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Fantasy Football Space Podcast - Sleepers and Breakouts - August 5th 2026 · Fantasy Football Spaces

0:18
SPEAKER_03: Sleepers might be the topic, but this episode sure won't be.
0:22
SPEAKER_03: These players that we talk about today are gonna be the ones that catapult you to the championships.
0:28
SPEAKER_03: And of course, if you don't listen, then you just might be fighting for well, maybe sixth place at best.
0:33
SPEAKER_03: Yo, what is going on, guys?
0:34
SPEAKER_03: I am Natter alongside the Tip and Nico.
0:37
SPEAKER_03: This is the Fantasy Football Space Podcast.
0:41
SPEAKER_03: And of course, the topic of discussion are sleepers.
0:44
SPEAKER_03: And then, of course, we're gonna sprinkle out the breakout players.
0:49
SPEAKER_03: Sorry for that.
0:50
SPEAKER_03: I had a moment lapse.
0:51
SPEAKER_03: But of course, Tip, I mean, how you doing over there?
0:54
SPEAKER_01: Oh, brother, I'm good, man.
0:56
SPEAKER_01: I mean, anytime I get to hang out with you guys and we can, you know, just talk some ball.
1:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm ready.
1:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm game, bro.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: Nico, come on, show me a little bit more energy than that.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm watching low.
1:08
SPEAKER_01: Wait, hold on.
1:09
SPEAKER_01: I thought that had a good energy to it.
1:11
SPEAKER_01: It had a little bit of ups and downs.
1:13
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're you know, look, we're talking sleepers, guys.
1:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, I was little.
1:17
SPEAKER_01: We're not talking snoozers.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: I love sleepers and breakouts.
1:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's probably gonna be one of my favorite segments.
1:23
SPEAKER_00: Snatter, I know you're you love the big name guys, the Jameer Gibbs, the Bijons, yeah, based on Kyle Pitts.
1:32
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, we got that best ball draft we got cooking.
1:35
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if any of oh, we should talk about it at some point, but anyways, carry on.
1:39
SPEAKER_03: I I just want to make it known.
1:40
SPEAKER_03: And of course, you know, we have a best ball draft for the league, and I feel like such a scumbag because it just happened to be my pick when the draw the news dropped.
1:50
SPEAKER_03: And I I took Stefan Diggs in like the ninth round.
1:52
SPEAKER_03: Like, hey I'm sorry, guys.
1:54
SPEAKER_03: You know what?
1:54
SPEAKER_03: I felt kind of bad, not really, but I feel like I just uh just took a breakout player in a way.
2:00
SPEAKER_00: I like it, I like it, and we'll we'll obviously dive into it, but um yeah, the listeners league uh best ball draft is going pretty well, it's moving a little slow, but looks like we've made it through not almost nine rounds, so we're almost halfway there.
2:16
SPEAKER_03: And of course, you know, today we're gonna be going over the news and notes because tomorrow, like this episode, of course, is let's see, August 5th on a Wednesday.
2:25
SPEAKER_03: And of course, I always want to remind everybody that we are live on YouTube, Twitch, Twitter, and of course, soon to be on Instagram as well.
2:34
SPEAKER_03: And of course, you're gonna want to check us out at FFSpace on all handles, and of course, we have a link here where you can find all of our uh social media and all of our content related to it.
2:45
SPEAKER_03: And of course, we are live, like I said, on YouTube at 9 p.m.
2:50
SPEAKER_03: Eastern Standard Time.
2:51
SPEAKER_03: And of course, you want to join the the comments, the discussion, you want to see uh any questions, you want to see your comments on the screen, and of course, you want to debate us on any takes, feel free to do so because you guys already know I like arguing.
3:04
SPEAKER_03: So when I say a player's trash and you disagree, I expect you to kind of say it in the comments down below.
3:09
SPEAKER_03: But of course, we have a jam-packed episode with the news and notes leading us off.
3:23
SPEAKER_00: NFL headlines guys, we have football on TV tomorrow night.
3:33
SPEAKER_00: We have Kelly's Cardinals, yeah.
3:36
SPEAKER_00: Tomorrow night, we have in the Hall of Fame game, we have Kelly's Cardinals going up against someone's Carolina Panthers.
3:44
SPEAKER_00: Um listen, the news over the past week has been so heavy.
3:50
SPEAKER_00: So let's just dive into it.
3:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, just today, broke today, Stefan Diggs signs with the Commanders.
3:57
SPEAKER_00: Uh, one-year contract, reportedly worth up to 12 million.
4:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he joins Terry McLaurin and gives Jaden Daniels another proven target um after he had over a thousand yards last year with uh the Patriots.
4:11
SPEAKER_00: Bijon Robinson signs a record-setting contract extension.
4:18
SPEAKER_00: Show me the monies.
4:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh Atlanta signed uh Bijan to a three-year extension worth up to 75 million uh with 51 million guaranteed.
4:28
SPEAKER_00: The deal runs through 2030 and makes him the league's highest paid running back by annual value.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: Well deserved, young man.
4:36
SPEAKER_00: Uh Zay Flowers lands a four-year,$140 million extension.
4:44
SPEAKER_01: It's all about everything around me.
4:48
SPEAKER_00: It is all about the monies.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh Baltimore extended flowers through the 2031 season.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh, the deal reportedly includes 108 mil guaranteed and carries an average value of 35 mil per season.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: Natter's boy, slick Rick, Ricky Pearsall will miss the entire 2026 season.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: The 49ers, uh that's tough news for them.
5:13
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they got a lot going on over there.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: They're, you know, dealing with a lot of injuries.
5:17
SPEAKER_00: Evans is dealing with a quad strain, Christian Kirk, a calf strain, uh, Deshaun Stribling, a hamstring.
5:24
SPEAKER_00: Both Calen Black and Jordan James are sidelined with a groin and rib fracture.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: It's just never-ending for these guys.
5:32
SPEAKER_00: Um, not the lines.
5:39
SPEAKER_03: Not the electrical lines.
5:40
SPEAKER_03: I told you guys, like it's just gonna happen with them.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: Dude, that's that's just tough luck for the Niners, man.
5:47
SPEAKER_00: But maybe there is a theory.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: What is the theory, Natty?
5:49
SPEAKER_00: T Natter, tell the people.
5:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you live out there.
5:52
SPEAKER_01: Tell us about this thing.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: Okay, what's going on out there?
5:54
SPEAKER_03: The theory is, if I understand the gist of it, um, is that the practice field is right next to some heavy-duty electrical field, not just normal uh voltage, but like incredibly high voltage, and being exposed to that type of voltage and current around you for so long, for some odd reason it has a negative effect on the body, making you more prone to injuries.
6:20
SPEAKER_03: And of course, when Shanahan has such uh uh intense practices that only just adds all that more pressure bang and problems that get on the body.
6:31
SPEAKER_03: And I mean, like I I don't fully believe it, obviously, but it's uh it's funny to like lean into it, but there is an issue with the Niners and injuries because it's only them and it happens every year to them at the same time.
6:44
SPEAKER_03: Or the second theory is that Christian McCaffrey is just uh is just siphoning uh the life force out of everybody on the team in order to ensure he stays healthy on the year.
6:55
SPEAKER_03: So at this point, I'm just going for a RB1 season out of Christian McCaffrey.
7:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean he's the one that's healthy, right?
7:03
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
7:03
SPEAKER_03: See how is it coincidence?
7:05
SPEAKER_03: Coincidence?
7:06
SPEAKER_03: Coincidence, yeah.
7:07
SPEAKER_03: Coincidence.
7:09
SPEAKER_01: Hey, wait, wait, wait, but hold on, but hold on, hold on.
7:11
SPEAKER_01: Because so now you're telling me that all the comic books are selling us a bill of goods because anytime somebody had electrical currents going through their bodies and they had all this, like it they they were like the superhuman strength type person, like think of people like Storm, Thor, that dude Jamie Foxx played that like they all were like these electromagnetic superhumans, and it and so you're telling me it has the reverse effect?
7:38
SPEAKER_03: Well, think about it this way like they all got shocked by lightning, they're just around it.
7:43
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's like when you're around the aura of somebody who has immense power, you might get a little uh side effects of it, and that's a side effect, they're just hurt all the time.
7:53
SPEAKER_03: It's an issue.
