 5: In the in the clubhouse drew that you covered back
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Speaker 5: in the day, I'm not really sure they would have
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Speaker 5: gone for that.
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Speaker 3: No, well, there was little pranks and stuff were okay,
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Speaker 3: right stuff.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we had some remember uh Prince going
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Speaker 1: after Manny parent child.
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Speaker 2: There's no video. You can't find video all that.
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Speaker 1: I yeah, I kicked the hornets nest there because I
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Speaker 1: wrote a column. I was at Milwaukee at the time,
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Speaker 1: and I wrote a column about how they they kind
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Speaker 1: of buried that, like.
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Speaker 3: In New York and live for that stuff.
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Speaker 1: It's your team, and they kind of buried it like
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Speaker 1: they weren't showing it like they should have been. The
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Speaker 1: replace the first kind of buried that on TV. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I got into a BA got mad at me for
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Speaker 1: that one. He was explaining the circumstance of sharing a truck.
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Speaker 1: It was a market where both teams were kind of
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Speaker 1: like Oxports on how Fox Sports wiscone.
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Speaker 2: Oh so it's like an actual thing watch that.
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Speaker 1: Makes sense a little bit of that, But it was
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Speaker 1: also a little sanitizing because Prince was their star, and
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Speaker 1: Prince went after the pictures like, you know, Manny Parr
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Speaker 1: left the bench after being removed from the game, like hey,
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Speaker 1: we gotta watch your bleep.
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Speaker 3: You gotta watch us, you know.
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Speaker 4: Well, And that's the That's one of these things where
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Speaker 4: the video doesn't always tell the whole story. Like if
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Speaker 4: the story reads that you know, Schwarbur amongst others former
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Speaker 4: uh big Lea or Howie Kendrick is as part of.
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Speaker 3: The coaching staff there, they said, and.
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Speaker 2: He was the one that grabbed the beer Michael Finley
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Speaker 2: style right up out of the hand.
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Speaker 3: Is said.
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Speaker 4: You know, you could look at that if all of
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Speaker 4: a sudden the camera pantens into the dugout drew and see,
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Speaker 4: oh god, Schwarburn, Swarburn, real muta are over there. Schwoarbert
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Speaker 4: Harper are over there giving it to him after he
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Speaker 4: got pulled a whole that they're they're ticked off that
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Speaker 4: that's a that's an issue going waiting to happen. And
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Speaker 4: then it's not even close to what the story was
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Speaker 4: that many Parr Prince Fielder one. If the story is correct,
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Speaker 4: Prince Fielder, good on you, because yeah, we all had
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Speaker 4: to watch it too.
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Speaker 2: We watched watch it.
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Speaker 5: I think, and you've been around Club Ausin's, but I
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Speaker 5: think it matters the type of like when you start
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Speaker 5: pulling antics, it matters a type of respect and what
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Speaker 5: you're about and players know that. I just think it
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Speaker 5: like I think of you know you you you covered
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Speaker 5: the team Drew and you wrote the article about the
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Speaker 5: sweep suits all right, like at the time, like some
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Speaker 5: of those things can be fun if you've got the
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Speaker 5: right leadership right, but they can backfires.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 1: There was also ned Yos got into it once with
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Speaker 1: the Johnny Estrada in between innings and the tunnel, and
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Speaker 1: then Tony Graffanino kind of stood up and it looked
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Speaker 1: like ned Yos was going at it with two of
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Speaker 1: his players and it was like they were again it
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Speaker 1: was in the circumstance frustration they had lost like ten
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Speaker 1: out of thirteen or something like that.
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Speaker 3: It was, you know, tempers. But but it's a workplace.
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Speaker 1: And imagine like some they call an all hands meeting
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Speaker 1: or something and you know, Joe from sales strolls in
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Speaker 1: like five minutes late, and you're just like really and
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Speaker 1: everybody else. It's like when stuff like that happens, when
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Speaker 1: guys step out the norms. You know, there's resentments. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it happens with the Penske file, it happens at XYZ Corp.
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Speaker 1: It happens in big league teams. It's like it's a
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Speaker 1: I try to tell people that, Like, what's it like?
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Speaker 1: It's like in office in baseball.
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Speaker 4: Baseball I think more than all the other sports, right,
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Speaker 4: because it's every day and it's so long, right, like,
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Speaker 4: and you're all together all the time, right, Like in
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Speaker 4: an NFL room, you have your little sub sections, right
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Speaker 4: you know, the offensive, defensive line room, and you get
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Speaker 4: different ways I think to break up the day and
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Speaker 4: moving around. But otherwise baseball you're with everybody all the time,
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Speaker 4: and just like in an office, base you're also going
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Speaker 4: to start getting picked off at certain guys that you
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Speaker 4: look at every single day, and like Jeff said, you know,
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Speaker 4: what's the what's the tax for a guy being a
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Speaker 4: d like that with bad karma for his fifteen home runs.
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Speaker 4: I do wonder if there will be any I mean,
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Speaker 4: there will be teams that they'll wipe them off, but
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Speaker 4: there's also teams that wipe off guys for character every
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Speaker 4: single NFL draft, and then there's still seven teams that
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Speaker 4: are waiting anxiously to sign said player. Yeah that's true,
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Speaker 4: or draft him and trade their first round pick like
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Speaker 4: James Pearce like.
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Speaker 3: So there's there's a plenty.
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Speaker 2: Of different teams that are just waiting and.
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Speaker 3: To go and spend that gap.
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Speaker 5: If you can help me win. We're all talent horse
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Speaker 5: at the end of the day. If you can help
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Speaker 5: me win eventually.