7:54
SPEAKER_03: Let me give you an example.
7:56
SPEAKER_03: Let me give you an example.
7:57
SPEAKER_03: I was uh fortunate enough to go to the World Cup game that was in the Niner Stadium at Santa Clara, and their practice stadium is right next to this actual stadium.
8:08
SPEAKER_03: So when we were walking around the stadium, uh we saw the the actual you know, of course, the practice field, and then we saw the the the of course the the electrical field or whatever they call it.
8:18
SPEAKER_03: And let me tell you, as soon as I saw it, my arm started to hurt.
8:21
SPEAKER_03: That's all I'm saying.
8:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh damn.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so it is a real so so so I you know you remember back in the days.
8:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I grew up in the 80s so or 90s, really.
8:30
SPEAKER_01: So you've been had that that had that ball where it had that static electricity thing.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: So I just imagine everybody walking around like with their hair or like standing up and they and like in that clo the closer you get to it.
8:43
SPEAKER_01: It that's that's crazy, dude.
8:45
SPEAKER_01: I that I've never heard of anything, and they need to move that stadium if that's the case.
8:49
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they need to move it for or move for away from like the fact that the sun just shines right on top of it.
8:55
SPEAKER_03: Um, the fact you can't go to a Niners game during the day, it's it's impossible.
8:59
SPEAKER_03: You can't do it.
9:00
SPEAKER_00: That's wild.
9:00
SPEAKER_00: That's why you'd think maybe they'd all like turn into the flash or something and just get some superpowers.
9:05
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying, right?
9:06
SPEAKER_01: Like 6 power, right?
9:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, anyways, uh San Francisco is clearly going through it.
9:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, hopefully they all get healthy.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, Patrick Mahomes continues targeting a week one return uh from his ACL and LCL injuries.
9:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh the preseason, like I mentioned earlier, uh begins with the Panthers versus Cardinals.
9:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh, worth noting, um, Carson Beck will get the start.
9:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh, there's been a lot of buzz around him uh in Cardinal training camp, which I'm sure we'll uh catch up with Kelly on later in the show.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: And Jeremiah Love is not expected to play, so we will not be seeing him.
9:44
SPEAKER_00: So we will not be seeing him, probably smart, but it'll be good to see kind of what Carson Beck can bring to the table.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: He has, you know, he has been getting a lot of buzz in camp.
9:54
SPEAKER_00: I'll just say that based on the Twitter sphere.
9:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, some other quick hitters, Kenneth Walker.
9:59
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he's been trying raving reviews for his receiving ability in Chiefs camp.
10:03
SPEAKER_00: AJ Brown has reportedly developed really good chemistry uh with Drake May early on.
10:08
SPEAKER_00: Daniel Jones uh has now produced several strong practices while returning from his Achilles.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: Uh Natter's boy, Tank Dell, is practicing.
10:16
SPEAKER_00: Uh Jaden Higgins looking really solid in camp.
10:19
SPEAKER_00: Uh something tells me we might talk a little bit more about him later.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: Eagles wide receiver Mikai Lemon has missed considerable time uh with a recurring hamstring issue, those soft tissue issues.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: Uh Alec Pierce remains limited while recovering from offseason ankle.
10:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh Kyle Manungay has missed multiple practice with an undisclosed injury.
10:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh Jonathan Brooks looking good and strong in camp.
10:43
SPEAKER_00: And DJ Moore uh and Josh Allen are kind of lighting it up right now.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: A lot of reports of you know, more looking really solid at camp with Josh Allen.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: I might have to, I'm I'm pretty low on DJ Moore.
10:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, I think his efficiency has really dipped, and you know, I'm not all that confident in a 29-year-old wide receiver who you know is going to a situation and a quarterback that loves to spread the wealth.
11:09
SPEAKER_00: So I might need to tweak that ranking, but that's why our rankings are always um, you know, able to be adjusted, if you will.
11:18
SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, guys, uh tip nadter.
11:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh, what what stands out to you guys from the news and notes?
11:22
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, it's a lot.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: Training camp is buzzing.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: Uh, anything worth noting on either of your ends?
11:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, there's a ton of stuff.
11:30
SPEAKER_01: No, I'll go ahead and start.
11:32
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, yeah.
11:33
SPEAKER_01: You you be quiet, Natter.
11:34
SPEAKER_01: Um for once.
11:37
SPEAKER_01: Uh no, no, so so what speaks to me, uh I I think Nico might be onto something with Kenneth Walker, uh, the third here.
11:47
SPEAKER_01: I you know, me and Natter both scoffed at him whenever he said that he thinks Kenneth Walker can be the or had him ranked at number seven.
11:58
SPEAKER_01: And you know, if if he is pass catching uh during practices or during you know training camp, and I heard Andy Reid also say he is a better pass catcher than we thought, then and you're pat you're you're catching passes from Patrick Mahomes.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: I like yeah, I think you might be on to something, uh Nico.
12:23
SPEAKER_01: You're talking about adjustment rankings.
12:25
SPEAKER_01: I think I might have to.
12:26
SPEAKER_01: And then the other one, too.
12:28
SPEAKER_01: Um man, it's it the Mikhaye Lemon one's disappointing, man, because that's the one, that's the one, that's the one guy that you know, I'm like out of the rookies, I'm super comfortable taking him.
12:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I have been taking him in a couple of drafts, and now you got to deal with this, and and you know, hamstrings are tricky, you know.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: You said uh hamstring tissue issues.
12:51
SPEAKER_01: Those things are very tricky, and it sucks, man.
12:55
SPEAKER_01: I I just hope it's not a reoccurring or lingering thing.
12:59
SPEAKER_00: What about you, Natter?
13:01
SPEAKER_03: I think that some of the biggest ones is probably going to be the Patrick Mahomes targeting week one return.
13:06
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that just elevates the whole passing game on that team.
13:09
SPEAKER_03: You know, it just reinforces the Rasheed Rice, Travis Kelsey, uh, Kenneth Walker, like you mentioned.
13:15
SPEAKER_03: Um, because if Justin Fields is the quarterback week one, they're cook, they're in real trouble, especially for your fantasy team.
13:21
SPEAKER_03: Uh the second one is obviously gonna be Ricky Pursaw.
13:24
SPEAKER_03: You know, he was a huge discussion of a breakout player, and the problem is it's not just him hurt, it's Mike Evans, uh Christian Kirk, uh, the rookie, and of course now Pursaw.
13:35
SPEAKER_03: So at this point, whoever's hydrating properly on the Niners uh is moving up my draft boards.
13:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, we gotta talk about Diggs.
13:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, I love this signing for Diggs.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: I, you know, I was very adamant that I felt that the you know commanders were gonna be the best fit for him.
13:53
SPEAKER_00: I thought maybe the Colts, but commanders were kind of my leading candidate, if you will.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: You know, I put some information out on X about it, and I just love the signing for Diggs.
14:02
SPEAKER_00: I view him as a strong wide receiver three.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he was seventh in yards per outrun, third in first downs per outrun, 13th in yards per um target, fifth in EPX, and he just didn't get the opportunities with New England.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: You know, he was 61st in route participation, 82nd in snap share.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: And I know old man tip from episode two didn't really remiss.
14:27
SPEAKER_00: He didn't remiss that's who it was.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: I forgot who it was.
14:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Uncle Remus.
14:34
SPEAKER_00: He did not like my pick.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, in when we did our grumpy old man section back in episode two.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: But you know, here we are, and he's instantly gonna be inserted um into the wide receiver two slot for the Manders and will be the second pass catching option.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: We'll definitely have to be adjusting my rankings.
14:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, probably move Chig down um a few slots.
14:55
SPEAKER_00: And lastly, also that contract for flowers is wild to me.
15:00
SPEAKER_03: Undeserved, you know what I mean?
15:02
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it it's just it it's inflation, man.
15:05
SPEAKER_00: But, anyways, that's a wrap on uh news and notes.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's move on to sleepers sleepers.
15:22
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna have like a yarn, but I can't even do it because that was actually really cool.
15:25
SPEAKER_01: I like that.
15:26
SPEAKER_03: When I was creating the drop, I had one with like metal music and it just didn't mesh up or EDM music.
15:32
SPEAKER_01: Also, that would have been that would have been actually pretty funny, though.