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Speaker 4: I think I remember the other one I remember was
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Speaker 4: was it Shaye Hillenbrand or I think it was that
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Speaker 4: it wrote in the Blue Jays clubhouse on the white board.
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Speaker 5: He raced with the manager head and said, this is
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Speaker 5: a sinking ship. Play for your contracts, and like that
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Speaker 5: was a big fight. They shipped down. There were guys
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Speaker 5: like there's history of guys like that, Chris Sale, cut,
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Speaker 5: the cut, the uniforms up and the socks class another one, so.
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Speaker 4: There's a Lester story was that he was out eating
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Speaker 4: like fried chicken during the game down on the court.
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Speaker 3: That's what it was.
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Speaker 1: The Red Sox guys, Josh Beckett or somebody.
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Speaker 3: They ordered fried chicken during fried chicken during the game
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Speaker 3: during a game. Yeah, they were just crushing.
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Speaker 2: You know what, I don't get original bucket of spice
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Speaker 2: and you.
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Speaker 3: Have all that.
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Speaker 5: Who's getting that? Was that when you were the Bux
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Speaker 5: ball boy, Billy and you had to run to oh.
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Speaker 3: Something's going to be a cheeseberger and he geo grab this.
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Speaker 4: Now. Luckily those orders are a lot of times in
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Speaker 4: like the same day, like John Henson's for the entire
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Speaker 4: year they blanket. Just hopefully it's there around five thirty
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Speaker 4: so I can watch two episodes of Family Guy before
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Speaker 4: we got to run out.
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Speaker 2: I think the best that way was the one time.
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Speaker 4: I can't remember who it was, while we were uh
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Speaker 4: my last year as a ball boy for the Bucks,
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Speaker 4: maybe like a Marquise Daniels tried to change the timing
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Speaker 4: of the plane and said that they were going to
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Speaker 4: take off at at ten instead of like six and
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Speaker 4: it took a good like four times when Jim Boylan
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Speaker 4: looked at it.
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Speaker 3: Like, pretty sure.
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Speaker 5: That's an arm that's right like me with the white
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Speaker 5: out on the Dennis appointment.
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Speaker 3: Didn't work. It didn't work.
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Speaker 4: It well, it was gonna work long enough, and then
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Speaker 4: they all realized that it was going to be themselves
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Speaker 4: that we're gonna get fined, like you know what, we
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Speaker 4: actually might need to be there, Yeah, actually might need
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Speaker 4: to be there.
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Speaker 3: Is that why Samuel Dellnber missed the plane?
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Speaker 4: No, that might have been because he was grabbing another
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Speaker 4: Man movie theater popcorn to walk on it.
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Speaker 1: Probably what a great dude seven nine, four seventy three
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Speaker 1: Nicola dot Com Talk and text s line. So if
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Speaker 1: Brewers fans like, oh, there's a bat we could get
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Speaker 1: for cheap, it's perfect Cassianos.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how perfect that is. And I don't
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Speaker 3: think he's gonna end up in Malwam. I no about
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Speaker 3: a number of reasons, but drew like yesterday.
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Speaker 4: Then I saw an interesting one that again really broke
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Speaker 4: my soul when I realized that one of my favorite
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Speaker 4: websites of all time and an aggregator before all these
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Speaker 4: dov Climbans tried to make it fashionable and cool for
12:26
Speaker 4: the JFL football or whatever they call it.
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Speaker 2: MLB trade rumors. I've been on since your print days, right.
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Speaker 1: I've been.
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Speaker 4: I've been reading MLB trade rumors right around June every
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Speaker 4: single summer since I could learn to read. They got
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Speaker 4: a paywall story of the Brewers trying to potentially be
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Speaker 4: linked rumored interested in a CJ.
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Speaker 2: Abrams bat from the Washington Nationals.
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Speaker 4: Now right by the time they get to the juicy stuff,
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Speaker 4: and how the Brewers would have to acquire Cja here.
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Speaker 2: That was where I had to subscribe.
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Speaker 4: I didn't see any of that, but Drew, I do
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Speaker 4: wonder if like the way that they're still sitting and
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Speaker 4: I get it's a it's a month away before opening day,
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Speaker 4: and last year you started the season with Vinnie Capra
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Speaker 4: as your starting third baseman and Oliver Dunn experience was
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Speaker 4: in there as well, so like you can get better.
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Speaker 4: I the more and more I look at the team,
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Speaker 4: it feels like they could have one more.
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Speaker 3: Move in them and C. J.
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Speaker 1: Abrams fits the profile of athletic super athletic. Love him
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Speaker 1: like thirty steels, twenty homers, Like that's the guy that
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Speaker 1: they would.
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Speaker 3: Like, maybe a big, big time guy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean the only run in with him
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Speaker 4: was playing roulette apparently when his team was eliminated at
13:36
Speaker 4: the casino that's near Wrigley Field.
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Speaker 2: Like, okay, I'll get it.
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Speaker 3: The third last game of the year.
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Speaker 2: Come on, I was on a heater.
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Speaker 3: You want me a leaf and table?
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Speaker 5: Coach?
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Speaker 1: Didn't he hit a big bomb against McGill at one point?
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Speaker 4: He did. He's a good player, He's a dude, and
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Speaker 4: I mean he was the kind of centerpiece of the
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Speaker 4: Soto trade, I think, from the Padres back to the Nationals.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's ever free to have war every year in
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Speaker 5: the last three years. So you know, the analytics has
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Speaker 5: loved that. I mean, that's a pretty good war, you know,
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Speaker 5: for a.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe that's a guy keep an eye on.
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Speaker 1: But I would say Cassianos not so much.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 1: If you needed a reason, and if it's been a while,
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Speaker 1: as pitchers and catchers reporting and everybody, every team has
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Speaker 1: hope and faith at this time of year.
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Speaker 3: Every team has optimism.
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Speaker 1: If you needed another reason to sign the Dodgers, well
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Speaker 1: they gave it to you yesterday when they signed Keston Hero.
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Speaker 3: They're taking everybody. Mikey alerted me to that he's back.
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Speaker 5: The amazing thing of all the teams that have tried
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Speaker 5: to give a Kesson a second chance, he was a
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Speaker 5: cup of coffee with the Angels, that it was the
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Speaker 5: Rockies and the Tigers triple A is that they've.
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Speaker 3: All been America.
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Speaker 5: You know, well the Rockies American League teams like the
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Speaker 5: DH now, but now everyone's got the Dhl's not a problem, right,
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Speaker 5: specifica Rockies were not a major league team, but the
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Speaker 5: rest of them. Yeah, but listen, listen, Keston's back. Come on,
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Speaker 5: don't give offs.
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Speaker 1: We'll localize this even at another level, because Kesson here
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Speaker 1: is with the Dodgers. The World Baseball Classics going on,
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Speaker 1: Billy's going to spring training, might drop by camel Back Ranch,
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Speaker 1: Keston here might.
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Speaker 4: Play against the might play against the Brewers, and odds
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Speaker 4: are next week I'm going to potentially try to check
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Speaker 4: in with old friend of show, Caleb Durban, because I'll
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Speaker 4: be in Fort Myers right here Jet Blue Park, where
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Speaker 4: the Boston Red Sox will be, will be trafficking. You
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Speaker 4: know what, It's going to be a pretty busy guy.
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Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta go to be hanging all over
15:19
Speaker 4: the place on those backfields. That backfield area drew down
15:23
Speaker 4: there in Fort Myers is wildly open. They got two
15:26
Speaker 4: concession stands and twelve parks, and they ask you to
15:30
Speaker 4: walk around like you've been and obviously spent so much
15:34
Speaker 4: time out at spring training, all of which in Arizona.
15:38
Speaker 4: I feel so terrible for the writers that are driving
15:41
Speaker 4: and doing the thing in in Florida, because you want
15:43
Speaker 4: to talk about the trek that you're making. It's difficult
15:48
Speaker 4: driving west in the valley around sun time. Sure in
15:51
Speaker 4: the afternoon, but it's nothing like the four hour treks
15:54
Speaker 4: they have for a one o'clock start.
15:56
Speaker 2: I think in the Great Root.
15:57
Speaker 3: And stuff, it's so much spring training and Arizon is
16:00
Speaker 3: so much better. I don't even think it's close, to
16:02
Speaker 3: be honest.
16:03
Speaker 1: Not it's not because and the commutes between the games
16:07
Speaker 1: are so much shorter.
16:08
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
16:09
Speaker 4: It's so quick, it's so easy, and like again, the
16:11
Speaker 4: accessibility at the Red Sox Park was awesome. I'm excited
16:14
Speaker 4: to see some more, but a lot more night games
16:16
Speaker 4: in Florida because the thing can get worke done during
16:18
Speaker 4: the day and then get on the bus and play
16:20
Speaker 4: those games.
16:21
Speaker 5: It's you gotta worry in Florida. You have to worry
16:23
Speaker 5: about Randolas more. Did you guys mention that? Sorry I
16:25
Speaker 5: was looking at.
16:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's that element of it. You're looking up
16:30
Speaker 1: Kessen here a stat.
16:31
Speaker 5: Well that's just stuff just in case he well, he
16:34
Speaker 5: hasn't posted on Twitter.
16:35
Speaker 4: And four do you want me to I think I
16:37
Speaker 4: got our I think I got my first interview with
16:38
Speaker 4: him in my in my folder.
16:40
Speaker 2: If you want me to bring that up? You know,
16:41
Speaker 2: someone play with the other guy.
16:42
Speaker 5: Someone asked yesterday and Twitter, like why can anyone figure
16:45
Speaker 5: out why Keston can't figure it out? That?
16:47
Speaker 3: No one can figure it out.
16:48
Speaker 5: If anyone could figure it out, we'd be stopping this
16:50
Speaker 5: purgatory with the being a four A player, Like why
16:53
Speaker 5: he can, you know, be the best triple A player
16:55
Speaker 5: of all time, but he can't hit major league pitching?
16:57
Speaker 3: No one can figure it out.
16:58
Speaker 4: It'll be fascinating to see though, if he has one
17:01
Speaker 4: one two month run in him right where where he'll
17:04
Speaker 4: he'll strike while the iron's.
17:06
Speaker 3: Hot before him?
17:07
Speaker 4: It'll be with the Angels or something. It'll be with
17:10
Speaker 4: some team that is kind of out of contention. Gets
17:12
Speaker 4: a nice little runway three different uh, you know, two
17:15
Speaker 4: months where he can play and get regular at bats
17:17
Speaker 4: would be fun. Mad City brew Brewers have plenty of
17:20
Speaker 4: starting pitching to go off for a third basement like
17:22
Speaker 4: Young from the Rangers or parade.
17:24
Speaker 3: Is from Houston C. J.