15:36
SPEAKER_01: Some crazy, it's like crazy ass metal tune, and then all of a sudden, sleepers.
15:41
SPEAKER_03: Well, before we go into the sleepers, do you guys want to go into some of the comments?
15:44
SPEAKER_03: We got a couple questions, and oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:46
SPEAKER_03: Let's do it.
15:46
SPEAKER_00: Let's do yeah, we got some questions.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: Let's see what they got.
15:49
SPEAKER_03: So let's see.
15:49
SPEAKER_03: Starry Skies asks, nice name by the way, on Twitch.
15:53
SPEAKER_03: How do you feel about Chase Brown as my RB2 in the second round?
15:56
SPEAKER_03: I picked Jonathan Taylor in the first.
15:58
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I really like we all I think are all big fans of Chase Brown as an RB2, especially if you have him as an RB2.
16:05
SPEAKER_03: Now, we're not, I mean, I'm not personally the biggest fan of Jonathan Taylor, but I mean, if they're your tandem combo, I think you're saying pretty.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I've done about 15 drafts so far between best ball, mock drafts, and you know, some actual drafts.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, my draft strategy, which we're gonna go into a little bit more next week, it is very revolved around there's a lot of value at the wide receiver and quarterback position as the draft goes on.
16:33
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so making sure that you take some of these elite top 10, you know, top 12 running backs early on in your draft is gonna be really imperative.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, I I mean that's a stellar start.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: Um, now you can continue to draft or target, if you will, uh, some of those middling wide receivers in that like 15 to 25 range that have breakout potential, which we're actually gonna go into a little bit later in the show.
16:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and if I can just put in my two cents for Starrice guys, like that is a bang up job.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's what you that's what I've been preaching here in the last maybe month or so is you want to get in the first three rounds, you want to get two of those top one to 15 running back or those top 15 running backs.
17:17
SPEAKER_01: So that's what you want because now you're setting yourself up because the drop is so heavy after uh after about the third or fourth round, like you sitting pretty, you know.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: And the Jonathan Taylor thing, the you know, even if he gets a little bit banged up and he might miss a game or so, you still got a workhorse and a guy like Chase Brown, and vice versa.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: You just hope both of them don't get hurt, and we're not gonna wish that up on you because that was a hell of a draft start.
17:44
SPEAKER_00: Was there one more?
17:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's a couple more, actually, I believe.
17:47
SPEAKER_03: So J Cut 4 has to rate my team 12-man snake draft, two flex spots, pick eight standard league.
17:54
SPEAKER_03: That's a lot, that's a mouthful.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: If you that means no PPR, right?
17:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, standard leagues, not who plays in that still?
18:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, actually, I have one league in it.
18:02
SPEAKER_03: Honestly, more fun anyway.
18:04
SPEAKER_03: Fair show it back up.
18:05
SPEAKER_03: I can't read the names.
18:06
SPEAKER_03: Amon Ross St.
18:07
SPEAKER_03: Brown, Derek Henry, ETN, two and that's a lot of running backs.
18:11
SPEAKER_03: You can't start all of them.
18:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Udunze, Kraft, Parker Washington, Dowell, Gainwell, Dubs, Golden, Chris Rodriguez, Jordan, love.
18:24
SPEAKER_03: I think you're a Packers fan.
18:28
SPEAKER_03: I think I think it's clear you're a Packers fan.
18:30
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, I mean, dot, yeah.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, listen, with I mean, no PPR, Derek Henry even moves further up the rankings with ETN.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we didn't talk about it in the news and notes, but there have been reports that uh Kamara's been, you know, taking all the third down reps.
18:49
SPEAKER_00: So obviously, you know, he gets a small step up, if you will.
18:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, we pulled down the comments, so I don't remember the rest of the team.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I really like it uh for the most part.
19:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's it's got some depths, depth, the running back position is deep.
19:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh, the only critique I would have is I'm not loving the double dip between Tootin and Chris Rodriguez.
19:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm a big fan of not handcuffing my own running backs, but handcuffing other teams' running backs because if you do that and say something happens to their running back, it only gives you even more upside to you know, maybe sell high on that player, get a good return, or just get yourself another running back.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: But that's part of my draft strategies.
19:34
SPEAKER_00: I don't typically handcuff my own, I handcuff other people's.
19:39
SPEAKER_03: It's I think handcuffing your own running back is a safety play.
19:42
SPEAKER_03: I feel like it's a playing not to lose instead of playing to win.
19:46
SPEAKER_03: I guess that's the only difference in the mentality of uh handcuffing your own running backs.
19:51
SPEAKER_03: My only critique is drafting four running backs back to back to back.
19:54
SPEAKER_03: You can only start three.
19:55
SPEAKER_03: Actually, no.
19:56
SPEAKER_03: Well, it was a two-flex, it was a two-flex lease.
20:00
SPEAKER_03: You can start all four.
20:01
SPEAKER_03: You know what?
20:01
SPEAKER_03: At that point, maybe maybe he's correct.
20:03
SPEAKER_03: That's probably the best way to do it, considering uh yeah.
20:05
SPEAKER_03: I mean, good squad of all four, right?
20:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, actually, you know what?
20:08
SPEAKER_03: Solid draft.
20:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the only the only the only critique I have is having Jordan have all in that all those hands in that green bay pot.
20:16
SPEAKER_01: I am high on on Matthew Golden.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: We'll talk about him later.
20:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm high on on Tucker Kraft.
20:21
SPEAKER_01: It's just Jordan.
20:22
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's just kind of uh sometimes some he'll have those games where he'll have like 170, 180, maybe 200 yards and like one touchdown and one interception or two intercepts.
20:33
SPEAKER_01: He just doesn't do enough for me.
20:35
SPEAKER_01: Maybe he was maybe the the receiver room was too crowded, and maybe they needed to you know get these receivers going as far as that.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: I I I just don't know.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: I I'm not too too fond of Jordan Love.
20:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, yeah, that's that's my own.
20:48
SPEAKER_00: From a fantasy, from a fantasy standpoint, yeah.
20:51
SPEAKER_00: Like he's a I think he's a really good real life quarterback, but yeah, from a fantasy standard.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: He's a good manager of the game, but from a fantasy standpoint, like I want I want dudes, I don't want managers of the game.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: I want guys who are gonna give me some points and and you know, and manage the game.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: I want both.
21:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they love to ground it maybe that's a little maybe that's a little, yeah.
21:10
SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's a little um you know far-fetched, but that that's what you really want out of these quarterbacks.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: But we got more questions, right?
21:18
SPEAKER_00: So let's we should probably hop into some sleepers here.
21:21
SPEAKER_05: We do not.
21:22
SPEAKER_01: Uh Nico's Nico's falling asleep.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: No, okay.
21:26
SPEAKER_00: We got a lot to talk about today.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: Well, we do, and we got to talk about some sleepers that are in the fantasy that the fantasy community could be sleeping on.
21:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, because every every year, you know, you got those ones that are touted and say, Oh, this is gonna be the sleeper.
21:41
SPEAKER_01: This is gonna, but we're gonna try and talk about some players that maybe aren't being talked about so much.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: And what we're gonna do is we're gonna take turns doing it.
21:48
SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna start with Nico because Nico's already got my eyebrows raised about this guy.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: I know exactly why, but I'm gonna tell you why it'll all be.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: All right.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: And it's just truly based on value and it's based on ADP.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to talk about JK Dobbins.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh, currently he has a 87th overall ADP.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Dobbins continues to be one of the NFL's most efficient runners when he's healthy, and I cannot stop drafting him.
22:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh, in 10 games last season, he turned 164 touches into 108 or 809 scrimmage yards.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: He averaged 4.9 yards per touch, 5.1 yards per carry.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: And the strongest argument for me for Dobbins is that he remained pretty explosive despite multiple injuries throughout his career.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he had a 117.2 explosive rating, which was seventh amongst running backs, uh, with 21 explosive plays and 12 breakaway runs.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: Now, his receiving profile is definitely limited.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: Like he only had a 4.3% target share, ran 78 routes.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, but he's not really the projected receiving back.
23:00
SPEAKER_00: That's going to be more RJ Harvey on third down.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, but Dobbins, when he was healthy last year in those 10 games, he handled 62.3 percent of the opportunity share.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: He averaged 15.3 carries per game, and he controlled all of Denver's early down work.