17:25
Speaker 4: Aburns would cost many good prospects to know, but you
17:27
Speaker 4: also have I think he's just a better player, right Like,
17:29
Speaker 4: So again, it depends on where do you go on
17:33
Speaker 4: the balance, And you're like, yeah, you're gonna have to
17:34
Speaker 4: give something up, but I don't know that you're gonna
17:36
Speaker 4: have to give up them a day mid day, Sorry
17:38
Speaker 4: day mid day.
17:39
Speaker 3: Hey SU's midday. That was the news yesterday.
17:42
Speaker 4: Uh, or you know, payin you I think you'd be
17:44
Speaker 4: able to give up a number of different guys, but
17:46
Speaker 4: they got a lot of those are decisions that Matt
17:48
Speaker 4: Arnold will go under, uh in the next couple of days.
17:51
Speaker 4: I did appreciate we got nine minutes of Brandon wood
17:53
Speaker 4: If audio from yesterday that Todd Rosiak posted Brandon Wooders
17:57
Speaker 4: is gonna make a smile for nine minutes. But I
17:59
Speaker 4: don't know if you check if you saw any of
18:01
Speaker 4: Hayesus Miday in his media conversation through the interpreter with
18:06
Speaker 4: the guys Drew nineteen years old, right yep, ridiculously business confident,
18:13
Speaker 4: was heyesus maday in that conversation that was That was
18:17
Speaker 4: one of my favorite things to watch. That kid was
18:19
Speaker 4: all business and he was awesome to be able to
18:23
Speaker 4: see handle.
18:23
Speaker 1: That ready in terms of, you know, mentally, emotionally, but
18:27
Speaker 1: just a little bit more seizing, perhaps.
18:29
Speaker 3: So stoic and calm. It was awesome.
18:31
Speaker 5: I think early and earlier, these these kids are amazing.
18:33
Speaker 5: Then they come up, they're more much, they're more ready
18:35
Speaker 5: obviously in college basketball and football, they're making money. They're
18:38
Speaker 5: professional athletes more than anything early on. So we also
18:41
Speaker 5: got to cut the other exciting Dominican shortstop obviously that
18:44
Speaker 5: we picked up Rickey Moneys.
18:46
Speaker 3: Yes Money.
18:46
Speaker 5: We got an official confirmation I think it was from
18:49
Speaker 5: a Calviy that it is Rickey Money's. That's his official name.
18:52
Speaker 5: Good people like there was a lot of people throwing
18:54
Speaker 5: around different versions of his name. Love that for a while.
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Speaker 1: be court side. It's the voice of the Badger's Matt Lapey. Hello, Matt,
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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us.
19:55
Speaker 3: How's it going boys, We are landing gears. Last half
19:59
Speaker 3: hour of the Friday Show. You know how it is.
20:03
Speaker 6: Happy hour starts at eight oh one.
20:06
Speaker 5: Yes, probably you're working tonight though, Yeah, yeah, Well for
20:10
Speaker 5: you guys.
20:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm leaving for Mexico tomorrow morning.
20:15
Speaker 3: Billy's going to Florida on Sunday. Yeah, landing gear is.
20:17
Speaker 4: Down, it'll be it'll be a good time to be
20:19
Speaker 4: able to escape and get some warm weather. Now, Matt,
20:22
Speaker 4: before we get into tonight, because tonight's gonna be in
20:24
Speaker 4: a phenomenal one. And what happened in Champagne, I feel
20:27
Speaker 4: like I'd be remiss to not ask you about last
20:28
Speaker 4: night before all of it. What what a night for
20:32
Speaker 4: the premiere of A road at night? And then how
20:34
Speaker 4: was it? Uh? I know it was going to be impactful,
20:37
Speaker 4: it always is, but it just had to be such
20:40
Speaker 4: a culmination of a lot of time put together here
20:44
Speaker 4: in the efforts for Howard Moore.
20:46
Speaker 7: Yeah, the people involved with it, obviously John Roach who
20:50
Speaker 7: put the documentary together, and his his team, Tim Valentine
20:54
Speaker 7: and Georgia, Pamela Hammel, everybody involved with that. And there
21:00
Speaker 7: were so there were a lot of Howard's teammates there
21:02
Speaker 7: last night. Actually Howard was there. There was a reception before,
21:04
Speaker 7: so it was it was great to see him, and
21:06
Speaker 7: I know he was excited to see so many people,
21:09
Speaker 7: especially you know, teammates and fellow coaches. And I've seen
21:13
Speaker 7: this documentary I feel like close to a dozen times,
21:17
Speaker 7: and it's it just hits me hard every time. So
21:20
Speaker 7: if it hits me hard, imagine what it's like for
21:23
Speaker 7: Howard's family, his basketball family. They had the panel afterwards
21:28
Speaker 7: with the Chris Conker, whose teammate of Howard's and coached
21:32
Speaker 7: a long time himself, Greg Guard and Drell, Howard's son,
21:37
Speaker 7: and that's only I think the second time he has
21:40
Speaker 7: seen it on a big theater screen. So again, try
21:45
Speaker 7: to imagine what that is like for for Jerrell. But
21:48
Speaker 7: he he's such a he's such a poised young man
21:51
Speaker 7: sophomore it Edgewood University here in Madison. But yeah, it's
21:56
Speaker 7: such an emotional documentary. But at the same time, you know,
22:01
Speaker 7: you see a lot of good, a lot of great
22:03
Speaker 7: in people too, the way they pulled together. And the
22:07
Speaker 7: showings will continue with panels tonight, Tomorrow and Sunday, and
22:12
Speaker 7: they're trying to run this thing beyond it, as you
22:14
Speaker 7: guys know, beyond next Thursday. But you want to be
22:17
Speaker 7: able to pack that theater over here Marcus Theater Points
22:21
Speaker 7: Cinema in Madison on Big Sky drive, so more people
22:25
Speaker 7: they get in there, the better chances this could have
22:27
Speaker 7: an extended run. Maybe get in Milwaukee at some point,
22:30
Speaker 7: maybe get in Chicago at some point, and just build
22:33
Speaker 7: momentum and the proceeds obviously helping the more family.