23:18
SPEAKER_00: The Broncos re-signed him, they wanted him back on a two-year contract, and I fully expect him to be the early down and red zone back.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: And Dobbins does not need like a you know, three down role to return on his value, he needs the approximate 15 to 20 carries, red zone involvement, and just continuing his efficiency.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: Like right now, I view him as a legitimate back end RB2, and he's going uh looks like the 32nd running back off the board.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: I personally rank him as my 28th, and for that reason, uh to me, he's a steal at ADP.
24:01
SPEAKER_03: Matter, go ahead.
24:03
SPEAKER_03: So last year we had um, I think it was Chubba Hubbard off the top of my head.
24:08
SPEAKER_03: That was that.
24:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh no, Tony Pollard was it?
24:11
SPEAKER_03: Uh one of those two where they, you know what, they were drafted what ninth round ADP, 10th round ADP, and they were the surprise, not uh actually, yeah, I shouldn't even say the surprise of the draft.
24:23
SPEAKER_03: They were the man, how do we let them like slip that far?
24:26
SPEAKER_03: Like I what was I thinking letting them go that far?
24:29
SPEAKER_03: And I feel like JK Dobbins could be one of those players that has us going back at the end of the year and us thinking, man, like why didn't I think of it?
24:38
SPEAKER_03: And that's why we're telling you exactly that's why we're telling you.
24:42
SPEAKER_03: Just listen to Nico, I told you, and uh I think JK Dobbins honestly, uh his value with the ADP, the the Arista reward, insane.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, I I I beg to differ, and I'm gonna tell you why.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: I it Sean it's two words.
25:00
SPEAKER_01: I don't know his middle name, but I'm pretty sure it's evil.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I I don't want him on my team.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't want any Bronco.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: I I'll I'll settle for Jalen Waddle.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: That will be the only other than IDP, uh, may get some players on that, but I uh Jalen Waddle is the only person on offense I'm willing to take.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at JK Dobbins right now, and I'm looking at players that are ranked underneath him as far as running backs go.
25:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh Kyle Manungay, I'd rather have him.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: Jonathan Brooks, I'd rather have him.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: Rashad Wright, I'd rather have him.
25:30
SPEAKER_01: I I don't like Kenneth Gainwell is just above him uh in the rankings that I'm looking at.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: And I I would I I would I would no I would rather have I I would rather have any of those guys.
25:42
SPEAKER_01: Uh Blake Horm is that's the question mark because I know everybody's talking about him.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: Um, I would probably consider Dobbins over there, but that's just out of desperation where I maybe went real real heavy on wide receivers in a draft, and and but I'm not gonna do that.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: But I I just won't feel comfortable enough with JK Dobbins, man.
26:01
SPEAKER_01: I I don't and yeah, I don't.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I just think if you're getting a a value at seventh, eighth round of your 12-team drafts and you're able to get a I don't want to call him a workhorse because I do think RJ Harvey is gonna be the third down back, but if you're getting a guy that's you know 15 to 20 touches and red zone carries and is efficient, which he proved last year, uh it's a great value.
26:24
SPEAKER_00: So and I I I truthfully cannot stop drafting him.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm not worried about him yet.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: You're not worried about dynasty, good dynasty pick, but I'm not worried about him just yet.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: I think he'll have a lot of value if and potentially if Dobbins.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was gonna say if and when, but like when Dobbins eventually gets hurt.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: But the other thing about this too, guys, is like you can draft JK Dobbins and after he has like maybe five or six really good weeks, sell high on him, you know, knowing the injury history.
26:54
SPEAKER_00: Like, I just think in the seventh, eighth round, if you're drafting a guy that, like I said, you know, if he stays healthy, can you know average uh 60, 70 yards a game, you know, get in the end zone.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think there's a lot of value there versus like a monung guy who's gonna be splitting a backfield with a Swift.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but it okay.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: I he's gonna be splitting the backfield with another guy.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: Sean Payton might have him split split the backfield with like four different it's just it's just so weird how he does his thing with his running back since he's been in Denver.
27:25
SPEAKER_01: And I'm I mean, I don't know.
27:26
SPEAKER_01: It's just but but you know what I do know about I do know I do know about Ryan Flournoy, and I I I'll tell you what, he is a part-time player, just like just like just like we, you know, are basically talking about with some of these sleepers.
27:39
SPEAKER_01: But I will say this last year, 37 of the snap share, which was very, very low.
27:44
SPEAKER_01: That's a part-time player, but he actually had some decent numbers behind it 470 yards and four touchdowns.
27:51
SPEAKER_01: And I think that that can project into this year.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: This year, he's actually projected to be the wide receiver three slash their slot guy.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: And if he's gonna be their primary slot guy with CD Lamb and George Pickens also running around that field as well, I just really like the fact that Floronoy could get some easy pass catches.
28:10
SPEAKER_01: He's a big frame, six foot one, two oh five.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: So he's a big frame slot guy.
28:15
SPEAKER_01: And I think that, you know, while everybody at first was talking about Ricky Pearsall until he got hurt, I think this is the guy here.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: I think this is the guy that can actually do something, make some noise.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: And if one of the guys gets hurt, CD Lamb or uh George Pickens, then I I I gotta say he's on a wide receiver two on a very, very, very high-powered offense.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: And you know, so I really like Robert Ford on it.
28:40
SPEAKER_01: His ADP right now is sitting around 250, uh, anywhere from 250 to 255.
28:45
SPEAKER_01: So I really like I really like his value, and then he's a deep sleeper.
28:50
SPEAKER_03: Talk about deep sleeper.
28:52
SPEAKER_03: We we're talking about sleepers, not like sleepers.
28:54
SPEAKER_01: This is the sleeper, sleeper deep sleeper matter.
28:57
SPEAKER_03: They're both the sleeper.
29:01
SPEAKER_03: Don't say his ADP is 255, just say undrafted.
29:04
SPEAKER_03: You pick him up on the waiver wire.
29:06
SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say, like, how big is your week?
29:08
SPEAKER_03: That's like 21 rounds.
29:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like even like a best ball, you're not gonna find him just drafted.
29:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, no, I'm well, I've I'll tell you what, I've drafted him in every draft, except for this one that I'm probably gonna pick him up in this last round, by the way.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: I've drafted him in every one of my rounds, dude.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: I've got you want pieces of you want piece, you want any piece of this Dallas Cowboy offense that you can get your hands on.
29:31
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he's 27, he's turning 27 in October.
29:34
SPEAKER_03: He has no physical traits that jump out at you.
29:40
SPEAKER_03: Sure.
29:41
SPEAKER_03: I he knows how to you're gonna waste a roster spot on that.
29:45
SPEAKER_03: I'd rather a hate.
29:46
SPEAKER_03: Like, really.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: I can respect it because of how deep it is, and tip does make a lot of valid points.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: Like, if CD, but that's the thing, like his value is in my opinion, gonna be contingent on if Pickens or CD gets hurt, like there has to be an injury for him to slide up that depth chart.
30:04
SPEAKER_00: You still got Jake Ferguson, Hoggins stuff up, like you know.
30:07
SPEAKER_00: I uh I mean he did have some weeks, only he did have some weeks, like I'll give you that.
30:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: It's just I mean, how about this, y'all?
30:17
SPEAKER_00: If you're in uh 22-round leagues, draft uh floor no way in the 18th or 19th round.
30:24
SPEAKER_00: No, but I respect it.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's about as deep as it gets, and I respect it.
30:29
SPEAKER_01: I can get I can well okay, okay.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: I can't.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: Uh what do you got, Matter?
30:37
SPEAKER_03: So Jaden Reed, and let me tell you, this is the guy that in 2024 averaged 11 and a half fantasy points per game, half point PPR.
30:46
SPEAKER_03: And you're telling me that after a what was it like a collarbone injury?
30:50
SPEAKER_03: I forgot the injury of last year where he only played seven games.
30:53
SPEAKER_03: You're gonna tell me that he isn't gonna assume the wide receiver one role out of somebody drafted in like the late 10th to early 11th round.
31:02
SPEAKER_03: You're kidding me.
31:03
SPEAKER_03: You're kidding me.
31:03
SPEAKER_03: That's Jaden Reed.
31:04
SPEAKER_03: He is the guy that routes people up, he's the route technician on the team, he is the intermediate threat that Jordan Love absolutely adores.
31:13
SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say Jordan Love loves, but I couldn't do that today.
31:16
SPEAKER_03: But this is the guy that has the best matchups, he has a very strong repertoire of a route tree, and this guy is somebody that the coaching staff loves.
31:25
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you were we're talking about a guy that was drafted in the second round.
31:29
SPEAKER_03: There isn't too much of an argument for uh that I have other than this guy, he's good at football and he should be drafting it.
31:39
SPEAKER_01: I I I like it, it's just you know the injury scene, but when he plays, he's he's on.
31:44
SPEAKER_01: I I have no problem with him at all because he is and there's there's less mouth to feed, so that's even gonna be even better for him because now you can utilize him in multiple ways.
31:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I I think that I think they did themselves a solid getting rid of some of those wide receivers, uh Green Bay did.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: So I like yeah, I don't know.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: To me, Jaden Reed just screams four for 40 with no upside.
32:09
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
32:10
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, like and I'll be honest, I'll be honest with you.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: Like, I I did like him last year, like I was targeting him, you know, in drafts, and I just I let's just say this.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we'll probably talk about it a little bit later, but I'm more on the Christian Watson bandwagon um than I am Jaden Reed.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: I I think Jaden Reed's like you said, he's a good route runner, you know, he he's a good possession guy, like he's good at you know moving the sticks on third down, he's a go-to guy, he can make some big plays, you know.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: It's just even when he was healthy last year, like his targets were what four, six, three, and four, and they were all for like anywhere between 35 to 50 yards.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: So hence why I was like just screams four for 40 for me.
32:53
SPEAKER_03: He was hurt, he was playing as a decoy last year.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I get it, I get it.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: I I like it.
32:59
SPEAKER_01: I just read somebody's comments about I don't know how JK Dobbins will ever have 10 to 4 to 14 touchdowns, but okay.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: Well, I never said just so we know, I never said 10 to 14 touchdowns.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: That would be no, I know you would be yeah, that'd be a great pick if he had anywhere north of if we can get north of seven and like 1100 yards.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's what we're looking for here.
33:20
SPEAKER_01: We need to have a bet.
33:21
SPEAKER_01: We need to make a bet on on something else.
33:24
SPEAKER_00: When I win the best ball league with uh JK Dobbins, uh that'll be that'll be the bet.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: But um, anyways, I got another sleeper here that I want to talk about, and this guy is going drafted in most standard 16 round leagues.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he's going around 80p 150 in the 12th round, and that's Keaton Mitchell.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh, to me, he's the definition of a late round upside pick.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: And when I'm drafting this late in drafts, it is 100% about upside.
33:57
SPEAKER_00: I'm not drafting cancuffs, I'm not drafting based on safety.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm drafting based on guys that you know have a path to provide tremendous upside.
34:07
SPEAKER_00: He doesn't need a massive workload to create fantasy value because his speed and his per touch efficiency are among the best in football.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: So last year he produced 404 scrimmage yards on only 68 touches.
34:22
SPEAKER_00: He had a 5.9 yard per touch, 5.8 yards per carry, and that was pretty reflected in his big playability uh rather than like his empty volume.
34:31
SPEAKER_00: Like his 5.2 true yard per carry ranked third amongst running backs, and he's extremely explosive.
34:38
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he posted a 119.8 EPX rating and a 126.5 rushing EPX.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: He had six breakaway runs on only 59 carries, and he recorded a breakaway run on 10.2 percent of his overall attempts.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: Um the change in environment is really like what makes it most interesting for me.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, he was with Baltimore, and you know, he was stuck behind uh you know, the king, the goat, Derrick Henry, and now he joins a Mike McDaniel-led offense whose outside zone rushing concept is designed to create open space and explosive plays.
35:20
SPEAKER_00: Think Devon A chain all those years uh that they were together in Miami.
35:24
SPEAKER_00: Now, don't like do not get it twisted.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: Like Omarion Hampton remains the guy, but Los Angeles has publicly discussed Mitchell as its speed and change of pace option.
35:35
SPEAKER_00: And of course, naturally, should Hampton miss time, like Mitchell would become one of the most explosive waiver wire or late round backs in fantasy football.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: So at this point in the draft, I'm going directly after the upside.
35:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, when it comes to redrafts and specifically the end of the draft, a lot of the times I won't pick up a kicker, I'll just uh go empty on the kicker until week one, where I absolutely need one.
36:02
SPEAKER_03: And at this point, like you said, you're going for the home runs.
36:05
SPEAKER_03: Like what's what's Ryan Flornoy gonna do for you?
36:09
SPEAKER_03: What's his upside compared to Keaton Mitchell?
36:12
SPEAKER_03: Like, no, like you're gonna take Keaton Mitchell.
36:14
SPEAKER_03: You're talking about 200 picks later, 100 points a yeah, of course, yeah.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, okay.
36:22
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I mean that was a good one.
36:25
SPEAKER_03: You're talking about a guy on the Ravens at one point, he averaged 10 yards a carry and he had like 30 carries, so it wasn't like a skewed number, he had 30 carries and it was 10 yards per carry.
36:35
SPEAKER_03: It was you know, when you're watching an NFL red zone, it was just oh, the Ravens are on.
36:38
SPEAKER_03: Oh, cool.
36:39
SPEAKER_03: Oh, Keaton Mitchell with a 75-yard run for a touchdown.
36:42
SPEAKER_03: It was always happening.
36:44
SPEAKER_03: I really, really like Keaton Mitchell.
36:47
SPEAKER_03: I hate the fact that he's on the Chargers in front of Omarion Hampton, and that is what stifles his value.
36:53
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, any chance he gets to get uh RB2 type uh touches, immediate fantasy.
37:01
SPEAKER_00: I mean, can we just get him eight to ten touches a game?
37:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, whether that's six on the ground and two in the air, like he could do some damage with that, and also I'm kind of worried.
37:11
SPEAKER_00: Nader's like agreeing with a lot of my picks, it's kind of making me feel uneasy.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: He's the contrarian, like he's usually the one always roasting my stuff, and that is not a good thing, trust me.
37:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm always right, so I mean that's usually what ends up happening.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, I'll tell you what's not gonna happen.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna pick a guy who's gonna be in the 21st or 22 rounds or what you think.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: This guy, you could actually get him in if you're doing an 18-round league.
37:37
SPEAKER_01: It it's Isaac Tesla, uh, of the Detroit Lions.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: I I love this kid, I've I've liked him ever since last year.
37:45
SPEAKER_01: The dude scored six touchdowns on 16 receptions.
37:49
SPEAKER_01: I know that's not a lot, it's like you're you're looking at that, but you got to look at the efficiency here, and you got to look at one other factor, too.
37:55
SPEAKER_01: You gotta understand.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: I I understand.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: Look, people got on me bad about the Sam Laporta being ranked 24th, and I stick to my guns.
38:04
SPEAKER_01: I stand by it, I will stand by it, I will stand by it because I'm gonna tell you right now, I think that he is going to be a part-time player at the start of the season.
38:13
SPEAKER_01: Because at the start of the season, it's those guys who are coming back off of injuries, who are coming back off of surgeries, uh back surgeries, herniated disc surgeries.
38:23
SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't think that they're gonna actually put him out there full time.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: I think that they'll put him in there for a spell.
38:29
SPEAKER_01: Maybe he'll get some red zone snaps and you get a touchdown or two, like that'll help him out.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: But I just don't really think that he's gonna be a big focal point at the start of the season.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: Now, towards the middle of the season, they need to get into the playoffs.
38:42
SPEAKER_01: That's when Sam Laporta is gonna be your boy, and that's towards the playoffs or you know, the fantasy playoffs themselves.
38:48
SPEAKER_01: But that's when he'll be your boy.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: But right now, I'm not drafting Sam Laporta, and I think Isaac Tesla could could be one of those pieces that they utilize in this offense.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: This offense, I think, is gonna be one of those high-powered offense, like I talked about with Dallas as well.
39:02
SPEAKER_01: So I'm really high on this offense, and I'm really high on Isaac Tesla, and I think that he can be a contributor to this year.
39:10
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
39:10
SPEAKER_03: He goes, he goes, I'm not picking a deep sleeper, I'm just picking a really deep sleeper.