22:36
Speaker 1: When we talked to Stan van Gundi earlier this week,
22:38
Speaker 1: it was on Tuesday, he talked about just the impact
22:41
Speaker 1: and beyond the impact on his teammates and the beloved
22:43
Speaker 1: and stuff, but the impact on the program, playing and
22:46
Speaker 1: being on the ground floor of when the ascension and
22:49
Speaker 1: then recruiting guys that helped keep it going and it
22:52
Speaker 1: is it's hard to imagine somebody having a bigger impact
22:55
Speaker 1: on the program than he did.
22:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, as Stan said, nobody has. And I think he's right.
23:01
Speaker 7: And I love what Stan says in a documentary as
23:04
Speaker 7: well as a lot of interviews. And we throw the
23:06
Speaker 7: word culture around a lot, you know, roster retention. It's
23:10
Speaker 7: great culture. Yeah, sure, but it could be overused. But
23:14
Speaker 7: I do think the you know, the basic standards of
23:19
Speaker 7: Wisconsin basketball and what it stands for has as much
23:23
Speaker 7: to do with Howard as anything. You know, guys like
23:26
Speaker 7: Michael Finley and Tracy Webster and Rashard Griffith. You know,
23:30
Speaker 7: Howard was the Chicago you guys as Chicago as Howard
23:35
Speaker 7: is a Chicago guy and had more than a little
23:37
Speaker 7: to do with with bringing those guys into the fold.
23:40
Speaker 7: And and Howard's a guy to who appreciates the history.
23:43
Speaker 7: When he was on the staff, there'd always be that
23:45
Speaker 7: back and forth with you know, it's old school news
23:48
Speaker 7: school and we you know, he'd talk about the guy's
23:51
Speaker 7: opponents even in the eighties, nineties, and you know the
23:54
Speaker 7: current players like you know, because you could always you know,
23:58
Speaker 7: today's players are always more talented, right they say might
24:01
Speaker 7: be more athletically gifted. I'm not going to say they're
24:04
Speaker 7: all always better basketball players. So there would always be
24:07
Speaker 7: that kind of playful back and forth, spirited back and forth.
24:10
Speaker 6: So I think.
24:13
Speaker 7: He's just as as one of the pastors said the movie,
24:17
Speaker 7: in the documentary, there are exceptional people and then there's Howard.
24:20
Speaker 6: And I think that is as accurate align as there is.
24:23
Speaker 3: In a document I very well put.
24:25
Speaker 4: All we have is the way people remember us and
24:27
Speaker 4: and talk about us. And there's not one single bad
24:30
Speaker 4: word that's ever been said about Howard more and like
24:32
Speaker 4: that that ability to you mentioned it with the culture
24:34
Speaker 4: drew and guys like being able to then go on
24:39
Speaker 4: after you. You wonder how difficult that's been for the program.
24:42
Speaker 4: But I think, like just in the relationship business, Matt
24:45
Speaker 4: and and how you know, transactional to sport is now
24:48
Speaker 4: there's still spot for transformational, and there's there's a a
24:53
Speaker 4: thought like, wow, the way that they've been able to
24:56
Speaker 4: dive into the portal of how being able to set
24:59
Speaker 4: a groundwork of but then welcome people into the brotherhood.
25:03
Speaker 4: That does get set by by guys like Howard Moore,
25:05
Speaker 4: but Greg Gard has done a phenomenal job of being
25:07
Speaker 4: able to build off. But you do wonder how much
25:10
Speaker 4: that loss in the short term did impact them into
25:14
Speaker 4: just what that locker room, that building was like.
25:17
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is a you know, I think with regards
25:21
Speaker 7: to the to the portal, obviously you need skilled players
25:24
Speaker 7: and you have to compensate them, but they still try
25:26
Speaker 7: to get players who fit, you know, fit into the
25:30
Speaker 7: if they're here for one year or two or three
25:33
Speaker 7: or however many years. And the team, the current team
25:36
Speaker 7: was at the was in the theater last night, so
25:39
Speaker 7: it was in you know, the feeling was it was
25:41
Speaker 7: important for them to see it, and and that's you know,
25:44
Speaker 7: they obviously have a rather.
25:45
Speaker 6: Big game tonight.
25:46
Speaker 7: But I think, you know, the word perspective gets thrown
25:50
Speaker 7: around a lot too. But what defines a tough day
25:53
Speaker 7: or a tough stretch in sports, All as anybody around
25:56
Speaker 7: here has to do is think about what Howard Senior
25:58
Speaker 7: and trenis Howard dad and mom, brother Darnell obviously Drea,
26:03
Speaker 7: what they're going through.
26:04
Speaker 6: In fact, Greg and I were talking. Greg Gard and
26:06
Speaker 6: I were talking.
26:07
Speaker 7: We were recording something Wednesday afternoon, and you know, there
26:11
Speaker 7: wasn't a whole lot of sleep for the coach. There's
26:13
Speaker 7: guys and thinking our bad kind of dragon today. And
26:16
Speaker 7: then we were talking about the documentary and it's like, uh, yeah.
26:20
Speaker 6: We're good. You know, we're my first world issue here.
26:25
Speaker 6: We're fine.
26:26
Speaker 7: We'll get ready for the we meaning them, they'll get
26:29
Speaker 7: ready for the next game.
26:30
Speaker 3: We're getting ready for tonight.
26:31
Speaker 1: Matt Lapage joining his voice and the Badger's Badgers play
26:33
Speaker 1: Michigan State tonight. Billy and I were talking this morning
26:36
Speaker 1: about Tom Izzo and how he went from public enemy
26:38
Speaker 1: one and number one.
26:39
Speaker 3: Now he's unk. He's grandpa, he says, he.
26:42
Speaker 4: Spied him for so many years and now it's like
26:44
Speaker 4: hard to hate him.
26:45
Speaker 1: And so that transformation is kind of funny, Like it's
26:49
Speaker 1: not just in mid Madison, it's National League.
26:51
Speaker 3: There's a big test.
26:52
Speaker 1: Newborthy and then all these stories about Jeremy Fears for
26:56
Speaker 1: the Spartans being the new Brad Davison.
26:57
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a compliment a cut. I
26:59
Speaker 3: don't know.
27:00
Speaker 1: Davison takes that the guy that opposing teams love to
27:03
Speaker 1: hate and the fan bases love to hate.
27:05
Speaker 3: He's what is he like?
27:06
Speaker 1: You know, Grayson Allen meets Brad Davison, men version of
27:09
Speaker 1: the guy that who seems like he's been there for
27:11
Speaker 1: ten years and that you hate, Like what is the
27:14
Speaker 1: vibe with this Michigan State team?
27:16
Speaker 7: Yeah, Fears is a sophomore too, and uh, I think
27:19
Speaker 7: he's the latest. And I said this one when Brad
27:22
Speaker 7: was here another banking Grayson Allen at Duke. When he's
27:25
Speaker 7: on your team, you're gonna love him, and when he's
27:28
Speaker 7: not on your team, you're not going to love him.
27:30
Speaker 6: It's gonna be it's going to be the opposite.
27:32
Speaker 7: But I think if you took a an anonymous poll,
27:36
Speaker 7: say do you want this guy, this guy, this guy.
27:38
Speaker 7: It'd be close to one hundred percent in a second.
27:42
Speaker 7: Give me guys like that gives me. You know, they're different,
27:45
Speaker 7: they're different kind of players, you know, Brad and obviously
27:48
Speaker 7: Grayson Allen and Jeremy Fears. He's a great assist player,
27:52
Speaker 7: like nine assist a game. I mean, you know Fears,
27:55
Speaker 7: he is a terrific player. But it's just it's the
27:58
Speaker 7: classic sports Ville it and you know, maybe you lean
28:02
Speaker 7: into it a little bit, but I you know, you
28:05
Speaker 7: do any coach in America right now, Hey, Jeremy Fears
28:11
Speaker 7: you for whatever reason, he's a free agent after this year.
28:14
Speaker 6: You want him? Hell yeah, hell yeah.
28:17
Speaker 7: You take a guy like that and the other stuff,
28:21
Speaker 7: you know, And I think what also can happen is
28:24
Speaker 7: if if there are a couple of things that are legit,
28:27
Speaker 7: you know that that have gone on with Jeremy Fears.
28:29
Speaker 7: Tom always talked about it. But then everything you know,
28:32
Speaker 7: you can get. You can get every slappy in America
28:35
Speaker 7: on the phone doing the freeze frame of something that. Well,
28:38
Speaker 7: this leg is a little awkward here because people have
28:41
Speaker 7: a lot of time on their hands apparently, and stuff
28:43
Speaker 7: can get a little can be taken. Let's just say
28:46
Speaker 7: a little touch out of context. I'm not saying he's perfect.
28:49
Speaker 7: I'm not saying things they're over the line, things with
28:52
Speaker 7: Jeremy Fears, but he's a hell of a player.
28:55
Speaker 5: They seem like Michigan State has had a lot of
28:56
Speaker 5: those guys, and I suppose that's.
28:58
Speaker 2: The market starts with the head coach.
29:00
Speaker 3: I know that's a program. Mateen Cleeve Well, Mateen was tough,
29:05
Speaker 3: Drew Nizel.
29:06
Speaker 5: A lot of these guys that would like annoy you,
29:08
Speaker 5: but only because they beat you a lot.
29:10
Speaker 6: You know, it's because they're good.
29:11
Speaker 7: Like nobody's nobody rips on a guy because he's because
29:14
Speaker 7: he sucks. You know, it's like you have to be
29:17
Speaker 7: pretty good. It's the it's the the the backhanded compliment,
29:20
Speaker 7: and it is kind of It is interesting with Izzo,
29:22
Speaker 7: and I think the perception even over here has probably
29:26
Speaker 7: had at least something to do with the fact that
29:28
Speaker 7: Greg Garden Tom Izzo have a terrific relationship.
29:32
Speaker 6: You know. It's they'll you know, they'll talk during.
29:35
Speaker 7: You know, obviously maybe not the last couple of days,
29:37
Speaker 7: but during the season they'll connect. And Izo was here
29:41
Speaker 7: for one of the guarding against cancer galas matter of
29:43
Speaker 7: fact that it was last last spring. He was here
29:46
Speaker 7: for that, and you know, the Bow versus Izo thing
29:49
Speaker 7: that that had a little bit more, a little more
29:51
Speaker 7: spice to it because they were playing high stage games
29:55
Speaker 7: and trading punches, you know, literally, I mean not.
29:58
Speaker 6: In a figurative sense.