39:15
SPEAKER_03: A guy that's going in the deep.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: No, no, see, because you know, because he's going in the 18th round.
39:21
SPEAKER_01: He's not, yeah.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: This guy, you can get him in if you're doing 18 round leagues, you can get him in the 18th round.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm not I'm actually going a little higher on it.
39:29
SPEAKER_03: I'm going in the so la last year.
39:31
SPEAKER_03: I don't know, tip, if you remember this, we actually did a show, and I told everybody to start uh Tesla, and you were like, No, don't do it.
39:38
SPEAKER_03: And then he had like two catches for like 30 yards and a touchdown.
39:42
SPEAKER_02: You were like, Oh, you were right, and I was wrong.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Of course I am.
39:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it just happens, always happens.
39:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh wow, anyway.
39:48
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I like Tesla.
39:49
SPEAKER_00: We'll see dirty.
39:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't really I don't really I don't really have much of a rebuttal.
39:52
SPEAKER_00: I like him, you know, he's a deep sleeper, he'll be the number three option in the wide receiver room at least.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: You know, he's a touchdown dependent wide receiver four.
40:05
SPEAKER_00: I guess I don't love Jameson, so I I don't want I how about this?
40:10
SPEAKER_00: I I would like it if he was, and then just let J Mo run around in the slot and just go deep.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: But anyways, Natter, what do you got?
40:21
SPEAKER_03: I mean, my other guy's gonna be Chuba Hubbard.
40:23
SPEAKER_03: You know, I kind of sneak peeked him a little bit, and Chuba Hubbard, just like JK Dobbins, uh his ADP, his risk incredibly low, his uh reward incredibly high.
40:35
SPEAKER_03: Like he had easily thousand-yard rusher, easy eight to ten touchdowns type of player.
40:41
SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, his only competition is a guy who tore the same ACL twice.
40:47
SPEAKER_03: You don't really have competition.
40:48
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he had Rico Dowell last year and he's gone.
40:51
SPEAKER_03: So at this point, it's his job to lose.
40:53
SPEAKER_03: In an offense that's been revamped, added some wide receivers on the outside.
40:57
SPEAKER_03: I personally expect a what is it, ear three breakout from the quarterback.
41:01
SPEAKER_03: And if that all coincides, he should have lighter boxes, he has an easier division to run against, and all that means is he's going to be a much more fantasy productive running back, especially somebody you're drafting at 75 ADP, which is it's not super much of a sleeper, but it's definitely somebody that's realistic value and going to provide you realistic production, not somebody that's in the 18th round.
41:26
SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
41:28
SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
41:30
SPEAKER_01: I I I I I I mean I I like it.
41:35
SPEAKER_01: I I I you gotta go with him just because you gotta understand that Jonathan Brooks could get hurt again, too.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: And you know, why not have the guy who you know, if Jonathan Brooks is supposed to be the guy, why not have the the the handcuffed to him just because or or the number two just because of Jonathan Brooks's uh you know situation he's gone through.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I like the call.
41:57
SPEAKER_01: I think I mean he's a little higher up there, Lord you said 80p 75.
42:02
SPEAKER_01: That's yeah.
42:03
SPEAKER_01: I mean, you're you're you're you're tiptoeing around the line of sleeper now.
42:07
SPEAKER_01: Yes, he's not quite a breakout.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: He's not in a coma.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: He's not in a coma.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: He's just yeah, you know taking a cat note.
42:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, as a team, we also have some honorable mentions, uh, such as Josh Downs, Jaden Higgins, and Dylan Sampson.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: Let's move on over to breakouts breakout players.
42:40
SPEAKER_03: I mean, with breakouts like JSN or George Pickens, Javante Williams, those are all people that had that explosive year that elevated them to that top spot.
42:52
SPEAKER_03: I mean, of course, we're gonna be talking about those players and making sure you get set up to draft them.
42:57
SPEAKER_03: Man, each of us we're gonna have to.
43:00
SPEAKER_03: We're not gonna try to spend too much time on it just so we could uh not elevate the length of the show.
43:04
SPEAKER_03: But hey, Nico, do you want to go first or should I?
43:08
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I think you said this uh last week, but ladies first, man.
43:11
SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
43:12
SPEAKER_03: Oh, shoot, yeah, true.
43:13
SPEAKER_03: Ladies first.
43:14
SPEAKER_03: Uh Michael Wilson.
43:15
SPEAKER_03: I in the show notes I realized that I put it wrong.
43:17
SPEAKER_03: I mean, how Michelle Ladies first.
43:19
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, who's Michael?
43:20
SPEAKER_03: Michelle Wilson.
43:21
SPEAKER_03: I just realized that.
43:21
SPEAKER_03: Or Michael Michelle, yeah.
43:24
SPEAKER_03: Michael Wilson is white.
43:28
SPEAKER_03: Kelly's right.
43:29
SPEAKER_03: I love Kelly.
43:30
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
43:30
SPEAKER_03: That's what hey.
43:31
SPEAKER_03: You know what?
43:31
SPEAKER_03: We're not gender specific around here, right?
43:34
SPEAKER_03: Uh, I mean, he is the wide receiver one on the team.
43:36
SPEAKER_03: I don't care about your Marvin Harrison Jr., I don't care about your Jeremiah Love.
43:40
SPEAKER_03: I don't care about your James Conner.
43:42
SPEAKER_03: I don't even care about their tight end.
43:44
SPEAKER_03: I won't even mention his name.
43:46
SPEAKER_03: He is wide receiver one on that team.
43:49
SPEAKER_03: He runs the crispest routes.
43:51
SPEAKER_03: And you're telling me the guy, last eight parts of the season, last eight games of the season, averaged 96 yards a game.
43:57
SPEAKER_03: He averaged 96 yards a game.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: He hit 96 yards a game one time.
44:02
SPEAKER_03: He averaged that.
44:03
SPEAKER_03: And why?
44:04
SPEAKER_03: Because they had a change of quarterback.
44:06
SPEAKER_03: And guess who?
44:07
SPEAKER_03: Not Kyler Murray.
44:09
SPEAKER_03: Because guess what?
44:09
SPEAKER_03: He's gone on the Vikings.
44:11
SPEAKER_03: So you can just see the wide receiver dip on that team, and you could see the influx of this team.
44:16
SPEAKER_03: Michael Wilson, he's going to be the standout breakout player continuing the trajectory that he left off last year.
44:24
SPEAKER_01: I I love it.
44:26
SPEAKER_01: I I think the only thing you got wrong is his name in the show sheet.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
44:30
SPEAKER_03: That's all that matters.
44:31
SPEAKER_01: I think well, I mean, the Trey McBride, you gotta calm down on that because Trey McBride's like that's the dude.
44:38
SPEAKER_01: And then and then in the passing game, that's the dude.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: And then I mean they're they're they're they're making themselves a nice little offense, man.
44:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, they they they're gonna be able to contend in a couple years.
44:48
SPEAKER_01: That offense is gonna be able to to to produce points.
44:51
SPEAKER_01: Let me say that it's gonna be able to produce points.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: But um, so I like it.
44:55
SPEAKER_01: I think it's a great call.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: There we go.
44:57
SPEAKER_03: Now, should I go for this?
44:59
SPEAKER_01: Do you want to go ahead and do your number two, or do you want to take turns like we did?
45:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just go ahead and mention your uh second Natter, and we'll just move on.
45:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, Luther Burden, uh, it's pretty straightforward with him.
45:09
SPEAKER_03: He's gonna be the cheapest value that he'll ever be in his career, incredibly explosive player on an incredibly explosive offense.
45:15
SPEAKER_03: Not much left to be said with him.
45:17
SPEAKER_03: Phenomenal value.
45:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you you got it right again.
45:21
SPEAKER_00: I think I mean that was about as short and sweet as you can get.
45:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and I mean, you know, I'm gonna try to keep it short and sweet too because I'm gonna go with two players who were on the same team last year and but not this year.
45:36
SPEAKER_01: And my first player is Matthew Golden.
45:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's been highly publicized how well of a camp that he has been having.
45:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, they got rid of some of these wide receivers to help Christian Watson.
45:47
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he did get paid, but they did some of this also because they knew what they well they want to see what they have in Matthew Golden.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: So I think he's gonna get every opportunity to be maybe not maybe not the alpha, but maybe what the Cardinals want to see.