29:59
Speaker 7: They were ripping each other his hearts out with big
30:01
Speaker 7: wins and tough losses. And it's they've they've had those
30:05
Speaker 7: with with Greg Guard, but there it's just a different
30:07
Speaker 7: kind of a personal dynamic between those two guys. And
30:10
Speaker 7: I think, you know, is Tho's longevity and he says
30:14
Speaker 7: a lot of things that a lot of other coaches
30:16
Speaker 7: would want to say, want to say, was at a
30:20
Speaker 7: point where he's like, you know, yeah, I won't say
30:22
Speaker 7: and you can like it, not like it whatever. And
30:25
Speaker 7: when you've done it as long as he has as
30:27
Speaker 7: well as he has, I think he's earned that respect.
30:30
Speaker 3: He's got the license.
30:31
Speaker 1: Okay, So a lot of wind in the sails after
30:34
Speaker 1: after Illinois, this this Badger's team now to their credit,
30:37
Speaker 1: winning those games on the road, Michigan and Illinois coming back,
30:40
Speaker 1: you know, battling adversity, winning those games. What's it going
30:43
Speaker 1: to take for them to play from in front and
30:45
Speaker 1: not have to battle back. It's good teams because that's
30:48
Speaker 1: still the recipe that I like to see, and it's
30:51
Speaker 1: like what we lowed the comebacks, but also like, hey, let's.
30:54
Speaker 3: Avoid those those gaps, let's avoid those put you in
30:57
Speaker 3: the hole.
30:58
Speaker 6: It'd be nice to find out.
31:00
Speaker 7: Actually in the Ohio State game, which is one of
31:02
Speaker 7: those games you could qualify as a come back from
31:06
Speaker 7: ten down, but I think it was like fifteen to five,
31:08
Speaker 7: so it was early. They played with the lead for
31:12
Speaker 7: the majority of that game, and it was in that
31:14
Speaker 7: eight to ten twelve range most of the time. But
31:18
Speaker 7: that does seem to be the exception, I thought one
31:20
Speaker 7: of the keys. And it sounds a little weird because
31:23
Speaker 7: they didn't have a bad start against Illinois. They're with
31:26
Speaker 7: them and then all of a sudden, you look up,
31:27
Speaker 7: it's thirty nine thirty. You know, they got behind a
31:30
Speaker 7: little later, as opposed to some of these bad starts
31:33
Speaker 7: like the Minnesota game both times up there and down here,
31:37
Speaker 7: and you know a couple of other games where they
31:40
Speaker 7: you know, look like, oh, this could be bad. But
31:43
Speaker 7: I think they're at a point now they've just had
31:45
Speaker 7: so many close games and if they fall behind, you know,
31:49
Speaker 7: seeing is believing. They know they've done it. And if
31:52
Speaker 7: you I don't know if you want to do that
31:54
Speaker 7: against Michigan State necessarily as well as the Spartans defend.
31:58
Speaker 7: But I think they know just just chip away and
32:01
Speaker 7: the way they play you you hit a couple of
32:04
Speaker 7: threes and those ten point leads are four point leads.
32:07
Speaker 7: So I think there's enough confidence that if they get
32:10
Speaker 7: in that position again, they know what it takes.
32:13
Speaker 6: To get out of the mess.
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Speaker 1: The key is just don't put yourself in a position
32:16
Speaker 1: where two brutal calls by referees.
32:20
Speaker 3: Don't don't finish it.
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Speaker 7: Uh To be honest, you're going back to last week.
32:25
Speaker 7: I thought there were two or three calls before that
32:27
Speaker 7: that were worse there. It's the two calls in the end.
32:32
Speaker 7: Were the two calls in the end, But it's but again,
32:37
Speaker 7: Brad Underwood had some things to say. It is that
32:39
Speaker 7: time of year. I think people are getting a little
32:42
Speaker 7: more salty. The games seemingly carry more weight. But I
32:47
Speaker 7: do think, you know, beyond last Saturday, the league's got
32:52
Speaker 7: to be better. They need to be better with with
32:55
Speaker 7: with with officiating, I mean, you've got you've got teams
32:57
Speaker 7: that are really good in this conference right now and
33:00
Speaker 7: are playing for it. You got the tiers in the
33:03
Speaker 7: Big Ten, and you've got a lot of teams that
33:06
Speaker 7: are tournament worthy. In a handful of teams, you think
33:09
Speaker 7: they might win the whole thing. So the quality of
33:12
Speaker 7: play in the Big Ten is good, really good. You
33:15
Speaker 7: need a little, if possible, if you could do it.
33:18
Speaker 7: I don't know how many guys are racing to the
33:22
Speaker 7: independent contract your employment line to go work basketball games.
33:27
Speaker 6: But I don't think it's a deep, dark secret. No
33:30
Speaker 6: level of officiating needs to get better.
33:31
Speaker 4: But then at some point there needs to be a
33:33
Speaker 4: better training ground for him, right just like in the
33:35
Speaker 4: NFL or for guys that play four to five years
33:37
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Maybe make it a little bit quicker
33:40
Speaker 4: and easier for you to be on that stage where
33:42
Speaker 4: you know what the game's supposed to look like, you
33:44
Speaker 4: know what's supposed to feel like, instead of, Hey, we
33:47
Speaker 4: really appreciate those twelve years that you played in the NBA,
33:49
Speaker 4: but let's go now officiate some middle school ball. Then
33:52
Speaker 4: we'll get up to JV, then we'll go to varsity,
33:54
Speaker 4: then we'll grime through the ranks, make it a little
33:56
Speaker 4: easier for them to be able to get to that point.
33:58
Speaker 3: It might get a little bit better.
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Speaker 7: And you wonder too, I don't know if we'll ever
34:02
Speaker 7: see it, because they are independent contractors. You'll have officials
34:06
Speaker 7: work in Big ten games and they may be working
34:08
Speaker 7: Big twelve games later in the week or wherever. Yeah,
34:12
Speaker 7: can you just can they be full time in your league?
34:16
Speaker 7: I think people would like to see that. I don't
34:19
Speaker 7: know whether we will, but it's just, yeah, it's every year.
34:23
Speaker 7: I mean, this is my thirty eight season doing this stuff,
34:27
Speaker 7: and for thirty eight years I've heard this.
34:29
Speaker 6: This time of year.
34:30
Speaker 7: You start looking at how many games have these guys worked,
34:32
Speaker 7: and well, we'll see officials work four five games a week,
34:37
Speaker 7: you know, and not only you've got a five game homestand.
34:40
Speaker 6: You're you're all over the place. So that's that's a
34:42
Speaker 6: little bit tough too.
34:43
Speaker 3: The top guys.
34:44
Speaker 1: And I have a friend who's such a nerdy tracks
34:46
Speaker 1: this stuff, but the top guys, you'll see him doing
34:48
Speaker 1: a you know, a Pack twelve game and then the
34:50
Speaker 1: next night they're in Miami.
34:52
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Like that's just a human.
34:54
Speaker 1: They're not flying private, right, and it's like this is
34:57
Speaker 1: in the logistics of that, and it's the same a
35:00
Speaker 1: lot of times. It's the same guys that you see.
35:02
Speaker 1: And it's like in big games on TV, like, well,
35:04
Speaker 1: he was just there last night, he was there the
35:06
Speaker 1: night before, like, and of course they're going to miss
35:08
Speaker 1: some calls and they're going to be fried a little bit.
35:11
Speaker 6: Arman knows this.
35:12
Speaker 7: I mean, Ken Palm, you can track it. There's uh,
35:15
Speaker 7: their officials ratings based on the quality of game they get.
35:19
Speaker 7: Has probably got all that right now.
35:22
Speaker 2: Falls asleep with them.
35:25
Speaker 5: Hey, the ken Palm numbers for defense efficiency keep getting
35:28
Speaker 5: better for the Badgers. That's a good sign. So little
35:30
Speaker 5: stuff like that, you like to track the official stuff.
35:32
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, does.
35:33
Speaker 4: Ken Palm do numbers on when the broadcast team has
35:36
Speaker 4: matching outfits on?
35:37
Speaker 3: They don't have that one, But that's.
35:39
Speaker 2: A Saber metric they might need to work on.
35:41
Speaker 4: So you guys, you guys are locked in, right, you
35:42
Speaker 4: guys got everything coordinated for tonight because you guys can't
35:45
Speaker 4: can't vary after that win, they were one.
35:48
Speaker 7: And oh when we looked like twins, right, So as
35:50
Speaker 7: much as I could look like a guy I'm looking up,
35:53
Speaker 7: you know, a full foot taller than I am. So yeah,
35:56
Speaker 7: it's a big stripe out night too, so you gotta.
35:58
Speaker 3: Get oh, let's go coordinates.
36:00
Speaker 6: So important for the radio guys to be coordinated.
36:04
Speaker 4: Yes, because we're well, we'll be watching, we'll be seeing
36:06
Speaker 4: you guys down there.
36:07
Speaker 2: I got it.
36:07
Speaker 4: How does your hand feel? Was that your hand that
36:09
Speaker 4: caught the brunt of that? Brad Davison DApp after the game?
36:12
Speaker 7: Is he got Butchery and I was right the handshake
36:16
Speaker 7: line and he was. They were a little fired up,
36:18
Speaker 7: and it's like, okay, so yeah, I didn't have a
36:21
Speaker 7: lot of feeling there for about three or four hours.
36:24
Speaker 7: But you know, Brad, you know he's a strong dude,
36:27
Speaker 7: he's fit. He caught you.
36:29
Speaker 4: Clean and then there looked like there was a butchy
36:32
Speaker 4: you even dare slap me that hard?
36:34
Speaker 2: Brad. I could tell there was a little bit of
36:39
Speaker 2: a pull bag there on the Butcher one.
36:41
Speaker 3: But I'm proud that you took that for the program.
36:44
Speaker 6: Anything.
36:44
Speaker 3: I can't now that Billy's planted the seat.
36:46
Speaker 1: I have to watch to see if you and McCann
36:48
Speaker 1: and Butcher like have the stripe out going in the
36:50
Speaker 1: in the three.
36:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, where stripes just coming. Referee shirts.
36:58
Speaker 1: Probably be better than the ones on the floor, and
37:00
Speaker 1: say that minish your shifted foot locker and then go
37:02
Speaker 1: to the call set, Matt, have a great call tonight,
37:07
Speaker 1: have a great weekend, and we'll talk to you.
37:09
Speaker 6: Boys. Enjoy your trips, guys, take care.
37:11
Speaker 1: Of you, and Badgers can enjoy that game tonight. It's
37:14
Speaker 1: gonna be cool, so good, Big big Fox tonight. Yeah,
37:18
Speaker 1: and then the Varsity App. Now, the best thing is
37:20
Speaker 1: I didn't admit this to to Matt. I did fall
37:22
Speaker 1: asleep with Matt the other night.
37:24
Speaker 4: I did fall asleep with Matt on that Varsity app voice,
37:29
Speaker 4: so dull absolutely.
37:31
Speaker 1: Time to shut this place down. Closing ceremonies next to
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