46:02
SPEAKER_01: Maybe they this is what these two guys can produce.
46:05
SPEAKER_01: They can produce a really nice tandem.
46:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, both of them get good down the field, both of them are super strong.
46:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh, Christian Watson has the hype, but I think Matthew Golden, this kid, I think he will deliver this year.
46:18
SPEAKER_01: I think he will break out this year.
46:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking, you know, close to 1,100 yards, maybe eight touchdowns, he can get in the end zone too.
46:25
SPEAKER_01: That would be nice.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: But I'm thinking he does some work.
46:27
SPEAKER_01: And then my next guy is Romeo Dobbs.
46:30
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's funny.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: Romeo Dobbs has never had a thousand yards.
46:33
SPEAKER_01: I was like, I was looking back at it and I was like, man, he he seems like a thousand-yard receiver.
46:37
SPEAKER_01: He could do it.
46:38
SPEAKER_01: I know he's had some injuries, I know he's also had some uh, you know, other concerns too.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: But I really think that in this offense where everybody's gonna be watching AJ Brown, where everybody's gonna be worried about Trevion Henderson coming out of the backfield, you got to worry about Hunter Henry as well.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: Like, I really think Romeo Dobbs can carve out a role in this offense.
46:57
SPEAKER_01: He's already, you know, surplanted becoming the number two uh in this offense.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: I I thought he could be the number one until they got AJ Brown, and uh obviously we know AJ Brown's gonna be the number one, but I think Romeo Dobbs is being forgotten about, and we should not be forgetting about him.
47:18
SPEAKER_00: I can't say I agree, I disagree.
47:22
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I go ahead.
47:27
SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Kelly.
47:28
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I could see it with Matthew Golden, you know, former first round pick, Dobbs is gone, twigs is gone.
47:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, but the Romeo Dobbs one I think is tough because similar to Josh Allen, I just feel like Drake May did such a good job of distributing the wealth last year, you know, between Matt Collins, Stefan Diggs, Hunter Henry, like, and he just, you know, I talked about it in past shows.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: Like, I think AJ Brown's gonna have a great year, but I think his target share is gonna go down.
48:01
SPEAKER_00: I just think his efficiency and his productivity and is going to go up while his opportunity goes goes down.
48:08
SPEAKER_00: And I realize that that's a little contradictive, but at the same time, like it just goes to show like how efficient Drake May was.
48:15
SPEAKER_00: And I just don't know if he has the opportunity, if you will, he's not gonna see the target share to have that.
48:22
SPEAKER_00: Now, Golden, like I said, former first round pick, he he could cook, so I don't know.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: Just wanted to share that.
48:30
SPEAKER_01: But oh, okay.
48:31
SPEAKER_01: Well, go ahead, Matter, because you said you disagree as well.
48:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, Romeo Dobbs, he just screams mediocrity.
48:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't see there's nothing in his game that shows that he could break out.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, that's another reason why he could break out.
48:43
SPEAKER_03: He's been mediocre, yeah.
48:45
SPEAKER_01: Because he's mediocre, he has been mediocre, so he could he has an opportunity to break out on a new team with, I think, a better quarterback.
48:52
SPEAKER_01: I think that he has an opportunity to break out.
48:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, everybody, everybody's gonna be so tuned in to AJ Brown.
49:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, it's it's gonna be sickening.
49:03
SPEAKER_01: And and all AJ uh all Romeo Dobbs is gonna be doing is is going all throughout the formations because he can play the slot too.
49:11
SPEAKER_01: Don't forget, like he can he can move around in that formation if he wants to, and he's got big good size as well, so at 6'2.
49:17
SPEAKER_01: So, like, I I really I think people are sleeping.
49:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, I sleeping on this breakout.
49:23
SPEAKER_01: There we go.
49:24
SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say, well, let me tell you who the real Packers breakout is gonna be, and it's gonna be Christian Watson.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: And similar to J.K.
49:33
SPEAKER_00: Dobbins, I cannot stop drafting this guy.
49:36
SPEAKER_00: He's projected as the 27th wide receiver off the board, and I personally rank him as my wide receiver 18.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh, he has looked fully capable of being the Packers' leading receiver after his ACL injury in 10 games last year.
49:51
SPEAKER_00: He had 35 catches for 611 yards and six touchdowns.
49:55
SPEAKER_00: He averaged 61 receiving yards per game, 17 and a half yards per reception, and his 13.2 fantasy points per game ranked 15th amongst wide receivers.
50:08
SPEAKER_00: And the underlying efficiency was phenomenal.
50:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he was fourth in the NFL in yards per outrun, 10th in first downs per outrun, and he was targeted on 23 of his routes, which was 25th in the uh NFL.
50:21
SPEAKER_00: His explosive rating um was nearly 29 above the league average receiver.
50:27
SPEAKER_00: He had 11 explosive plays in 10 games.
50:31
SPEAKER_00: The only question I had has been answered.
50:34
SPEAKER_00: He earned a 19.9 target share um while running a route on only 72% of Green Bay's pass plays last year.
50:44
SPEAKER_00: But now that Dobbs is gone, now that you know Wicks is gone, I fully expect his target share to go up.
50:52
SPEAKER_00: And he's proven he can be efficient, he's proven that he can you know make the big plays happen.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: So I don't think that he needs you know 130, 140 targets to be a you know top 20, top 15, even or potentially even a top 10 wide receiver.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, his efficiency and touchdown upside to me feels like a very simple explanation as to why I view him as a massive breakout player.
51:18
SPEAKER_00: And then my second guy is honestly a lot of people's favorite, similar to Luther Burden, but it's a Mecca Buka.
51:26
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, long story short, here he you know it a lot of it had to do with Baker and the injuries that he was experiencing last year.
51:34
SPEAKER_00: You know, he was very in touch with his opportunities.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, he had 127 targets in a rookie season.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's insane.
51:43
SPEAKER_00: That was ninth amongst wide receivers, 23.5% target share.
51:48
SPEAKER_00: Like, I fully expect Baker and the Bucks offense this year to have a bounce back season.
51:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we talked about Baker during our quarterback show and how he's playing with a chip on his shoulder this year.
51:59
SPEAKER_00: And now with Mike Evans out of the picture, it's only wheels up for Buka.
52:04
SPEAKER_03: Man, I really like Christian Watson, let me tell you.
52:09
SPEAKER_03: So he is a guy that I think uh I think he's not, of course, as polished as a route runner as Jaden Reed, but he he fills the offensive void, I would say, almost better than him.
52:20
SPEAKER_03: His explosive play potential, his down the field route running, his uh chemistry with uh Jordan Love second to none.
52:28
SPEAKER_03: You don't really see too much chemistry like that with throughout the NFL, not just right between the team.
52:33
SPEAKER_03: Uh injury, of course, is the biggest issue with him.
52:35
SPEAKER_03: He's missed games all throughout his career.
52:38
SPEAKER_03: I think he even had an ACL tear, uh collarbone broken at one point, I believe it was, but win healthy.
52:45
SPEAKER_03: And I feel like that's usually the what if with these breakout players is this guy's stars the the skies a little bit with this guy.
52:52
SPEAKER_03: And Mika Buka.
52:54
SPEAKER_03: When you wrote that, and I saw that in the show notes, I almost laughed a little bit because I'm like, didn't he already kind of like break out at one point?
53:00
SPEAKER_02: I guess it's kind of technically a breakout.
53:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh no, he did not.
53:04
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he broke out for five weeks.
53:06
SPEAKER_00: Um but at the end of the day, I mean, at the end of the day, he finished as a wide receiver 19.
53:11
SPEAKER_00: And towards the end of the year, he wasn't even startable.
53:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, toward I agree with you on there.
53:16
SPEAKER_00: Like, and by the end of the year, I mean like the last six, seven weeks, he was on startable.
53:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that's a solid point.
53:23
SPEAKER_03: Now, of course, I also want to remind everybody that we are live on whatever streaming platform, YouTube, Twitch, X, soon to be on Instagram.
53:32
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53:52
SPEAKER_03: But of course, Tip, do you have anything for it?
53:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so so we're gonna continue with our segment catching up with Kelly every week.
54:01
SPEAKER_01: Our resident producer Kelly is also a Cardinals insider and Cardinals fan, and we just want to catch up with her and talk to her and talk to her about what I think is one of the most entertaining teams uh of the offseason.
54:14
SPEAKER_01: It's just it's been news after news after news.
54:17
SPEAKER_01: So, what's going on out there in Glendale, Kelly?
54:20
SPEAKER_01: Tell us uh what's happening out there in the nest?
54:22
SPEAKER_01: What do fantasy managers need to know?
54:25
SPEAKER_05: Other than being like freaking hot, it's been very interesting around here.
54:32
SPEAKER_05: First of all, game themes have been launched for the week because you know, like when there's a white out or whatever, um, the Cardinals game against the Seahawks, which is our home opener, huge rival.
54:47
SPEAKER_05: They're wearing the rivalry uniforms, which I happen to have a Trey McBride.
54:52
SPEAKER_05: People say they look like a tortilla, and I say you've never actually seen a tortilla, have you?
54:58
SPEAKER_05: It is the haboob, it's a dust storm.
55:01
SPEAKER_05: So that's the first bit of news.
55:03
SPEAKER_03: Now I'm hungry.
55:04
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
55:05
SPEAKER_03: Some tacos would hit.
55:06
SPEAKER_05: You do not want to get into it with me over that.
55:10
SPEAKER_05: Um, let me tell you.
55:12
SPEAKER_05: Next, we have Josh Sweat, is apparently going to be ready for week one, which is super excited for super excited.
55:23
SPEAKER_05: I'm super excited, and it's super exciting uh for that to be happening.
55:29
SPEAKER_05: At least not for week one, but ahead of the season opener, if if not for week one.
55:34
SPEAKER_05: So we're excited about that.
55:36
SPEAKER_05: We also learned today Jeremiah Love will apparently not be playing in the Hall of Fame game, despite the um what do you call that?
55:46
SPEAKER_05: Depth chart being released.
55:48
SPEAKER_05: The depth chart has been released.
55:50
SPEAKER_05: Currently, Jacoby Brissett is the QB one, followed by Gardner Minshew and Carson Beck.
55:56
SPEAKER_05: When we look at that very, very crowded running back room, we have uh a lot going on there.
56:03
SPEAKER_05: Jeremia Love is the RB2, second to Tyler Algier, James Conner, Benson 3.
56:13
SPEAKER_05: Then we've got um Trey Benson, little banged dub, which is not uncommon.
56:22
SPEAKER_05: And I would like to see Bam Knight rather than Trey McBride.
56:26
SPEAKER_05: Not Trey McBride, I love Trey McBride, better than um Trey Benson.
56:32
SPEAKER_05: Bam Knight.
56:33
SPEAKER_05: I think he's the perfect RB4 if we're keeping four, but whoever it is, the Cardinals always dip in to the practice squad.
56:42
SPEAKER_05: How many times did we see uh Michael Carter back out on the field?
56:47
SPEAKER_03: The homie.
56:48
SPEAKER_05: That's what I got for you today.
56:50
SPEAKER_00: Can the Vikes take Trey Benson off your hands?
56:53
SPEAKER_00: Like, would that be?
56:55
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
56:55
SPEAKER_05: If it was up to me, yeah.
56:57
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you can have them.
56:58
SPEAKER_05: I've got plenty of running backs.
57:00
SPEAKER_05: You get a running back, you get a running back, you get a running back.
57:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we should have the practice.
57:06
SPEAKER_00: What uh what's what's our boy um Marv Harrison Jr.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: up to these days?
57:11
SPEAKER_05: Um you know what?
57:12
SPEAKER_05: After such a rough start to camp and the side by sides of him with Michael Wilson looking slow as a F.
57:22
SPEAKER_05: The A is the as.
57:23
SPEAKER_05: What am I saying?
57:25
SPEAKER_05: Um he totally made up for it.
57:29
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if he took my advice and saw a sports therapist, but he came out swinging.
57:36
SPEAKER_05: But here's the caveat: Michael Wilson did not practice that day that he had a great day in camp.
57:43
SPEAKER_05: So I don't know if Mike Willie is getting all up and Marvin Harrison Jr.'s head.
57:49
SPEAKER_05: I don't know, but he did make up for it.
57:52
SPEAKER_03: Wow, wide receiver one gets the day off, and that's how it was.
57:55
SPEAKER_01: Wow, Kelly, you just broke some crazy news.
57:59
SPEAKER_01: That's insane.
58:01
SPEAKER_01: He's getting in his head, he's stuck in his head.
58:05
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if I mentioned this last week or not, but during oppressor, he really said out loud that he's not a positive person, that he has negative thoughts.
58:15
SPEAKER_05: Negative thoughts breed negative everything.
58:20
SPEAKER_05: You have to manifest that shit.
58:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he does kind of strike me as a very, I don't want to say like woe's me.
58:28
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, it's a little Winnie the Pooh is it Winnie the Pooh?
58:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's Winnie the Pooh.
58:32
SPEAKER_04: Like a little like yeah, the one that's Eeyore.
58:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's the guy.
58:35
SPEAKER_00: Like, he kind of he does kind of give me some vibes like that, but um, yeah, no, it was super funny.
58:40
SPEAKER_00: I took it to X2, like literally as soon as you were bringing up uh last week on our show about how um we got some aliens, we got some echoes going.
58:50
SPEAKER_05: It's probably me again.
58:52
SPEAKER_05: You know what?
58:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, but I don't hear it on the I'm just happy, I'm just happy that it's it happened at the end of the show and not at the beginning.
59:00
SPEAKER_00: So no, but I was gonna say I took it to X and I was like, Yeah, basically, uh Marv Harrison uh heard Kelly on the fantasy football space podcast last week, and apparently he kicked it into high gear.
59:13
SPEAKER_00: So now he's out there making plays.
59:15
SPEAKER_05: Now he's out there claiming that wide receiver two spots.
59:19
SPEAKER_03: Literally, literally wide receiver two for Michael for Marvin Harrison Jr.
59:23
SPEAKER_03: Now, of course, you know what?
59:24
SPEAKER_03: To wrap up the show, I want everybody in the comments to let me know who is your favorite sleeper and who is the guy you'll be targeting in all of your redraft leagues going into six plus rounds.
59:34
SPEAKER_03: I mean, those are always going to be the money rounds, in my personal opinion.
59:38
SPEAKER_03: Of course, I want to thank everybody who joined the show, all 80 of you currently right now, live, whether it's X, YouTube, Twitch, and all that good stuff.
59:47
SPEAKER_03: And remember, we are live every Wednesday, 9 p.m.
59:51
SPEAKER_03: Eastern Standard Time.
59:52
SPEAKER_03: So, of course, if you have questions, want to debate, discuss, have any commentary to add to the topic of discussion, make sure you join, of course, in the chat down below.
1:00:01
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1:00:05
SPEAKER_00: I do.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh Nico, go ahead, Nico.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_00: Enjoy some football tomorrow night, y'all.
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SPEAKER_00: Hey, some football.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know it's gonna be a great first quarter because after the third stringers and then the fourth stringers come in, we're all gonna tone out and then talk about how cool football is while not actually watching it.
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SPEAKER_03: But I mean, again, it's the Cardinals, and I don't even know the other team.
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SPEAKER_03: The Panthers, Panthers, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Who the hell?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know who's starting for the Panthers.
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SPEAKER_00: I just saw that uh Carson Beck's gonna be starting for um Kelly's Cardinals.
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SPEAKER_01: I want to I want to see him.
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SPEAKER_01: I I do want to see him.
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SPEAKER_00: I want to see how he's yeah, we talked about him on spaces a little bit.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't too excited, but to I mean, Twitter sphere is he he's doing great in camp, I guess.
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SPEAKER_00: So we'll see.
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unknown: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll see him in action tomorrow night, 7 p.m.
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SPEAKER_00: Central.
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SPEAKER_03: There we go.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just praying that it's on a platform that I own.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_00: You never know if it's gonna be on like Peacock or I don't know, Netflix.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_05: Or I have Netflix, but you know, we get Carson Beck for one half, right?
1:01:16
SPEAKER_05: And the other half's likely gonna be Minju Magic.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm not calling it Mania.
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SPEAKER_05: It's gonna be magical.
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SPEAKER_05: Let's go.
1:01:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, love it.
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SPEAKER_03: The third pick.
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SPEAKER_03: Other than that, hey, good luck, everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: See you next week.